Pinkboard: Party Graffiti Wall 27 and Soundless Disco

Welcome to the world's first "soundless" disco.
The music is there, but it is all in our heads.

Just slip a virtual coin into the virtual slot and you too can be part of the Pinkboard Jukebox Party Soundless Disco. Re-live all the oldies and hear the best of the newies from the comfort of your own home. Groove to the soundless beat under the lights of your screen saver and under the Pinkboard Shining Disco Ball.

Thankyou to the anonymous poster who identified this phenomenon.

Party Graffiti Wall 26
Party Graffiti Wall 28

Here's two more for your collection (I don't remember who performed them but maybe you do).

White Lines (1994)

Sex Drive (1994)

Keep up the good work!
- Sat 1 Nov 2003 09:55:41

"White Lines" is a classic track from 80's decade-defining ubergroup, Duran Duran.

The "Sex Drive" you're probably recalling is the 1994 creation of Pete Burns from Dead and Alive. For this number however, Pete teamed up with Italian dance group "Glam" It was also performed as the headlining show at Sleaze in.....?
- Sat 1 Nov 2003 13:28:38

The Sleaze show also had Devil Gate Drive and a motorbike in it. I think that was about 1999.
Arti - Sat 1 Nov 2003 17:29:17

The song was given the dance remix treatment in 1993 and was a huge club hit in most Oxford Street venues.

"Sex Drive" was recorded in 1994 and the artist was Glam Featuring Pete Burns. Glam were an Italian group that were famous for a 1992 dance hit called "Hells Party". The mix of "Sex Drive" that most would be familar with is a Paul Goodyear re-edit that featured on a Mardi Gras CD in the past. It had alot of very foul language samples cut into it that didnt exist in the original mix - yes it was a fine remix - those were the good old days when Paul Goodyear played good music (my opinion).
Pinkboard Jukebox - Sat 1 Nov 2003 21:04:35

"Ain't Nobody" - Jaki Graham (1993)
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Pinkboard Jukebox - Sun 2 Nov 2003 00:46:24

Aint Nobody , loves me better than youuuuuuuuuuuuuuuuu......

Love it Mr Jukebox. You keep em coming :)
Peter K - Sun 2 Nov 2003 12:33:51

try Chaka Khan.

does this wall only remember bad cover versions ? says it all I guess
deep - Mon 3 Nov 2003 01:29:36

"Back Again" - General Base (1992)
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Pinkboard Jukebox - Mon 3 Nov 2003 07:55:11

You gotta admit , the 90's was THE era for great club dance tracks. All this crap out these days just pales into comparison.
Peter K - Mon 3 Nov 2003 09:42:39

Matt Darey has been one of the pioneers of the trance scene since 1996 when his first release, 'Li Kwan – Point Zero', became one of Paul Oakenfold’s Pinnacle tracks. Since then the Matt Darey style has influenced many of best producers including Michael Wood, Above & Beyond, Darren Tate and Neo & Farina with his tracks consistently played by many of the world's biggest djs.

Since then Matt Darey’s remixes and productions have been responsible for many of the massive tunes that defined the massive trance explosion of 1999-2000. Original productions such as ‘Beautiful’, ‘Liberation’ and ‘Gamemaster’ have seen Matt consistently chart in the UK top 10 whilst at the same time his remix work for artists including Binary Finary (‘1998’), Three Drives (‘Greece 2000’) and Grace (‘Not over yet’) have become worldwide anthems selling over a million copies.

Matt Darey is one of the most powerful producers and influential performers in the world today. Experience Matt Darey as he performs at Halcyon in November.

DJs: Matt Darey [UK] (3 Hour Set). Jumping Jack, Diggs & Morro, Liquid M (DJ Set)
Ticket Information: On the door
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InfoBot - Mon 3 Nov 2003 18:27:32

Anyone remember who that was by?
Take me Up to the top where I wanna be - Mon 3 Nov 2003 18:27:43

We're off to the Sunlite party on sunday, so that should be a bit different.
Evil Twin - Mon 3 Nov 2003 20:35:52

I know Monday mornings are awkward but they are well worth the effort to re-arrange your schedule, if possible.
- Mon 3 Nov 2003 20:36:27

Reminds me of the time I flippantly threatened to shoot someone at the RTA (i was kidding). The same day Martin Bryant went nuts and next thing you know, I've got the cops on my door ready to take me away.

The cops have no sense of humour! (would you?)
- Mon 3 Nov 2003 20:44:32

"...take me up to the top, making me move my feet, making my body rock.." - that was by Dream Frequency.
JK - Mon 3 Nov 2003 21:09:21

Which clubs did police enter and raid on Oxford Street ? The above article doesnt say.
- Mon 3 Nov 2003 23:36:44

"Feel It" - Hi Lux (1995)
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Pinkboard Jukebox - Tue 4 Nov 2003 00:14:27

Answer - "Alrabaiye (Take me up)" - Amadin (1992)
It was a Dr Alban ('Sing Hallelujah' fame) production

JK - Leave the early 90's stuff to me darls, it isnt your era :P</b>
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Pinkboard Jukebox - Tue 4 Nov 2003 08:49:28

From what i saw when i ventured out about 1.00pm very sobber and thinking this is an absoulty disgusting place to live. Sorry but i rushed home nearly wanting to be sick from all the drunk people hanging out around taylor square. The police looked focused on clubs like NV, Kinselas, The courthouse... They also went up and down the stonewall line and frisked a few people. Mainly from what i saw when i walk from my front dooe down to duffys was about 18-20 police with 4 dogs and they looked pretty serious. I think the message is that now the council has spent the money to fix up Taylor square we are now going to make sure that we are also going to fix the people. Thats my opinion of it anyway. What i really feel is that this new up grade has made the place more revolting then before all we have now is more room and a few seats for more people to be just as revolting in one place. Seriously i am scared to walk through Taylor square on Sundays to get that papers.

Does anyone else feel the same?
Luke - Tue 4 Nov 2003 09:40:52

I'm with you Luke..... Taylor Sq is my neighbourhood too and I find it revolting. The new development has already been vandalised.

Friday nights, saturday mornings, Saturday nights and sunday mornings are very scary in the area....people seem to front up to you for no reason other than to intimidate.
Josh - Tue 4 Nov 2003 12:06:20

long live cos, guy shannon and paulini
and millsy can long live with me and sing bad
i dont care
he would look great in a sling

great new track
"my time" crystal waters
- Tue 4 Nov 2003 13:49:04

gotta love that saying

blame a sparkling gem and a marketing machine for bringing this lowlife tedious repetetive music back to the future
- Tue 4 Nov 2003 17:32:59

Craig/Josh - I dont live anywhere near Oxford St but met a friend for coffee
one Sunday morning about 10am and it was filth. Some woman slagging off another woman very loudly in front of Kinselas......then more argueing as they
strolled 6 abreast down Oxford St ( you moved out of they way cause they wouldn't ) . Drunks/deros everywhere. After going out on Oxford St and even
the early days at the Cross, I was not comfortable that morning. Even better/worse was being in the coffee shop watching the out of its trying to
eat...................hilarious.....they'd cut the food up and up and up till
it was about 1/2inch square and then tried chewing and then tried swallowing.
Its a shame.
rancid trance (not a) twink - Tue 4 Nov 2003 17:52:51

and besides his partys are constantly sold out and they go off!!!
milky bar kid - Tue 4 Nov 2003 18:43:43

Sorry. Can't. Against the law to have a track listing on a promotional CD such as that.
JK - Tue 4 Nov 2003 19:57:36

"Free" - Ultra Nate (1997)
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Pinkboard Jukebox - Wed 5 Nov 2003 00:19:18

Reminds me of those fantastic FREE FM Dance parties in 1998 & 99 at the Metro. One Free party in particular where that Ultra Nate song was the last song of the night where the DJ (cant remember who) started the song with the accapella. The crowd went wild !! Great parties those Free FM events were. *Sigh*

Good Memories. Great Times. Pity about the scene now which is a farce !! *Sigh*

Thanks Again Pinkboard JB. I love it.
Peter K - Wed 5 Nov 2003 07:40:17

Dear anonymous poster

I know the DJ you are referring to and the situation you describe because it came direct to my attention. It would not be fair for me to name the DJ and cause them embarrassment for the way they treated PRIDE who at that time had made them a genuine offer.

I strongly suggest to you that you get your facts straight (no pun intended) before spreading rumours like this and certainly have not done this DJ any favours by your posting.

We have worked extremely hard this year, in response to the feedback we have received, to ensure that the DJ selection process was open and fair. I am pleased to report that we received a large number of quality submissions and I would to thank all the DJ's who submitted.

We will be announcing the NYE DJ line up very soon together with all the party details. I sincerely hope that we will not see a repeat of some of the behaviour that has taken place in previous years. The PRIDE NYE party is a fundraiser with all proceeds going direct to the community.

I will try to respond to as many requests for information as possible. Please understand that I am a volunteer and it's hard for me to get to this site as often as I would like. You can also contact me direct on 0407 878 933 if you would like to discuss any aspect of the party.

Regards

Lou-Anne Lind
Co-President
Sydney PRIDE Centre
- Wed 5 Nov 2003 08:39:28

I reckon a mass gay sea-change would be the way to go......somewhere gorgeous, of course.....
Josh - Wed 5 Nov 2003 09:35:59

You mean....Newtown, Josh?
- Wed 5 Nov 2003 13:01:30

Josh, I'm thinking Budgewoi
- Wed 5 Nov 2003 18:27:57

Some just don't seem to realise there are different tastes in this world and that whatever they like just must be the only thing worth talking about.

Either a real twink or and old acid queen.
Bring on Rachel Auburn/Lady Dana/ even Siouxe Spears !!!!!! - Wed 5 Nov 2003 19:30:37

I too have fond memories of the Free FM parties and I also remember that First free party where Ultra Nate was the closing song. Cant remember if the DJ that did that was Alex Taylor or Stephen Blomfield. It was certainly one of those two as they both played at that event. Paul goodyear was the other DJ but I definitely remember that he was the opening DJ and then Alex and Stephen - in what order I dont remember - followed. Does anybody know ??

Pinkboard Jukebox , You do indeed conjur great memories. You are one of the shining lights of what has been a fairly dour and drab pinkboard in recent times.
Aiden - Wed 5 Nov 2003 22:06:22

"One Night In Heaven" - M People (1993)
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Pinkboard Jukebox - Thu 6 Nov 2003 00:09:47

I'm sorry to inform you that people in the music industry consider that trance currently falls into the same category as "cheese".
Choosy Cheese Choosers always say Cheese Please - Thu 6 Nov 2003 08:17:34

"Bigness of sound is a principle at the heart of most music, whether it's the rich multiple guitar parts of The Darkness, the tectonic bass of a reggae soundsystem, the vastness of an orchestra. It's certainly the principle selling point of the Euro-trance-pop sound that rears its head with baffling frequency as the chart reaches the final 20 on a Sunday afternoon.

Sexually ambivalent production team Ian Van Dahl are the crowned Prince/Princesses of the repackaged trance genre. You know the drill by now: gentle synth undulations give way to pristine piston beat and introductory vocal warblings, fade to beatless swirl as a lone kick introduces the torrential downpour of synthetic exhortations to ecstasy. Vocal returns. One more kick. Cymbals. Roll. Lurid sexless synth downpour intensifies. And we're back to the military stomp of the kick drum to fade.

The whole point, you assume, is to grab the attention of the hearing-impaired with frequencies so unavoidable, sounds so BIG as to alert them to the very existence of this thing, music."
lovin' it - Thu 6 Nov 2003 09:36:41

now: "Wed 5 Nov 2003 15:50:26" just because that sound is currently popular doesnt mean it has any cred. it's embarrasssing that so many gay clubs are ruled by that awful sound and probably the single most important reason why so people I know dont go out anymore.

what happened to the music ?
Mr Panties - Thu 6 Nov 2003 11:11:35

we may bitch and moan needlessly but keep up the good work. congrats on erko town hall and good on you for making the decision to open up dj submissions.

looking forward to another Pride nye. hopefully i'll see you on the dancefloor! rumour has it that you have to stand down at the next agm because you have served your maximum of 4 years. is this right?
boogie fever - Thu 6 Nov 2003 12:00:55

Is that what it is still called after the re-vamp? or do we now call it New- Gilligans Island?
Luke - Thu 6 Nov 2003 12:24:54

I'd like to point out that the majority of the drunks on and around Oxford Street are quite harmless and can be pleasant, but it's the weekends that make the area suffer when the white-trash from the 'burbs roll in to the city.

I'm sorry to inform you that people in the music industry consider that trance currently falls into the same category as "cheese".
Choosy Cheese Choosers always say Cheese Please - Thu 6 Nov 2003 08:17:34

Percisely the reason I've stayed away from the last few Ruby parties and Toybox.
Josh - Thu 6 Nov 2003 14:04:57

Australian Federal Police have seized $60 million worth of the drug ecstasy found hidden inside agricultural machinery imported from Europe.

The 195 kilograms of ecstasy uncovered is Australia's second biggest ecstasy haul by federal police.

The drugs were found packed inside agricultural equipment in a shipping container, an AFP spokesman said.

Federal Customs Minister Chris Ellison said the seizure had smashed a Belgium-based syndicate allegedly linked to global drug trafficking.

"A 195-kilogram shipment of ecstasy, some 860,000 tablets with an estimated street value of $60 million, has been stopped from reaching our community thanks to the close cooperation between the Australian Federal Police, Customs and the Belgian Federal Police," Senator Ellison said in a statement.
- Thu 6 Nov 2003 14:45:41

Something worth noting; the top 3 Dj's in the world http://www.djmag.com/top100chart.asp are predominantly Trance DJ's. Go to the link to find out who the other top 50 DJ’s are and their styles etc. It’s also interesting to compare the top 50 in Australia http://www.inthemix.com.au/50/2003/index.php looking at the two you can probably asses what side of the fence you are on (no pun intended). Are you more European in your musical tastes or Australian? I would defiantly be leaning towards the Euro side. I also feel that Australian culture in general is becoming more and more influenced by the European Market and expect Trance and Progressive Styles with take over from House and Tribal Pop…. maybe? Time will tell.
Ryan Murphy - Thu 6 Nov 2003 16:23:15

10pm-1230am MANDY ROLLINS

1am-6am LANNY K & MISS YETTI

So what better way to do the midnight thing than with the best darn G&L DJ for 2003? Especially when she'll be followed by two of Sydney's specialists in creating dirty dancefloors.

What's on before 10pm is yet to be finalised. Pinkboarders will be the first to know.

This will be a presale-only, closed-door event. Tix are on sale from 21st of November at Hellfire or from 22nd November at Reefer Records, Crown St Darlingithurts.

Whatever you're doing this NYE, play safe and party hard ... or is that play hard and party safe?
Master Tom - Thu 6 Nov 2003 18:26:51

correction, i think Mark Dynamix was also one of the top 5, and he is probably the most talented club dj in AUS. and plays EVERYTHING... he was even playing 80s funk at YU last week

let's stick together anyway, because given the success of RNB/hiphop in the AUS youth and their constant USA brainwashing we stand a greater risk of dancing to that sound in clubs soon.... oooh scary huh?
three dollars fifty worth - Thu 6 Nov 2003 20:41:36

In any case, it's each to their own. If you really don't like trance, no amount of argument is going to change your tastes, is it? :p
Matt - Thu 6 Nov 2003 21:00:25

I'd personally like to invite you along to the next Back 2 Love, which will be on Saturday 22nd November, @ the Lava Bar, Top Floor @ The Burdekin Hotel. I've got Chip, Beatrix, and Calvin Wong lined up to rock the house.

You are doing on here what I'm trying to do with the Back 2 Love parties - give people that music they have all grown up with, cherished, and danced their funky ass off to. Keep it going!!!!

If anyone wants any more info, contact me on back2love@optusnet.com.au

See you on the dancefloor
Scottie - Back 2 Love promoter - Thu 6 Nov 2003 23:45:06

"Hot Shot" - Barbara Tucker (1996)
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Pinkboard Jukebox - Fri 7 Nov 2003 00:11:28

Gee Mr Panties, you sound like a very switched on businessman.
- Fri 7 Nov 2003 12:19:02

Taylor Square needs to be cleaned up the amount of drunks, deros & drugos that hang out there has increased which has made me weary not to walk around there alone again.
- Fri 7 Nov 2003 13:42:02

I must publicly state that no single style of music is better or worse than any other. Popularity of each style fluctuates constantly. Dominance of a particular style is also more often than not geographically isolated.

My personal observation has led me to note that Trance is predominantly more popular in European clubs and simile I am seeing a steady growth of the style in the Sydney Scene. This is probably attributed to the exposure of Parties such as Toybox and Ruby. Not withstanding the introduction of trance onto the scene by Frisky.

From a musical point of view it is also exciting to see the many genres that are developing under the global style of Trance. Euro Trance, Psy Trance, E Trance, Uplifting Trance, Acid Trance, Hard Trance, Progressive Trance, Goa & Psychedelic Trance and Trancecore/Freeform Trance just to name a few. Sydney is also developing it’s own style of “Trance” and it’s exciting to be apart of that.

I do know that The Talents of Jake Kilby shall continue to wield the dark art of Tribal Pop to packed dance floors full of adoring fans. Its worth a note that I too played Tribal Pop for a great many years….and continue to do so from time to time.

Rumour has it that Jake Kilby is up for a challenge of the styles?!
Ryan Murphy - Fri 7 Nov 2003 14:53:41

Imagine earth restored to her real beauty,
steady trees seems to brush the deep blue sky,
the clouds billow to form the majestic peaks.
The songs of birds fill the air,
create a symphony on symphony.
The godess is calling for an honouring of what she
allows to be created through the form of strength and blood.
Those who own our planet, are learning about love.
- Fri 7 Nov 2003 17:15:25

Well....I'm not really all that convinced....
- Fri 7 Nov 2003 18:46:41

Anyone know anything about group advertising in last weeks SSO for DJ submissions to a NYE party at Luna Park ? Whats the Crystal Palace like for
a venue ? hopefully it will have bigger dance floors than City Live but the
ad did read like its gonna be exxy.

Anyone going/considering going to Mobile Home at Wharf 3 ?
Whats this venue like ? can you give me an idea of the size of the dance floors ?
Appreciate your advice - Fri 7 Nov 2003 18:53:34

oh pullease... the godess is *so* old... Panther, can we have a spirituality board for those who have taken one too many e's and are feeling all "majickal" and must do poetry?
- Fri 7 Nov 2003 20:37:33

"Hey Music Lover" - S Express (1989)
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Pinkboard Jukebox - Sat 8 Nov 2003 00:08:16

You bet they would.

Yes you can aim at niche markets but do they really rake in the big $'s ?

Could this be one of the reasons our pubs are disappearing ? I work with a lot
of twinks and none went to Beachamp/Oxford/Flinders ? They occassionaly go
to the Imperial but prefer Columbian/Stonewall type venues.
I used to go to all the pubs ( there were no Columbian/Stonewalls ) but maybe
our age group are quietening/settling down , dont go out as much therefore
declining numbers at the old pubs ?
Just thinking - Sat 8 Nov 2003 08:08:47

"Hunt on for Aussie Queer Eyes

Channel Ten is set to begin the hunt for Australia's own style gurus to front a new home-grown version of the smash hit US show Queer Eye For The Straight Guy.

Two special editions of the reality program, which has romped to success both in America and Australia, will be screened later this month, throwing down the diamante gauntlet to any potential Aussie Carsons, Kyans or Thoms.

The show, which is currently being screened on Channel Ten, revolves around five gay style experts giving lifestyle makeovers to straight men.

The two special editions will be shown back-to-back on November 18 and feature a "Q Test" to examine members of the pink fraternity's style sense.

Following the US format, program-makers are searching for fashion, grooming, interior design, food and wine and culture experts to make up Australia's own Fab Five.

Potential fashionistas will have to complete a rigorous audition process and be prepared to have their style knowledge ruthlessly probed.

The shows will be screened on Ten on November 18.
©AAP 2003" from the ninemsn.com.au site.
- Sat 8 Nov 2003 08:41:40

As for an Aussie Queer Eye, I say go for it! I could pick half a dozen "experts" off the top of my head, including the fashion police we sit next to in the stands at Big Gay Dance Parties. Then we could go head to head against the Americans and see who can do the best make over. Perhaps auction off the resulting Perfect Man and they get to keep him for a week? Or rent him out for a year?
Evil Twin - Sat 8 Nov 2003 11:58:21

"I Need Somebody" - Loveland (1995)
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Pinkboard Jukebox - Sun 9 Nov 2003 00:49:18

Also for Auusie Queer Eye - maybe we could cast votes for the straight guys
who need a makeover and then sit back and watch them squirm - maybe
Sam Newman ? Anthony Mundine ? for the sqirm factor , then some of those
beautiful footballers for the perve factor..........
One day I'll buy you that beer - Sun 9 Nov 2003 08:53:58

Just heard that Back 2 Love is on again soon. I had a fantastic time there. Loved the space, the music was absolutely fantastic, the crowd very friendly...And I Danced! Danced! Danced!. The above lyrics are from a Brand New Heavies track which I remember grooving to with a big smile across my face. It sums it all up for me. I'm going back for some good luvin!
Big Booty Betty - Sun 9 Nov 2003 12:41:36

oh yeah pinkboard jukebox...can i request undressed by pansy division. ta.
Ms Golightly - Sun 9 Nov 2003 13:00:32

So the Shift "went off" eh? Perhaps it's the warmer weather?
Evil Twin - Sun 9 Nov 2003 17:13:36

come down if you can
MK - Sun 9 Nov 2003 19:19:07

"Dreamer" - Living Joy (1995)
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Pinkboard Jukebox - Mon 10 Nov 2003 00:06:32

I left the Shift at 5.30 and popped into ARQ - cost $20 to get in at that time of the morning !! Once inside, a drunk straight spilt a schooner of beer over my pants. Luckily, I live around the corner, so I went home to change. Got back to ARQ at just after 6 and the goons on the door told me I couldn't come back in as they were closed. Go figure.....I don't think I'll bother going there again. I have been giving them a second chance time and again and I am always disappointed - I won't subject myself to it any longer. I'd rather give my $20 to charity once a week.
Josh - Mon 10 Nov 2003 15:44:03

Kinda fun to know who has looked at your profile.

But not sure if I want every person whose profile I have looked at to know that.

Anyhow I have deactivated the feature.
Paranoid gaydar profileee - Mon 10 Nov 2003 15:57:13

No actually i prefer "Yo'momma's brake dance underground retro eurofunk
psy-tribal acid clashmetal groove disco anthems" but more on the fusion side if you know what i mean.

One of myfav tracks is the Engrish by Take Tilby - Djing over da seas remix
Ryan Murphy - Mon 10 Nov 2003 18:04:31

"The Love I Lost" - Sybil (1993)
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Pinkboard Jukebox - Tue 11 Nov 2003 00:08:18

its a shame you never asked me if i'd stay"

SHAME
Q BURNS ABSTRACT MESSAGE
broken mind - Tue 11 Nov 2003 03:29:29

According to friends that where there this weekend, on Saturday night there were several drops before 6am, one involved an ambulance being called to an OD in the downstairs toilets. On Sunday night, again there were several drops - no ambulances called, but friends taking the OD'er to St V's - all before 6am.

I can see their point - but why should I lose out because of idiot g-users.
Josh - Tue 11 Nov 2003 09:11:03

DJ Line up....

Small Room
10-12.30 Greg Boladian
12.30-2.30 Bruce Dixon
2.30-4.30 Jimmy Dee
4.30-7am Sean Manley

Big Room
10-12.30 Ronnie James
12.30-2.30 Alex Taylor
2.30-4.30 Jake Kilby
4.30-7am Anthony Whitlock
25 days to go !!! - Tue 11 Nov 2003 09:21:43

We poofs can sniff a straight a mile away. I'd lay odds on that Josh was spot on in his assessment.
Today is Rememberance Day. - Tue 11 Nov 2003 09:27:26

Get a life.
Josh - Tue 11 Nov 2003 10:46:37
This message is unnecessarily abusive.

You wanna bet....!
- Tue 11 Nov 2003 10:57:59

We are looking for another party with big dance floors. City has never done it
for us. Didn't realise the main floor is nearly as big as the RHI - perfect.

Can I just ask your opinion on the crowd ? ( as some posters have said yobbo
british backpackers etc but cant see them paying $135 ) and can you get your
car close to that area ? or just taxi's.
Really appreciate your feedback. 99% sure we'll go. My crowd is also half
gay half straight and we to a party for the dancing/lights etc. If the crowd is no diff from what goes to NMG or Sleaze etc then definately there.
Thanks - Tue 11 Nov 2003 19:48:54

btw Krafty kuts and A skills are on this boxing day, presented by the makers of field day, yu and park life etc... that will be rockin too
- Tue 11 Nov 2003 21:41:30

"Caught In The Middle" - Juliet Roberts (1994)
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Pinkboard Jukebox - Wed 12 Nov 2003 00:13:13

From your statement I could say that people called "Josh" are rude, narrow minded and discriminatory. If you don't want people to discriminate against you don't make statements that are ridiculous like "straight people spill drinks". It doesn’t help anyone to live in harmony.

Take not of Panther's comment on your post.
Kit Cat - Wed 12 Nov 2003 10:09:41

You say "it doesn't help anyone to live in harmony" - then I am right in being very upset at somebody, straight or gay, spilling a drink over me !

I think you are trying to say "it doesn't HURT anyone to live in harmony". Judging by your original reponse to my post, you seem entirely happy to cause somebody dischord by 'going for the throat' at the first opportunity.
Josh - Wed 12 Nov 2003 14:10:29

laughable
- Wed 12 Nov 2003 14:47:49

Really? Were you in the same venue as myself and friends? Matt Darey started at 3.30am and by 4.30am many people had left because of 2 main things - the woeful sound and the lack of continuity of the music. It appears that a star like Matt Darey had problems with the sound and this took a lot of time to settle down. By 4.45am Matt was on track and it rocked but let's not decorate something that wasn't good. Arq needs to get their technical act together, especially when paying big bucks for OS acts.
Tiny Tim - Wed 12 Nov 2003 15:08:05

It will have a very high cringe factor.

Any confirmation that Pride NYE will only be City Live and a tent ? hopefully
not but it sounds that way.
Cringing - Wed 12 Nov 2003 20:10:32

and since when did nathan from BB get all "don't hide your pride"? I seem to recall he spent most of his time in the house being quite ambiguous on the question of his sexuality. Whilst overlooking the fact that his contribution to "fashion" consisted of looking like a soux chef on a fishing trawler, i hope the local franchise of queer eye at the very least chooses people who are unambiguously open about being gay.
Ms Golightly - Wed 12 Nov 2003 21:36:46

"Stand Up For Your Love Rights" - Yazz (1989)
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Pinkboard Jukebox - Thu 13 Nov 2003 00:08:56

Here's a dollar.......
Josh - Thu 13 Nov 2003 09:06:19

* Manacle's Bent fruit platter is a nice touch (Paradise Garage parties revisited)

* Whilst someone OD'ed near me (at another venue), I was thinking - Thankfully they dropped here at the club where people can assist, as opposed to dropping at home, alone/on the way home - where nobody may see.

As we all know, the effects of G are C U M U L A T I V E. They tend to drop later in the night. It is NOT the club's fault

* Putting the DJ on the stage at Arq was a good idea, but give me Paul Goodyear anytime. The LIGHT show was excellent - Brad gets better all the time!!!
Dr Maddox - Thu 13 Nov 2003 09:57:18

Brad wasn't at Arq on Saturday and never is. It was in fact Campbell. Who i think always does a great job.
In the know - Thu 13 Nov 2003 10:45:06

Josh - You have SUPERB taste. However Kiani is spelt K.i.a.n.i :)

That lady is a diva.
Luke - Thu 13 Nov 2003 10:53:41

Have you seen our soundless-disco doorman? His name is Panther and he's thrown me out a few times! They come in all forms, don't forget.

But I do sympathise with you, Josh. I think you should get your $20 back - I certainly would approach management on that matter.
- Thu 13 Nov 2003 14:05:03

here are the DJ's

Inside City Live: Ryan Murphy, Mandy Rollins, Roger Z
Outside area (bus bay): Justin Scott, David 'Hilda - request taking' Hiscock, Kate Monroe

congrats to the DJ's who were selected. i'm sure you will do an awesome job.
john - Thu 13 Nov 2003 14:25:45

Beg your pardon Luke......she's fabulous.....she has an excellent night-club in Glasgow too ! :o)
Josh - Thu 13 Nov 2003 17:43:59

turn down the bass, mid, and treb EQs and turn up the master. it is really not a great sound... could just be the djs when i am there but if it is to continue calling itself a superclub, it should shape up.

as for the shift, that system pumps. every time i fo there i think i am at a mini dance party, but with a good system unless like major dance parties these days which tend to be too quiet or unclear in terms of hearing the complexities of the music

congrats to the shift for finally getting it together and making the music on the street sound good - they are the only ones who do in my opinion
- Thu 13 Nov 2003 18:43:15

Twas Campbell on lighting last Sat night at Arq, not Brad.

Both great lighting operators who deserve as much credit as the dj's!
- Thu 13 Nov 2003 20:58:00

"Son Of A Gun" - JX (1994)
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Pinkboard Jukebox - Fri 14 Nov 2003 00:19:14

So true! Thanks for the correction, appologies if anyone was put out by that error. Sometime people forget who they are because they don't make any noise. I would like to see the Lighting Technicians/ARTISTS names up there with the DJ's.

Yes - a big round of applause for those quiet achievers. They hold me there even when the music is not to my liking.

The Shift does have a great sound system, it's their light show that needs a touch up if anything.
(the sound of many hands clapping) - Fri 14 Nov 2003 07:42:18

I agree that the door staff are there to do a job - but, it would be nice, for a change, to be spoken to with a little respect when asking them a question - instead of them looking away from you at the same time as looking down their nose at you when they answer.
- Fri 14 Nov 2003 08:27:40

I always try to make them feel like they are appreciated because that is honestly how I feel.
- Fri 14 Nov 2003 08:53:44

Hi Brad, I was watching a TV Programme last night called "Stargate SG1" and at the end of the programme in the credits it shows your name as the executive producer !

My my my , What a multi talented young lad you are :o)
Luke - Fri 14 Nov 2003 09:06:54

It's instinctive - that's why he is so popular. Even if you don't like what he plays, you always know that it will probably never sound better (no matter where it is).

I have very limited vision (legally blind without my severe prescription) and my hearing has had to compensate for this, so I believe I am well qualified to make the above statements.
sound advice - Fri 14 Nov 2003 12:10:51

I can't get that song out of my head. Thank you Juke.
- Fri 14 Nov 2003 12:46:52

But only before 6am.......
Josh - Fri 14 Nov 2003 16:04:40

In my opinion, it IS a superclub because I usually have a super-time at that club
superduperclub - Fri 14 Nov 2003 16:15:37

Touche.
- Fri 14 Nov 2003 16:34:20

I knew you'd come knocking one day, unannounced like a thief in the night.
- Fri 14 Nov 2003 17:08:42

Please explain your kryptic message.
- Fri 14 Nov 2003 17:39:05

If so what was your opinion on the dance floor of City Live ? too small ?
I seem to remember someone posting saying the dance floor was packed but nobody was moving cause they couldn't ?
The Pride NYE DJ's interest me but if I cant dance ( and I dont want to dance
in the balconies ). My personal preference is for room.
Otherwise I think we will take the recommendation from somoene a few posts ago
and try Mobile Home.
Appreciate your opinion - Fri 14 Nov 2003 19:00:24

Hi there

Yes I was at Inquisition. Like Pride, they also secured the outdoor space but it and that's why everybody was packed in like sardines. Also they let more people in that Pride will. Pride will only sell 1,900 tix which is well under capacity.

The bus bay area is fairly large and I understand Pride has secured the whole space. I've been to Mobile Home. My opinion: over priced, crowded, lots of straight back packers and all proceeds go to the private sector.

You asked for my opinion, so here it is. Whatever you do, have a good one!
My opinion - Fri 14 Nov 2003 19:13:40

no i don't think. try tank, GAS or home well ahead of arq as it is tiny, middle of the road, and a total bust... cannot understand wht people flock there beyond the promise of twinks with their tops off (and since these twinks are now straight, really can't think of a reason).

pride might be a little as described, i think there is something at space which will be REALLY good if it is what i was told it would be (i will leave it to the promoters to fill you in)
- Fri 14 Nov 2003 20:25:57

"Break The Chain" - Motiv 8 (1995)
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Pinkboard Jukebox - Sat 15 Nov 2003 00:17:18

Also....... I'm used to hearing people who've been overseas for five minutes slag off Sydney because it apparently isn't New York or London (surprise!) but now we are informed it is also not Ibiza. Again...... surprise! I've been to all three, lived overseas for 10 years and have been to every major city in the world...... which means nothing, except to note that having some experience of the world does not make it necessary to flaunt one's alleged sophistication in running down this city. It is really just gauche in the extreme.
- Sat 15 Nov 2003 00:52:05

Everyone knows that it's for the food, silly!
get real! - Sat 15 Nov 2003 09:36:21

Mobile aint cheap - $135 but it starts at 7pm and allows you to watch
NYE fireworks at Darling Harbour etc plus huge hall where nbr 1 DJ in the world
DJ Tiesto will play followed later on with Alex Taylor. Supposedly 3 dance
areas but the other 2 a smallish but wont be as small as City Live.
We are re-thinking for the first time in like 10 years ie we did all Pride NYE
parties. Thought of Arq but it seems to be getting a lot of negative publicity about yobbos and besides you can do Arq/Shift anytime.
If QN was on NYE then would be there in an instant but just gotta be out
on NYE not New Years Day.
Doesn't seem to be a happy medium to choose - Sat 15 Nov 2003 10:27:56

the first DJ that I felt compelled to compliment was Robert Racic. Where did he go, though?
- Sat 15 Nov 2003 12:16:02

Tonight the Taxi Club launchs a new intimate dance space called Lola's Lounge. Opening from Midnight till around 3ish, featuring myself as DJ. After 3am, DJ Justin Scott plays upstairs in the main nightclub level.

Last saturday night Harbour City Bears launched Bear Essentials 8 to be held the week before Mardi Gras 2004. Wednesday March 3 will be the Underbear party, this time being held upstairs at the Midnight Shift featuring 3 DJ's plus special unannounced guest. The DJ lineup is myself (DJ Shanobear), Seymour Butts and Marc Alsop. This wil be my first time playing at one of the big venues and also the first time I've done a gig with other DJ's on the same bill (I've previously only done my weekly solo gig at the Taxi Club on Fridays). When this gig rolls around I will have been DJ'ing for just over 12 months so I'll still be fairly new to it all and pretty excited to be doing this show.

Self promotion? Yes indeed, but I've also decided to post these details on here because I am excited at doing these shows and wanted to share my excitement with others.
A very happy DJ Shanobear - Sat 15 Nov 2003 13:06:05

Correct me if I'm wrong but I dont think he is with us any longer.
Was good looking as well - Sat 15 Nov 2003 14:35:42

Pride doesn't do any direct service delivery to the community, as such. It basically provides space that community groups can use. Pride's danceparty fundraisers are basically to pay the rent/overheads.
- Sat 15 Nov 2003 16:25:15

Robert Racic passed away with HIV many years ago. I think it was 1997.
- Sat 15 Nov 2003 20:08:25

In view of the recent success at the Shift on Saturday Nights i think there's a valid argument for the Shift to run a day club downstairs from 6am.

Remember the good old days downstairs at the Shift on a Sunday morning around 1996 - 1998 ?? Bring them back I say !!!
Stuff ARQ - Lets do Shift Recoveries !!! - Sat 15 Nov 2003 22:11:59

"Groove Is In The Heart" - Deee Lite (1990)
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Pinkboard Jukebox - Sun 16 Nov 2003 00:07:45

“2 Unlimited – Get ready for this” and “S-express – Theme from S-express” as well as “Superfly guy” – from many a Saturday night spent at Baseline at the back of the Palace in St Kilda in the early 90’s when I was young and green … haha. Amazing these seemed so cutting edge then :)

“Donna Summer – I feel love (remix)” – memories from Sleaze in ’95 ? (correct me if I’m wrong) Spent weeks hunting for it after the event !

“Tatjana – Santa Maria” – so cheesy, but can’t forget dancing to this on the stage at the Horden, again in ’95 (I think - LOL)

“Faithless – Insomnia” – Still send shivers up my spine, and still a pretty awesome song. Perhaps my all time favourite memory from a MG party J

Any others ?
koreanguy - Sun 16 Nov 2003 00:56:33

And to " Sun 16 Nov 2003 08:57:37 " get your facts right. It does not finish
at 1am - why do people feel the need to stir/lie ?
Zorro I have the 3D mag at work and will get times etc.

We are also interested to know if a reasonable amount of gay guys/gals go to
Mobile Home. We are bunch of friends so there will be no snogging :)
Get it right - Sun 16 Nov 2003 09:13:36

MOBILEHOME NYE 2003 - 31 December 2003, 7pm to 6am - $138.20 each

it aint cheap and yes it finishes at 6am but I'm usually gone by then. You
can also watch fireworks if thats your thing.
You stand corrected - Sun 16 Nov 2003 08:57:37 - Sun 16 Nov 2003 09:23:01

Off to the Imperial tonight for Gurlesque. YAY! More sexy grrls than you can poke a stick at (note to self: remember to bring stick). After chatting with Sex Intents last week, I am definitely getting there early for my front row seat.
Evil Twin - Sun 16 Nov 2003 11:15:34

Would love to hear White Lines remixed for 2003-4!!! LOVE that track!
:o) - Sun 16 Nov 2003 13:47:23

I also noted a lot more straight people there compared to usual Saturday night crowd. That may be because Matt Darey was announcing where he was playing when he was being interviewed on a radio program earlier in the night. :p

As for OD's, last Saturday night was the first time in a couple of years of clubbing that I've seen a few very obvious OD's. All of the ones I saw occurred *before* 7am. Was a bit shocked to find half of the vortex roped off when someone OD'ed in the toilets. Also, found myself helping a couple of guys who were desperately trying to stop their friend from slipping into a coma by pouring cold water all over him. Hmmmmm. Definitely not the highlight to my night. All I can say is that, as far as I'm aware, all of the people I know who are regular clubbers can have a great time without resorting to using G. Wish people would just get the message, so we can stop having our nights ruined....
Matt - Sun 16 Nov 2003 16:02:23

"Baby Baby" - Corona (1995)
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Pinkboard Jukebox - Mon 17 Nov 2003 00:09:29

The girlfriend and I will be at Hellfire this NYE, maybe helping out a bit too. I'm packing the rope bag(though not the only thing I'll be packing ;-) and Dancing With Perverts to see in the new year. Prolly won't be doing Queer Nation the next day, but you never know, I might get my second wind.

Gurlesque at the Imperial tonight was f*cking amazing! We had the best time, and have aching sides from laughing and applauding and cheering. Sex, Glitta and all their wonderful performers set new highs (lows?) for a lesbian strip club. For some reason the strippers liked to pick on me... must be the grey hair :-)
Evil Twin - Mon 17 Nov 2003 01:36:49

I loved that tune back in '95 :)

Anyway, Changing Subjects. Todays vote poll question of the Nine MSN website is as follows -

Do you support a total ban on smoking in pubs and clubs?

Currently the vote is running 72% in favour , 28% not.

I simply cant wait for the Government to enforce this legislation by July next year. Who knows, I might even start going out again knowing I can breathe in the club !
Luke - Mon 17 Nov 2003 09:05:55

WRONG! Highest eviction ever was actually Jo Ashton 78% in last BB series, supposedly a vistim of tall poppy syndrome. She is hosting tomorrow's queer eye effort
- Mon 17 Nov 2003 09:53:40

Classic dance music is not an oxymoron

Compliments department:
I did the shift bar, Stonewall then Arq, All good. Arq went off AGAIN. Calm and friendly people just the way I like it.

Complaints department:
Kinsela's security told me to F*** off as I asked a patron the time when I was walking past - I hate that place more everyday!

Why do big SCARY dykes like to aggresivley push people like me away? WHERE IS THE LOVE? They are so obnoxious so full of attitude and hatred! (it's about time I took a stand) I have been pushed and shoved by quite a few and I'm SICK of it. Thanks for the midnightshift - it has never happened to me there but it does at Arq and Phoenix, for some reason.

Having said that, I am very pleased to see that Kelly Lynch is playing at Arq soon - I will be there!!!
deep cover - Mon 17 Nov 2003 10:21:11

Drop the cover charge if the place is empty. You will still get my money, I will buy a few extra drink and tip well. I explained this to the doorman but he moved me on.

What is it going to be guys - cover charge one week and not the next? I doubt I will ever go back there, anyway.
advice - Mon 17 Nov 2003 10:27:16

As for NYE, we're doing Tropical Fruits. Anyone else going?

Ms Golightly, we're going to Here and Now tonight as well. Maybe we should meet up in the bar?
High Femme - Mon 17 Nov 2003 11:30:19

Sat night was huge! Hot guys everywhere and good music from Paul Goodyear. The last couple of times I've heard him play he played a different style of music but this night seemed to be the Paul of old. I think I annoyed him for quite a few names of songs....

Luke Leal at Arq last night was great!! Most of the night I heard people commenting on how good the music was! He made my boyfriends night!
Craig (& Steve) - Mon 17 Nov 2003 11:37:08

Thanks for Your Opinion but **please don't quote attendance figures unless you are prepared to state accurate ones**.
Inquisition XI at Stage 11/ City Live in 2003 sold less than 1,900 tickets. The stated capacity of Stage 11 including the bus bay area is 1,900 - 2000 head (depending on the size of bus bay area taken - SLPA had only 1/2 of the possible space). Inquisition is in May (cooler weather) and it rained All Night (that can't be helped eh?) therefore the dancefloor inside was more populated than expected.
Pride are choosing a sale-able event (1,900) over a risk-taking event (3,000+) to ensure a profit is made and their coffers are replenished to be able to continue past 2004. This is a smart move and one that should be applauded.

Pride NYE and Inquisition are of course apples and oranges but the venue is/was the same.
For those choosing their NYE event my opinion is that Pride would be cozy but still with a dance party feel and Mobile Home has that 'Mega-event' feel.
Go with what you like best - I'm taking the route I like best and having a perverts' NYE as that suits me.
Lil - Mon 17 Nov 2003 12:03:03

Lil is correct. There were well under 1900 tickets sold to Inquisition XI. I don't think that there would have been more than 1700 in the venue at anyone time.

Unless Pride are going to place a tent over the entiure parking bay or a big part of it (around $15-230K's worth - hocking is very expensive) the over crowing issues could be the same if it rains or gets cold. Plus any music has to be at a wisper outside.

I might add that at no time was the top level or other areas besides the dance floor of Stage 11 full during Inquisition, and if people are stupid enough to constantly stand in the walk ways despite being moved on many times then even a party in a footy field would get a crush effect at some part. But then... I thought the crush was what people wanted???
- Mon 17 Nov 2003 13:13:15

yes, that was ET and the girlfriend making sure we could survive the long night's entertainment at Gurlesque - realising with irony of course that it is terribly un-PC to eat that There but as the rains came down on the way in drive-through was the only viable alternative ! now if someone could arrange table service we'd be perfectly happy.
Greatly enjoyed the show and looking forward to the next one in December (neatly just before xmas).
come up and say hi next time (do you think ET got quite enough attention for one night? ... that naughty Gayna)
regards
The Girlfriend - Mon 17 Nov 2003 13:56:02

exactly whats been worrying me ie its the music in Stage 11 I want to be dancing to and I hate dance floor crushes ( I leave the RHI before shows when it gets like that ) I like some room to move.
I can understand Pride downsizing and would happily have gone if we were able to use Dome but City Live just does not do it for due to the tiny dance floor.
Outdoor area wont be my scene. Just wish they had found another venue. Surely with the stacks of straight parties/raves there is something inbetween Hordern and City Live ?

We do like the mega party so thanks Brad W ( although I'm not sure what you
mean by left hand side up high ( I get the left hand side just not the up high ? ) cause if we go will gladly look out for girlfriends.
Decisions , Decisions ! - Mon 17 Nov 2003 19:08:33

sorry you had a bad experience though and hope you do go back, a shame to miss out on such a cool venue
not even a staff member - Mon 17 Nov 2003 19:43:59

PS - Ms Golightly was not the guy in the front row wearing the kim wilde shirt and projected onto the video screens - whoever you are, i want that shirt!!!
Ms Golightly - Mon 17 Nov 2003 23:14:11

I was happy to see so many queers, especially of the lesbian variety. But disappointed to see so many leave once Human League took to the stage. There's no accounting for taste.
High Femme - Mon 17 Nov 2003 23:41:28

"Take Me To Your Heart" - Rick Astley (1989)
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Pinkboard Jukebox - Tue 18 Nov 2003 00:06:14

That song gives me goosebumps - Thanks Jukebox, great pick !
WOW ---- That sure is a wonderful trip down memory lane !!!! - Tue 18 Nov 2003 09:01:56

Wasn't a big fan of the Go West stuff at the time of release, but have to admit they were crowd pleasers last night. Belinda looked great and picked the best possible tracks for her set (I love circle in the sand and I didn't think she would do mad about you, so I was stoked!). It's a pity she sang the wrong lines in summer rain a few times. Not to worry.

Kim Wilde was by far the standout performance. I proved she knew what she was singing about when she sang "You Came" as literally, I did just that. HEAVEN! I was thinking about you during her knockout set. Where you the blonde guy that came running down to the front row when she came on?

As for Human League, they did a great job, but I think they were a little displaced. Kim should have been the headlining act to close the show. It shoulda gone the aussies, then Belinda, Human League and closing with Kim. I'm not even going to mention Paul Young (zzzzzz).
JK - Tue 18 Nov 2003 14:10:48

Friday - Above and Beyond
Saturday - Ruby

Yay for Trance :-P
BubbleBoi - Tue 18 Nov 2003 14:52:29

JK - natural blonde? nah, that wasn't me. Towards the back of the flat seating on the left...was incapable of movement when KW came on...i was transfixed...everybody liked my mesh singlet though!
Ms Golightly - Tue 18 Nov 2003 18:36:13

Nice place. I said "Hello Ladies" to a couple and they responded with a "F**K OFF" Very LOUD! HOW'S THAT? amazing! truly vile behavious, I thought.

Charming crowd! But without any sarcasm, the music is always dark and cool so it's the DJ's that draw me in.
Here's hoping - Tue 18 Nov 2003 18:39:30

A couple of pro's with oodles of talent and experience, having a good time with a keen and responsive crowd - it doesn't get much better!

Pete Farris is also doing a good job there.

*-+-* thank you boys for a such a fun night *-+-*
- Tue 18 Nov 2003 18:54:18

This lady is NOT a commercially-music influenced DJ.

I have heard her at Phoenix - I couldn't dance to a thing but that didn't stop me from listening (for hours) to what I thought to be the MOST odd and eclectic mix of electronica? (not sure what to call it) that I had ever heard. Scruffy crowd but no hostility. Interesting to say the least but I wanna dance!

She's out there
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somewhere - Tue 18 Nov 2003 19:07:30

We are all looking for love.

I will be listening for it there
- Tue 18 Nov 2003 19:13:28

So re rumour of NYE party as Space ?

Can anyone let me please what the venue is like ? mainly the size of the
dance floor/s ? etc
Looking for an alternative to City Live/Stage 11. - Tue 18 Nov 2003 19:25:30

DJ's are: Beatrix (Alfred, Stonewall, Girls Sleaze Recovery) Chip (just about everywhere) & Calvin Wong (Stonewall, Berlin, Gay Games)

We are trying to make this a monthly night, but for this to happen we need your support. So come along to a night that is all about the music! You won't be disappointed.

Check out the website for more info:

http://www.members.optusnet.com.au/rangerboi/back2love.html

I've just put some pics up from the last Back 2 Love, so if you were at the last one or earlier parties, there might be one of you doing your best Solid Gold dance routine (Crystal was always my favourite!)

I have organised some specials on cocktails and shots. Back 2 Love will have a selection of wicked cocktails for $8.00, and some seriously tasty shots for $5.00. So make sure you indulge in one or two, (or three or four! What ever rocks your box)

Pinkboard Jukebox. My offer still stands to put you on the door @ Back 2 Love. I should be giving you a job there! *laughs* Your music you play here is exactly what back 2 Love is about.

Also, any DJs that would be interested in playing future Back 2 Love parties, you can contact me via the website.

See you all on the dance floor!
Scottie - Back 2 Love promoter - Tue 18 Nov 2003 21:00:59

i beleive they have paul goodyear and kate monroe booked so far
- Tue 18 Nov 2003 21:23:52

Rick Astley was such a hottie back then in '89.

I remember seeing him live at the Entertainment Centre with my boyfriend at the time. It was a truly great nights entertainment.

Its a shame Rick Astley only lasted a few years on the pop circuit, he was one of the few male vocalists of the time that had a truly amazing voice.

It would be fantastic if someone could do a 2003 remix of this or any other of Ricks hit singles.

"Take me to your heart" , "Together Forever" and "Never gonna give you up" all hold very very fond memories for me.
SB - Tue 18 Nov 2003 21:40:44

"Light My Fire" - Clubhouse Featuring Carl (1993)
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Pinkboard Jukebox - Wed 19 Nov 2003 00:07:37

to "Here's Hoping" glad to hear you are convinced to go back, I will be down there THIS week with a smile for you anyway x
- Wed 19 Nov 2003 00:17:48

What is "space"?
psychonaut - Wed 19 Nov 2003 11:01:33

derrrrr mr paranoid
- Wed 19 Nov 2003 11:45:15

Thanks. Now that wasn't hard at all. Was it? :)
- Wed 19 Nov 2003 13:32:00

using our beloved Hordern/RHI can you give us an approximate idea of the dance floor sizes for mobile home ? Also a mobile home virgin.

Are there bleachers ? high ceilings ? plenty of loos ? etc ?

Will Wharf 3 be hard to get to ie can you drive ? or just taxis ?
Thanks for an update - Wed 19 Nov 2003 19:23:57

oh dear...i think i'll down a couple of vodka martini's and brave indulgence - despite not insignificant dress code issues
Ms Golightly - Wed 19 Nov 2003 20:03:31

- has there been any advertising for G.A.Y? or are the promoters relying on word-of-mouth?

- thanks for telling us where Space is :)
ignorant punter - Wed 19 Nov 2003 21:16:19

Those people on the email mailing list for G.A.Y received info on this party nearly 3 weeks ago.

The DJ's for G.A.Y were listed on this site on the 11th Nov... I refer you to posting made at (Tue 11 Nov 2003 09:21:43)
gay gay gaything - Wed 19 Nov 2003 21:21:40

My advice is to go late - wait for the alcohol fuelled revellers to pass out and go no earlier than 3 am.

And to any rugby lovers, I have given AWAY (a gift anyway) my Category A tickets FREE because I would rather hear a DJ than watch a game of football.
THAT's how much I love my faggy DJ's - Thu 20 Nov 2003 08:17:35

http://www.queerplanet.com.au/GAY/
- Thu 20 Nov 2003 09:15:32

See you there Ms Golightly.......Shift is my preferred choice of NYE venue too. I've not been to an INDULGENCE party before, so it will make my NYE very intersting !

I've been to an ARQ NYE before and it wasn't my cup of tea (I prefer to spend the night with fellow homosexuals), Stage 11 just doesn't do 'it' for me....Mobile Home - I don't think certain dance-floor actics would be tolerated !!
Josh - Thu 20 Nov 2003 09:19:06

Sartor's divide and conquer?
November 20, 2003

Can Frank Sartor explain why he feels compelled to further isolate the Cancer Council of NSW? Having sidelined it from research - a role transferred to his $50 million a year Cancer Institute - the NSW Minister for Science and Medical Research wants to swat the council for having the audacity to campaign for a government ban on tobacco smoking in pubs and clubs.

The council applies the logical argument that if passive smoking endangers health in other enclosed spaces, where it is banned, it most certainly is a danger in crowded bars. Instead of encouraging vigour against the agents of cancer, Mr Sartor chooses to tell the council to mind its own business. He argues that if the council did its job, no one would smoke and, therefore, smoking in drinking places would not be an issue. That is a gratuitous statement of the bleeding obvious.

National Health and Medical Research Council reports, in 1986 and 1997, linked passive smoking to lung cancer, asthma, respiratory and heart disease, glue ear and cot deaths. The Federal Court has branded as misleading or deceptive tobacco industry denials of the detrimental effects of passive smoking. Employees, including bar workers, have successfully sued for occupational harm. Smoking was banned in dining areas, including those of pubs and clubs, two years ago and now, a union campaign has begun for an extension to drinking areas.

Only the ACT has indicated it will follow through, giving pubs and clubs five years to adapt, and NSW has banned smoking at serving bars and insisted, from next July, that clubs and pubs with at least two bars make one of them non-smoking.

Why such hesitancy? Pubs were Labor's biggest donors, pumping $1.7 million into its last campaign war chest, and the Government is engaged in a bruising contest over taxation with registered clubs. Although just 20 per cent of Australians smoke, and despite a rash of surveys showing that most club and pub patrons support smoking bans, the Government worries that smoking bans in bars would annoy its own constituency disproportionately. Hence, the silly 2001 undertaking by then health minister, Craig Knowles, to preserve "that great Aussie tradition" of "breasting the bar with a beer and a cigarette".

The greater obligation, of course, is to preserve the health of all while tackling the estimated $500,000 daily cost of treating smoke illnesses. The Quit campaigns Mr Sartor argues should be the Cancer Council's focus must necessarily be waged on several fronts - from public education to restricting havens that encourage smoking, passive and active. The case against bar smoking is overwhelming in terms of science, cost and policy consistency. If the Government is not fair dinkum about advancing such a ban in NSW, it had best give the public an unambiguous explanation.

In the meantime, Mr Sartor should be a little more gracious. It does him no credit to be seen to be bullying into silence those who advocate sound anti-smoking initiatives, whatever political tensions they might generate.
cough, cough... - Thu 20 Nov 2003 10:48:42

Actually, in essence, Space is a part of Shark Bar. It is owned and run by the same people, it is just a part of the building that they have turned into a new area called "Space". Shark Bar still exsists on the lower level and "Space" is on the upper level. They are separate spaces, but all still part of Shark Bar. I got this information from my brother who has worked there for over a year. After reading that Shark Bar had closed and been turned into Space, I called him and he gave the the facts.
- Thu 20 Nov 2003 11:32:53

Unfortunately not! That's just a great example of 'brand poaching'. I don't know what the kooky kids think, but it sure looks like a ripoff from here
- Thu 20 Nov 2003 13:34:33

We have THE SPACE COWBOY (who is in a brilliant show at the Opera House at the moment called The Happy Sideshow) and he'll be swallowing more than you can imagine at midnight.

Morgan (or Dangerboy) who has performed at events like Hellfire, and Inquisition (and designed the last Inquisition poster) has run out of visa, so we'll be sending him off with a bang (and probably a man smeared in cake for him to lick off.

We'll also have Australian Dance Award Winners The Fondue Set at 1am.

In the DJ department we have MANDY ROLLINS, LANNY K and MISS YETTI. There are also cheap cocktails up until midnight, discounted ticket offers for The Happy Sideshow at the Sydney Opera House, and you can buy your Hellfire New Year's Evil tickets. Lots of reasons to cum see us at Icebox, 2 Kellett St Kings Cross tomorrow night.

Have a fun weekend whatever takes your fancy!
Ultra
The Hellfire Club
http://www.hellfiresydney.com
- Thu 20 Nov 2003 17:25:07

rob davis, mike kelly and mandy rollins!!!
- Thu 20 Nov 2003 18:40:04

I've just read that there's another Queer Nation party on January 1. Can anyone who's been to one of the QN parties give me some info on it such as what the crowd are usually like, the music, the lights etc?

Thanks :)
- Thu 20 Nov 2003 22:00:41

I haven't missed a party yet! I need my dose of good luvin'

"I know you need it
Brother said he needs it
Sister said she needs it
We're all gonna need it someday
We seem to lose our way
Somehow got lead astray
That's why I'm here to stay
Gotta get back get back to love"
Big Booty Betty - Thu 20 Nov 2003 23:19:08

"Down To Earth" - Grace (1996)
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Pinkboard Jukebox - Fri 21 Nov 2003 00:08:49

If you have no interest in mobile home nye Mr Panties then fine. Actually its making me laugh as now its a reversal ie a few gay people wondering what its going to be like at straight parties just like the straights must be worried
when they go to a gay party and guess what ? the straights seem to go in a group and hang out together as well. So whats wrong with gays wanting to get
together ?
Just so long as they are accepting to us as we have been to them.

I'm trying to convince some friends to go as City Live has way too small a dance floor.
a Reversal - Fri 21 Nov 2003 07:27:36

I wanted to make it clear that I do not have a problem partying with heterosexuals at all, but my preference for wanting to party with fellow gays and lesbians on this particular night of the year is just that, a preference. I want to be in an environment where I can feel relaxed about being affectionate with my BF and not have to be worried about having a bottle of water thrown at the back of my head or God forbid, something far more damaging.

Please don't be so quick to presume that because I chose to hang out with one group of people means I dislike another - 'cos it just ain't so.
Josh - Fri 21 Nov 2003 11:13:53

It is being talked about that a boy died after G overdose complications just on a week ago - another boy.... another wasted death.

The police will be out in force, again, this weekend.

Party safely, leave the G at home for your private managed recovery parties (if you must), and have a good weekend.

See you out and about.
Noisy Gyspy - Fri 21 Nov 2003 11:37:41

http://www.smh.com.au/articles/2003/11/21/1069027296559.html

I echo the comment made by Noisy Gypsy.
Josh - Fri 21 Nov 2003 12:30:06

I would like to inform you all of a great NEW Sunday afternoon event called SMOOCH!

It's being held at the fabulous East Village (2 mins from Taylor Square) & features a fantastic rooftop bar with beautiful city views. The promoter (who used to run 'Milk 'n' 2 Sugars), has secured none other than Stephen Alkins (LOVE TATTOO) who will be playing all new tracks off his forthcoming LOVE TATTOO album.

The Launch Party on Sunday 14th December & is a fundraiser for the Bobby Goldsmith Foundation. $10 at the door / $5 goes to BGF

DJs include Scott Pullen (Queer Nation/Milk 'n' 2 Sugars), Renae Stanton (Mardis Gras/Arq/Civic) & soon-to-be SX Cover Boy, Peter Fam (Arq/Midnight Shift/Colombian).

Sit back with a friend on the comfy lounges at the rooftop bar, sip on a cocktail & watch the sunset over the city.

We hope to see you all there!
Smoocher - Fri 21 Nov 2003 13:11:41

Both Tribal & Tropical are on. Me, I'm going to Tropical Fruits, the original, the best, and a non-profit community organisation!
- Fri 21 Nov 2003 15:50:19

"Open Your Mind" - U.S.U.R.A (1992)
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Pinkboard Jukebox - Sat 22 Nov 2003 02:49:05

By the way boys, we shouldn't be afraid of straight (targeted) dance parties - most of them are littered with gay boys that don't do gay clubbing, not to mention the few that are "easily persuaded" after a few drinks... hehehe
Deciding - Sat 22 Nov 2003 09:42:35

Watching the rugby at home tonight to rest up and avoid the idiots. But the Imperial on sunday night for Femme Mystique queer night and Sveta DJing (haven't heard her play for ages).
Evil Twin - Sat 22 Nov 2003 14:00:49

Please let this not be true. I know these are difficult times but really how mainstream and disonnected from sexuality and sexyiness can Mardi Gras become!

Unless of coarse it is a 'Carry On'.
Margaret: 1 star for trying to be innovative albeit a failure. David: Unequivocally no stars! - Sat 22 Nov 2003 17:58:14

A very good idea!
- Sat 22 Nov 2003 18:56:13

Its going to be a very ugly night on the streets of Sydney tonight with all those drunken cocky yobbo pommies.
- Sat 22 Nov 2003 22:31:50

I'd believe it. But why do they (straights) face the DJ? It is the rock-concert culture that does it, perhaps?

Imagine the pressure on the poor DJ that gets stared at throughout their entire set. An interesting observation; thanks for the tip
- Sat 22 Nov 2003 23:09:44

For next year's MG, NMG have asked for 3 copies of a DJ's demo. I am assuming this is to ensure that demos can be circulated amongst the committee quicker, as there can be 3 in circulation at one time rather than just one copy making the rounds. As a community funded organisation with limited funds, it is more cost effective for them asking each DJ to make 3 copies of their submission rather than NMG having to make 3 copies of every submission that gets sent in.

Blank CD's cost around $1.99 each and you can basically run the demo into your PC or Mac, then walk away, returning every few minutes to change the blank CD's over. Really, it's not that much of an inconvenience.
JK - Sun 23 Nov 2003 11:11:09

"Let Me Be Your Fantasy" - Baby D (1994)
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Pinkboard Jukebox - Sun 23 Nov 2003 11:33:59

Apart form the ice poles I had a fantatsic time and thanks also to Joyce to read me wonderful stories which were extremely trippy.

Peace.
Luke-Darlo - Sun 23 Nov 2003 15:05:36

Now, is anybody aware of any good remixes of the new no doubt single "its my life"?
Ms Golightly - Sun 23 Nov 2003 18:53:50

Darl.....it's probably NOT the icepoles that are tasteless - it's probably your lack of tasting ability due to the disco medication, smoke machine and cigarette smoke !!
- Sun 23 Nov 2003 19:17:58

Do you mean the "Its my Life" song originally recorded by the group Talk Talk back in 1984 or 1985 ?

If its the same song then yes I do know where there is an updated remix of this song but its not recorded by No Doubt.
- Sun 23 Nov 2003 19:23:59

Where's the version that used to get played by all the DJ's , wasnt it the Dancing Divaz Mix ??

Juzzy, I dont know where you got that yukky break beat mix from but let me tell you darls , it truly is rank !
Wrong Baby ... Maybe thats Baby X ?? - Sun 23 Nov 2003 22:59:40

"I Haven't Stopped Dancing Yet" - Pat & Mick (1989)
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Pinkboard Jukebox - Mon 24 Nov 2003 00:12:43

If its the same song then yes I do know where there is an updated remix of this song but its not recorded by No Doubt.
- Sun 23 Nov 2003 19:23:59

DJ to the rescue! This current remix version is by:
Ignition X - It's My Life (Almighty 12 Inch Mix)
A very trancey remix even for the Almighty crew. I personally love it! Great track.
Justin Scott - Mon 24 Nov 2003 05:28:24

Juzzy, I dont know where you got that yukky break beat mix from but let me tell you darls , it truly is rank !
Wrong Baby ... Maybe thats Baby X ?? - Sun 23 Nov 2003 22:59:40

Oops! You're absolutley right. I've accidentally uploaded the wrong mix.
All fixed now and updated :)
Check it out again.
Am I forgiven?
Justin Scott - Mon 24 Nov 2003 07:02:15

Can't please everyone! (not through lack of trying)
No offence taken.
neal crawford - Mon 24 Nov 2003 09:33:57

No you HAVE NOT fixed it. Its still that awful break beat version of Baby-D

Shame on you, You are NOT forgiven.
Brian - Mon 24 Nov 2003 10:14:40

My only complaints were that it was just WAY too hot, even though we were dancing in the coolest part of the room. The music was a little too loud (don't like it when my ears are ringing afterwards) and, at times, the lasers were just a little bit overwhelming. But those are only minor complaints.

The Arq recovery was a very nice change to the usual. Darker trance, fantastic lighting/lasers, much more bearable room temperature, and less imposing security - if only Arq was like that all of the time....
- Mon 24 Nov 2003 14:23:11

The "rank 1 remix' is the one you want.
milky bar kid - Mon 24 Nov 2003 14:48:09

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'You will tremble with exhilaration and terror as you watch the world of the Black Sea Gentlemen collide with that of The Happy Sideshow.
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Space Cowboy fan - Mon 24 Nov 2003 14:55:57

"Bot hot?" I'm picking more, "hot bot," love :)
- Mon 24 Nov 2003 16:36:53

I think many of us are no longer going to submit for NMG parties again after mardi gras and sleaze ball. very few of the underground DJs will ever submit again due to disgust with NMG DJ selections, and the commercial-ish DJs who have done it before aren't really excited by their events anymore either. looks like it will be another year of debut performences of has-beens and unknowns at the rate unless NMG get their S*#t together this time.
- Mon 24 Nov 2003 17:27:33
This is the opinion of the poster.

The artistic team for PRIDE’s Near Year’s Eve Party Kooky Karousel is looking for volunteer dancers, prancers and vixens to perform on stage or in a roving capacity at this year’s event.

No experience is necessary – PRIDE just wants to see people with a fun attitude and an ability to attend rehearsals. If dancing, prancing or vixening isn’t your bag, we are also looking for stilt walkers, jugglers, fire-eaters and other random acts of kookiness.

Sign-ups and auditions will be held at the Sydney PRIDE Centre, 104 Erskineville Road Erskineville on Saturday 29th November from 12 noon.
Ring Gordon on (02) 9550 6188 for any urgent enquiries or just turn up on the day.

Lou-Anne Lind
Co-President
Sydney PRIDE Centre
- Mon 24 Nov 2003 18:35:29

Just another note to say that Ruby was a FANTASTIC party. Each of the DJ's were outstanding. Also Ruby was back to his very best after a brief (and unwelcome) foray into pop/handbag at previous parties. So thanks again Ruby. I only noticed one dodgy transition... but nobody's perfect. :)

I thought the sound was better all-round than the last few parties where the volume on the stage was unbearable. It was right-on for Saturday.

And overwhelming lasers? Are you kidding? That's the whole point, isn't it...?

And if you don't like the iceblocks and/or can't open them because you're too... distracted, well, the rest of us think they're pretty cool.

Thanks also to all the clubbers who left their GHB at home. Our clubs are much better places without the sight of security guards having to give you a hard time and your fellow clubbers having to babysit you. If you do it at home, fine, but be safe.

Hope you're all having a bearable Monday...
Trance Addict - Mon 24 Nov 2003 20:25:58

Thanks Justin Scott - i will look that one up. Great work on the juke box as well.

and finally, for fans of glittering 80's pop such as me...the new simple minds double DVD (seen the lights) is too much fun...obviously choreographers were a 90's phenomenon !

ta ta for now
Ms Golightly - Mon 24 Nov 2003 23:13:31

"Brilliant Feeling" - Full Monty Alstars (1995)
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Pinkboard Jukebox - Tue 25 Nov 2003 00:14:01

What? Sleaze has received more appreciative comments than any dance party in recent memory. Most people I've spoken to had a great time and thought the DJ line-up was fine. And there was, from memory, one relatively 'unknown' in the whole line-up. Sounds like a personal problem to me, luv ;)
- Tue 25 Nov 2003 09:47:36

OH YES YES YES YES !!!!

That song soooooo gave me an inner brilliant feeling every time I danced to it!

Classic !!!!
Brian - Tue 25 Nov 2003 10:56:55

This kindas conflicts with the feedback on these walls re the DJ/Music etc at Sleaze Ball. And it seems awfully early for MG bashing - perhaps a bad case of monday morning blues maybe?

Remember that submissions are just that, that they are the beginning of a selection process, and that some will be accepted and some will not - that is the case with any job or profession, and just because you don't get the gig does not mean you should walk away in disgust!

As with all things in life you win some and you lose some, and it is no good being a sore loser, and if it happens often you probably need to rethink how you are approaching the whole thing - maybe you are in the wrong profession??
- Tue 25 Nov 2003 12:49:18

"Shine your light on me, I'm the only one who really loved you. Put your faith in me, I will give you everything you need".

It was just what i needed to hear...
Mark - Tue 25 Nov 2003 13:48:31

"There are pharmaceutical companies working on freeze-dried semen products, in tablet form."

In case anyone was wondering........ but frankly I find it a little hard to swallow.
- Tue 25 Nov 2003 13:48:59

The track is "One more chance" by The Space Brothers.
Ryan Murphy - Tue 25 Nov 2003 14:27:20

In case anyone was wondering........ but frankly I find it a little hard to swallow.
- Tue 25 Nov 2003 13:48:59

Surely this removes all the fun of going through the motions of having semen in your mouth in the first place.

I'll stick with the traditional method thanks.....my number is ........
Josh - Tue 25 Nov 2003 15:20:14

I'm with you Josh , why on earth has someone bothered with semen in pill form ?
wonder how much money was wasted on that experiment ?
Hope to get there - Tue 25 Nov 2003 17:27:14

*+-+-+-+-+-+-+-*

I hope i'm not out-of-line by asking that to offset the effect of the HOT DJ's that you ensure the air-conditioning is up to scratch.

Most parties and venues fall short of addressing this vital issue. Even the clubs fiddle with the air con and don't we know it!

To all those with vested interests in venue comfort - I am usually quite warm before I get there now and it's not even summer yet.
cool - Tue 25 Nov 2003 18:14:04

"All Or Nothing" - Cher (1999)
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Pinkboard Jukebox - Wed 26 Nov 2003 00:13:13

Gee. That would be 'perplexing' alright......:) Where do big guys over 40 get off trying to party like normal poofs?
- Wed 26 Nov 2003 10:36:43

It's a catchy little number, for sure. Panther, we are all DJ's in our own way!
- Wed 26 Nov 2003 16:28:11

http://www.residentadvisor.com.au/club.asp

its got info on majority of upcoming events and when you click on venueus
you will see another link to photos from previous events.

Shows how big Wharf 3 is . Space Bar photos all pretty dark but it shows a
reasonable size dance floor.
Just for you - Wed 26 Nov 2003 18:13:05

Ahh - The Dead Eyes Opened, now THAT was a great song to hear at the MG just gone! Totally did my boyfriend's head in at the time (evil cackle)... and I couldn't believe it was being played - It was my favourite song back in the day!
Gonzo - Wed 26 Nov 2003 18:49:21

"Keep Warm" - Jinny (1991), Remixed in (1995) , Remixed again in (2003)
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Pinkboard Jukebox - Thu 27 Nov 2003 01:22:17

SHAME ON YOU!!! I myself am not a bear, but in the same token except every in my community who is partying. This is why I liked the shift so much, it's exceptance, lack of attitude, and a great hassle free time.

Please don't trun the shift into another ARQ!! We do not need another body beautiful only club......

If I remember rightly it would be these people (bears, older crowd etc), that have been supporters of the shift, like myself, and have kept the shift going, and been able to help get it to what it is today.

Let's just appreciate and except, and enjoy the the moments for what they are.....'GOOD TIMES', because God I know we all live in Glasshouses.
Young enough, but older enough to know better..... - Thu 27 Nov 2003 08:03:16

Take a good look in mirror, and you'll see that maybe your not as perfect as you thought either......
disappointed.... - Thu 27 Nov 2003 08:07:35

When I read nath's post I didn't get any impression that he was criticising the fact that you guys were at ruby... just stating that it was different from past parties and perhaps that he could think of no reason to explain it (hence "perplexing")...

You guys just seem to want any excuse to bag out anyone you see as remotely "twink"-like...
- Thu 27 Nov 2003 10:44:59

You're so right love! The mass persecution and suffering of twinks at the hands of non-twinks is just scandalous - if not totally perplexing! When will GLBTIQ community get around to recognising the legitimate rights of Twinks? Who, after all, gave the world the iconic, sequinned lycra dancepant?
GTLBTIQ Now! - Thu 27 Nov 2003 12:27:51

The Sydney scene has sadly become a rather all exclusive, non inclusive, and all too seperatist community these days. The slightest osmosis of queer types within their social sanctums creates such uproar outside the Big parties. Girls at leather bars, twinks at bears nights, bears on body paranoid dancefloors, straights at gay parties, gays at straight parties, drag queens and leather men waltzing. I mean really, 26 years of revolution seems almost a contradiction in terms.

Nath mate, no poke at you, your comment simply opened a can. Now I've had my rant I simply wish to say Peace & Filth to you all, and implore people to treat each other with a little more R.E.S.P.E.C.T. A lilttle less comment and a little more grind on the dancefloor please. You'll be surprised by the results...
Craig Ingrey - Thu 27 Nov 2003 13:47:05

there are only full price tix left for people thinking of going.

have a good one whatever you decide to do.
pride nye early bird tix sold out - Thu 27 Nov 2003 15:55:06

Darlin, that's pretty much the spirit of what all those "abusive/angry" comments were about. I feel a bit sorry for Nath who, after all, did had the good grace to explain what he meant by "perplexed," but he's probably done us a good turn by revealing the extent to which people are over ageist/sizeist,whateverist categorisation. If people are partying and having a good time together who gives a toss about politically correct chest to waist ratios?
- Thu 27 Nov 2003 17:49:10

I am a bear and I found no real malice in the comment, just an expression of surprise that one section of the community seemed to be out in force this time. Maybe there have been just as many bears at previous parties, maybe not, Maybe this was the first time Nath had noticed them.

We bears are everywhere at most clubs (alas some places still don't encourage larger men) and parties and most of us love a dance.

I know some bears who can outlast any younger, thinner and fitter people on the dance floor.
- Thu 27 Nov 2003 18:47:48

I haven't been for a few years and I am thinking about coming up for it.
Leathermanvic - Thu 27 Nov 2003 20:14:20

.. and Nath, what's the problem with bears and/or 40+ people? They are great to have around!

EMBRACE DIVERSITY - or stay home
- Thu 27 Nov 2003 20:17:57

Luke Leal and myself are playing at XTC. It is a party for about 800 people in a club called 7. I'm doing 10 - 1, Luke is doing 1 - 4, I think, and I think DJ Josh from Adelaide might be closing, although I am not 100% sure. The main room will be trance. I think there is also a smaller chill out space.

As for Magnitude, I can't tell you much. I know that XTC has been doing better than Magnitude in past months as it is cheaper, but I believe that Magnitude has decided to lower its ticket prices in order to compete. I imagine both parties will sell out in advance, so whatever you decide to do, decide soon. Hope this helps.
JK - Thu 27 Nov 2003 21:00:56

THERE ARE NOW EXACTLY 100 DAYS TO MARDI GRAS PARTY !!

THERE ARE NOW EXACTLY 100 DAYS TO MARDI GRAS PARTY !!

THERE ARE NOW EXACTLY 100 DAYS TO MARDI GRAS PARTY !!

THERE ARE NOW EXACTLY 100 DAYS TO MARDI GRAS PARTY !!

THERE ARE NOW EXACTLY 100 DAYS TO MARDI GRAS PARTY !!

THERE ARE NOW EXACTLY 100 DAYS TO MARDI GRAS PARTY !!

THERE ARE NOW EXACTLY 100 DAYS TO MARDI GRAS PARTY !!

THERE ARE NOW EXACTLY 100 DAYS TO MARDI GRAS PARTY !!
The Countdown is now officialy ON !!! - Thu 27 Nov 2003 21:16:56

Yes, they do!
- Thu 27 Nov 2003 21:52:47

Of course Queer Nation make a profit for a ticket at half the price of Pride.

But then again Home Nightclub dont have to pay a huge whopping sum on hiring a venue.

Nor do they have to pay a huge one off whopping public liabilty insurance premium.

Nor do they have to pay a sound and lighting company a huge whopping amount of money to put in a sound system and lights for one night only.

These are called overheads sweety. A regular nightclub doesnt have them. Pride does.

You dont have to be a rocket scientist to understand why dance party tiks are so much more expensive than a nightclub !!

I think your posting was very niave.
Think it through next time - Thu 27 Nov 2003 23:07:56
This message is unnecessarily nasty.

Take a look at www.rubydance.com.au There is an option to join the mailing list and Ruby will tell you when the next party is. The website has a gallery of all past Ruby Parties.....some great and not so great pictures !!
Josh - Fri 28 Nov 2003 08:50:11

I think I liked it better before he became to popular...
Love the Parties, but it's not Mardi Gras... - Fri 28 Nov 2003 09:50:44

Excuse me Mr Kilby, but can we also stress that the reason Magnitude have a higher price on the tickets is very much due to the quality of production costs. Full coloured lazers and imported sound are not cheap. And let's not forget that Magnitude will have The Space Brothers playing this New Year. (not to mention me:)

Will see you at recovery JK.
NC - Fri 28 Nov 2003 10:57:25

Head in the sand
- Fri 28 Nov 2003 11:48:57

Where will you be after Magnitude? We're flying back to Syd for QN that arvo, but would be great to get a beer with ya after our respective partays.
JK - Fri 28 Nov 2003 11:55:52

Totally understand that productions etc cost money, but compared with other events and venues it does seem quite steep. Not trying to 'bag out' the party, but maybe this price would have worked if it was a different venue.

Not sure what everyone else thinks, but to pay $90 for the shift is a bit expensive. I am a great supporter of the shift, but am reluctant at spending this amount for this event?
not a scrooge, but sensible? - Fri 28 Nov 2003 12:12:25

Guys and Girls, pleeeeaaaassseeee. Enough already.

Monday is World Aids Day - it is 20 years since the virus started an almighty war against our community that claimed so many extremely talented members of the entertainment industry, let alone every other industry and facet of this country.

Let's take just one small weekend out of bitching and/or dropping from G to remember those that went before us - who gave us the wonderful freedom and liberties that allow us to talk so freely on a wall like this about things that just didn't exist 30 years ago.

Ta people - have a safe weekend.

Lest We Forget our soldiers...
Noisy Gypsy - Fri 28 Nov 2003 14:38:50

Not bad Ruby, not bad. See, the Shift can be up there with the great clubs of the world.
- Fri 28 Nov 2003 14:56:06

Ruby Party photos are now up at - http://www.petezimagez.com/index.htm

For the people that are complaining about the $90 ticket price for the next party. Feel free to contact Ruby (details for contact at http://www.rubydance.com.au)and ask him why the tickets are the price they are.

Ruby will be able to give you a run down on all the special features of this night that make it worth the investment. The Ruby Party is a boutique party and thus is able to deliver a high end product to its patrons… a product that most people say surpasses that of higher capacity events.

Expect this event to sell out extremely fast. As the dedicated Trance fans will fight to get a chance to see The Space Brothers Live. (For those of you who don’t know who they are – What Madonna is to Pop – The Space Brothers are to Trance). Please note that the Space brothers also record under the following Names – Oxygen, Chakra, Essence, Force Majeure, Lustral and The Realm.
DJ Ryan Murphy - Fri 28 Nov 2003 15:48:30

Not sure of my exact travel plans yet but would like to catch Tiesto who is playing in Melb after his set @ Mobile Home. If you're up for a bit of Tiesto I can arrange tickets, or can't you afford it??
In fact i'm paid so well, I think I might even call you ;)

(the following statement was not an actual depliction of the truth)
neal crawford - Fri 28 Nov 2003 19:09:06

I'm having a bit of trouble locating Friday November 29, 2003 on my calandar.

Can anybody point me in the right direction ?
99 Days to Mardi Gras !! 99 Days to Mardi Gras !! 99 Days to Mardi Gras !! 99 Days to Mardi Gras !! 99 Days to Mardi Gras !! 99 Days to Mardi Gras !! 99 Days to Mardi Gras !! 99 Days to Mardi Gras !! 99 Days to Mardi Gras !! 99 Days to Mardi Gras !! 99 Days to Mardi Gras !! 99 Days to Mardi Gras !! 99 Days to Mardi Gras !! 99 Days to Mardi Gras !! - Fri 28 Nov 2003 20:57:15

"Nakasaki - I Need A Lover Tonight" - Ken Doh (1995)
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Pinkboard Jukebox - Sat 29 Nov 2003 02:58:01

We are just as perplexed. What to do for NYE. Yes would love to support Pride as we have been to every party they have put on but City Live is not our fave
venue. Beats me how its allowed to have a capacity of around 1500 ( only guessing here ) as a dance party is mainly for dancing and City Live dance floor lucky to hold about a 100 or so.

Maybe Pride could position the DJ's box at the end of one of the balconies ?
and that would open up the stage area where it normally is for more dancers ?
Just a thought Pride ? - Sat 29 Nov 2003 07:45:43

Noooooooooooo!! Please, no! Let's at least wait till after Xmas before we start vicious, internecine wars about rumours of MG DJ line-up's that we heard about from this queen that knows Michael Woodhouse's second cousin. Surely there are more immediate party line-ups that can be trashed, bagged, adulated, promoted and slept with in the meantime?
- Sat 29 Nov 2003 09:48:06

they can ask me!
- Sat 29 Nov 2003 14:40:34

absolutely my love...bring me some Cracker Barrel and we'll listen to Limahl, and while you're at it, pick up a sixpack of West Coast Cooler, honey!!!!
Sally - Sat 29 Nov 2003 19:51:56

Playing at Mardi Gras party would be a huge career highlight and I hope to do so one day but I personally feel I need more experience before I try my hand at the bigger parties.

Of course if I'm not working at the club that night, I will be at the party dancing, cheering on and supporting whatever DJ's MG chooses to present.
DJ Shanobear - Sat 29 Nov 2003 19:52:57

"Shocked" - Kylie Minogue (1990)
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Pinkboard Jukebox - Sun 30 Nov 2003 00:10:57

I think its a great idea and a little birdy also told me that a number of people at New Mardi Gras are VERY keen to see this idea come to reality.

They believe that a retro / classics space will bring a whole new dimension to the party and will attract alot of people back to this party who have not been in recent years.

Good luck to everybody I say. I know I will certainly spend alot of my night in that space if it comes to fruition
Luke - Sun 30 Nov 2003 08:42:20

Do you think I'll be safe from them in Manacle? (then again, I'm sure someone will think a "leather themed" office party will be a total hoot!)
Evil Twin - Sun 30 Nov 2003 10:55:59

http://www.smh.com.au/articles/2003/11/30/1070127256814.html
- Sun 30 Nov 2003 14:48:28

No comfortable shoe wearers, eh Evil Twin? ;)
- Sun 30 Nov 2003 16:24:20

6 Days to G.A.Y !!

97 Days to Mardi Gras !!

6 Days to G.A.Y !!

97 Days to Mardi Gras !!

6 Days to G.A.Y !!

97 Days to Mardi Gras !!

6 Days to G.A.Y !!

97 Days to Mardi Gras !!

6 Days to G.A.Y !!
Exciting isnt it ?? - Sun 30 Nov 2003 16:52:21

Crown St was still roped off when we drove past at 11.30 this morning. I wondered why, but now read that news story about the knifing. How dreadful! That's far too close to home.
Evil Twin - Sun 30 Nov 2003 18:16:52

Of course I realise that Pride have to pay all those additional costs in order to put on a Party in Stage 11! That's the whole point. It doesn't seem worth all that cost and effort to provide a party that may not offer what Queer Nation does at half the price. A lot of people with limited funds will make their choice based on what they perceive as value for money.

I've decided to go to Pride anyway as I think it will be a good night and I believe Pride will do something different with the space. Their website says they are looking at ways to increase the dance floor in Stage 11 so lets hope this makes the space a bit more comfortable.

I also read that Mandy Rollins intends to play music from her girly side including some classic divas with a Mandy Rollins twist! Just have to see what that's like!
GT - Sun 30 Nov 2003 20:12:44

am I the only person that's completely bored of that DJ ? she's too predictable for my liking
Frikka Frikka Fresh - Sun 30 Nov 2003 22:52:36

I'm not sure who the victim of this brutal crime is, but I hope they find the guy who did it and throw the book at him.
DJ Shanobear - Mon 1 Dec 2003 07:27:22

96 Days to Mardi Gras !!

5 Days to G.A.Y !!

96 Days to Mardi Gras !!

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Counting in the summer sun - Mon 1 Dec 2003 08:54:13

Not sticking up for the Ruby Party, but I do remember when ARQ was mega popular they used to also get away with charging quite expensive session prices? And what happened to that was that everyone woke up, and realised the alternatives were just as good for half the price....

I just love the Ruby parties, but just hope they have not over capitalised and end up being to repetative, expensive etc.... Funny JoJo is DJ at Ruby, it is almost like Frisky has just been reborn under a new name....

Ruby Party too expensive for the venue, sorry Ruby but after all it's the Shift, and for that price I would expect a lot more than the shift can offer. The prices for this compare to a New Years party etc, and look what they offer in comparision......

The Shift is after all one of our favourite club, but also very limited in what it can offer... I hope the party is successful, but I also hope GREED doesn't overpower and set a level for the pricing of future events...
$90 Expensive after New Year outlay..... - Mon 1 Dec 2003 10:47:09

yes you are.
- Mon 1 Dec 2003 12:08:53

no you are not... gets more boring everytime i hear that dj too. lots of people DO seem to be big fans still, don't get it
- Mon 1 Dec 2003 14:28:27

Can we also remember the other significance of December 1st - Wold AIDS Day...
Josh - Mon 1 Dec 2003 14:53:51

Just because you don't like it doesn't mean it is boring. Your taste is not representative of the community as a whole (nobody's taste is!). I'm sure many of us would find what you enjoy "boring". Please don't slag off someone who works hard, just go hear the DJ's you like and allow others to do the same.
- Mon 1 Dec 2003 18:08:00

Can you confirm what you are looking at doing with the dance floor in City Live/Stage 11 ?
I suggested a few posts ago about not using the stage area as the DJ box like
last year but opening it up for more dance area. Or is that stage area
demountable ? which would make the dance floor a decent size ?

I think most punters here like myself have been turned off from past parties
where the dance floor could not cope with the numbers. At least then we had the
choice of going to Hordern/RHI. We are only holding off buying tickets as only
interested in City Live DJ's/music.

It would be great if Pride could confirm/advise what they will do to increase the floor.
Knowing in advance saves any disappointment on the night.
Just a thought - Mon 1 Dec 2003 19:13:29

ARQ was great - packed out by 1am....heaps of fun...just like the good 'ol days !!
- Mon 1 Dec 2003 19:55:27

i think a hard working dj is one who is challenging, sure, but in touch with what people want. i do not find the style of music boring, just the delivery ... so mechanical.

as for slagging off the dj, sorry if i offended you or the person but i do have an opinion and that is the point of the wall. i read all sorts of comments i don't agree with here about other parties being fantastic and do not comment when i really disagree. i do think it is important to mention some things that are worth noting as no one else seems to be noticing. fair i hope? and hey, that dj does seem to play a lot of different parties these days so there is not much chance of avoidance...

anyway, sure that dj will get it together quickly as there is real talent in those shoes, it is just tucked firmly beneath the laces at the moment... here's hoping
- Mon 1 Dec 2003 22:59:37

"Where The Streets Have No Name" - Pet Shop Boys (1991)
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Pinkboard Jukebox - Tue 2 Dec 2003 00:08:11

Hope you have a great day x
SB - Tue 2 Dec 2003 09:53:32

Sunday 14th December 4pm - 10pm.

DJs: Stephen Allikns aka [LOVE] Tattoo
Scott Pullen (Terrace @ Queer Nation)
Peter Fam (Arq/Shift/Colombian)
Renae (Mardis Gras/Arq/Civic)

$10 entry / $5 goes to BGF

Did I mention the 1/2 priced Long Island Iced Teas from 4pm?
- Tue 2 Dec 2003 14:40:25

i'M SORRY THAT YOUR "PERPLEXED"but if you have ever been to a RUBY party and know how much energy, time, money and the quality that goes into planning these parties then $88 including booking fee is not asking that much. The RUBY parties are the most unique thing going on in oxford street these days. The most fun, creative and attitiude free parties one can go to. Please explain if why the parties sell out so fast????? if people thought they were getting ripped off they simply would'nt go. I dont think this party will have any trouble selling out even at $88. How may SOLD OUT signs have you seen on GAY posters this week?? with 4 days to go.

Yeah its only the shift but the venue is not the party. The party is what the RUBY team is able to do with the place to make it an experience. An experince that goes beyond normal Friday to Sunday Drag shows. RUBY offers something more and people like it. To make it clear as well i am not on the RUBY payroll simply a absolute RUBY fan who loves what this guys has and will achieve in our Sydney clubbing scene.
Luke Darlo - Tue 2 Dec 2003 16:17:11

I'd also be surprised if it sells out. Summer is typically full of parties.....GAY, NYE, RUBY, TOYBOX, Harbour Party (is this going ahead next year ?), MG and all the other smaller more boutique-y parties thrown in.....as Effiie would say "How Expensement...!"

But there's no doubt many of us will attend all of the above - and go to ARQ or wherever in betweeen.

I'll be happy with GAY this weekend. The Gals and Johan always make it a fun party.....and I'm going in drag !
Josh - Tue 2 Dec 2003 18:26:47

ARQ feat THE SPACE BROTHERS / New Years Night / more details soon....

anyone have any info on this?

just out of interest, The Space Brothers are playing magnitude in melb on nye, and the site says $75 + bf with a max of 900 tickets = $67,500 gross + 900*bf

if ruby is $88 inc bf with i think a max of 600 (?) tickets = $52,800 gross

maybe an oversimplistic comparison but hey :-)
- Tue 2 Dec 2003 18:32:03

Thanks also to the DJs: Beatrix, Chip, and Calvin Wong, who all did a fantastic job, and made Back 2 Love exactly what it promised - a night that is all about the music. I saw many a punter with huge smiles of recognition, when the heard classic tracks that they haven't heard out for years!

The next Back 2 Love is on Saturday December 20th. 9PM - late @ The Lava Bar (Top floor of The Burdekin) Entry is $10

DJs for the evening are:

Beatrix
Calvin Wong
Renae

If yop want to find out what keeps people coming back for more lovin' mark the 20th in your diary and pop along to Back 2 Love. You wont be disappointed.

More info to follow later, but in the meantime I can be contacted via back2love@optusnet.com.au if anyone needs to know anything.

Hope to see you all on the dancefloor!
Scottie & The Back 2 Love Crew - Tue 2 Dec 2003 20:04:30

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counting all the way !!! - Tue 2 Dec 2003 22:23:51

I had the option of bringing them to you in a simple "concert form" (and be like every other touring artist at a venue), or to combine it with a full Ruby party, complete with themeing, and the sound, lighting and lasers of the standard that we are known for. I chose the latter because I had the opportunity to bring you the "event of a lifetime" (well for me anyway).

Our last 2 parties have had a ticket price of $40, and I am on public record now as stating my intention that RP11 (probably in May 2004) will revert to the $40 price. I lose a lot of money on each party, and this party with the Space Brothers (and even at $88) will be no exception. But, I do not do this to make money. We get to share this quite remarkable music with lots of people. The payment I get is seeing the happiness and joy on the dance floor. For me it doesnt get much better than that.
Ruby - Tue 2 Dec 2003 22:34:33

"To Go Crazy (In the 20th Century)" - Lee Marrow (1990)
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Pinkboard Jukebox - Wed 3 Dec 2003 00:29:51

Thanks heaps for the track title & artist Ryan!!!

Mark.
Mark - Wed 3 Dec 2003 05:14:45

If you are in Sydney on the MG weekend, try Queer Nation. A great party for a great price. Tickets always sell out though, so make sure you get in early.

I'll be seeing you at XTC on NYE.
JK - Wed 3 Dec 2003 09:17:38

Do you mean that you don't make a profit?
- Wed 3 Dec 2003 13:43:37

Thanks...that's what I asked earlier and I don't think anyone heard me !
Josh - Wed 3 Dec 2003 15:56:33

I'll see you there! I'm playing between 10pm and 1am so feel free to come and say hi to a displaced Sydney boy in Melbourne. My partner and I are probably going to stick around and boggie till the wee hours of the morning with Mr Leal and a few other Sydney siders heading south for NYE.
JK - Wed 3 Dec 2003 18:01:31

Ruby, I don't want to sound cynical - and I salute you for taking the time to respond - but you've got to be making a profit out of this otherwise you wouldn't be able to keep doing it - and I don't think anyone with half a brain could fail to understand why you need to make a profit. So....when you say you " lose a lot of money on each party," are you actually saying that you're not making the amount of profit that you'd like to make - or what..exactly?
- Wed 3 Dec 2003 18:28:35

I hear Nat will guest spot at Ken's on Sunday 28th December.
- Wed 3 Dec 2003 22:05:26

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YAY !!!! - Wed 3 Dec 2003 22:42:32

I'm starting a night soon in the inner West in a nice cosy venue. Pretty good sound and in a good location. It'll be on the solid house side of things, funky with some hands in the air thrown into the mix. Nothing too heavy (it is a school night after all) but it'll run to 2-3 am if the public lets me!

Thoughts anyone?

Oh, for good measure there will be a gold coin donation on the door for local charities. And every once in a while I'll have a 'big' name Oxford St DJ play for a couple of hours to mix things up.

You think?
- Wed 3 Dec 2003 23:16:45

I take that as a sign that this event has sold out !!

Anyone can confirm that ??
Luke - Wed 3 Dec 2003 23:26:44

"Don't You Want Me" - Felix (1992)
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Pinkboard Jukebox - Thu 4 Dec 2003 00:06:21

Sorry Ruby, but I really can't believe that you "lose a lot of money on each party". I don't want to cause you grief as I enjoy your parties, but can you really expect us to believe that you would continue to hold parties so frequently if they are losing you so much money? If you said you broke even I might have believed you. Maybe your sense of 'a lot of money' is different from mine!
sceptical punter - Thu 4 Dec 2003 01:14:19

Anyone can confirm that ??
Luke - Wed 3 Dec 2003 23:26:44

I spoke to one of the promoters last saturday and he told me that each venue had just a handful of tickets left. So, I reckon it is possible that it is sold out.
Josh - Thu 4 Dec 2003 08:45:23

Maybe the Shift should hold a fundraiser to fix the A/C ........
- Thu 4 Dec 2003 08:47:01

lol ! who ? he writes it like a This Is Your Life episode.
where's DJ Kimchi when we need him ? I smell something fishy
Mr Panties - Thu 4 Dec 2003 09:47:50
This is the opinion of the poster.

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RAH !!! - Thu 4 Dec 2003 10:04:04

I prefer to spend my Thursdays at Arq and sometimes Stonewall
Thursdays are good days - Thu 4 Dec 2003 10:44:15

Yeh! More places to go that are off the tragic oxford street strip. Half of us live in the inner west so about time we could go out near home.

Keep us infomed as, even thought it is a school night, I'm interested!
Kitten - Thu 4 Dec 2003 13:10:51

Hey why don’t you call Ruby yourself and ask him....?! - Details on ruby website www.rubydance.com.au I know ruby would be more than willing to discuss the simple fact that this party costs more to put on and so he is going to charge more for it. Need clarification of that fact? Pick up the phone….

I am amused to find that people have posted comments like “Party reeks of greed” ect…it is a business not a congregation! He has the right to make as much or as little money as he wants to … or can!

The Department of Fair-trading will be happy to highlight the fact that you can charge as much for a product as you like within the constraints of the law. It will also affirm that you don’t have to purchase a product if you don’t want to! Go to another party….!

Lastly the party is almost half sold out….a testament to the fact that there is a group of people out there that think it’s worth it!

Oh and to the people that go “I wouldn’t pay that to go to the shift”…YOU ALREADY DO….. stay at the shift and have two drinks an hour for 8 hours – 2 x $5.50 x 8 hours = $88. (The price of the ticket).
Over this board - Thu 4 Dec 2003 13:42:09

Any, anyway, it wouldn't be the first party in Sydney to run regularly at a loss, now would it?
- Thu 4 Dec 2003 13:55:01

Speaking of which, a joke:
There's a new car radio on the market. When you say ROCK it plays rock music. When you say JAZZ it plays jazz music. And when you children run in front of your car and you say "F****** KIDS".........

.......... it plays Michael Jackson.

Boom tish.........;o)
Patrick - Thu 4 Dec 2003 14:41:42

Venue Hire - 6000

Advertising Newspapers - $5500

Graphic Design - $1200

Additional Lasers (full colour and green) $4500

Additional Sound Equipment - $3000

Theaming and stuff - $5000

Labour and associated costs - $3000

Ice blocks to give away - $400

Transport and Other - $1000

Total $29600

Having the time of your life with your friends on the dance floor!!

Pricless

For everything else there is pinkboard
- Thu 4 Dec 2003 15:24:18

actually it seems Ruby just did a cut and paste from his RP10 - Ruby though the looking glass, featuring THE SPACE BROTHERS email newsletter that he sends out to those on the Ruby Dance mail list .. which is sort of half information, half promotion ... but it obviously hasn't silenced all his detractors :-(
some guys really put the "itch" in bitch - Thu 4 Dec 2003 16:06:17

Please criticise the music if you will, but leave his $ commect alone, he has LOST money at every one because his production is so enormously over the top. Give the man a kiss on the cheek (you pick which one) next time you see him if you are a RUBY party fan, as he and the crew spend their own money to ensure you have a wild night, and to make sure that the kind of music they love is packaged in possibly its ultimate form.

I have never liked Frisky or RUBY parties (cause laser showers and that kind of trance aint my thing) but I think RUBY himself is AAAce and know he is not lying about the above $ statement.

Pardon the long-windedness of this post

ps - to the Thursday night maker, suggest you find another night or try a party once a month unless your budgets are really modest because thursdays include stonewall, the new venue at newtown, imperial, arq, as well as other bars etc, and i think you might have tough odds. like the gold coin idea, but maybe just be really budget conscious as less people may come than you expect...
seriously - Thu 4 Dec 2003 16:19:33

With respect,

NOBODY is criticising Ruby - quite the opposite. Everybody wants him to continue and are concerned that he is losing money because that means the end of Ruby parties sooner or later, right?

I have never been but my friends absolutely love 'em so I want to see for myself even though trance is not my passion
- Thu 4 Dec 2003 17:43:18

People go to work to earn a wage, so why can ruby not

As for the people who complain and winch get a life, and enjoy life instead of looking faults in others.

Happy person
- Thu 4 Dec 2003 22:45:30

For those that can afford it and are prepared to pay the money (as I am), we're guaranteed a party with fantastic music, mind-blowing visuals and a seriously up-for-it crowd.

So... leave Ruby alone. He's one of the nicest dj's on the scene and deserves better irrespective of whether you like his parties or not.
Trance Addict - Thu 4 Dec 2003 22:53:52

"Pride" - Johnna (1996)
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Pinkboard Jukebox - Fri 5 Dec 2003 00:17:37

I did the sound on Frisky parties from August 1998 until their finish. Ruby (aka Gordon) was a regular from around late 1999 (I think) who loved the music and had his position about 3 metres just off centre on the main dance floor. Ruby came to my notice as he passed on compliments regarding the sound via the Australian distributor of EAW speaker cabinets, used for front and rear fill for the Frisky parties. It seemed a good time to make contact and we became both professionally and personally close.

Gordon is a technical designer and specifies components of all 3 main doctrines (lights, audio and audio-visual) to a very varied mainly corporate client base. He has been associated with greats like Roger Barrett (who was one of the best theatre lighting designers in the world) for over 30 years. He has extremely strong relationships with all major suppliers of equipment in this country.

Ruby, after Frisky passed into our fond memories, saw an enormous hole in our party scene, and filled it, with his unique style of music and, like Jo Jo before him (and people like Craig & Kevin with Ice), knew that to produce great parties you need to provide the technical standards that we had come to expect. More recently, Andy & Brett have done similarly with Toybox. Different concepts but with the same eye for detail and technical standard.

It really is as simple as that. For all of us in the production industry, it is impossible to do what we do well unless we had/have promoters of the ilk of Jo Jo, Kevin & Craig, Ruby, Andy & Brett etc., who never compromise quality for the sake of a few dollars. Just reflect on parties where it has been obvious corners were cut…..

Without our promoters, we would all be spending a lot more time bitching about what we don’t have, not what we do…..

Have a great summer season of partying everyone.
Damon Hartley - Fri 5 Dec 2003 08:17:21

Ruby puts on an amazing dance party for the love of MUSIC, not the love of money.
I for one am honored to have worked and be working with such a genuine and passionate person.

Gordon Richmond, aka Ruby, rocks!
Can we drop it now?
neal "this should secure me more work" crawford - Fri 5 Dec 2003 11:18:25

Ahh yes, I can almost see the music
thank you for that trip - Fri 5 Dec 2003 11:43:39

I've been to a couple of Ruby parties - not as many as I'd like, but I seem to miss out on tix most times, but I've had nothing but great memories of the parties and darl, you should start making yourself a little cash from it !
Josh - Fri 5 Dec 2003 13:46:15

maybe the shift's power supply needs some e-hancement? ;-)
more power to the punters - Fri 5 Dec 2003 16:15:27

Its gonna be a great night !!
- Fri 5 Dec 2003 17:14:10

they will also be featuring the 'vocalist' that will apear at ruby party
Con - Fri 5 Dec 2003 17:21:08

"A Deeper Love" - Aretha Frankin (1993)
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Pinkboard Jukebox - Sat 6 Dec 2003 03:11:44

Does anyone know what they will do ?

Last year the DJ's where up on the stage area, it would be great if they could maybe move them onto the side balconies and have the stage area for dancing ?
Does anyone know ? - Sat 6 Dec 2003 08:22:58

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Its a gay gay gay gay gay gay gay gay gay world - Sat 6 Dec 2003 10:31:33

Are you going to G.A.Y Panther ?
more gayness - Sat 6 Dec 2003 15:50:59

http://news.com.au/common/story_page/0,4057,8078721%255E421,00.html
Very Sad :o( - Sat 6 Dec 2003 19:25:31

"Outlaw" - Olive (1997)
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Pinkboard Jukebox - Posting todays song early cause I'm off to G.A.Y now :o) - Sat 6 Dec 2003 22:52:17

Xane

Bear admirer and hairy arse lover
- Sun 7 Dec 2003 13:25:41

Xane
- Sun 7 Dec 2003 13:33:07
This message contains a generalisation.

I like Sveta's music but she changes styles too quickly and too often but the crowd didn't mind at all. Kelly Lynch is one of *my favorite* female DJ's and she didn't let me down. But the crowd was too small; the girls deserve more of an audience so I encourage you, male or female, to support them. (thanks for the tunes, Kelly)

I also visited the Taxi club to see DJ Shanobear and I enjoyed what I heard even though the crowd wasn't very excitable. I didn't say hello but I will next time. He's not hard to miss, so don't.
- Sun 7 Dec 2003 14:17:25

Who are the DJ's downstairs?
- Sun 7 Dec 2003 17:22:01

Xane - what are you on about ?
Please explain your comments - what are you really trying to say here?
And *what* did members of the female gender do at Sleaze that was *so* offensive (to you) ?
Bgrrl - Mon 8 Dec 2003 02:47:00

The venue was packed out until after 6am.

I think this was the best party the GAY team have thrown to date in my opinion.

Thank you Johan, Chelsea, Amelia an Trudy !
Josh - Mon 8 Dec 2003 09:54:53

What am I really trying to say?? Not trying Bgrrl... I'm really saying it..! read and understand. Our community is facing significant difficulties in sustaining business viability, finding adequate venues that we (NMG and others) can afford and keeping the GLBT party community alive and well. The City Live venue suffers from a small dance floor, steps, corners, pockets, gets claustrophibic and over crowded. The Lesbians selfish stakeout of the entire spacious upstairs while the lowly masses struggled below was shamefull.

Does this separatism/exclusion benefit our community...?

Xane
- Mon 8 Dec 2003 10:20:04

Does anyone know if the Dome will ever come available again...? The outside space and verandah are just excellent.

Xane
- Mon 8 Dec 2003 10:31:12

I thought it was the Board/Party Committee that took the decision to have a girl-centred space - as they have for years? I certainly didn't think it was about 'exclusionary dykes taking over'

Xane, you can argue the case against gender-specific spaces at Mardi Gras/Sleaze - God knows, there's only been about 10 million words on the subject over the years - but I don't think you can fairly blame 'dykes on the night', for excluding you.
- Mon 8 Dec 2003 11:01:22

We women don't complain about bad male behaviour at dance parties, so why slag us off?
bored. Already. - Mon 8 Dec 2003 11:41:57

If what you're saying is that coalitionism is the best way forward and not segregation, then I agree with you. Organisations like Pride and Leather Pride (I'm not 100% sure about LP) are good examples of events where that segregation does not happen. ACON ran a separate sex space at their last party but there was a space for men-only as well so there were not so many complaints.

Like you I did not support NMG having a separate space. I think it was the result of some very out of date thinking around this that came from the female leadership at the time. Unfortunately it does not appear that this thinking is going to leave at any time soon. So what is needed is reasonable and intelligent debate around this. Unfortunately your comments seem to be littered with misogynistic elements which is not conducive to good discussion.
- Mon 8 Dec 2003 12:19:41

There is no totally satisfactory answer to this but the way Queer Nation handled the issue is worth mentioning - which was to have a female-only zone earlier in the night and then everyone comes together towards the end.

There, problem solved! Even though I felt rejected [true] when turned away at City Live but I can live with it.
Deep cover - Mon 8 Dec 2003 12:36:45

Does this separatism/exclusion benefit our community...?

Xane - Mon 8 Dec 2003 10:20:04
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Suggesting alternative venues... yes, not easy. That's why I mentioned innovation and imagination. Horden and RHI will always be the best. Maybe if Pride and NMG organised smaller parties, like with just Gay people, they wouldn't need City Live.
Does anyone know if the Dome will ever come available again...? The outside space and verandah are just excellent.

Xane - Mon 8 Dec 2003 10:31:12

Xane, you only appear to "read and understand" when it suits yourself.
Your comments on this board and others are usually generalistic and incendiary.
You say 'we' in relation to NMG - if you are part of NMG then you would know the the NMG organisers of Sleaze 2003 decided to make upstairs of City Live - female only - a move not necessarily appreciated by female attendees and questioned by some on the night.
Are you a party promoter? Have you ever put the hard slog in to try to book a venue, raise the cash to pay for the lighting, sound, DJs etc?
You criticise without offering viable or constructive alternatibves and you do not appear to pay attention to what is said.
FYI - The Dome venue at the Fox complex will *not* be offered as a dance hall venue in the future. The Byron Kennedy Hall is heritage listed and is to be looked after more carefully than in the past.
again
No More Dome
Bgrrl - who has worked on various events and can see the difficulties ahead, it's not the same as it was, geddit! - Mon 8 Dec 2003 13:51:50

Leather Pride discourages segregation at their events and encourages all to party together.
I personally think that grrls will find their own space and don't need an area kept aside for them.
Leather Pride member (female) - Mon 8 Dec 2003 13:58:45

....although the same thing can be said for oestrogen-charged heterosexual women grabbing gay men in inappropiate place at parties. Maybe this is a lesson that could be learned by NMG and the like to make community parties for the community only and not to open them up to the heterosexual contingent as well.

Please don't presume that is it only grrls that get molested at parties, because it isn't.
Josh - Mon 8 Dec 2003 14:49:11

Bgrrl - Mon 8 Dec 2003 13:51:50

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This above statement is incorrect, VERY incorrect.

NMG are currently in negotiation with Fox about the future use of Dome. The ongoing repairs of the venue that we all know about are within weeks of being completed. One this occurs the venue might be again offered as a space for future parties however the deal is not yet signed and delivered. There is alot of negotiation and wheeling and dealing to be done for Dome to become available again however there is a VERY good chance that it WILL happen in time for Mardi Gras in March 2004. Stay tuned.
In the know. - Mon 8 Dec 2003 16:08:28
Pinkboard is unable to verify this statement.

don't forget, if it were not for your mothers (the female race) you boys would not be here on this earth.

get over it and lets just party together.
just a girl - Mon 8 Dec 2003 16:33:55

Thanks for the kind words. Glad you enjoyed your trip to the Taxi club. Definately come and say hi next time....

re-friendofbears - Mon 8 Dec 2003 02:41:20
the underwear party for Bears at MG should be huge fun. It's the wednesday before the MG party upstairs at the Midnight Shift. I'll be kicking off the night before Seymour Butts takes over and he's going to be followed by Marc Alsop. Can't wait to play at that and then have some fun after my set is finished.
DJ Shanobear - Mon 8 Dec 2003 17:36:35

Pullease- that attitude is so 1982. Like lesbians don't have a bag full of T in them too... and the ones that don't make generalised comments as above- very victimish of you.

Give me straight events where men aren't wanting an absence of women and women aren't wanting an absence of men. Funnily enough, seems there's more loathing of the opposite sex on here than there ever will be at str8 parties.
2STR82BQueer - Mon 8 Dec 2003 18:47:13

Party for all...........like a previous poster said, there are about 10 million
words on this subject and like political/sexual whatever correctness, we will
end up with Halls for Females only, Males only , Transexuals only, Bisexuals
only , Transgengers only, Transvestites only, Bears only , Twinks only and on
and on it fvcking well goes.

We already have boy bars / girl bars or boys nights or girls nights at the various clubs.

NMG and Sleaze and in my opinion NYE and the June longweekend parties is a time
for us to celebrate together.

Xane - the last time I went to a Lesbian bar I was verbally abused at the door.
I have also been verbally abused by straights, Twinks, Queens, the occassional
acid tongued Drag Queen, even by other gay guys ( I'm talking about over the
last 20 years here, it does not happen often but it has happened ) but it does
not stop me going back nor turn me off those people.
Its an old story but we strived to be accepted by the straight world but seems
we are just as good at being divisional as the rest of the world and actually I think we are worse.

One thing I do agree with Xane - City Live is a shit venue because dance floor
is way too small.
We have not made up a minds where to go for NYE. Some posters have asked if
anyone knows what Pride is doing to extend the dance floor in City Live but no
reply so far so still holding off.
Just lighten up please - Mon 8 Dec 2003 19:59:56

In the know - you know do you? Really? Dome available as what? a food court? a chill-out? coat-check? Teasers such as these are frustrating and divisive, not a method of creating excitement or a way to sell tickets.
It will not be a Dance Hall again and that is one one thing that everyone wants. It's a real shame but things do change - don't they?
City Live should become a supermarket, "the Byron Kennedy Hall is a popular space for banquets, cocktail parties, product launches, theme parties and special events" see http://www.foxstudios.com.au/venues/byron.asp.
Tell us when Fox intend to sell off the Studios and we will all have to move on.
You reckon you know - Mon 8 Dec 2003 22:26:05
Pinkboard is unable to verify this statement.

It's going to cost him money because I am not alone in my decision to not go back upstairs until they get it right.

a possible solution? - We need another another player in our world *->> A Climate Control guy <<-* up there with the DJ and Lighting tech :}}
cool - Tue 9 Dec 2003 07:33:49

Hmmm I think Pride NYE is worth a look this year.
- Tue 9 Dec 2003 08:31:24

G.A.Y was great but it was simply too hot for me, I found the heat totally overwhelming. Otherwise fantastic music and an up, friendly and good looking crowd. Please Shift - fix the aircon!!!
- Mon 8 Dec 2003 20:23:46

AGree re Shift and the aircon.... it was unbearable at one point, several people I know left because it was just too hot. It also surely has to be dangerous given what many people are consuming........
- Tue 9 Dec 2003 00:16:53

Has anyone told the licensee about the shift's A/C problems? I'm tempted!!!
It's going to cost him money because I am not alone in my decision to not go back upstairs until they get it right.

a possible solution? - We need another another player in our world *->> A Climate Control guy <<-* up there with the DJ and Lighting tech :}}
cool - Tue 9 Dec 2003 07:33:49

How right you all are! From where I was in the DJ box, it was unbearable. I actually have a sweat rash in my armpits (Hello! NOT PRETTY!). I can only imagine how revoltingly hot it would have been dancing in the middle of the packed dancefloor when I was so uncomfortable pretty much standing still in the spaceous DJ box.

This is an ongoing problem at the Shift. Surely, with the club's increasing popularity as a weekly venue (as well as the number of successful parties such as GAY and Ruby that are being held there fairly regularly) they can afford to put in a new aircon system. I do not know for sure, but I have heard that they have had it fixed a couple of times in the past. Well, it may be time to bite the bullet and fork out the money for a new system. Does the Shift not make enough revenue to enable them to put some money back into taking care of the community that keeps coming back to it and ensuring it's doors stay open?

My boyfriend was the licensee of the Shift for 5 years, so I sympathise with the current licensee, Paul Finnigan, but this is one serious issue that really needs to be attended to. Stop dilly dallying and just put in a brand spanking new system.
JK - Tue 9 Dec 2003 09:33:05

Let's hope Paul is a Pinkboarder!
Andrew - Tue 9 Dec 2003 12:05:03

I personally LOVE the midnight shift and its always been my prefered venue to party at. This venue didnt have the heating problems it now has prior to its renovations a few years ago so my question to the current management is "What has gone wrong" ?

Complaining on pinkboard about this situation will more than likely get NOTHING done.

I suggest we ALL take some real affirmative action by doing one of the following things -

1. Lodge a complaint with the local government (Oxford Street Darlinghurst is covered by Sydney City Council). Call their Safety, Health and Compliance department on (02) 92467632 and speak to team leader Trudi Coutts. I have already lodged my complaint, I urge others to follow my lead.

2. Contact the office of the relavent State Government member, Clover Moore. Her office number is (02) 93603053

3. Lodge a complaint with the office of occupational,health & safety consumer and business services team - You can call them on (02) 43215159

4. Call and complain to the NSW Police Assistance Line on 131444. This line is open 24 hours a day. If you feel the Shift is too hot call them at that time and the Police will be sent during the event in progress. If they feel its a dangerous health issue they'll shut the place down for the night.

If you want change you need to complain to people who can get things done. Bitching on pinkboard will achieve nothing. Take a stance and ring one of the above numbers NOW.
This has been a community service announcement - Tue 9 Dec 2003 12:22:14

How refreshing! I think this sentiment also applies to the armchair critics who do nothing but hurl complaints at community orgs. Join a committee, nominate for the Board, write the SSO etc etc.
- Tue 9 Dec 2003 12:39:38

You left out the most crucial point of contact - the licensee. He should be the first port of call before bureaucrats, pollies, police whoever.
- Tue 9 Dec 2003 12:51:18

The licencee has a right to be told first!

You cannot be serious - that is far too aggressive for the first move
protocol and manners - Tue 9 Dec 2003 12:53:24

I have been going to the Shift for 15 years and never have a problem with the airconditioning.

May I suggest you either stay home or bring your own portable breathing system. I want to go to dirty, sleazy hot night clubs. Also, if you have a problem with a club, contact the manager during the afternoon on a weekday and discuss your concerns like an adult.
kitten - Tue 9 Dec 2003 13:07:04

You have got to be JOKING !!! The licensee is FULLY aware of the problem. He has been told time and time again. NOTHING gets done. Time to talk to somebody else who WILL get something done.
Lets get serious for a change - Tue 9 Dec 2003 13:20:40
Pinkboard is unable to verify this statement.

No, not joking, just practical!

Everyone seems only to quick to boycott Arq for whatever reason so voting with your feet (ie, Dancing somewhere else - like Arq) will get the message across even though the A/C will seem to be working due to reduced load.

I'm heading back to Arq, their A/C works well.

It's the Operator's venue, not ours
Dr Maddox - Tue 9 Dec 2003 14:10:07

OK, so you don't have a fast metabolism, nor sweat glands but it IS a real problem.
NO2 in my air tank, please - Tue 9 Dec 2003 14:27:24

"You Lift Me Up" - Rebekah Ryan (1995)
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Pinkboard Jukebox - Tue 9 Dec 2003 15:10:02

Voice your disapproval to

midnightshift@froggy.com.au
- Tue 9 Dec 2003 15:25:34

<sarcasm>

thankyou for telling me what i mean .. where we would be without our thought police? oh you silly boy ... trust me, if that is what i meant then i would have said it ... empathically :-)

but i must admit that if there is a "sex space" at every party/venue then that would be great .. not because i have any desire to hangout in a "sex space" myself, but at least it might decrease the length of the queues in the toilets as hopefully there would be less toilet sex going on .. maybe your idea could be expanded to a "doing-a-line space", a "doing-a-hit space" blah blah blah as well .. imagine all the cubicles that would be freed up for people who just wanna go to that toilet? ;-)

when i choose to go to a dance party that is what i want to do .. dance, enjoy the music and lighting production etc .. (caution: major generalisations are following) ... things i don't want to do include: not have sex; not watch others having sex; not get abused; not be constantly bumped/jossled/whacked by handbags/jabbed in the ribs or lower regions/have breasts constantly lunged at me; not risk breaking limbs by tripping on discarded water bottles on the dancefloor; not have to constantly temper my enjoyment by all that is covered in political correctness 101 ... blah blah blah ;-) i think that covers most of it ... lol

i'm all for women's only spaces, str8's only spaces, sex only spaces, chill out only spaces, gawd i hate this world and wanna be on my own spaces ... so long as that also means that there are men only spaces for dancing .. fair's fair isn't it or are some of us more equal than others in this new era of equality?

</sarcasm>
the obverse view in digital widescreen - Tue 9 Dec 2003 15:41:51

GAY Pics !!
- Tue 9 Dec 2003 16:04:39

get over it and lets just party together.
just a girl - Mon 8 Dec 2003 16:33:55 "

Who said anything about being afraid? It's more a personal case of just not being interested. And despite all the efforts of the femnazis, it still takes sperm & an egg to at least conceive a child at present. I'm not sure it advances the "girl" cause to portray women as incubation vessels.
- Tue 9 Dec 2003 16:18:41

I've been to lots of both parties and the decor and advertising is the same. Crowds are less for the straight nights, so they must be creaming it big time from us poor poofs and dykes.

Can whoever contacts the Shift re the aircon also contact Emma at Home and ask her what the deal is there? And report back on this discriminating practise?

JK, care to comment on this, since it must piss you off?
- Tue 9 Dec 2003 16:43:40

I'll have my last word on separate spaces by adding that if NMG continue to set aside 50% of a venue cost and 50% of the venue real estate for one small group of people (like 100-150) out of 2000 then they're doomed. It makes very poor business sense.

Just in general... I express my opinion's here, stir it up a bit to get some debate going. I don't think it's a condition of participating here to supply answers or solutions, these generally arise from debate. I'm not mysoginist, I may generalise a bit, I may have selective listening/reading... yadda yadda. But I've been on the gay party scene for over 20 years, I've done my contribution stint at Mardi Gras, I've seen a lot of change, I've lived the good old days of Mardi Gras parties in the 80s... I like to have my say!

Xane
- Tue 9 Dec 2003 18:03:16

Oh god...! Is that why my boyfriend can't get pregnant?

Xane
- Tue 9 Dec 2003 18:21:22

Ms Bored Already... Oh my, so crass. But what do you expect? Get between a man and more dick and you're asking for trouble...!

Xane
- Tue 9 Dec 2003 18:27:38

On the contrary, I think QN is excellent value for money. For a boutique party, $45 is extremely cheap. Emma and the rest of the gang at HOME are committed to giving a reasonably priced party to the GLBT community and they endeavour to put as much back into the party as they receive.

The straight scene does and always has paid its DJ's much better than the gay scene, however, I am extremely comfortable with my fee arrangements with QN. And to add to this, Emma & Co. offer more than just money to the DJ's - they look after us in an exceptional manner. Ask any DJ involved and I think you will find 90% (if not 100%) of them will not be able to fault QN's handling of its DJ's.

As for the price difference between QN and a normal night at home, you can't possibly expect a club to survive if they had a door charge of $45 on a regular night. Who would pay that for a normal Saturday night out, regardless of the fact that there might be international DJ's there regularly. Likewise, you couldn't really expect them to charge any less for QN.

I appreciate your reasoning, but I'm sorry that I have to disagree. You asked for my comments and there you have it.

As for the Shift's aircon - I think going straight to council as a first step etc is a little harsh. I for one wouldn't want the Shift hit with a hefty fine that may jeopardise the club and its operations. I think a few emails to the club to really bring people's dissatisfaction with the problem to their attention would suffice. I am sure they are aware of the problem, but if people haven't actually complained about it, how are they to know that the punters aren't enjoying the heat? I intend to call the licensee myself tomorrow to discuss the issue.

Finally, an earlier poster asked me where they might buy one of those brand spanking new aircon systems. Sweetpea, I don't work in that field so I can't answer your question, but if you pick up a phone book or look on the net, I'm sure you will find a number of aircon companies that operate in Australia.
JK - Tue 9 Dec 2003 19:39:41

88 Days to Mardi Gras (two fat ladies all round) :P

88 Days to Mardi Gras (two fat ladies all round) :P

88 Days to Mardi Gras (two fat ladies all round) :P

88 Days to Mardi Gras (two fat ladies all round) :P
countdownboy - Tue 9 Dec 2003 21:13:14

I'm sure you will find a number of aircon companies that operate in Australia.
JK - Tue 9 Dec 2003 19:39:41

JK - think u missed the subtle humour - brand new spanking systems - perhaps you're still suffering heat stress? LOL
- Tue 9 Dec 2003 21:26:33

Into the Hollywood Groove - Madonna feat. Missy Elliot
I begin to Spin - Dannii Minogue
Lost Without You - Delta Goodrem
Sleeping satellite - Aurora
In the Evening 2004 - Sheryl Lee Ralph
Miss Independent - Kelly Clarkson
Stronger - Sugababes
In Your Eyes - Kylie Minogue
Kids in America - Kim Wilde
I Turn to You - Mel C
Rooms on Fire - Eutopia
I'm Your Man - Shane Richie
Nothing in the World - Mozaic
Xanadu - Olivia Newton John
The Mexican (Dance Dance) - Thalia
I Learned From the Best - Whitney Houston
Mr Lonely - Deborah Cox
JK - Tue 9 Dec 2003 22:39:07

"Let Me Show You" - K-Klass (1993)
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Pinkboard Jukebox - Wed 10 Dec 2003 00:16:49

After this day, all requests will be removed to make way for new enries.

In the meantime, thanks for the great feedback and keep posting those requests!
Justin Scott (www.djjustinscott.com) - Wed 10 Dec 2003 08:25:24

In response to why straight clubs pay better than gay clubs - I am not sure the exact reasons why, but this has always been the case. My guess is that straight clubs understand how expensive it is to be a DJ. It costs a fortune to stay up to date with music. The gay scene offers terrible renumeration. At one of my weekly residencies at a straight club, I get $25 an hour more than I do at my best paying weekly residency at a gay club.

You hinted on the fact that maybe gay venues make less money on the bar. I think this could also be a small part of it. And, I hate to say it, but the straight crowd is more loyal and more consistent. I am speaking very generally here, but straight clubs tend to be consistently busy, with crowds that frequent them regularly. In the gay scene, punters are very flighty and venues tend to have periods of great success and then periods of quieter times. Like I said, that is a complete generalisation, but it's what it looks like from where I stand.
JK - Wed 10 Dec 2003 09:03:25

Sounds like you're trying to steal JK's thunder there. Not nice.
- Wed 10 Dec 2003 11:10:07

I don't think that's what he's doing. This is not the JK wall.
- Wed 10 Dec 2003 11:54:47

What's a life compared to their profits?
"Give him and icy pole, he'll be alright" - Wed 10 Dec 2003 12:10:25

What's a life compared to their profits?"

What responsibility should individuals take for the effects of their "mood-enhancing," I wonder? As far as I know, no licensee is forcing people to consume them....and some people quite like the hot 'n sweaty Phoenix atmosphere.
- Wed 10 Dec 2003 16:25:23

I would never try to either compete with JK or steal his thunder, JK's been at this game a lot longer than I have and he's a DJ I respect immensley. I just made a general comment because I was genuinely surprised that our sets were so similar, no self promotion or malice intended.

Seems like every time I post here lately someone jumps down my throat but thanks to JK and to Wed 10 Dec 2003 11:54:47 for taking the comments the way they were intended.
Shanobear - Wed 10 Dec 2003 16:37:30

How convenient !
- Wed 10 Dec 2003 16:51:47

No love. It's usually more a case of one or two people deliberately taking comments the wrong way - and a few more people pointing out that they have - while most readers just think "how could you get THAT out of what Shanobear said?" and move on. Keep smilin' :)
- Wed 10 Dec 2003 17:26:24

Thanks for that. Good to know there are some positive people out there somewhere.
Shanobear - Wed 10 Dec 2003 18:47:42

..of course there are Shanobear - we love you almost as much as we love JK !
Josh - Wed 10 Dec 2003 21:12:08

I don't see your comments as mysoginistic. Not all queers want to hang out with gay men or lesbians :) I never got the faghag thing- so many dykes think it's so fashionable to hang out with gay men. I wouldn't hang out with someone because of their sexuality. I don't see why lesbians want so desperately to spend time at parties where they are excluded. Where's the fun in that?
Its All Good - Wed 10 Dec 2003 21:26:41

Hey Shanobear...

No matter what people post here regarding your apparent "self promotion" just ignore it mate. It's pathetic when people get on their high & mighty horse, fully armoured and striking at the first available opportunity at another DJ, and, if you notice, these people choose to remain annonymous. No points for guessing why.

You are by far the most honest and down-to-earth DJ that I have had the pleasure to work with. You admit that you have still a long way to go to reach "JK" status (not that you need to, as I'm sure JK would agree), and still learning how to fine tune beat-mixing - Something many up-and-coming DJ's would be afraid to admit.

Keep name-dropping all you like Shanobear, as I can't seem to recall anywhere on this website stating that such an act may be considered as "having ulteria motives"

JK's post has reflected this and validates my comments.

And for the record... I myself, have a similar playlist to JK's. Does that make me an opportunist and someone who is ready to steal someone's "thunder?" Just ask JK.

All I have to say is... Keep up the good work Shanobear, and can't wait to catch you at the Shift around Mardi Gras time. I'll be there with bells on and my dancin's shoes! xxx
JS - Wed 10 Dec 2003 23:03:41

Also just as a general opinion, I feel the downstairs area of the Shift has really lost it's atmosphere with the new section. Sunday nights downstairs used to be my faourite night of the week to go out because it was always packed and always had a great vibe going. However since the new section opened I've hardly seen it get busy and the atmosphere is really dull.
Shanobear - Thu 11 Dec 2003 05:21:20

Personally I do not agree with different areas for different sexualities. NMG and Sleaze are a celebration of what we are/what we have achieved and (personally ) I think we should do it all together. I'm glad Pride and other
similar parties dont do it either.

Boys and girls have their own bars/clubs to go to where they can have it all their own way ie girls only/boys only/bears only/twinks area.

Once one sexuality gets their space, it opens up a can of worms for others to
demand their space as well.

For those 3 or 4 weekends a year couldn't we show how we " tolerate " each
other.

I could just imagine the screaming/demonstrations if a straight party decided
to have a poof and dyke hall to separate them from the straight halls.
Or Catholic only halls and Muslim only halls and on and on and on and on we could go.
So which party are Pinkboarders going to ? I would love mobile home but friends want Pride - Thu 11 Dec 2003 10:05:00

Oh and the gay men I hang out with are my friends, not because you think it is fashionable.

Poor Xane blaming every lesbian in Sydney because he was knocked back by a NMG directed doorbitch. That opened the door for a free for all of women bashing including references to "feminazis". That's not discussion!

Actually we had a bloke in tow with us at Sleaze and it was inconvenient that he couldn't come upstairs with us, but it wasn't the heat death of the universe. I agree that Big Gay Dance Parties should be mixed spaces, and people can find and make their own spaces just by who you're hanging out with.

So be reminded that just because some events are gender seperate (Manacle on a weeknight, anyone?), not everyone of that gender agrees or supports that policy by default.
Evil Twin - Thu 11 Dec 2003 11:21:44

Indulgence for me !
Josh - Thu 11 Dec 2003 11:42:41

Off to Pride with group of friends. Reasonable price, profits to community, great DJ's and have ALWAYS loved the Pride atmosphere.

Got our tix yesterday. See you there. If not, happy NY to you!
Off to Pride - Thu 11 Dec 2003 12:13:36

A community that has fought so hard not to be discriminated against for 30+ years is actually having discussions regarding how to discriminate.

It is up to you, the punter, to manage your spaces in a mature and tolerant fashion. If that fails, 40 gay men surrounding a few dickhead straight girls or 40 lesbians surrounding a few dickhead straight men should do the trick. Remember, 95% of our straight friends that come to our parties are 100% behind our causes (that's why they are there). Given that we would have, if you're lucky, a 1-2% dickhead factor - I'm sure we can handle this just fine.

Stop expecting your organisations and/or venues to hold your hand all the time. We got to 2003 by being strong and dominant within our causes. Show some balls and stop the bloody moaning.

How far we have come ...... not!
This is the opinion of the poster - Thu 11 Dec 2003 12:24:09

Gay friends are only fashionable if they're famous.
Love this board. Love generalisations. Love this 'community'. Is there still such a thing? - Thu 11 Dec 2003 12:43:13

Surprise Surprise - No reply !
Sean Cook - Thu 11 Dec 2003 13:28:51

I haven't heard anything yet either....although the last time I contacted them via email about something, it did take about 4 days for them to respond.

Bored - Thu 11 Dec 2003 12:49:08

Maybe the trend setting community we once had has burned itself out (or melted if you did it at the Midnight Shift).....??
Josh - Thu 11 Dec 2003 14:16:47

You work in town. I work at night. That gives us six until seven to work this out.
- Thu 11 Dec 2003 15:17:34

On the other hand, they might have a meat raffle, mightn't they?
boys make the best pets - Thu 11 Dec 2003 15:21:38

I totally agree with you, but to defend myself, I wasn't making a negative comment or whinging about the whingers, I was merely posing a question with my tongue pressed firmly into my cheek.....(if anybody knows how to make one of those with the characters on a keyboard can they let me know so that I can use it in the future....)
Josh - Thu 11 Dec 2003 15:42:57

josh, i'm sure at least some of the guys would rather something else pressed firmly into your cheeks ;-)

</humour>
Ho To Music n Lights - Thu 11 Dec 2003 16:33:03

Too late now if you haven't got tix yet but you should be going to Field Day on NYD. Skip all the same same parties and have attitude-free fun in a casual environment. And good music, not camp top 40 jukebox music. If you want to go to Mobile home there's no way you can go to Pride!!

I know lots of gay boys off to Mobile home. Go. You'll find them.
- Thu 11 Dec 2003 16:36:19

How sweetly philanthropic of you! I really hope those queens realise how lucky they are to be favoured with your friendship hon! Bless your heart.
- Thu 11 Dec 2003 16:38:02

I have seen the advertising and have not been able to get a response from anybody - has it been cancelled?
- Thu 11 Dec 2003 18:11:10

! gasp !
Mr Panties - Thu 11 Dec 2003 18:15:51

I think the point is- who cares? People can have their separate spaces. If guys want to hang out together by themselves, fine. If chicks want to hang out by themselves, fine. Not everyone of any gender will agree on everything. Go to places you feel comfortable in, and if your tits or cock aren't wanted there, go somewhere else.
Over It - Thu 11 Dec 2003 22:58:41

"Perfect Day" - Indigo (1997)
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Pinkboard Jukebox - Fri 12 Dec 2003 09:00:23

Damn..........my friends didnt want to try a new party/venue ( ie MobileHome ) would be too straight so I've been convinced to go to Pride and I dont want to dance in no balcony ! Oh well , will give it a go but next year if they havent teamed up with someone like QN to put a big party on , its MobileHome on my
own.
Damn - Fri 12 Dec 2003 17:21:09

"I Don't Know Anybody Else" - Black Box (1990)
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Pinkboard Jukebox - Sat 13 Dec 2003 00:04:39

WHERE: Fox Studios, Driver Avenue, Moore Park
WHEN: 6 March, 10pm – 10am
PRICE: Early bird adult discount $99 (until 13 Feb)
Early bird NMG Member discount $89 (until 13 Feb)
Early bird concession $60 (until 13 Feb)
Full price $120
NMG Members $110
Concession $75>
Door Sales $140
Transaction fees may apply.

BOOKING: www.ticketek.com.au or 9266 4800
- Sat 13 Dec 2003 21:08:24

Resolution tickets have been secured, thanks Josh.

I checked out girls at Arq on Fridaym again - it was a lot of fun - no trouble at all and that alone is a drawcard. I just love to see the girls on the decks making the boys dance...
merry miss chris - Sun 14 Dec 2003 19:30:03

"Everlasting Love" - Gloria Estefan (1994)
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Pinkboard Jukebox - Mon 15 Dec 2003 09:18:38

Somebodys gonna get a very pleasant early Christmas present !!!

Will Mardi Gras go down the track of having a retro space like so many others have discussed on this board in recent months - I hope so. I do know for a fact that at least 4 DJ's submitted demos based on there being a retro space. How brilliant that will be !!

Anyway, If anyone gets any goss about the DJ meeting yesterday please tell me - I'm hopeful that the selections will be very exciting.
Brian J - Mon 15 Dec 2003 10:08:05

If you like partying in the sunshine, (and who doesn't?), I think this will be the place to be over the summer.
- Mon 15 Dec 2003 15:39:09

how about the 30 or so uniforms responding on foot (plus ambulance) to some incident at the convenience store in Bourke St just along from Manacle?
any GLLOs read PinkBoard that can say what happened there?
Bgrrl - Tue 16 Dec 2003 00:11:37

"The Key , The Secret" - Urban Cookie Collective (1992)
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Pinkboard Jukebox - Tue 16 Dec 2003 01:18:36

The guy that owns the Convenience store on Bourke puts his trash in a back door way of the building that his shop belongs. A man saw the shop owner return from the doorway and then accused the shop owner of stealing the drugs he had just stashed there and proceeded to knock him about. Loads of people watching and shouting at the attacker - people were very reluctant to step in (who can blame them with the use of guns on our streets right now). Police arrived not long after the fight started. Like stated above - about 30 cops and 2 dogs. The dogs sniffed around the doorway but I don't know if anything was found. Straight after this the police and dogs went into the Taxi Club and then they hit Oxford St.
Josh - Tue 16 Dec 2003 09:11:59

I'm looking foward to it as I've been to a few of the other Back 2 Love parties and had a hoot. A night full of music that takes me back to some good times and naughty times I've had over the years out and about. Lot's of cute gals ... and the boys ain't too bad either.

Well I know I'm going back for some good lovin'. How about you?
Big Betty Booty - Tue 16 Dec 2003 10:44:37

Anyhow, its the thought that counts - I will come and give you a wave at XTC - I'll sashay up to the DJ box give a few "wooo wooo's" and make those really useful "pump it up" gestures i'm sure all DJ's lurve! till then
Ms Golightly - Tue 16 Dec 2003 10:46:45

I hope Azure repeat last years process of NOT announcing DJ's up until the night - it kept the posts (all of which were incorrect) churning out on pinkboard for weeks in advance! Too much fun!
Ms Golightly - Tue 16 Dec 2003 10:55:56

When I played it at GAY, I pitched it down slightly. I also sped the previous and following tracks up considerably. It was a tight fight, but I managed to get it in there. See you at XTC.
JK - Tue 16 Dec 2003 13:55:06

When are we getting a wall dedicated to new years eve?
- Tue 16 Dec 2003 18:56:24

its not true, it didn't go down, they are selling well.
I Know - Tue 16 Dec 2003 19:20:02

panther@pinkboard.com.au