Pinkboard Sleaze Ball 97 Graffiti Wall

Welcome to the Pinkboard Sleaze Ball 1997 Graffiti Wall.

Another year has cum and almost gone and the 1997 Sydney Gay and Lesbian Mardi Gras' Sleaze Ball is fast approaching and we will be travelling to the lost city of Atlantis. Because it has been lost for so long no one knows what we will find there, but we will find out on October 4th. Tickets are $70/$35 and are available from the usual outlets for members and invited guests only.

You are welcome to leave your comment, favourite myth, or how you intend to manifest in Atlantis in the form at the bottom of this page. It will be automatically added to the wall.

Sleaze Ball 96 Graffiti Wall
Sleaze Ball 95 Graffiti Wall

Graphics Copyright (C) Sydney Gay & Lesbian Mardi Gras, 1997
Racism, sexism, libel and other offensiveness is not welcome.

Here are a few links that you may find useful in planning for Sleaze:

History of the Golden Ages The Fall of Atlantis Atlantis - An Introduction	Atlantis - The Skeptic's Dictionary Atlantis Links
Sydney Gay and Lesbian Mardi Gras SGLMG - Sleaze Ball 1997

DO@1 (dicks out @ 1am)

I don't mind straight people as long as they act gay in public!!!! Dennis Rodman said it the best. Chowee Darls.
Ricky the Randy - Thu Aug 21 19:58:54 1997

So if the dance floors are themed to Atlantis, what does that make the Hordern loo's? a sub-marine experience?
pussy g - Fri Aug 22 6:20:44 1997

Somebody has mentioned the Spice Girls, please god let it be a lie!
Endora Finn - Mon Aug 25 8:01:50 1997

Endora, I agree. Although one of my most memorable moments of M.G.'97 was when Warren Gluck played the most amazing mix of the Spice Girls about an hour before the end of the party. If you had reconised it you would have though it amazing.
Tue Aug 26 7:47:55 1997

Being set on the idea Of getting to Atlantis, You have discovered of course Only the Ship of Fools is Making the voyage this year, As gales of abnormal force Are predicted, and that you Must therefore be ready to Behave absurdly enough To pass for one of The Boys, At least appearing to love Hard liquor, horseplay and noise. Should storms, as may well happen, Drive you to anchor a week In some old harbour-city Of Ionia, then speak With her witty scholars, men Who have proved there cannot be Such a place as Atlantis: Learn their logic, but notice How their study subtly betrays A simple enormous grief; Thus they shall teach you the ways To doubt that you may believe. If, later you run aground Among the headlands of Thrace Where with torches all night long A naked barbaric race Leaps frenziedly to the sound Of conch and dissonant gong; On that stony savage shore Strip off your clothes and dance, for Unless you are capable Of forgetting completely About Atlantis, you will Never finish your journey. Again, should you come to gay Carthage or Corinth, take part In their endless gaiety; And if in some bar a tart, As she strokes your hair, should say ÔThis is Atlantis, dearie,Õ Listen with attentiveness To her life-story: unless You become acquainted now With each refuge that tries to Counterfeit Atlantis, how Will you recognise the true? Assuming you beach at last Near Atlantis, and begin The terrible trek inland Through squalid woods and frozen Tundras were all are soon lost; If, forsaken then, you stand, Dismissal everywhere, Stone and snow, silence and air, Remember the noble dead And honour the fate you are , Travelling and tormented, Dialectic and bizarre. Stagger onward rejoicing; And even then if, perhaps Having actually got To the last col, you collapse With all Atlantis gleaming Below you yet you cannot Even to have been allowed Just to peep at Atlantis In a poetic vision: Give thanks and lie down in peace, Having seen your salvation. All the little household gods Have started crying, but say Good-bye now, and put to sea. Farewell, dear friend, farewell: may Hermes, master of the roads And the four dwarf Kabiri Protect and serve you always; And may the Ancient of Days Provide for all you must do His invisible guidance, Lifting up, friend, upon you The light of His countenance.
W H Auden - Tue Aug 26 10:43:02 1997

Can we just make sur that everyone is clear on a certain fact before we all go rushing about making our costumes, and getting ourselves all confussed. The story of Atlantis is a Greek myth. Neptune, on the other hand is a Roman Myth, and never had anything to do with Atlantis. The 'lead character' in Atlantis was Posideon, who was King of the Land called Atlantis, pre destruction/sinking. Just a thought, to help you all look a little smarter at the Party!
Stomper - Tue Aug 26 23:10:43 1997

Well, I thought the loos should have taken on a similar theme to the chill out space, SS Titanic. They should be the engine rooms of ships, where everyone is stoking the furnace.
The Rabbit - Sun Aug 31 10:59:13 1997

Even if the Spice Girls record company have the funds to have good remixes of the songs they 'sing' made, does this negate the fact that they publically support Margaret Thatcher who was the driving force behind section 28 of the local Government Act which prohibited the 'promotion of homosexuality' by local governments; essentailly gagging schools from any effective form of HIV education?
Endora Finn - Tue Sep 2 22:00:55 1997

Pauline Pantsdown?
Tue Sep 2 22:27:17 1997

I've heard it is to be the Pet Shop Boys
Yours Hopefully - Wed Sep 3 14:42:40 1997

This Brisvegas boy is having pre-sleaze palpitations.....its my first time so be gentle! But what to wear.....there's nowhere to shop in Brisbane!! Inspire me please someone!
Wardrobe Crisis - Wed Sep 3 16:45:48 1997

Go to the fish markets Brisvegas boy, good for the heart too!
sydboyz - Fri Sep 5 6:45:57 1997

It seems the topic of a male only space is rearing its ugly head yet again. Anyone care to comment on this?
Panther - Fri Sep 5 9:14:45 1997

Most fish live underwater, which is a terrible place to have sex because virtually anywhere you lie down there will be stinging crabs and large quantities of little fish staring at you with buggy little eyes. So generally when two fish want to have sex, they swim around and around for hours, looking for someplace to go, until finally the female gets really tired and has a terrible headache, and she just dumps her eggs right on the sand and swims away. Then the male, driven by some timeless, noble instinct for survival, eats the eggs. So the truth is that fish don't reproduce at all, but there are so many of them that it doesn't make any difference.
from Dave Barry, "Sex and the Single Amoeba: What Every Teen Should Know"

My rumour is Shelly Winters doing "There's Got To Be A Morning After" for the closing show!
Panther - Fri Sep 5 12:17:20 1997

Brisvegas boy: SEW SEW SEW.
matt - Sat Sep 6 11:10:02 1997

although there is a theme to sleaze, would it be ok to wear what you thought you found a turn-on, in the hope that you would bump into someone who was into that style as well, and keep in touch with them ?
boxy - Sat Sep 6 23:17:07 1997

Panther I agree Shelley Winters would be great. I would only hope that she does the very moving underwater swim scene as a finale.
Raise the Posiden - Mon Sep 8 14:29:49 1997

boxy, your point is exactly what some of us feel is the intrinsic problems as to why Sleaze isn't! It is a challenge to take your 'fetish' and develop it into something along the lines of the theme, but in the end I think you should just wear whatever it is that makes you think Sleaze, and then go forth and do it. Me, I'll be wearing my favourite fetish, with only vague reference to the theme.
Stomper@pinkboard - Mon Sep 8 15:15:24 1997

My fetish is men, so I will be dressing as a man! :-)
Panther - Mon Sep 8 15:29:17 1997

No chance of a men only space with the present "closed fish shop" that are running mardi gras
pissed off - Mon Sep 8 20:41:39 1997

Panther, how will we find you? more detail sweety!!!!!
buck - Mon Sep 8 20:43:00 1997

umm...does anybody mind if I wear my black and white fake cow hide pants....again? It'll be the 3rd sleaze in a row i've worn them. You must be thinking "how passe" but they're so cozy and comfy I just can't bear not to take them with me....maybe I could go as a bullfish! I mean does it really matter, i'm sure by 12:30 am i'll be butt naked in the loos anyway, so who'se gonna notice, or give a shit about, what i'm wearing? :) oceanman.
Mon Sep 8 20:53:36 1997

I heard a rumour...Banamarama. How thrilling....I'm sure I could get more excited over a lettuce and vegemite sandwhich. oceanman.
Mon Sep 8 20:58:04 1997

This is one young dyke who doesn't have a problem with a men only space. If we can have one I don't see why the boys can't.
Mel - Tue Sep 9 10:29:56 1997

Well the story goes that the entertainment is Tina Arena... Makes sense that she has just arrived in town and will be in Sydney around that time...Joy. It was almost a maybe as to whether or not I'd go to Sleeze ....she has just made up my mind to go to Byron Bay instead. As for the Pet Shop Boys, they were cancelled due to the fact Bev in all her wisdom, wanted to keep costs down for the big Mardi Gras next year. This years Sleeze will be cheap. Do yourselves a favour and leave this one to the straights. They'd be about the only one who'd enjoy Tina anyway, or are there still queens out there who remember YTT and pine to see tina agian?
Reliable Source - Wed Sep 10 14:40:24 1997

Bananarama, Tina Arena, Spice Girls.......will the madness never stop? They're a loooooooong way off from queer icon status.....lets hope they're a long way drom Sydney on Oct. 4th! (by the way, I was thinking of something "scaly" costume-wise...but will that mean a sequin disaster as the night wears on?)
Sleepless in BrisVegas - Wed Sep 10 16:18:01 1997

Reliable Source, don't rain on our parade!!!!!!!!
Counting the days till sleaze! - Wed Sep 10 16:21:08 1997

Tina Arena has performed at Sleaze before and put on a fabulous show! She may not be a "gay icon" but she can sing and is very supportive of the gay and lesbian community. Who cares about the big show anyway! It will only be a small part of the night. I just want to get messy and dance all night.
Gregsta - Wed Sep 10 16:45:47 1997

Finally 'The Wall' goes off! - Stay tuned for my additions.
Wed Sep 10 17:21:21 1997

Forget scales, forget fins, forget the long flowing Ursula Andress in a robe look, and Ok, the I'm so wet I might as well be underwater look will be forgettable, there is only one thing for me at Atlantis - I'm sure that all the inhabitants of Atlantis wore leather, and I'm sure that if they were dancing in the Dome that they would want to be groped. I won't be groping fins or scales - but I'll be going down on someone in leather.
Who cares about Tina because she won't be in the Dome anyway - Wed Sep 10 20:27:27 1997

I don't care who it is, as long as Amelia Airhead doesn't do the backing dance routine....again!
Lolita 2000 - Wed Sep 10 21:31:42 1997

I don't care who it is, as long as Amelia Airhead doesn't do the backing dance routine....again!
Lolita 2000 - Wed Sep 10 21:33:14 1997

Who cares about the big show? Endora does! For me the shows are as important a mood enhancer as the music. A dull show can make for a dull party, whereas a stunning show can take you to a completely higher level! Here's an example, think about how you felt when Kylie did a show & compare that to the buzz you got from the 'Cyber Sleaze' 'shows' which were only on video screens. I understand that not everybody cares if the shows are there or not but for many other people they can make or break a party.
Endora Finn - Thu Sep 11 7:57:08 1997

Endora, Yes! shows can make or break a party for some people, and even when we haven't seen shows, we always wish we had at the end, as so many people are talking about them, and if everyone is raving about them then you always feel as though you have missed out on an integral part. However when M.G. don't get their act together, and leave everyone crushed in to watch something second rate, I find myself wondering whether the hour it has taken out of my party was worth it. Some of the best shows I have ever seen, I have stumbled across. The 4am show in the Hordern at last years VooDoo Circus would have to be one of my all time favourites. Gorillas in Tutu's was mind blowing and we only stumbled upon it as we were wondering past the Horden. If I had missed that show and some one had tried to explain it to me I would have thought they were just a little past it at the time. Shows or No Shows, a party is what you make it. Do what I do. Make your own shows!
Thu Sep 11 11:20:41 1997

I do agree that shows are important. I just find that it is only a small part of the night. I go to all parties with the aim of having a great time and I always do! Hopefully I'll get to see a show but if I'm somewhere else having a good time and miss a show it doesn't matter. I hate it when there is a big show and everyone knows it. We all crush into one hall for an hour waiting, then it takes another half an hour to get back outside. Thats not fun!! I'd rather be dancing to fabulous music for that one and a half hours instead of getting hot, sweaty and crushed. ( I can get that in the Hordern toilets if I want it.)
Gregsta - Thu Sep 11 18:13:17 1997

I'm scared. I'm a little lost country boy (far north queensland) who'se coming to Sydney for the first time ever, and to Sleaze. I need someone to hold my hand (at least until the E's kick in and then I'll need you to hold my...*blush*). Is it true that topless is the norm? I'd love to show off my smooth, tanned, muscular frame in a fun and modest way. Does that sound pretentious? I have uni exams the day after Sleaze; do you think I'll be in any fit state to actually make it to the examiners room let alone have the ability to concentrate on what is probably the most important moment of my academic studies.? Maybe I'll keep a little E on reserve. Not to worry, I'll survive. yippppeeeeeeeeeee, it's gonna be fun!!!
Thu Sep 11 18:30:43 1997

Did you hear the news?....Diana Ross was seen exiting a limojet and boarding a private boat on route for Hayman Island today. Allan Jones said it this morning, and he's no idiot! (since when does Allan Jones pay attention to anyone who'se black, let alone female?) ~^o ~^o
Thu Sep 11 18:38:01 1997

"My fetish is men, so I will be dressing as a man! :-) Panther - Mon Sep 8 15:29:17 1997" That'll be a first! Just make sure you wear a name tag so we know it's you.
I hope you're still my friend? - Fri Sep 12 10:06:44 1997

Reliable Source - Old queens our age remember Young Talent Time, but who noticed Tina Arena? Jamie Redfern for the show & I'll dress as Liberace. But then again I remember Circus Boy!
Old Hippy Queen - Fri Sep 12 11:20:22 1997

Happy Sleaze Ball!!! I wish I could make it. Can't believe that Spice Girl and Bananarama are performing for the show. Is it confirmed yet? I wonder... I don't believe Spice Girl...How girl....yyy. Where is Kylie???? by the way.
rompey - Fri Sep 12 11:28:06 1997

Diana Ross to perform at Sleaze Ball??? My God, can you imagine the screams, the hysteria??? There will be a crush of several thousand screaming queens. It could get messy. I can't wait!
Spandex Boy - Fri Sep 12 12:23:15 1997

I want to know who is going to be the first DJ to play the dance remix of the newly released 'Candle In The Wind'?
Tasteless, yet scarily possible! - Fri Sep 12 17:00:21 1997

Speaking of DJ's, in the RHI it starts light and fluffy with Mr Blomfield, then an unknown in Jayson Leahy who has'nt even played at a club let alone a party(scarey) and to finish of Steve Carley is promising a stand out set which will keep us twirling right till the end.
fishfantasy - Fri Sep 12 18:29:33 1997

Steven Hales, Stephen Blomfield, Steve Carley, and Stephen Allkins, what happened not a single Scot.
Beam me Up - Fri Sep 12 18:33:27 1997

pissed off, there are so many reasons why there isn't a male only space at the parties, but this is why I agree with having a women's space - The party is 70% male, the Carousel is not a women's *only* space, but a women's *targetted* space to which men are allowed when accompanying their lesbian friends, until it becomes overcrowded, or the male to female ratio in the hall creeps past a certain point. Then preference is given to women. Surely you have noticed the wall to wall men dancing in the RHI & the Dome, with smatterings of women throughout. Think of Carousel as simply one small hall out of 6 or 7 with the situation reversed, and a little help to keep it that way.
PopTart - Fri Sep 12 20:42:55 1997

Further to that: What exactly is it that will happen in a male only space, even in a male targetted space, that doesn't or couldn't happen in any of the other spaces? It is our party, we can do what we want where we want!
Panther - Sat Sep 13 13:29:05 1997

Rompey asked "where is Kylie anyway?" she released the debut single from her new album this week in the UK. To get more info check out http://www.kylie.com
Endora Finn - Sat Sep 13 16:03:09 1997

hey, before we all go getting to excited about sleaze and enjoying ourselves lets not forget our indigenous brothers and sisters. Do something worthwhile and purposeful...go back a page and register your name against the wik decision, apologise on-line to the stolen generation and support reconciliation. That's what the principles of parties like Sleaze are all about; cultural and social diversity, celebration of difference and social justice.

Support ecological sustainabilty to!!!!
your contribution really does make a difference.
can't wait to party hard... - Sun Sep 14 17:00:48 1997

So Panther, You'r e dressing as a man? makes the mind boggle! Is that a man dressed as a girl or a girl dressed as a man?
Your loving friend... - Sun Sep 14 18:05:45 1997

"I'd love to show off my smooth, tanned, muscular frame in a fun and modest way." That would be a first honey!!! No place for modest Queens at this party. The body section is always at the front right of the dancefloor in the RHI. See you there!!!!
fishfantasy - Sun Sep 14 22:25:00 1997

"70% male", pitty so many are f--king straights. We should just shock them off the dancefloor and out the door.We should make our own male only space by being men, doing men, where ever we want!!!!!
dicks out - Sun Sep 14 22:30:24 1997

"dicks out" see you at 1pm centre dancefloor RHI
male to male - Sun Sep 14 22:35:14 1997

male to male : I agree. Lets 'make' Sleaze. However I think you need to change the time from 1pm to 1am. If so, I'll keep you to it!
Always to keen to Sleaze - Mon Sep 15 16:42:16 1997

ooppps, yes 1am, silly queen I am
male to male - Mon Sep 15 17:54:09 1997

One can only hope that the party would go till 1pm Male to Male! Still, my exams dictate that I shall not be going to Sleeze *Sniff*. Hope everyone has a great time though. I rather like the idea of everyone getting their dicks out on the dancefloor at 1am in the middle of RHI, maybe I could be enticed to get a ticket afterall....
Give me a reason to go - Tue Sep 16 12:59:40 1997

Okay: The challenge is given. Who else is going to be there, middle of the RHI, 1am, Dicks Out! We could make it a statement. All we would then need to organise is for Mazz to be there too. I'm keen if anyone else is too.
Don't give me a challenge, and not expect a response. - Tue Sep 16 13:48:05 1997

Lolita 2000: What was the 'other' dance routine that Amelia Airhead did? Not following the drag circuit I wouldn't even know what she looked like, but I would probably remember the show, especially if it was bad!
Tue Sep 16 13:50:41 1997

Middle RHI 1am, I'll be there with bells on(not much else)
just men please - Wed Sep 17 8:38:40 1997

can i get my boobs out instead?
Wed Sep 17 12:56:52 1997

Call me insecure, but is anyone else feeling totally overwhelmed by the pressure to be totally gorgeous come Oct. 4th? As a Sleaze virgin I don't really know what to expect, but will there be anything else but plastic pony boys pulling out their dicks on the dance floor in some misdirected attempt at Gay pride? God help anyone who tries to grope me without the go ahead from me because surprising as it may sound to some of you sleaze veterans, drug f@#*ed gropes from ugly men is far from appealing to me..........Please reassure me someone that Sleaze is a little more inclusive than some sad glorification of beat culture and irresponsible promiscuity....? Maybe I'm all wrong and there will be a niche for those of us who enjoy the company of our own kind but choose to be a little pickier about who we pull our dicks out for!
Sleepless in Brisvegas - Wed Sep 17 13:25:21 1997

Brisvegas : Let me be polite about all of this. As you say, you are a Sleaze Virgin, and have No idea what to expect. That is your biggest problem, but probably what could be your best asset, as you will arrive with no preconceptions about what it is that that Sleaze is about. Let me just make the most poignant point here: Sleaze is, and should be, about Sleaze! Now that the obvious has been said, let me assist you in the comming to understand what we are all on about. Sleaze is a wonderful celebration of sexuality. It allows me to tell alot of people about who I am. What it is that I like and Whom I like. I should feel as though I can express this where I wish, with whom I wish. Anyone that cannot cope with me expressing these feelings has no real place at Sleaze. This is were one of the biggest issues arise. The hetrosexual community should not make me feel as though what I am, and what I want, is in anyway wrong or offensive. I deal with this all to often. So if I wish to express myself, by pulling my dick out on the dancefloor, and that offends some straight person, Good! Hopefully if they are offended enough they'll leave. If it offends a Gay man or Lesbian, then, I sorry, but you did come to Sleaze Ball, what did you expect. In the same way, If I discovered a 'straight couple' fu@king on the dancefloor, and it has been known to happen, then I would expect that they not be offended if I walked up behind said 'straight' boy and started to caress his body, or chew on his arse. If it did, I would expect that they would stop, and move elsewhere, hopefully outside the gates. (I wonder whether it is going to be official 'sglmg' policy again that if you find someone doing something that you find offensive, ie. straight sex, you can have them ejected from the Part?) "Dick's Out @ 1am" as far as I see it is not some desperate gesture at Gay Pride. I don't need to go to a Gay and Lesbian event to express that, I do it each day. In the way I look, and dress, and act. Not because I'm just glad to be a Faggot, but because I'm proud of who I am. What "Dicks out @ 1am" will hopefully be doing is setting a feel and setting it early. "D.O.@1" is not about a mass grope, and it's not about "Ugly" men. Your deffinition of what is 'Ugly" I would like to know, you being the one who is "overwhelmed by the pressure to be totally gorgeous". All I can suggest is that you get with the swing of things. Make Sleaze what it should be. If you don't 'take your hand off it' before the party, no one is going to be able to get near enough to do anything with you, whether that be hold you, caress you, kiss you, lick you, or even just smile at you, with that little wink which says you're cute. Have a great party is all that I can offer you on top of that.
The Proudest Faggot about - Wed Sep 17 17:47:46 1997

'Can I get my Boobs Out instead?' Why Certainly, unless your that flicky hair girl who always stands in front of me when the shows are on. If you are miss flicky then I hope you fall off your boyfriends shoulders & break your coccyx on your bumbag! To all the delicious Dykes out there - why not show all the handbags what a fish is really for!
Scully - Wed Sep 17 21:44:51 1997

"Sleepless in Brisvegas" such a sad sad boy. You really have no idear do you, just a collection of offensive old cliches rattleling around you empty little head. Sleaze is a state of mind, an outlook on the night, that hopfully everyone takes on and travels with up there own path. Each persons path is just as valid as everyone elses, comments like"than some sad glorification of beat culture and irresponsible promiscuity....?" just show me how sad, and bigoted you are.
as you please, with respect for others - Thu Sep 18 6:57:42 1997

Back on a lighter note, and back to some party gossip. Opening Show : 'The Love Boat'. Has anyone else noticed it's resurgence lately, it is getting some air time. Who'll play Captain Stubbing, will it be it be Bev, will it be Smoggadonna. Rumour has it that Smoggie is soon to be departing for Bangkok for a tour of duty.
Beleive what you want. - Thu Sep 18 9:21:39 1997

I stand corrected!!!
Sleepless in Brisvegas - Thu Sep 18 16:28:31 1997

Thanks "Proudest Faggot", you just about say it all - although sometimes at Sleaze I don't mind seeing (experiencing?) some things which might be thought of as 'heterosexual' acts of sex, ie don't forget that sometimes dyke and fag, bi, trans and tri-sexul friends get all E-xperimentally affectionate with each other in what can be a non-judgemental environment. However, to (finally) get to why I'm writing in - a bitch! I thought Sleaze was supposed to be a party for us and our friends, not something you can just win a ticket to attend - so what's the story with the White Room (straight-ish) venue costume competition on Saturday which has prizes which include two tickets to Sleaze? Bitching aside, the sleaze graffitti board is great for racking up the pre-party excitement - any more fabulous rumours (sorry, authenticated facts)? PS - A friend of mine has just told me I can't go in the DO@1am because at that stage I won't be able to find it....however I'll spread the word...
Fast love - Thu Sep 18 16:56:23 1997

Hey Fast Love you've got a point there. If past experience is anything to go by it will be more like button mushrooms out @1AM!
Endora Finn - Thu Sep 18 18:11:20 1997

I'm abstaining from the "One o'clock flop 'em out". I'll be on my knees ... so I can deep throat each and every male participant within reach.
Slutboy - Thu Sep 18 20:39:39 1997

Slutboy, gargle, spit or swallow?
Thu Sep 18 20:40:51 1997

If Slutboy only wants to gargle, he can then spit it to me, and I'll swallow.
hmmmmm. - Fri Sep 19 9:28:15 1997

Olivia Newton John is in town for the Superleauge Final this Saturday. I wonder If she'll be hanging around for a couple more weeks?
Endora Finn - Fri Sep 19 12:35:28 1997

UltraKunt and her juicy clam will not be appearing at this year's Sleaze. Last years efforts were enough. One does have to stay ahead of the pack after all.
UltraKunt - Fri Sep 19 12:58:53 1997

'The Proudest Faggot about' - Thank you for speaking for those who Do Have an Idea. As we both know, those who Have No Idea should not be in the same company as those who Do Have an Idea.
Proudest Faggots best friend - Fri Sep 19 13:37:24 1997

And we 'DO' have an idea.
Fri Sep 19 14:44:48 1997

Fast Love : I'd be curious as to know whether M.G. are aware that White Room are giving away tickets. I'm sure they'd be interested to know who's membership they were bought on too. I also agree with your comments about 'E-xperimental' experiences on the dancefloor, I've even been apart of some myself. Just another point: If you won't be able to 'Find It' at 1am I think you must be starting a tad early. But perhaps you should be there just for the moral support anyway.
P.F.A. - Fri Sep 19 17:09:09 1997

Panther, it seems to me that you lack some support from some of your "friends"- the "loving" ones that is. At least having stated your fetish and intended mode of dress, we can only judge you upon seeing you. You should be congratulated for mentioning 2 things which at least suggest Sleaze: fetish & men. Walking up and down Oxford St one would be forgiven for thinking it was February and Mardi Gras was around the corner. If we assume that your friends will behave in the same way, it will be very interesting to see what they are wearing....and what sort of *man* they are after. Sleaze and fetish hangs around with dark colours, sweat and sex. Panther, don't be pressured by your "friends" to follow the Oxfrock St scene to wear bright colours, sequins or pastels.
Winnie & Tiger - Sun Sep 21 8:00:05 1997

As much as I enjoy fetish, the colour is dark. I am looking forward to swimming in a sea of colour.
Fish in the sea - Sun Sep 21 9:10:11 1997

Endora is swinging both ways, I'll be wearing leather *and* sequins! Don't be pressured by anybody about what to wear, be it the Oxford St scene or Winnie & Tiger! Wear what you damn well want & wear it with Pride. Sleaze is a state of mind, I could go wearing a tutu & waving a fairy wand & still hit slut factor 9. It's not what you wear but what you do when you wear it :)
Endora Finn - Sun Sep 21 11:36:13 1997

I wouldn't mind how many straights turned up to the party, if the majority of them weren't complete wankers direct from DCM and the Temple. God only knows what the crowd is going to be like, especially since Wild FM's popularisation of Oxford St....but take comfort in the fact you will always be able to find small groups of great people, join up with them, drop a few things a have the best night of your life. At least that's what I'm going to do.
mohawk - Sun Sep 21 13:58:54 1997

Great just what we need, the knife carrying wankers from DCM.
Had a knife pulled on me - Mon Sep 22 14:53:35 1997

how excitement! I'm so much of the above all mixed up ... a country boy who's also a Sleaze virgin, and with sequins on the mind, but you can bet I'm not gonna miss the dick flop exhibition, but whether I'll be a participate or scrabbling on my knees to will depend on the moment ...... I just cannot wait!!!! Just one thing I need advice about - how do I get to the party wearing as little as I intend? Or does every taxi driver in Sydney that night just close their eyes when they pick up their passengers?
screaming with the best of them! - Mon Sep 22 19:49:35 1997

Screaming with.. : As for the taxi's. Most taxi drivers in Sydney are pretty cool. If you could see what I've got into a taxi wearing! Don't be shy, most of them will be very interested, they're usually very happy to talk about the night, and will usually wish you a great time. Getting home can be a different matter. If you intend to get a taxi home from the party, get one from outside the showgrounds. The taxis that go there are prepared for what they find. Trying to get a taxi from Cleveland St, Anzac Parade or South Dowling St can be a nightmare as most won't stop, for fear of what I don't know. Have fun at the party.
Been there, Done that. - Tue Sep 23 11:13:42 1997

Check out http://cnn.com/TRAVEL/NEWS/9709/19/lost.atlantis.ap/
Tue Sep 23 11:24:21 1997

It saddens me to hear how people view the DCM's crowd. I go there, and sure you get the occasional plastic gangster or dork from the air waves of Wild Fm and yes it did go down hill. But what the about the good part of the crowd both straight and gay who are actually normal. The only people from DCM that I know are going to sleaze are the true party goes who dare all. And besides the wankers with knives probably cant get tickets and neither could the Wild Fm dorks
Been there and seen all - Tue Sep 23 15:05:08 1997

What's DCM????
Out of Town, without a clue.... - Tue Sep 23 15:39:46 1997

DCM is a night club on Oxford Street that has become a little too commercial from a certain radio station called Wild FM. Basically it is the place to be seen where everyone gets out their glamour gear and parties hard for a good 8 or so hours depending on how many drugs you need, or want to pump through your system. The crowd generally is there to have a good time apart from the heavies in society who like carrying guns and knives as security blankets when they go out. The club however plays the best music in Sydney on Saturday and Sunday nights with non stop dancing for the party people, or for the smacked out, chill out room with clouds on the roof.
Need to see to be believed - Tue Sep 23 16:39:20 1997

"Been there and seen all" & "Need to see to be believed" your two of the wankers darlings, so how can we believe you. I work there and belive me if you go there your no friend of a gay oxford street. And they will get tickets, most already have, they tell me over the bar.
Wed Sep 24 8:01:48 1997

Well there you go. Who cares who goes and who doesn't. I don't really give a sh*t if straights go to sleaze or not. You will be able to tell who they are anyway. As long as all the boys are there, I'm sure we will let Everything hang out.......
Wed Sep 24 9:34:55 1997

To the worker at DCM. I have seen the guns drawn and the crowd scatter in DC's, a few months ago. Yeah sure I agree there are alot of wankers in there and yes I know some are going to sleaze but give those two a break, there unfortunately just telling the way they see it.
Wed Sep 24 9:40:02 1997

Endora lives just behind DCM & is sad to say that she has seen fights in the street outside DCM & Temple too many times. Friday & Saturday nights are so dodgy that Endora avoids that end of the street altogether. In recent years there has been a definite change in the feeling around that end of the street, that change has started to carry itself into the MG partys. While the patrons of DCM are wankers the real blame lies with the Management of DCM who pander to this crowd & let them into their club in the 1'st place. Endora has spoken to too many people this year who arn't going to Sleaze because they think it will be an agro straight fest. Endora *will* be going because I feel that not going is self defeating and the party's are as queer as *we* make them!
Endora Finn - Wed Sep 24 10:27:52 1997

Thank you Endora. Yes *we* make it what *we* want. Someone saying 'I'm not going to Sleaze' is like saying 'I'm not going to be a fag, the rest of the world is too straight!' I'm happy for there to be a mix of people at *our* party, I just don't want to see the 'ugly' side of the 'outside' world. I don't understand what it is that 'roid boys' with bimbo girlfriends get out of going to a major Gay and Lesbian Events. They don't mingle. They don't look as though they are having fun. They aren't friendly(No amount of E will counter years of roid abuse). They've got no idea about what is going on about them. I'm not going to be my usual tolerant self this year, this year I'm going for the juggler with anyone who get s in my way of having a good time.
There! I've said what I wanted. - Wed Sep 24 12:20:24 1997

Let's get a grip on ourselves! Hmmmmmmmmmm. That's feels much better! Any more gossip? I know there is going to be a 'middle show' in the RHI, about 3am. to 4am. It was pointed out to me that this party is going to be the Last Dome party, so if you want to enjoy it one last time this will be the party to do it at.
Wed Sep 24 14:24:54 1997

Wow - there really are as many points of view about Sleaze as there are partygoers. Just like Mardi Gras it's been bigger than all of us for years. (Too big I think, but that's another debate!) In the past I've seen two people look at the same crowd on the dancefloor with one saying it's "75% queer" and the other "75 % too straight". Fortunately in a party this big you can usually find more than enough groups of like-minded friendly types to share a few special moments. I guess all of us, and yes, a number of "that DCM crowd", will be there making up the 17,000 or so on the night so it's up to us to make sure we have a good time ourselves and maybe if we feel so inclined (is this a responsibility?) help other queers have a good time too. I hear MOST of the budget has gone into decorations this year and less on big-note celebrities - which is fine by me! There's just so much to enjoy. I can't imagine being able to have a good time at the party if I allowed other people to bring me down. A friend once told me their entire night at Sleaze had been made by just one glorious dance they shared with someone they found happy and beautiful. Me? I really like to dance, and to watch (the first is the reason for causing, and the second is just as well considering, my common party condition...)
Fast love - Wed Sep 24 14:56:23 1997

Just how many str8s are we talking here??? The whole thing is staring to sound more and more unappealing as time goes on....guns, knives, str8s in a bad mood (at OUR party!!!!)...who can we turn to?????? Do we just surround everyone with that fantastic inclusiveness that gay dance parties are famous for and hope that the vibe lifts them up? I for one don't want to feel any sort of agro energy while I'm having the time of my life on mind altering substances...........
Wed Sep 24 17:11:14 1997

By the way, I'll be the beautiful and happy one spreading love and good energies......feel free to come and dance with me if its all getting too much!
Happy, but happier still at Sleaze! - Wed Sep 24 17:16:09 1997

Would love to dance with you and spread that 'good energy'. When and where?
Wed Sep 24 21:21:05 1997

We should have a queer test at the gates. If you want to get in you should have to shove your tongue down the throat of a member of the same sex. Can't see any of the roid boys doing that!!
Thu Sep 25 8:46:53 1997

The bag search at the gates does check for weapons, as well as mobile phones and cameras. None of these are permitted. If you are feeling threatened then either move to a friendlier part of the dance floor or mention it to security. Then go and find some friends or a cute stranger give them a hug and kiss and continue partying.
Panther - Thu Sep 25 9:53:45 1997

Winnie & Tiger: Thanks for your support of my right to dress as I want. Hope I don't wierd you out too much. See you at DO@1
Panther - Thu Sep 25 9:56:59 1997

I wonder which MG Board member Jason Leahy is screwing? Not only does he get the prime time slot in the RHI but he has mixed the Sleaze CD as well! Not bad for somebody who nobody has ever heard mix. (fingers & toes crossed that he can mix). Who remembers that DJ from Melbourne who nobody had heard mix live & was a disaster at Sleaze a couple of years ago?
Thu Sep 25 9:58:21 1997

I volunteer as a queer tester at the gates! Although I think they should have to shove their tonge *Up* rather than down a member of the same sex!
Scarlet Gash - Thu Sep 25 10:01:56 1997

It seems it will be a Young Talent Time reunion this Sleaze, not only Tina but Danni as well!
Endora Finn - Thu Sep 25 11:03:28 1997

Endora F - re Danni: Ar-g-h!!!! That rumour is so awful it's almost certainly true! I've heard there are shows in the RHI at 1 and 5am so DO@1 may be a little squishy-er than anticipated...Panther - just what ARE you wearing? (At least give us a few tantalising hints)
Fast love - Thu Sep 25 12:17:58 1997

when is Phylis Diller gonna perform at Sleaze? She's a gay and lesbian icon right? The epitomy of the body beautiful (ugh!). And in response to Sleaze being to straight...the less queers that go the greater the opportunity for straights to attend. Think about, go and get your tickets now and make it an overwhelmingly Lesbian and Gay Party!!!! Thanks to Bev and the whole Mardi Gras team for putting on the best ball in the world! Don't dare tell me it won't be fantastic, I checked my whinging attitude in weeks ago. I know it's gonna be another fantastic experience cause that's exactly what I'll make of it. Yaahoooooooooooo.....Sydney and Sleaze here I come!
Oceanman - Thu Sep 25 13:03:53 1997

Being the mate in the Panther enclosure at Pinkboard headquaters I have been observing the creation of Panther's costume for Sleaze. I don't really know what the definition of dressing as a man really means. (Visions of stubbies and thongs come to mind) But I can assure you all it is very interesting....... By the way Slut Boy, you better move over for DO@1. I want to share in some of those juicy dicks. It will be better than the 1.00am show I'm sure.
Gregsta - Thu Sep 25 18:00:20 1997

If Gresta is going to be there on his knees, I'm definitely not going to partake of DO@1. Things are getting a little bit out of hand with the number of people who want to be on their knees @ 1. At this rate things could end up looking more like a church service with everyone on there knees. The pupose of DO@1 was not to give people the chance to drop to there knees, but to set the tone for the party. I suppose a few people on their knees would only help set the tone, but I suppose I'm only jelous because I'd rather be on my knees too. I suppose boys on their knees could help set the tone too, especially if those straight'ish type boys can't deal with it. Then again some of thm might find themselves pulling out their dicks too. I'm never one to pass by a dick, no matter how the person it's attached to identifies. Ohhhh Well. Gregsta, I think you may have given a little too much away about Panthers outfit. Going as beach bumb in 'ocker' stubbiies etc.. is a wonderful concept. At least if Panther wears that he'll blend in with all the other "J&T's" - Jeans and T-shirts'.
Sick of going to the Gym - Thu Sep 25 21:48:55 1997

To the gym boy. My main reason for going on my knees is because I know my dick will be dificult to find by 1am. I intend to have a seriously fabulous time which will be mostly artificially produced...... Looks like of thrown you way off the track with Panthers outfit. We'll just have to wait and see. (Who could imagine Panther looking masculine at a fag party anyway)
Gregsta - Thu Sep 25 22:27:58 1997

Hey Gregsta - at least we'll be able to sort out the roid boys from the real men. Don't their dicks shrink to a twig to hang their sultana nuts off? *giggle*
Screaming with the best - Thu Sep 25 23:14:18 1997

Flop those dicks out and do whatever you want boys, we're just out there to dance our buts off and have a fabulous time. See you all there, wiggling those little fishy tails (shake that tushie)
Pam and Jules - Fri Sep 26 4:24:39 1997

I wonder if anyone could help me to track down a spare ticket to sleaze urgently. I have a friend flying from the US at the last minute and his ticket fell through.
Needs help - Fri Sep 26 13:03:21 1997

Needs Help : Who are you? How do we know you're genuine? Is your friend cute? Will you both be there for DO@1?
I'm not being too difficult. - Fri Sep 26 14:20:16 1997

How overwhelming, see you at DO@1, love to you all.
dicks out - Fri Sep 26 15:24:06 1997

To I'm not being too difficult. Would I really be getting someone out from the US if I wasn't genuine. I don't think he is but eveyone I know does. And depending on the state we're both in we will be there for DO@1 I wouldn't miss it for the world.. Is there any chance of a spare ?
Needs help - Fri Sep 26 16:17:17 1997

Needs Help : E-mail me 'stomper.mistress@pinkboard.com.au' and we will see if we can't assist you. There really isn't as much panic as the papers profess to be. There are still 3,500 tickets left to sell, that was 8pm Friday. Hope to hear from you soon.
Not being too difficult. - Fri Sep 26 21:57:26 1997

I'm glad its raining so much lately, it'll give us plenty of pratice for the wetness of next weekend.
Swimming in it. - Fri Sep 26 22:00:11 1997

And we all love you "dicks out", you've started something big, or should be you've got a big one!
male to male - Sat Sep 27 0:40:05 1997

The Sleaze CD features a dance remix of Tina Arena's 'Burn, looks like the rumours true! Oh well, at leats we'll have DO@1, I'm sure that will be much more entertaining. Perhaps we should talk to Bev & persuade her to put Tina in the middle of the RHI & have DO@1 on the stage! Just a thought....
Endora Finn - Sat Sep 27 9:36:23 1997

Panther : I'm glad you're wearing something you're making yourself. No matter what it is you find sleazy, and no matter how you define your fetish, I'm sure you'll be a 'Jewel' in the ocean of sweat.
Another Beautiful Jewel. - Sat Sep 27 12:26:11 1997

And who else is going to the underwear party on Sunday morning?
SleazeBucket - Sat Sep 27 13:06:42 1997

Needs Help : Do you still? We've lined a ticket up if you still want one. You have my contact details above. Let me know soon, if they sell out it could be gone quickly.
Stomper - Sat Sep 27 18:40:02 1997

I think my life is over - is it really true that this Sleaze is the last one that will use the Dome? What is to become of the world - more importantly where will Inquisition be held? Also,where is Trouble who was such a sweetie on the Mardi Gras Graffiti Wall?
Wondering - Sat Sep 27 21:04:53 1997

Don't expect too amazing a closing show. Apparently they are going for lots of people on stage. Simple choreograhpy, ie. everyone will be totally wasted. A warm fuzzy feeling spilling over us all. Perhaps there could be another 'D.O.' event at the close. What is going to be the walk off song? My guess, either 'Candle in the Wind', or most probably 'There's got to be a morning after.' What ever it is I sure you'll find me dancing away to it until security have to come a forcibly ask me to leave, like they do at every party. There is nothing quiet as rewarding as seeing the RHI empty of people, lights up, and a million water bottles covering the floor. It makes for a wonderful obstacle course. I could go on or ages... I'm getting too excited. At least all my extras have arrived, and are safely tucked away under my pillow.
It's all to much for this boy. - Mon Sep 29 15:03:09 1997

Has anyone thought about what all these boys may do with their dicks hanging out at 1am. Are they just going to stand there, dicks swinging in the brezze? Or are they going to dance about, dicks jiggling along with them? Perhaps they may try and start an orgy? Or will they go about thrusting them in everyones 'faces'? Perhaps some discussion on the actual length of time for which they will have their dicks hanging out should be discussed. How will they know when it is 1am? How will they now exactly where everyone is to be, there are a lot of 'middle of the dance floor' places? Should the lighting designers and operators be informed so as to perhaps give some added attention. Perhaps someone should be contacting Stephen Blomfield and asking that he perhaps have a 'special' track lined up, and what will that track be? These insightful questions and more need to be addressed before a successfull event can be declared.
Just trying to help organise things like Mardi Gras would! - Tue Sep 30 8:34:00 1997

Re - special track, How about 'Let me be your underwear' by club 69 (take those jeans off!). Or maybe 'Short dick man' by Sister Bliss. Or even 'You think your a man' by Divine, Or 'Fee fi Fo Fum, look out throat here it comes'
Endora Finn - Tue Sep 30 9:22:09 1997

I have two tickets going for sale, genuine reasons, I fractured my foot in 5 places so the bf and I are not gona go. Email me if you wanna buy them. scooter@brainwaave.com.au
Scott - Tue Sep 30 9:22:16 1997

Stomper:Thankyou but Need help is no longer attending as he died on the weekend from helping two women in trouble in the city
Friend of one that has lost - Tue Sep 30 9:29:48 1997

For a preview of the rumoured star of the closing show try Fish records in Oxford Street around 7 on Thursday night...
Tue Sep 30 11:19:28 1997

I thought DCM's was the Donuts Coffee & Muffins store at the top of the Wynyard escalators on the way to work each morning. I always go there and its great, so don't knock it.
Sharon of Blacktown - Tue Sep 30 12:12:34 1997

I thought it was obvious to everyone that the closing show is to be another rehash of ex-Bananarama 'Venus'
Too good to be true - Tue Sep 30 12:16:27 1997

Someone justify 'Venus', and it's association with Atlantis.
Tue Sep 30 12:48:27 1997

Just because it's by "Aqua" I want them to play... I´m a barbie girl, in a barbie world Life in plastic, it´s fantastic. you can brush my hair, undress me everywhere. Imagination, that is your creation.........
Miss Whirley - Tue Sep 30 16:36:30 1997

Well I was on stage at Mardi Gras, swinging a kilt at Edinburgh Pride, back stage with the Pet Shop Boys at London Pride and tomorrow night I will be getting on a plane so that I can be were the action is next. London-Sydney-London all within five days. So I may need a life support system by the end of it but I dare anyone to tell me its not worth it!!!! See you all there with bells (and absolutely bloody nothing else) on.
The Lost One - Wed Oct 1 3:55:31 1997

Lost One : Word of advice, when you reached Australian Customs, tell them your a friend of mine, they'll look after you really well. If they ask to look in your bags, tell them you are here for teh Sleaze Ball. They're actually enjoy meeting the people who are coming here for such events.
Stomper - Wed Oct 1 8:18:47 1997

Help!!!! I'm having a post waxing rash disaster!!!! Can someone please reassure me that my chest and stomach (both of which represent considerable effort at the gym) will be in pristine condition by sat. night...? Pleeaaase.....? (that'll teach me to be such a vain and shallow idiot anyway.....)
Leprosy boy - Wed Oct 1 9:02:54 1997

dear leprosy boy - try phoning Will at Baby Blue 02 9331 8050. He'll probably be able to recommend some highly expensive yet soothing cream which is made by the same people who make the waxing strips.
Scarlet Gash - Wed Oct 1 10:00:36 1997

I know I'm a little ahead of things but N.Y.E. Fact #1. Both the Hordern and R.H.I. Numbers expected @ 12,000.
Wed Oct 1 11:42:48 1997

Finally, I accept its true. I heard on the train that its to be Danni & Tina. But why, why, why! does everyone appear to prefer Danni. Have I missed something? Never mind, if rumours are true, Elton John and George Michael will both be great to listen to at the 20th next year...
Style police - Wed Oct 1 16:55:12 1997

Although the philosophy of DO@1 reads like a great idea. To be sure it will prove to only as an excercise as to who is having the best time. Those proving to be long in the shlong at this time could only be Str8, in their pretense of acceptance by the greater majority. Everybody knows that the gay factor (due to chemical enhancement) will be by this time shrivelled to a peanut-sized morsel and therefore will have proven to be having the more pleasurable experience. However the better time, if we are old enough to remember the good old days, will be being had in the loos by this time way after a well aimed stilleto had enhanced the local lighting. I don't mind sharing the experience of airing my weapon with my gay sisters, but who wants a gaggle of limpid str8 girls oggling their nether regions. I suppose in the long run it would give them something slightly interesting to talk about for the next ten years.
whalebone - Thu Oct 2 0:18:59 1997

So what's all the fuss. It's just another night in our lives. No matter how good, bad or indifferent the party is, life goes on. Is it really that important whether the DJs play great music or music not to our taste? A show is just a show. Lights are just lights. What if you do or do not find love on the dance floor (or sex in the toilets)? When the music stops and lights are turned on, we all go back to our reality (some via the recovery parties). All this may be be true - but by God I wouldn't miss it for quids. PS A note to the DJs in RHI - if you can't lip synch to it then don't play it
KC from Newtown (via Paddington - a victim of Sydney property prices ) - Thu Oct 2 7:36:43 1997

Whalebone: not all of us suffer from button mushrooms.
Thu Oct 2 8:44:57 1997

Dear KC 'Is it really that important....' Yes it bloody well is, especially when you have forked out $70 for a ticket, of which an unknown amount will go towards the 'unexplained discrepancies in ticket sales' which always appear in the MG Annual report.
Fingers in the till? - Thu Oct 2 9:42:33 1997

I have an enticing offer for the DJ's. Some friends have advised that as soon as/if they hear a 'Chemical Brothers' track, they are immediately going to jump atop the closest speaker stack, and start jerking off. They aren't expecting to hear any C.B. tracks so feel as though they are pretty 'safe'. Perhaps one of the DJ's, if they thought it appropriate, would play a C.B. track, I think there would be a lot of entertainment ensuing.
Like to see my friends stick to their word. - Thu Oct 2 9:50:14 1997

KC: Yes, "It's just another night in our lives." But it really is a special night. It's not just about dancing,(and lip synching - for those inclined), or about music(although it helps), or about shows, or sex, or lights(these all help too), to me its about being happy. When I walk into the party, I know I'm going to be seeing so many happy smiling faces on friends. I'm going to say hello to so many people I hardly ever see, except at these parties, whom I've come to love over the years of just partying together. I'm going to have some wonderful time dancing with those people I love to dance with, and hopefully dance with a few new ones too. I'm going to hopefully talk to complete strangers, perhaps wish them a happy Sleaze. A kiss on the cheek, or perhaps a little snog. A pinch on the bum. A wink and cheeky smile. I want to be ablee to stand in the middle of the RHI and the end of the party and feel really good about who I am, and who I am in this community. I like to feel as though this was My party for Me, and the persons next to me Party for Them. I know this perhaps all sounds 'A bit Deep', but just don't think "It's just another night in our lives." I hope it is another *wonderful* night in our lives. Have the night of your life. I'm going too!
Beautiful - Thu Oct 2 10:07:02 1997

pages ago you thought it would be me - now it's Danni and Tina! Danni and Tina who? Ask me for Mardi Gras sweeties. And by the way, aren't we entitled to free drinking water at parties now? where will it be? See you in the Dome for Gary T. Ain't no mountain high enough
Diana. - Thu Oct 2 11:03:26 1997

Two more sleeps! The Canberra Boys will be hurtling towards Sin City tonight. Remember - if you see us on the highway, honk if you're horny.
Spandex Boy - Thu Oct 2 14:10:57 1997

DO@1am makes the front page of the Star! Read and marvel at the cross-fertilised publicity...
Fast love - Thu Oct 2 14:28:52 1997

Dear "Like to see my friends stick to their word" - I think that the Dome is the place for you. Stephen Alkins was playing the Prodigy in Melbourne - mind you he played Madonna's Burning Up in the same set. Are your friends going to JO to orgasm? If so, I'll be sure not to stand in the way, given the probable body temperature at the time, It's likely to stick in my hair all night.
Thu Oct 2 14:33:25 1997

Watch out for the Sleaze team from MPU !!
Queen Neptune - Thu Oct 2 15:44:38 1997

Sleaze peazzzze I'm going to corucopia
rockstar - Thu Oct 2 19:42:08 1997

Beautiful: Touche, darling! See you all there. Stay Horny!!
whalebone - Fri Oct 3 0:39:35 1997

Beautiful: Touche, darling! See you all there. Stay Horny!!
whalebone - Fri Oct 3 0:40:13 1997

We were out last night, flyering the bars with DO@1 cards ( I must say the response was very good, even people who knew nothing about it, were keen to say 'I'll be there'), when we ran into The Boys from Ffierce. They have suggested a 'rematch' in Kinselas @ 1pm. Could be good. I'll be there, and if my dick isn't already out I'll contemplate another go!
On the streets. - Fri Oct 3 8:02:53 1997

KC: I find it amazing that you would say, "Is it really that important whether the DJs play great music or music not to our taste?", and then have the gaul to say, "PS A note to the DJs in RHI - if you can't lip synch to it then don't play it " It just goes to show what a narrow minded and simplistic view you have towards all things that make a party. I, too wouldn't ' wouldn't miss it for quids', but at least I'm prepared to take the party on as an adventure for all the senses.
Fri Oct 3 9:04:30 1997

Wow! We made front page in the SSO, and there is a full page of all our comments. (Pity they left off the URL.) Anyway, I've been in Atlantis this week helping put up black plastic, and I can report it looks faaaaaaaabulous. They have even organised the lighting rig so the middle of the dance floor will be easy to find for DO@1. I'm sure Stephen Blomfield will assist also, and even the lighting people.
As to speculation about my costume, the thongs will not be on my feet as that is to dangerous and the stubbies are green.
Panther - Fri Oct 3 9:13:53 1997

I have emailed all my friends about DO@1 and I think we all should be doing the same. The more dicks out the better, maybe Bev will llisten to the majority of the members.
Fri Oct 3 12:56:19 1997

Re KC comment - I think KC is being misunderstood by the feedback comments. I suspect his initial comments are a little tongue in cheek . At one level the party is about music, lights, shows etc. But like KC I wouldn't miss it for quids. For Christ sake this party is unique in the world and hopefully we will all have the night of our lives (at least until the next one!!!). At the end though we all go back to our realities and are somehow enriched by our Sleaze experience.
darlo forever - Fri Oct 3 14:26:33 1997

One more sleep - if you can!!
Miss Whirly - Fri Oct 3 14:33:20 1997

I can't wait for Sleaze - I'm going to do my accessories up the bum for the first time. I'm shopping for an enema today!!!
Normally oral - Fri Oct 3 15:25:15 1997

darlo forever - I agree with you about KC's comments being tongue in cheek. S/he is obviously looking forward to having a simply stupendous time, no matter what. And this is surely the aim - no matter whether it's DO@1 or clits-out-on-tongues. At 1am I hope to be surrounded by lots of my friends, all with huge smiles on their faces, & lots of soon-to-be-friends all doing the same. Besides, I never notice much below about chest level anyway, it's always so packed. So if I find myself in the middle of DO@1 & do not do the same - forgive me, but I'm more interested in watching people dance & smile the night away than jiggling around in fresh (?) air what I have under my scales. Enjoy it, whatever & whoever you do!
Smiley - Fri Oct 3 16:01:40 1997

Dear normally oral, a couple of hints for sledging: don't ever tell anybody you've just done it, as they will forever watch where you put your finger (fist?) the rest of the night; it's a great way to avoid the stomach nausea as it comes on, but be prepared for the burning sensation (similar to a well-digested curry on its way through); & for god's sake don't fart within 15 minutes of applying it, otherwise you'll be on the floor looking for it!
Fresh fingers - Fri Oct 3 16:13:35 1997

Who's heard the Burn track? It's the dullest, and most drawn out track I've ever heard to be used in a Party Show. I'm going to be telling everyone to be there at 2am to see it so that there is heaps of room in the other halls for the likes of me who will be partying elsewhere.
I do love Tina, just not this song, sorry! - Fri Oct 3 18:58:02 1997

miss whirly :) its a bit like that aint it, well thanks to the one of the nicest guys (greg)in the world who has made this possible for me, (cos im broke) luv
Josh - Fri Oct 3 21:59:34 1997

could those DO @ 1 boys be the same guys that were against the name change from sydney gay mardi gras to sydney gay and lesbian mardi gras .......i wonder.......lastest SSO has a good letter from former prez richard.cobden you should read it boys........anyway have a good sleaze bruce
Sat Oct 4 7:16:36 1997

And just who is a DO@1 boys now? There were a few of us that helped facilitate getting it going, but our numbers(or is it members) are swelling. What is association of DO@1 and the change of name of Mardi Gras anyway. Again, DO@1 is not some sort of pollitical message, nor protest. It is simply an expression of sexuality, and most importantly, an expression of Sleaze, which is what this whole event, Sleaze Ball, is about, remember! As for Ricky Cobden's letter, I'll read it when I get a spare moment, probably next Wednesday, when I'll be really bitter and twisted.
Stomper.Mistress@pinkboard.com.au - Sat Oct 4 7:58:53 1997

DO@1 has become a reclaiming of the RHI as a sleazy space. It is not about excluding lesbians. Dykes are welcome to participate by flopping out whatever they feel is appropriate or even just shoving their tongues down each others throats. Those letters are refering to the "Boy Zone" proposal.
Now how about "Beat Boy" by the Bronski Beat for DO@1?
Panther - Sat Oct 4 8:50:28 1997

I think it's time to reveal a bit more about my outfit. It is actually a bit girly, but it does expose my beautiful body for all to admire. I'm not wearing stubbies and thongs. I'm wearing pearls. Yes. Just pearls.
See you at DO@1!
Panther - Sat Oct 4 8:55:09 1997

Whoever wrote that snide little quip in one of the fag rags about DO@1 *outside* the RHI as a protest about making it a men only space,*obviously* hasnt even visited this page or even read the Article in the Star. What a loser. DO@1 is about the Re-Queering of Sleaze and has nothing to do with a men only space. I suggest we write in to the said fag rag & flame the person who wrote the comment.
Avenging Angel Fish - Sat Oct 4 9:26:40 1997

So what's the problem with a boys zone ???sounds like the girls want to be more than equal by having their own space and that just creates resentment,somebody please give me a good argument to the contrary,and no dyke dogma please!!
daze1 - Sat Oct 4 10:08:29 1997

I heard Danni Minogue was going to appear in one of the shows! Is it true she was arrested for chasing the paparazzi?
Twinkle little Star - Sat Oct 4 10:15:39 1997

This is a warning. If I haven't found a boy friend by 8am in the RHI, I'm staying there till NYE. The security guards will have to drag me out screaming.
Desperate - Sat Oct 4 10:26:50 1997

I've got my ticket, done the gym thing, got a fake tan, waxed every inch of my body, got my accessories, got the gelatine capsules for the accessories, been to the hairdressers, the outfit is ready, my shoes have been shined, bought inner soles for the shoes, arranged meeting times and places with friends, practised dance steps.... I'm sure I've forgotten something !!!!
Can't wait - Sat Oct 4 10:35:10 1997

Can't wait: Have you packed a pair of socks to change into at 6am?
My best party advuce! - Sat Oct 4 15:13:28 1997

Desperate : If you still need a boyfriend @ 8am, just find me, I'll be the tall one with my dick still hanging out from the DO@1 performance. I may need a little guidance though. By 8am, you may need to lead me away by my dick.
Ra! Ra! Ra! F@cking Ra! - Sat Oct 4 15:17:33 1997

When I made that posting, I seem to have hit a nerve, what did I mean,what did I want, its simple. DO@1 is about reclaiming the party from straights, not gay friendly straights, but the idiots who can't cope with boys kissing boys, girls kissing girls etc, without some unwanted comment or sneer. Its to make a statement to these people, "this party is for lesbians and gays" like it, accept it, or leave! It is not about a mens only space, I don't see the need for one. I want parties where I can be as gay, camp, queeny, whatever as I want and not feel like I'm on show. To this end, see you all at the centre of the RHI at 1 am. Love to all
dicks out - Sat Oct 4 15:52:33 1997

Go Jayson- give it your best shot mate, congratulations for getting the opportunity of a lifetime. I hope all our queer community will revel in vibe between 2 and 5!
Peter and Garry xxx - Sat Oct 4 17:33:10 1997

Is it time to go yet, I'm all ready to party & it's only 8pm!!
fish fantasy - Sat Oct 4 20:00:00 1997

"dicks out" & "male to male" who live under the same roof are ready to go tooooooo!
one in the same - Sat Oct 4 20:05:49 1997

Panther, Now that I know what you're wearing... Is that a man dressed as a girl or a girl dressed as a man?
your loving friend - Sat Oct 4 20:50:31 1997

It is almost 11 o'clock and I still have the best hair of the night. So who the first Sleaze Ball Costume award
Gregsta - Sun Oct 5 10:44:59 1997

Now, I'm not usually one to gossip - but this one just HAS TO BE SAID!!! Which PWP (Prominent Wombat Person) lured a young man from the outskirts of the Horden Toilets throng to give him his first male to male sexual experience? . . . at his very first dance party? . . . after he was separated from his cousins who he arrived with? . . . who had all gone to the party to sprinkle the ashes from his brothers funeral flowers under the mirrow ball (cum mirror fish) in the Horden Pavillion???? This unnamed person will go straight to a place where there is great heat and much moaning and clouds of eucalyptus scented brimstone sting the eyes and where young men (and very attractive young men, I might add) claw at each other for relief! . . . but I'm not one to repeat gossip. :) P.S. By the way, I was very touched that this young man, having lost his family in the crowd, chose our little group to share a very personal moment. Maybe the spirit of the great dance party isn't dead after all. I think the lost brother is grinning from ear to ear at his eternal dance party in the sky.
Rocky - Sun Oct 5 13:42:26 1997

It's 4.30pm and I'm feeling very mellow....a great party in the RHI and Dome - Horden was tragic!!!! Great to see lots of sex of the dance floor - it sure added to the sleaziness of the event and got rid of some of those nervous het boys and their girlie friends! Should be more of it. The Dicks out at 1am didn't seem to work....but then at 1am I wasn't into noticing the finer details...just the general stur and blur...and those passionate lips and tongue which embraced mine for what seemed an eternity....unfortunately now lust in the crowd - but thanks anyhow to that hot guy. Love you all....
Sun Oct 5 16:40:46 1997

No wonder I didn't see Rocky - seems like he was occupied with his hands full - and don't tell fibs - you love to gossip! Don't we all, sweetie?
Sun Oct 5 16:44:05 1997

What does it take to get it through that thick MG Board - gay men want their own dance space. Why is this so difficult to organise?
Sun Oct 5 16:46:51 1997

DO@1 did work! RHI was our own dance space. (More when I recover a bit more.)
Panther - Sun Oct 5 20:04:45 1997

none of that shitty syrupy crap from the rhi for me dome was the place to be.....music was very twisted from a equally twisted dj steven alkins.......only bitch that it closed at 6 just when my e kicked in
loz - Mon Oct 6 8:05:23 1997

Mon Oct 6 16:14:43 1997

Does anyone know what the last track was that Steve Carley played in his fabulous set? And yes, the Dome was ffffierce - thankyou to everyone who groped and got groped - this is what it feels like when doves cry!!!!
Mon Oct 6 22:46:02 1997

I wish I kissed more pretty boys....I wish I hadn't lost my friends so early (precipitating an early come down and subsequent early retreat from the showgrounds at the tragic time of 5:30am).....I wish I knew all your names and you knew me because at about 3 a.m I wanted to talk to and love you all.....Thanx Elena and Katrina for being so fantastic (alas even though I only knew you for such a short time)....thank god for being gay and loving men..... Come Mardi gras I resolve to be bolder, get close to more people and share more sensory delights than ever before!!! I want to have "come up and say hello!!!!" written all over me.... I love you all!!!!!
Beauty is a curse because people only want to leer from afar...except the girls who don't do me much good do they! - Mon Oct 6 23:07:56 1997

P.S How do I shake that "when can i do it all again, my life is empty now" feeling?
Same good-looking boy as above who nobody wanted to talk to (probably because he couldn't shake the girls off) - Mon Oct 6 23:11:26 1997

Steve Carley's last track was Gat Decore's "passion", one of the all time great trance tracks. it was wound up early so that the show could start on time. After the show they played "dont rock the boat baby" by I can't remember then walk off track was "Octopuses Garden" by the Beatles.
fruitbuns - Tue Oct 7 14:14:17 1997

Jason Leahy, you Go girl! All doubts were splendidly cast aside by his fabby set, no matter where I roamed I always seemed to find myself back in the middle of the RHI, hologram sequins flying asunder as I twirled in the currents of love. I actually managed to covince myself that I was a bit of coral at one point.... How many sleeps till Mardi Gras
Endora Finn (Party Casualty) - Tue Oct 7 19:29:59 1997

can we have a rule that hets play by the rules that we have to play by when in their space. ie no f##king no sucking no kissing and even no hand holding. it confuses me when i look up and all i see is boy holding girls hands, it makes me wonder if i should be holding my boyfreinds hand. it is as if by holding hands they are taking my space (though a lot of them seemed very scared). and to the het couple with the torch in the men's only space (yes there is one, the horden toilets) go home! get a life! and never come back!
sailorboy - Tue Oct 7 19:44:06 1997

I think I have recovered enough to give a coherent report on the party. I had a faaaaaabulous time.

DO@1 did go off. There was even someone in a t-shirt and no pants right in the centre of the dance floor. I think people were a bit hesitant at the start, but then more and more dicks came out and people started enjoying each other. The dance floor was packed and much more sleazy than for ages.

There have been a number of comments that it didn't happen, but it seems none of these people were close enough to actually see.

The rest of the party was also great, well the stuff I saw. The closing show was "There's Got To Be A Morning After" and Shelly Winters was there swimming, but not singing. Tina Arena did Burn. Stephen Alkins did a great set, though I didn't catch enough of it.

See you all at Mardi Gras!
Panther - Tue Oct 7 19:45:05 1997

I must say, this Sleaze was one of the most better ones I've had in my few short years of gay life. It seems a lot more people participated in this year's theme of "Atlantis" than in past years' (then again, this years theme was more easier to plan for than last year's theme!) I must thank Gavin who held my hand (will i ever see you again ?) after a bit of an unfortunate start to the night, but things got better. Even thought I lost my little tribal gathering at some point in a bit of a chemically enhanced haze. The vibe in the RHI was enough to make me feel right at home amongst all those wonderful and delightfully cute boys. Jason Leahy was fabbie! (I'm actually listening to his Sleaze CD right now as I am at work, answering customer's mobile phone enquiries/gripes *i wish I was back at sleaze*....) As for DO@1, I'm afraid I was having too good a time to notice or even keep track of the time, but of those who took part, I hope it scared off enough of the Het girls (Spice girl wannabes WILD FM Temple clones!). Hopefully DO@1 might become a bit yearly thing and earn its place in Sleaze for years to come!!!! PS, why is it that when the party's over, the lights come on and the sea/obstacle course of water bottles comes in to view, the most unattractive man tries to attach himself to you in the hope you will take him home.... *sigh* P.S.S. Brent Nicholls at Stonewall recovery on Sunday night was just brilliant and a very hot and sweaty affair was had by all (just the way i like it), although personally I might think the Stonewall might want to invest in a bit of a spiffier lighting system...4 mini scans and some mirror balls only ?!?!?! Hope to see ya all the next big party and to all the locals see ya 'round making this summer the campest yet! Got to go back to work..as I have sold my soul to Hutchison's...
Peter the Feathered Sailorboy (Urb) - Tue Oct 7 23:08:59 1997

Oh loz...Stephen Alkins was more than just a little twisted wouldn't you agree?
Big Fan - Wed Oct 8 11:32:39 1997

Can anyone tell me who the main performer was in the third show? All I remember was a boy in a clam shell? Someone had told me that Dannii was doing the show before Tina & it was only halfway through the Burn number that I realised it was not Dannii gone brunette but Tina instead! How many times did she say she loved us - I think I lost count at three or four. Is Tina supposed to be an icon? Someone else told me she was going to come out to the whole party at the end of her number. Did I miss more?
Dazed & Confused - Wed Oct 8 17:08:04 1997

Oh for a male only space. When will it ever happen ............ To wade though the het bodies is oh so disgusting ... just to find an isalnd of lovely men!
am I the only one? - Wed Oct 8 17:38:17 1997

The Dome was the hall worth going to; the only hall where there was more men than women; the only hall that was actually sleaze; the only hall with good music. Does anybody know why the Dome has to close early?
more time in the dome please - Wed Oct 8 17:50:05 1997

Men only space pleeeeaaaaaase!!!!! I want to know I'm not getting soiled goods!
Partygoer concerned about everpresent and oppressive heterosexual males! - Wed Oct 8 20:34:04 1997

Please don't shove us into a small corner, get rid of those oppressive heterosexual males! Let's keep the RHI for ourselves and next time take the Horden too.
I was at DO@1 - Wed Oct 8 21:28:56 1997

I'm a RHI boy - I want to be centre court and not at some outer court. From what I have heard Dome sounded a lot of fun - unfortunately if I spent too much time there, I think I would become paranoid wondering what was happening in the 'main event'. I think it is great that it is possible to have such diverse venues all at the one party. I wonder what it will be like post Murdoch - let's hope the smaller venues with their individual atmospheres will continue to exist - I have my doubts.
Sydney sure knows how to party - Thu Oct 9 8:40:37 1997

hets, hets, hets... sleaze has sold it's soul. i'm tired of holding my ground on the dancefloor because some dominant bull male wants to stake his territory by mindlessly invading mine. they usually have several cute young guys with young girls in tow who have no respect for other peoples space and generally have fun at your expense. i'm for a men only space - but not some tiny backhall covered in black plastic. the party used to be a celebration of sexuality and individuality within out community but now your lucky to run into anyone unless you constantly cruise around or fight your way thru the dancefloor. the motivation for the party now is all wrong wrong wrong. the powers that be are chasing god dollar and that is being manifest in parties of late...any wonder people are left with an empty feeling after the party...no soul...several years ago you used to be able to carry the feeling home with you into everyday life. You really felt part of something bigger than yourself. don't get me wrong, i had a good time but in the end it was all so much froth and bubble. what's happened to the wine??
community divided - Thu Oct 9 10:23:13 1997

Correct me if I'm wrong, but the majority of people don't want a men only space. Instead they seem to want a Gay only space. To be honest this would be nice but short of having sexuality tests at the entrance there is little we can do to make such a space. I personally would avoid a male only space (i'm male) as One of the best parts of the big party's for me is having the chance to interact with lesbians. I rarely get this chance on Oxford street because lets face it, besides our sexuality gay guys & girls have'nt really got that much in common (men are fom mars etc). The only solution to the straight attitude problem (i dont think its the sexuality but more the culture thats the problem) that I can think of is to cancel all mardi gras memberships & start again from scratch. the MG board could nominate 5 people for membership each & those 5 could nominate 5 etc. This would give us the chance to make sure that most members are gay or lesbian. At the moment it seems that a fair portion of members are straight minded people who just want to get tickets for their friends. Anyway I'm starting to rant now, you get the picture, tough problems require tough solutions, which we don't seem to have at the moment.... I think we need less bitching & more relistic & constuctive suggestions
Miss Hissy Fit - Thu Oct 9 10:39:14 1997

Listen Miss Hissy Fit - how do you know what the majority want!!! All I hear all the time is that gay men want their own space, gay Men and Men only.....I sick of being pc all the time!!! just to accommodate women - Why then do woman have their own space and yet year after year we Men are denied it????? So there!
Outraged deprived male space cadet - Thu Oct 9 11:12:23 1997

clitorissima & the Dome rocked. to all those who missed Sveta, she went off. on the otherhand, the horden was tragic, although i cant seriously complain, i too invited some striaght friends and although they were fun to party with, i have vowed not to invite them next time simply because they're not gay/lesbian. kate munroe also went off at 'the other side' at kinselas on sunday night, she really knows how to get a girl pumping! i hope everyone had a great time, i know i did strolling down the stage in the ss titanic! ps Q: who were the DJs in the Dome?
Poppy - Thu Oct 9 13:09:58 1997

Dear Blah Blah Space Cadet, I guess people can only draw from their own experiences, By the majority I mean the majority of people who I have talked to about the party & the opinions they have passed on to me from people they have spoken to. By the sound of the way you think about women it's no suprise all you hear is 'Men Only', when was the last time you actually talked to a woman? If it really means that much to you then perhaps you should have the Horden as a 'men' (ha ha) only space. Its a suitably tragic setting for your hysterically misoginyst attitude. What are you so afraid of? Women have their own space because they need one (how many times have you been sexually harassed by a straight girl?) It's a well know fact that the most popular hetro male fantasy is to watch 2 girls having sex. You should have your own space to simply to spare the more well adjusted people from having to listen to your pitifully outdated whining. If you don't like all the straight minded people at the party's then do something constructive about it. Do you really want to turn our partys into segregated litlle gatherings based on genetalia. It saddens me that there is a women only space which I can't access but it saddens me more that we should even need one in the first place. Mardi Gras & Sleaze Ball are the perfect opportunities for the gay & lesbian people of the world to party together in safety, the fact that the reality of the situation is different is basically our own fault. If we really don't like the way things are happening then why don't we change them, democratically.
Miss Hissy Fit - Thu Oct 9 15:14:24 1997

Miss hissy fit: Your solution of starting memberships from scratch is as ill informed as it is impractical. What better way to exclude large no.s of the GAY community who may not be as well connected as others...i.e tickets will be alloted on a "who knows who" basis rather than a "who's doing who" basis(or sexuality based). As exclusionist as it may seem, a mens' only space seems to be the only solution....maybe the horden? Much as I love straight girls, I can't handle their straight bfs who inevitably come in bristling with attitude (yet lapping up the attention that some of our misguided brothers heap on them....lets face it, you can't deny the allure of a gorgeous straight boy!). A male only space would certainly leave them out in the cold and leave us to experience the empowering solidarity of 100% pure queer!!!
manlover - Thu Oct 9 16:03:10 1997

Dear Manlover, I agree it is impractical, but it's the only alternative to a male only space hich my drug addled brain can come up with at the moment. All I want is to be able to go to a party at which the vast majority of paeople are Queer & the very few people who are'nt queer blend in un-noticably with the throng. Can anyone come up with a pracical was to make this happen? I certainly can't :( The members based ticket disribution we currently have does not work, either because many members are naff straights or because many queer members don't give a shit who they sell their tickets to. Sigh! Maybe a men only space will provide a band aid soltion, However the RHI will probably end up 95% straight. That would mean they would get to see all the big shows while the queens & Dykes are hidden away in seclution elsewhere
Miss Hissy Fit - Thu Oct 9 16:19:35 1997

Miss Hissy Fit - you do have a temper darling and make such wild and uncalled for assumptions about me. You are wrong on every assumption you have made about me and what I said above. I appreciate people (all genders) for what they are. There are some occasions however when it is right for same identified gendered people to be together. A gay and lesbian dance party is one of them. There is a particular energy which develops when gay men are together with each other (without hets and females). I assume that is the case with lesbians as well. And believe me lesbians are not the only people to be harrassed - gay men cop heaps too. Anyhow lets take a straw poll on this....let's see how many Pinkboard Sleaze 97 readers want to state their preference on this issue here. I for one want to be counted as a gay man (and a coalitionist - not separatist) who wants just one male only space at future gay and lesbian parties.
Outraged deprived male space cadet - Thu Oct 9 16:48:10 1997

Not all the dykes like to spend the whole night in the Carousel - most of my dyke friends dance all night in the Hordern which is pretty horrific but they like the music there & that's where they always go. Other dykes I know prefer the RHI. I dont know any who spend all their time in the girl bar. Most just go there to have a look & then get back to the "better " spaces elsewhere but at least it's there as a security blanket. If the Hordern goes boys-only then all these dykes will be forced into the overwhelmingly straight RHI to mix with the agro het boys, which is why we have the girl bar in the first place, so then they will stay in the Carousel & miss the shows, & we will have completely segregated dance halls with the occupants having varying levels of enjoyment & participation in our supposedly coalitionist community. You can bet that dyke attendance will drop off, het attendance will rise (wow - their own dance space!) & gay aparteid will be back! Who really wants this?
Dyke-friendly Fag - Thu Oct 9 18:02:26 1997

Yes lets have a male only space, and a female only space, and in the process abandon the rest of the party to the straights, you stupid FU?KS
dicks out - Thu Oct 9 18:10:47 1997

I agree that it would be a good thing to have a "predominantly gay male" space at the parties in the same way there is a "predominantly lesbian" space. I would also like to see more of the practical reasons why there shouldn't be one. The arguements that make some sense are that it could encourage misogyny, that there is no medium-sized hall right for the part , that it could destroy the coalitionist nature of the parties, everyone could want their own space (eg a predominantly bi area) and that it might mean that the greater part of the parties would be "abandoned" to straight people, (but how could Sleaze have been any straighter?) Gay men can be oppressed by straight men and yes, women - straight women oppress gay men and lesbians just by assuming they can attend our parties, so that they're not really "ours" any more. I feel it's still worth trying a "predominantly gay men's space" again with a smaller dance hall - there would be freedom of choice for gay men to spend as much or as little time in the "predominantly gay men's space" as they wanted, just as lesbians can with their space. I'd probably spend some time there, but not most of the night. Enough gay men want to be free to express and develop aspects our own subculture, and while the need for our own space may not be the same sort of need lesbian women have, it is still a valid need. It should be a positive thing, not seen as just a negative, excluding idea. Mardi Gras does seem to try and please as many of its members as possible - we have things that celebrate many aspects of gay and lesbian life, like the drag bar, variety of music types, parade floats, varied party themes etc. A predominantly gay mens party space should be trialled in the same spirit of freedom of choice and of fostering healthy diversity. And oh yeah - I did have a great Sleaze, thanks!
Fast love (a lot slower and long-winded now) - Thu Oct 9 18:22:11 1997

Desparate, did you have your passport ready? Did you find your wealthy American? I Heard Barry did.
A Wealthy American - Thu Oct 9 18:28:53 1997

I met plenty of straight boys and found them very receptive to my "touch" of class (if you know what I mean). Have you ever tried engaging a het boy in conversation and eventually just stand in front of the girl (kind of blocking her out). You'd be surprised at the results. Oh yeah what ever happened to the straight guy in RHI with the date with the accent who we couldn't get rid of. Did he ever get his pants off? He was dying to be with the boys.... and did anyone else meet Dolly & Mark?.. or do we only meet these not too straight straights!
It's nice to see committment - Thu Oct 9 18:41:06 1997

Dear Fruitbuns, let me taste your raisins- but your E must have been better than mine, because there was at least 5 tracks after Gat Decor's Passion, including Grace "Skin on Skin" and the Funky Green Dogs "All Fired Up". Does aaaaanybody know what the track after All Fired Up was - that was the track before the last show. PS All this argument about the male only space is just attitude - the Dome was a male only space and I have never had such a sleazy time in all of my life (Iguess the harness helped). Give me flesh on flesh anyday. PPS But what was that last song???????????
I need to have it. - Thu Oct 9 21:49:28 1997

If you were in the Hordern at any time of the night - you would know that straights now have their own space. Why can't gay men also have their own space? This is not misogynist -but I can't think of another solution where I am not going to be shoved by Spice Girls all night.
Thu Oct 9 21:52:10 1997

I need to have it: Can you hum a bit of it? Maybe we'll remember it then.
Panther - Thu Oct 9 21:57:15 1997

RHI was a wonderful mixed space with plenty of happenings. On the outside edges there were the straights doing their thing but the further you got into the centre - wow, it was fun-land for us gays. Horden - straigth space!!!!. Dome - boys land with some very very cute happenings - yep and ladies doing their thing also (good to see). However we (b/f & a couple of others) all felt that the Sleaze Ball was nothing but a preliminary to the recoveries - and they were hot. Congratulations to FFierce for their party at Kinsellas. - hingy plus on the top floor and didn't it go off!!!!. Midnight Shift sunday nite was as good if not better than the Ball. If only we could do this every week, but work gets in the way. We enjoyed the whole weekend but have serious considerations as to whether we should bother with Sleaze next year and just attend the recoveries - certainly would save some money. DO@1 - too drug f**ked to remember it but there was action happening everywhere. CU at Pride/Mardigras.
The limegreen one. - Fri Oct 10 8:59:46 1997

i agree limegreen one that recoveries are the way to go next year. wished i hadn't gone straight to recoveries ( don't take that the wrong way!) all day as i faded out @ 9pm and missed, by all accounts, one of the wildest nights ever at the shift. bummer!
next year! - Fri Oct 10 11:56:03 1997

Why are there always security guards on the womens toiletsto keep men out but Never guards on the mens toilets to keep women out - blatant discrimination
bush man - Fri Oct 10 13:17:28 1997

Guys, are you sure the people you thought were hetero really were? I for one am as queer as anyone, but on this particular night I danced almost exclusively with girls, didn't kiss one boy and generally had a fantastic time....it just seemed like the right thing to do at the time. Maybe as a sleaze virgin I didn't really understand the anything goes attitude until too late (regrettably) and because you all thought I was straight no-one bothered to approach me except for pinching me on the ass, or complimenting me as you went past.......in fact the most meaningful "gay" encounter I had all night was a drug fu?ked conversation with an 8ft tall drag queen. Maybe if we all dropped our guard a little more where hetero's are concerned you might discover that you judged a little hastily.....? (then again, I pledge to kiss every cute guy I can at mardi gras now I'm over my shyness and understand how the cookie crumbles!). I guess my point really is don't be afraid to approach people on the basis of a hasty judgement about their sexuality...they might just be a bit shy like me and find girls a bit "safer" and less threatening.
Very recently reformed shy boy - Fri Oct 10 14:33:37 1997

so much to say since so little time! why is it that almost everyone only wants to whinge after our parties? yes, there were lots of straights there, yes there were lots of us there, but this time around my impression is that we were all a little kinder and gentler to each other.There'll always be the shits, straight and gay, but most partygoers were happy smiling faces and aggression seemed way down on previous sleaze balls. The girls still need their space, we can continue to have the straight boys downstairs and the hopeless straight babes can be ignored by us all! And ultimately sleaze funds what is increasingly a very gay and lesbian event - the mardi gras party. Does it really matter if some straight dollars at one party give us our space at another? (probably will to some, but what can you do? chill out people) 'nuff said. Stephen Allkins is again at the top of my favourite DJ list -he was in genius mode in the Dome. The Shift on Sunday night kept up the same. To Glen outside the Dome, to the rubbing man inside the Dome, to the boy with green hair - especially to the boy with green hair - and to Owen the next night, thanx! Now to hallowen hell, pride and mardi gras (Diana Ross please) and a summer of fun. Stop the whinging y'all.
Pluto's Boy - Fri Oct 10 14:49:16 1997

Pather, If I was humming it, it would go hmmm hmmm hmmm don't let go again, its your life, hmmmm, hmmm, hmmmm - most of the hmmms were spent wrapped around my boyfriend. I've still got to have it - it was my musical highlight (very closely followed by Steven Alkins playing When Doves Cry!). Where does Steven Carley live when he's not in the DJ booth - based on what he played it's somewhere very beautiful
I've still got to have it - Fri Oct 10 18:29:53 1997

Try this on for one minute!! Read over the last say 20 messages on this site and replace the word gay with the word hetro,I tried it and i came up with a group of small minded,hateful,selfserving exclusionists,the dykes want to paint all hetros as sex mad rapists yobbos that want to hit on them and most others have a repugnance for straight people showing affection or simply being in their presents.does anyone see a pattern here???these sort of generalisations have been made about gays for centurys,thankfully we can look back and put them down to ignorance,don't be a victim of that same ignorance,there's a whole world out there and it's predominantly straight like it or not,and we've all gotta get on,so next time you see a straight person at a party think of that person as friendly ,openminded and excepting and they just may think the same about you right back!!I'm stepping down from my milk crate now ,oh ! I had a fabulous time at the party and i think the straight boys are great to look at!!!
Dave gayboy!! - Sat Oct 11 0:14:38 1997

hello panther and everyone recovering from sleaze in Sydney. I'm having a much more sleazy time here in Bangkok. Pity the MG Committee put so little effort into the party. Well at least from the $70 we paid they still have $55 left over to fund a festival... it better be good.
cumrat - Sun Oct 12 0:23:22 1997

Very recently reformed shy boy & Dave gayboy!! really you must have met different straight people to us... we were run down by a couple holding hands for grim life when we happened to be between them. not to mention the straight couple in the horden toilets with the torch? or the girles with the long hair and cigarettes waving so close to my face to make dancing impossible without injury? i really don't care how many hetros come to our parties, but i just don't want to notice them! I don't want a boys only space i just want more gay friendly hets. those who are respectful of our communitiy, that i know were unnoticeable.
Sailorboy - Sun Oct 12 9:22:20 1997

I have the solution - why doesn't Sydney Gay and Lesbian Mardi Gras put on Sleaze (a party for straights). It's time some enterprising lesbian or gay man organised a gay and lesbian event.
Sun Oct 12 11:32:55 1997

To the guy who wore the fake fur, black and white cow hide trousers....again. You can wear them any old time I'm around baby. You were hot, hot, hot!!! I could have chewed on those nipples until the cows came home. Sorry we didn't get to share that last dance but I'll be back in the RHI, same place, same time at Mardi Gras. I'm going as a clump of grass so you can feed off me all night long.
johnny stash - Sun Oct 12 18:19:09 1997

Going out on a limb here - but what the hell ! I (as an honest-to-goodness straight, white male) wish to offer my sincere gratitude and love to all at Sleaze - I find the debate interesting about male-only, gay only etc spaces - I tend to agree that there appear to be a fair share of gawking heteros, but I really enjoy my large circle of gay and lesbian friends, and this is one of the only times a year I can truly share their joy at their sexuality, and I never want to be excluded from that. I had a wonderful time, and I hoope my presence didnt offend anyone - but isnt pride in yourself about being able to enjoy yourself with others - despite their sexuality, race or gender ? I was proud to have gay friends - I was proud to be there with them - I was proud to be somewhere that they could freely express their love. I wonder if there are more hets like me at these festivals ?
papaLegba - Tue Oct 14 23:07:42 1997

papaLegba - yes there are. No one seems to be arguing for an *exclusively* g&l event. Only you can really say how "involved" in the g&l community you are. But there seems almost to be more (yes, often wonderful, friendly) straight people like you at the Sydney Gay and Lesbian Sleaze Ball now than there are gay men and lesbians. I think there is a profound problem with that. When do the parties cease belonging to the g&l community - where is the "line" drawn? I think that's what MG is continually grappling with. We do need our own space in a straight world (where we do our best to enjoy ourselves with everyone all the other days of the year...)
Fast love. - Wed Oct 15 16:22:30 1997

Just imagine Bette Midler as Delores DeLargo The Toast Of Chichago and the infamous DeLargo sisters, performing Delores's 12 strokes to satisfaction. Now that would be something to behold. But is Bette to campy for the straights? Great idea let the straights have their own Sleaze and Mardi Gras, Queens and Dykes are over the Barbie and Ken doll attitude not to mention the smell of steroids.
Fri Oct 17 14:17:09 1997

First Mardi Gras Show rumour !!!! Kyle has apparantly already signed a contract & Elton John looks promising
Endora Finn - Sat Oct 18 19:59:09 1997

Lets have some suggestions for a theme for next years Sleaze. I think "Gay and Lesbian" could be a good one.
Panther - Sat Oct 18 22:07:36 1997

PapaLegba: your respect and participation in our gay celebration is appreciatied. It is as you say one of the few occasions where the gay & lesbian community should be able to rejoice and indulge in our sexual orientation. It is a time where we should feel free from the oppression and bigotry that we endure every other day of the year. The issue is not the presence of heterosexuals at our party (...and let's not forget this, it IS our party isn't it?) but the attitude, behaviour and disrespect that many heterosexuals seem compelled to display that is offensive. Let us be clear about what we will tolerate and what we will not tolerate at a gay & lesbian party. What do the signs declaring "This is a gay and lesbian celebration, not sexual liberation" mean? Let's have a more diligent security presence that can stop a man groping at lesbians, keep girls (& bf in two) out of the mens toilet, warn straight couples who intimidate us. It may seem draconian, authoritarian, but offenders should be shown the gate, ticket number registered and the membership suspended. We have a responsibility to ensure that if we do invite our straight friends we choose wisely.
Sailorboy - Sun Oct 19 10:06:47 1997

Well after reading through the last letters it seems people are not happy with the way OUR parties are developing. It seems now that we have to be careful at what we do, when you see statements like - " they seemed friendly (str8s)" what are people saying. Why do we worry about what they think. This is our party, its Gay and Lesbian. All this shit about how nice they are at our parties. What an insult to us. We don`t have to worry what they think. We are gradually being pushed into a corner, bit by bit our parties are being taken over. I don`t think it was a friendly str8 crowd, it was quite agro, but then myself and a group of gay mates wont be pushed around. For those of you who think otherwise, why dont you ask the MG Party comittee about some of the problems at the party. You Didn`t hear.....A proper weapons check at the front gates would be nice. I hope security reported back to head office..... Forget the rubbish about US being well accepted, If you spend your life at the "Top End" of Oxford Street you might think that we live in a Gay / Lesbian world. Unfortunately, our world is now a reducing place, the str8s having moved into the lower end venues. To all those Gays ( I dont think the Girls are that silly ) who think str8s at our parties are "Just Fine" try taking your boyfriend and get friendly at say Maroubra or Para` or Bankstown or North Sydney or...........and see how long you survive. These parties are OUR parties, if they continue down the present path, we can expect some real problems, and that will destroy them.
Tony - Space Bear - Sat Oct 25 1:17:27 1997

Theme for sleaze'98 ? My choice is grunge
fruitbuns - Mon Oct 27 17:50:53 1997

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