Sleaze Ball is is almost upon us again. (Wasn't it Mardi Gras just yesterday?) This year it is a dark, sexy and gothic tale of circus, lust and whimsy.
What's your speciality? Are you good at tricks? Are you a trainer ready take on animals of all shapes and sizes? Have you got things twirling around your fingers? Can you fly? Are you all muscle with a six pack to die for? Do you prefer to make people laugh? Are you ready to take control of all three rings?
See you all under the big top hat on Saturday 29 September.
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The real countdown now begins.....
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I am so excited! what a great theme!
Hey whats everyone going to wear??
Does anyone know if there will be a costume parade of some sort??
I hope they have some dark awry entertainment that is just wrong but so right!
I do hope NMG really twist it up for us.
i would love to see some action.
only 60 days to go!
see you all at the Zirkus!
"We’ve had our ears to the ground so that we can give you the scoop on the second biggest party of the year – Sleaze Ball.
In what is a first for Sleaze, DJs on the night will go back to back to back. That means three DJs will be pitted against each other for what is likely to be one unforgettable set.
So far confirmed – Alex Taylor versus Kate Monroe versus Jayson Forbes. More to be announced shortly. Stay tuned to Same Same for more updates."
Yes, good to see some new blood in the line-up. Hope that means we'll be hearing some fresh sounds. Also, is it just the house djs who are doing back-to-back-to-back? Or is this for all djs?
Willkommen! Bienvenue! Welcome! Sleaze Ball 2007 presents Zirkus, our most spectacular party yet.
Buy your tickets online at Ticketek! Or visit our Myspace page!
While the world falls apart around us, there is only one possible rational response - run away to the Zirkus. From the traditional to the twisted - you will find ringmasters, clowns, lions with their tamers, contortionists, strongmen, beards, naked ladies. You know the score - the woodwork squeaks and out come the freaks! Mix them all in with the heady atmosphere of Weimar Berlin and you have a uniquely Sleaze experience. Decadence without limitation and uncompromising sensuality oozing from every beautiful pore.
As well as a top-notch line-up of entertainers to be announced soon, you will be kept dancing till dawn by some of Australia's very best DJs: Rob Davis, Feisty, Jayson Forbes, Kitty Glitter, Tim Graham, Murray Hood, GI Jode, Kate Monroe, Neroli, Pete Newton, Justin Scott, Steve Sonius and Alex Taylor.
It's no good sitting alone in your room. Come here the music play!
Hordern, Dome & Forum
29th September 2007
10pm to 8am
1st release tickets - $55 ($79 non-members)
2nd release tickets - $99 (£119 non-members)
Concession tickets - $79
One member's ticket per member.
Buy your ticket at any Ticketek outlet, on 13 2849 or online at Ticketek
How very f**king exciting! Woohoo! Can't wait, can't wait, can't wait! Something new and exciting and different and covering a wide range of musical styles and tastes. And ticket prices - Amazingly cheap! Go Mardi Gras! I'm pretty sure we've got an awesome party to look forward to and I for one am stoked! :D
Currently listening to: Reasons to Forgive - Kirsty Hawkshaw &Tenishia
Tim Graham played at the last Mardi Gras party... the bio from the Mardi Gras website back then stated "Tim Graham has been spinning discs for two years, gathering the majority of his experience DJ’ing for Gay Games Fundraiser and small private parties. Tim will take partygoers on a journey through both non vocal driving trance to vocal uplifting trance"
I don't know - is it a good line up or not? It's the most puzzling line up that I've ever come across. Assuming that Rob Davis, Feisty & Steve Sonius are in the Dome - maybe one other? But Rob Davis could just as easily be in the Hordern (as per last year) except that I can't work out who he would he be b2b with? Hope that Feisty is in the middle for a bit of grungy energy. Certainly not an equivalent line up to last year's Dome dream team. Combination of trance and house in the Hordern? Hope that there's a lot of people in Sydney who are open minded to hearing both on the night. I'm not sure I get all this b2b work - someone appears to be a fan of it . First Get Together and now Sleaze. Best of luck to everybody and I sincerely hope it works on the night.
i think robs opening the dome, which leaves feisty or steve for the middle and last sets. I agree, the B2B2B threesome is going to be very disjointed. I am certainly no fan and it seems like a silly gimmick to me. that just my oppinion though.
tim graham was running the nmg parties a few years ago this is definately jobs for the boys considering he has very little dj experience and no dance party experience in sydney how can a DJ with little dj experience get selected over another trance DJs like Ruby or Josh or Stephen Simpson or scott anderson and so on
"Tim Graham has been spinning discs for two years, gathering the majority of his experience DJ’ing for Gay Games Fundraiser and small private parties."
Wow a whole 2 years of doing small private parties! What a slap in the face for those DJ's who have been playing major clubs for years both locally and internationally.
Congrats to Tim but the organisers should be ashamed of themselves.
Yes indeed. I've also heard about some rather unusual information regarding Tim Graham's selection. It seems odd that he be selected in the main room at Sleaze based on only one DJ spot at Mardi Gras in the so called "up and coming" space and also due to the fact that the guy holds no DJ residencies ANYWHERE on the gay scene.
All this on the back of the fact that he was one of the head guys on the NMG dj and party working group up until earlier this year. I'm doing some fact gathering today with some sources close to NMG and will report back with more info soon.
Sleaze has NEVER had an exclusive selection of DJ who play this so called "sexy / dirty /Sleazy music". Sure Sleaze isnt as commercial as Mardi Gras but its never been 100% dirty music. You gotta cater to more than just one genre if you want the party to sell. Surely thats just common sense.
You want dirty - fine , enjoy Rob Davis, Feisty & Steve Sonius , they'll be right up your alley. The other DJ's will more than adequately cater to the rest thank you very much.
Oh , one more thing. To show that NMG isnt "Camping Up" Sleaze this year - TAKE NOTE - There is NO retro space this year at Sleaze. Stage 11's DJ's apparently have been asked to play what would normally be allocated for the RHI - ie Commercial and Hangbag Music.
As for me , well I'm not being catered to , so I wont be going. I'm sure Retro will be back on the bill for the 30th Anniversary party on March 1
scott anderson would have been a perfect trance dj for sleaze. new, fresh non girly trance. i agree, a shame trance djs such as him (who is a resident dj at beyond of all parties!) are not selected. how about mark alsop? another dj who plays at manacle and inqusition and has built a following over many years as a dj playing dirty house to a leahter crwod - also over looked.
who ever is putting these lineups together has a very limited idea of djs available - both in sydney and further afield - to the detriment of the party - imho.
Tim Graham plays trance music well. He is a classical composer as well as massive trance lover. i think he is the best new blood in the scene and you´ll be surprised and happy to hear him.
unfortunately, the undersground djs, excepting feisty and steve are a bit of a loss.
as for B2B, funny how people think they have a clue. some djs are good at it, some are not. blanket rules are not really very good places to start criticisms when referring to music.
one of the best sets i ever saw was GROOVE ARMADA djing at Sublime on Pitt St around the time of I SEE YOU BABY´s release..... one track from Andy... wow, the next from Tom, bugger, he topped him.... over and over until we all hurt our jaws form smiling and ruined our dancing shoes that were guaranteed to last longer by the nice people at foot locker
feisty and mandy rollins ALWAYS deliver together. lanny k and miss yetti are a well established duo. be a bit ABBA and take a chance.... you might like something new
so what if a dj has sex or even loves another dj. you are doing an AD HOMINEM attack. an attack on the person. attack the substance! or is this the liberal/labour homepage?
as for tim getting a go in the main room, and comparing him to "experienced djs like ruby, stephen simpson" et al... maybe he is GOOD. maybe the other djs you speak of are not as talented. some people simply make an impact quickly, because they are talented! and correct me please, but weren´t 2 of the djs you mentioned also a couple!
i am not playing in this party, but i am happy tim is. he is a musician, dedicated to his classical side possibly longer than trance music has existed, a long time volunteer of MG, and a good guy with skills. what do you have to do in this town? win a nobel prize for trance music?
Interesting comments about Mark Alsop and Inquisition.
Last year at INQ the 4 DJ's who played in Stage 11 - Justin Scott, Shanobear, Mark Alsop & Ryan Murphy - all missed out on Sleaze 2006.
This year it's the same story with almost the exact line up of DJ's being overlooked. In the main tent this year at INQ were Shanobear, Mark Alsop, Sveta & Ryan Murphy and all missed out again.
Obviously Shano, Mark and Ryan have upset someone along the way.
Yegads, it's a PARTY people! I'm sorry for the DJs who missed out, but go along, catch up with old friends, make some new friends, have some FUN! Sleaze is around once a year, make the most of it before all the constant whining and sniping kills it for good.
Tim Graham doesnt have ANY regular work as a DJ anywhere in Sydney. As far as i know he has played one night at Arq on a slow Friday and hasnt played anywhere (not even once) in any of the other gay clubs & bars in Sydney.
How does one get to be chosen in the biggest and most popular space at Sleaze Ball when the party working group dont have a chance to hear him play "live" anywhere ?
The only answer to this question is that he must have been chosen based on the friendships he built up with others on the party working group during his time on this committee.
A DJ needs to do his dues as a DJ to be rewarded with a selection to one of the biggest gay parties of the year. To be selected in the manner in which he has is a huge kick in the teeth to all the hard working guys and gals who DJ night after night , month after month , year after year out there in the gay club circuit.
It's disgusting. I think everyone involved in this DJ selection should be immediately sent back to school and learn what good and proper morals are all about.
I don't care how good or bad he is as a DJ. He just hasn't done his dues.... yet.
"Wow a whole 2 years of doing small private parties! What a slap in the face for those DJ's who have been playing major clubs for years both locally and internationally"
Surely its about talent not about how long you have been Dj'ing for! Tim played the last Mardi Gras party for godsake and was brilliant!
Tim has played around town for years. If you wish to have an opinion, without the balls to sign your name attacking a human being, then I feel very, very sorry for you. If you want to make a reasonable comment about the selection process of the DJs, then do... Attacking Tim personally or any other DJ because they were selectively chosen is not reasonable and should not be heard on this wall.
There is no disputing that fact. We all wanna see new DJ's come thru the system.
I'm excited by the selection of Murray Hood at Sleaze. A new DJ whose busted his hump working residencies around Oxford Street for the last few years. Sleaze will be his first full on DJ gig for NMG ** - I APPLAUD this selection.
Footnote ** I dont count Murray's performance in that up and coming tent he did 2 years back as the selection process for up and coming is different to DJ's for the main halls
Getting back to new talent DJ's - I think everyone just wants to see them come thru a FAIR system and not have a stench of nepotism lingering around the manner in which they were selected (i know you agree, dont you Noisy Gypsy).It also helps to make the DJ selection look semi fair if you have actually held down REGULAR week in week out DJ work on the scene - which Tim Graham has not despite Noisy Gypsy's claim the contray.
Fair go - give Tim a break for Christ's sake. Half of you whinge when there is trance and then where there IS trance, and it's going to be presented by a new DJ, you still piss and moan. Whatsupwiththat? All of this complaining and moaning on the party wall about old trance - and we get a new-ish trance DJ, and you lot still complain? No pleasing.
Good on Tim, I say. He kicked butt in the trance room at the last Homesexual party. He was great and I'm happy he's in the line up. Why do you people think it all has to be about the DJ's that have been around for yonks? Clearly the Sleaze team were looking for trance DJ's and found something in Tim that they liked. They WEREN'T looking for house/retro/etc DJ's. If any of you should complain, it should be that other trance DJ's who have been around for ages weren't chosen - not because your favourite electro/techno/whatever DJ wasn't.
Come on everyone, isn't it time to back off a bit? Instead of trying to tear down certain DJ's, we should be congratulating them instead.
Having put together a few parties over the last couple of years myself, I can tell you now by far the hardest part is selecting the DJ's.
Sydney has a huge number of talented DJ's to choose from, all equally deserving as each other and all capable of playing at the highest standard.
I personally think the DJ line up is bold and innovative. I'm very excited to see a number of my friends selected and equally excited to see some new names on the bill.
If you don't agree with particular DJ's being selected or if there's certain DJ's you think should have been there, write to NMG instead of airing your complaints in public on a forum not connected with NMG.
It's an exciting time for everyone who has been selected and they should be patted on the back instead of beinging singled out for critisism.
"If you don't agree with particular DJ's being selected or if there's certain DJ's you think should have been there, write to NMG"
Oh Shanobear, What a naive thing to say.
From my experiences history shows (and for proof you only have to scroll back thru page after page on this forum) that NMG quite often chooes to ignore letters , emails and phone calls when they are being critisised. In fact there's a strong history of critical feedback to NMG not even being replied to. In my opinion they have this "we are above critisism" mentality. Sort of like the Vatican. This is why people bring their beefs to pinkboard, And there's absolutely nothing wrong with it either.
If you choose to be a DJ then the reality is that you have chosen to do something in the public spotlight.
Just like our sports people , politicians , and TV and movie personalities a DJ too is somebody who is vunerable to public aclaim as well as public critisisms.
The old saying never rang so true - If you cant take the heat , then get out of the kitchen.
*One member's ticket per member* how about the Members Area?
1st release tickets - $55 fantastic ($79 non-members) our partners will have to sign up
2nd release tickets - $99 (£119 non-members) lucky the Aussie dollar is high
Concession tickets - $79
*One member's ticket per member*
I know $55 is great value, but it's been for many years 2 tickets for the same amount.
The different pricing strategy isn't good or bad but how will it work for the Members Area admission?
What Members Area? (pretty please, we like it up there)
members area is apparently still happening upstairs in the forum i guess members will get an additional pass for a friend or partner to get access? can anyone from nmg confirm? we all know you read this board how about some info
Arti - Sat 4 Aug 2007 18:56:18 - "No one at the AGM asked questions about the DJ selection process"
True. Thats because the AGM was held BEFORE the Dj's were announced. Derr !
Arti - Sat 4 Aug 2007 18:56:18 - "No one mentioned that emails are not answered (at the AGM)"
True. maybe the people raising this issue on pinkboard aren't NMG members. It's not compulsory to be a member of NMG to have an interest in NMG activities last time I checked.
I am VERY happy to see a new-ish trance DJ on the line-up for Sleaze. Yes, there have been quite a few people (me included) who have been moaning about how most of the established trance DJs on the scene seem to be quite happy to spin mostly old trance classics in their sets. I'm all for giving the young blood a chance to blow us away with some fresh new music. I haven't yet heard Tim Graham spin, but I've heard a lot of good feedback from a few people who have. So, I'd say give the guy a chance to show us what he can do before releasing the hounds on him.
As for the comments above about Tim Graham not having a regular weekly DJ gig. Maybe someone would like to tell me where the regular trance night on the Sydney scene is at the moment? That's right, there ISN'T one! In fact, there is not even a regular 3-4 hr set on one dancefloor in one venue on one night of the week which is dedicated to trance (or prog trance), as far as I'm aware (since Luke Leal rarely plays trance in his sets these days). I have been to all of the major venues in recent months and, if you are lucky, you might hear maybe a couple of tracks that venture into trance territory over the course of a night. That leaves only occasional boutique events on the scene, such as Homesexual, Toybox (which consistently uses the same small number of "trance" DJs), or the Ruby parties, if you are a new trance DJ wanting to "pay their dues". Then again, maybe he should just conform to the rest of the crowd and play bland commercial house week after week, just so that he can say that he has a weekly residency?
Currently listening to: Big Sky (Agnelli and Nelson Mix) - John O'Callaghan feat. Audrey Gallagher
... the AGM was held BEFORE the Dj's were announced
There were concerns about the DJ selection process well before the AGM with many people complaining about transparency. Theose people were then invited to become members and voice their concerns at the AGM.
It's not compulsory to be a member of NMG to have an interest in NMG activities last time I checked.
Expressing concern about a DJ selection process is actually having an interest in NMG activities.
Even if you/they are not a member of NMG you must know someone who is. Surely you can get them to ask your questions.
Maybe you and your (29?) friends can chip in and buy one membership. For a start you get discounts of $20 to each party. There are a number of other benefits such as the members area at parties and discounts at other events. I save well over $45 on my membership.
Come on people's stop bitchin about the parties or the DJ selection. We should be embracing it all, cause we are so lucky to have all these parties in Sydney. There would be a lot more whinging if they were gone. Ok I know not every party or DJ is to everyone's taste but cant we just support them and enjoy having a fun night out with friends and strangers dancing the night away. Looking forward to Sleaze Party - wish it was sooner as haven't been out dancing since June longweekend.
Bloody great idea they have now where you can opt for a pdf version of your ticket attached to an email confirming your purchase.
That way the ticket can be printed out just before you leave home on the night, rather than getting misdirected in the post, washed in your jeans, or lost at home somewhere.
And geez, $79 early bird price (then $119)... who knows when the early bird allocation will sell out?
Hello mister/miss nameless, hope your right, you sound like your confident or you know something I don't. We can all email NMG individually or they can just post info on the NMG website or SameSame etc, pretty please.
It can be fun on your own but it's double the fun with another.
Hello all. Hope everyone had a nice weekend.
Going back to a post a few days ago, I am probably one of the few people who's really looking forward to hearing both House and Trance in the Hordern. I actually really love both types of dance music so long as they're done well. Anyone else with me here?
I'm excited about Sleaze, as always, and I'm sure the DJs will be fine, as always.
But this theme - yeeeeeeeesh. We had a circus theme for Sleaze back in the 90s, and a circus theme for a Pride party as well, not too long ago, and as I recall, niehter of them were a big hit, themewise. (Clowns are not sexy. Repeat: clowns are not sexy.)
Indeed, it's been a while since Sleaze has had a real cracker of a theme. Remember Atlantis, Homosutra, Beast and In Uniform? They were all great themes - sexy, funny, with heaps of room for interpretation for a costume.
Is it too late for NMG to reconsider, and opt for a fresher theme?
I think you'll find that the've been working on the theme since the begginging of the year so I'll doubt they'll change it now!
The 1996 party was a voodoo circus theme... and (11 years on mind you) this party is a circus theme with a German/cabaret/burlesque twist. Costume ideas are on the Sleaze Myspace page:
"clowns are not sexy"... not all clowns are krusty, pick up a copy of 'cirque noir' - damn sexy.
as for the theme i think its a fantastic choice that rides the current wave of popularity of acro/burlesque. (the spiegeltent, el circo, etc) leads to obvious spectacle type shows that could be performed throughout the nite in all locations/halls.
congratulations to all the selected DJs. i am sure they will do a fantastic job. good on you!
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to NMG: although some of these DJs are known for their dirty music style, some would have as little connection with sleaze as slim dusty with dance music.
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everyone who knows the industry must be appalled when someone who has been influential in choosing DJs for MG parties gets a prime spot at a big party.
it is disheartening for established DJs who work week after week, for years going from club to club, to see someone jumping the queue. let's hope they can rise to the occasion.
i am hopeful that sleaze doesn't turn into CHEAZE.
"to NMG: although some of these DJs are known for their dirty music style, some would have as little connection with sleaze as slim dusty with dance music.i am hopeful that sleaze doesn't turn into CHEAZE."
OH FOR GODS SAKE ..... Knock it off please.
Sleaze has NEVER had an exclusive selection of DJ who play this so called "sexy / dirty /Sleazy music". Sure Sleaze isnt as commercial as Mardi Gras but its never been 100% dirty music. You gotta cater to more than just one genre if you want the party to sell. Surely thats just common sense.
You want dirty - fine , enjoy Rob Davis, Feisty & Steve Sonius , they'll be right up your alley. The other DJ's will more than adequately cater to the rest of the so called "cheese" lovers who WILL be the MAJORITY of the punters in attendance.
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Sleaze has NEVER been 100% Sleazy music - Commercial music caters to the masses - Mon 6 Aug 2007 21:49:31Replies: add
There is no Controversy.... I wrote to NMG requesting details of their process with respect to an application for an expression of interest. I received no reply. What more can i say?
"And yet other posters scream for new blood and say the dont want to hear the same DJ's they hear in the Clubs every weekend. What is poor NMG to do ??????????
Tell us oh wise one ? What is your solution ? then we can discuss/rip/shred/meow/scratch/bitch/whinge about that and see how you feel ? And any other armchair critic ?"
This sort of post really pees me off. The sort of post that comes on here critising another poster without offereing any alternative opinion.
Debate the issue please rather than just attacking the other poster who is at least offering their opinion.
Your post simply makes you look even more foolish that the poster that you've decided to rip/shred/meow/scratch/bitch/whinge about.
Here's a comparison -
Kevin Rudd goes on TV and announces a new policy regarding (lets say) how much extra money he's gonna pour into our national road system if he wins the election. John Howard then gets on TV the next day and in response to Rudd's announcements says "Rudd is a whinger. He smells bad , has crooked teeth , bad dress sense and he has an ugly cat. Nobody should vote for me because of this"
Response to an opinion by attacking irrelvant side issues.
Its a politicians best weapon. And it seems the poster at Tue 7 Aug 2007 08:54:29 has this skill down to a tee.
am hard already about sleeze- the theme is right up my alley!! sexy sexy sexy and a sensual fun energy to it... As for the dj selection it sounds great... I have no expectations because its a night of fun, expression and a good ol fashion dance. looking forward to checking you all out sexy people fat and skinny, black and white, short and tall and the list goes on xxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxx
i think the poster wanted to say - there are many well established djs in sydney, melbourne or elsewhere (djs who never played for nmg). party like this should be seen by DJs as a reward.
i MUST agree with the previous poster who wrote "everyone who knows the industry must be appalled when someone who has been influential in choosing DJs for MG parties gets a prime spot at a big party.
it is disheartening for established DJs who work week after week, for years going from club to club, to see someone jumping the queue"
On a slightly different note, Dolly is coming to Australia for her tor in Feb/March. I'm thinking 3am show in the RHI. Heard this from a good source...
I would say those that know the industry are only a small percentage to the actual party goers.
It just comes off to the rest of us as sour grapes. Shigeki copped it awhile back but every party you can guarantee there will be moans about either the name or theming or DJ's or some process of NMG's.
I've often thought of giving NMG some volunteer time but not a chance with all the foul comments on here.
Oh Noisy Gyspy Noisy Gyspy you are but so beautiful.
I just wanna hug you and hug you and kiss you and kiss you and ummmm.... arrrr... lets leave it at that. Dont wanna get too dirty here , it is a family forum afterall
No , what is boring is the "jumping queue" theory.
You name one industry where a relative new comer has never had the big break ?
Name an industry where you must do your time before it can happen.
And lets reverse the roles - You are the DJ and someone says they can help you get a big job............. Would
you say NO ? would you say you have to serve more time in smaller venues ?
This is very exciting ... saw on her website the other day that Australia was included in a recent tour announcement ... imagine a MG performance from Dolly!!! ... what a hoot! ... fingers crossed!
we are entering a "respect" territory here.
if i was a dj i would never respect such a colleague.
as a putner i will never respect or support such a person.
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"And lets reverse the roles - You are the DJ and someone says they can help you get a big job............. Would
you say NO ? would you say you have to serve more time in smaller venues ?
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someone says they can help you get a big job...based on what - friendship, good shag, blue eyes?
this is a major party. not a housewarming somewhere in pentrith.
Oh please.............. you didnt answer the question but lets just say through a great friendship a person says they can help you get a big DJ'ing role and its at Sleaze Ball.
What would your answer be ? Yes please ? No thanks, I must wait a few more years ?
Happens all the time in many fields so quit the sour
grapes.
Shigeki copped the same stuff and gee he seems to be doing quite well for himself.
As evidenced on these walls, music is a passion for a lot of people around Sleaze Ball. Is it any wonder that people who are interested in music sometimes get involved with New Mardi Gras and the parties?
I have not heard Tim play so I can't comment on his talent. Can anyone who has heard him honestly say that he is not good enough? As someone anonymous above said, career progression is not the only way to greatness.
Currently listening to: Touch me in the morning - Diana Ross
"Is it any wonder that people who are interested in music sometimes get involved with New Mardi Gras and the parties?"
You know i think its great that people with passion about music get involved with NMG and the party committee.
What I dont think is great is how the whole process of selecting DJ's has gone underground, has no transparency , has no level playing field for all possible persons of interest and is grubby and tainted.
This is my opinion.
Anonymous Poster - A tick next to a random nickname is just as anonymous as me ! - Thu 9 Aug 2007 10:00:47Replies: add
Oh please.............. you didnt answer the question but lets just say through a great friendship a person says they can help you get a big DJ'ing role and its at Sleaze Ball.
you cant be serious. is nmg still choosing performers this way?
is this the way to build up a career in sydney?
ps: congratulations to murray hood for a very deserving spot at SLEAZE BALL 2007
Does anyone know how long the early bird offer lasts for?
Nope. But because of that I decided to get in quick.
I think the early bird will be removed when the (supposed) magic number of tickets sell. Then it'll be $120.
I think it's a great strategy... if there's a publicised cutoff date then there'll be a huge rush for cheap tix on the last day which simply reduces overall funding for the 2008 Mardi Gras season.
the djs selected should be those who will blow the roof off a room. so, they should be the ones who will deliver, ie they´re good. good does not mean they play 5 times a week.
maybe the audience reaction to Tim at Mardi Gras proved that this dj was worth elevating more quickly than others
as for dj selection being a reward for a dj´s long service, what utter bollocks. it is not an awards ceremony, it is a party. no sympathy awards please! we get enough of those with the shows we have to endure every other hour in the RHI
" as for dj selection being a reward for a dj´s long service, what utter bollocks. it is not an awards ceremony, it is a party "
So very true. Maybe thats the problem ie they have DJ'd for so long they think its the given right to be selected.
Just comes across as sour grapes.
Is NMG the only party that asks for Expressions of
Interest ? if so they should stop. They cop too much flack. Just pick em the way the other promoters do.
if i were a hopeful dj and i missed out.... for next year i would:
-make sure i have my skills tuned
-make my music HOT!
-ensure my public image is perceived as positive, and respectful
-try to give to the scene, for example if i have no gigs, i would make my own party, and make sure it is bloody fantastic. or, perhaps create a post work drinks bar once a week.
-listen to the advise i receive, processing it to suit me
-remember it is a party, actually dance and have fun!
-be happy for those who had more luck than me this year, and lose the attitude that hurting others who have succeeded will ever lead to happiness
and of course, get a funky set of sunglasses, sharp hair cut (JOKING!)
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This is all just nonsense. The "lets pick a Dj by committee" arguement would just end up with a bland DJ selection that Im sure these people would be still bitching about.
I don't here the cries over on the party wall demanding that Homesexual, Toybox, Arq, Shift etc etc all do the same committee process being demanded here. What nonsense!
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you meet people when you go places and do things. when you perform or see others perform. the only rule for the club is you must be 18. sounds incredibly difficult and exclusive
All these posts just come across as disgruntled DJ's or as another poster said - sour grapes.
Other promoters just run their parties they way they want to with the DJ's they choose.
You either sink or swim.
Better than the moans about this process or that DJ or others gathering evidence against the process/DJ !!!
what the f*ck was that ?
I rather think its backfired on these posters whinging about the selection as most posters are saying who cares or get rid of the EOI's.
Toybox, Homesexual do very well without having them.
Try to keep up with the arguments for goodness sake.
NMG HAVE scrapped the EOI process and did so a few years ago. Since then only a handfull of DJ's have been selected, some on the basis of who they know not how they perform.
This time for Sleaze, the "cirle of friends" have mostly been rested and finally some new blood injected.
You can rest assured that when the DJ's for MG2008 are announced, it will be the circle of friends again though. They're being rested for Sleaze so the party organisers can give his/her friends a higher profile event for the 30th anniversary.
So how hot and sleazy will Sleaze be this year? The Dome is back in action. It will be dark, dark, dark I hope with little nooks and crannies for badly behaved boys and girls. Who will smack my bottom I wonder?
The difference between private profit and community based non profit dance parties
Toybox, Homesexual etc are private parties run by individuals driven by the desire to make profit for themselves. They have every right to chose whatever DJ they want , there is no dispute there.
New Mardi Gras however is a *COMMUNITY* based , not for profit organisation that is answerable to its membership base and also the gay and lesbian community at large whom it represents. The ethos behind a community organisation should be that it embraces the concept of inclusion for ALL of its community.
The concept that everyone based in the community has a fair and equal opportunity to be included.
This is the reason why DJ's should be given the opportunity to at least express an interest to play at NMG community parties.
In my opinion the current selection process is highly secretive and does NOT embrace the concept of inclusion for all of its community.
It seems from my perspective that a new up and coming DJ who doesn't go out of his way to make friends with people on the selection committee has very limited (if any) realistic chance of ever being chosen
In my opinion the selection process is tainted and grubby due to the lack of transperancy shown by NMG
NMG is most definitely for profit. In fact, NMG recorded a profit of 150K in 2005/06. If it was unable to make a profit, NMG would quickly collapse, just as its predecessor did.
I frankly don't believe that implementing all the empty PC rhetoric about EOI's and "community inclusion" would make any difference whatsoever to the inevitable reaction that DJ selection announcements get from people - or the friends of people - who missed out on selection. The same tired accusations about lack of talent,nepotism, favouritism and sleeping with the selection committee would continue to be hurled, regardless of the selection process. That's the downside of "community" - eternal bitching, sniping and backstabbing
All I want is for NMG to hire the sort of DJ's who will make for a memorable party experience and I really have no interest whatsoever in how they do it.
If you paid attention you'd know that every year Mardi Gras has an "up and coming DJ competition" with the top 2 getting a gig at the Mardi Gras party.
Tim was one of the winners last Mardi Gras and its great to see him back for Sleaze.
There are lots of good arguments here at the moment for and against DJ EOI's. I guess the main factor that NMG is looking for is which DJ' are hot NOW and which DJ's will attract crowds of people, resulting in large numbers of ticket sales. Sure some people will go to a dance party not knowing who is playing, however in my honest opinion times are changing and most punters these days want to know who is DJ'ing before they purchase their tickets as the DJ's selected will influence their decision on going to the party or not.
NMG has to be realistic and look at the scene to see which DJ's are hot, who is packing in them into the other clubs and parties. By picking these people there are more chance of higher tickets sales and NMG being around to do more parties/fair days/parades and festivals.
I don't think the EOI process is necessarily going to help them find those people. A few weekends out on the scene in Sydney/Melbourne/Brisbane certainly will and from what I have heard this is now what certain volunteers and paid contractors are doing to find the right mix.
"NMG is most definitely for profit. In fact, NMG recorded a profit of 150K in 2005/06"
Goodness golly gosh. What a foolish and uneducated statement the above is.
Of course NMG makes a profit. But the difference is that it makes it's profit simply to keep the organisation alive with no money being pocketed by share holders , members or owners. That's what a true "non profit organisation" is. One that generates profit but churns back 100% of that profit into running the business.
Reference / Definition from the Australian Tax Office website of what constitues a non profit organisation can be located here -
Thats what seperates NMG from the private parties like Toybox & Homesexual who are simply in the business to squeeze the pink dollar and bankroll their chosen lifestyles.
My point was less about the ATO NFP definition (though thanks for that) and more about the fact that a certain degree of pragmatic realism about the expectations of partythrowers and partygoers - whether they're "community" or not - would go a long way towards putting the endless, sour grapes "waddaboudme" whinging into perspective.
"An ever growing list of sucessfull Sydney DJ's who play here and at huge overseas events are being overlooked time and time again in favour of someones mate"
So...Rob Davis, Feisty, Jayson Forbes, Kitty Glitter, Tim Graham, Murray Hood, GI Jode, Kate Monroe, Dan Murphy, Neroli, Pete Newton, Justin Scott, Steve Sonius and Alex Taylor... were all overlooked were they?
I posted a few days ago that I got in fast for the earlybird because there was no indication how many tickets were released, and now it's withdrawn. You were told. I even said how easy it was with the new e-ticket.
So now the feet draggers complain.
Just be lucky there WERE any first release cheap tix at all. After all, Sleaze is a community fund raiser not a marketing exercise.
When we got out tickets last weekend the numbers on the tickets were almost 1000. I would not be surprised if there were 2000 or 3000 first release tickets.
"When we got out tickets last weekend the numbers on the tickets were almost 1000. I would not be surprised if there were 2000 or 3000 first release tickets."
This has been discussed time and time and time again.
Just because you have a ticket numbered 1,000 doesn't mean to say that tickets 1 - 999 have all been issued as well.
It simply doesn't work like that with the ticketing agencies
"Sooo checkout chick, how DOES the numbering work if it's from a computerised system"
I'm appalled this has to be covered yet again , but here it is for those that are too lazy to scroll back on this issue on previous walls.
Each OUTLET is given an allocation (yes , even electronically), and not all outlets receive equal allocations compared to each other - For example -
Ticketek Location #1 might have for sale ticket numbers 1 - 100
Ticketek Location #2 might have for sale ticket numbers 101 - 400
Ticketek Location #3 might have for sale ticket numbers 401 - 900
Ticketek Location #4 might have for sale ticket numbers 901 - 1200
and so on and so on.
In the case of the two posters above who both have tickets in the 900's , all that means (in the example above) is that you've bought two of the first 100 tickets sold from location #4. Locations #1,2 and 3 may not have sold one solitary ticket at the moment !
And so my lesson has ended. Rocket science wasn't it ?
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I don't usually like being a Negative Nelly but seriously... in my opinion, the bottom line is that the 1st release tickets were an absolutely amazingly fantastic price (even more so if you're a MG member). However many were released, it was a great opportunity to save a bit of money by getting off your butt a little earlier than usual. If some people didn't do that, then I don't see how that can be blamed on MG... as Dr Phil would say "whose fault is that? Not miiine. (or Mardi Gras's). :D
So true, I got in early and bought my tickets.
Others just wank on whether to go or not and get left out with higher prices. Even if I had to pay higher prices it wouldn't bother me as I started saving my pennies a month ago. lets face it, even with lower ticket prices Sleaze is still expensive and needs loads of financial planning.
I called Ticketek. There are no $79 tickets left but they still have some $55 members tickets which is a much better deal than paying $119 even when after the cost of the membership.
mardi gras does not make profits exceeding that which it uses to fund other initiatives. if mardi gras does not make a good quota, less funds come back to the community.
so, they pick the hot djs of now, and some long respected stars, and create a line-up designed to make you enjoy your night.
mardi gras party workers give generously a lot of their time. why would they wish to subvert their result by choosing untalented friends? give Tim and NMG a break folks.
go to the party with open ears and fun in mind. judge fairly on the day
nd lets reverse the roles - You are the DJ and someone says they can help you get a big job............. Would
you say NO ? would you say you have to serve more time in smaller venues ?
actually that is exactly what i would say - to myself - if not out loud. And I did. I cant tell you how thankful I am that when I started out (and by that i mean in the first two years of working) that I made a deiberate decision to steer away from playing anywhere and everywhere an opportunity arose. I honed my skills and most importantly my crowd reading abilities and made my mistakes. Now I have my pick - and I play my slots well - as they should be played. Djs who jump the gun too early, no matter how good they are, or how good they or others think they are, generally end up burning out very quickly. There is no substitute for experience - and if this is his first dance party, coming off a background of no solid residency, i would be worried. Why? because Tims ability to read, predict and adjust his programming according to the crowds reaction is going to be severely limted, based on the fact he has had very little experience at doing this live.
Also, it IS a respect issue, as someone mentioned earlier. As a dj you are a part of a djing community. It's never all roses, but there are certain bounderies in place, and if they are perceived to have been crossed, you will lose that respect. Part of being a rally good dj is knowing when to work and when not to work. Perhaps an opening slot or in a smaller room would have been more appropriate? I think in the long term Tim has drawn a short straw here - i wish him all the best though.
I went last year and had a ball, more intimate and clubby than the more famous namesake.
Id recommeded it for those who are looking for something away from the norm. Fab hard rockn tribal dj's and happy people. Its a good weekend away.
fantastic post, thank you.
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"in the long term Tim has drawn a short straw here "
the dj circle is very small. people wont forget. doesnt matter who you know, who you shag, whos your boyfriend or how many NMG bord members you know. it will come back to you one way or another.
It’s birthday time at New Mardi Gras – we’re turning 30 and intend to make the 2008 season one to remember.
We want to take the opportunity to spread some birthday cheer by inviting you to become a member – for a limited time, for free, gratis, ‘on us’!
In conjunction with the launch of our 2008 season, “Zirkus” at Sleaze, we’re on a mission to enhance the value of being a member. So, become a member anytime during August and we’ll waive the membership fee*. Happy Birthday!
After your membership is approved you’ll be able to access all the benefits of membership – such as ‘member’ reduced price tickets for all our events such as “Zirkus” at Sleaze.
Membership is a great way to help make Mardi Gras the world’s greatest gay celebration.
As a member you can vote at the annual general meeting, take advantage of discounted New Mardi Gras events (including party tickets) and receive other special offers throughout the year.
And for that special star feeling you’ll enjoy express entry, priority coat check and access to the exclusive members lounge at our parties.
But best of all you get the satisfaction of knowing that you are assisting New Mardi Gras - a volunteer organisation - to stage world class events that celebrate and enable the visibility of the GLTBQI community.
So join now – complete the membership form, it cost nothing during August and you can add your voice to the 30th Birthday celebrations!
*Free membership until October 31, 2007 when renewels are due.
Seems this year’s Sleaze theme – Zirkus – has struck a chord with partygoers. It’s one of Mardi Gras’ fastest selling Sleaze Balls ever. First release tickets have all been snapped up. Second release are now on sale at $99 for New Mardi Gras members and $119 for non-members.
For the special free membership offer (which allows you to buy Sleaze tickets at memebers prices) click on the link below...
Peeps must be aware that the FREE membership to Mardi Gras is from when they join until 31st October 2007 (ie just enough time to buy a Sleaze ticket for $99 instead of $119).
From 1st November the membership lapses unless they renew it for 12 months at the going rate.
Some may have thought they had UNTIL 31st October to get a free 12 month membership...
"Some may have thought they had UNTIL 31st October to get a free 12 month membership..."
You are correct although I think it is pretty clear when they state "Free membership until October 31, 2007 when renewels are due."
Basically this allows you to enjoy all the benefits of a member for Sleaze (reduced price ticket, express entry, priority cloak check and members lounge).
According to Ticketek.. (and confirmed by NMG HQ tonight) members can buy 2 tickets @ $99...today's SX ad says "1 per member"....apparently that was a 'typo'.....so we CAN take a friend!
Thanks for helping me decide on what I'm going to wear. I had almost decided to go as a zebra (see the poster in yesterday's SX). But now I will go as a juggler with my souvenir set of Mardi Gras steak knives.
"Is it just me or does it all sound a bit desperate? cheap tickets.
free membership"
Oh my gawd... someone actually complaining that they are getting a good deal!
As for the steak knives don't forget your membership also gets you a discounted ticket to Homesexual... the birthday one plus the Sleaze recovery (day party) one.
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"don't forget your membership also gets you a discounted ticket to Homesexual... the birthday one plus the Sleaze recovery (day party) one."
And why don't the organisers of Toybox/Luminere (or whatever you want to call it) give a discounted ticket rate to NMG members hmmm?
In my opinion it would seem to be the right thing to do given how Toybox/Luminere piggy backs and profiteers on the same party weekend that New Mardi Gras has built up over the years.
Thumbs up to Homesexual for offering NMG members a discount.
Thumbs down to the Toybox/Luminere crew who don't.
Never been to a Toybox as dont like partying during the day.
But why should they give a discount ? Do all the Clubs,
Pubs, Restaurants give MG membership discounts.
There parties are sell outs or close to it. If I owned Toybox I certainly would not be giving away $'s. Usually those parties/clubs needing to boost numbers give incentives.
For decades Mardi Gras has built up a good will by turning the October long weekend into a traditional party weekend which also happens to be a fund raiser for our Mardi Gras festival each February. Then the Toybox's and Homesexuals of this world come along and copy Mardi Gras and piggy back on the good work done by Mardi Gras over the years. It's akin to stealing someones idea and profiteering off it.
At least Homesexual has the good manners and morals to acknowledge that without the existance of Sleaze on the October long weekend it would be just another average weekend. By offering NMG members a ticket discount they are helping out the G&L community who make this weekend what it is.
Toybox sees tourists flooding in to Sydney because it is Sleaze Ball weekend. They copy NMG , put on an opposition party , grab the pink dollar and run with it without even the slightest thank you to NMG or its members for putting into place the infrastructure that is the traditional October long weekend dance party experience.
If your going to piggy back on a community then you need to be seen giving back to that community rather than treating us like an enormous pink sponge.
Mardi Gras built up the tradition of the October long weekend. Others have now come in after all the hard work has been done and are bleeding and leeching on that good will. All the other parties on the long weekend are simply copy cats - You talk about having no credibility, then look no further than all of these copy cat parties.
Leaders lead. Sheep follow.
Mardi Gras is a leader. The other parties are sheep.
The Sydney Recovery Weekend phenomenon was certainly kicked off by the mega Mardi Gras/Sleaze parties (and the widespread availability of E from the late 80's, of course) but Recovery has always been about other community venues and events picking up on the extended partying opportunity that thousands of partygoers, a long weekend and the means to extend the good times into the early hours of Monday, offers.
Homesexual and Toybox are but the latest incarnations in a long line of Recovery party options over the years and let's not forget that the pubs and clubs always do a roaring trade on these weekends as well.
The reality is that many people see these weekends as three day parties. Others pick and choose the events they go to. You're right that Mardi Gras makes it all happen and it would be good if that was maybe more transparently acknowledged, but: you can't blame event promoters for giving the punters what they want.
Let us not in any way shape or form point the finger of blame at our regular pubs and clubs who do a good business on dance party long weekends. They deserve all the business they can muster. Afterall, These are the venues that are loyal to the G&L Community who are there providing us a service 52 weeks a year.
What gets up my nose are these other one off parties that leech off the celebrations of the weekend and profiteer off the G&L community without ever providing an *ONGOING* service to that community. Nasty money grabbers who in my opinion do more harm than good for the G&L community at large
"Nasty money grabbers who in my opinion do more harm than good for the G&L community at large"
Donations back to the community, toys for sick kiddies, raising the standard, providing a musical journey not provided by other parties...... Nasty Nasty people.
Don't get me wrong , my first and only choice is MG and
Sleaze as I love the big rooms and the many halls with different styles of music and nightime only.
But I have been partying since the mid 80's and back then the pubs put on recoveries , Flinders Lane etc and then certain day parties started to happen by many different groups.
I thought Toybox required Toys etc to be handed in as your arrive which go to the Childrens hospital ? if so seems fine to me. Dont see why everything must be a Gay
charity. After all gays have children.
Just seems unnecessary moaning to me. If you dont like what they do then just dont support them. I think you will find they are still are sell out which means others dont think the way you do. Something that some posters
just cant seem to get in their heads.
Thanks for clarifying I got tooo excited, what happens when my special friend and I have already bought tickets, one at member rates the other at the early bird rate. Do I go into the member’s area alone? Is there a point of joining even until Oct 31 for my special friend? the ticket my partner has is not a members ticket ! Do they have to buy another one so they can get into the members area?
excited to go to the best party,
I've been a member for over a dozen years, do I write directly to NMG or Ticketek or
Feeling disadvantaged for buying early... unless...
Not sure but I think if your friend took his membership card and asked nicely on the other side of the members entrance gate for a members area wrist band it should be ok. Suggest you call NMG and check.
Can you breathe fire, juggle, ride a uni-cycle, do magic?
Are you a little wacky, zany, extroverted?
Are you a street performer, circus type or just have a great show that you want people to see?
If you answered YES to any of the above then you should audition for one of the volunteer roving entertainment positions that New Mardi Gras currently has available at its annual Sleaze Ball dance party.
Sleaze Ball will be held in the evening of Saturday 29th September 2007 at the Hordern Pavilion, Dome and The Forum at the Entertainment Quarter, Moore Park.
Sleaze Ball is one of the largest gay and lesbian dance parties in the world, this year with an anticipated attendance of 8,500 people dressed up to the theme of ‘Zirkus’.
Open auditions for roving entertainers will be held from 12 midday on Sunday 2nd September 2007 at Brent Street studios, Building 101/102 Bent St, Entertainment Quarter (formerly Fox Studios).
If you are interested in auditioning please contact Nick Bozanic on 0421 556 727 to pre-register then come along and give us your best two minutes.
Entertainers selected will be expected to volunteer some time at Sleaze Ball and to work with the creative and management teams to ensure the creative brief for the event is fabulously executed.
The auditions are open to anyone and are a great way to meet new people and to get involved with New Mardi Gras. Please wear comfortable clothing and don’t forget to warm up!
Further questions please contact the Event Manager, Brad Wright on (02) 9568 8600 or via email brad@aztechevents.com.au
You're wrong. I don't think that DJ selection and roving entertainer open audition processes have to be identical. In fact, I can see good reasons why they might be different.
Let's hope that the entertainers eventually selected aren't subjected to the same unfair, anonymous trashing that some of the DJ's were subjected to.
DJ's pull in the crowds and so it is NMG's choice to choose who they want. Accept it.
Performers dont pull in a crowd, they will entertain the crowd. Hopefully giving us " Ooooooh " moments. Also as they are probably scattered all over Sydney or Australia then its not as easy as popping into you local pub/club to hear the DJ play.
So give it a rest will you. Accept the way things are being done. Show your disgust by not attending Sleaze.
The numbers in the end will see who is right and who is wrong.
Yummy barely dressed muscleman. I'll "perform" on them
and get that guy that was at Inquisition once and again
( I think it was him ) on one of those reality shows....
he threaded himself through a stringless tennis racquet.
Had to dislocate his shoulder to get through it.
The squeals as Inq were priceless and will stay with me forever.
Countdown Boy, we love you BUT do you really need to repeat your message so many times? (18 for the last and in such large print).
I'm a tired old bitter and hiideous queen who is annoyed at the amount of scrowling your post requires. Can't you please shorten your countdown to a line or two so that I can get to the bottom of the page and post my bitchy nasty comments about NMG and Tybox more quickly.
"Can't you please shorten your countdown to a line or two so that I can get to the bottom of the page and post my bitchy nasty comments about NMG and Tybox more quickly."
Leave Countdownboy alone , He's a legend , A diva , and a gay institution. And I hear he's hot - Can anyone confirm that ?
On cable and only made a request in a nice way ! didnt say get rid of Countboy. I like his countdown , just thats its been getting too big lately - so no
offence to Countboy
but I took offence at your comment and you assumption.
Yes, countdownboy is very hot depending on point of view. But personally I'm not into amputees with cholostomy bags.
He's also good at the abacus thats why he never gets the countdown wrong. But all in all he has down very well for himself since emigrating from China as a young man back in 1948! My favourite name for him will aways be "Chop sticks"!!
Damn, I have miscommunicated my intentions when I said "it's so frustrating having NMG put this wall up and refusing to communicate with party goers on important issues like this."
When I said "wall" I wasn't referring to this pinkboard graffiti wall, what i was referring to was NMG's wall of silence regarding the DJ timeslots and the lack of communication they supply to potential customers of Sleaze Ball.
Dj timeslots might not be important to some but they are ital to me
If I'm to be a customer of Sleaze ball then I'm ENTITLED to know the DJ play times not just a big pile of names that dont specify which halls and which times they are playing .
C'mon NMG lift your game, stop being damn disrespectful to your potential customers.
Some people dont give a toss about DJ's and time slots but to many many many others (like me) it's a piece of COMPULSORY information before I commit to laying out a lot of money for a ticket.
It really is quite irresponsible of New Mardi Gras not to release this information so close to the party date in question.
Although in hindsight , Communication has never been one of NMG's strong points, has it ?
Dj timeslots might not be important to some but they are ital to me
If I'm to be a customer of Sleaze ball then I'm ENTITLED to know the DJ play times not just a big pile of names that dont specify which halls and which times they are playing .
C'mon NMG lift your game, stop being damn disrespectful to your potential customers.
In all the years that I have been partyng (and thats lots) I have rarely known any event organiser, str8 or gay, to post dj times and venues this far in advance.
Please don't single NMG out for being disrespectful and asking them to lift their game as what they are doing is common practice
"It really is quite irresponsible of New Mardi Gras not to release this information so close to the party date in question"
Oh please... you know who the Dj's are. All dance events these days slowly release information over the weeks leading up to the event in order to create interest and spur ticket sales. Case in point Toybox haven't released set times yet either (how irresponsible of them).
With 4 weeks to go I wouldn't normally expect to get this information until a couple more weeks. That being said I think you'll have your answer sooner.
Does anyone else share my fear that the hordern could be very musical disjointed all night. Not only do we have a range of very different sorts of music but we also have three DJ's battling against each other in the middle of the night. I'm sure the guys will all try their best to make sure it flows but ultimately when you play with fire something like this 3way DJ set seems to be doing then things might be a tad bumpy.
Look , I hope it works , and I know the DJ's are professional enuff to try and make it work but I just have my doubts.
However - I look forward to be proven wrong on the night but wont be surprised if I'm not.
"Irony : When NMG react with 24 hours to comments on pinkboard about announcing DJ time slots for Sleaze ball."
Irony or was it always planned that way? So will it be ironic if we all start demanding to know who the entertainment is and they happen to announce it in a week or two?
Thank you for the trance at the end and Roby at the dome at first part of the party .I do not like the dome for ventilation reasons.But I can do it with Rob
Countdown boy makes more of a contribution to this wall than anyone. Havent you thought for one single moment that the more you whine about it means CB will just dig his heels in and make the posts longer and longer. Sometimes keeping quiet is the best remedy.
And what those poor widdle fingers of yours that are just soooo sore from too much scrolling... Oh Pleeeease.
GET OVER IT, Stop being so damn petty and precious !!!
You keep up the good work countdownboy , I certainly appreciate you, you make the weeks and days leading up to every party so fun and colourful. Top work !
Cant accept others have a different viewpoint luv ? not
one poster here has said get rid of Countdown Boy all that some have asked is to reduce the posts. A request.
Nothing more nothing less.
I cant believe people can be so petty asking for countdownboy to limit his posts. Havent you got anything better to do ?
I feel sorry for people who take offence in having an extra 0.5 seconds of their life stripped away by having to scroll an inch or so longer.
C'mon ... The world has Terrorism , APEC , the depletion of the ozone layer , war , poverty and disease and you're complaining about an extra scroll or two on your mouse each time you visit this wall.
Please people, lets put things into perspective.
You go Countdownboy. You go as long and as colourful as you want. You're a hero in my eyes.
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You assume those that complain live their lives to just complain on Pinkboard.
You assumed ! and as usual , WRONG.
I can multi task and guess what I do lots more than just Pinkboard ( which I love ). I think the request to make countdownboys posts shorter was reasonable. It just fills the entire wall too quickly and for the bitches who say get cable etc there are a lot who cannot whether its location or the $'s so for them it just makes it much slower downloading.
Not everyone lives in the city and has acces to lightning speedds so at least have some respect for our country cousins.
Shall I tell you the rallies I will be attending this week to support some of those agendas you mentioned ?
i know, i was wondering too. i cant keep up with all the informations on this wall. theres everything but no one can work out how many bloody days are to sleaze ball!
sad very sad
I dont think the countdown has anything to do with the slowness of this wall. There's just been so much on , so much to look forward to recently (and then there's also the over-saturation of Toybox/Luminere issues that we're all being hit with on the party wall)
One thing i do find amazing is how all the DJ's have gone quiet on this wall. In the last 3 or 4 years a lot of the DJ's playing at the parties have been active on here fielding questions (within the limits imposed on them by NMG of course) as well as taking requests.
So , I wanna hear from Justin Scott , Murray Hood , Dan Murphy and all the other DJ's playing at Sleaze who use and read this board. LETS HEAR FROM YOU !!!
Would love to be able to vote for the RHI on this one!
For the first time in oh so many years, after much agonising and soul searching, have taken the huge step of deciding not to do Sleaze this year. Will be doing Luminere instead, after having such a great time at Tobox on New Years day.
But if the RHI ever comes back to it's former glory at Sleaze, with fabulous laser lights, magical music and thousands of friendly faces, I'll be there...third pylon in...right hand side...ah, the memories.
Better go and check out the Memories Wall!
Currently listening to: La Vie en Rose - Grace Jones
Were up from Melb and ready to shake it.
After Europa and Ibiza we want some real action and decent head banging tribal. I hope they play 'By The Way' (RHCPeppers)all fucked up dance mix.
Were going to Sleaze and Luminere but this time I will force myself to pace it with a little help from my little friends.
Enee, meenee, mynee, mo. Hehehheheehe.
is the fancy lighting being designed and run by the same troops as last years Ssssleaze?
Is it Paul Marin and Richard Neville? In the Hordern last year I really enjoyed the lighting effects, the Dome was good when it was not too bright. Deep and dark music goes 'hand in hand' with good matching mood lighting. To me at least.
Lighting is an important ingredient in the party mix.
Are there any aerial props to enhance the lighting?
Lots of us like lasers, I'd rather have a number of single colour lasers than one full colour, in the hands of imagination it can be wow when you look up.
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Sleaze Ball has always been the dress up night of the year. 2007 will be that extra bit special with the introduction of our sexy costume walk-off, Project Sleazeway.
Anyone with a Sleaze ball ticket is free to enter. Just dress to impress and be there to walk our runway in the forecourt at Midnight.
Choo wing mai ohhh nai mong sang foo wah me so foo long (Translation: I wish all the best to Sleaze Ball which is close to the heart of the Chinese people, especially to my naughty, naughty son who spends too much time on homework with his very best friend in his bedroom with the door shut).
I predict there will be news tommorrow when the next edition of SX comes out. With only 2 and a half weeks left they are sure to have a bit of a push on ticket sales.
Remember that final release tickets go up to $130 in the last week!
We are two, we have spoken to the girls at one of the adult/ stripper shops in the Cross and they said they are getting lots of enquiries for outfits for sleaze.
We've spoken to another shop but in Elizabeth St Surry Hills and the girls there are keen.
Both shops have "wow" outfits!
I was in General Pants and saw some jeans in a black and white zebra pattern, skin tight wow very Zerkie indeed. The manager their already has his ticket, and list goes on ...
Busting for Sleaze. What styles do you think the Hordern will be playing please as not from Sydney so unsure of the DJ's styles ? I like the Hordern like it has been in the past but get the feeling its a bit different this
time ?
In that case I'll bring six used condoms, 7 days old and throw them at any DJ who doesn't play what I want to hear!!! After that I'll have to make more fresh ones and throw them too!!
I think I might have a busy night!!
Long time lurker, possibly first time posting.... really looking forward to lighting up the Hordern for Sleaze, it's going to be great and the rig is looking great. Going to be great working with the whole team and the theme, concepts and plans for the night have already blown me away!
Hi Richard baby, you leave yourself wide open with that 'lurker' comment
I'll be the one looking up with a dizzy smile at your creations, fill the Hordens cavity with your magic.
Can you have quite whisper to Paul Marin in DOME, not too bright but make it saucy lighting for saucy music with sexy people.
Horden lighting.... go for it !
Give us some teaser info on what we should be LOOKing UP for.
Ooh, I just know that something good is going to happen...
When you reach for a star
Only angels are there
And it's not very far
Just to step on a stair
Take a look at those clowns
And the tricks that they play
In the circus of life
Life is bitter and gay
There are clowns in the night
Clowns everywhere
See how they run
Run from despair
You can be thrilled
And you can be free
"How?"
But only my friend
If you'll listen to me
When the fantasy bells
Of the universe ring
You can fly through the sky
On a dragonfly's wing
There is magic within
There is magic without
Follow me and you'll learn
Just what life's all about
Currently listening to: The Magician of Lublin - Kate Bush
WOOHOO Lighting is my favourite part of the party experience! Can't wait. Would love to sit in the lighting booth and watch you work, I have been lucky enough to do this in the past but it was a long time ago. I bet the technology has changed a lot now!
any one knows about the shows at Sleaze , please?
who are they ,
where are they performing
and what times
I've spent $120 for the ticket, I want to know everything.
***WOOF ON RILEY ****
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Peter Newton has a taste for trance - from relentless high energy to voluminous vocal trance. "I suppose I play the sort of music that I would like to dance to myself and that I know my friends like as well" says Peter, a Melbourne boy, who's heading north for Sleaze. Pete's resume includes Rawhide, Crash Palace and Beyond.
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Some details just announced... the rest will be a suprise...
Cosima De Vito
Toby Allen
Ashley Swift and Dalla Della Force
D-vinyl and Lillian Star
Hoopaholics and Sydney Flaggers
Amazing aerialists
Creepy contortionists
Fire breathers, twirlers and more
Cosima De Vito
Toby Allen
Ashley Swift & Dallas Della Force
D-Vinyl & Lilian Starr
The Hoopaholics and Sydney Flaggers
Amazing Aeralists
Creepy Contortionsist
Fire Breathers, twirlers & more
Plus a very special guest live perfomer...
Have I missed a memo? Reading the Star this week, you'd never know that Sleaze Ball is on in two weeks. But - if you visit TNT's website (a site that caters to backpackers), straight backpackers are encouraged to enter a competion (in which NMG has teamed with TNT) to a win a double pass to SleazeBall (see http://www.tntdownunder.com/competition/760.html ). Go figure!
"Have I missed a memo? Reading the Star this week, you'd never know that Sleaze Ball is on in two weeks."
The Star Observer is no longer the media partner of New Mardi Gras... that role was recently taken over by SX. If you look at this weeks SX they have Sleaze Ball featured all through it. The Star have obviously decided not to cover it at all.
Isn't the role of the gay media to report on gay and lesbian NEWS ???
One would think that Sleaze Ball is certainly newsworthy ?
If SSO are so annoyed that NMG have taken the official media partner work across to SX that they stop reporting on Sleaze ball then they are simply NOT worthy of being called proper journalists.
But SX is not delivered any where near where I live. The Star has always been the paper of record in our community and for it not to even mention that Sleaze Ball is on - is a shame. The more powerful point is that NMG has 'teamed' up with a straight backpacker site and is encouraging people with little connection to our community to come to our parties.
"So what if NMG has teamed up with a backpacker site. There are such things as gay backpackers."
I agree. They did mention that it was a gay & lesbian party, so I don't think there's necessarily anything wrong with that. If they didn't mention it was gay & lesbian, I'd DEFINITELY have issues.
I'd be happier if there was some twisted tribal house before 4 am though. That's two parties in a row where it's only been at the end of the night. Rob Davis & Steve Sonious are both good DJs - but have seriously different styles.
They cannot win. If I was on the board I'd pack my bags and leave.
Why are some people so thankless ? they got to niggle away at everything NMG do.
Give them a break will you ?????????????????????????????
If Sleaze does not make $'s boys and girls then next year could be in trouble. Sure MG will still happen but we may miss out on things if there are not enough $'s.
Then the whinger moaning about the backpacker ad will probably have the hide to say NMG should advertise to
a broader audience !
I agree! I cannot make Sleaze but hope it is a huge success, as without it we are pretty much screwed (literally) for events hosted of this size by Mardi Gras.
I personally think they do a great job, and I'm sure the majority of people agree!!
It's just sad that the bitter sad Pinkboarder segment continually try to pick faults in everything rather than appreciating or offering encouragement!
For those who are happy to bitch and complain, join the committee and change the dynamics or help make the party what you want.
After all it's our community and our party, but we need to work hard to continue to ensure it is maintained.
Hey people - I'm reading all this fuss about NMG politics and wondering if I'm in the right decade. Lets face it - there will always be those among us who will never be satisfied and will never shut up about it, year in year out. Lets talk more PARTY and less politics on this page -I want to get excited not deflated.
Flipping channels (free to air) last night before going off to sleep and came across TV1 and on it showing Ghetto Fabulous from last year...ohhh yeah made me all excited about Zircus! Unfortunatey I only caught the tail end of it, but loved seeing it all the same.
Kelly Clarkson
Kelly Clarkson
Kelly Clarkson
Kelly Clarkson
Kelly Clarkson
Kelly Clarkson
Kelly Clarkson
Mardi Gras are not able to announce the headline act at Sleaze in advance thus why this weeks SX ad states "plus our very special live guest performer".
Kelly is in Sydney that weekend on a pre-tour promo featuring an intimate performance at the Forum on Sunday after Sleaze. Her March 2008 Concert tickets go on sale on October 8.
I didn't see it last night but I saw it last year when it aired and I think my favourite bit was seeing Pandora and Matt quickly get more and more off their faces! By the end of it, they couldn't get anything right. Hilarious.
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Mardi Gras have announced the entertainment line up for Sleaze – well most of it – and things sound like they’re shaping up nicely.
Cosima De Vito will be performing, and will be joined by tireless Ring Master Ashley Swift as well as Zirkus’ Half Man / Half Lady, the stunning Miss Dallas Dellaforce. It’s sure to be a knockout show.
Human Nature’s Toby Allen will be setting the stage alight with a surprise special guest – honestly, you won’t see this one coming – you do not want to miss this show.
Forget the traditional format, it’s gone – this is Zirkus, so expect to see roving entertainers and happenings throughout the night. Get dizzy watching Bunny Hoopster and her hoola hooping team, let D-Vinyl and Lillian Starr entertain you! Keep an eye out for the blow up peep show. Watch amazing aerialists, creepy contortionists, firebreathers and girls bathing in glasses of bubbles.
Mardi Gras have coined this their “Greatest Show On Earth” – as a precursor to their 30th Anniversary festival events....
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Sounds great, I have heard rumours about Kelly Clarkson, Natalie Imbuglia, Vanessa Amorosi, Rikki Lee and Sneaky Sound System, lets hope they have at least one of them.
Next weekend is shaping up to be one hell of a party weekend.......looking forward to all the crazyness of 'Zirkus' on Saturday spending all night in the Hordern, home for a quick nap and shower and then on to the fun of 'Luminere' @ Luna Park, home again for a rest and shower and then onto Arq for a final fling with friends....sleep for th erst of Monday.
Woo Hoo!!!! Bring it on is all I can say.....Have a great Sleaze weekend everyone.
I know NMG want to keep it as a surprise but if they announced who was the special guest , do they realise they could get a surge in ticket sales ?
Had coffee with friends yesterday and they are not going but said if someone like Kelly Clarkson was there so would they.
Sure she is not everyones cuppa, but hey some extra ticket sales never hurt anyone.
Personally, I go for the music and maybe the lights, I dont care much for interruptions, like the side shows.
When youre in the zone and shakn it, distractions are a no no.
"I know NMG want to keep it as a surprise but if they announced who was the special guest , do they realise they could get a surge in ticket sales ?"
You'll probably find that it's been embargoed by the performer. I believe Mardi Gras are not allowed to anounce it before the night though the performer may be doing interviews about their performance after the fact.
Personally I love a bit of a suprise and wish they would/could back to the days when you only found out who it was when they came on stage.
New Mardi Gras has secured the awesome talent of Vanessa Amarosi the internationally renowned Australian singer/songwriter to perform at Zirkus Sleaze Ball on September 29 September 2007.
It is hard to believe that six years have passed since the eight-time ARIA nominated Vanessa Amorosi released her debut album The Power, which sold over one million albums worldwide. Fresh from recording her second album Vanessa has agreed to appear at Zirkus Sleaze Ball much to the delight of hundreds of fans within the GLBTQ community across Australia.
At only 24, Vanessa has already achieved some amazing triumphs.
• Her debut album 'The Power' entered the ARIA Chart at #1 and went on to achieve Platinum sales.
• 'The Power' also spawned the Platinum single 'Shine' and the double Platinum single 'Absolutely Everybody', which still holds the record for the longest charting single by a female in Australia.
• Vanessa won the APRA Award in 2000 for Most Played Song on Australian Radio with 'Shine' and
• Received international acclaim in Germany where she won Best International Newcomer at the 2003 Viva Comet Awards.
• Vanessa opened the Sydney 2000 Olympic Games, performing 'Heroes Live Forever' to nearly 4 billion viewers. She also took part in the Closing Ceremony where she sang 'Absolutely Everybody' and
• Performed 'The Power' and 'Shine' at the Opening Ceremony of the Paralympics, which was broadcast in 80 countries.
Prepare yourself for the power of Vanessa appearing on stage at Zirkus Sleaze Ball, Saturday 29 September.
Oh my GOD, oh my GOD, OH MY GOOOOOD!!! She was at Mardi Gras a few years back and did THE most amazing show I've seen at a dance party! I am so so so excited now, I mean, I was just starting to get excited about Sleaze but now, I seriously can't cope! Did I say OH MY GOD?!!?!?
I so can't wait... now, if only I knew the time she was going to be on! She'll definitely be in the Hordern, right!??! I'm shaking with anticipation! Yay!
"why does NMG management had never announce the performances time for each performance and the venue where they are performing ???"
Because if you announce the hall and time of the performances you get the majority of punters all trying to squeeze into the same space at the same time rather than having the patrons equally divided around all of the spaces. This then becomes a safety issue.
I fail to understand the need for a womens space?
I had thought we had resolved this issue once and for all.
It appears that gender segregation is still a necessity for women who need to shelter themselves to feel safe. If these ladies feel the need to be isolated then may be it would be better that they stayed at home. NMG members need to hold a referendum on this matter. In this case, considering how hot the Dome gets they are utilising the outside area of the Dome, which is a great location in which chill out.
Internationally renowned Australian singer/songwriter Vanessa Amorosi has returned from LA after recording tracks for her second album, set for release later this year. The first single from the forthcoming album is "Kiss Your Mama", in which Vanessa integrates influences from rock and soul to create an edgier sound. The track will be serviced to radio at 8am on Friday August 3 and released Saturday September 15.
There are still plenty of surprises in store that Mardi Gras are keeping firmly up their sleeves. Who else will be lighting up the stage that night? The only way to find out is to make sure you’re there to watch it all unfold.
All gay papers work that way in Syd and Melb. If you're not advertising with them and you are with the other one, dont expect a mention - community event, charity or otherwise. Its such a common mentality its considered a natural part of the running of the papers. I know this from personal, first hand, working experience. Personally its appalling when you consider what the role of these community papers should really be.
I hope there is NO announcement of the special guest, as used to be the case with Mardi Gras parties.
Nobody knew the likes of Kylie or Jimmy Barnes were performing until they set foot on stage. And this was part of the reason it was the hottest ticket in town.
Hopefully a strategy like that could also help tickets in 2008, because punters won't want to miss out like "last year".
Is that true ? that womens space is to be that fantastic
chillout area at the back of Dome ?
if so then my answer is Nooooooooooooooooooooooooooooo.
I dont mind if they have top of Forum etc as never went there but that area outside Dome is just the best chill
out area there is at Fox.
Sorry girls I have never understood your reason to have a ladies only space at such big events but was never worried when it was corner of RHI or top of Forum but not when its the best chill out area .
As crass as it sounded from other poster if you cant mix on these few nights of the year, then why bother ?
The map on the NMG website is unclear. Is all the space behind the Dome - the space under the trees where tables and chairs are set out - a women only space? I hope not as it is my favorite place to relax out of doors, especially if it's not warm enough to sit on the grass.
It's not the girls who can't mix - it's the boys who can't mix with the girls that make some of them uncomfortable. Geez - how often do we have to go over this. Some of you blokes are not as nice to girls - especially lesbians - as you are, buddy. You've obviously never been elbowed out of the way, pushed, shoved - called names and generally made to feel unwelcome in a 'gay' environment.
To be honest I would call you a liar to your face.
I have a mixed crowd of friends and very rarely my lesbian friends have come across a couple of rude guys and also rarely us guys have come across and agro lesbian.
But guess what ! I have also encountered aggressive straights ! ( touch wood not a parties at all actually )
but in general places from the gym to movies to bars.
It happens.
And I refuse to believe that it happens to you all the time. Sure a few times but again we get that in this world from everyone occassionally.
I loathe this segregation that some always strive for.
Hello Hello HELLO!
I can't say I remember being pushed or shoved by the boys. To be honest though, I'm sure it's happened, but I don't know that it's a matter of boys JUST shoving lesbians, I think people in general are pretty rough in that environment due to being on stuff and also it being so crowded, it happens inevitably I think. I think I've made my opinion pretty clear on Pinkboard about how I feel about a girls' only space... I do find it a little unfair that the boys don't get one as well... and yes, I'm well aware of the likelyhood of the boys turning it onto a sex space. I dunno... I spose I can see all arguments, they all seem pretty valid. I just personally don't get any joy from a women's space, but then again, I don't really get any joy from womens' nights either... I think I'm in the minority there though.
Yay Sleaze! Yay yay yay!
Currently listening to: Pretty Good Year - Tori Amos (she is a Goddess)!
I just dont understand the segregation when its a night we are all celebrating. We have bars and as you say boy or girl only nights at venues for that.
Best if there is nothing special for one group as it causes complaints from others who feel they should have
a space etc.
Also right about it can a bit pushy ( not deliberately ) on the floor from all genders. When that happens we just move to a quieter spot.
A liar, eh? Charming. So because it's not YOUR experience - you refuse to believe it? Hmm.
I too have a mixed group of friends and I am a lesbian - and I don't like the separate space for myself either. That's just me (and jgirl it seems ). I am just telling it like it is. You can choose to believe it or not - I don't care. But to call me a liar is just a smidge outside the guidelines here and at the very least, downright rude.
For the younger or newer lesbians in particular, it can be EXTREMELY intimidating out there on the dance floor. You can't understand it? Fine. Good for you. Just let yourself see outside your world for a minute.
Or as Magda would say - I said pet, I said luv, I said pet. Look at it from my side (or at least the side of those women who feel the need for a space. Maybe the next year's party, they will have the confidence to brave the dance floor - like I did - and never look back).
If you think that the dance floor at sleaze/Mardi Gras is rough, you should try the mosh pit at a straight rock concert! Makes the gay parties look like tea party! BTW, the only agro experience I had at a dance party was a woman (not assuming she was straight or lesbian) saying to me in a very angry voice "what the fcuk are you looking at!" I got over it about 30 seconds later and continued having a great time!
Most of us I'm sure have encountered truly appalling behaviour at dance parties, and also lots of wonderful, smiling, happy faces. I don't mind in the least if women (even a small number) need a space to themselves. A tiny bar off the Dome shouldn't concern anyone. Why not be inclusive?
I hope the boys are ok. That's pretty sad...
My goodness, you're going to Home INSTEAD of Sleaze?!? That's terrible behaviour!
Yay Sleaze, yay Sleaze, yay Sleaze. Love Sleaze! Hoorah!
The womens space is about having a hot little space where we can rub shoulders with other girls and have a truely sexy female experience. I don't see that many women hanging out in the toilets in the Dome do you? And if they did, don't you think this would put a downer on that HOT sexy male action that goes on in there. Women aren't as explicit sexually, they are subtle. We don't turn our toilets into sex rooms, but we would like a small space of our own to stuff full of hot babes so we can feel sexy with one another. Just let it be guys - I'm suprised so many gay boys are upset by this need. The lesbians that enter the womens space are there to check out the talent - its nothing to do with segregation or anti-male sentiment. Its our babe smorgasbord with great female performances all through the night. Now who is going to deny all the lesbians in Sydney that!
So here's the story so far for those that need a recap...
DJ's are:
HORDERN
10pm – 1am: GI Jode vs Neroli.
1am – 4am: Alex Taylor vs Kate Monroe vs Jayson Forbes.
4am – 8am: Peter Newton vs Tim Graham.
DOME
10pm – 1am: Rob Davis
1am – 4am: Steve Sonius
4am – 8am: Fiesty
FORUM
10pm – 12.30pm: Kitty Glitter
12.30am – 3am: Justin Scott
3am – 5.30am: Dan Murphy
5.30am – 8am: Murray Hood
Note 4am to 8am in the Hordern is TRANCE TRANCE and more TRANCE!
The entertainment line up announced so far is:
Vanessa Amarosi
Cosima De Vito
Toby Allen
Ashley Swift & Dallas Della Force
D-Vinyl & Lilian Starr
The Hoopaholics and Sydney Flaggers
Amazing Aeralists
Creepy Contortionsist
Fire Breathers, twirlers & more
There are still plenty of surprises in store that Mardi Gras are keeping firmly up their sleeves. Who else will be lighting up the stage that night? The only way to find out is to make sure you’re there to watch it all unfold.
I don't use the men's toilets (except member’s area toilets) because they are disgusting by the middle of the night. I don't want to skip around the used safe sex items. I hope to use a toilet that is reasonable clean. (Hope I can stay hydrated). I use one of the girl’s toilets for that reason. And yes I do leave it clean/tidy and technically I'm not meant to be there but we are all grown up and that's what doors are for.
My girlfriend loves going into the girl’s only space for short spells. I either join her for a little while or just leave her to her space. Not only lesbian girls are in there it's also the straight girls or bi or what ever.
There are straight boys, bi boys and most confusing for her boys that say they are gay only to want to get sexually physical when she has made it clear, no thanks. (Only a small percentage thankfully, but enough to make the night less enjoyable).
It's a nice option to have a women's space, she can wear her usual skimpy outfit be and feel sexy and we can both relax a bit more.
When there are more girls than boys going to sleaze, then we can ask for our own space. . .
There have been many attempts to create a mens space at MG and Sleaze in the past. They never worked. Before the no sex at parties thing started to be enforced the spaces simply became a sex space which was ok for those who liked it. Further attempts have failed as most men seem to prefer to dance in the main halls. Let the women have a space to get away from the main party for a while. I sometimes feel squeezed out in some of the dance floors by the bigger guys.I imagine some women would feel the same and sometimes the dance floor does get very masculine! All those hot sweaty bods, I love it but I doubt I'd feel the same as a women lesbian or straight. Let the women have there small space at the party, we are welcome when acompanied by one anyway!
"...or the ladies who like it, you can rub shoulder-to-shoulder in a dedicated space- for you and your male friends- decked out in luscious, sexy Sleazy fashion, of course."
There is also a space for Members only known as the Members Lounge which is on the top floor of the Forum.
So make friends with a Lesbian or become a member or just enjoy one of the three main halls!
Oh and the website also states...
"New Mardi Gras are remaining tight-lipped about an exclusive female surprise in one of the main shows. You'll have to see it to believe it".
The post could accept if there had been 1 or 2 instances of problems just not that it has happened many times.
We have all had an instance of 2 where some aggro has happened but doesnt make us run to girl or boy own
territory.
If you are saying it has happened many times then sure I think you are being untruthful or maybe its your actions causing the problem ?
At least other posters in general agree the odd problem has not scared them off.
And see , when you did try the mixed dance floor there were no big scary problems.
New Mardi Gras by creating a womans space but not a mens one is in my opinion participating in a very crass case of gender discrimination which i believe is against the law
Forget the old tired argument that mens spaces end up in sex spaces, that excuse doesnt wash anymore under the current regime at Fox Studios who would not allow a sex space to happen in the first place.
What im talking about is the PRINCIPLE that both genders be treated fairly and equally under the law. NMG in my opinion are flouting this law by not treating both genders equally.
A mens only space that would NOT be a sex space probably might not work at all , but at least give it a go if only to show that both genders are treated EQUALLY.
I'm sure that anyone who entertains friends from overseas has had this same experience - trying to explain to them that the women need their "space" at the party and men aren't allowed into that area beside the dome. It pains me to have to explain it, and in fact I try to avoid it and hope my friends won't notice or ask. Its so badly damaging our image, I do hope NMG will eventually listen to what seems to be the majority over this issue.
A few posts on this page does not account for "the majority" that you speak of. Men are welcome in the womens space accompanied by a woman. Get over it and let the girls have their own cruising space - its nothing to do with segregation. And consider that men out number women at these parties something like 5 to 1. Show me a dance floor that is predominantly full of girls and then you can argue about a mens space. Its about a fun sexy space for women. When will the whining end?
puhlease! men will never get it- they get precedence ALL OF THE TIME. They even practically own the word "gay". the main dancelfoors are jam packed with shirtless muscle marys, and the occasional lesbian. Its hard for us! We are outnumbered.
its only a tiny weeny space anyway. Settle down fellas!
1 ticket for sale at cost / face value $119.
My friend is not well enough to do the all nighter.
Unlike me.
I got her (and me) a tik for Luminere as well.
Jeepers we cant win.
Anyway I guess Home will have to do for Deb.
Were up from Melb and all we want to do is party our tits off in old Syd.
Anyway I can email you the electronic ticket (pdf) for Sleaze which you just print out and scan at the gate.
PS; We also now have 2 tiks for sale for the face value ($129)for Luminere next March. Imagine how much youll save on credit card and registered mail fees. Wooppeee Goldberg.
Everyone/everthing to do with a party gets a serving.
If its not NMG its the DJ's, if its not the Womens Space
its the lack of a particular music style, if its not the
DJ selection then its its its its ???????
dont worry they will find something.
Enuf already with the womens space issue will you.
Those who like it then fab, those who dont then stiff for you (you should be so lucky) Im just going to go and enjoy myself no matter what.
Now lets all just get on with being happy little budgerigars shall we.
So silly of me to think I could speak my mind here about something that grates on me every year. And no, I don't have a penis but I do have a problem with a very ugly and UN-Australian issue. Obviously here isn't where to express it, thanks for the heads-up.
don't worry, the whole concept of w space is very orwellian - we are all equal but some are more equal than others. anyway, i wouldn't let this spoil your party tho'
I traded by Luminere tickets for Sleaze this afternoon after work, they are numbered 6422/6423 PAX 6255/62565
I would say the difference being MG comp tickets.... now watch me get howled down about not being sequential and not accurate depending on where you buy them
Happy Sleaze Pleaze!
Currently listening to: Same Same's Sleaze DJ Mixes - Dan Murphy
It's a pity we won't have the RHI as well.
I just loved all that space.
Changing times plus competition have changed all that.
To think that Sleaze has been shrunk by half and they still haven't sold out.
In years gone by that would never have happened!
It's not just Sleaze it's Sydney as well.
This city seems to have lost it's edge. As a city it has become rather pretentious and bland.All image with little substance or soul.Places like London and Berlin are going through a gay renaissance. Perhaps it might happen here as well?
Wouldn't it be funny if all us regular Pinkboarders decided to meet somewhere to have a bit of a dance. Lovely indeed! So close now girls and boys! Yay.
In 1997, Sleaze sold 22,000. Once you add comps, performers and volunteers, it was around 25,000. And in those days you had to be a member of an organisation that proudly called itself Gay and Lesbian.
Arrrr yes, Sleaze 1997. That was the Atlantis Theme party. It was also the infamous "dicks out at 1am" party (if you dont know what im talking about go back to the pinkboard archives of this party , interesting reading).
From a DJ'ing perspective I rate that party as one of my proudest moments as a DJ playing my set in the RHI that night. My God that was a huge party ! It's a sad shame things aren't like that anymore.
Wishing everyone a great Sleaze Ball 2007. I wish I could be there but other things in my life have to take priority this weekend, and ain't I unhappy about it
"In 1997, Sleaze sold 22,000. Once you add comps, performers and volunteers, it was around 25,000. And in those days you had to be a member of an organisation that proudly called itself Gay and Lesbian"
According to Pinkboards history page it was more like 17,000 and if you look at every year since it has steadily declined. The bubble burst, straight people got their act together, being gay became mainstream... and Mardi Gras has had to rebuild out of the ashes.
Sleaze may be smaller than 1997 but the quality is better than ever. Last years Ghetto Fabulous was a great party and every effort is being made on Zirkus to blow people away.
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Maybe Panther could hand out a few Pinkboard teeshirts and we could all arrange to meet under the Middle Mirror Ball at 2am in the Hordern and bitch too each other about the party........
Juz kiddin......see all you happy pinkboarders @ the party.
Only one more sleep till a trashy weekend coming up hehehe.......I'm wetting myself already!!!
People go on about the good old days when parties easily
had more than 20,000 and how parties are not what they used to be.
But back in the good old days there were only a couple of parties on for all of Sydney so at Mardi Gras and Sleaze you easily come close the 20,000-25,000 but it wasnt just the clubs that took punters away, the parties
themselves diversified for the straight and gay scene and if you pick up any Gay or Straight paper you can see that there are stacks of small to medium to large parties all catering to different styles of music.
So the party goers are still there and growing. They just dont pack into one party anymore.
Look at this weekend ? heapes of options. In the good old days it was mainly the Flinders and the Laneway where you went for a recovery and certainly not parties like Home or Luminere if it had been on.
However for Mardi Gras 2008 and the 30th Birthday etc, I have a feeling its going to be a massive party.
reading i cannot help but shake my head and hope thatthe change to a warm mood fills the air in sydney this weekend. are people really squabbling about a tiny part of a venue that 99% of partygoers would never have even past, should there not have been another ATTRACTION added there? women rock, lesbians rock, men rock, WE WE WE ALL ROCK!!!
we are here, we are queer, and so far as i gather, it is not an area with free beer LOL.
i wish i could be in the postcode for this night, but it is not possible. think of people like me who miss the fun. think of people in far worse places, who will never have even have had the chance to know of such ways of life, and in such, to miss out. think of the brats that you have become and drop it, it really isn´t cool to be negative, and wrinkles are a bitch!
since i can´t be there, can someone else
-have loud and embarrassing toilet sex,
-lose their friends, and spend the whole night not really looking for them,
-stay glued to steve sonius´ sexy... beats,
-try to at least trip over on something and get laughed at (break a nail, heel or sunglass if you dare)?
-start a game of tennis outside the hordern door utilising only an imaginary set of equipment?
-wake up next to at least 3 women, wondering who the hell they are (female-male-trans applicants welcome)
-hug a person and say "i love you... man", or if not a tree
report all amusing incidents back here, for me and the african folks who missed out.
anyone caught elbowing a lesbian will be forced to clean toilets at all future lesbian events, at least until Sleaze 2017
Just thought I'd share my excitement.... after spending last night programming lighting in the Hordern, I've got to say I'm more excited for this Sleaze than I have been since I started MG'ing four years ago... (relative newcomer I know) ..everything's looking amazing, the shows are great, the Zirkus theme is definitely there, and there's certainly all the makings of a great party. Oh, and the lighting rig looks cool too if I might be so bold!
About to head into 11hrs of rehearsals, can't wait... see you there!
Straight from my inbox to here (for the poz party people):
"Just a note to remind you that PLWHA will be running the Time out room in the Hordern as usual on Saturday night"
For those who don't know - the time out room is in the Hordern Pavillion
the Glitterdiva James in San Francisco has to add his two cents...
Albeit from a dear friend in Sydders, I heard the following regarding shows, which may quash the Kelly Clarkson Longings that I read about last week (not up to date on everything, so forgive me if KC is old news or has been refuted in some way):
1 AM: Toby from Human Nature and Nicki Webster* doing Strawberry Kisses
4 AM: unidentified (hope it stays that way)
8 AM: Vanessa Amorosi
loved VA in 2001, so that may be good, although I don't know what she's done recently. Enjoy, everyone, and loved the post from positively clitical! =-))))
BTW, here's Alison Jiear's fabulous anthem, have a fabulous dance for me!
James in San Francisco
Currently listening to: I Just Want to Fucking Dance - Alison Jiear
No waaaaaaaaaaay ! Nicki,you're better stay in musical and duet with Bert Newton. Sorry luv, you're not welcome in Sleaze. I am not paying $130 to see Nicki Webster ?
Hey all just been down to Fox studios and the forecourt outside the Hordern is looking very Zirkusy indeed. Sounded like they were doing some sound checks or show rehearsals inside but all I could hear was PUMPING trance.
I hear from very good sources that there will be a lots of lasers inside and a suprise or three later in the night
There is only 885 minutes to Sleaze Ball , how exciting.
There is only 885 minutes to Sleaze Ball , how exciting.
There is only 885 minutes to Sleaze Ball , how exciting.
There is only 885 minutes to Sleaze Ball , how exciting.
Just back from DJ Soundchecks and show rehearsals around them. I have to say the vibe is awesome, the lighting rig very appropriate (nice Richard), the stage is stunning, more than enough laser heads for the Trance hours... and that's just the Hordern. Rob, Steve and Feisty will ensure the BKH (old Dome) has that good old dirty sexy feel that made the old dame of a venue famous. Everyone performing (meaning the music people) are happy, in a great mood, and ready to rock your socks off. I left watching a seriously full stage of performers rehearsing - looked great.
Don't miss this one.... and yes, I am biased, but hell, I'm honest about it.
Whatever you do tomorrow night, be safe.
PS. Oh yes, and Twilight Malibu Beach, at the Shift, on Sunday will not, obviously, be quite the level of production of our beloved Luminere/Toybox, but 5 full colour heads and 4 extra Subs should satisfy the die hards and this should sell out easily tomorrow.
No, you are paying about 21.666 cents per minute if you paid full price at $130. I assume the song with last 4-6 minutes so I hope you have problems with that $1 being spent compared to the amount you will no doubt spend on drugs and grog......
toby allen and nikki webster (crack whore version of strawberry kisses)
cosima devito (ashley swift production - hope its bloody better than that abismal homesexual anthony callea show!!!)
vanessa amorosi
thats it peeps!
i doubt kelly clarkson would be there - otherwise mardi gras would be flogging the hell out of it to help raise funds - gone are the days of "secret shows"
Well it's finally here boys and girls. Looking forward to a fabulous night tonight.
One more gym workout, lunch with friends from Melb & NY, food shopping, nanna nap, chillout to fav music, light dinner, get ready then over to friends to meet up with the whole gang before heading off to Sleaze.
I'm so excited...........so you all on the dancefloor.
Enjoy your partying everyone and look after each other.
Currently listening to: All night long - Lionnel Richie
If you have a Members ticket don't forget to use the Members express entry (usally the barriers on the right) where you'll be given a wristband that gives you access to the Members Lounge on the top floor of the Forum.
OK, this year, I'm missing out - first one in ages - and I'm going to miss it bigtime. I didn't have any choice because, for me, it's all about the music and I'm sorry to say this, but the music on offer is just not good enough. Four hours of trance to take the party to the end may appeal to more people - rather like high-rotate commercial radio - but Sleaze has always been about cutting edge music, including eclectic mixes, which are just not evident in what is on offer tonight. A NMG party that doesn't utilise the skills of either Sveta, Seymour Butz, Gemma, Stephen Alkins and numerous other hard-working internationally recognised DJS is just not happening.
Currently listening to: Listen To the Drums - Outlines/Irfane
Hope it shows to others who go to other parties that NMG is now back in form and they should support NMG from now on.
I just wish parties like Toybox/Luminere would put on parties on other weekends and not bleed goers from NMG. I would also then attend those other parties. I mean there are 50 other weekends they could do it and both NMG and the other parties could capture the most attendees they can.
I miss big NYE parties and the June long weekend Parties.
And to the other poster about no whinging re wooden dance floors.......... there is no more whinging cause NMG learnt their lesson a few years back and realise its a must for us
A correction re the Cosima Devito show....Ashley is not producing this show, he is one of the lead performers. This show is put together by Minnie Cooper. Cheers.
i think the argument being made is that sleaze ball (and most other mainstream mixed parties) are, in effect mainly a mens space. when you are on the danceflloor and 80 per cent of the people around you are male, that's a prettty good comfort zone. i agree, so what if the girls get a small area to themselves - guys have most of the rest of the party surrounded by (mainly) other men.
As someone who had chosen to go to Luminere this time instead and then had to do a fast turnaround when it fell through, I want to tell you why me and my girl chose that party, and Toybox previously when offered. First of all, we have been disappointed by the relatively lacklustre laser lights at more recent dance parties. As I am almost 50, I notice there is an increasing gap between the music I used to be turned on by and the music currently on offer. For me, the lights offer one way in to reach a great mood, bridging what is becoming an ever widening gap to allow me a great dance party experience. No/ minimal laser lights equals a harder time getting into the atmosphere - sometimes, not finding the atmosphere at all!! In contrast, Toybox and Luminere offer a fantastic mix of uplifting music (read: more familiar and easier to access for me) as well as fantastic lasers. If NMG can offer that sort of mix, I promise I will come back to the fold. I don't want to give up my dance parties yet, but, with advancing years, I need a little more 'help' getting into the groove. And I don't want that to mean more drugs! On the other hand, with Luminere folding, I say 'Yay!" and 'Thank God!' for Sleaze.
Currently listening to: Shake your booty - KC and the Sunshine Band
All the lasers that were going to be at the now defunct Luminere will magically appear in the Hordern but not until the trance djs start. From what I can gather they have gone from around 4 lasers to at least double that.
Now that makes me want to stay until the end of the party.
Yep, I'm with you. I thought Sleaze 2007 was one of the best. GI Jode and Neroli to start the Hordern off were simply superb. And the shows, as much as I'm not fussed on Nikki Wester, that was an awesome show.
Vanessa was spectacular as always!
Yay Sleaze!! :D
WOW!
WHAT A FANTASTIC VIBE!
I LOVED EVERYTHING ABOUT IT!
AND LETS TALK ABOUT THE SHOWS PLEASE HOW FANTASTIC WERE THEy?
I WAS TAKEN ON A TRUE ZIRKUS JOURNEY FROM THE BEGINNING TO THE END!
I LOVE TOBY ALLEN TOO IF I DONT SAY SO MYSELF!
GREAT MUSIC/SCENERY/LOVE THE CHANDELIER/COSTUME PAEGANT ROCKED!
THANKYOU NMG FOR BRINGNG SLEAZEY BACK IN A BIG WAY!
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Currently listening to: Kiss your Mama - Vanessa Amorosi
and now the real countdown begins ....... onwards to the 30th Anniversary party
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There is only 153 days to Mardi Gras !
There is only 153 days to Mardi Gras !
There is only 153 days to Mardi Gras !
There is only 153 days to Mardi Gras !
There is only 153 days to Mardi Gras !
countdownboy - Feeling a bit tired now.... bedtime now , maybe head out tonight - Sun 30 Sep 2007 12:40:48Replies: add
Yep great party.
Took me back to late 80's/early 90's with Bacchnalia /
Sweatbox parties where there was some extra design to the Hall ( Hordern anyway ) and little things to entertain us like the fire shows, the lasers etc. Sitting in the bleachers watching was like blast from the past.
Pity the dance floor in Hordern was shorter than usual as got to be a sardine can but that was because everyone was down on the dance floor. But not a whinge.
Thank you NMG , you've proved all the negative nellies
wrong in my opinion. The trance people seemed to be happy even though it didnt start till 4am but good to have some different styles otherwise way too repititive.
I won't be going to any more Sleaze balls. I can't stand the crush any more. It's like being stuck in a packed elevator for hours on end, can't dance, can't go out cause it's too cold, can't sit down anywhere, and some people should realise now that there's no smoking, they might need to pack on a bit (a lot) more deodorant. My poor guy left after 2 hours and we left at 4.
The music in the Horden, at least from 12 till 3, was hard, hard harsh, like some kid banging on pots and pans. The nightclub, as expected had awesome music, but it's not much use when there's nowhere to dance to it.
I think the people who attend are great, the set designs always interesting, and I have to commend MG on keeping the cost of tickets down. But if it means being jammed in and really uncomfortable for hours on end, I think I'd rather skip the whole affair.
The growing intollerance for loud music and large crowds is a common feature of ageing.
I'm mid 40's and cant stand squishy crowded areas anymore , when I was 18-35 I loved it, from 35-40 I tollerated it , but in recent years I've simply detested it.
I would suggest James A is just experiencing something we all go thru - growing old. Time to re-create your life my friend. Life after night clubbing and dance parties can be very satisfying if you allow it.
We had a great time last night. Loved the lighting rig in the Hordern including the Big Top shape and carnival lights. The trio of DJs in the middle set didn't disappoint. Feisty rocked out in the Dome. Free buses home were well appreciated.
I'm sorry you didn't have a nice time. I agree with the other person who suggested part of your reaction has to do with ageing. For myself,approaching 50, being female and measuring only about 5 feet four inches, I find I have to both 'claim' the space around me more (read, use my elbows a bit, wave my arms out, tap people to let thm know I'm there) and watch for other partygoers who don't register short(er) folk. One way to deal with this has been to persist and look for space where the music helps to get me into an expansive space instead of a contracted, defencive one. On Saturday night, the Forum was that for me. Yes, it was crowded there too. Yes, there are those godawful stairs and a relatively small dedicated dance space, but the music made braving the throng and the steps worthwhile. I also found lots of caring people, mostly men, who helped steady me when I was struggling down the steps, reached out and warned me that a step was nearby, and graciously moved aside when they saw I was trying to reach the dancefloor. One guy, also short like me, encouraged me to 'Push them all out of the way, darlin'!!' after observing my temporarily inefffectual diplomatic efforts at making my way through. Once on the dancefloor, people readily moved aside and made space for me and my girl, and I didn't have too many issues with elbows in my breasts or steel capped boots stomping on my toes. The only thing I would add to my wish list for next NMG party would be: can we PLEEEEASE have a laser light in the Forum too? I missed the lights, and going out to the Hordern to catch the amazing lightshow meant losing my mood as I didn't relate to the music or the crowd there at all.
I never thought a Toby Allen/ Nikki Whatsername show would work but it was ay-mazing! VERY well produced and choreographed, very professional dancers and costumes, set and makeup. I don't mean to be nasty, but I couldnt tell if Nikki was fat now or if it was padding. Loved her performance.
To the squishees, I had a similar dreadful time last year but learnt to keep moving around. I actually spent most of my time in the dome because it was roomier, cool, and the music was consistent - no vocals! But the Hordern rocked as well. The staging, lighting and sound were fantastic.
All in all it was a great theme. Enough people dressed 'cirusy' enough to spread the theme, although shame on those who took their speedos and footy shorts!
Sleaze 2007 was the best I've attended. It seemed like a compact Mardi Gras, and I hope all the punters BUY a MG ticket next year so we can all continue the fun. Somehow I think they will
Security was wonderful... present but in the background. Volunteers were just great and having fun as well.
DJ's, well they brought SEXY back! I'm sorry for those who had to scurry over to the Forum, but Sleaze really is about sexy and dark rather than Top 40 commercial muscic, ya know. But they managed to have 3 halls playing 3 different styles to cater for most, which was FAB!
Thank you New Mardi Gras for bringing Sleaze Ball back to what it's supposed to be; fun, sexy, dirty, crazy, but above all FUN
"but Sleaze really is about sexy and dark rather than Top 40 commercial muscic, ya know"
Wrong Wrong WRONG.
Sleaze is like any other party. It's about supplying a selection of music over all spaces so that lovers of all sorts of dance music can feel comfortable somewhere.
NEVER say Sleaze is only supposed to be about dark music.... that simply put, is an urban myth !
Thanks NMG for a great Sleaze party last night.
Fantastic rig, lighting and sound. The shows were amazing too. And the trance set really brought it home at the end with the fantastic laser show - was awesome sitting in the bleaches and watching it all. Stage 11/ Forum was really packed with camp disco playing each time I ventured there. Dome really didn't do it for me sorry.
All in all me and my mates had a great time.
Only downside for me was dance floor was too small - very squishy there in he middle, so opted for he sides of the dancefloor as usual.
Again thanks NMG for a great time....
Currently listening to: Last nights music ringing in my ears
Well I'll be 52 in 2 weeks. Yes it was squishy at times but I saw parts of the Hordern floor not as packed. If you wanted to be in middle then sure it was sardinesville. In front of the stage and some of the corners were better.
If they had had the dance floor with just one more section added down the side like it normally is would have been great but I still enjoyed myself.
And as for getting older and not like loud music and crowds - Puh lease. I LOVE IT. After about 22 years of these parties I still get a buzz.
I'm not entirely clear on what I did for a good part of the evening, though I know I spent rather a long time sucking face with a cute boy whom I then lost ...
Great party, roll on 30th MG, we can only do ourselves and our community and our city proud and we will. Thankyou Sydney
Currently listening to: Here I Go Again - Whitesnake
It was good to chat and flirt with you Countdownboy. It was so hot and crowded but you were so funny and sweet and really into the music. Hope to catch up with you again at MG.
How was that drag queen with the mirror ball head dress? And so many people dressed up this year. far less 3/4 far more fabulous. Can't wait for mardi Gras.
Thank you NMG for a brilliant evening! The Hordern lights were just mind boggling, tne shows were fun and professional, and the crowd was gay and good humoured. The variety of music meant there was something for everyone. There were none of the problems of old - empty dance floors, embarrassing shows, lots of snooty straights. You got it right this time. The vibe was great. Come on Mardi Gras!
Loved the Dome and Hordern where the laser show was better than any I have ever seen (including at Toybox) but I did find the fire blast a bit of Luminere 06 rip off.
Shows were excellent, as was the music. Once comment about the closing trance set, for me this would have been better placed in the middle of the night, when my energy levels where higher. I just coudn't jump up and down and scream and shout at 7 in the morning.
Thank you to all the other magicians who helped make Sleaze such a magical night. And thank you to NMG for providing us such a fabulous opportunity. Spreading joy is so much fun.
Congratulations New Mardi Gras on a Great Sleaze!!!
What a great night! Fabulous, fantastic lighting in the Hordern - best I have seen there in years. Was a bit squishy in the middle of the Hordern, and more so in the Forum, but that just meant that there were lots and lots of our community having a great time. The crowd was friendly and happy and smiling throughout.
Music in the Forum was fabulous for us older approaching 50 folk - brought back many memories of the mid nineties, but one or two lasers in there would be the icing on the cake!
Thanks to the two lovely boys who kept offering us yummy chewy lollies throughout the night, and thanks to the bears who happily made space for a couple of old dykelets in their midst in the Hordern.
All in all the best NMG party in recent years! Can't wait for the big 30th anniversary party on 1st March 2008. See you all there.
Currently listening to: The Residual Beats from Saturday night! - Variuos
I had a great time and the music was the best it has been for some years as well as the lasers. My only whinge is that there were no port-a-loos. The mens toilets were in permanent grid lock.Luckily I found the ACON chill out space and used their toilet.
My compliments to NMG for a job well done. As for the cancellation of Luminere. No regrets. I would happily attend their parties if they planned it on another weekend instead of the coatails of Sleaze or MArdi Gras. Why can't they stage a party at the Horderns on NYE? I would definitely be there.
I tend to agree with your views. When I was in my 20's and 30's crowds were never a problem at these parties. Now I'm 49 and I tend to be a bit sensitive to these situations. I also say to myself that much of what I experience is directly related to my state of mind. If I find myself becoming selfconscious I simply bring my focus back to it's centre.Every now and then I would silently chant my Buddhist mantra "Om mani padme hum", it really helps to keep a positive focus towards myself and others. I was a bit concerned by the number of OD's I witnessed.Two people collapsed beside me while dancing. Not a pleasant experience. I had a wonderful time, probably the best time out of the last 5 or more years.
Yeah is that a Fox thing ie security on the ladies toilets ? shame as they are the best toilets to use and considering majority of guys there etc otherwise porta
loos as you say.
Agree a Toybox/Luminere on New Years Eve in Hordern would be great.
Just starting to wake up after two hectic nights, but wanted to post and say I had a ball! Justin (MG Scenic), Brad Wright, Leah and all the other creatives need a massive thank you for really making the whole thing a great experience. The lighting is such a small part of the night in the grand scheme of things but it makes my job so much more fun when everyone is out to create something awesome.
Cheers, thanks to everyone who came to say hi at the console!
now this is what i called a total concept party - the vivd colour scheme, the lighting, the out of the world lasers, the little shows between each dj - mind blowing.
Wow! Clearly a fabulous, fabulous party. I'm so sorry I couldn't be there but will definitely be up for MG30 with heaps of friends. Countdownboy - relax! Imitation is the sincerest form of flattery. I'd be thrilled if people pretended to be me!
Just wanted to put my two bits in and congratulate NMG on a fantastic job, the vibe felt like back in the 90's, could make a suggestion for the music in the Hordern to start the night off with House, Trance and to get dow and dirty for the closing set with Tribal.
Overall it was a fantastic party and bring on Mardi Gras 08.
What a night!! It was one of the beast Sleaze's I've been to.
The crowd was g.a.y. this year and everyone was up for a good time, which makes a big difference when you're jostling for yor spot on the dancefloor.
The Hordern was fantastic and I think the back to back sets worked really well.
We were in and out of the Forum but thanks to Dan "I'm not here for your entertainment" Murphy and Murray "Sweet Dreams are made of this" Hood - you guys really played to an appreciative crowd.
I can't wait for MG next year - and for all those who enjoyed it so much, let Mardi Gras know by becoming a member
Currently listening to: Deept into your soul - Friscia & Lamboy
I had tickets to Toybox / Luminere and was devastated when it was cancelled after waiting 6 months for it to happen so I was one of the skeptical partygoers who went and bought a ticket at the last week, I'd been to Sleaze a couple of times before but have never been impressed by one like I was last the other night. Mark and NMG need a good pat on the back for thinking laterally and thinking about all corners of the night. The Horden was amazing, as was the other venues and it was all tied in well with the theme. Now with Cyndi Lauper in toe 30th MG anniversary is going to be a hoot!!! The shows were 100 times better than anything I saw at this years MG and Sleaze has restore my faith in the MG afterparty next year!!! WELL DONE!!
I think the past week's events has shown how important community partiies are for the GLBTiQ community. Competing parties DO affect ticket sales, Theyaffect who goes and who doesnt. It was unfortunate the (whatever the circumstances) Luminere did not go ahead. However, it was fantastic that many people who would not have normally gone to a NMG party over a private event such as Luminere went and experienced a first class event - with their fellow borthers and sisters. Just goes to show how important the PEOPLE are, and no amount of production can give you that kind of experience - the warm fuzzy one. Congratulation for a fabulous event. Here's to bigger and better thing for NMG and our community.
NMG, especially scenic, THANKS!!! Job absolutely well done! So few volunteers do so much. That was all done by the same number of people if took to do you 21st/30th/40th,/50th at home/the pub/a venue/ the RSL down the street - Imagine what could be done with a whole team! If you loved Sleaze, volunteer to make props and the like for MG 30th - fun to do, pride to see it in action, and all benefit! Can't volunteer? Become a MG member. The funds make a real difference, and you get special stuff as well!
Guys brilliantly conceived and beautifully executed. Thanks. You've brought it all back...
Who found the air conditioning switch in The Dome! It was so strange not to be dancing in an oven! I especially loved the heads on the roof... it reminded me of what we all must look like after we all step into the light at 8am!
what was the B2B2B2B btw kate, alex and jayson like in the hordern? I missed that - although had every intention of being there - i wondered off and spent mre time in the dome than i had planned :-D
I.m convinced that being part of NMG is what makes it happen. Please convince as many of our brothers and sisters to join NMG.So many of us take NMG for granted.
A wonderful party.
My only whinge is that the night went so fast.
Can we do it again please? I want a few re-runs.
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The security people at the party were much much better than at the last Mardi Gras. I assume some of the feedback posted here at the time was listened to. At Mardi Gras I found them quite aggresive but at Sleaze they were relaxed and friendly... so thanks to whoever fixed that problem as it makes a big difference.
Also I have to say what a wonderful atmosphere there was in the members lounge on the top floor of the Forum. Every time I popped in there was a great vibe with people dancing away... plus zero queues for the bar and toilets!
Everyone should join up and then the whole party could be members only!
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Just while we're on the topic of security, was it true that they were not letting boys in to the girls bathroom? All night? It's almost always been OK in years past, and obviously creates a huge problem given the huge amount of boys at the party versus the 4-5 cubicles in the underground boys hordern toilets.
Sleaze was really great this year (as was the sensational ghetto fabulous in '06), but a little consistency would be nice (ie music style in the hordern, bathroom policy etc. 9/10
Currently listening to: Let me think about it (club mix)
No offense to the 3 DJ's but for me B2B2B2 at the Hordern didn't work at all. The music was all over the place; to be blunt, it was dog's breakfast. Lumping DJ's with varying musical styles/instincts into one slot has rarely worked for me and it was abysmal this time. Having said that, the 2 boys who later played seemed to deliver seamless trance. Perhaps there is not too much variety in trance as a musical genre than say 'house music'???
Music aside, Sleaze was fabulous (if you can find the music you want to hear). The theming was like no other. It is obvious that much thought and preparation has gone into it. The shows at the Hordern were of a very high standard. Thank you NMG for your work of love. Big hugs to the vollies; you do a great job for all of us. I look forward to next year's big 30.
Please no more B2B's unless you are sure the DJ's concerned are not too different from each other (Mandy and Feisty seem to work as well -- every time).
DJ wish for next year: a Melbourne DJ named Andrew Padula who I heard play for the very first time at Action. IMHO, as DJ's go, simply a rare talent. He had the main room under his magic spell from the first beat to the last bar. Amazing! His natural home is the Hordern 1-3pm.
Not a whinge as we LOVED Sleaze but agree the B2B thing
did mean music was all over the place. One point nice thumping beat, next song a rap type which completely through my dancing feet out of action but we just wondered around and chatted and danced when the music suited us.
Dome not hot - well to me Dome was not like its usual self ? maybe cause my beautiful Rob Gilbert was not there ? Rob Davis was great but after that the Dome was just never packed out ? again not a complain, just an observation.
NMG you proved all those whinging dogs wrong. It reminded me of the parties of the 90's when there was always something happening and didnt mean the hall had to stop to watch a show ie the fire people , you could just keep dancing and watching them.
Great friendly crowd. Wish the Hordern dance floor had been bigger though.
What I don't understand about the b2b thing is that some of the DJs had never played with each other before - how do they know whether there would be rappore or not? I agree that it works well with DJs who have it sorted out - Mandy & Feisty are the best example of this, but there have been others who have also played regularly together (Eg Alex Taylor & Chip who played Sleaze last year but also regualarly played Slide). It's hard to think about which other DJs would regularly play this way. Mandy Rollins & Buck Naked have been doing this at Dirty but that's about all I can think of off hand.
We had a fabulous Sleaze. Top crowd, great music, great vibe, and happy party friends, but a HUGE thanks to
Hey Lighting Guy!
who made my special party moment as I sat in the bleachers at the back of the Hordern and waited for the lasers to go on. They didn't just "go on", they fucking exploded, and everyone around me went off their nuts.
Thank you so much Mardi Gras for putting on a great party, to all the vollies and tech crew and DJs, and to all the fabulous punters who bought their manners and vibes and love to a top night.
Agree also re the B2B. Didn't quite work for us, so we went off to the Forum while that was happening, and came back later for the blow your mind amazing lights. Think NMG were trying to please as many people as possible, which is a big ask.
But still the best Sleaze for a long time!
I agree the back to back dj thing is a bit confusing on teh dance floor. It was especially evident in teh 2nd set with Kate, Alan and the other dj. It was just not consistant. I know these three djs are very god and well qualified but it was evident that they did not pre plan what they were going to play and subsequently made it very disjointed. This back to back dj thing is something taht doesn't always work especially if the djs have not worked togther like that before. Sleaze Ball was great but I don't think it was one of teh best that has been on. The last minute addition of the cancelled Luminere lasers was welcomed but it would have been a vastly different Hordern if they didn't have the extra lasers. Hopefully Mardi Gras will have the same amount of lasers again next year and please bring back the bigger dance floor. It shrunk at this years Mardi Gras and subsequently was shrunk again for Sleaze.
Overall it was a great party but not a fantastic party.
Yeah this is not a bitch but both MG and Sleaze had the
shrunken dance floor.
Is it to make it look packed ? due to lower numbers ?
Dont agree if this is so. Would much rather have a large dance floor with plenty of room to move etc.
Again not a whine, just wondering.
Looking like MG 2008 is gonna blow the socks off us.
Sleaze proved all those negative nellies wrong with their particular bitching about Tim Graham.
I would agree that Tim Graham was average. For me his inexperience showed. It was however a great night overall.
The shrunken dancefloor which as featured at the last few MG parties is a cost cutting exercise. You wouldn't believe how much the flooring cost to hire.
I walked past the Hordern this morning and they are still cleaning up.It amazed me the amount of stuff that people loose at these parties!
It also re-inforced home how much effort goes into staging these events. The level of detail and organisation to make it all happen is simply awesome.
I accept that people make critical comments about one thing or another at these parties. But with the immense diversity of people attending these events. It is simply impossible to please everyone.
On a high note I joined NMG today, I encourage anyone and everyone to do the same.It's one way of supporting NMG and each other.
Average? were you even at the party? Tim Graham and Pete Newtown kept the Hordern packed until the party ended. I've never seen so many people jumping around at the end of sleaze. given that they were back to back i'm not sure how you can separate one from the other - they both rocked. sounds like you've got an axe to grind rather than talking about how the party actually went.
"Tim Graham and Pete Newtown kept the Hordern packed until the party ended."
Ummmmm , thats not quite true at all.
The crowd numbers in the Hordern were waning in the last 90 minutes, so much so that a snap decision was made at 7.30am to close the packed Forum (aka City Live) at 7.40am and herd those people into the Hordern for the closing show. When Murray Hood (last DJ in the Forum) was told of the snap decsion it came as a surprise.
Yes had such a great time at Sleaze will be getting my refund back from lumiere and use it for MG tickets next year! Theres no way I could do 2 parties so will have a massive MG instead!
Imagine how frantic the clean up of the party must have been given that the Parklife afterparty (Afterlife) was held at the Horden from 10pm on Sunday night! I wonder whether the two groups then share the dance floor hire to save the pack up and re-lay (as I imagine it would take a long time??) and then the lighting rigs and DJ set up's etc must take quite a while to be packed up for the Afterlife group to then install their bits and pieces.
Loved the party, really enjoyed the crowd. The lights and lasers and happy people I encountered were probably my favourite aspects of the night. Hopefully if we all buy our MG08 tickets nice and early we might have larger dance floors in both the Hordern and the RHI.
Great night overall. Thanks so much to everyone involved and all of those who worked so hard to provide us with all the ingredients to create a truly fun night out!
Looking forward to MG08...now if we could just have a great big NYE party at the Hordern to tide us over 'til then!!
Congratulations to Brad Wright and everyone responsible for staging a fabulous Sleaze.
The shows and costumes were great. The stage looked fabulous and the Cosima De Vito show was amazing. What a great voice! Toby and Nikki were great and how sexy is Vanessa Amorosi now that she has dumped Mark Holden as her manager. This years shows oozed creativity.
I really enjoyed the Hoopaholics. I could not take my eyes of them. Will someone please tell Santa that Laserboy would like a few of those hoops for Christmas.
The lighting in the Hordern was awesome. The extra lasers really made a huge difference. Big halls like the Hordern need lots of lasers and NMG certainly delivered the goods. Hopefully there will be just as many lasers for Mardi Gras 2008 and all future parties.
It has been a long time since a NMG party has resulted in so many positive comments on Pinkboard. NMG have lifted their production standards and the punters are extremely happy. Congratulations to everyone involved. You really nailed it! You have restored my faith in Mardi Gras and Sleaze!
In fact the dance floor was lifted up by Afterlife after Sleaze as they didn't want to raise expectations of having a dance floor at future parties.
MG are the only people who lay dance floor down in the Hordern
Sleaze Ball is is almost upon us again. (Wasn't it Mardi Gras just yesterday?) This year it is a dark, sexy and gothic tale of circus, lust and whimsy.
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