Pinkboard: Sleaze Graffiti Wall 2004 #2

There's only 44 Days To Sleaze Ball (and hopefully a few days to DJ selection)

There's only 44 Days To Sleaze Ball (and hopefully a few days to DJ selection)

There's only 44 Days To Sleaze Ball (and hopefully a few days to DJ selection)

There's only 44 Days To Sleaze Ball (and hopefully a few days to DJ selection)

There's only 44 Days To Sleaze Ball (and hopefully a few days to DJ selection)

There's only 44 Days To Sleaze Ball (and hopefully a few days to DJ selection)
countdownboy - Thu 19 Aug 2004 00:05:56

As for Sleaze, we're thinking of dragging the overalls out of the closet to wear again this year. We wore them a few years ago to my first ever sleaze and got nicknamed Mario & Luigi by one of our friends at the Taxi Club.
Shanobear - Thu 19 Aug 2004 07:36:15

I am a little surprised at Justin Scott's comment on the time it takes to prepapre a CD and not having enough time. Surely if you are as well known and professional as you are you would have found it quite easy to grab some tracks, mix them, apply to APRA and submit? With so many other DJ's around busting to get in and being a little more committed I hope that they prevail. If not, I am sure they will try and try again. As Justin Scott says, "you have to be a long-time DJ to know what this means"!

I say go the new blood in DJ's! I think the idea of this process is to keep it fresh and competitive. Good on those guys and gals who were short listed and submitted. It takes a little dedication to get somewhere and there is no time to sit back and expect anything. Cut out the old stock and in with the new!
Drew - Thu 19 Aug 2004 07:54:29

This process is a lot harder than you people think.

Justin may have decided not to engage in the final part of the submission process, but that was a decision he made for his own reasons.

I decided that I would engage in the final part of the submission process, but as I was not able to get the relevant permission from APRA within the time frame given, I decided not to submit a demo CD with my written submission.

After settling the unofficial QN CD case recently (after 18 months of hell), I was not in a position to record and submit a demo CD that did not have legal approval. Unfortunately, I now have a black mark against my name with APRA and I have to be a good little law abiding citizen. Quite frankly, going back to court over something like a demo CD is not something I am prepared to do.

That is my reason for not submitting a demo CD. It has nothing to do with my ego, or feeling like I shouldn't have to submit, or being to lazy to do so.
www.jakekilby.com - Thu 19 Aug 2004 08:31:59

I think it's somewhat irresponsible for NMG to leave such a small window of opportunity for the shortlisted DJs to develop their demo discs.

Yes, established DJs should already have their APRA approved demo discs made up. But it's my understanding that once the DJs are shortlisted, they are informed of the styles of music that NMG are looking for. This leads me to assume that a new demo disc may need to be developed to accomodate these requirements (eg NMG may or may not be looking for retro DJs this year).

Perhaps a little more notice and transparency is required in the future - for example, releasing the styles of music which will be strongly considered. I do, however, commend NMG for increasing the credibility of the DJ selection process, these are just a few concerns and suggestions.
Murray H - Thu 19 Aug 2004 09:03:41

Either giving it away as a demo or selling them are considered exactly the same breach of the law. The Jake Kilby case although slightly different was principally about the same issue (ie distributing a bulk number of CD's for financial gain or promotional gain leading to possible financial gain via a hightened profile)

"Music industry scores win in DJ copyright case"

By Abby Dinham, ZDNet Australia

02 August 2004

Six disc jockeys were ordered to pay over AU$48,000 in damages last week after being found guilty of copyright infringement charges brought forth by Universal Music and several other music industry applicants.

Justice Murray Wilcox -- who is also presiding over the Sharman Networks v. Universal Music copyright case – issued the punishment on Friday at an assessment of damages hearing in the Federal Court in Sydney.

Justice Kevin Lindgren had found on 19 July that six CD compilations assembled by the five respondents resulted in copyright infringement against three of the applicants, Universal Music Australia, Sony Music Entertainment (Australia) and Warner Music Australia.

The respondents – Jun Miyamoto (also known as DJ Moto), David Pacheco, Peter Papalii, Tahi Croft, Nick Garcia and Joe Sou Anau Sitoa (director of the Minesto company (or Anthem Records) that offered three of the CD's for online sale) – were found guilty of burning popular music onto CDs for disc jockeys' use at nightclub performances. In many cases, the discs were also being freely distributed and sold to patrons at the performance venues.

Justice Wilcox stated that "in each, the compilation CDs were made to enable the maker or makers to use them in musical presentations by the maker, or one of the makers, acting as a disc jockey".

He adds, "However, it would not have been necessary to make so many copies of the compilation CDs for this purpose. The purpose of making so many copies was to enable them to be given to audience members, thereby assisting the popularity of the disc jockey, or to be sold to members of the public at prices between AU$10 and AU$15 each."

Ordinary damages pursuant to section 116 of the Copyright Act – that copyright subsisted in the work -- totalled AU$18,066 in total for all the respondents, with Miyamoto and Pacheco jointly receiving the highest initial damage order of AU$9,350.

The respondents were also ordered to pay additional damages pursuant to section 115 of the Act – regarding the respondents knowledge that their act constituted an infringement and that they benefited from it -- in total of AU$30,500, with Miyamoto and Pacheco again ordered to pay the highest amount of AU$10,000 in total.

The records in question – titled Bizarre Ride, Black Label Limited, Black Label II, Black label Vol 3, Summer Jamz 2002 and Most Wanted Allstars Showtime -- were for the majority produced by Miyamoto and Pacheoco, with over 2100 in total having been distributed.

Justice Wilcox applied an approximate cost of AU$8.50 per CD in determining the loss of income for the copyright holders, and, in turn, the sum of damages to be paid by the respondents.

Despite argument from the respondents' lawyer that many of the CDs were given away, forgoing any financial benefit for the DJs in question, Justice Wilcox found that the infringements were "deliberately made for their ultimate financial gain."

"In each case, the respondent was aware that his act constituted an infringement of copyright. He flagrantly disregarded the applicants' rights," said Justice Wilcox.

"This culture might be based on a perception that sound recording companies are wealthy multinational companies and an attitude that they are, therefore, fair game. Even if the perception is factually correct, the attitude overlooks the circumstance that copyright piracy also deprives performing artists of their legitimate reward," he said.

Justice Wilcox also agreed with the Universal Music party lawyer, Richard Cobden – who is also representing Universal in the Sharman copyright case – that the DJs in question were highly regarded in the industry and as such could be seen as role models for other DJs.

Justice Wilcox stated that leniency, in the case of several respondents was overlooked due to the insincerity of their remorse over the incident.

Referring to Papalii, Justice Wilcox stated "I cannot accept his professed regret. I refer to an interview he gave… several months after the delivery of Lindgren J's judgement on liability, in which he used crudely offensive language to express his opinion about disc jockeys who strive 'to get a legit CD deal'. He added '[w]e are the real mix CD kings'".

The Justice said that additional damages awarded against him would have been AU$1500 less is he "had been satisfied of Mr Papalii's regret".

The respondents were also ordered to pay a total of AU$90,000 in court costs.
- Thu 19 Aug 2004 09:15:47

I am totally blown away that RICHARD COBDEN of all people has recently represented record companies in a suit against DJ's.

Given Richards background as an ex President of SGLMG and also a the ex BF of Gary Leeson who was for many years the Party Director of SGLMG it astounds me that Richard would choose a case that puts the high corporate mongrels from the Record Industry against little club DJ's.

Richard is such a high profile lawyer in Sydney that I am sure he can pick and choose which cases he wishes to take. For him to have chosen this case in my opinion was an extremely poor judgement call.

Shame on you Richard Cobden, shame on you.
White Dove - Thu 19 Aug 2004 09:53:23

Apparently The Chinese Laundry nightclub near King St Wharf is going to throw a big gay party on the sunday night of the sleaze long weekend.

I heard this from a pretty reputable source (a prominent sydney DJ who has been booekd to play).
Rumourman - Thu 19 Aug 2004 09:58:33

Evil Twin - Thu 19 Aug 2004 10:03:12

Hats off to Jake Kilby and Justin Scott, not just for their honesty but the good times they have given all as well.

Roll on Sleaze. In this case, I challenge Ms Golightly to a dance off.
Take a minute guys - Thu 19 Aug 2004 10:34:55

No Jake Kilby or Justin Scott at Sleaze Ball ?

Our Retro stocks have been decimated !!

Lets hope reliable Mr Blomfield is still in contention to cover the enormous needs of us Retro dancers at Sleaze.
Retro Retro Retro - Thu 19 Aug 2004 10:40:56

Don't worry, i'm prepared to go to court for all of us.

My submission is not one for financial gain, it is to showcase my skills as a DJ in order to secure a spot at Sleaze ball where i can share my $300+ a week love/obsession/addiction for music with the thousands of people at Sleaze who are there to listen and enjoy..

I can't tell you how many people ask me "what was the name of that track" i won't burn a copy for you but i will tell you where you may be able to purchase it from..

Every track i purchase is around the twenty dollar mark, I guarantee if i was to secure that spot at Sleaze, i will play every track that was on my demo. This is the perfect environment for Artists music to be show cased through the DJ. God only knows how many people will be asking me "what was the name of that farkin track that went......?"

It's an insult after having payed for these tracks (where i should add the artists/record company's/producers/remixers get their share of profit)to have to pay out a royalty again!! My demo has been submitted in order to be able to play that music to thousands of genuine music lovers like myself...If I don't get chosen, then NMG can throw it in the bin for all i care..

I'm not profiting in any threatening way from this exercise and they can suck my balls if they think it is fair to try and squash the people that do this for the LOVE of music!!!
All i say is.... - i would eat music if i could(actually, if it wasn't so farkin expensive) - Thu 19 Aug 2004 11:54:22

hear, hear! and not to mention that we are promoting and selling music for said record companies week in/week out! hand, bite, feed...
www.lukeleal.com - Thu 19 Aug 2004 14:51:18

Lordy - there'd be a queue to suck your balls love, just grow some chest hair first.
- Thu 19 Aug 2004 15:03:31

Spot in Luke! You've just mentioned the most important thing!

If I had a dollar for everytime I gave the Title, Artist, Mix and the location where they could purchase it, I'd be a millionaire. But what is really frustrating is that I cannot rebel, and refuse to give the track details to those who ask for it. Why should they suffer because of my grieviance with APRA. And I can't lie & say that it's a white label that was given to me by someone from a Teenage DJ wanna-be who lives Somewhere in Russia!

Anyway... I forgot... This is Sleaze Graffiti... Sorry Panther... Just had to get that off my chest!

Phew!
www.djjustinscott.com - Thu 19 Aug 2004 15:37:18

back to party preperations for moi! sorry stephen blomfield! i've now decided i am going as the French Mens Gymnastic Team....oh yum!!!!!!
Ms Golightly - Thu 19 Aug 2004 19:47:34

opposing podiums and sultry pouts at 20 paces! you're on!
Ms Golightly - (looks like the jenny garth "buns of steel" video for me tonight! - Thu 19 Aug 2004 19:52:26

Maybe it should be looked into... but then again, would the record companies even be interested?
shanobear - Thu 19 Aug 2004 20:24:53

..and a half decent sound system would be a nice change too, maybe even a decent one someday..

:)
- Thu 19 Aug 2004 20:35:32

Brad W - back submitting on pinkboard.. when will I learn - Thu 19 Aug 2004 21:42:09

There are 43 Days To Sleaze (gold medal) !

There are 43 Days To Sleaze (silver medal) !

There are 43 Days To Sleaze (bronze medal) !

There are 43 Days To Sleaze (gold medal) !

There are 43 Days To Sleaze (silver medal) !

There are 43 Days To Sleaze (bronze medal) !
countdownboy - Fri 20 Aug 2004 00:07:23

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Evil Twin - Thu 19 Aug 2004 - Oh good. It will be nice to see the look on her face when a stranger behind caresses her bare arse or glides a finger between her cheeks. And I'm looking forward to pleasuring a man. And her. Or both. Or more.
Marty - Fri 20 Aug 2004 07:35:50

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Shame on you Richard Cobden, shame on you.
White Dove - Thu 19 Aug 2004 09:53:23

Now THAT'S something we haven't heard on Pinkboard for a long, long time.
Samantha J - Fri 20 Aug 2004 11:06:01

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I pray that there will be Podiums!!
- Fri 20 Aug 2004 11:35:11

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love the pron theme for sleaze. think this will be a great party!
sQ - Fri 20 Aug 2004 13:38:22

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VOLUNTEER AT SLEAZE

Sleaze Ball 2004 is just around the corner - and as preparations are hotting up it is time once again for us to ask your help!

We are looking for volunteers to help us bump-in at Fox during the week prior to the Party and have a wide range of roles available on the night - 2 October

For further info please email

SLEAZEPARTY@YAHOO.COM.AU

and reply to the questions below.

Name:
Preferred phone number:
(mobile if possible)

Preferred email address

I would like to work at Bump in: Y / N
I am available to work these days:

I would like to volunteer at the Party: Y / N
I am interested in one of the special roles:

Thankyou!
Jules Andrews, Di Cameron and Matt Jones - Fri 20 Aug 2004 16:41:17

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Podiums yes but please only on the sides.........why ?
cause when you're ( at least I ) am in the middle of the dance floor there is nothing better than looking out over the sea of faces.......but when they have placed podiums in various spots on the dance floor, you cant see everything and worse still you miss your friends cause a podium of people is like a brick wall .........it blocks off sections of the dance floor.
Just a thought - Fri 20 Aug 2004 20:06:19

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There are now only 6 weeks to Sleaze Ball (thats 42 days for the dummies) !

There are now only 6 weeks to Sleaze Ball (thats 42 days for the dummies) !

There are now only 6 weeks to Sleaze Ball (thats 42 days for the dummies) !

There are now only 6 weeks to Sleaze Ball (thats 42 days for the dummies) !

There are now only 6 weeks to Sleaze Ball (thats 42 days for the dummies) !

There are now only 6 weeks to Sleaze Ball (thats 42 days for the dummies) !
countdownboy - God its 3am, Bedtime now - Sat 21 Aug 2004 03:09:02

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TODAY IS DJ SELECTION DAY !!!!

More news as it comes to hand
- Sat 21 Aug 2004 09:43:58

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Fingers crossed for Alex Taylor!!!!!
Fresh back from Ibiza!!!
- Sat 21 Aug 2004 11:34:03

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This is going to be my first sleaze. During my short holiday last weekend in Sydney some one told me Sleaze is better than MG and any of the parties, but I'm wondering about that now; with only two halls open, will it be as spectacular as my friends have made me believe it to be?
My better half, the great aussie party-boy insists that the days of the great dance parties have gone…well It just can’t be! I mean, we can’t marry, adopt, get married overseas or adopt overseas…what else is left but to party!?!
u.w. - you've missed one jonny...the right of PORN! - Sat 21 Aug 2004 12:39:56

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As you admire the background [it jumped out at me], spare a thought for those of us that are made to feel embarrased about accessing Pinkboard by being forced to resort to firewall-friendly text based browsers
- biased net nannies don't help anyone - Sat 21 Aug 2004 12:58:47

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Retro Retro Retro, As i always try to say: there's always the recovery. That reminds me - THE official recovery is ... ?
- Sat 21 Aug 2004 13:02:18

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Does all this beg the question (i dare ya) who are the Sleaziest DJ's?
- i don't want to know, just PLAY it - Sat 21 Aug 2004 13:03:35

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I'm with you Brad W - they can keep the twinks. We'll share the muscle mary's ( so long as they're not too much of a mary ! ) :)
T - Sat 21 Aug 2004 14:25:05

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Fingers crossed for Alex Taylor!!!!!
Fresh back from Ibiza!!!
- Sat 21 Aug 2004 11:34:03

Dont hold your breath. Sources have told me that Alex submitted his officially released Queer Nation CD as his demo but it was deemed ineligible by the party selection committee because it was already a known CD and couldnt be placed in the blind selection process fairly. Alex either couldnt or refused to put in a new demo CD and from what I hear (just like Jake Kilby) this has therefore ruled Alex as inelligible for Sleaze selection by the committee.

Does all this beg the question (i dare ya) who are the Sleaziest DJ's?
- i don't want to know, just PLAY it - Sat 21 Aug 2004 13:03:35

Well I could name quite a few DJ's who Ive seen sleazing around backrooms and toilets at dance parties. Surely that must rule them as the Sleaziest DJ's of all ;) Shall I name names ? Maybe I better not hehe.
Madonna Minogue - Sat 21 Aug 2004 15:13:55

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Yes, Alex Taylor is the 2nd DJ who is not being considered for Sleaze Ball.
- Sat 21 Aug 2004 16:00:04

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Madonna Minogue - Sat 21 Aug 2004 15:13:55
Yes, Alex Taylor is the 2nd DJ who is not being considered for Sleaze Ball.
- Sat 21 Aug 2004 16:00:04

Well that sucks, how can he be expected to submit a demo CD will he has been playing in Ibiza when the submission process started?

Someone would have submitted his Queer nation CD on his behalf..

No Jake, no Alex = No Sleaze for me!!
- Sat 21 Aug 2004 17:50:02

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No Jake, no Alex = No Sleaze for me!!
- Sat 21 Aug 2004 17:50:02

Oh well thats no problem, thats one more admission ticket that somebody else will enjoy.

On a more sensible note - Every DJ in the world knows there is a "process" that has to be followed to be picked for a Mardi Gras or Sleaze Ball in this city. If Alex wanted to DJ at Sleaze bad enough he would have been organised enough to have a submission ready at the time regardless of what part of the world he is in at any given time.

If you want to apply to a party bad enough you will make every effort to comply.

It seems Alex wasn't desperate enough for the gig on this occassion. Seems like complacency set in.

Its the same rule for everyone, these things just dont fall into your lap.

Good luck to all the DJ's tonight who did make the effort to submit to NMG - I wish you could all get selected.
- Sat 21 Aug 2004 18:02:43

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NO Alex at Sleaze? NO WAY! That is terrible.
- Sat 21 Aug 2004 18:20:56

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Sure Sleaze will be good whoever is playing:)
- Sat 21 Aug 2004 18:51:14

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It seems Alex wasn't desperate enough for the gig on this occassion. Seems like complacency set in.
- Sat 21 Aug 2004 18:02:43

Can you substantiate that claim? The DJ selection committee is going to need the wisdom of Solomon to try and please the majority, but will no doubt never please the bitter-and-twisted.

I would suggest there is far more to selecting a suitable DJ than just listening to a one-off submission, that may give an indication of the technical skill of the DJ and a very small snapshot of his/her cd/record collection, but it can't take into account the ability to work a party. Just look at how many DJ's are great in a club environment, but totally suck in a dance party environment.

Wishing the selection committee all the best in trying to reach an impossible decision on who is inivited to perform.
- Sat 21 Aug 2004 19:34:15

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There are now 41 Days to Sleaze !!

There are now 41 Days to Sleaze !!

There are now 41 Days to Sleaze !!

There are now 41 Days to Sleaze !!

There are now 41 Days to Sleaze !!

There are now 41 Days to Sleaze !!
countdownboy - Sun 22 Aug 2004 00:04:02

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alex is one dj in this town who really DOESNT have to prove himself by a selection promo cd. he is flown around the world every year on his fine name alone.
oh mardi gras people dont do this injustice to yourselves.
- Sun 22 Aug 2004 05:19:49

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Hey Ppl.
Look Sleaze ball is a fun good time for the gay community in general in sydney.
Sure you can whine moan and groan about the prices but in the end, you'll have had so much fun and maybe not even remember any of it or remember the best that is, the best that was, "The best there ever will be the morning after the event of sleazeball 2004
A HAPPY GUEST - RE: SLEAZEBALL 2004 - Sun 22 Aug 2004 06:37:09

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Some of our finest DJs are overlooked because they don't submit a demo. Hmmmm. That explains why Madonna has never performed at an MG or Sleaze: the party committees obviously asked her to audition.
Samantha J - Sun 22 Aug 2004 10:58:29

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do you really think alex would have submitted the QN cd for sleaze selection???... because its not like that CD would be indicative of his set at a sleaze ball anyway??...The CD features the different sounds of the different rooms at Home, all the loungey music the beginning wouldnt be suitable in any of the halls at Sleaze. The QN cd is ok but its nothing like his big room sets that he plays.
Either way I cant wait for Sleaze!
- Sun 22 Aug 2004 11:14:18

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Sorry, me again...

Why not involve the NMG members directly in the DJ selection process and have a ballot? (This might even get a few more people to join NMG...)

The list of DJ candidates could automatically include any DJ who has played a Sleaze or MG party in the past, maybe, 3 years. Newcomers/hopefuls could submit a demo to the committee who could then "blind" select a certain number of those names to be voted on as well.

You could then split the vote up into, say, "five most popular established DJs" and save another two or three spots or whatever for "most popular newcomers" to ensure some fresh talent gets a go at each party and at least the community has had a say in who.

It's just an idea so don't shoot me everyone, but I figure that if DIVA can have a community vote for a lot of their awards, it's obviously possible to organise such a ballot, and I reckon you'd create quite a buzz around the community.
Samantha J - Sun 22 Aug 2004 11:15:29

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It's just an idea so don't shoot me everyone, but I figure that if DIVA can have a community vote for a lot of their awards, it's obviously possible to organise such a ballot, and I reckon you'd create quite a buzz around the community.
Samantha J - Sun 22 Aug 2004 11:15:29

Great idea Samantha! Could agree with you more!
- Sun 22 Aug 2004 12:08:07

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A Public vote for the DJ positions would never work. Its a dumb idea.

Leave it to the people who know what they are doing.

In life if you want to apply for job you have to follow a certain proceedure and every one gets an equal opportunity to get that job.

Why should it be any different in this case.
- Sun 22 Aug 2004 12:35:08

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Not really sleaze related - but went to meet new mardi gras thing last night, meet some of the board members....

had fun, now have the buz to go to sleaze. Good event, new mardi gras should do more of it.

See ya at Sleaze!
trashy Bitch - Sun 22 Aug 2004 13:22:44

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A Public vote for the DJ positions would never work. Its a dumb idea

unfortunately true we still live in a society that turns any public voting into a beauty competition
you could pretty much guess the winners everytime
cdb - got my tix - Sun 22 Aug 2004 18:47:10

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Hey all DJ debaters,
Have we not learnt in the past that you can't please everyone! The DJs will all be great on the night,,you know it...why would NMG select DJs who were not great!??
Sure Jake and Alex are great DJs, but so is Sveta, Neal Crawford, Kate Monroe, Kelly Lynch who could all be playing.....need I go on....
NMG....act like business who wants to make a profit and choose DJs who will sell tickets...it is that simple!
can't wait - by the way, loving the poster!! - Sun 22 Aug 2004 20:43:33

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Got my ticket y/day....No: 1297. This is the first time I've been organised enough to get in early.
Roll On SLEAZE BALL.
Yeah Baby Yeah - Sun 22 Aug 2004 22:22:05

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"NMG....act like business who wants to make a profit and choose DJs who will sell tickets...it is that simple!

can't wait - by the way, loving the poster!! - Sun 22 Aug 2004 20:43:33"

Good points. The other relevant point of course is that both Jake and Alex are DJ's who will sell tickets, hence reinforcing the arguments already put forward on this board and elsewhere.

Now that the theme has been announced who's already planned what they're going to wear?
- Sun 22 Aug 2004 22:23:37

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Oh, I'm very excited. I just got a phone call and I'm playing at Sleaze.

I'm very chuffed :)
I'll tell U who I am in a few days when Im allowed - Sun 22 Aug 2004 22:29:45

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Sheesh! This board reads like a continuous whingeing thread!

As far as I can see it's pretty simple.... if you don't like something about Sleaze, they way it operates, the DJ who will or won't be playing, whether or not their will be podiums, back rooms for sex, 4 halls, 3 halls, 2 halls, 1 hall or no halls at all, hetrosexualas who may or may not ruin it for you, the sound system, the lighting system, the acts (or lack of), long queues for the toilets & cloak room, no pass outs and anything else that people have whinged on this and previous boards ...... THEN DO NOT GO TO SLEAZE! Simple, it's obviously not for you and you are not going to enjoy yourself.

I don't understand what is happening in our community, but every time there is a (big) party people whinge about it ...why? If you really want to make a difference and feel strongly about your posts then do something about it - put your money where your mouth is - rather than just whinge and carry on.

A few weeks ago people where bagging the sound at Toybox and then the lighting at Arq at the after party! A crowd provides the atmosphere for a venue, the music and lighting helps enhance that atmosphere! If you put aside your negative thoughts about a party and go out by yourself or with your friends with a positive frame of mind and a smile on your face, I bet you would have a good time regardless!
Move on people! - there is a bigger picture out there - Sun 22 Aug 2004 22:29:52

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There is now 40 Days and 40 Nights to Sleaze Ball !

There is now 40 Days and 40 Nights to Sleaze Ball !

There is now 40 Days and 40 Nights to Sleaze Ball !

There is now 40 Days and 40 Nights to Sleaze Ball !

There is now 40 Days and 40 Nights to Sleaze Ball !

There is now 40 Days and 40 Nights to Sleaze Ball !

There is now 40 Days and 40 Nights to Sleaze Ball !

There is now 40 Days and 40 Nights to Sleaze Ball !

There is now 40 Days and 40 Nights to Sleaze Ball !
countdownboy - Mon 23 Aug 2004 00:15:34

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Does anyone remember Alex Taylor's set at the last couple of NMG parties? They actually weren't that good. And if he did submit the Queer Nation CD as an example of his work that isn't the style of music for Sleaze.

New Mardi Gras will be looking at New Blood. They've proven themselves in the past with some of the best parties in years...more than 1,000 tickets sold in less than a week shows that most people believe this to.
- Mon 23 Aug 2004 09:24:50

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The 'Meet The New Mardi Gras' function at Stonewall was a great idea. It was the perfect atmosphere - casual, realaxed with cool music and very down to earth board/directors. Great job guys. Now knowing you are accessible means a lot to me. I now have bought my two tickets to Sleaze.

A social night every few months would be a great idea and I would urge all interested to attend. Now all we need are the DJ's to be names for Sleaze, outfit ready and bring on the party!

Great job New Mardi Gras!
Porn* - Mon 23 Aug 2004 13:33:36

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Hey who was the DJ on Saturday night? DJ Spunk or what??!!
G'Lamoure - Mon 23 Aug 2004 13:55:23

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Does anyone remember Alex Taylor's set at the last couple of NMG parties? They actually weren't that good. And if he did submit the Queer Nation CD as an example of his work that isn't the style of music for Sleaze.
- Mon 23 Aug 2004 09:24:50

I have to partially agree with this comment, however, the conumdrum is if you never hear new styles of music then how will you ever know if you'll like/dislike it? I'm just glad I don't have to pick which DJ's are invited and for which hall and which set - it's hard enuff on the night usually ... LOL
- Mon 23 Aug 2004 16:48:23

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who got selected to play at sleaze?
names please
- Mon 23 Aug 2004 17:29:56

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Hopefully we will see some fresh faces at Sleaze, the last 4 or 5 years have pretty mush been the same DJs every year.
- Mon 23 Aug 2004 19:04:26

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Still not buying till I know the DJ's
Waiting, waiting - Mon 23 Aug 2004 19:29:56

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I know who one of the DJs is for Sleaze and cant wait it is going to be a good night,
- Mon 23 Aug 2004 19:30:50

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Hey who was the DJ on Saturday night? DJ Spunk or what??!!
G'Lamoure - Mon 23 Aug 2004 13:55:23

Not sure who he was - but u r right he was a cutie!

will be keeping an eye out for him again Prrrrrr
Playme - Mon 23 Aug 2004 19:44:23

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I hope that the DJs @ sleaze are not the same DJs that appear every time its getting a little old, i know you will never make everyone happy, but maybe a change is as good as a holiday
hanginoutforDJlist - Mon 23 Aug 2004 19:54:16

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Anyone know whos playing at sleaze...

Will decided if i am going when i see the list
- Mon 23 Aug 2004 19:55:02

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the hordern is a cracker line up. can't wait for sleaze
- Mon 23 Aug 2004 20:15:31

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Off topic amd just in...

Most Popular DJ for the 2004 DIVA Awards: JIMMY DEE

Congratulations Jimmy!
www.djjustinscott.com - Mon 23 Aug 2004 21:50:40

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there are now 39 Days to Sleaze Ball. And its getting exciting !!

there are now 39 Days to Sleaze Ball. And its getting exciting !!

there are now 39 Days to Sleaze Ball. And its getting exciting !!

there are now 39 Days to Sleaze Ball. And its getting exciting !!

there are now 39 Days to Sleaze Ball. And its getting exciting !!

there are now 39 Days to Sleaze Ball. And its getting exciting !!

there are now 39 Days to Sleaze Ball. And its getting exciting !!

there are now 39 Days to Sleaze Ball. And its getting exciting !!

there are now 39 Days to Sleaze Ball. And its getting exciting !!

there are now 39 Days to Sleaze Ball. And its getting exciting !!
countdownboy - Tue 24 Aug 2004 00:17:52

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Horden - Kelly , Sveta , Rollins

RHI - Sheigeki , Murphy , Crawford
You heard it here first - Tue 24 Aug 2004 10:34:51
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Has anyone noticed that the poster and the NMG website is calling the party simply 'Sleaze' not Sleaze 'Ball'?
- Tue 24 Aug 2004 10:48:50

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Well I just received my rejection email from New Mardi Gras *sniff* so count me out...
www.lukeleal.com - Tue 24 Aug 2004 12:00:29

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No Luke Leal as a 'staple diet' for a dance party?? Who would replace The sound then... Neal Crawford? Is he in? Not wanting to bag the 'straights' though I would much prefer a community gay DJ as opposed to a straight one cashing in on it!

Luke, I feel your pain!
Ferosh - Tue 24 Aug 2004 12:47:50

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Well Luke - great to know that you're in good company.
- Tue 24 Aug 2004 12:50:00

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So far Luke Leal, Alex Taylor & Jake Kilby have been rejected....hmmm, maybe Queer Nation should run on the Saturday night instead of the Sunday!
- Tue 24 Aug 2004 13:24:06

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What a pathetic post that should be dignified with a response however I provide you with one from the heart. Neal Crawford is not cashing in on the community. I would say that his music gives more to the community than most DJ’s who are gay. I know I would prefer to be dancing to Neal than others myself. I wouldn’t expect that you would say it to his face either. If Neal is playing Good for him. He deserves it.
ryan murphy - Tue 24 Aug 2004 13:27:23

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Agree with Ryan. I don't even know Neal but I certainly don't mind him playing at our parties - he's a good DJ and he supports the gay community. It's clear he's not just in it to cash in on the gay community and he is indeed just as much a part of our community as any gay or lesbian person is.
TJ - Tue 24 Aug 2004 13:34:03

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No Luke? No Alex? :( Sounds like we're in for a different type of party. This may turn out to be a good or bad thing, won't know 'til we try I suppose!
- Tue 24 Aug 2004 13:52:25

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Ryan - kewl comment

I have to ask what happened to acceptance and tolerance? As a member of the Gay community, i have for years fought the fight for these things, and it appears to me that we have the same issues within our very own community.

If Neil has been selected to play, Great!!!! What really matters is that he delivers a great set, and he should not be judged on whom he sleeps with.

Looking forward to Sleaze!
- Tue 24 Aug 2004 13:53:51

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Can't believe you actually care whether a DJ is gay or straight. Such a division is a bit...retro!
- Tue 24 Aug 2004 14:02:52

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Thank you Ryan. Neil is the nicest guy on the planet and extremely talented. Furthermore, he is a close collegue of Luke's and I'm sure Luke doesn't appreciate the Neil bashing. Luke has played at a million Mardi Gras parties and it's not because he's gay it's bacause he's a fu'#ing great DJ! You're an idiot!
Harder Please - Tue 24 Aug 2004 14:06:23

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Whatever has happened with the DJ selection (and certain DJs are already talking after signing their contracts), why on earth can a DJ effectively 'buy' an Award by outrageous self promotion and then get selected by Mardi Gras. Surely the Dance Party Working Group isn't that gullible?
- Tue 24 Aug 2004 14:21:14

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No Luke Leal at Sleaze?!

Well, hopefully Neal C. will be playing...no retro is fine by me, but if hard house is lost, then thats taking it a bit too far!!
u.w. - ...no Luke Leal...no elections dates...whats this world comming to ?! - Tue 24 Aug 2004 15:01:05

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Looking forward to Sleaze!
- Tue 24 Aug 2004 13:53:51

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- Tue 24 Aug 2004 14:02:52

I couldn't agree with either of you more.
- Tue 24 Aug 2004 15:05:35

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Luke, I am taking my walkman to Sleaze with your tunes on it so I can dance in denial and defiance of your absence.
Do you by any chance have a life size cardboard cut-out of yourself I could borrow ? It seems a shame for you not to go to Sleaze at all, so I would like to take ‘cardboard-cut-out-Luke’ and dance and generally hang around with said cardboard thingy of you. That is all.
- Tue 24 Aug 2004 15:07:13

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Whatever has happened with the DJ selection (and certain DJs are already talking after signing their contracts), why on earth can a DJ effectively 'buy' an Award by outrageous self promotion and then get selected by Mardi Gras. Surely the Dance Party Working Group isn't that gullible?
- Tue 24 Aug 2004 14:21:14

I think that decisions on DJ selections would have been made beforelast night then contracts would have had to be signed, so if you think of timelines i hardly think it would have anything to do with any working group at all. Have you heard of the term coincidence?
- Tue 24 Aug 2004 15:26:11

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Oh.. no! Along with Mr Leal, there is no Seymour Buttz for sleaze ball :o(
and he is Mr. Porn soundtrack! (hot desert nights/ sauna sessions - hot!)
Oh well, guess its Ken's at Kensington in the morning after then... heh heh!
bEATKID!! - Tue 24 Aug 2004 15:42:51

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MMMMM negative Boys --- I know Neil personally and he is a great guy and a well respected DJ in our comunity!Also one of the nicest guys you could be friends with!Gay or St8 what does it matter he provides us with great music in our clubs and supports us as a community! Yes wish all the great Dj could play at sleeze but alas it can't be!I wish all them who play HAVE A FABO NIGHT! I WILL ! as for price I pay $85.00 to go to a concert to sit for 2 hours to see it! $95.00 for 2 halls music shows and a great 10 hours of entertainment mmmmm well worth the cost!! Support NMG we don't want to lose it!!!!
MarC H - Tue 24 Aug 2004 16:55:37

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Seems like NMG is going to give us a different party this year! It's good to knock down 'sacred cows' from time to time. Our parties would be same old same old shit otherwise; boring and predictable. Guys, let's support NMG and rally behind Sleaze. Surely it is bigger than any one personality, DJ or otherwise. Bring on, Sleaze!
Excited about Change - Tue 24 Aug 2004 17:09:36

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Just for the record. Selection process...... All CD's are listened to by a panel of people that represent a cross section of the community. At no stage do any of those people know what CD is being played. CD's are numbered... labels covered etc. I am sure if you speak to one of the people who undertook this process you would find out that this is the case. ( there were several groups of people for different styles) i think they had a few sessions. Yes DJ's have been notified. And you will find out who when the papers come out (i think). It's not such a big deal anyway. Pride does not select their DJ's with a panel. NONE of the parties out there ( toybox, GAY, QN, Ruby) do either. NMG do it this way to try and stop the bitching and issues with selecting DJ's for a community event.... shame that has not filtered down to this board. And if you really have an issue... call NMG and ask for a qualification. OR BETTER - Join NMG and raise your DJ ethics questions at a AGM
Ryan Murphy - Tue 24 Aug 2004 17:51:54

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I found out I'm not playing either :(

Oh well, I guess it means I'll have the whole night off to party!
Dan Murphy - (Sleaze Ball Virgin) - Tue 24 Aug 2004 18:03:30

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Went to the diva awards after party and it went off! the music was awesome, a mix of 'ultra queer drag queen' type music and heaps of recent stuff including Lolas' theme, etc. The hip hop was a bit of a downer though...but getting back to sleaze! Hope the music is mixed the same...fun and queer, followed by harder dance and into the trancey stuff. Cannot wait! Only wish I had more time to tan it up. Hope everyone is there and up for a HUGE night!
nome - Tue 24 Aug 2004 19:29:02

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Well sounds like Hordern wont be its usual hardstyle more tribal ( or am I wrong ? )

If it is Sveta in the middle I hope she keeps the beat going for a few records/cd's.......dont get me wrong I have had some fantastic dances to Sveta but have also had to sit her out as she becomes sooooooooo manic the beat changes with everyone song but thats my personal choice.....

I'm not a Retro fan but I have 6 friends who wont be going if no Retro space ? is there ?
Here's hoping - Tue 24 Aug 2004 19:38:27

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Retro Space there will be. Think about a circus tent between the RHI & The Hordern.
- Tue 24 Aug 2004 20:51:17

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Here's hoping it's not a chilly night for that
outdoors-ish retro space. It'll be nice to have it, and great to have something set up in between the halls!
- Tue 24 Aug 2004 22:18:48

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RECIPE FOR A GREAT SLEAZE:

Take a a good measure of open mindedness, a crowd of friends, a great community, a truck load of fun, a dash of alchol (or to taste), some great DJ's and music with plenty of variety, season (with whatever you fancy), simmer for 3 hours (well at least until your sweating), boil for 4 hours (that should take you til about 5.00am), leave to rest for a while, simmer again, recover for a while and then do it all again the next nite at QN.

Come on Sydney lets hear more about what we are going to be doing to make it a great nite.

HAPPY SLEAZE
mode - glad to be living in Sydney - Tue 24 Aug 2004 22:51:21

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There is now only 38 days to Sleaze Ball

There is now only 38 days to Sleaze Ball

There is now only 38 days to Sleaze Ball

There is now only 38 days to Sleaze Ball

There is now only 38 days to Sleaze Ball

There is now only 38 days to Sleaze Ball

There is now only 38 days to Sleaze Ball
countdownboy - Wed 25 Aug 2004 00:23:50

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Sadly my notification came through this morning regarding Sleaze.

Oh well congrats to those who did get selected, I'll be there dancing all night as usual.
Shanobear - Wed 25 Aug 2004 10:21:56

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found out I'm not playing either :(
Oh well, I guess it means I'll have the whole night off to party!
Dan Murphy - (Sleaze Ball Virgin) - Tue 24 Aug 2004 18:03:30

I am sorry to hear you are not playing Dan... Lets just get out on the dance floor and enjoy the dark and dirty side of sleaze!
DanFan! - Wed 25 Aug 2004 13:30:41

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I am SOOOO getting excited about sleaze - does anyone know how many tickets have been sold ?

I think its a great theme, hoping it hard dark and dirty

counting down the sleeps
DirtyBoi - Wed 25 Aug 2004 13:32:05

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My friend (who I like to call Mr Ticketek) says 1,600 tickets have been sold. Sooooo better get your early bird tickets if you haven't already I guess!!
- Wed 25 Aug 2004 13:55:57

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No offence to the DJ's in the post saying who they think its going to be but please can we have some hardstyle in
Hordern.
Missed out on it at NMG but if that post was true sounds like they are trying to make the Hordern into the Dome
style - or am I wrong ?
Hope I'm not - Wed 25 Aug 2004 16:17:36

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I also think its outrageous or arrogant that its taken this long for the DJ's to be announced.
Dont give me that crap about supporting Sleaze/NMG. If I dont know the DJ's I aint going.

Agree that there should be new blood but shouldnt the new blood be mixed with the tried and true DJ's ? after all
most events need "names" to get the punters to attend and I mean names who attract large crowds ?
? - Wed 25 Aug 2004 16:21:09

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I think that come tomorrow we will know who the DJ's are and probably who will be lighting each room as well.
Brad W - Wed 25 Aug 2004 17:45:10

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the hordern will not doubt feature some hard stuff, as will the second half of the night in the rhi
- Wed 25 Aug 2004 19:04:18

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Fingers crossed they fix the sound in the Hordern or hand out 7,000 personal headsets all tuned into the DJ ?
Ha - Wed 25 Aug 2004 20:11:08

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It's the sound in the RHI to worry about. People won't like it turned down again like Mardi Gras was.
- FiremanSam - Wed 25 Aug 2004 21:45:21

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there will be no retro at sleaze !
top_u_hard - Wed 25 Aug 2004 22:30:57
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there is retro at sleaze
not a retro fan - Wed 25 Aug 2004 23:33:23
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top_u_hard - Wed 25 Aug 2004 22:30:57

There *will* be a retro space at sleaze. I know one of the DJ's who will be playing in that space. Check the papers tomorrow and wipe the mud off your face
Piggy Mud Mud - Wed 25 Aug 2004 23:39:24

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There are 37 Days To Sleaze (Have You bought your ticket yet) ?

There are 37 Days To Sleaze (Have You bought your ticket yet) ?

There are 37 Days To Sleaze (Have You bought your ticket yet) ?

There are 37 Days To Sleaze (Have You bought your ticket yet) ?

There are 37 Days To Sleaze (Have You bought your ticket yet) ?

There are 37 Days To Sleaze (Have You bought your ticket yet) ?
countdownboy - Thu 26 Aug 2004 00:19:58

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Wed 25 Aug 2004 13:30:41

Ta love! This will be my first Sleaze and I'm really looking forward to throwing myself in the deep end and getting seriously dirty ;)
Dan Murphy - Thu 26 Aug 2004 00:34:22

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If i see ya at Sleaze will come up say hi and make sure you are having a seriously Dirty time!

love light & Beats
DanFan! - Thu 26 Aug 2004 06:03:46

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Is Brad doing the lighting at Hordern?

Loved what he did at Big QN ( I think that was with Neal C. and Luke Leal)...had a great time there, hopefully they've selected Neal Crawford!
- Thu 26 Aug 2004 08:55:18

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Brad finds out today... My design was for RHI or Hordern... fingers crossed..
Brad W - Thu 26 Aug 2004 09:53:32

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Luke Leal, Alex Taylor, Jake Kilby, Anthony Whitlock, Dan Murphy, Shanobear... That's a fairly comprehensive list of established DJ's who missed out on Sleaze this year. I wonder how transparent the selection process really was??
- Thu 26 Aug 2004 10:45:29

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Good Luck Brad - got everything crossed for you babe!
DirtyBoi - Thu 26 Aug 2004 11:09:18

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DJ names have been released...yippeee!

Hordern
Mike Kelly 10pm to 1am
Mandy Rollins 1am to 4am
Sveta 4am to 8am

RHI
Shigeki 10pm to 1am
Neal Crawford 1am to 5am
Ryan Murphy 5am to 8am

Retro
Jimmy Dee 10am to 2am
Stephen Blomfield 2am to 6am
- Thu 26 Aug 2004 11:23:04

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I cant wait any longer to find out who's playing! I'm going mad here!!!
Adam - Thu 26 Aug 2004 11:27:01

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And the DJ's are..

Hordern: Mike Kelly + Mandy Rollins + Sveta
RHI: Shigeki + Neal Crawford + Ryan Murphy
Retro space(tba): Jimmy Dee + Stephen Bloomfield
- Thu 26 Aug 2004 12:24:18

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Congratualtions to all the DJ's - it's a very smart line up. The RHI is particulary fresh and it's good to see they're are willing to take a risk with a different approach to the closing set.

As long as work permits I'll be there (especially if someone throws me a comp!) cheering along that big lug Crawford.

Don't forget to save some energy for the Jake, Luke & Alex show the following night at QN (I'm workshopping the name The Sleaze Rejects - there will be cheerleaders 'n everyfin), I reckon it's going to be the best one yet...
www.lukeleal.com - Thu 26 Aug 2004 13:13:00

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Well now that the DJ have been announced, can we expect a mad rush of ticket sales???
- Thu 26 Aug 2004 13:14:23

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Not a bad DJ line-up! Am particularly glad to see Neal Crawford and Ryan Murphy there - congratulations guys!
Trance Boy - Thu 26 Aug 2004 13:48:16

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Unfortunately the DJ lineup in the RHI doesn't really give you an indication of what style of music that will be played.

Neil, Ryan, can you comment on what style you will play. I am a big fan when you guys play Trance, but if you intend on playing a House set, I will have 2nd thoughts about going.
- Thu 26 Aug 2004 13:54:52

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Great lineup... looking forward to it!! Now can all those complainers get on with it and buy your tickets... and if you're not going then we don't want to hear about it! Happy Sleaze to all sleazers.
TJ - Thu 26 Aug 2004 14:17:17

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Neil, Ryan, can you comment on what style you will play. I am a big fan when you guys play Trance, but if you intend on playing a House set, I will have 2nd thoughts about going.
- Thu 26 Aug 2004 13:54:52

Make that:

Neil, Ryan, can you comment on what style you will play. I am a big fan when you guys play House, but if you intend on playing a Trance set, I will have 2nd thoughts about going.
Adam - house house house! - Thu 26 Aug 2004 14:36:12

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Thu 26 Aug 2004 13:14:23

yeah, my ticket for HarbourLife

nothing personal, but I'm disapointed with such a bland line up. Sveta is the only one I'd be interested in hearing but she aint worth the $105 ticket price

the "selection process" was meant to be blind / annon ? it's uncanny that Shitgeki is playing in the RHI yet again

my 2 cents
Touche Eclat - Thu 26 Aug 2004 14:45:41
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Hoooray! I'm happy with that line up. Congrats to the DJs. I hope you all get sufficent time before kick off to do proper soundchecks, so that we can hear you at your best.

Now, who got the lighting tender?
Evil Twin - Thu 26 Aug 2004 14:47:10

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Re; Thu 26 Aug 2004 13:54:52 and yet, I am just the opposite!
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Touche Eclat - Thu 26 Aug 2004 14:45:41

Yes it is uncanny considering his boyfriend is no longer on the board and has nothing to do with MG anymore?
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"Neil, Ryan, can you comment on what style you will play. I am a big fan when you guys play House, but if you intend on playing a Trance set, I will have 2nd thoughts about going.
Adam - house house house! - Thu 26 Aug 2004 14:36:12"

I agree with you Adam!
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Yes, it would be nice to know what style of music Neal and Ryan are planning for their sets. If it's trance, I'll be there. If not, I think I'll save my energy (and money) for QN or Godskitchen (@Home on the Friday night)....
Trance Boy - Thu 26 Aug 2004 17:21:22

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It's a good line up, it's fresh and sufficiently sleazy esp. the whoreden. I also like the fact that Ryan Murphy is closing the RHI. There's something for everyone. Well done NMG!
Change is good! - Thu 26 Aug 2004 18:56:53

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Luke Leal, Alex Taylor, Jake Kilby, Anthony Whitlock, Dan Murphy, Shanobear... That's a fairly comprehensive list of established DJ's who missed out on Sleaze this year. I wonder how transparent the selection process really was??
- Thu 26 Aug 2004 10:45:29

All the ones selected are also "established" DJs. Except for Stephen Blomfield they all play regularly on the scene.
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Panther - Thu 26 Aug 2004 19:14:13

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Ok got the ticket.

Looking forward to a great dance now, good DJ line up.

But............please do something about the sound in the
RHI - surely with todays technology something can be done.

And it would be nice if some of those blowers ( mechanical kind ) could be in RHI circulating that hideous air that seems to build up late in the night.

Evil Twin and girlf - that drinks on again at midnight ?
T - Thu 26 Aug 2004 19:25:56

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Hi Gang,

Just wanted to drop you all a note to say I'm very much looking forward to playing for you all in the Retro Space again at Sleaze Ball. Its gonna be a tad weird not playing with Jake or Justin and I'm disappointed for Jake in the manner in which he was not considered but on the other hand I'm looking forward at the opportunity of playing with Jimmy as a new experience.

Feel free to suggest any requests from the 80's or 90's and I promise between the pair of us we will strongly consider them.

As for where the retro space will be, well that would be telling !

Roll on Sleaze Ball :)
Stephen Blomfield - Thu 26 Aug 2004 21:10:03

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my Sleaze wishlist:
- better sound in the RHI. I recall after Mardi Gras Luke saying he'd never play the RHI again with sound so appalling;
- lots of plastic chairs scattered around the edges of the halls. Most of us need a rest at some point...it really is uncouth sitting on the dirty floor;
- some kind of ventilation/fans/air con in the RHI...that tropical heat is more than a little overwhelming at times;
- a dancefloor in the Hordern. u-huh :)
- happy, smiling, friendly people out for a fun night!
bring it on! - Thu 26 Aug 2004 21:14:46

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Great,
I like the DJ line up will be a good night glad I got my ticket early.

As usual Sleaze be good well done for the DJ selection
Sammy D - Thu 26 Aug 2004 21:47:42

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Touche Eclat - Thu 26 Aug 2004 14:45:41

go check the party wall for Sveta news
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oh no! Neal on at the same time as Mandy
what to do?
- I'll have to do hourly circuits
how exciting
Bgrrl - Thu 26 Aug 2004 23:55:21

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There are now 36 Days to Sleaze Ball

There are now 36 Days to Sleaze Ball

There are now 36 Days to Sleaze Ball

There are now 36 Days to Sleaze Ball
countdownboy - Fri 27 Aug 2004 00:07:50

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"- better sound in the RHI. I recall after Mardi Gras Luke saying he'd never play the RHI again with sound so appalling;"

This is true. But it wasn't so much the quality of the sound (it was great if you were on one of those mini stages/podiums that were in front of each speaker stack) but that a SINGLE noise complaint from a local resident had the EPA (Enviromantal Protection Agency) come in and have the sound reduced for the ENTIRE night. I've played at least one party in the RHI before where there was a similar problem and as far as I know (though please prove me wrong) no one can garuntee that it won't happen again on the night.

Having said that though, despite my frustration and the oppresive humidity, the capacity crowd was overwhelmimgly responsive, completely soaked in sweat and extremely happy. Go figure.
www.lukeleal.com - Fri 27 Aug 2004 01:02:46

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"Unfortunately the DJ lineup in the RHI doesn't really give you an indication of what style of music that will be played."

Huh?

You obviously don't get out much. ;-)

Like the name says...
Trance Trance Trance - *sniffin* and *grievin* for the loss of my Lukey - Fri 27 Aug 2004 01:03:35

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Oh, and I bought my tix last week before the DJs were even selected. You gotta support the event no matter what.

Congrats to Ryan and Neal - and Go the Shigeki (forever loved for playing Kings of Tomorrow at Mardi Gras). Well done to Mike Kelly for his first.

Crying in my own private Discotheque for Luke!

Oh, well. On with the show.

Now - with a theme like "Porn" I suggest Viagra is obviously the look of choice for the evening... ;-)
Trance Trance Trance - Back to the music - DOOF doof Doof doof - Fri 27 Aug 2004 01:11:58

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Yes I hope something is done about sound proofing the RHI to some extent as it was too soft at MG2004! Some kind of ventilation as suggested would be good too.
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I'm very interested to know where the Retro space is going to be at this party. From what I hear City Live is not available for this party and Dome has been ruled out again after it was trialed and failed the litmus test at Big Queer Nation.
The only other space I can think of would be the Fox and Lion which has been used in the past. But thats quite a small 2 level building.

Anyway, regardless of where its going to be I'm pleased that New Mardi Gras has decided to have a retro space at Sleaze even though it doesn't exactly fit in with a Sleaze theme. In the end who cares if it isn't in theme if having a retro space brings more people through the gate.

I'm disappointed that Justin didn't submit a CD but that was his decision and I'm doubly disappointed Jake got shafted the way he did, however its great to see Stephen Blomfield back on deck and Jimmy Dee (for me) is an unknown quantity but I'm sure he'll keep up the high retro standards that prevailed at Mardi Gras this year.

I've got my ticket yesterday and now I'm all ready and raring to go. Now I've just got to get my thinking cap on and get some fun requests from the 80's happening ;)
Looking 4ward to the R*e*T*r*O space where ??? - Fri 27 Aug 2004 09:03:16

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Yes I hope something is done about sound proofing the RHI to some extent as it was too soft at MG2004"
- Fri 27 Aug 2004 08:33:29

Yeah, I'm sure Playbill Management will spend countless amounts of money to soundproof a venue that gets used twice a year.

Unless the gay community wants parties to be held at Olympic Park, I suggest you get used to the sound in the RHI. It's primarily an exhibition space - not a concert hall.
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It's not exactly a fresh lineup in the Hordern, first half copies Inquisition (without Feisty who seemed to bring out the best in Mandy) and two of the Hordern DJs also played Mardi Gras. Been to both parties - don't need to go again.
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Hmmmm a little birdy said that the retro space will be between the Hordern and the RHI in the form of a tent. Hope it it doesn't get too cold on the night but at least it will provide a warm (well almost warm) tunnel bewteen the 2 pavilions.
- Fri 27 Aug 2004 09:51:57

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Fri 27 Aug 2004 09:51:57

A Spring night in October in Sydney. I doubt it will be too cold. Sleaze is in October not June.
- Fri 27 Aug 2004 10:10:02

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The Sleaze DJ selection keeps it fresh
- smart lineup - Fri 27 Aug 2004 12:43:05

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The Sleaze DJ selection keeps it fresh
- smart lineup - Fri 27 Aug 2004 12:43:05

I don't understand what is fresh about it - the line up is fine, nothing wrong with that. But there is not a single new face in it. Hopefully we'll get something different at Mardi Gras.
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Ok folks, about the noise limitations - from someone still practising:

Quite simply, the collective Sound Pressure Level measured in db at the nearest perimeter to residents has a level set, normally about 3db obove ambient (normal for that time of day) levels. You can breathe louder than 3db quite easily so it's not a lot and controlling it is tough.

So, in short, it's the combination of all 3 venues at Sleaze that will affect the overall level and the subsequent lowering that WILL occur once the dead of night sets in and things like traffic and city noise subsides.

Any outside venues need to be especially designed and monitored as these will, because they don't have 'real' walls, contribute disproportionately to the overall level.

The most common area of the audio frequency spectrum that causes problems is the very low frequency 'thump thump thump' from 30Hz up to around 60Hz. As lower frequencies have longer wavelengths, this is understandable. It's a lot easier to control the mids and high frequencies when contained by walls.

Ways to help, you ask? Given my experience at outdoor gigs with noise limitations, let me offer a few suggestions - Adequate Budget, Proper Speaker selection and Appropriate Tuning:

'Adequate Budget' allows for more speaker boxes to be placed at smaller 'gaps' around each of the venues to allow for better coverage at lower level per box. Suppliers cost their systems by equipment - you get what you pay for (even after they all give massive discounts to organisations like Mardi Gras, Pride, etc.).

'Proper Speaker' selection means choosing speakers that 'throw' the sound to suit the required distance. There is no point in using a long throw speaker system if the distance required is only 20metres, as is the case in most of the venues to which we refer. The big companies in this city have a miriad of different systems for different applications. The smaller companies, by nature of being only able to afford one or other, generally are restricted in choice and quality.

'Appropriate Tuning' means a system that is 'clean' across all frequencies. This also relates to 'Speaker System' selection as some systems used do give messy, 'all over the place' bass response (a definite bad choice for Fox Studios). A clean sound does not have to be loud as everyone, even if they would prefer it rubbling their guts, can still hear the music when noise limitations apply.

Finally, in the old days, Mardi Gras had a granted 'Governor's Licence' to transmit 'White Noise' towards the residents to the East of the venues. This 'hash' that isn't particularly offensive at a distance actually artificially raised the ambient level at the perimeter. The music was then allowed to go the allowed db level above this 'new' and created ambient level. It was a total con. So if you think the levels have dropped over recent years, it's not your hearing from too many dance parties - you're right.

Hope this helps explain what Luke and others have had to endure trying to express their wares to you.
Noisy Gypsy - Fri 27 Aug 2004 13:53:57

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I highly agree with Ms Golightly's comments about confidentiality - I was really pissed off when one of the Inquisition DJs released the line up on this board before I'd been told by Inquisition that I wasn't playing.
- Thu 19 Aug 2004 09:43:28

At least they got back to you... some people didn't recieve a response at all.
- Fri 27 Aug 2004 13:59:29

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no new faces, true. The next generation, if you will...
I'm excited - for them - Fri 27 Aug 2004 14:02:12

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"the line up is fine...but there is not a single new face in it."

You're wrong, Neal hasn't done a Sleaze or Mardi Gras before so he IS "a single new face". Ryan & Shigeki have, if memory serves , just one Mardi Gras under their belt each so I would consider them kinda new too. In a hall that has been traditonally been dominated by Alex, Luke, Jake, Wayne, Paul and Greg for years, I would consider this a fresh line up.
KidRocket - Fri 27 Aug 2004 14:04:40

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Ah yes, finally regarding the internal sound monitoring - Mardi Gras needs someone co-ordinating the levels of all 3 rooms at the same time (within the site, not at the perimeter) who actually knows what they are talking about. A senior audio engineer for a major company will find it hard to decifer a production person whose wording doesn't exibit any understanding whatsoever as to what's needed.

Telling someone to turn everything down by 3db when it's only 40 or 50Hz causing the problem is ridiculous. This, I believe, is basically what happened in the RHI at Mardi Gras. Had the company concerned (and it's not the one I work for) been given better and more specific guidance on frequencies that were causing problems, they would have easily been able to isolate those frequencies only. They are a major company and do audio for a living - respect them and support them with adequate information at all times.

End of commentary.
NG - Fri 27 Aug 2004 14:07:07

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Telling someone to turn everything down by 3db when it's only 40 or 50Hz causing the problem is ridiculous. This, I believe, is basically what happened in the RHI at Mardi Gras. Had the company concerned (and it's not the one I work for) been given better and more specific guidance on frequencies that were causing problems, they would have easily been able to isolate those frequencies only. They are a major company and do audio for a living - respect them and support them with adequate information at all times.

End of commentary.
NG - Fri 27 Aug 2004 14:07:07

Why would the sound be turned down 3dB? That's 50% by my reckoning. If it was such a narrow band of freqencies causing the problem, I find it hard to believe that an experienced sound desk operator would have a problem isolating the cause. It's not like you've got a live gig to work with either.

Besides this, the RHI was steamy before the party really got started, and all that heat and damp would have slowed the sound down (ie dampened the response, buffered the mid-range - which is hardest to control) hence the low quality and poor dynamic range. I know it's not an outdoor space, but the RHI is large enough for this to be a significant factor.

Let's hope it doesn't happen again. No rain dancing this time people!
- Fri 27 Aug 2004 14:30:16

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Fri 27 Aug 2004 14:04:40

arh ! there be a few errors in that statement !
the sea captain - Fri 27 Aug 2004 14:50:31

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Actually Neal Crawford played Sleaze last year - I'm sure that he closed the Hordern.
- Fri 27 Aug 2004 15:47:33

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"the line up is fine...but there is not a single new face in it."
You're wrong, Neal ha