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Sleaze Ball 2003 Graffiti Wall 2

Firstly, do not be blazé about the effects and dangers of drugs. If in doubt, say no. Don't pressure your friends to do things they are not comfortable doing.
Secondly, look after your friends. If anything does go wrong go to Medical. They are there to make sure we have a safe party.

Have a great Sleaze! Panther

that way, the other walls could be censored and there wouldn't need to be this constant debate over material in the graffiti walls
maybe a silly idea, but it is one - Mon 29 Sep 2003 23:38:58

Good point, well made.
- Tue 30 Sep 2003 07:57:04

An PRA perspective, the emergency department's primary focus is the patient's well being, not policing the law, or taking on any sort of parental/judgemental role. We are far too busy, overdoses far too common and have got far more important things to worry about. No single entity, nurse, doctor, clinitian is going to take it on themselves to call up the police to report an overdose or any type of drug use. The police would not be terribly interested in any case, they're far too busy as well. geeze they're not terribly interested when someone has been shot or stabbed. It's all very ho hum, that's the reality, and like, I'm yet to see a nurse or doctor in the ED or ICU who could be bothered with that side of the situation.
- Tue 30 Sep 2003 09:31:10

For my two cents worth, I don’t think a poster sells an event like Sleaze. If you select a target market (that is realistic, not just all people who might want to go out on the night of the 4/10) and find out what they want and tailor the event to them then people will go. These days I perceive Sleaze as a night time Big Day Out, only the dress sense is WORSE!
KitCat - Tue 30 Sep 2003 11:53:43

So you bought your ticket then ?
Josh - Tue 30 Sep 2003 11:59:54

Mmmm Stephen Kidman.....move on..this topic has been discussed, disected, bitched about, applauded, for the last month on pinkboard.....Get over it!!! Any one with any marketing experience knows that if a campaign is not working then you update it...exactly what the guys at NMG did.

You need to catch up with everybody else Stephen, and look forward to what will be a great night...and if your'e not there, then all the better for those of us who will be!!!!
We've all moved on, and can see past the poster mate ...why can't you!
Sick of your slanging - Tue 30 Sep 2003 12:01:25

not where you think you should be..
- Tue 30 Sep 2003 13:01:35

pleease stop - its getting dull......i doubt anyone in Sydney has heard of Kimchi..............but if Mr #1 Fan (hahahaha) you could enlighten us to where he is playing this week that would be super i will go and then critique.

last minute Queer Nation tix www.queernation.com.au
- Tue 30 Sep 2003 13:12:33

Thank you so much for your insight and marketing advice. I am sure that NMG could use someone like you on their marketing team. Oh sorry, thats right, you dont have time to volunteer your services... you are too busy criticising those we give hours and hours of their time to community organisations.

Buy a ticket to sleaze, get laid, and hopefully it will move the stick thats up your.....
- Tue 30 Sep 2003 13:28:06

Well...no.... the point was that people need to know that an emergency medical response doesn't automatically engender a police response. The poster who made the point suggested that people would stop seeking ED help if they thought that clinical staff would "dob them in." And the poster is right. They would. And then the chances of people experiencing much more adverse outcomes would be greatly increased. And that wouldn't be very good....would it :)

That doesn't in any way detract from your excellent point that a Saturday night
withou an OD would be a bloody fine thing.
- Tue 30 Sep 2003 14:36:03

It's a Korean pickle delicacy. isn't it?
- Tue 30 Sep 2003 16:12:53

hahahahahahahahahahahahaha...priceless reply to kidman. well done!!
- Tue 30 Sep 2003 16:25:40

Moving on, does any have the right time/right hall for this Russian Olympic
aerial artist ? I bet it will be a real mind blower and would love to be
there.
No guesses please.

Where is Inside Phantom ? or at least his/her replacement ?
Just enjoy - Tue 30 Sep 2003 17:30:34

There was a huge queue at Ticketek by Hyde Park yesterday lunch time which is real weird for a monday, as most of the usual suspects would be recovering fromn the weekend.

Someone also told me that the discounts and concessions do not apply to Saturday night sales ? Can anyone confirm?
- Tue 30 Sep 2003 18:26:06

The small amount of info he would reveal about shows sounds great, Lot's of lasers etc, openning show in RHI, he said do not miss!

As for city live / stage 11, he said lots of black curtains, will be nothing like Inquisition's terrible lighting. Also heard there's a leatherman show in there after 1.00am.

cheers
- Wed 1 Oct 2003 08:46:22

Oh I'm awfully sorry love, but I've already reserved that cubicle at that exact time for a cookery demonstration. I think third on the left is free at 2am however. As long as you don't mind the aroma of my fresh scones.
Sally Tomato - Wed 1 Oct 2003 18:01:51

Please NMG can we have times ? PLEASE ?????????????????????
I really hate having to waste 1/2hr before a show being all squashed up on the
dance floor to find out its not what I wanted to watch ie it would be great
to know what time the trapeze will be as I reckon it will be a blow out and hopefully can just rock up 15mins before without wasting valuable time.

I dont know why they dont publish the times. Cant be because of too large crowds etc as once its full they close the doors anyway.
Please NMG pulish the show times ? - Wed 1 Oct 2003 18:35:14

The toilets upstairs or the toilets down stairs? (one must know his Horden toilets) I'm happy with no sex spaces, it only attracts undesired attention. 2nd or 3rd cubicle on the left will suit just fine, don't have to dodge the groapers this way anyways.

Xane, crazy Xane
- Wed 1 Oct 2003 19:21:17

errr, people *could* be buying Rubgy Tickets
they do sell tix for other things at that outlet ...
- Wed 1 Oct 2003 23:00:14

Xane, crazy Xane
- Wed 1 Oct 2003 19:21:17

Aren't there just 2 cubicles in the upstairs loo ? They are a nice size though !
Josh - Thu 2 Oct 2003 09:01:42

Heard about the Rugby World Cup, Love? :)
- Thu 2 Oct 2003 09:25:10

Probably to attract more female punters. God knows it's hard to spot the women through the sea of men.
Dyke punter - Thu 2 Oct 2003 10:21:26

get over yourself
- Thu 2 Oct 2003 13:52:08

you are a git!
- Thu 2 Oct 2003 13:56:18

got that?
Good advice, Panther!!! - Thu 2 Oct 2003 15:24:43

wow.
- Thu 2 Oct 2003 17:13:05

I asked them did they enjoy the Mardi Gras Festival . Not only the party but
Fair Day , Shop to you drop etc etc etc . They realised what I was on about and their are plenty of other times to go to QN or Ruby etc so they are now
going - VICTORY..............
Might be just a couple of extra guys but if others do it...........Also the
ones saying " I'm over parties" rang me today and guess what ! The hype
as got them going now...............

Does anyone know when the trapeze guy will be on ? dont wanna waste time running into the RHI to check each show.
Just would like to know - Thu 2 Oct 2003 19:10:55

Everyone I know is going. And everyone that knows everyone I know is going. So who really cares about negative little old you?
- Thu 2 Oct 2003 22:12:54

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a pinky pink countdownboy - Fri 3 Oct 2003 00:20:52

Obviously you don't know many people.
heaps of people i know are going - Fri 3 Oct 2003 06:21:21

Rugby LEAGUE dear. The grand final is on this Sunday.

Christ even straights know when MG is on, don't you think you should know the straight equivalent?
- Fri 3 Oct 2003 06:35:57

This "atrracting female punter" debate has been discussed before.

There are some people who believe that no matter how much you try, you aren't going to get 50/50 split between men and women participating in a range of community activities ie. MG membership has also vastly skewed towards gay men, same with MG/sleaze ticketing, same with participation in social/sporting groups, nightclubs and bars etc.

There are probably several reasons for this ranging from women not identifyingw with these orgs etc, to women feeling overwhelmed and unwelcome by men at these places, or even just the idea that there are simply more gay men than there are lesbians.

The idea that we should keep on having gender parity in all instances of advertising and board representation starts to grate on people after a couple of decades because no matter what we do we can't get women being 50% of the G&L (visible) community.

And there are times when it's more than just effort that is "wasted". Sometimes it's financial - and heavy financial waste. an example is the old MG festival event "Celebration of the female voice" which was designed to be a large women's event yet was vastly underattended (and lost lots of money) for 2 years running.

I don't think that Stephen is a mysoginist just because he sees gender parity as something that doesn't work in practice.
- Fri 3 Oct 2003 06:43:52

I'm going alone, I've just turned 40, I'll be wearing a little leather, and am even performing in the leather show in stage 11.

Have fun everyone, remember it's our party, so let's all enjoy.

See you on the dance floor.

cheers
- Fri 3 Oct 2003 08:01:23

that's sad. i'm going, though. if you want, you can get to know me. I'll be the approachable one, smiling and dancing by myself.
ya can never have enough mates - Fri 3 Oct 2003 10:04:37

exactly! I am going with a bunch of lesbians, so will be almost craving some male contact! Enjoy everyone!
B - Fri 3 Oct 2003 11:23:33

Can't it be that the organisers of Sleaze wanted to use women in the campaign just for the hell of it? Does it have to be an issue if they use more women then men? Men are going to go to the party anyway.
- Fri 3 Oct 2003 11:24:31

NMG, whether you like it or not, is a coalitionist organisation. Whether you like it or not, we lesbians are around and we deserve to party as much as you boys. And believe it or not, the youth market includes lesbians as well as gay men. We don't suddenly turn 40 when we come out as a lesbian.

I really hate when people like you use phrases like 'the voice of reason' and 'anybody that questions it gets shouted down by a small but vocal fringe of lesbians' in order to justify their attitudes toward women being involved in our community. Because then small but vocal lesbians with a fringe, such as myself, stand up for themselves and call you a git and you then will try and come back and say 'you see what I mean, this is just what they are like'.

Keep up the good (coalitionist) work NMG, even if the first poster wasn't a hit. And Stephen,I'll be there tomorrow night with my GF and just to warn you in advance I will be at MG 2004 as will a lot of us gals, so you will just have to deal
small but vocal fringed lesbian - Fri 3 Oct 2003 11:48:45

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countdownboy - Fri 3 Oct 2003 12:10:02

Happy to sleaze to all the happy sleaze goers!
- Fri 3 Oct 2003 12:53:17

excellent...I was worried you'd be late for the party after so long counting down to the excitement :)
- Fri 3 Oct 2003 13:05:45

Stephen, is this true? are you really an open minded, intelligent person just playing devils advocate??...I hope for your sake you are, cause it would be pretty sad and lonely in your little world if you are what you write!
glass is half full - Fri 3 Oct 2003 13:32:33

Advice 1) Put em high!
Advice 2) Push em high!

I think there's something in that for all of us this w/end. Happy and safe sleaze to all, and if any DJ's are reading, you know what song would absolutely make my night.....everybody lives for the music go roundddddddddddd
Ms Golightly - Fri 3 Oct 2003 14:59:33

mary had a little lamb cause she was into animals
- Fri 3 Oct 2003 16:05:42

The only questions are: have we tried all the tactics we can to get women involved? and is it time to accept that women are never going to make up 50% of our community?
- Fri 3 Oct 2003 16:55:17

A - Suspended from the ceiling.
Think about that on Saturday night. - Fri 3 Oct 2003 17:15:24

I would love to say ignore Stephen Kidman ( still want a toilet named after him, so appropriate and everyone can take a s... on him ! ) but sometimes you do have to reply to these "types".

Ignore him luv, the Stephens of this world are the ones that swirl into a company , create havoc with their ideas , then leave the company in a mess.
Worked with that type so many times I can recognise them within 5 minutes of
an interview.

Have a great weekend boyf and girlf.

I hope to catch up with Evil Twin and Ms Golightly who have described themselves and I'm pretty good at searching people out at a party.
Just to buy you a drink - Fri 3 Oct 2003 18:11:36

There has been enough tragedy in the last month, lets make this a better one, by staying of the G and being careful with the K.

Everybody have a great weekend, have fun, and as Jerry say
look after yourselves - and each other.

Currently going off to Ferry Corsten - Ministry of Sound Session 12-06-02
rambling man - Fri 3 Oct 2003 18:47:03

You can bet that we will be judged more critically if we don't put in a bit of extra effort. The G thing has turned many more eyes upon us. A dose of realism before I disappear into the fantasy of the never-ending party...
ahhhhh - Fri 3 Oct 2003 19:00:12

Cold weather dance parties tend to get people more amourous and looking for sex on the night.

YAY !!!!
- Fri 3 Oct 2003 19:27:24

Wishing everyone a happy and SAFE sleaze.

Watch out for your friends, cause I know they'd watch out for you.

Anybody that knows me please come and say hi and dance with me in the RHI (you know where). I'll best be found dancing during Jake Kilbys set from 1 - 5am

All the best everybody, Happy Sleaze. Its gonna be great given what I saw in the RHI this afternoon.
countdownboy - Fri 3 Oct 2003 22:06:02

I can't make it to the party tomorrow night (BooHoo) but hope that you all have a fantastic time enjoying the lights, the music, and the crowd!!!!

Have a great night!!!
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countdownboy - Sat 4 Oct 2003 08:10:27

Rambling Man - I dont think ( hope ) this will be the last Sleaze in Hordern.
So long as the Community supports these events they will continue but at worst
the RHI would bite the dust ( my guess ) and just Hordern and Dome/Stage 11 etc.

I know its an old arguement but for 3 nites of the year ( including Pride NYE )
there are usually enough halls / styles of music to keep the majority happy and
the $'s raised help the community so not only do you get to make a donation you get a party as well.
Just the best of both worlds - Sat 4 Oct 2003 08:39:17

You forgot to add Anthony Whitlock to your lineup. 5.30 to 8am - Galleria!
- Sat 4 Oct 2003 10:22:43

NMG has found a "work around" for a sex area.. That is correct they found a soluition at 11am on Friday this week. Does anybody know any more details?

Also the russian dude hanging from the roof is going on at 1:00pm and from what i know it is going to snow inside the hall also...

No international acts this year at all. However great locals and one well known group... well that is the goss for now... anybody know any more?
Pride in PR - Sat 4 Oct 2003 16:11:57
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The Final Countdown - Sat 4 Oct 2003 20:37:49

And the reason that NMG would not do a early ticket deal is I think simply due to the fact that it near sells out anyway. Why short change yourself? If the fact is that 70% of the tickets sell in the last week before the event then it is just a fact to live with.

Well guys i hear that late today Sleaze sold out... If not it did not have many tickets available. and remember last MG? thats right it sold out at the gate and they turned people away.

Such is life live with it.....
Pride in PR - Sat 4 Oct 2003 20:46:21

The Horden however did the trick! Great music Great atmosphere and people were really friendly. The first show was absolutely amazing as well - best ever.
- Sun 5 Oct 2003 15:58:30

You really nailed it in my opinion.

Lots of good classics and some fine current tunes too.

On another note I was disappointed for all the DJ's in the RHI. For some bizarre reason New Mardi Gras decided to break with a long standing tradition in dance parties by not introducing or back announcing the DJ's names on the microphone.

This robbed the guys of there well deserved applause and because the music was continuous unless you knew what time it was as well as the changeover times you wouldnt have even known that a DJ changeover actually happened.

Lets not see this happen again please NMG
stephen - Sun 5 Oct 2003 20:40:39

I should give a little context...i actually thought sleaze was going to go the way of all the big parties and fail...i only attended because I believed this Sleaze could well be the last!

Well, I would like to be the first to put my hand up to say I was proved wrong. The entire visual and schematics of this years sleaze were remarkable and completely different from anything in the past. The altar like status the DJ was elevated to in the RHI was fantastic - that luminated light box simply floated above the dance floor (though certain dj's really didn't live up to the elevation). Moreover, the "drowned world" treatment of the horden was simply fantastic and worked on every level. To the party directors, I would like to give an unreserved "well done" and thanks for showing the public that new mardi gras can present an innovative, fresh, exciting new product.

Now as for my night....i saw a butch dyke with a curvey girl who I presumed was evil twin...alas, it was not. DJ Josh nailed it, and to the dirty big leather spunk who missed his boyfriend and spent all night dancing with me....well, you know who you are (you ran off with the football guy if you need a reminder)...big regrets about not snogging you...so remember me for next year if you are a pinkboarder...absolute total spunk if you need a reminder.

Just finished recovery and looking forward to a comfortable warm (single) bed in a few minutes. Hope you all enjoyed it as much as me!
Ms Golightly - Mon 6 Oct 2003 00:10:41

NMG got it right in just about every aspect this time and congratulations need to go to everyone involved.

Now to the DJ's (well the ones we saw anyway)... Firstly I agree with one of the above comments which said the dj's need to be announced and thanked when they finish.

After touring the different venues when we arrived, I have to say that it was a toss up between Mandy Rollins and Ryan Murphy for the best opening set of the night.

We ended up catching most of Ryans set and this really set our scene for the night. Brilliant in every aspect.

Mandy was up to her usual high standards but I just wasn't certain with the venue....

Saw Shigeki as well and was a little dissapointed after hearing so many good reports about his work, I felt his set just wasn't working so we ended back at Ryan till the changeover.

DJ Josh seemed to start slowly which after the awesome set by Ryan sort of changed the vibe that was happening. After a few tracks, we decided to head to the RHI but I heard reports that Josh really picked up towards the middle of the set and ended up kicking butt.

When we got to the RHI, I think it wa Jake Kilby doing a retro set! This was great fun to hear Cathy Dennis and Stevie Nicks songs ( I hope I got this right, I know both these songs were played but not sure if they were both by Jake). Unfortunately I think the retro set went maybe just one or two songs too many as the dancefloor was starting to empty towards the end of this section, however Jake picked it up and threw everything he had at the crowd. Eventually the crowd came back and Jake showed why he has such a good reputation. Excellent set overall, well done.

Finally Alex Taylor, I've not hear him play before but his reputation certainly preceeded him. After the brilliance of Jake Kilby I was really expecting big things, unfortunately I was a little let down. I think the selection of songs was great but the choice of mixes was not all that good. Too many times the music would just go dead in the middle of the mix and everyone just standing around ooking at each other, waiting for the beats to starts again. This sort of thing is ok in 1 or 2 songs but it seemed like almost every track Alex played did this, resulting in a very dis-jointed sounding set.

In summary;

Ryan Murphy - Stunning, outstanding and by far the best on the night.
Jake Kilby - Brilliant easily the best in the RHI.
Mandy Rollins - Sensational as ever, shame about the venue though.
Alex Taylor - Great but less breaks in the music would have been preferable.
Shigeki - Good but it's always hard going first.

Finally to the two muscle guys who danced near us all night, I think they were Simon and George. You guys looked fantastic and it was great chatting and dancing with you both.
DJ Shanobear (aka the Croc Hunter) - Mon 6 Oct 2003 08:02:03

The lights and lasers in the RHI and Horden were astounding. Some of my friends were transfixed by the lasers in the RHI towards the end of Jake Kilbys set.

I felt the lighting in City Live left a lot to be desired especially with all those steps around the place.

The rotating DJ booth in the Horden was a really great sight to see.

The sound in the RHI was a bit flat from the sidelines but once you got on the dancefloor, it was crystal clear and perfect volume. Loud enough to drive everyone wild but you could still have a quick chat to others when the need arose.

The crowd this year were a lot more positive and friendly than last years crowd. It seemed like everyone was out to party and that's exactly what we did.

Just explaining the Croc hunter tag, my partner and I went dressed as the Croc Hunter and wife (rather ironic when we are two big hairy bears!). We got a lot of great comments from people and had a lot of fun with the costumes.
DJ Shanobear - Mon 6 Oct 2003 12:17:25

One downer, why the Lesbian space? I was rejected and ejected as I tried to go upstairs at Stage 11. How offensive is that. I really thought the Sydney Dyke community had grown up and evolved. Obviously not. If the dykes want their own party why don't they just organise it SOMEWHERE ELSE rather than demonstrating separatism the the new generation. Be ashamed.

Woof Bear.
- Mon 6 Oct 2003 12:27:10

It was quite different standing back and watching how every body behaved. ANd yes it is also possible to dance in this odd natural state.

Well done to the new Mardi Gras for a well put on party. It's about time we all just got over the past events of the previous MG board failure, September 11, increased insurance costs etc etc. Let's get over those things and be successful again.

That opening show! WOW! That was spectacular! There was almost too much to look at. What I also found interesting is I do not believe there were any celebrity performances. Can anyone clarify if there were some performances?

You know it really isn't that hard to get someone to perform at the show. All the local talent we have and the fabulous volunteer dancers that always support our community could help put a great performance together. To the local celebs out there, do you know how much good PR and support you would get from our community if you volunteered one free performance? It's priceless PR work.

The rhi was very nicely done with plenty of dark spaces and space to move. The hordern was very different with the revolving DJ in the centre. I wonder if there were any dizzy or sea sick DJ's by the end of their set. Don't know about the no floor boards in the hordern? Did anyone have trouble with sore feet? Did anyone actually get into city live? What was in the girls space?
partyboy - Mon 6 Oct 2003 13:56:24

The opening show was 100/10 - more of that kind of show please,the crowd was
screaming and cheering. So much better than 50 people just dancing to tune.

But........................
Please put the wooden dance floor back into the Hordern ! by aching feet will thank you - Mon 6 Oct 2003 16:10:39

We looked around for Pinkboarders, but even missed seeing our beautifully roped up mate who we *always* see at parties. We missed the dome because we could always find people we knew there. However, we picked up the party posse early on and always had someone to hang out with.

The music? Well, wandering around let us pick and choose. Spent the most time in the RHI I guess, excellent lighting, nice walking space, and plenty of good tunes to dance to. The Horden, argh! where were all the seats? My girl ended up with a dirty bottom from sitting on the steps. One less video screen and a few more rows of seats would have been lovely. I can't complain about the music really. The DJs did their job, worked hard, and I didn't see an unpacked floor.

We left about 6.34am and walked to a friends place, and then home for sleep. Would have liked to do the girls recovery, but slept through it! We ended up at the Lord Roberts and got Ben Drayton playing just for us. That was exceptionally cool, as it felt like we were sitting in his louge room, having relaxing ales and winding down (and coming back up a bit too). He so picked exactly the right music. Yay.

Took a walk up Oxford St this arvo but didn't see too many trash bags. Well done! It was all good, and congrats to NMG for a fine party.
Evil Twin - Mon 6 Oct 2003 17:16:01

Now for some constructive critisism -

Firstly re City Live - New Mardi Gras should be TOTALLY ashamed and embarrassed with themselves for the way they allowed "OUR COMMUNITY" to be divided by allowing the top level of City Live to be a space where only females could enter. Talk about dividing our community rather than bringing us all together. At the VERY least if a girls area is to be allowed then the men should deserve equal rights and also have a space (and I dont mean a sex space). I'd also like to question what was actually going on up in that little girls only area. I just wonder if if was a sex space for the girls. I for one will never know. Maybe evil twin or another lesbian pinkboarder could enlighten us ? My final comment on this topic is that NMG should NEVER allow this to happen again unless you intend only treating both genders equally and either provide no gender space at all or a gender space both male and female. What happened on Saturday night was sheer gender discrimination. I am appauled.

Whilst on City Live I felt disappointed for the DJ's due to the positioning of the DJ Box. I ran into Buck Naked after he had finished his set at about 6am and commented to him that I thought the fact that the DJ box was all the way up against the back wall of the stage was a bit silly. DJ's need to feel in touch with the crowd and to me it seemed logical that the DJ box should have been up near the edge of the stage closer to the people on the dance floor. Buck indicated to me that due to the positioning of the DJ Box that his line of sight cut out about the first 20 or so metres of people on the dance floor.

Now the RHI -

A previous poster made comment about the DJ's not being introduced or thanked via the microphone. I totally agree with this comment. Jake Kilby played one the best sets of his life in my opinion only to be told that after he played his last song at 5am that he made to mixed in (with no gap) the 5am show tune. He then had to pack his stuff up swap with Alex Taylor and then Alex had to start up. I would say 95% of the people in that room wouldnt have had the foggiest idea that happened. DJ's need to be announced pure and simple.

I also found it VERY disconcerting that the DJ was placed miles up in the air in a different stage to where the lighting operaters where. There are two things wrong with this -

1. Lighting operators sometimes like to know what song is coming up next cause they can manipulate what lights to use to particular tracks that have certain highs and lows in them. No communication between DJ and Lighting operator can sometimes result in incorrect lighting for the mood of a particular song.

2. By having the DJ in the RHI perched up so high he loses alot of crowd interaction. I am a personal friend of all 3 of the DJ's that played the RHI on Saturday and I was really disappointed that I could give them a wave from the dance floor. I tried to , but it meant having to stand about 10-20 metres into the centre of the dance floor by which time there was no hope of the DJ spotting me from that distance. DJ's thrive on seeing people in the crowd that they are friends with and traditionally most friends and acquantances of the playing DJ tend to dance in front of the DJ so they can show their support and admiration for that DJ. For years and years all my social group have said before a party "OK, I'll meet you on the dance floor in front of the DJ box". Saturday night threw that theory into chaos and as a result I actually didnt see a few of my friends during the night. I felt the RHI DJ's on Saturday were robbed of the opportunity to see their friends dancing in eye sight with looks of admiration and thanks. I know its sounds a bit petty but unless you have experienced the thrill of seeing up close your life long friends getting off on your music then you really wouldnt undertand how important this is.

As far as the Hordern is concerned I cant really say much cause I spent a grand total of about 20 minutes in there. The layout looked fantastic and the place was going off. I just wonder how demoralising it was for the DJ's going round and round on that spinning wheel in the DJ box. Fancy spending about two thirds of your set facing the back wall and not being able to see your crowd ? Whilst the effect might have been good visually for the crowd I'm sure it would have been a major bummer for the DJ's concerned.

Finally, I'd like to go back to Jake Kilby who was the run away winner of the best DJ at Sleaze ball 2003.

My highlights were so numerous but if I had to name a few then they would be that new cover version of Stevie Nicks 'Rooms on Fire' , That new mix of Jinnys 'Keep Warm' , Ambers 'Above the Clouds' and of course that bootleg Dead or Alive vs Dannii of 'I Begin to wonder'... Ps - I could have done without that version of ABBA's 'The Visitors' , but hey you cant win them all. Well done Jake you did yourself proud.

Thank you to New Mardi Gras. You truly excelled on the night. It was a really top notch event.
countdownboy - Counting the 152 days to go to Mardi Gras - Mon 6 Oct 2003 17:25:37

I thought the curtained area at the end of the bar downstairs was the boys sex space, cause it was awfully gropey when I walked through it. Downstairs was rather blokey, but it was supposed to be the Dome stand-in and that usually had a high bloke to girl ratio.
Evil Twin (not a seperatist) - Mon 6 Oct 2003 18:19:18

Quote - "NMG has found a "work around" for a sex area.. That is correct they found a soluition at 11am on Friday this week. Does anybody know any more details?"

My question - Was this fact or fiction ? Did anybody find a sex space and if so where ?
- Mon 6 Oct 2003 18:40:59

I just want to say thank you to all. I had a great time playing in the RHI at sleaze and that is due to the great crowd, great lighting design and operation and party production. The RHI looked the best it ever has, in my opinion, and the lighting operator and visual operator did an amazing job. A special thanks to Brad Wright for his amazing work. Music is important but the atmosphere is lost if the lights aren't right (or in this case, Wright!).

From my perspective, everyone seemed to be having a good time and that's all I really care about. I hope you all enjoyed yourselves and its good to see that most of the comments above are positive and that a majority of the negative ones are worded constructively (apart from one or two nasty ones).

Lastly, on the G topic, I was a little disheartened to see someone passed out and carried out of the RHI just after I finished playing. I can't positively say this person was on G, it could have been any drug taken in excess (hopefully not my music?!?), but the likelyhood is that it was G. Please be careful everyone.
JK - Mon 6 Oct 2003 18:47:56

The womens space, I was not aware that men could not go there, they should have been, but frankly I don't mind at all giving the women their own space. The party is probably 75%+ dominated by men. Although not official, the idea was that upstairs was the womens space and downstairs the mens. I do though disagree with stopping people entering a space.

Regarding the DJ's in the Horden spending two thirds of their set facing the back wall, umm, the DJ location was in the middle of the dance floor, at no time was the DJ facing a back wall.

Cheers

Colin - member of Sleaze party working group

PS Loved reading the so called inside info on the party, snow in the RHI - felt like snow outside maybe..
PPS To those that didn't like the parts of the party, get involved next time and change it!
- Mon 6 Oct 2003 19:15:47

"I disagree with you countdownboy about the DJ in RHI being out of touch with the crowd. I've only been going to parties for three years, and in the past I've not had a clue where the DJ was even located because they were not lit up or highlighted in any way I saw Shigeki at one stage getting the crowd to clap and cheer with him, that certainly doesn't happen when the DJ's up on a unlit black box like they usually are, eg. past MG parties, ARQ... "

What a load of hogwash !

At EVERY previous Mardi Gras or Sleaze everybody knows where the DJ is due to the fact that there is only ONE set of scaffholding where the lighting and DJ have been located. The DJ has always been lite up albeit in a red or a blue light. Please dont bring the stupid and pathetically positioned DJ box at ARQ into this discussion - it has no relavence whatsoever to this topic as ARQ is clearly not a dance party, its just a nightclub. As for the Hordern, I have no comment as I didnt leave the RHI all night.

I think countdown boys comments are all spot on and they come from a person who has clearly been there done that given some of his comments re the "inside" workings of parties and DJ's expections of what they expect.

And what about all the other comments he made about various topics that you swept under the carpet and failed to comment on ? Do you agree or disagree or dont you want to give credit where credit is due to a person who put alot of time and effort into his posting.

Finally Craig, You "claim" to be a member of the Sleaze party working group yet you had no idea that men were being excluded from the top level of Stage 11 space. For you not to know this I'd say you werent doing your job properly OR you need to ask some serious questions to others on your committee why this information was withheld from you. I agree with countdownboy that seperatism of a space like that is wrong and should never happen again unless equal rights are extended to male and female each obtaining a space. Personally I'd rather see no segregated spaces ever again.

Sleaze was a brilliant party. I enjoyed the whole night and thank you to all the DJ's who did a damn fine job.

PS - Didnt you know that it snowed outside during the night - I built this cute little muscle mary snowman :P
just a boi - Mon 6 Oct 2003 22:13:33
This is the opinion of the poster.

Now Jake...why is it that stevie nicks gets played when Kim Wilde not only had much better hair but also was the first diva to exploit the full potential of the wind machine...need i mention, she was so far ahead of the crowd in terms of those striped john-paul gaultier tee's....go figure, i say!
Ms Golightly - Mon 6 Oct 2003 22:57:37

They advertised the laneway recovery starting at 5am, we had a group of people meeting us there at 7am only to find the place padlocked.

Very dissapointed but we ended up at the recovery for the bears instead upstairs at the Oxford and had a great time.
DJ Shanobear - Tue 7 Oct 2003 07:34:13

NMG, please let's raise the DJ's profile a little more. Excellent party, regardless. The crowd was so well behaved and I was proud to be part of it.

EVERYBODY - take a bow!!
Andrew - Tue 7 Oct 2003 08:41:39

You played stevie nicks for your bf?...ah shucks...that's too cute! My first husband once dedicated "tainted love" to me at karaoke but i am not sure that was with the kindest of intentions. Anyhow, Ms Golightly managed to pop home between the party and the recovery and listen to her very own 1981 original copy of "Kim Wilde" - so scratched its positively Manchester baby ! (let me know if you want to borrow it)

by the way...more snaps to you for listening to and providing feedback on pinkboard. it's great to see
Ms Golightly - Tue 7 Oct 2003 10:20:04

The lighting and lasers where sensational and transporting - just what a gay boy needs now and then and make time on earth bearable.

I would love to go back - but I know that forward is the only way to go...and at least I have new knowledge to move me closer to where I belong.

Thank you New Magic Gras - it was magic. Let's hope we can all continue to value what we have here and that our parties do no dissappear.
Lucifer - Tue 7 Oct 2003 10:40:00

Sorry to correct you but that track Jake played 'rooms on fire' was only a cover version by a group called Europa XL featuring Natalie James. It wasnt Stevie Nicks singing it (although it did sound alot like Stevie).

To answer the question by DJ Shanobear - Tue 7 Oct 2003 07:34:13

The Flinders Hotel went into receivership 3 weeks ago and the owners have been locked out via a court order. The owners are the same people that also own the Venus Room which they have also have been locked out of for the last 3 weeks. I ran into a few of the drag queens who work at Venus Room at Sleaze and they are all very pissed off cause some of them have back pay owing and some have also got costumes in the dressing room which they have been told they wont be allowed to gain access to.

It looks like the Flinders laneway recoveries are now officially part of history. Its such a shame it came to this.
Sold Out - Tue 7 Oct 2003 11:02:52

Please dont again meddle with the tradition of announcing DJ's via a PA system.

DJ's bust their guts preparing their sets for the party as well as working under extreme pressure on the night. All they ask for in return is a bit of acknowledgement in the way of a 30 second gap in the music so they can get a round of applause thanking them. Having their name displayed on a screen just doesnt come close to the high you get when thousands of sets of hands are clapping in unison.
Peter K - Tue 7 Oct 2003 11:14:56

Why try to undo all the good work?
deep cover - Tue 7 Oct 2003 11:53:59

sexy guy with brain - Tue 7 Oct 2003 11:29:58....that could well have been me. I was momentarily bored and was telling anybody who would listen that I was Stephen Kidman and that i found the party to be non-representational vis-a-vis either poster 1 or 2, ergo, i wanted a refund. sorry for any confusion!
Ms Golightly - Tue 7 Oct 2003 12:29:15

How much did you spend this weekend? Outfits, cabs, tickets, etc...

I didn't go to Sleaze, so I didn't spend much at all. I wish I'd gone, though.
- Tue 7 Oct 2003 13:26:19

As for being interrupted while pashing off, how rude! We went into the middle of the RHI floor looking for the sexiest bunch of dancers, and then started getting amourous. The polite gay boys around us ignored us with style, grace and good humour.
Evil Twin - Tue 7 Oct 2003 14:41:40

Hey, I was there and I had SO much fun.... loved the shows, music, happy crowd, everything. Thanks to the party boys who were so considerate to a little 5'6" dyke in the middle of the RHI...and to the gorgeous grrrls who were dancing with me. We were there and we will be back next year - suck it up and deal with it.
party grrrl - Tue 7 Oct 2003 14:57:32

May the summer season commence!
Lil - Tue 7 Oct 2003 16:56:07

But why oh why are big parties not selling out any more. There is nowhere else where you can be that way. It is amazing how the dancing is different at a party.
- Tue 7 Oct 2003 16:56:13

The RHI was a bit of a disappointment for me. The music was dull and predictable (although I didn't hear any of Jake Kilby's set, so can't comment about that), and the sound quality was below my expectations. If it wasn't for the Horden, I'd be wishing I hadn't gone. The first and last shows were impressive, however. Obviously a lot of effort went into both of them.
- Tue 7 Oct 2003 16:58:24

Today however is totally different. And whilst I feel a bit tired I am feeling my normal self.

I attribute this to the fact that Sleaze ball 2003 was different, outstanding and most of all it was FUN.

It wasnt the same old same old fox studio party that we have attributed to recent years.

The crowd numbers (I believe it was nearly 11,000) was PERFECT for the event. Never at any stage was the RHI or HOrdern packed to the point where you couldnt move around freely. Mardi Gras should seriously consider making Mardi Gras 2004 a smaller event of say 15,000 - (20,000+ is too big to be enjoyable)

All the DJ's did an excellent job and I especially want to thank Jake Kilby and Alex Taylor who both played great sets in the RHI. I'm honoured to call these guys my close friends. To my other DJ friend Ryan Murphy, I'm sorry I missed your debut dance party set but I heard you kicked ass, well done.

I look forward to Mardi Gras 2004 under the leadership of what I believe to be a very intelligent group of party people running the show out there at Petersham. Congratulations to Mark Orr and his team - You have excelled yourselves and to coin a phrase from "Australian Idol's" Dicko - "You have raised the bar yet again" - Well Done everybody, you all get my official stamp of approval.
Stephen Blomfield - Tue 7 Oct 2003 17:33:23

Also to JK and Ryan Murphy, damn you boys were good! JK I thought you were really cheeky playing Sam Fox but being the retro buff that I am, I loved it. My partner went right off to Rooms On Fire too(he's got a Stevie Nicks fetish!) so thanks for that.

- Tue 7 Oct 2003 11:49:52, yes it was talc on the dancefloor, you must have been dancing near me as some point cause I rarely left the talc area after the guys put it down.
DJ Shanobear - Tue 7 Oct 2003 18:45:17

And that was my only complaint/whinge.

Truly a fantastic party
But please dont stinge on the dance floor :) - Tue 7 Oct 2003 19:18:22

Quote - "NMG has found a "work around" for a sex area.. That is correct they found a soluition at 11am on Friday this week. Does anybody know any more details?"

My question - Was this fact or fiction ? Did anybody find a sex space and if so where ?
- Tue 7 Oct 2003 20:25:45

We arent all spring chickens you know.

Dont ever let the RHI again go without seats. The hordern got seats , why not the RHI ?
sitting on the cement ground is cold - Tue 7 Oct 2003 22:09:04

Must say I was constantly stepping lightly in the hordern anticipating the edge of the (non existent) dance floor. Please don't repeat that.... it's very confusing coming from the RHI with a floor to the Hordern with concrete.

All in all, spectacular shows, lighting, music, and the FRIENDLIEST party crowd I have experienced in a long while. We all went there to have fun, and by gum we did!
Sleazebag - Wed 8 Oct 2003 00:25:45

Pee'd my pants when this came on and loved it !!! Did Jake play this ?

Well done mate !!
Josh - Wed 8 Oct 2003 09:15:59

Incorrect.

Theres always been limited seating on the right hand side of the hall as you walk in. It normally isnt much maybe enought to seat a few hundred but by God it makes a difference.
- Wed 8 Oct 2003 11:20:56

Do you take bribes ????
Josh - Wed 8 Oct 2003 15:19:18

Tosser

The real Lee Jenkins
- Wed 8 Oct 2003 15:39:42

although I haven't checked with Lee, I can almost guarantee that this is not the real Lee posting. Why do people do this?
marcus b - Wed 8 Oct 2003 15:56:58

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Congratulations to New mardi Gras for putting together such an outstanding Sleaze Ball.

After all the crap they endured re the poster what was actually produced on saturday night just goes to show how TOTALLY unimportant the poster actually is.

Its all about what happens on the night and what happened on Saturday night was truly amazing.

Fantastic effort guys. Be proud of what you did, be VERY proud.

Thank You. - Tue 7 Oct 2003 19:15:50
- Wed 8 Oct 2003 16:27:25

I dunno, but it made me laugh
fitinsyd - Wed 8 Oct 2003 16:39:43

I agree totally. Poster, schmoster, the party was truly wonderful, one of the best Sleazes ever. Oh, and I hear Stephen Kidman is designing the Mardi Gras poster ;)
- Wed 8 Oct 2003 16:51:16

C'mon Ryan , Josh , Alex , Jake , all of you....

Lets see who's game enough to post what they played on a public website.
play my playlist - Wed 8 Oct 2003 16:58:07

okay, now that made me laugh. see you soon lovely.
xx
marcus b - Wed 8 Oct 2003 18:42:12

Eat your heart out. Criticise constructively please...
JK - Wed 8 Oct 2003 19:44:20

sweetness and light back at you babes ;-)
Ms Golightly - Wed 8 Oct 2003 20:20:57

You are a real star. That list is quintessentially what the RHI is all about.

Dont EVER change.
SB - Wed 8 Oct 2003 20:57:10

Thanks for your contribution and listing your songs. I felt sorry for you on Saturday night (or was it more like Sunday morning) seeing you start your set just as the daylight was begining to kick in. It was so damn cold and the daylight was nearly upon you in that open area space between the RHI & the Hordern. I walked passed you at about 6.15 gave you a wave. You obviously were suffering with the cold and daylight factors. I'm sure better things lay ahead for you.

What I can see developing here is a new tradtion (and a fine tradition at that) of DJ's publically listing their sets post party for all to see.

I fully encourage ANYBODY who knows all the other DJ's at Sleaze besides Jake & Anthony to contact those DJ's and ask them to come onto this board and list their songs. I'm sure 99% of us have the utmost admiration for the job the DJ's do and I would like to think that all pinkboarders respect the fact that any DJ who lists his or her playlist here not cop any cheap shots over what they did or didnt play.

Lets make it a pinkboard project guys and gals.... If you know any of the other Sleaze DJ's give them a call today and ask them to post their lists.
Jarred - Thu 9 Oct 2003 11:12:45

Dance in The light – 303 Dreams

Halcyon – Chicane

Janeiro – Solid Sessions

I Can Feel – Sholan

White Label – White Label

Love on the Run – Chicane

Nothing But You – Paul Van Dyk

Lay Your Hands on me – Ice House (Close your mouth Jake Kilby)

You set me Free – Abigail

Look at me now – Jessy

Rhythm of the night – Alex C

White Label – White Label

From the past into the future – DJ L.U.K.A

Let me love you – Da Buzz

El Nino – Agnelli & Nelson

Santa Maria – White Label

White Label – White Label

Dust Wav – Perpetuous Dreamer - (Armin Van Buuren)

Suburban Train – DJ Tiesto

All I Need – Air

I’m Alone – Sundecade

Game Master – Lost Language

I can feel your love – Quadraphonic

Near Me – Smudge n Smith

White Label – White Label

7 Cities – Solar Stone

Remixes I hear you ask ? Dj’s Prerogative
Ryan Murphy - Thu 9 Oct 2003 11:30:03

How come you played that track called "White Label" 3 times in the space of 3 hours ? :)
SB - Thu 9 Oct 2003 16:47:54

Thanks for your support mate. It actually wasn't that cold out in the Galleria. NMG had placed 4 of those tall electric heater thingies outside and when the sun did come up and hit that space, it was lovely and warm as there was no breeze. I had a ball playing out there and thanks to the people who came up to me with nice comments about the music.
AW - Thu 9 Oct 2003 17:22:23

Do any of you guys feel disappointed and let down that Mardi Gras dropped the tradition of announcing you at the beginning of your set or back announcing you at the finish of your set ?

I thought it was quite poor form that I couldnt give you guys the appluase you really deserved. Its not as though it costs much to hire a microphone is it ?

Opinions anyone ?
Mike R Fone - Thu 9 Oct 2003 20:05:52

As for Sleaze .....NMG it rocked and will figure as one of my all time favourite parties after last Mardi Gras Well done Guys!
Cuchullain - Thu 9 Oct 2003 20:37:01

Think about it for a second... NMG needs to pay for a lot of Sleaze out of the tickets sales, so if tickets sales are tracking badly in the lead up to the event some hard decisions need to be about what can and can't be included in the sleaze event to ensure that NMG doesn't make a loss on the event. so if you lazy arses could be bothered to buy your tickets well in advance of the event NMG would have a greater certainty as to income and could ensure the party contains all the bells and whistles you demanding boys and girls want.

i have no idea if this is the reason why there was no dancefloor on the hordern... im just thinking the issue through a bit instead of automatically blaming NMG... i may be wrong, but it makes a lot of sense to me...

stop thinking about yourselves so much and think about the bigger picture.
marcus b - Fri 10 Oct 2003 08:35:37

Lee Jenkins

xxx
- Fri 10 Oct 2003 11:25:34

A posting on the New Mardi Gras wall suggests that Sleaze made a $690,000 profit before tax.

With that sort of a windfall it surely opens up the opportunity at Mardi Gras 2004 to have a designated space for classics / retro music to be played all night.

Whilst I enjoyed snippets of the DJ's in the RHI on Saturday night I must admit I barely knew about 10% of the songs played. I'd like to see Mardi Gras have a decent sized hall dedicated to classics and hits of the past for all of the people (and there are thousands of us) who only go "out" to the big dance events and therefore don't know all the current doof doof club music that is currently being played on Oxford Street.

C'mon Mardi Gras, Youve stuck to the same formular for years of RHI Commercial , Hordern Hard and Dome/Stage 11 dirty. Time for a new angle please for us queens that dont fit into any of those 3 categories and tend to roam aimlessly at dance parties not being able to find our niche.
Music in the 21st century is boring - Bring back the 90's - Fri 10 Oct 2003 12:34:08

But I must say - no dance floor in the Horden didn't stop me having a dance and the soreness this caused only added to the rest of the sore bits I noticed over the past day or two (where the hell did these bruises on my legs come from ???)......

Thanks to all the boys in the RHI who made my night heaps and heaps of fun !!
Josh - Fri 10 Oct 2003 12:46:15

Does anyone know when any of the pics from Saturday night will be viewable on line?
Like the new music as well as the old - Fri 10 Oct 2003 13:29:22

Go look at the general meeting link on the mardi gras website and have a look at the financial report attached to the proposed meeting agenda to find out where the $690,000 figure comes from. it's not the profits from sleaze.
Marcus B - Fri 10 Oct 2003 13:43:05

try:
www.grunt.com.au
www.pinkandblue.com.au

and some funny ones i saw last night at:
www.yarwood.com.au/slz2003
OUCH.. my feet hurt too! - Fri 10 Oct 2003 13:53:39

seriously though, "school disco" in the UK has no problem packing them in (average 2,500 a week with a very strict uniform policy) and they don't play any track under 10years old...i think an "old school" space for mardi gras would be a great idea!
Ms Golightly - Fri 10 Oct 2003 14:05:04

Am I on your mind – Oxygen
Feels so good – Sonique
The one - Mariah Carey
Round round – Sugababes
Can’t hold us down – Christina Aguilera
TJ - Fri 10 Oct 2003 14:33:30

I think its a great idea, bring it on.
westy queen - Fri 10 Oct 2003 14:59:07

i hear you're leaving me... :-(
marcus b - Fri 10 Oct 2003 15:49:04

I myself stopped going out every weekend a number of years ago due to the fact that I felt I was getting a bit too old to trash myself every weekend and also cause I found the man of my life who I have settled down with in the suburbs.

On the rare occassions we now go out we know next to none of the music that DJ's play.When I was a regular clubber I knew everything about current dance music. I then found my man and of course ones priorities change.

I still want to support the Mardi Gras and Pride run dance parties cause I know funds raised at these parties is for a good community cause but we havent been to one for a year because of the fact that we feel none of the halls plays music that we would find familiar or have fun with.

I would die and go to heaven if Mardi Gras next year had a pavilion only playing music for "musically uneducated" people like us. There are far more daggy non scene people around this town that want to party that you could ever imagine. Just look at Caesars nightclub which is now no longer. That place played straight out top 40 radio music and it had over a 1,000 people in there every saturday night. Where are those people now ? Nowhere, because they have nowhere to party at that plays that sort of music.
Brian - Fri 10 Oct 2003 17:31:02

This playlist then has to be handed over to I think APRA who then charge Mardi Gras some sort of fee.

Could somebody clarify this issue for me please because if lists are indeed supplied to APRA then those lists become public property and can be obtained due to the freedom of information act and then published on this web site for all to see ? Maybe One of the 3 DJ's that have already published their lists on pinkboard from last weeks Sleaze could tell us if they had to supply NMG thier listing for APRA ?

And to Jake Kilbys posting at JK - Sat 11 Oct 2003 00:30:05

I think your being VERY humble there saying you were "a little disappointed". If I was a DJ and didnt get announced like it happened at Sleaze last week I'd be devastated.
just a boi - Sat 11 Oct 2003 08:36:03

Agree Marcus B - I had so many say they are over the parties/not going to Sleaze blah blah blah but 1 week out they got caught up in the excitement and rushed to buy tickets and guess what ? They are still gushing what a fab time
they had. So much different to Oxford St, so much different to the Clubs and pubs etc. So much a different experience/feel..............well doh ! AND I pointed out that Oxford St/Clubs etc are always there but this "donation" gives you a night out plus gives NMG $'s............. I hope they have now
got the message

AND I hope the community is getting the message.

Paul Diamondo - I know people who enjoyed City Live as is but if we ever get
Dome back then it can go back to its own ways and City Live can go Retro. I cant see Fox Studios being told what they can and cannot use their venues for
so hopefully we'll have Dome back soon.

Now all we have to do is work on Pride NYE . They have started out right by calling for DJ submissions. I HOPE they give the Hordern one more go.
I think Pride should get SSO / SX to run front page stories on what they do ,
really remind everyone where the $'s go. Announce the party early and urge
the community to support and buy tickets early.
X amount of weeks before the party if the community does not support them , they can move the venue to City Live or similiar etc.
Unfortunately this would greatly reduce their income stream but at least they will know the community doesn't give a STUFF.
Please PRIDE just give it one more go - Sat 11 Oct 2003 10:50:03

uh-huh. uh-huh, uh-huh, uh-huh. oh yeah. uh-huh.
Marcus B - Sat 11 Oct 2003 16:55:57

Men's party? Did I go to a men's party? Well, come on Lee put me out of my misery, apparently I did and with you too. - no doubt I was pissed and high too wouldnt you say?

The real...
...Marcus B - Sat 11 Oct 2003 17:27:20

A DJ's playlist is a personal thing. With some of the nasty comments thrown around on this wall, I um'd and aah'd about posting my playlist for a while before I thought "F*ck it" and posted it. It is each individual DJ's right to decide if they want to post theirs or not.

I know many DJ's who won't go near Pinkboard because they have suffered revolting and personal attacks on here before (me included, but I'm learning to not let it get me down). I'm sure there are DJ's from Sleaze included in this number. If they decide never to visit this wall and never to post their playlists, don't blame them. Blame the few people who come in here and cannot play nicely.

Not every DJ is to everyone's taste. Hell, I know I play too commercially for some people. But there is a difference between saying "that DJ doesn't play the style of music I like" and "that DJ is crap". Don't forget that DJ'ing is our job. Nobody likes to have their work criticised so if the minority of people that post attacking remarks on these walls can learn to be a little nicer, more DJ's may start to join in the conversation.

In saying that, it is good to see that the majority of people here are being positive. I believe NMG tried its best to have 3 different styles of music in 3 different halls, with a variety of DJ's, to try and cater for as many different tastes as possible. If people were not happy with the music in one hall, they had two others to choose from.

For future reference, the more ticket sales (and the earlier people buy their tickets) the more money NMG has to spend on the party. More money = more halls = more variety of styles = possible retro space (among others)??? If ticket sales are low early on, NMG usually has to decide by a certain date if it is going to use extra halls or can them to keep the party more intimate. I know party fever usually kicks in in the last week, but if everyone can make an effort to get their tickets earlier this would ensure that NMG can provide us all with extra halls as it knows it will have the numbers to fill them.
JK - Sat 11 Oct 2003 19:27:21

Can whoever posted this please tell me what it means ?
- Sat 11 Oct 2003 22:54:08

If people supported Sleaze and NMG and even Pride and like fickle queens leave it to the last week to buy tickets ,you cannot blame NMG if

- no chill out area
- not enough seats
- no dance floor eg Hordern this Sleaze
- not enough different music styles

There comes a time when decisions have to be made ie what to cut back on and the above list is a good example of what bites the dust.

Will the Community get the message ? I have a gut feeling they won't till these organisations fold and then the screaming will start but it will be
too late.
Just prove me wrong though - Sun 12 Oct 2003 11:56:12

I applaud the DJs brave enough to post their play lists here, even if I didn't applaud you on the night.
Arti - Sun 12 Oct 2003 12:27:32

There is no doubt that this was a great Sleaze for me. But it wasn't without faults. That people wait till the last week to buy tickets is a known phenomenom. Passing blame back to the punters (for buying tickets?!?!sheesh!) will hardly create support for the committee who in the end need to take these comments on board for next time.
Eil Twin - Sun 12 Oct 2003 13:03:32

I was suprised to see you and a few others post your playlists on here. I feel it's something personal to the DJ and it was a bold move by you all to do so.

As for personal attacks on here, I copped a lot of comments when I first started posting on here(under another name) from people who had never heard me play but decided to rip me apart anyway because I played songs not to thier liking. Some just attacked me because of my venue. Let's face it, I will play where I get paid. At the moment it's only the one club but I'm still new to this scene and have only been a DJ since the beginning of the year. I still have a lot to learn but I am improving all the time (according to my regular punters who are there each week).

Too commercial? I don't think so mate, you played what people wanted to hear. I had to laugh when one of the few negative comments about the music at Sleaze came from someone in LA who didn't even attend! I've spoken to a lot of people about your set and everyone who was there loved it, I'm looking forward to seeing you play again soon.

Some queens love to sit back and bitch just for the sake of it, but it is good to see so many positive comments about Sleaze. Even some of the negatives have been put forward in a constructive way.

I'm hoping the community gets behind NMG and the big parties continue for many years to come.
Dj Shanobear - Sun 12 Oct 2003 14:15:36

I must say, I am intrigued to know who you really are, Shanobear! Hopefully I'll see you around and about sometime soon. Come and say hi when you do.
JK - Sun 12 Oct 2003 16:13:38

NMG release tickets for MG early at the same time a voting sheet can be placed in say SSO and those that buy early can vote for the DJ they want in the middle set of each Hall ? You put your ticket number on the voting sheet so that you only get 1 vote. NMG still picks the beginning and ending DJ's ( of
course these can be voted on as well but upto NMG )
or
release tickets early at a cheaper price ? and then say 1 month before they
go up ?
Just trying to be constructive ? - Sun 12 Oct 2003 16:43:57

Sleaze Ball 2003 Play List (The Gallery)
JIMMY DEE - Sun 12 Oct 2003 18:51:37

I certainly hope that you don't think we are friends Jake ;)
Neal Crawford - Sun 12 Oct 2003 21:28:29

e-mail is a powerful medium...for instance, i just sent a little note to Millsy suggesting his performance on australian idol tonight would have been stronger if he selected kids in america (can you imagine those thin pouting lips pushing out "i search for the beat in this dirty town"?!?!? ooh errr!!!)
Ms Golightly - Sun 12 Oct 2003 21:30:03

Whats the point of emailing Mardi Gras your thoughts on a party when we all know they read it on here.

Whats the purpose of doubling up ?
Kim Wilde - Sun 12 Oct 2003 21:58:28

Bless your heart Ms Golightly! NMG is already an avid consumer of Pinkboard's musings. And....aren't we all? :)
- Mon 13 Oct 2003 10:08:48

It's not so much doubling up as providing a more detailed response than a pinkboard post. Plus it provides the opportunity to personally thank those who really did deliver a very good product. And finally, in terms of the decision making process for the next mardi gras party, what sounds more influential "well, 100 people on pinkboard said...." vis-a-vis "we recieved 100 e-mails asking for this to continue...".

For people who enjoyed the party, I just think it is a helpful dynamic in ensuring mardi gras party will be just as successful.

by the way, i think "Cambodia" is politically incorrect, but i have overlooked it given the killer haircut in "love blonde".....yours always and always yours
Ms Golightly - Mon 13 Oct 2003 10:09:23

I think it's always nice to be constructive but the ongoing reality is that people tend not to buy tix early unless there's a powerful incentive to do so - like the prospect of rapid sell-out. We know that Sleaze doesn't sell-out so that particular incentive isn't going to be there. That, in turn, provides a separate disincentive for buying early - you never know who is going to go until the last minute and many people put off buying until they know that people they want to party with are also buying. It's kind of a classic Catch 22. Lots of party organisers have tried the buy early/buy cheaper carrot over the years but it doesn't work without the additional 'stick' of rapid sell-out. And let's face it, if you've got rapid sell-out, you don't need a cheaper, earlier incentive.

NMG is therefore kind of obliged to work to a last minute upsurge in sales for both parties and has to budget/plan accordingly. The venue operator has proven to be amenable to a flexible venue add-on option/s, dependent on sales, and I think that's the prudent way to go. It actually makes for a more adaptable/flexible/finely-tuned approach to party management which is probably no bad thing in terms of honing NMG's act.

I doubt that flooring in the Hordern or the amount of seating are actually all that numbers-dependent - they certainly shouldn't be. I would have thought that it's a basic matter of OH&S observance to ensure that there's a wooden dancefloor in space in any pavilion hired for an all night dance party - likewise enough seating to give people an opportunity for chilling out.
- Mon 13 Oct 2003 12:23:14

In the arguement over ticket prices to help sell tickets earlier, I am of the understanding that it is a difficult position for NMG. Yes, having cheaper prices earlier would encourage early sales, but bumping the price up closer to the event may then dissuade some people from buying tickets at the last minute. It's a tricky one.

Ms Golightly, I get the impression you are a fan of the early works of Ms Wilde. I am as well, but what are your opinions of the 80's Kim? In particular, my fave, "You Came" with "Never Trust a Stranger" coming in at a close 2nd. Are you going to the Here and Now 80's concert? Do you think Millsy will make it through tonight?
JK - Mon 13 Oct 2003 14:32:12

(in no particular order)
neal crawford - Mon 13 Oct 2003 14:55:08

I have more important things in my life to deal with.

Like who will be eliminiated from Australian Idol tonite.

It just better not be Guy.
- Mon 13 Oct 2003 15:07:05

I must admit "You Came" is very good (probably 3rd fave song) - i actually use it as a potential boyfriend filter. If i play it for them and they laugh - well they're walking. If they look all whimsical and teary eyed, then...*catholic boy blush*....

Kids in America is firmly my favourite single, but it's probably more of an emotional attachment...i was in year 5 at school and my best 2 friends (chris and michael) and I formed a "tough club" where we use to smoke marlbro reds(didn't master the draw back to year 7 though), swear, steal bad straight porn, and generally act tough. For some reason "kids" was our theme song...not sure why, just everybody in the video seemed so moody and edgy.... even back then i had a visceral understanding of noir.

Yes to the here and now concert (but i will be taking my discman to listen to something else whilst mondo rock, 1927 and paul young are on) and yes to robbie williams as well (but only to see Duran Duran open)

And finally, Australian Idol...on performance alone, I don't think Millsy should get through, but I have been too busy posting on pinkboard today to send the 54,396 SMS's supporting the other contestants that would probably be required to offset the suburban teenage girls sending their parents mobile phone bill into the stratosphere voting for Millsy.

Cossima (sp?) will probably go...is it just me, or does she really look like Cherie Blair? Paulini to win!
Ms Golightly - Mon 13 Oct 2003 16:19:31

....ummmmmm, this IS actually the SLEAZE wall - what else are we gonna talk about here?
Cruze the other walls luvs - Mon 13 Oct 2003 16:33:53

It's the point where the cost of hiring the venue and mounting the party is matched by the income from tickets. And believe me: you can't make a profit from a dance party crowd of less than 7,500-8,000 in the RHI/Hordern.
- Mon 13 Oct 2003 16:54:48

I hope Cosima doesn't go tonight. I am equally impressed with her and Paulini and hope to have it down to them in the final (although, which way I will vote if it comes to that, I have no idea). I'm not sure if Millsy's teenage fan club will get him through. He may last tonight, but I think he will go in the end. Shannon, Levi and Millsy are the least talented of the remainders (in my opinion). I'm not much for Guy, but he craps all over the other guys in the vocal department.

Inspector Klooso - I am not Rhiannon. I am me. If there is a similarity between my writing style and that of Rhiannon, I would like to meet her(or him?). However, rest assured, I am JK and JK alone.
JK - Mon 13 Oct 2003 18:03:34

granted they do have key correcting devices for pop stars but really, a look is not enough, and rob mills has run out of pouts and dance moves in my book

and jk, re the opposite ends djs and friendship thing, i think it is much easier to have friends at opposite ends, gig-rivalry seems to be a big problem with a lot of djs in sydney (both scenes) at the moment, and the more likely you are to agree with someone says relating to music, the more people seem disinterested, threatened or whatever.

someone commented to me recently about arq, and how people freak out when you say hello (interupting their drug induced flights of fancy) if you don't know them. can i ask every pinkboard person to say hello to someone they know, just for me, think of it as likenable to donating grains of rice to impoverished children, but more in the literal sense of re-introducing open-ness, friendship and happy party environments into syd's gay clubs. ps making a fool of yourself is fine... cool is all defined in how you pull it off:)
any suggestiong for a tag name - yours are all so imaginative - Mon 13 Oct 2003 18:16:51

I disagree with this comment, sorry! I have DJ friends who play completely different to me and I think that its great that people with diverse backgrounds, tastes and scenes can be friends, however, I am very close with all the DJ's who are from the same genre as myself. I think there is a lot of misconception in relation to this whole "DJ rivalry" thing. I don't feel competetive with any of my fellow DJ's. We all get picked for parties sometimes and othertimes we get overlooked. We all have residencies that enjoy a full dancefloor and then we all have residencies that that aren't so enjoyable. There isn't a huge amount of work out there, but I think most DJ's are doing ok at the moment. Of course, I can't speak on behalf of all my peers, but I could name a few DJ's who would probably be put into the same sort of category as me who are my closest friends.

I dunno JK, you both have very similar tastes in music
- Mon 13 Oct 2003 19:17:34

If this is true, Rhiannon, you have excellent taste in music.

JK as in Just Kidding it's me Rhiannon
NC - Mon 13 Oct 2003 18:59:32

Please explain?

$750000 is a lot of costs - it wasn't visible on the night. One dancefloor was mising, minimal pa in the Hordern and not much spent on lights anywhwere. Where did it all go precisely? How much goes to Mark Fordham's company? How much is he paid?
the collective - Mon 13 Oct 2003 18:31:33

I didn't get to spend much time in the other halls, but, did you go into the RHI?!?! I don't think you can have if you can say not much was spent on lights anywhere. I thought the lighting and visuals was amazing in the RHI. In fact, my night wouldn't have been half as fun if it hadn't been for the amazing job done by Brad Wright and his cohort. It was plain to me where the money for the RHI was spent.
- Tue 14 Oct 2003 08:33:04

7500 * $90 = $675000
This includes GST, so the Government gets 10% of this, though that is offset by claiming GST on the costs.
Ticketek would then take it's cut for issuing the tickets, erecting and staffing the barriers, etc.
Then there is the venue, I would guess at least $150,000, possibly much higher.
Insurance is probably another $100,000.
Lights and sound probably a similar amount each.
That's $450,000 so far, not including Ticketek.
Then all the staging, dancefloor, seating, fencing, etc.
Security.
Entertainment and their costumes would take a slice.
Marketing costs money.
I'm sure there are lots of other little things which quickly add up.
Arti - Tue 14 Oct 2003 08:33:18

Then again you could move up from JK to the marvellous MK, she was such a diva
100% devotion - Tue 14 Oct 2003 09:25:16

We lost the old Mardi Gras because they threw money away on insane wages for the CEO, $130,000 was it?

How much did Mark Fordham pay himself? How did his event company get the contract? How come he put all the work out to his straight mates?

Members meeting 1 November. Join up and ask where $750,000 went. Every $10,000 counts.

To lose one mardi gras may be regarded as a misfortune...to lose both seems like carelessness.
the collective - Tue 14 Oct 2003 10:43:59
Pinkboard can confirm that some of the information in this message is inaccurate.

blinded by the laser light...it well could of been me - I actually had a 4 band pearl choker on and was wearing dior night shades...i do remember 2 boys walking past during Neal Crawford's set and going "ooh...that must be Ms Golightly!"
Ms Golightly - Tue 14 Oct 2003 10:53:56

To lose one mardi gras may be regarded as a misfortune...to lose both seems like carelessness.
the collective - Tue 14 Oct 2003 10:43:59

*ahem* Nov 1 is the NMG AGM - it is unlikely you will be able to join and therefore vote at this late moment.
"the collective " appears to have little clue about how NMG and other large community organisations work, I suggest a little reading of the MardiGras pinkboard woudl help answer the collective 's questioning.
How about the collective takes their questions to the MArdiGras pinkboard or even the NewMardiGras website
bored community member - Tue 14 Oct 2003 14:17:23

To the previous poster commenting on costs - there's a reason why our community orgs are getting squeezed on party revenue. It's because they are bloody expensive to put on!! In case you hadn't noticed, love, there is a little bit more to putting on a party than a few coloured spot lights and an Akai tape deck!!! The halls are empty shells. Do you think all that rigging for lights, lasers, etc just magically appears? EVERYTHING you see has to be hired and installed in the days before the party and then removed after the party. All that costs money!
- Tue 14 Oct 2003 15:00:44

Mate, the process of appointing the PM was an open and advertised tender. Whilst there may be concerns as to how suppliers were chosen, not tendered, from that point onwards, to personally attack Mark Fordham is just not on. He was appointed by the New Mardi Gras Board, either directly or through their Working Group.
Be fair and reasonable - Tue 14 Oct 2003 15:53:04

Dear Mardi Gras Party Committee,

I believe Mark Orr should be the recipient of this email. Please pass it on
to him ASAP thank you.

Dear Mark,

I wanted to thank you and all of your sub committees in the recent putting
together of what I heard was an excellent Sleaze Ball. I'm now regretting
not making the decision to go as alot of my friends had excellent things to
say about the night in question.

My sole reason for not going is that I and my boyfriend dont think we "fit
in" anymore to these sorts of events. I'd refer you to a posting I made on
www.pinkboard.com.au recently where I described the fact that I didnt go was
because I feel Sleaze and Mardi Gras tends in the main to only to cater to
people who are regular scene people. Here is my pinkboard comment -

"The moment one stops becoming a regular scene clubbing person you very
quickly loose touch with what is considered current popular dance music.

I myself stopped going out every weekend a number of years ago due to the
fact that I felt I was getting a bit too old to trash myself every weekend
and also cause I found the man of my life who I have settled down with in
the suburbs.

On the rare occassions we now go out we know next to none of the music that
DJ's play.When I was a regular clubber I knew everything about current dance
music. I then found my man and of course ones priorities change.

I still want to support the Mardi Gras and Pride run dance parties cause I
know funds raised at these parties is for a good community cause but we
havent been to one for a year because of the fact that we feel none of the
halls plays music that we would find familiar or have fun with.

I would die and go to heaven if Mardi Gras next year had a pavilion only
playing music for "musically uneducated" people like us. There are far more
daggy non scene people around this town that want to party that you could
ever imagine. Just look at Caesars nightclub which is now no longer. That
place played straight out top 40 radio music and it had over a 1,000 people
in there every saturday night. Where are those people now ? Nowhere, because
they have nowhere to party at that plays that sort of music.
Brian - Fri 10 Oct 2003 17:31:02"

I have followed with great interest a number of other pinkboard posters who
also support the idea of a space that plays music for the oldies and the
daggs of this community (yes I am an oldie AND a dag, I get the double bunger award) -

Please give it some serious thought as in my humble opinion the idea has great merit. Please also give thought to putting this concept in a pavilion space (please dont put it in an "outside" area like Pride do at New Years).

Its time Mardi Gras looked towards a new concept instead of the old tradition RHI Commercial , Hordern Hard , Dome Dirty themes. A new hall with a new angle would be a great selling point for future events.

Anyway, Thats my opinion.

Keep up the great work - I and my partner hope to attend Mardi Gras 2004 on
the assumption that we might be catered to next year in the form of a
pavilion playing music from the 90's and even the 80's (God forbid even the
70's) !

Warmest Regards
Brian Jones
Way out at Liverpool.
Brian - Tue 14 Oct 2003 21:04:20

The more feedback they get the better. Any of you other guys or gals who like the retro hall idea for MG2004 should definitely write in. Lets make it our personal campaign :)
Brian in way out Liverpool - Old , and a dag (and proud of it) - Tue 14 Oct 2003 21:07:14

Im breaking away to go back to Heaven.
Kim W - Wed 15 Oct 2003 10:10:17

1) How many tickets were sold?
2) How much did the party cost to put on - insurance, pa hire, lights, floor, venue hire etc.?
3) How much did the party make?
4) How much did Mark Fordham’s event company charge New Mardi Gras to put on the party?
5) How much did Mark Fordham pay himself?
6) How much was left over for New Mardi Gras?

Rough estimates where vast amounts of money are rounded down to the nearest $10,000 is the pathway to ruin, again.

If it is true that NMG only gets $13 out of every $100 I would say they are being ripped off, and so are all the Mardi Gras volunteers whose labour profited a private company.

To lose one mardi gras may be regarded as a misfortune...to lose both seems like carelessness
the collective - Wed 15 Oct 2003 10:56:19

Sleaze Ball was a financial and a production success. Does that bother you?

It is mischievous to speculate without the facts - it is also down right irresponsible to undermine a struggling community organisation based on assumptions and innuendo.

NMG are accountable to the membership and will report according to the constitution and normal corporate law. A look at the current financial document posted on their website gives me a lot of confidence in their ability to thrive and survive (which I assume the majority of people in our community want).

What makes you believe that we are to lose another Mardi Gras? Is their success too much for you to see!

Your repeated remarks about this Mark Fordham seems to indicate you have personal gripe. I recall seeing Party Production tenders openly advertised early this year for Sleaze and MG 2004. I (as a member) would expect that the process was managed honestly and transparently. If you are a member why not just ask NMG directly.

As for how much any supplier or contractor or staff member is paid, this information could be commercially sensitive and is more than likely contractualy agreed for non-disclosure (a stock standard commerciail practice that most companies do to protect their commercial intelligence - and I would hope that NMG would act responsibly and do the same).

Subverting the confidence of the many volunteers that NMG rely on to deliver these events would seem to be quite irresponsible as well.

I had a great time, I danced, I felt great to see NMG do what everyone said they would not - succeed. Well done. Bring on 2004 Party. Congratulations to the Board and Volunteers, and talented professionals that made Sleaze 2003 a massive success.
the majority - Wed 15 Oct 2003 16:39:18

May I quietly suggest you direct your enquiries to the people who could answer them correctly, or are you simply too gutless to approach NMG, Mr Fordam, or your own personal issues face on. Otherwise babe, sit back and wait for the annual report where I'm sure it'll all be in black and white for your perusal and sceptisism. Lighten up kid, your arguements are trite.
Craig Ingrey - Wed 15 Oct 2003 17:31:45

The information you are requesting can only be supplied by New Mardi Gras itself. I suggest you ask them directly. Your messages on Pinkboard read as if you are being malicious. They will no longer be permitted.
Panther - Wed 15 Oct 2003 18:55:06

Collective , nearly all these questions are answered in the annual report which is published under due laws when NMG have to and not 1 week after a
Party !

These are the types of posts that gives Pinkboard a bad reputation ie 1 or
2 posts and everyone smears poor old Pinkboard when the majority are here for
some chit chat/gossip and general fun.

Go the the annual general meeting, identify yourself and ask you questions.
Please be nice - Wed 15 Oct 2003 19:05:35

This technology was used at Sleaze for the first time in Australia and rumour has it the DL-1 lights were still in customs on the Tuesday before the party
- Wed 15 Oct 2003 21:57:23

panther@pinkboard.com.au