Sleaze 200 Degrees

Pinkboard Sleaze Ball 2000 Graffiti Wall 2 - Hotter

The countdown is just past 69. The weather is warming. The city is buzzing. (See this wall to find out why.) The flame will be lit very soon.

Sydney Gay and Lesbian Mardi Gras
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me again, I think I spend too much time on these walls
BND - Sat Sep 9 13:07:21 2000
now lets see how long we can all be civil towards eachother on this wall!!!
Shaerin - Sat Sep 9 16:04:23 2000
civil to each other...yeah riiiite *bugger Off * hehehe :P
Sat Sep 9 16:43:15 2000
BND: You need to get outside more often. Look at you, sitting at your PC at 1pm on a beautiful spring Saturday, surfing the walls of Pinkboard. Woops, have I already ended civility?
TW - Sat Sep 9 18:24:45 2000
Assuming we are all in the same timezone of course.
It's not called the **World*** wide web for nothing you know ;) - Sat Sep 9 20:15:00 2000
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Mon Sep 11 16:44:58 2000
Christ I am so over countdowns. Hated it for the fake millenium. Hated it for the olympics. and as for counting down to a slease party...... pu-lease
Mon Sep 11 17:02:21 2000
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Mon Sep 11 17:31:02 2000
In an effort to turn Sleaze back into the big party it once was, not just OS DJs but a few lives acts as well. Tina Cousins is back with more to come ... Madison Ave?
The Phantom Insider - Mon Sep 11 17:35:21 2000
Tina C?
Mon Sep 11 21:19:49 2000
Madison Avenue? Anyone who has had the misfortune to hear them live will never again wish that experience on anyone save their worst enemies. Nice enough tunes, nice clips, nice hair-dos, but he can't write and she cant sing and, live, that all becomes astonishingly, awfully clear...
Tue Sep 12 0:55:44 2000
This is the opinion of the poster.
oooooo just like Dannii
Tue Sep 12 1:47:34 2000
Exactly like Dannii. Nice Barbie, no Dream-house.
Tue Sep 12 2:13:19 2000
60 days to go (thats 2 months for the dummies)60 days to go (thats 2 months for the dummies)60 days to go (thats 2 months for the dummies)60 days to go (thats 2 months for the dummies)
Tue Sep 12 13:37:31 2000
And speaking of dummies ...
EC - Tue Sep 12 13:54:54 2000
did i just hear the words EC and dummies mentioned in the same breath ?
A>D - Tue Sep 12 14:29:08 2000
Christ can someone please remove that stupid spam from the wall!!!! He's coming in here more and more often. Next we'll be having an hour by hour countdown. (By the way this wall has died since we got the new one - maybe we can't remember what we were bitching about before - sure as hell wasn't that stupid rocket launcher wanna-be)
Tue Sep 12 15:02:21 2000
You're so witty A>D>.
Tue Sep 12 16:07:48 2000
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you asked for an hourly countdown....you got it !! - Tue Sep 12 18:50:17 2000
We didn't ask for it. Just predicated your stupidity.
Tue Sep 12 19:09:45 2000
Hey, leave EC alone.
TW - Tue Sep 12 20:38:00 2000
EC is alone.Very Very alone indeed. :)
A>D - Wed Sep 13 11:52:44 2000
Hm, when did you and I become bitter enemies A>D? I must have missed that bit. Oh well, I don't feel so alone now ...
EC - Wed Sep 13 15:01:08 2000
I'm only messin' with ya head EC.We do love you in all your glory.
A>D - Wed Sep 13 17:20:19 2000
Barbara Tucker ... ?
TPI - Wed Sep 13 17:36:52 2000
stop playing with my mind
Thu Sep 14 13:05:07 2000
Well now that that amazing opening ceremony is over and done with what else can one say but ------ 56 days to go 56 days to go 56 days to go 56 days to go 56 days to go 56 days to go 56 days to go 56 days to go 56 days to go 56 days to go 56 days to go 56 days to go 56 days to go 56 days to go 56 days to go 56 days to go 56 days to go 56 days to go 56 days to go 56 days to go 56 days to go 56 days to go 56 days to go 56 days to go 56 days to go 56 days to go 56 days to go 56 days to go !!!
Sat Sep 16 2:26:35 2000
Amazing? They couldn't get it up! How Australian that we stuffed up the climax.
Sat Sep 16 13:54:46 2000
but you must admit (even in your cynical state) the whole shebang was pretty good, especially considering the thousands and thousands of people involved. some of the segments went a bit too long and it took the hydraulic lift a while to lift the flame, but it eventually worked and was an emotional experience. i feel sorry for those who hated it...
Shaerin Magoodies - Sat Sep 16 15:54:46 2000
I can tell you one bit that was too long... the parade of athletes. when it first started I went out for dinner. Got back and they were still only up to the E's!
Sat Sep 16 16:47:40 2000
Amazing? They couldn't get it up! How Australian that we stuffed up the climax. Sat Sep 16 13:54:46 2000 ---- How truly un-australian are you.Go back to where you came from you ******* ******* ****** (abusive racist comment withheld)
Sat Sep 16 17:03:04 2000
yes. un-australian. the abusive comment that follows anyone who says anything negative against australia (of course not if we say anything against australia ourselves in the MG parade ie. pm sucks, government is capitalist, most pple are racist, sexist, homophobic etc). And most of all we've got to say it when someone is making a joke that we don't get!!
Actually I was born in Paddington (on Oxford st too!) - Sat Sep 16 20:18:25 2000
Back to Sleaze - any word on the shows? How can they cap last year's ones? Hard to imagine.
PaulDiamondo - Sun Sep 17 14:38:03 2000
Just typical of the people on this board. Trashing the greatest show on earth, heralded by all the international press. Thankfully the cauldron did go up, at an appropriate time with the music, Cathy let nothing show that anything was wrong, Australia held its breath, the rest of the world thought it was climactic. Well done Sydney! To whover trashes our finest moment, all I can say is, "What ever happened to you as a child?" You should have been drowned in a bucket at birth.
Mara Devlin - Sun Sep 17 21:17:52 2000
"our finest moment"???? I think we can do alot better than just a song and dance routine.
Sun Sep 17 22:35:33 2000
How right you are. A mime and dance routine would have been much finer I'm sure. Now, back to Sleaze ....
Mon Sep 18 13:50:20 2000
Spam deleted.
Please don't cross post to different walls. ...that said.....

In reply: but some people have to work harder than others to get the same things.
Captain, I believe are caught in a temporal loop in the time/space continium - Tue Sep 19 11:40:56 2000

53 days to go
Tue Sep 19 17:07:43 2000
this is the ****** sleaze wall. why are we talking olympics crap on here.
Wed Sep 20 19:02:05 2000
Because there is a bigger party happening between now and sleaze
Wed Sep 20 19:35:53 2000
Anastacia?
TPI - Wed Sep 20 20:15:30 2000
no
Wed Sep 20 21:26:03 2000
I'm interested to know if there will be a men only sace, and if this will likely be the backroom space this time around. I missed the one at Mardi Gras, because the first time they had one, there was no action in there.
Mort from NQ - Wed Sep 20 21:33:49 2000
NO mens space....No sex space....Mardi Gras doing it on the cheap yet again !!!
thoughtless - Wed Sep 20 22:28:35 2000
Sex is a space you create best yourslf...expecting that space to be created for you is not only naive, it's lazy...Don't be so literal, look for sex in other-than-the-designated-spot. But, if you want to be guaranteed to have sex on November eleventh, save $60 and go to a steam room. Expecting to have sex at a dance party is like expecting to have a dance at the Den.
thoughtful - Thu Sep 21 1:31:06 2000
exactly!!
Thu Sep 21 15:05:51 2000
Exactly again! Be sexy at Sleaze and have a sexy time but I dont understand people that go there looking for sex. There's better places and times for that!
Thu Sep 21 15:23:50 2000
Thanks for the feedback guys. I guess it's difficult to understand what it's like to come to Sydney for such a short time and to hope to experience every element of the party. I appreciate your wishes to enjoy Sleaze the way you want to. I hope I have the opportunity to do the same.
Mort from the North - Thu Sep 21 17:20:32 2000
God - some people are so pompous! Having sex at parties is fun! It's not the be-all-and-end-all - just fun. I for one will be very sorry indeed if there isn't a mens' tent at Sleaze. It worked brilliantly at MG - hot guys, all off their faces, having a steaming time with music pounding in the background. Why not?
PaulDiamondo - Thu Sep 21 19:13:12 2000
i gotta agree with the previous post.Some people get their attitude tied up and force their morals on others.Of course its fun to go on a sex hunt at dance parties.Isnt having fun what dance parties are all about ? And last time I checked having sex is fun.Its all part of the experience on the night.Except for all you guys and girls that have BF/GF's and try and tell us single people that what we do is very nawwty and try and slap us on the wrist.Oh Pleeeasee, dont force your morals on me.
Thu Sep 21 19:40:50 2000
I always thought sleaze was called precisely that for only one reason.
Thu Sep 21 20:57:03 2000
it is not about forcing our morals on you, it is about not bagging m.g. if there is no mens space - if you are so in need of somewhere to have sex at a party (as i more often than not am)then do it anywhere you want, no one will really care and if you are lucky they might join in!
Thu Sep 21 22:27:58 2000
Personally I would prefer to do it with only gay males present. Call me old-fashioned but ...
PaulDiamondo - Fri Sep 22 8:18:48 2000
Shows i want to know about shows!!!!!!!!!!!!! Who, What when and where!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!! Start guessing and give up some goss!!!!!!!!!
Fri Sep 22 12:59:52 2000
Oh sure. only gay males present. what about your straight boy fantasies ...
Fri Sep 22 13:19:47 2000
In recent years at sleaze I've seen people having sex on the dancefloor in both the Dome,and in the RHI. And in the stands in the Hordern.Whether or not there is a designated 'zone' doesn't seem to stop the true sleazoids among us from looking for, finding, having and enjoying sex, both during the Party, and afterwards. If you're only able to rise to the occaision in the company of gay male strangers, the afterwards option might be your best bet for this party because M&F only spaces aren't looking likely. No one is saying sex at the party isn't fun, but it shouldn't be an expectation, and it always requires a degree of bravery.
~!@#$%^ - Fri Sep 22 15:12:37 2000
Can I ask why there might not be even a basic closed off single-sex area like there is at virtually every sleaze/mg/etc party I have ever been too? It would only $20 to construct surely. Far from ideal but....
PaulDiamondo - Fri Sep 22 19:19:16 2000
because it does actually cost a lot of money to erect, secure and soundproof these areas, thats why...
Fri Sep 22 20:09:49 2000
of course it cost alot of money to........especially when MG do everything on the cheap !
Sat Sep 23 2:18:27 2000
A simple wooden frame, black plastic sheeting, a volunteer standing outside the door .... expensive???
PaulDiamondo - Sat Sep 23 11:58:39 2000
OH NO - MG dont want to be seen to be "encouraging" sex at dance parties - that wouldnt be very sleazy all would it ?
a laughable situation - Sat Sep 23 12:50:09 2000
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Sat Sep 23 13:02:27 2000
Anyone have any news on the shows?
PaulDiamondo - Sat Sep 23 15:14:09 2000
A simple wooden frame, black plastic sheeting, a volunteer standing outside the door .... expensive??? ----yeah,and i could bring along my walkman for the music,gawd it would have to be better than most of the dj's they picked.---actually thats not a bad thought,I wonder if I **COuLD** get in with my walkman and my own music ???
A>D - Sat Sep 23 15:25:27 2000
A>D, it is simple - do not go, we do not want losers like you there to spoil the party, why don't you just stay in your living room and dance along to rage, it sounds as though that is all you are capable of doing anyway. the words bitter and twisted apply to you!
Sat Sep 23 19:40:07 2000
PaulDiamondo, believe me, it is not that simple/cheap to erect structures, plus the soundproofing is a major cost. those pesky people in cook road and lang road do not like us having our parties.
Janet Weiss - Sat Sep 23 19:51:54 2000
Sat Sep 23 19:40:07 2000 - oh for gawd sakes you idiot,go buy a dictionary and look up the words "joke" or "sarcastic"
A>D - Sat Sep 23 22:33:35 2000
Actually A>D the problem is that your attempts at irony don't work. It comes across as nasty.
Sun Sep 24 0:06:07 2000
ive come to realise that most people who post on this wall have NO sense of humour whatsoever
A>D - Sun Sep 24 0:31:23 2000
A>D - i think you'll find that people are always quick off the mark to jump down one anothers throats instead of giving people the benefit of the doubt...it happens on all these boards (and IRL of course). You probably need to treat everyone as if they're in that category and whack a smiley on the end of your quips, just in case...

you sydney people (in general) tend to take all you have for granted...it's really quite amusing. whinging about sex spaces and music and whatever else that may not be your 'ideal' party environment. well guess what. the majority of the gay population in australia don't even have the fricken party at all. they have to travel sometimes thousands of kms just to take part in these events. how disappointing to be so open to a new environment and experiencing something that should be a celebration of their sexuality only to turn around and hear some bitter poof or dyke knocking everything in sight. grow up...if you have suggestions, then make them, but don't constantly criticise (the party and each other), it's lazy and most unbecoming.
jones - Sun Sep 24 11:26:54 2000

Actually I come from Melbourne. And I wasn't whinging I hope - just making the point that not everyone here hates sex spaces. Simple really.
PaulD - Sun Sep 24 11:31:25 2000
PaulD - hey...i'd be kinda chuffed if they had sex spaces too, but i'm just talking about ppl who's comments are far from constructive or even suggestive, but just plain criticisms. that's all :)
jones - Sun Sep 24 11:39:10 2000
Thats Pinkboard for you.Welcome to the land of Pinkboard guys.
Sun Sep 24 13:30:30 2000
it's not always like that (been posting on pinkboard for about 12 months....i think), but it comes in waves (doesn't everything *g*)...and we're having one now...i guess it's just disappointing with there being so much to be chipper about at the moment with the olympics atmosphere, summer and sleaze coming up, then mardi gras not far after...*sigh*...i guess i'm just an optomistic little thing sometimes *shrugs*
jones - i can't believe i just used 'chipper' in a sentence...somebody slap me !!! - Sun Sep 24 13:35:51 2000
Slap!
PaulD - Sun Sep 24 15:01:54 2000
Paul, first off no one said they 'hate sex spaces'. And you're right about the popularity of the 'male space', but they've only been a regular feature since Sleaze '98, which was a corner of the Hordern. Since then there have been 3 tents, each one bigger than the tent before. It wouldn't be possible to have a big tent at this party because of the limited amount of open space available, without going over the road into Fox, or the park, which is what constitutes the big expense. Doing the construction you describe would work for a tiny structure, but because of fire safety and wind it would be illegal anyway. Doing small tents would only mean most people that wanted to wouldn't be able to get in without queuing. The same sex spaces will return by the next party by which stage site configuration & access into other Fox venues will make good sized, sound proofed venues available.
~!@#$%^ - Sun Sep 24 15:49:13 2000
I so love having the entire G&L party calender dictated to us by Rupert Murdoch.F*CK IT SUX.
Mon Sep 25 2:09:51 2000
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Mon Sep 25 16:10:44 2000
25/9 2:09 Actually Fox are a gigantic improvement on the Royal Agricultural Society which controlled the showgrounds before. They were openly homophobic, did nothing to improve or even maintain the venues, and yet constantly raised the prices. Fox as an international media organisation are definitely ruthless, but as landlords they've been good so far, and the improvements are almost complete.
~!@#$%^ - Mon Sep 25 17:36:39 2000
but the improvements by fox are boring and clinical and have taken the fun out of the old showgrounds (eg down stairs tolilet of the hordern).
go suck on a fox - Mon Sep 25 18:20:29 2000
Well thank you ~!@#$%^ for your courteous, detailed and factual response. A rare event on Pinkboard. Actually, are people generally becoming more polite do you think?
PaulDiamondo - Mon Sep 25 19:22:20 2000
Hey, 'go suck on a fox' - I think you're right that a lot of the subversive fun has been sanitised by the renovations. But, anyone who lived through the explosion of the sewerage system under the Dome, approx. 25 minutes after the mg crowd vacated, probably welcomes that sanitation over the 'fun' of filthy mens toilets.Add to that collapsing roof structures, asbestosis, fire hazards, concrete cancer, and a reactionary right-wing landlord, and those cruisey dunnies start looking a little less essential. I do agree that the showground has become more boringly clinical, but, in preference to potentially fatal, I can live with it. Paul D - I blame the current rash of politeness on the olympics, I've never seen my otherwise surly Sydney-citysiders behave with such bonhomie. It's strangely contagious.
~!@#$%^ - Mon Sep 25 23:21:48 2000
~!@#$%^ - Mon Sep 25 23:21:48 2000 - all the more reason why MG need to put in a tent to encourage the as you call it "the subversive fun " aspects of MG parties.We lost this aspect after the renovations and started to get it back again at MG2000 only to have the rug seemingly pulled from under us by what is shaping up to being a Sleaze Ball "on the cheap"
Fox Sux - Mon Sep 25 23:36:27 2000
I though sleaze was always done on the cheap. seems to be the way mg has been running everything lately.
Mon Sep 25 23:54:54 2000
You seem to not have understood the practical, factual reasons behind the impossibility of 2 large 'subversively fun' tents at this years Sleaze. I'll reiterate: Sleaze is a much smaller party (14k vs 25k). Given the smaller 'footprint' of available open space without crossing the roads, large tents aren't currently possible. Contrary to your posting, renovations are not yet complete, but when they are much better venues than unsoundproofed circus tents will be available for same-sex spaces. This years Sleaze will be the most expensive ever, so if that is "on the cheap" in your prefered worldview, so be it.
~!@#$%^ - Tue Sep 26 0:06:15 2000
One year they tried 'closed off' spaces at the back of the Hordern. Is that a possibility again this year?
Keen to try any space available - Tue Sep 26 0:13:31 2000
no.
Tue Sep 26 0:25:09 2000
if you guys think youre unhappy about no same-sex spaces at sleaze imagine the grouchy lesbians who are outnumbered 9:1 at every g&l party. For the first time since I can remember there won't be a dyke bar. Strangely enough lezzos seem to accept the current realities of an emerging site a lot less illogically than their gay brethren....
bitchless - Tue Sep 26 0:35:02 2000
Honestly,some of you guys need to lighten up and get with Fatso the fat assed wombat LOL
Tue Sep 26 1:12:53 2000
~!@#$%^ - Tue Sep 26 0:06:15 2000 .If we must put up with the boring clinical look of fox studios and lose the real feel of MG/Sleaze parties from the good old days pre fox,then whats the point of sticking with fox studios at all ? Lets just throw "tradition" out of the window why dont we.If we want to have a party in a clinical clean beautiful enviroment then we could choose another dozen or so places.Darling Harbour comes to mind.As does Homebush. (please note this whole posting is sarsastic).
Fox Sux - Tue Sep 26 13:20:18 2000
oops - i need a spell check on the word sarcastic
Tue Sep 26 13:21:29 2000
With international DJs and international acts this hardly looks like Sleaze on the cheap.
Tue Sep 26 14:19:56 2000
Sarcasm aside, Homebush is the new precinct of the homophobic Royal Agricultural Society, as well as being, well...Homebush. Darling Harbour Authority has consistently ruled out large all night dance parties, primarily because it has to be ready first thing in the morning for the tourists, and look-what-the cat-dragged-in departing partygoers, in all our sweaty, smeared glory is not the look they want to start the day with. Fox are nowhere near as prissy about our tendency toward dishevelled excess. And really, if the worst thing you can say about Fox is that it's renovations are a bit pristine- don't worry, they'll soon be showing their age as clearly as the rest of us...
~!@#$%^ - Tue Sep 26 15:03:58 2000
International acts? What acts? Do tell - please (continuing hitherto heard of courtesy and thoughtfulness to others)!
PaulD - Tue Sep 26 19:24:28 2000
are all sydney / aussie gay guys just like crying girls, you have balls so use them.
zac - Tue Sep 26 19:43:40 2000
Now why spoil the surprises PaulD? ;-)
EC - Tue Sep 26 20:31:38 2000
The whole problem with Sleaze Ball being downsized and done on the cheap as was so well put earlier,is the fault of 2 things. (1) The obvious problems surrounding the quote "clinical" renovations at fox. However,the "real" reason for the downsizing of sleaze is solely due to the falling attendences since it peaked in 1997.The question as to why attendences at sleaze have fallen in 1998 & 1999 can be answered easily.The sole reason for attendences falling is the public saying to SGLMG that we as the G&L community are Not happy with how you are conducting yourselves in the way in which you are presenting the party to us.Its the G&L public talking with their feet and not attending.Surely this is saying something to SGLMG isnt it ? I mean shit,what would I know,I'm only a member of G&L community !
Talking Feet - Tue Sep 26 21:09:19 2000
But EC - we *love* to speculate. And Talking Feet, your message has no point. What exactly is it that would put things right/
PaulD - Tue Sep 26 23:06:25 2000
Paul D - Do you read english ? My point (which is quite clear) is that MG is solely responsible for dragging sleaze ball down with falling attendences.People are obviously not happy with the way MG has been producing this party (if they were happy numbers would not have fallen so dramatically since 1997).I offer no solutions but am simply stating a fact.Its obvious also that people dont like the renovations at fox (again the numbers factor) - of course i have many ideas that I feel would bolster the numbers at sleaze,but hey,i'm not on MG board am I ? I would be if I could be , but thats an argument best left for the SGLMG Graffitti wall, and an argument I'm sick of debating
Talking Feet - Wed Sep 27 1:43:11 2000
talking feet, the actual reason attendances are falling for sleaze is because we have all been to sooooo many dance parties we are now starting to "get over it" a bit. if your reason was correct than surley mardi gras would be suffering the same result, but it is bigger than ever and continuing to grow! maybe a more objective view is in order from you?
Shaerin - Wed Sep 27 15:27:34 2000
Shaerin - Wed Sep 27 15:27:34 2000 For heavens sake !!!!!! Have you forgotton the main and sole reason for MG party being so busy ? Does the term "overseas tourists" mean anything to you ? I know that the numbers of sydney people attending BoTH MG AnD Sleaze is falling at an alarming rate because , yes, we as sydney siders are indeed sick of dance parties but I blame MG for that (it all goes back to the slap hazard production of these parties since 1997).MG is always and will continue to be a sell out solely because of outta town people who dont know about the appauling politics of at Mardi Gras office.As for Sleaze well I can see this party degenerating into a one hall (5000 max) party in the years to come.And who will we blame for this ?
Talking Feet - Wed Sep 27 15:56:33 2000
you are basing your so called facts on what? how do you know the major attendances for mg are overseas tourists? are you the sole ticket seller? i think not. yet another disgruntled mg hater who post without bothering to check that the information is correct. (i am not saying mg is perfect, but it really irks me when people like you take "artistic license" when trying to make a point). all you need to do is make sure you can back up what you are saying, then we might take you seriously :))
Shaerin - Wed Sep 27 16:06:12 2000
talking feet -how do you know the production of the party is slap hazard? are you one of the producers, or are you again speculating ? and what does the politics of mg (regardles of whether they are right or wrong) have to do with production values of the parties. you seem to be getting two distinct and different issues mixed up. go back and rethink your comments and when you have sorted out the two issues in your head and then have the proof you need to make some of your statements, then come back and post away!
Dammit Janet - Wed Sep 27 16:50:55 2000
Re the overseas tourists issue.The NSW Government Tourist Bureau statistics over the last 4 years have shown a huge increase in the number of overseas tourists to Sydney in the 2 weeks leading up to The Mardi Gras party.You only have to half a brain to realise that the number of out of town people attending MG Party is on the sharp increase whilst the numbers of Sydney siders attending is on the plummett.Just about every new person I met at MG party this year was from Overseas.I'm not knocking this , in fact on an economic level its great for Sydney to have an increasing number of tourists spending their dollars here , its just it disturbs me how when the tourists are not here (the other 50 weeks of the year) that dance party attendances in Sydney (with the particular emphasis on Sleaze Ball) is in drastic decline.That to Me says that Sydney people arent so much sick of dance parties in general (ie, look at the way Frisky sells out everytime) but more so how drab Sleaze Ball in the way it is presented to us has become !
Talking Feet - Wed Sep 27 17:22:19 2000
Isn't it strange when people talk about "the party degenerating into a one hall party" and at the same time yearn for the good ol' days of sleazy Sleaze when that is all it was then, a one hall party. For years & years. Obviously Mardi Gras is going to be hard to keep from growing larger, but I actually like the idea that Sleaze can be kept to under 15,000 permanently. And anyway, even at that size it is still second only to Mardi Gras as the largest and most successful queer party in Australia, so forecasts of its imminent demise are somewhat premature. And references to "slap hazard production" values are wildly at variance with both local and international professional opinions on the matter, which rate them among the worlds best.
~!@#$%^ - Wed Sep 27 17:34:01 2000
Talking feet, honey, I love Frisky and i don't always love Sleaze, but Frisky is a party for under 2000 people, in a nightclub for god sake. Sleaze Ball, even at its most under-attended is still well over 10,000.
Wed Sep 27 17:40:46 2000
i love the "sharp increase" and "plummett" uses in talking feets diatribe. nothing like dramatics to help increse the validity of a biased and uninformed view! probably a good thing he only met overseas people at mg, imagine the forthcoming bitterness presented to locals! why if you hate mg and sleaze so much were you even there you f@#$ing hypocrite!
Brad and Janet - Wed Sep 27 19:54:14 2000
a few years back my friends and i went to every single dance party on the calender. now i can hardly raise a pair of platform shoes for mg. i do not think the parties are lacking in anything in particular, i think we are just over the whole dance party scene because we have done them to death. but what is the alternative? even going to a nightclub is same-old, same-old.
Wed Sep 27 20:19:33 2000
Well, at your age, gardening is a good pastime.
Wed Sep 27 20:51:48 2000
my age is 33 i hardly consider that elderly!
Wed Sep 27 22:34:22 2000
~!@#$%^ - Wed Sep 27 17:34:01 2000 When I was talking about "the good old days" I was referring to the period 1990-1996 when there was indeed more than one pavilion , when the party did indeed have a great sleazy feel to them (unlike the clinical dullness under the new owners - thanks alot Fox) , when the crowd was predominately Gay and Lesbian , and when issues like DJ selection wasn't the be all and end all of the discussion about the night.All this aside , it disturbs me that the attendences of Sleaze are still falling and I fear for the future of Mardi Gras if Sleaze does indeed in the future fall to a party of less than 10,000. Remember,that Sleaze funds Mardi Gras and all the festivities that are put on during February each year. If Sleaze falls to a smaller attending party - can SGLMG give us a Mardi Gras party without going bankrupt itself ? The answer is NO (unless ticket prices go up to a point where entrance is unaffordable to the average "Joe"). SGLMG must take the full responsibilty for the falling attendences.The people are talking with their feet and not showing up.This means that SGLMG is not getting it right and need to address this problem now before the clock runs out.Something new has to be done to put Zing back into Sleaze.As for Brad and Janet's rude posting (why cant people post on here without reverting to vulgarity) - I go to every MG and Sleaze for the above reason.I spend my $100 in the hope that in some small way that my attendence is part of a bigger issue and as such I am contributing towards keeping the G&L community alive.I have hated the last few Sleaze parties,but I attend because I know that my attendence money goes towards the funding of the Mardi Gras Parade,Festival and Party each year.There are bigger issues at stake compared to going to a dance party and getting off your face twice a year !
Talking Feet - Thu Sep 28 0:55:11 2000
Brad and Janet - Wed Sep 27 19:54:14 2000 Here's a thought for you.Instead of showing up at Sleaze at taking your 6 ekky's each,why not buy 5 each and donate the rest to SGLMG.Its for a higher and better cause and should take away all those nasty negative feelings that you posted a few hours ago.
Talking Feet - Thu Sep 28 1:08:21 2000
So, Talking Feet, it's the "zing" factor, instead of those 'slaphazard production values', that now constitute for you the fatal flaw since 1996 ? Ok, but 2 parties since then have in fact been the most successful on record -"Voodoo Circus"'96 and "Atlantis"'97 both of which had a fair amount of zing, and sleaze as I recall, (including a performances by Dead or Alive, Loni Gordon, Tina Arena & the late Troughman in the Dome Fridges!). You're right that attendances have been affected by the renovations over the last two parties, but Homo Sutra was a sensational party with probably the best decorated venues ever and the best costumed crowd I've ever seen at any party anywhere. I'm sorry you didn't enjoy it, but lots of people did. Your view that Sleaze is the financial backbone of Mardi Gras is no longer correct. The Mardi Gras Party is now the major earner for the organisation, and because it is guaranteed to sell out it actually takes a lot of pressure off Sleaze which always used to be 'the fundraiser'. Both parties do fund the Festival, the Parade,workshop,Launch, administration etc, and its good that people like you realise that party profits aren't being squandered but are used to finance the larger cultural contribution that mg seeks to make in our community. We don't always get it right, but thats because we make mistakes, not because we don't care. We are actually all on the same side as you TF, and we work as hard as we can (most of us for nothing) to make the parties as fabulous as we can, and still profitable enough to fund the largest gay and lesbian cultural organisation in the world. Help us make them better with suggestions, constuctive criticism and volunteering. Mardi gras isn't someone else, or something else, it's us, and what we create of it.
~!@#$%^ - Thu Sep 28 2:14:24 2000
~!@#$%^ - Thu Sep 28 2:14:24 2000 - I stand corrected by your infinite wisdom. Sleaze 1997 (Atlantis) was indeed truly a great event (it was the last one I actually enjoyed). The two Steve DJ's in the RHI (Carley & Blomfeld) were outstanding, pity they havent been heard from recently,maybe thats my problem. DJ chat aside (which as you can tell from my previous posting actually does not rule my life,unlike others on this board) I think you and I are actually starting to see a few things eye to eye. Although I still take you to task about recent Sleaze Balls. Do you Really think that sleaze attendences will grow again given the drop in figures in 1998 & 1999 ? Do you really think MG can survive if Sleaze bottoms out to a under 10,000 party either in 2000 or 2001 - I DO NoT ! So SGLMG is trying hard, well thats all fine and dandy but in my opinion they need to try harder.
Talking Feet - Thu Sep 28 3:00:36 2000
If sleaze numbers drop below 10000, I am sure that MG can survive. They sre constantly trying to become less reliant on Sleaze as a fund raiser by engaging in ventures such as MG travel, MG music, the pool party etc. Some of these have been successful, others not, but it still demonstrates the organisations willingness to evolve. MG needs it volunteers & membership base to further support it if it is to try harder. What they don't need is people constantly trying to slag off the organisation by sitting behind thier computer and typing nonsense.
5:55 - Thu Sep 28 8:14:48 2000
5:55 Dont be so daft and blindsided.If sleaze ball continues in its current trend with its poorly dropping attendences since the peak of 1997 then there is nothing surer than SGLMG having to (A) Cut corners on the MG Festival, (B) Set up a Slash and Burn Razor Gang which will result in MG Festival items being dropped from the agenga or done "cheaply" ,or far more seriously (C) MG having to push the cost of a MG party ticket up and up and up beyond the reach of the average person.The cost of MG party ticket has already spiralled in wild excessess over the rise in CPI over the last few years. Can you imagine what the ticket might cost in 2003 and beyond.I'd say $200 isnt that far away !! SGLMG may not (in your opinion) rely solely on Sleaze to Fund MG but lets face facts - it is the majority fund raiser.MG Music was a flop , MG Travel is a joke ,The Pool party is fantastic. MG need to keep exploring successful events like the pool party but cant rest on their lorals and need to find more events that will sparks our interest.Particulary while we as Sydney's G&L community have decided that we dont enjoy attending sleaze and wont support it in the sort of numbers pre 1998.And is any of my posting nonsence, I dont think so. On a final note to 5:55 - You critisise me for sitting behind my computer and slagging off the organisation , I suspect you were almost going to tell me to get off my bum and get pro-active since I have so many fabulous ideas.Well let me put this to you.On four seperate occassions (i'll repeat that FoUR) I have expressed an interest on my MG renewal form to want to volenteer to do something for MG(eg Fair Day committee,Festival commitee etc etc).I have never ever received a call back.A friend told me that MG wont accept volunteers on its committees unless somebody at MG knows your name or knows who you are. I am just MR Average who wants to help out but I cant even get a look in on a volentary level cause I dont know anybody in the kingdom at Erskineville.I'm standing here with my hand up by I'm being ignored !
Talking Feet - Thu Sep 28 11:58:06 2000
First off, you're still ignoring the fact that the incredibly reliable and highly successful Mardi Gras Party is now the 'majority' earner for Mardi Gras as an organisation. So your predictions of imminent slash and burn necessities and $200 tickets are unrealistic, and unnecessarily pessimistic. With regards to your willingness to volunteer - good on you! Ring the Mardi Gras office after this Olympic nonsense is over(lots of mg staff are working on the Games)and ask to speak to Craig Duke, he's the volunteer coordinator. A great thing to get involved in is the bump-in for Sleaze, if you have any time at all in the week 4-11/11. It's great if you can make it - it's how I first got involved and its one of the best things I've ever done.
~!@#$%^ - Thu Sep 28 13:14:29 2000
Wow, now this IS impressive. So much 'debate'. I'm afraid that while you have some points Talking Feet you are actually Talking outta your Arse a lot of the time. Let me just take ONE point you raise about the 'good old days' of 1990 to 96 when the party was mostly gay and lesbian. Go look at the Sydney Star's archives and have a rethink.
EC - Thu Sep 28 14:15:03 2000
talking feet, i would like to apologise to you for my cutting cooments re your posting yesterday. as i said previously, it irks me when people cannot back up their postings with fact and i feel your posting in regard to overseas visitors etc cannot be backed up. i do like to he idea of you wanting to become involved though, that impresses me immensely! i hope you do phne craig duke and contribute your ideas, so the parties can improve and become even more successful than they already are. i have spoken with someone from mg and they assure me steps are being taken to try and improve sleaze to help bring it back on track. good luck with your volunteering.
Brad and Janet (the non drug takers) - Thu Sep 28 15:42:32 2000
Does anyone actually know the figures for Sleaze ? and by how much they have fallen ? I have been going since late 80's and it only seems to be bigger and bigger and if it has dropped over the last few years is it by 100's or 1,000's.
? - Thu Sep 28 15:46:21 2000
last years was the lowest with 14 000, however when you consider it 14 000 is still a big f-cking party! maybe we need to re-evaluate our thinking in regards to comparrisons between mg and sleaze. mg is global, sleaze is local and so will never attract the same numbers and popularity. who says that a party needs a certain amount of people to be good. maybe 14 000 is as good as we can get for sleaze.
Shaerin - Thu Sep 28 16:02:55 2000
My dream for Sleaze is to have posted outside people with scales and pinch tests plus proof of age. That way we can have young, sexy fit men only and no fatties. Oh hang on I am overweight. Oh dear, oh well all welcome then.
No Pecs Lots of Sleaze Sex - Thu Sep 28 16:33:02 2000
Well this is extraordinary. I thoroughly enjoyed Homosutra and thought the shows were some of the most evocative and dramtaic I have ever seen. I could do without the endless thumpy-thumpy non-vocal stuff but the music in the early hours in the Dome (all that bluesy jazzy saxophone stuff) is just fine. What exactly is that's so awful about the parties (and don't launch please into those tedious baggings of individual DJs)? What exactly would make the parties better?
PaulDiamondo - Thu Sep 28 19:23:52 2000
? - Thu Sep 28 15:46:21 2000... The figures for sleaze have been approximately - 1997 it peaked at over 20,000 & 1999 was just a little under 14,000 - 1998 was somewhere in between the 1997 and 1999 figures. So In my opinion thats a very unhealthy statistic !! Food for thought !! And to my friends out there,thank you for your advise...i shall call this Craig Duke after the olympics,thanks ! But it still disturbs me that four times previously I was ignored when I offered my services as a volunteer.Can ANYbody offer an explaination for this ?
Talking Feet - Thu Sep 28 19:24:46 2000
Damn I Wish I Was Talking Feet's Lover.
Thu Sep 28 21:35:58 2000
there seems to be an (unrealistic) expectation that the employees of mg are perfect. well guess what, they are just like you and me - they are busy, dedicated workers who sometimes are too busy to help others and they have off days too. there is not one business in the world where the employees are 100% fabulous, so why should we expect mg to be any different. my adive tf is if you really want to be a volunteer, then keep trying until you get what you want. also remember that mg and sleaze times are absolutely manic in the office so i would not expect too much at those times.
Shaerin - Thu Sep 28 21:39:38 2000
Shaerin - Thu Sep 28 21:39:38 2000 - What rubbish !! Here I am offering myself free to MG to help.You'd think that they would jump at these sorts of offers yet i've been ignored.I'm sorry Shaerin (should call you Dr Spock) because you argument is illogical.
Talking Feet - Thu Sep 28 22:26:19 2000
Hey Talking Feet, a couple of things - First off, your numbers for attendance at Sleaze are wildly inaccurate. I actually have the exact figures in front of me and you are more than 3,000 over for 1997, so no wonder you've been so concerned about dropping numbers! I don't know who you got those figures from but they are all completely wrong, including last years which is also several thousand off. Second, you previously expressed interest in working volunteer for Mardi gras, according to your post, by ticking a box on your renewal form, one of thousands with the same tick on them. Volunteers man the phones to try to contact people who have ticked the same box as you. Sometimes they get through, sometimes they don't. Interestingly though, the very people you are accusing of 'ignoring' you are other unpaid volunteers making thousands of phone calls to assemble the volunteer army that mardi gras becomes evey year. If you weren't there when they called, or you didn't get the message, or they just didn't get around to you - thats a shame. But the other thousands who do successfully volunteer are proof that in many, many cases the system does work for those who genuinely seek to help out. Hopefully by giving you Craigs name any previous difficulty you might have experienced, wont be repeated!
~!@#$%^ - Thu Sep 28 23:04:23 2000
Well come on Talking Feet, take up the challenge instead of just sitting there bitching about how bad Mardi Gras is and offering no solutions. After all, all those volunteers must come from somewhere.
EC - Thu Sep 28 23:13:54 2000
Please - constructive criticisms about the ways to make the parties better.
PaulDiamondo - Thu Sep 28 23:36:08 2000
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Fri Sep 29 13:33:07 2000
free drugs
Fri Sep 29 13:34:01 2000
sex on demand, free booze, huge stars performing wherever I look, enchiladas, a steam room/swimming complex, a place to take my dog, free makeovers by Kevin Acoin, limo service, and those fabulous hovercraft thingamees to get around between the halls...
Fri Sep 29 14:54:52 2000
All I want is the chance for some nasty, dirty (and lots of fun!!!) backroom sex at some point during the evening!..... and one of those fabulous hovercraft thingamees to get around between the halls.
Northern Light - Fri Sep 29 16:14:50 2000
I think Northerns lights drugs kicked in way too early today !! Most amusing !!! :)
Talking Feet - Fri Sep 29 16:37:28 2000
Um....er....who's Kevin Acoin?
PaulD - Sat Sep 30 13:14:32 2000
Awesome black 1967 Cadillac hearse for hire, the only hearse licensed in NSW as a private hire vehicle and now available to take you and your partner to the Sleaze Ball or whatever function you desire. Check the website at (deleted)
Allan - Sat Sep 30 21:21:33 2000
Awesome black 1967 man for hire, the best man in NSW as a private hire and now available available to take you and your partner to the Sleaze Ball or whatever function you desire.
Fallan - Sat Sep 30 21:59:26 2000
Is the boy friend a dead f**k? Or just a stiffy?? Dead boring perhaps? Is that why you need a hearse??
Sat Sep 30 23:51:33 2000
What's this about the "late" troughman? Is this recent, although he had an understudy (prodige?) at Mardi Gras - I am sure he was there.
Mon Oct 2 13:24:27 2000
that article in SSO about the Sleaze hordern DJs is hillarious ! I love Allkins music, but he's such a self important wanker * this is my opinion* I recognised the girl with the long black hair in the picture (sweta), but who was the other guy with the short dark hair ? is he a new DJ ?
this is the onion of the poser - Mon Oct 2 23:06:56 2000
Toni Braxton. Sounds to make you sleazy ... ?
Tue Oct 3 15:36:12 2000
Are tans in fashion, or shall i cover myself in fake tan. what is the best fake tan. can i pay someone professionally to tan me. will it be cold in sydney in nov, or shall I have someone waiting by the gates with a cardi and hot cup of something??
tanless - Tue Oct 3 16:29:06 2000
Donatella Versace says "nothing is better for your health than a suntan & a cigarette". I'm cool with that.
Mr Panties - Tue Oct 3 18:41:08 2000
that's right Mr P !
Chiclet - Tue Oct 3 22:45:05 2000
The other "guy" with the short dark hair is actually a woman - DJ Annabelle Gaspar.
TW - Wed Oct 4 0:07:10 2000
Sleaze is baking. No cardies required - you'd die.
PaulD - Wed Oct 4 18:04:50 2000
Actually I could have sworn Annabelle was mentioned by name in the accompanying article.
EC - Wed Oct 4 18:32:42 2000
i think someone(2/10/23:06) was being clever, as in gosh darn sometimes nowadays you can't tell the fellas from the sheilas!!!Yukyukyuk!!!!!!
Thu Oct 5 1:00:11 2000
she has butch queen realness
Thu Oct 5 20:58:07 2000
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Fri Oct 6 13:59:35 2000
someone please kill him!!!
Fri Oct 6 14:48:13 2000
you might get to kill me in 36 days time - but then again there will be A NYE countdown then :P
Fri Oct 6 15:39:41 2000
This board commenced a bit too early perhaps.
Sat Oct 7 2:12:14 2000
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Sat Oct 7 15:38:18 2000
somebody failed their mathematics exams at school i think
Sat Oct 7 20:41:59 2000
more likely you have no idea what's happening in 2 days time
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Sun Oct 8 11:46:59 2000
Mg can't be too concerned about shrinking the size of sleaze. Word is they are only releasing 12000 tickets.
Sun Oct 8 13:43:35 2000
14 000 actually
Sun Oct 8 16:33:17 2000
And word is they will be lucky to sell 10,000 of them
Sun Oct 8 16:56:37 2000
And word is that the many people that have bought tickets will have a F*cking great time!
Sun Oct 8 19:39:34 2000
i shall be very interested to see if MG gets caught out selling < 10,000 time will tell
Sun Oct 8 20:47:45 2000
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Mon Oct 9 12:35:19 2000
Why do some of you sound like you are wishing that it will happen (Sleaze not selling well)? That attitude is just the pits.
Nat - Mon Oct 9 13:16:28 2000
I think some people out there want SGLMG to fail so that they can complain about the lack of a community organisation supporting their rights, and the lack of entertainment and parties put on for Lesbians and Gays - some people aren't happy unless they have something to complain about.
Mon Oct 9 16:13:24 2000
True but in the end it's a tiny minority. I don't think it's going to fail. I'm planning to sleep in the queue outside the Dome for up to a week if necessary ;-)
EC - Mon Oct 9 16:33:17 2000
I don't think Sleaze should be judged on whether it sell out or not. It is a huge space to fill on a non-holiday weekend. Like Inquisition a few months ago, the soothsayers will be predicting the financial worst, but it will be well attended, will be more the busy enough for the vibe in all spaces, and not too crowded as to be uncomfortable. It will be fantastic, just like last year's!
Mara - Mon Oct 9 17:47:18 2000
Mon Oct 9 16:13:24 2000 - Since when was MG a gay rights organisation?
Mon Oct 9 21:56:09 2000
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Tue Oct 10 2:54:26 2000
What ? Has somebody turned 40 ?
Tue Oct 10 9:21:34 2000
2 days to go Sat Oct 7 15:38:18 2000 - if "it" was 2 days to go on sunday - then why is today (tuesday) "the day" ? Mathematics tell me that 2 days from Saturday is a Monday (not a Tuesday) - Unless you are running on some hindu calendar or something !
Tue Oct 10 9:23:59 2000
****TyPO***** rewritten - 2 days to go Sat Oct 7 15:38:18 2000 - if "it" was 2 days to go on saturday - then why is today (tuesday) "the day" ? Mathematics tell me that 2 days from Saturday is a Monday (not a Tuesday) - Unless you are running on some hindu calendar or something !
Tue Oct 10 9:26:44 2000
The Bajoran calendar has 26 hours a day.
Tue Oct 10 10:01:43 2000
Actually the message is correct. Saturday was the day the posting was made. Sunday - one day, Monday one day, then Tuesday was the day it (whatever it was) happened.

I think the rest of you are mixing it up with "2 sleeps to go"
Tue Oct 10 17:09:49 2000

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Tue Oct 10 19:56:20 2000
How lame. Come on you can do better than that!
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is that better ? - Tue Oct 10 21:41:40 2000
Oanther can you block the moron?
This is definitely the opinion of the poster - Tue Oct 10 21:43:26 2000
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Wed Oct 11 11:47:48 2000
If you want 20,000 people there - give a thought as to who those 20,000 will be. Sleaze is a smaller market than MG Party for some pretty obvious reasons. I'm happy to pay more for a ticket, have the party over two pavillions (save costs from the third) make the thing sell out and become a 'must do' event again and party with 10,000 glbt people. If you think $100 plus is too much - explain why DIVA is $90?? Pride and Inquisiton are around the same but check out the difference in production values and ask yourself where do the funds from those parties go???
Herman Value - Wed Oct 11 13:03:54 2000
yesterday WAS the day
Wed Oct 11 13:34:01 2000
Don't the funds for Pride and Inquisition go to the organisations that organised them (just like Sleaze and MG) ???
Wed Oct 11 16:36:21 2000
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Thu Oct 12 9:08:48 2000
Sleaze 2000 Degrees - Auditions

Sydney Gay+Lesbian Mardi Gras Party Committee are looking for volunteer performers for various shows to be staged at Sleaze.

You don't need to have experience or be a great dancer. We are looking for people with various shapes, sizes, looks at ability. If you have the commitment and enthusiasm to be in a show, and if you are lesbian or gay, please join in the fun and come along to auditions.

This Saturday 14th October
10am-1pm or 2pm-5pm
Heffron Hall cnr Burton and Palmer St Darlinghurst

Hope to see you there!
SG+LMG - Thu Oct 12 17:42:42 2000
Re the last posting...PaSS !
Thu Oct 12 18:46:25 2000
Hope we get some good goss about the shows.
PaulD - Thu Oct 12 19:13:46 2000
I've just read todays SSO and it's gotten me excited about Sleaze. Dome is gonna rock! Go Mark Murphy!
Thu Oct 12 19:14:39 2000
being after midnight i suppose i can say that there is

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Fri Oct 13 0:18:05 2000
OMG - It works !
Fri Oct 13 0:19:01 2000
least the annoying countdown boy is getting more creative with his postings of the last 2 days........ the 30 day one actually made me laugh
Getting excited about sleaze - Fri Oct 13 9:08:56 2000
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Fri Oct 13 19:37:33 2000
someone with waaaaaaaay too much time on his hands.
Sat Oct 14 0:05:29 2000
Mr Countdown: Are you going to make a fabulous costume in your 49000 minutes?
Sat Oct 14 10:17:05 2000
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Sat Oct 14 12:22:30 2000
what's the bet he's an accountant.
Sat Oct 14 13:00:23 2000
Wrong ! nothing could be further from the truth
Sat Oct 14 14:39:50 2000
the live acts are back.......should i ruin the surprise????
Sat Oct 14 17:33:37 2000
Yes you should ruin teh suprise. Are we talking shows or artists
Sun Oct 15 0:39:49 2000
Yes do tell ......
PaulD - Sun Oct 15 10:07:33 2000
Tina Cousins...believe it or not
Sun Oct 15 16:45:10 2000
I'll be having too much fun in the Dome to care who is performing. I've waited years for Mardi Gras to catch up. Now, five years after my first ever visit to Trade in London, I'm finally going to hear that sound in a designated space at a Mardi Gras/Sleaze party. I know that I am going to have my best Sleaze ever.
Sun Oct 15 22:03:29 2000
she is also back for frisky the next night!
Sun Oct 15 22:24:41 2000
did anyone go to those auditions for sleaze? if so , what was it like?
Sun Oct 15 23:05:21 2000
Damn Damn Damn Damn Damn and double Dam - I went out Saturday night and got home Sunday about midnight so i forgot my daily posting - oh well - shit happens.If you missed me then I am sorry - I will try not to slip up again - So here goes - 26 Days To Go 26 Days To Go 26 Days To Go 26 Days To Go 26 Days To Go 26 Days To Go 26 Days To Go 26 Days To Go 26 Days To Go 26 Days To Go 26 Days To Go 26 Days To Go 26 Days To Go 26 Days To Go 26 Days To Go 26 Days To Go 26 Days To Go 26 Days To Go 26 Days To Go 26 Days To Go 26 Days To Go 26 Days To Go 26 Days To Go 26 Days To Go 26 Days To Go 26 Days To Go 26 Days To Go 26 Days To Go 26 Days To Go
Mon Oct 16 14:28:28 2000
I read with avid interest the article in last weeks star observer where the subject of hard banging house is being brought to the dome. From the outset let me say that this style of music is crap (in my opinion).However i do acknowledge that there is a market for it and the decision to use Dome is a fair one.What disturbs me was what Mark Murphy had to say in his interview.It was stated in a round about way that his opinion was that banging hard music is the currently most popular style at the moment and that he thinks that in the near future that this style will be brought into the bigger halls (RHI-Hordern).
I could not agree more strongly !
The basis of my argument is quite simple.It is widely known that a large percentage (I would say 30-40%) of people who attend Sleaze and Mardi Gras do so as one of there VErY few nights out on "the scene" during the year - factors such being in relationships or living in regional NSW are two prime examples.
Some of my best and closest friends are in long term relationships and have no interest whatsoever in going out on "the scene" except for 3 times a year (MG/Sleaze/and NYE).If i suggest to them to come out for a drink I literally have to drag them kicking and screeming.
This large percentage of people who attend MG/Sleaze and are not week in weekout clubbers have no concept as to what the current trend of club music is.Therefore,more vocal mainstream music is all they know.
For these people to be hit with Mark Murphys style of music in the RHI would be a total killjoy for this large percentage of party goers.
Music trends come and go and be rest assured Banging house will fall away into obscurity just as quickly as all the other silly music styles of years gone by (acid house - italo house - techno - new NRG etc etc) - mainstream handbag will always be around and appeal to a large percentage of party goers (lets remember that mainstream handbag has been around since the early Stock Aitken Waterman days 1983) and its still going strong after all that time where other more "off beat" fad music style have gone to the grave.
Banging House in the dome ? Fine and dandy - but lets not ever give it a bigger room at the expense of the majority of people who prefer the RHI style of music.
Banging House - The death bell is tolling - Mon Oct 16 15:08:55 2000
Well that is very bad news indeed. The Dome has always (well for years) had a really distinctive sound which fits well with the Sleaze idea - namely sultry, smokey, jazzy music thatmakes me (and lots of others too) feel sexy and tingley. Endless thumpy-bangy music is not my idea of fun at all. Death Bell has pt the argument very well indeed.
PaulD - Mon Oct 16 19:17:00 2000
Sleaze emulates Trade (5 years too late). in 5 years, will it emulate Gatecrasher ? (barf) shoot me now if the answer is *yes*
Chiclet (hold the cheese) - Mon Oct 16 19:31:55 2000
oh, before you ask .... yes ! I have been to Trade & I found it to be most unpleasant. I also dont like the Beresford & Blackmarket "dayclub".
Chiclet - Mon Oct 16 19:34:46 2000
the wanna-be-rocket-launcher is not an accountant. He's the publicity officer at MG. They've had some funding cuts lately. And they're abit short on ideas.......
It's a joke - don't sue! - Mon Oct 16 22:32:56 2000
I wouldn't panic too soon Bangin House. If a large percentage of gay men (and lesbian?) still want Top 40 style dance music then Mardi Gras will provide it somewhere. We are talking about the Dome afterall, a rather small space all things considered. But you also have to be realistic about these things. There are still plenty of people moaning because the Village People aren't played at Mardi Gras any more. The world has moved on and queer people and music with it. Having hard house played in the Dome is not quite the sky falling, and Mark Murphy's opinion is just an opinion. Why panic about something that *may* happen five years down the road?
EC - Mon Oct 16 23:05:24 2000
Hmmm, should say that the banging house thing is only just being done properly in Sydney (for the mainstream) in the last year or so Trade's decline in popularity has little to do with the decline in its music style and more to do with it being busted last year. As someone pointed out, vocal house has been big for years, will continue to be big, is not the biggest style in Europe. Banging house and trance remians in the gay mainstream, as it has for 10 years, and will continue to do so. If Sydney is to catch up, it has a long way to go to meet the porpotions of followers in Europe. Sydney will always be influenced both byu the US (vocal house) and Europe, but is increasingly affected by Europe. MG must act on the fact that US visitors are declining and a greater proportion of Europeans are visiting their parties. The direction of MGs last year, especially Sleaze, is financially the correct decision if it is to maintain its numbers and attract new markets. MG has already done the Gatecrasher thing in the Hordern for years!
Pumpin - Mon Oct 16 23:40:25 2000
Go Mark Murphy! Go Baby Bear! Go Gonzalo! Bang Bang Bang Bang! Stomp Stomp Stomp! 3 Green CU's and a speedball or two, mix well in the Dome with a litre of sweat and we are finally talking about a party. See ya there.
Hard 'n Banging - Tue Oct 17 8:14:36 2000
Actually, I think that that sort of music, where the drops are not so long you are looking at your watch, you only need 1 Green CU. This is not ARQ or Frisky, you don't need to take drugs to make up for a lack of atmosphere!
Tue Oct 17 12:34:52 2000
Good grief.
Nat - Tue Oct 17 13:27:52 2000
EC - Mon Oct 16 23:05:24 2000 - It really really really (In bold and underlined) disturbes me that you think that that in 5 years time we might be in a position where the larger halls (RHI - Hordern) will be subjected to varying styles of music that differ from what is cyurrently on offer (particulary in reference to the RHI).The RHI has always been the hall that is the most commercial and it MuST stay that way forever because of the points i made in my original post (ie: people who are non scene and only party 2 or 3 times a year and are thus unfamiliar with week in week out oxford st music).
To even think of bringing a current trend "fad" style of music into the RHI would be the beginning of the end for MG and Sleaze parties because you would ever so slowly loose the patronage of those 30-40% of non scene people who go out only for MG and Sleaze and NYE parties.
If SGLMG were to have its MG and Sleaze parties attendences cut by 30-40% I doubt that the parties could survive financially (failing a horrific price hike in the cost of admission).
I respect the fact that banging hard house is popular at the moment - but it will Never (bold and underlined) be as popular as mainstream which has been around since the early 80's and is still going strong while other "fad" music styles have fallen by the wayside and gone to the grave.
Could you imagine if MG set up a hall in the year 2000 for the use of DJ's to play acid house or hard techno or Italo house (I think not) - banging house will be dead once it has run its course - mainstream will outlive all us !
Here's keeping mainstream in the main halls and restricting the "fad" music styles to where they belong - in the smaller minority halls.
Banging House - The death bell is tolling - Tue Oct 17 16:04:23 2000
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Tue Oct 17 18:08:08 2000
Banging house ....your argument calling for the retention of a music style in five years is pathetic and just shows how parochial you lot are sometimes. You say "Mainstream will out live us for ever"...really? Mainstream music is not by definition 'good', it is by definition what is 'popular' now. I went to Sleaze and Mardi Gras in the 80's and the 90's and have noticed huge changes in musical styles and musical policy. Its called progression and it creeps in all over the place until it does become more mainstream. That includes musical styles like 'hard-house' and other styles that are becoming popular like 'Garage'. What you're calling for is a stop to musical creativity and a stop to musical progression so that you can go securely from home listening to your tired old compilation CD, to your car with the aforementioned compilation cd taped, to a party like Mardi Gras or Sleaze Ball and hear that very same music you've been practicing dancing to at home. Don't you want to be surprised and inspired? Viva la difference!!!!
minority music lover - Tue Oct 17 20:14:19 2000
I don't think Banging House is saying that the music in the RHI should not progress; but that it has to stay commercial, mainstream, popular rather than fringe.
arti - Tue Oct 17 20:20:48 2000
Hmm...banging house a fad? Well, its been going on for 10 years so far. Popular in Syndey now? Only because those in influence have managed to keep it away from Sydney for so long. Gary Leesom, get off this board! :)
Tue Oct 17 20:24:24 2000
Er, that's Leeson and I think he's busy styling Jimmy Barnes these days.
Tue Oct 17 21:10:00 2000
minority music lover - Tue Oct 17 20:14:19 2000 - You are full of shit - if you wanna be playing your stupid fad music in 2005 then wont you be the one that looks stupid.Me on the other hand playing my commercial music in 2005 will still be playing music that will be considered current.I wonder if you ever moved on from acid house - i bet you still have smily face t-shirts in your wardrobe - Wanker !
Banging House - The death bell is tolling - Tue Oct 17 21:20:52 2000
"Mainstream will out live us for ever"...really? Mainstream music is not by definition 'good', it is by definition what is 'popular' now.
That statement is true today - it was true in the 80's - it was true in the 90's - and it will be true forever !
Mainstream may not be good in some peoples eyes but it will always (repeat) always be **the** most popular form of music
Varying styles of music come and then they go - Mainstream has outlived and will continue to outlive every other "style" of music !
And yes - it will outlive us all !
Banging House's flatmate (having his say) - Tue Oct 17 22:30:20 2000
Nothing wrong with popular, nothing wrong with mainstream,but what about shaking up the comfort zone a bit and make it fun and more importantly unpredictable? Just a couple of final question to you anti Banging House person ....would you walk off a dance floor if the DJ did throw in some acid house, or any other musical style that doesn't suit your requirements? And .. do you populate your clubbing wardrobe with the clothes featured in the fashion supplement of CapitalQ just before each big party. I think the answer to both of those is probably yes. I personally don't know what I'll be doing in 2005, but I sincerely hope that you might have grown up by then....get out a bit more ..and get a life.
minority music lover - Tue Oct 17 22:39:40 2000
This is the sound of accccccciiiiiiiiiiiiiddddddddddd !
Tue Oct 17 23:50:33 2000
Hmmm. His argument is flawed. RHI in the past have served lashinhs of Trouser Enthusiasts, Almighty, Motiv8 and yes, even Perfect Day by Indigo. You won't be hearing much of that this time. Lots of vocal trance and, iof course, the staple diet of US Vocal House, which of course is unfortunately still with us. But even the Americans are slowly adondoning that!
Who cares how you spell Leesom? - Tue Oct 17 23:51:11 2000
re the previous posting - RHI - expect lots of sleaze sisters , even some almighty and lots of commercail stuff particulary in the first 4 hours with Jake on board - we all know Barry (thunderpuss) will be playing heaps of his own stuff and as for Gregglez at the end yes it will be trancy but also expect lots of vocal and it will be very girly towards the end (expect that girly anthem "I Believe in Love - Paula Cole") - see - things dont really change - its just the angle you look at it.while certain remix teams come and go (Trousers,almighty etc) - Motiv8 are on the comeback (on a night like this - kylie) there are always new remix teams pumping out the great handbag commercial stuff that the majority of party goers love (current big remix teams being sleaze sisters,Good As You and Love to Infinity ! The demand always exceeds the supply !
see me dance around my hadbag ! - Wed Oct 18 0:51:58 2000
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Wed Oct 18 1:52:50 2000
House =4x4beat structure. Hard house too. HiNrg too. Disco too. It aint about art or a revolution, Its a folking party! Chill out or give up.
Wed Oct 18 11:43:20 2000
House =4x4beat structure. Hard house too. HiNrg too. Disco too. It aint about art or a revolution, Its a folking party! Chill out or give up. Wed Oct 18 11:43:20 2000

Please talk in a language that normal people can understand.Your jibberish is worse than trying to understand a drunked Pommie on New Years Eve.
Wed Oct 18 12:41:02 2000
The demise of Almighty, Motiv8 etc for the sounds of new remixers and sounds is testament that the popular commercial sounds are in fact changing over time.
Wed Oct 18 13:04:51 2000
If the above posting is so then why are almighty the most highly sort after remix team for pop-commercial remixes in the UK at the Moment churning out on average one new remix per week on average ? Also Motiv8 who won the coverted prize of getting to do the commercial dance remix of "On a Night Like This" by Kylie Minogue as well as the New Erasure single
Hardly the "demise" of almighty or Motiv8 if you ask me !!
Pop Boy - Wed Oct 18 13:10:57 2000
And don't forget that there is no sleaze at this year's Sleaze. First one that I will miss (quite deliberately) in 8 years.
lovin' it - Wed Oct 18 13:39:17 2000
Thanks Pop Boy (SB), but let's see if they get played in the RHI|!
Wed Oct 18 15:58:12 2000
ive asked this b4 but noone answered so i am going to ask it again. did anyone go to those auditions that were advertised on here around the 14th? if so, what was it like?
Wed Oct 18 17:11:22 2000
dear lovin' it - how can you know there will be no sleaze at this years sleaze? what a childish and immature statement to make. (you obviously must have crystal balls to be able to see into the future.) anyway if that is your attitude maybe it is a good thing you will not be there...
Shaerin - Wed Oct 18 17:46:28 2000
I still don't get why a bunch of queens are getting their lycra in a knot over the music that's played in the Dome and some terrible fear that *one* day it might be heard in the RHI. It's like Pauline hanson worrying that Australia may be 10 per cent Asian in 100 years. Ridiculous. Things change. That's life.
EC - Wed Oct 18 18:59:36 2000
Well said, EC!
Thu Oct 19 9:09:04 2000
The Sky is Falling ... The Sky is falling ...
Chicken Little - Thu Oct 19 9:12:06 2000
Exactly EC. I can't even be bothered responding to their hysteria.
Nat - Thu Oct 19 9:47:19 2000
and there is 23 days to go and there is 23 days to go and there is 23 days to go and there is 23 days to go and there is 23 days to go and there is 23 days to go and there is 23 days to go and there is 23 days to go and there is 23 days to go and there is 23 days to go and there is 23 days to go and there is 23 days to go and there is 23 days to go and there is 23 days to go and there is 23 days to go and there is 23 days to go and there is 23 days to go and there is 23 days to go and there is 23 days to go and there is 23 days to go (And I am for the RHI argument,please dont ever give me hard banging shit in the main hall,my ears are too sensitve for that shit).
Thu Oct 19 11:18:14 2000
the auditions were like they always are - lots and lots of very nervous people trying to look fabulous and glamorous all at once. the routine wasn't really that hard, but it was fast and threw a lot of people off. over 200 turned up, but they apparently only need about half that for the shows.
audition peeker - Thu Oct 19 18:33:39 2000
this wall is really great. is it an indication of what the party will be like ? zzzzzzzz
Guess who, dont sue ! - Thu Oct 19 19:10:50 2000
I personally will ensure there is some sleaze at sleaze
PaulD - Thu Oct 19 19:14:05 2000
PaulD - Thu Oct 19 19:14:05 2000 - tell me where u intend creating the sleaze - i wanna be there !
amber - Thu Oct 19 19:58:06 2000
audition peeker - did they have any teary eyed fat girls running from the auditions in tears because they got rejected, and as they were leaving shouting out "who cares!! I was offered a recording contract by another company! I don't need you! boo hooo sniffle sniffle"?? ;)
They should tape those things I reckon, imagine the sales of the next MG video. - Thu Oct 19 20:17:47 2000
Let's get some suggestions for extremes that people are going to go to for Sleaze. Hottest is the most obvious, but we are assured that we should not limit our options. How about tallest, brightest, wettest, fastest, most hung, most nude.
Panther - Thu Oct 19 20:54:10 2000
Mmm - at 9.30pm there is 33,150 minutes to go 33,150 minutes to go 33,150 minutes to go 33,150 minutes to go 33,150 minutes to go 33,150 minutes to go 33,150 minutes to go 33,150 minutes to go 33,150 minutes to go 33,150 minutes to go 33,150 minutes to go 33,150 minutes to go 33,150 minutes to go 33,150 minutes to go ! Yes - i do have too much time on my hands !
Thu Oct 19 21:41:57 2000
my list of extremes for Sleaze ::: *Tallest* - Mark Murphy (Jaap's gone home) *Cheesiest* - the first set in the RHI (& under the foreskin of the Turkish "straight" guy ... goin' off ! to the music in the RHI) *Fattest* - the 2 bears that always wear viking horns & are covered in tatts. *DJ least capable of doing a flawless beatmix* - I'm bitin' my tongue for that one. *foxiest Tranny* - Chanel St Laurent/Science Fiction. *cheapest outfit* - Lance Leaopard. *wildest music* - Stephen Allkins (Nana !) *nicest DJ* - Sveta (mumma !) *most flamable wig or artificial hair* - Chiclet (that's me !) please dont diss my list ! I wrote it, so ya can just rack off if ya dont like it.
Chiclet - Thu Oct 19 22:52:37 2000
Chiclet - Thu Oct 19 22:52:37 2000 You bet i am gonna diss your list cause its just another example of how low you can go to make fun of things that are not to your liking - being constructive for once in your life Chiclet would be a very big surprise indeed. For once can you keep you bottle of acid on the shelf please ?
Shaking my head in disgust - Thu Oct 19 23:13:57 2000
A fwe years ago for Sleaze, a group of guys were planning to form 'DOAM' - Dicks Out at Midnight'. The idea was to kind challenge the straights at the party - they planned to all meet in the centre of the dancefloor of RHI and all get their dicks out at midnight. Although it was a bit of a let down (maybe I was in the wrong 'middle of the dancefloor')maybe something like that could be the trigger for the sleaze we are after! Anyone up for it?
Northern Lights - Fri Oct 20 0:26:19 2000
Northern Lights - Fri Oct 20 0:26:19 2000 - To set the record straight it was at Sleaze 1997 at it was at 1AM not midnight ! How do i know ? I worked on "that" party , named "Atlantis"
Fri Oct 20 0:49:04 2000
so who are the 2 other live acts apart from tina cousins peforming??.......they are advertising 3 live acts on the poster.....I wanna know!!!
Fri Oct 20 1:29:26 2000
Read about the origin of DO@1.
Panther - Fri Oct 20 9:07:06 2000
Apparently 'PINK' has signed the dotted line for a show at Sleaze...'There we go....'
There you go... - Fri Oct 20 10:47:42 2000
The official word from Madonna's manager is in and DJ Barry Harris (Thunderpuss--Dive into the Pool) has been handselected to remix Madonna's new single "Don't Tell Me." DJ Harris's manager was quoted to saying "Expect to hear it very soon"
Will the lady herself be there ???? - Fri Oct 20 14:46:50 2000
Whats this i get in the mail from SGLMG today ? Another promotional piece of pamphletting trying to push Sleaze Ball ticket sales ? Are sales "really" that slow that we need to be reminded ? I can detect a sense of panic happening round Erskineville way at the moment.
And yes - i have already bought my ticket. - Fri Oct 20 15:06:28 2000
No panic - but really you'd better get in quick cause if you leave it to the last minute you will miss out. Almost 80% sold already and looking like all the tickets will go with a week to go.

Don't say I didn't warn you...
someone who does know... - Fri Oct 20 15:21:37 2000
and just to keep the ball rolling i thought it was a timely announcement that there is 22 days to go !@!@@! 22 days to go !@!@@! 22 days to go !@!@@! 22 days to go !@!@@! 22 days to go !@!@@! 22 days to go !@!@@! 22 days to go !@!@@! 22 days to go !@!@@! 22 days to go !@!@@! 22 days to go !@!@@! 22 days to go !@!@@! 22 days to go !@!@@! 22 days to go !@!@@! 22 days to go !@!@@! 22 days to go !@!@@! 22 days to go !@!@@! 22 days to go !@!@@!
Fri Oct 20 15:57:46 2000
dear chiclet, re your list - most turkish men are muslim and as such are circumsized. therefore a turkish straight guy having a cheesy foreskin a bit of an impossibility :))
Blue Vein Forever - Fri Oct 20 16:09:37 2000
I suspect that it is more truthful to say that 80% of tickets so far released have sold and that there is a hell of a lot of unreleased tickets that still have yet to be made available.
Remember how the olympics opening ceremony was "a sellout" a year in advance yet you could miraculously get tickets a week out from the event ?
Call me cynical - but I know Mardi Gras employs this same sort of marketing "tool".
In economic terms its done this way to cause a euphoria and a panic about the event to give the illussion it will sell out - but it wont !
And then in the aftermath of the non sell out the organisation will use the "plausible deniablity" statement and say it was a sell out - stating that they had in advance deliberately reduced the number of tickets available for varying reasons from safety to comfort levels etc etc etc.
Its a very old tried and tested marketing tool and to a degree it does work.
In the harsh reality of things a sell out is never "really" a sell out.
Economics - Fri Oct 20 16:09:46 2000
Why do some of you people seem so hell bent on destroying Sleaze Ball, and consequently Mardi Gras? What is the agenda of people such as "Economics" with messages such as the one above? Why can't you either enjoy the party or just not go? Why do you also have to try to ruin it for those of us who are going and really looking forward to it? Some of you need to get a f*cking life.
Fri Oct 20 16:47:11 2000
Fri Oct 20 16:47:11 2000 - Its my opinion and i am entitled to it - if you dont like what you read then dont read it. I'm still going to Sleaze and I shall have a great time I just want to point out some home truths. Like it or lump it.
Economics - Fri Oct 20 16:55:06 2000
Economics - then why have you been hovering over this wall for 46 minutes waiting for someone to bite?
Darrin Stephens - Fri Oct 20 17:01:08 2000
Cause im at work and hadnt closed this window
Fri Oct 20 17:07:54 2000
Darrin Stephens - Fri Oct 20 17:01:08 2000 Thanks for taking a bite as well !
Fri Oct 20 17:09:18 2000
Darrin , please chew your bite 10 times before u swallow
Fri Oct 20 17:29:15 2000
I can assure you that Tina Cousins is definitely not appearing.
PaulD - Fri Oct 20 18:35:10 2000
yeah yeah Ultra Nate Big bloody woop !!!
Fri Oct 20 19:16:40 2000
Mardi Gras has now been sending out a newsletter twice a year before the MG and Sleaze for a number of years. I am sure it is partly to promote ticket sales, but also partly I think it is now a habit.

I'll be looking forward to Ultra Nate!
Arti - Fri Oct 20 20:00:55 2000

god bless you Chiclet !
El Panteez - Fri Oct 20 20:50:05 2000
what....no blessing for me ?
the rest of the channel - Fri Oct 20 21:33:57 2000
the actual number of tickets to be sold for a party is decided long before the tickets actually go on sale. govt legislation dictates a certain amount of space to be available for each person and ticket numbers are usually dictated by the available space
Shaerin Magoodies - Fri Oct 20 22:07:27 2000
but the above can be shifted and juggled and manipulated to suit each different occassion with a bit of a wink and a nudge.
Fri Oct 20 22:45:48 2000
Actually ... in applying for a liqour licence for the party it is necessary to specify the number of people in attendance (the more people, the more expensive) - and if you specify too low and get more then you are in breach of your licence - thus SGLMG will know (and fix) the number of tickets well in advance of the party to permit application for and granting of the licence ... that aside, it has been public knowledge for some time that Sleaze has only about 15,000 tickets (or was that 10,000 - oops, I may have stuffed up) available ... so not sure where the fudging of the numbers will come in.
someone who laughs at all the pessimists and naysayers out there - Fri Oct 20 23:08:29 2000
Can't Wait!! Yes, the RHI is going to be relatively commercial, but for someone who goes to dance parties 3-4 times a year but loves dance music, that's great. Sing / shout along, hands in the air, be naughty, be happy. But wherever you end up - RHI, Horden or Dome - remember to smile to the people dancing next and close to you, boys or girls, straight or gay. We've learned about the Olympic ideal for months, now let's put these ideals and translate them to a MG Party.
Fri Oct 20 23:34:45 2000
tina is defenatley performing......she is confirmed for frisky the next night as well
Sat Oct 21 0:58:38 2000
if she is confirmed for Fwisky, then MG wont have her at their party. esp after the drama/cat fight of Lonnie Gordon doing Sleaze, then doing the recovery at Sublime. MG like their acts to be pretty exclusive to them.
Fat Lady - Sat Oct 21 10:12:32 2000
Tina Cousins at Sleaze - you are kidding boyo. And smiling at straights - do I have to Mummy?
PaulD - Sat Oct 21 10:24:38 2000
MG like their acts to be pretty exclusive to them. Fat Lady - Sat Oct 21 10:12:32 2000 ..... somehow i think i am gonna be abused by someone for this comment (but it IS my opinion so please respect it) but if MG are so protective of their "acts" then surely their "acts" should also be defined as the DJ's they use at their parties.If i was a DJ and was selected to do the "big gig" then honestly I think that's all I'd really want to do on that weekend so as to let the "experience" soak in.
As is it - DJ's who get to do MG Or Sleaze have to go out looking and seeking for 2,3,4 and more seperate gigs over that weekend. Is it a case of them trying to cash in on their "fame" for that weekend - i doubt it - I think it more a case that they have to do it to survive.
Looking in the gay press I use Luke Leal as an example.I like Luke and I respect his DJ'ing but from the papers it seems he is hop, skipping and jumping to at least 3 different venues on the Sunday night after Sleaze.Maybe he wants to do it and good luck to him - but the question is - **Should** he **HAvE** to do it ? And is it fair to dance punters to hear a DJ who is doing double and triple jobs on the same night ?? By his 3rd job is he so tired that he cant give 100% ??
Mardi Grad needs to respect its DJ's more and bring its pay rate into line with the rest of the world and treat its DJ's more like performers than a secondary act.
The DJ is just as important as the show performer (actually i think he/she is far far far more important) - they should be paid in a fairer way that reflects this statement.
After making some phone calls I found that MG pays its DJ's at best $250 p/h - our "performers" get more than that per **MiNUtE**.
I think a leveler playing field is in order and please again let me say - this is MY opinion - debate me if you disagree - dont slander me !
Blue Light Disco - Sat Oct 21 11:32:14 2000

Fri Oct 20 23:34:45 2000 -"remember to smile to the people dancing next and close to you, boys or girls, straight or gay"

Good on you - I'm straight (-ish), but am coming along to have a party - and dance with 9999 other party animals, gay, lesbian, bi, TV, whatever. See you there, luvved up and luvvin it.


Hard 'n Banging - Sat Oct 21 11:32:44 2000
HOw nice to be able to just come along to have a party! I don't live in a place that provides the options of Sleaze or Mardi Gras, so at significant expense, I fly to Sydney, pay accommodation, etc, etc, etc, for the parties. I love to 'have a prty', but it is also incredibly important to be in a crowd that is predominantly gay and lesbian, to feel like it's OK to be a bit queeny, to act up, play up, be overtly (homo)sexual, to know there are people doing all sort of things to and with all sorts of people ('queer' things), and, yes, to perve on great looking men with fabulous bodies without concern that I could be abused for doing it. I envy you your opportunities, Hard 'n Banging, to decide to just 'go along and have a party' without feeling any self-consciousness or threat from others due to your inclinations. I hope one day I will be able to decide to 'come along and have a party' at a straight-ish function and feel free of any angst. Have a great Sleaze, Hard 'n Banging
Sat Oct 21 14:35:51 2000
How bitter. But anyway, according to MG Tina is indeed performing.
Sat Oct 21 17:59:24 2000
guess what - dj's are asked to perform and are given the terms and conditions and they accept 99% of the time, hardly a "disrespectful" situation
Shaerin - Sat Oct 21 18:43:36 2000
That's right. It's a job.
Sat Oct 21 21:13:13 2000
Shaerin - Sat Oct 21 18:43:36 2000 - yes 99% of the time they do accept , however that still does not negate the fact that DJ's at Mardi Gras and Sleaze are grossly underpaid compared to the "performance acts"
Blue Light Disco - Sun Oct 22 2:14:57 2000
I agree with Blue Light. Tina Cousins - joke surely?
PaulD - Sun Oct 22 8:25:00 2000
I heard Tina is playing too (as well as at Frisky)
BND - Sun Oct 22 9:51:08 2000
why is it that lovers of handbag cheese music always try and justify their love for it ? (see some of the above posts) would it be fare to compare those to people to Mormons ? always trying to convert us to their way of (non)thinking. thanks, but I'm not interested.
Denon Cue Button - Sun Oct 22 11:35:50 2000
Denon Cue Button - Sun Oct 22 11:35:50 2000 Maybe the answer to your question is because you "Non-Lovers" of cheese are always so vicious about the style of music that you dont like.Leave it alone and behave like a music "lover" rather than a music "hater" and maybe things might be a little less tense.And whats with the nick name ? Are you insinuating anything there there ? I prefer to mix with vinyl but i find that the "skill factor" mixing with cd's is equally as challenging as vinyl.Please dont start this DJ "snobberry" with a vinyl vs Cd war - It's such a childish argument.
Q - Sun Oct 22 12:14:48 2000
Ok we are in serious countdown mode now 20 days to go !!!!!! 20 days to go !!!!!! 20 days to go !!!!!! 20 days to go !!!!!! 20 days to go !!!!!! 20 days to go !!!!!! 20 days to go !!!!!! 20 days to go !!!!!! 20 days to go !!!!!! 20 days to go !!!!!! 20 days to go !!!!!! 20 days to go !!!!!! 20 days to go !!!!!! 20 days to go !!!!!! 20 days to go !!!!!! 20 days to go !!!!!! 20 days to go !!!!!! 20 days to go !!!!!!
Sun Oct 22 15:24:52 2000
oooh sounds like someone's comin' down pretty hard
Panties (clean & sober) - Sun Oct 22 16:32:40 2000
Panties (clean & sober) - Pinkboard presents a world first and exclusive !!!!
Sun Oct 22 17:53:18 2000
he'll be discovering christianity next !
Chiclet - Sun Oct 22 22:52:47 2000
Sing Praise to the Panties Hallelujah ! For he is the kingdom and the power and the glory of ours now and foerver
Mon Oct 23 0:15:17 2000
Here we go into the teenage number countdown !!!! so there are 19 days to go 19 days to go 19 days to go 19 days to go 19 days to go 19 days to go 19 days to go 19 days to go 19 days to go 19 days to go 19 days to go 19 days to go 19 days to go 19 days to go 19 days to go 19 days to go 19 days to go weeeeeee wouldnt it be good to be 19 again !!
Mon Oct 23 0:33:05 2000
im not in love, so dont forget it, its just another silly phase im going thru. and just because, i called you up, dont get me wrong or think you've got it made. Im not in Love Its because.
I like to see you but then again, that doesnt mean you mean that much to me. so if i call you dont make a fuss, dont tell your friends about the two of us. Im not in love Its because.
I keep your picture Up on the wall. It hides a nasty stain thats hiding there. so dont you ask me to give it back. I know,you know it doesnt mean that much to me. I'm not in love oh-oh Just because.
Mon Oct 23 11:42:12 2000
Well ... call me the dumb blond queen, but I'm confused. Mind you, at least I know how to use capitals and punctuation :)
Mon Oct 23 12:34:32 2000
Olive? Please, if it were true, not THAT song ...
Mon Oct 23 14:07:50 2000
yes it is that song, remixed by barry harris Thunderpuss 2000
Shaerin Magoodies - Mon Oct 23 18:54:10 2000
barf
Chiclet - Mon Oct 23 19:18:11 2000
oh Shaerin, I still need to get that VIP bar pass from you.
Chiclet - Mon Oct 23 19:19:30 2000
18 was a very good year. It was a very good year cause i came out to mum , had sex with boys and took my 1st "e" . 18 was a very very good year ! Distant memories fading away ! ------ 18 days to go 18 days to go 18 days to go 18 days to go 18 days to go 18 days to go 18 days to go 18 days to go 18 days to go 18 days to go 18 days to go 18 days to go 18 days to go 18 days to go 18 days to go 18 days to go 18 days to go 18 days to go 18 days to go 18 days to go 18 days to go 18 days to go 18 days to go 18 days to go
Tue Oct 24 0:12:47 2000
He is going to be so let down!
sizzle sizzle sputter sputter zzzzzzzzzzzz pop! - Tue Oct 24 14:24:25 2000
Can't wait to hear Barry play his remix of Please Release Me by Engelbert Humperdink ...
Tue Oct 24 20:02:49 2000
17 was a very good year.It was a very good year cause i left school after the HSC & i loved my 1st boy.I discovered Oxford Street.17 was a very good year.More Distant memories ! 17 days to go 17 days to go 17 days to go 17 days to go 17 days to go 17 days to go 17 days to go 17 days to go 17 days to go 17 days to go 17 days to go 17 days to go 17 days to go 17 days to go 17 days to go 17 days to go 17 days to go 17 days to go 17 days to go 17 days to go 17 days to go 17 days to go 17 days to go 17 days to go 17 days to go 17 days to go 17 days to go 17 days to go 17 days to go 17 days to go 17 days to go
Wed Oct 25 0:20:30 2000
I'm sure 17 was a good year. Too bad it all went down hill from there.
Wed Oct 25 8:32:59 2000
LOL@ the last comment.
Wed Oct 25 12:11:50 2000
Chiclet, thanks but you must think i am someone i'm not. i really do wish i had all the vip passes, because i would melt them all down and make a nice necklace or head-dress to wear to sleaze. i think the vip bar should be closed down as it encourages seperatism and intollerance (very much a "we" and "them" scenario which we do not need at a party).
Shaerin - Wed Oct 25 18:32:15 2000
Shaerin - Wed Oct 25 18:32:15 2000 - the RHI VIP bar is a fab place to take drugs in a clean environment or a place where you dont have to queue for an hour and a half for a toilet that isnt half flooded out with poop floating out of the top !
YaY the VIP Bar ! - Wed Oct 25 19:54:02 2000
so , who got through the sleaze auditions???
Wed Oct 25 20:33:52 2000
pfffft ! the VIP Bar is stuffy, ugly & you gotta pay for your drinks ! VIP my ass.
El Panteez - Wed Oct 25 20:55:58 2000
But the toilets are convenient ...
EC - Wed Oct 25 21:30:54 2000
Well its obviuos isn't it? Pink at two in the R.H.I. Ricki Martin in the V.I.P. lounge only, sorry Queens. Personally I would rather have Insane Clown Possee or Anthrax but I can't get it all my way all the time can I?
The one who knows. - Thu Oct 26 0:34:53 2000
16 was a very good year.It was a very good year cause i had my sweet 16th ,, i rooted my last ever girl ,,and i sucked the school captains willy. 16 was a very good year ! I'm really racking my brain trying to remember these memories !! 16 days to go 16 days to go 16 days to go 16 days to go 16 days to go 16 days to go 16 days to go 16 days to go 16 days to go 16 days to go 16 days to go 16 days to go 16 days to go 16 days to go 16 days to go 16 days to go 16 days to go 16 days to go 16 days to go 16 days to go 16 days to go 16 days to go 16 days to go 16 days to go 16 days to go 16 days to go !!!!!!!!
Thu Oct 26 0:53:40 2000
The name was changed from the VIP Bar to the Guest Bar about 5 years ago. It is not full of VIPs. It has some of the special guests, it also has people who have worked to make the party happen - board, committees, staff, volunteers; and it has PCMs and a few hangers on.
Arti - Thu Oct 26 8:38:30 2000
hey, countdown queen, I think u've made a mistake. I either have a clinton definition of what sex is or you're just making this all up as you go along. 16 & 18 don't match up. Or are they just your different personalities?
Thu Oct 26 9:01:26 2000
Thu Oct 26 9:01:26 2000 - mmm - my 18 posting saying "i had sex with boys" meant I had multiple sexual partners and was a slut basically.My 16 posting saying i sucked the school captains willy was more of an "achievement" for me to get with the spunkiest boy at school.The definition of "sex" doesnt really come into it.
The Countdown queen - as at 10.35 there is 23,725 mins to go ! - Thu Oct 26 10:38:05 2000
In my group of friends "sex is said to have taken place only if direct physical contact takes place and one of the parties has reached orgasm." We had to invoke this ruling because of the lattitude some members were taking when they claimed they had scored, eg "I had sex with Leonardo Dicaprio" meant they had had a toss thinking about him.
BND - Thu Oct 26 10:59:39 2000
BND - that's the definition that priests use. If you're both touching each other etc etc etc (plus for the rest of us a few more etc etc etc's) and neither of you reach orgasm then you haven't had "sex". Now you know why they are constantly so grumpy!
Thu Oct 26 15:08:23 2000
Tina Cousins is performing. As for Olive...A definate NO!
In the Know. - Thu Oct 26 20:20:14 2000
Can I ask what on earth would make anyone think that Tina C is a suitable person for Sleaze? Tina C + Sleaze = non comprendo.
PaulD - Thu Oct 26 20:53:09 2000
Well she's a step closer to sleaze than tina arena was. I think the whole "sleaze" concept has been abandoned by the organisers. "sleaze" is now just a brand name to get people coming along. From what i've heard around the place people aren't quite as excited about this sleaze coming up as they have been with previous years.
Thu Oct 26 21:34:51 2000
The only good thing about the VIP bar is easy toilet access. And it helps shut out the noise they call music in the RHI.
TW (Yeah, we've all been there) - Thu Oct 26 22:00:15 2000
the VIP bar is always a good source of complimentry ciggerettes. Bob Downe always leaves his packet unattended .... *snatch!*
Chiclet (dunhill blue 20's) - Thu Oct 26 22:33:31 2000
Of course sleaze ball hasnt been good for many years.I havent dj'ed at sleaze since '98
Steve Carleeyyy - Thu Oct 26 23:05:20 2000
15 was a very good year,,it was a very good year cause the 90's had come,,kylie was hip,,i went to the Hordern and danced at a Bacchanalia party and saw bananarama play,,and i got it up the bum for the very first time (ouch)- and Not at the party mind you (just in case you wanna ask),,15 was a very good year!!! Oh the memories !! 15 days to go !!!@! 15 days to go !!!@! 15 days to go !!!@! 15 days to go !!!@! 15 days to go !!!@! 15 days to go !!!@! 15 days to go !!!@! 15 days to go !!!@! 15 days to go !!!@! 15 days to go !!!@! 15 days to go !!!@! 15 days to go !!!@! 15 days to go !!!@! 15 days to go !!!@! 15 days to go !!!@! 15 days to go !!!@!
Fri Oct 27 0:09:59 2000
apparently mardi gras have lost one of the 3 advertised live international acts as of yesterday arvo.....no one seems to know which one......and they have got some drag queen to replace the act.......anyone know anymore???
g - Fri Oct 27 0:56:41 2000

"HOw nice to be able to just come along to have a party...incredibly important to be in a crowd that is predominantly gay and lesbian " -Oct 21 14:35:51 2000

I hear what you are saying, and appreciate it. I don't think you will have any problems with Sleaze not being predominantly gay :-) And if straights like me want to come and join our gay friends, its up to us to accept / embrace / enjoy all that happens at the party. Like you I wish that gays & overtly gay behaviour was accepted everywhere. I know some people would rather no straights were at the party - but I'm hoping that the bulk of you will be happy to party with straights who are relaxed, accepting and there for the music, the atmosphere and to dance with their gay friends.
Hard 'n Banging - Fri Oct 27 9:40:24 2000

Nothing wrong with that...... but lots of the straights at these parties are not the same as you. They have been known to give funny/nasty looks and seem to wanna be there 'cos its cool.....not because they're accepting or love their gay friends (if they even have any). I have nothing against straights who smile, dance, talk, and generally have a good time with us all though.
Fri Oct 27 11:01:28 2000
14 days to go! 14 was a B A D year. I fell over and hit my head real hard. Left some permanent brain damage. Now I only know how to count backwards. 14 days to go! 14 days to go! 14 days to go! 14 days to go! 14 days to go! 14 days to go! 14 days to go! 14 days to go! 14 days to go! 14 days to go! 14 days to go! 14 days to go! 14 days to go! 14 days to go!14 days to go! 14 days to go! 14 days to go! 14 days to go! 14 days to go! 14 days to go! 14 days to go!
Sat Oct 28 0:40:24 2000
hehehehehehehhehehehe
Sat Oct 28 0:41:34 2000
OY ! OY ! Thats nots fair - I am the countboy boy !
Sat Oct 28 2:06:27 2000
14 was a very good year,,it was a very good year cause my folks went away and left me at home alone for the very first time ,, i had my mate over and we had sex on my folks bed ,, It was also the year that i first came in a guys mouth (and he swallowed) and the time i thought how gross ! But now ....only a memory !!! 14 was a very good year !!!! 14 days to go !! 14 days to go !! 14 days to go !! 14 days to go !! 14 days to go !! 14 days to go !! 14 days to go !! 14 days to go !! 14 days to go !! 14 days to go !! 14 days to go !! 14 days to go !! 14 days to go !! 14 days to go !! 14 days to go !! 14 days to go !!
Sat Oct 28 2:11:22 2000
no-one gives shit what you did mate
Sat Oct 28 7:32:16 2000
no-one gives shit what you did mate Sat Oct 28 7:32:16 2000 and who just in and is coming down off drugs - filthy cynical boring queen ! at least the countdown boy is being upbeat and constructive
get a life - no,go to hell ! - Sat Oct 28 8:36:15 2000
sorry that wasnt very constructive was it ? ok let me add this----have a nice day :)
Sat Oct 28 8:40:17 2000
Countdown - Is your theme for this Sleaze extremely young?
Panther - Sat Oct 28 9:05:02 2000
MG is really scrapping the bottom of the barrel for publicity lately.
Sat Oct 28 9:49:43 2000
14?? U started pretty young! I had to wait til I was 19!! No fair ;)
Sat Oct 28 12:15:50 2000
well he was a slut by 18 though darling. At least you didn't get a reputation till after you were legal.
funk e - Sat Oct 28 17:49:51 2000
Attn: Marketing Department SgLmG: Countdown "boy" is to marketing what chain letters are to communication. Thanks anyway, we can count. If the only thing you can think to use to promote the party is the number of days that remain, you should reconsider your effectiveness in your position. How about this, for instance as a factoid: Sleaze 2000 Degrees is currently on schedule to sell out a week before the party. This would be the first time in Sleaze history that the party had sold out. Anyone who doesn't have a ticket and is assuming that there will be plenty available after this week, should think again.
Sat Oct 28 22:15:26 2000
but is it getting sold out because there aren't as many tickets on sale? as opposed to more people than ever coming along? As much as I make fun of Countdown Queen, I think his countdowns are a reflection of how boring the build up to this sleaze is (through a combination of factors including it's later date this year).
Sat Oct 28 23:50:47 2000
13 days to go! 13 was also a B A D year. I was diagnosed with obsessive compulsive disorder, i would obsess about the most meaningless things and go on babbling about them to anyone who would listen over and over and over and over again, driving those around me completely insane, more than 10 years later i'm still in therapy, my doctor says i'm making progress! 13 days to go! 13 days to go! 13 days to go!13 days to go!13 days to go!13 days to go!13 days to go!13 days to go!13 days to go!13 days to go!13 days to go!13 days to go!13 days to go!13 days to go!13 days to go!13 days to go! 13 days to go!13 days to go!13 days to go!13 days to go!13 days to go!13 days to go!13 days to go!
Sun Oct 29 0:03:33 2000
hehehehehehehehehehehehe
Sun Oct 29 0:07:00 2000
Im the real countdown boy !========= 13 was a very good year ! It was avery good year cause it was 1988 , australia turned 200,and "The only way is up" by yazz rocked my world ,, It was the year i first blew and woke up in a pool of stuff that i didnt understand ,, i also got to feel up my best mate at school camp and i was shocked cause his dick was so huge - i thought all dicks were the same -what a nonsence ! 13 was a very good year !!! 13 days to go 13 days to go 13 days to go 13 days to go 13 days to go 13 days to go 13 days to go 13 days to go 13 days to go 13 days to go 13 days to go 13 days to go 13 days to go 13 days to go 13 days to go
Sun Oct 29 5:20:29 2000
you've gotta be quicker than that honey if you want to be countdown queen.
5 hrs late! - Sun Oct 29 10:44:59 2000
Sat Oct 28 22:15:26 2000 - Sleaze has sold out, just not for the last 5 or so years. I definitely missed out on a ticket to 1991 or 1992. (Can anyone remember the last time it was sold out?)

I doubt that SGLMG is using the countdown to promote Sleaze. In fact I find the continued assumption that anyone who expresses excitement about any SGLMG event is part of SGLMG quite offensive. Why are people not allowed to get excited about things and express their excitement?
Panther - Sun Oct 29 12:08:57 2000

i think the countdown as a publicity stunt by mg comments were meant to be taken as jokes.
Sun Oct 29 12:35:21 2000
I would like to think that the comment of the countdown as a SGLMG publicity stunt was a joke, but somehow I think the comment was meant seriously. For many on this discussion board, if anyone says anyhting even remotely positive about SGLMG then they are assumed to be a SGLMG board member or employee. Personnaly I think SGLMG to a great job, and not just with the dance parties. Yes, I am a SGLMG member; but I have nothing to do with the board, am not a SGLMG employee, and have no interest in the organisation other than as a normal run-of-the-mill member.
Someone who thinks SGLMG do a great job - Sun Oct 29 15:30:46 2000
I can just see Countdown Boy poised over his PC at 23:59 tonight, determined to get his posting on the wall first.
Sun Oct 29 17:37:55 2000
hehehehehehe
Sun Oct 29 19:58:41 2000
Oh no ... countdown boy has slept in!
Mon Oct 30 12:48:48 2000
Silly countdown boy..... is he gonna be wearing an outfit with numbers on it to Sleaze?? That way we can all spot him and give him a slap across the face!! Nah just kidding...... we'll give you a hug for teaching us how to count backwards.
Mon Oct 30 14:36:16 2000
maybe 12 was such a bad year he's blocked it all out!
hehehehehe - Mon Oct 30 16:27:03 2000
Maybe he'll start counting down inches.
Mon Oct 30 19:10:43 2000
12 was a very good year ! It was a very good year cause i finally realised that I was different.Boys looked hunky and girls were just girls ,, i had a crush on Jason Donovan and I didnt fit in. 12 was a pretty fair year in 1987. 12 days to go 12 days to go 12 days to go 12 days to go 12 days to go 12 days to go 12 days to go 12 days to go 12 days to go 12 days to go 12 days to go 12 days to go 12 days to go 12 days to go 12 days to go 12 days to go 12 days to go 12 days to go 12 days to go 12 days to go 12 days to go 12 days to go 12 days to go 12 days to go 12 days to go 12 days to go 12 days to go 12 days to go 12 days to go 12 days to go
sorry it was late - a trip to arq on sung home at 10am didnt helday night and arrivinp matters - Mon Oct 30 22:42:08 2000
let me reword that jibberish - a trip to arq on sunday night and not arriving home till 10am didnt help matters !
Mon Oct 30 22:45:31 2000
countdown boy likes Arq. enough said.
El Panteez - Mon Oct 30 23:03:11 2000
leave countdown boy alone .. he is the most entertaining person on here. It's a shame that the confessionals only started for your late teens countdown boy. Started so young and a Slut by 18..what are you now? Define yourself now.ps..i'm not looking for a date
fan - Mon Oct 30 23:36:56 2000
even though i am a little older than countdown boy, the experiences he has had through the years seem to be very similar to the ones i had at the same age. very spooky
Shaerin - Mon Oct 30 23:37:39 2000
11 was a very good year ! It was a very good year cause i was entrusted to be the chemistry lab assistant at school - i had a key and as such ended up playing 11yo boys games with a few of my school buddies - "you show me yours and i'll show you mine" ,, also a good year cause i thoiught Paul Lekakis who had recorded the same song in my 11th year "boom boom lets go back to my room" - well i thought he was a major spunk - but i wasnt sure why.11 was a very good year. 11 days to go 11 days to go 11 days to go 11 days to go 11 days to go 11 days to go 11 days to go 11 days to go 11 days to go 11 days to go 11 days to go 11 days to go 11 days to go 11 days to go 11 days to go 11 days to go 11 days to go 11 days to go 11 days to go 11 days to go 11 days to go 11 days to go 11 days to go 11 days to go 11 days to go 11 days to go 11 days to go 11 days to go 11 days to go 11 days to go 11 days to go 11 days to go 11 days to go 11 days to go
Tue Oct 31 0:28:23 2000
Isn't Paul Lekakis dead now?
Party pooper - Tue Oct 31 6:42:50 2000
looser count down boy, contradict your self.......11yrs playing with boys, but you realised at 12yrs you wanted to play with boy, I am going to find you and bich slap you at Sleaze.....looser.
I hate you count down boy - Tue Oct 31 7:26:07 2000
this will be your posting for your 25th year count down boy..... 2000 was a very bad year, I acted like a f*ucking idiot looser, had nothing else to get excited bout except sleaze because I am a fat arse looser, and i got bashed in the dome toilets because I would not let a big fat leather queen piss on me
Tue Oct 31 7:28:32 2000
fan - Mon Oct 30 23:36:56 2000 - "he is the most entertaining person on here." I think that says more about the excitement sleaze is generating than it says about countdown queen.
Tue Oct 31 7:51:01 2000
Sleaze recovery. . . lounge@midnightshift open from 9am no cover charge to get in and Alex Taylor playing till 1.
CUthere - Tue Oct 31 9:58:48 2000
The very first posting

Sleaze Ball 2OOO.....119 days to go

Sat Jul 15 18:05:11 2000
F*ck i'm gonna miss him N O T - Tue Oct 31 12:51:47 2000

I keep hoping a scientist will one day conduct some res