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The use or supply of recreational drugs is illegal. This means that the government can, and will, take whatever measures it deems necessary. Yes, the sniffer dogs are still there. The illegal drug Gamma Hydroxy Butyrate, GHB, GBH, G, etc is known to be very dose sensitive. There is a very narrow margin between a desired dose and a potential overdose. Also the use of other drugs, including alcohol, increases the likelihood of an overdose. So far a number of members of the party community have been exhorting us not to use this drug. It is endangering our parties and night clubs. This is only having limited effectiveness. People are still using the drug and still "dropping" at our parties. It is a serious problem, but many people do not yet recognise it as serious. It is time to not only stop using this drug, but further to convince your friends that they should stop using GHB also. We must act now to protect what we have. Only by working together can we sort this out. On a brighter note (who shone that spotlight in my eye?) thankyou to all the people who are posting happy and constructive comments on this graffiti wall. The tone of the wall is much more pleasant.

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ITS ALWAYS ME !!! YAY !!
Me me Me me :o) - Sat 31 Jan 2004 11:52:54

Whatever is going on for these people that leads them to a place where they have no control, I hope they have people around them who care enough to let them know what they are doing to themselves and the risk they put our parties at.

True friends will tell their mates when they are out of control or in danger of hurting themselves or others. From time to time we all need someone to give us a wake up call so we can get back on track. I do not want to be on the dancefloor having a great time with my friends to have someone drop and possibly die beside me. Let's look after each other ... for all our sakes!
GD - Sat 31 Jan 2004 12:04:24

Here Here !!
Josh - Sat 31 Jan 2004 12:48:34

No wonder they get sucked onto the floor, out of the club, out of money and if lucky, into the ICU.
Rx - Sat 31 Jan 2004 16:11:07

I just read that a Guy Sebastian song got played at the last queer nation.

and they claim that to be sydneys premier gay night out ? ooh-wah
Queen Ration - Sat 31 Jan 2004 18:28:02

I am starting to have an issue with the lack of good looking gay guys in this town. The majority of my friends feel the same. Is this just my imagination? I'm talking about REALLY cute boys (not just the scary ones you see on Gaydar who think they are cute)... but the young, truly sexy boys. Quite often now we will go out and spend time at the various bars and clubs on Oxford (Stonewall, Shift, Arq) and out of the hundreds of guys that we pass we do not even see one truly spunky boy. In fact most are pretty average (often below). It is like some sort of phenomenon. Yet almost every time we go into a str8 bar we see loads of gorgeous boys. So my question is what is it with the Sydney gay community? Don't get me wrong, I know there ARE good looking boys out there... but they just seem to be very few and far between. Is it a genetics thing with gay guys? Is it just a Sydney thing? Are they all in hiding? Or are they all going out to other bars?

Interested to hear any thoughts you may have. I don't want to hear from anyone preaching about how important 'personality' is however. That's a great asset to have too but I'm not talking about that right now. At this point in time, I am a young attractive guy looking for other guys who are the same but finding there just aren't that many out there...
Johnny - Sat 31 Jan 2004 21:18:01

honey, that was a month ago. let it go
- Sat 31 Jan 2004 21:37:56

If you want to see some attractive cute boys around, stop looking at yourself in the mirror.
jeffk - Sat 31 Jan 2004 23:45:10

My theory is simple.

All the so called beautiful guys are already attached with each other in relationships and these couples rarely do the gay circuit except for big events like Mardi gras party. So expect to see them all out on March 6, but remember they are attached so don't touch !!

And yes I do find your comments superficial and disgraceful to boot !!!
Aiden - Sat 31 Jan 2004 23:54:49

"In reality, it is probably why we haven't had a club/dance party death yet."

Sorry Mikey, You havent kept up with the times have you ? A guy aged about 19 or 20 recently (about 4 months ago) died after being helped out of one of "our" clubs. So we are definitely stained with a black mark.

Sorry to correct you but this point needed to be made.
Aiden - Sun 1 Feb 2004 07:17:06

Serioulsy now, are you for real?
incredibly good looking guy - Sun 1 Feb 2004 08:06:51

hahahah too funny
- Sun 1 Feb 2004 10:57:07

"What is essential is invisible to the eye."
- Sun 1 Feb 2004 12:48:24

yawn.
- Sun 1 Feb 2004 13:01:48

Pretty much, that's right. If you think that there's a strange dichotomy in there - about as wide as the Grand Canyon - you're probably not that wide of the mark :)
- Sun 1 Feb 2004 13:51:19

WE are not in denial and nor are we hypocritical; we are merely a tolerant, understanding society trying to manage a problem that others think can be eradicated or hidden.

People take party drugs mainly because they are fun. Some drugs are safer than others but the law doesn't really discriminate, unlike individuals.

WITH RESPECT, your observation is really not worthy of further discussion.
do as i say, not as I do - Sun 1 Feb 2004 14:50:49

Totally agreed.
- Sun 1 Feb 2004 14:51:14

I TOTALLY agree with the comment that those signs say they dont tolerate g, leaving you to assume everything else is fine.
Matt_M - Sun 1 Feb 2004 15:54:49

All drugs have the potential to be dangerous. It all comes down to how they're individually handled. GHB certainly has the potential for a more serious outcome than most - and in a culture where most people are poly-drug users, that already significant risk is heightened - but I'm concerned that we're not just seen to be identifying one drug as "the bad one" here. GHB is a problem but it's use can't be separated out from the overall culture of drugs and partying in which it's consumed. There's a real risk of going 'good drug/bad drug' and missing the point about everything else. I agree with the American guy who posted earlier: when everyone is off their face on something other than GHB, warnings about the singular evil of GHB do look a bit ironic. Gay Sydney partying is undeniably drug-saturated. Most people seem to be able to negotiate it without major problems, others don't. I know the GHB campaign is well-intentioned - we do have a real problem with it. But let's not lose sight of the wider context. Avoiding GHB does not and will not guarantee your safety.
- Sun 1 Feb 2004 17:08:01

: )
- Mon 2 Feb 2004 19:49:56

After i finish playing at toybox I will be at The Midnightshiftclub ...
with DJ's Neal Crawford and Ruby....Shame i wont see you there!

The Shift is defiantly the place to be.....having two Toybox DJ's play after the party knowing what it's all about.
Ryan Murphy - Tue 3 Feb 2004 10:08:05

I like consistency and the Shift constantly provides this... It's a happy, comfortable GAY enviroment....
Go to the Shift...100% GAY friendly!! - Tue 3 Feb 2004 11:00:18

Please explain
- Tue 3 Feb 2004 12:36:47

Alex Taylor, Junior B & Mike Kelly will all be guest DJing at SMOOCH at East Village over the next few weeks. The Rooftop Bar is also offering $5 Coronas & $5 Vodkas.

Sunday 7th March
Mardis Gras Recovery Midday - 10pm
Mike Kelly * Junior B * Scott Pullen * Renae * Peter Fam
Come up for a breath of fresh air.

SUNDAYS @ East Village Rooftop (234 Palmer St, Darlinghurst)
- Tue 3 Feb 2004 12:49:11

Oh dear... just checked the wall out and thought i might have stumbled across www.godhatesdrugs.com instead of out harm minimisation wall!

What's happened Panther? It's a very preachy message!
Growl - Tue 3 Feb 2004 13:17:14

DJ sets of club icons Sveta and Gemma & Seymour Butz will provide some of the soundtrack for a night of sexy dance chemistry. And the mesmerising visuals by Eskatonia are going to push the barriers for those who are lucky enough to get their hands on a ticket.

Saturday, 28 February 2004
Lava Bar @ the Burdekin Hotel (2 Oxford Street)
Pre-purchased tickets are $20 ($15 if you're a member of the Sydney Bisexual Network) and can be booked by sending an email to biversity@bi.org.au. Once paid for, these will be the only guarantee that your name is on the door.
$25 will get you through the door on the night. If there's any tickets left, that is.

More details @ www.bi.org.au/biversity - check regularly as we're updating with more about the line-up and performances from time to time.
Bi Babe - Tue 3 Feb 2004 14:46:19

On a couple of occasions in the last 6 months I have decided after work on a drunken whim to go to Greenwood Tavern in North Sydney with workmates on a Thursday (uni night), and have been completely gobsmacked by the sheer number of absolutely stunning straight boys there. And not just good-looking guys, but well dressed and well-groomed too; a very different looking crowd from the one there when I had just left school earlier this decade. I remember commenting to my friends that I wished gay venues had this kind of "talent".

That said, on the infrequent occasions that I am able to get down to the sshift on a friday I am usually quite impressed there too, and I think its a bit of a fallacy to say that there are no gorgeous boys on the gay scene.
- Tue 3 Feb 2004 15:08:35

The expectations of straight women have increased and the straight men must be responding. "Queer eye for the straight guy" must have made quite an impact
- Tue 3 Feb 2004 16:48:27

Chuck in "big dick" and "fabulous personality" and it sounds like heaven to me darl! :)
- Tue 3 Feb 2004 17:37:47

Support for both. I do have a slight bias for The Shift because that is where i play and their support of my work is much appreciated. 1st to publicly declare my support for our last gay owned and run Nightclub. Sure there is plenty of pubs (well a few) but this is “home base” we are talking about.

Besides Neal Crawford is enough to draw anyone to a club
Ryan Murphy - Tue 3 Feb 2004 17:39:46

To keep our venue gay! Sometimes they got it wrong but generally it stopped packs of feral gay boy chasing nymphs annoying you lot.
Very diplomatic Ryan - Wed 4 Feb 2004 12:50:26

Wasn't that a bore? I always had to remember to leave the peep-toed stellies in the wardrobe when going out and opt for my Manolo Blanik pumps instead. But at least the policy meant people were spared the hideous sight of chipped toenail polish sported by so many shameless hussies.
Sally Tomato - Wed 4 Feb 2004 12:56:18

You called ?
Josh - Wed 4 Feb 2004 13:00:08

Now that you're out, you just have to pop into town and try the new JPG tinted moisturiser- stunning, fabulous and all those other adjectives that are escaping me at the moment.

kisses
Ms Golightly - Wed 4 Feb 2004 16:38:12

Hey Australia as a country got it wrong in the past; large companies get it wrong every day ....getting it wrong is part of Australian culture. Whats more important is getting it right. The Shift seems to be doing a half decent job of it at the moment and should be encouraged. Sure put it down to competition; honestly competition is what most “niche” industries need. I would agree that by comparison most gay pubs/clubs just don’t rack up compared to straight venues. The Shift are doing a good job of providing a reasonably presentable place of with good entertainment. That’s what it’s all about.

With respect to being “too young”….

I will however congratulate the sales people at the channel counter my alpha hydroxy face peels are working….. but I am sorry to say I have watched as The Aubrey, The Flinders, Annie’s Bar, Caesars, The Burdekin, The Beresford have all closed around me. I have worked in a few of those pubs too (The Flinders when I was 17 {oops!)). The great times I had there are rarely reproduced today…. The Management at the shift are all about preserving the “good times” for the boys…. and the girls.

Maybe it’s a sign that gay people are now more accepted in other venues and they choose to go there instead?

Oh well……let you decide

and to Sally Tomato - Love your work!
Ryan Murphy - Wed 4 Feb 2004 17:47:09

#1: "channel" dont make any type of product that contains alpha hydroxy acid and/or has skin peeling properties.
#2: it's spelt "Chanel"

I dont mind if you continue to incorrectly spell venue names, but dont go messing with Coco's good name or I'll whack you over the head with Karl Lagerfelds fan
Mr Panties - Wed 4 Feb 2004 20:50:24

Congrats also must go to Luke Leal (can you hear me say Legend?!), Jake Kilby, Justin Scott and others selected.
Craigy - Wed 4 Feb 2004 22:12:58

I say that many poofs & dykes are over the crap music (trance 24/7) & poor quality alcohol in gay venues & have happily started going to (so called) straight bars/clubs
- Wed 4 Feb 2004 22:51:27

Thanks for your message, sweetie, and it is lovely to be back. Actually I was in isolation of sorts - to be precise an old friend's property near Mildura (wow, the gay scene really swings there baby...) I spent a couple of weeks recuperating from severe cosmetics abuse during the festive season, and in deep but stressful meditation about what on EARTH to wear to MG. I still can't decide - can you?? I might pop down to Palms on the w/end to pick up some fashion tips for the retro space.

Ooodles to you.

Oh, and fabulous Mr Ryan Murphy, I love YOUR work too, and will be worshipping at your shrine at the party.
Sally Tomato - Thu 5 Feb 2004 12:18:52

see what I mean ?
typsy mcstagger - Thu 5 Feb 2004 13:56:26

I once worked in a bar where we watered down the vodka.
Slury McTongue - Thu 5 Feb 2004 15:50:55

#1 I was phonetically spelling after my acid peel and could not pronounce the word correctly.
#2 I can think of a #2 so see #1.
#3 You must be unfamiliar with Chanel’s new “Industrials” range for men.

Now will someone please hand me some poor quality alcohol…

and Slury McTongue - Thu 5 Feb 2004 15:50:55 better make it a double
Ryan Murphy - Thu 5 Feb 2004 16:30:15

Yes Slury. Like a fool, I bought them. But I was never dumb enough to buy a $15 cocktail......
A.A. McTwelvestep - Thu 5 Feb 2004 18:24:55

Thanks Craigy... Looking forward to having a great night spinning many tracks that we have all grown to love!
Justin Scott - Fri 6 Feb 2004 00:44:15

http://www.smh.com.au/articles/2004/02/05/1075853988027.html
GiT - Fri 6 Feb 2004 08:37:35

I knocked over a drink and offered to replace the Red-Bull and Vodka [or something like that] - anyway, it was a promo and the aadvertyised cost was $7.50. I only drink beer so what did I know? The bartender charged me $15. I paid. The bartender was shortly dismissed.

Now, If I could be reimbursed for all the times I have been conned, scammed and hustled then I would shout everyone here a drink of their choice.
con me again, I dare you - Fri 6 Feb 2004 09:50:27

Yes Slury. Like a fool, I bought them. But I was never dumb enough to buy a $15 cocktail......
A.A. McTwelvestep - Thu 5 Feb 2004 18:24:55

....I must inform you that you were infact consuming cleaning solution from the pipes that weren't washed through thoroughly......this in fact, is far stronger than the alcohol ! Might explain the nasty headache in the morning !
McTongue (Josh) - Fri 6 Feb 2004 09:54:15

Thats right in an ATLAS
gay aussie talent at last for our Mardi Gras - Fri 6 Feb 2004 10:56:32

Well done Panther.
- Fri 6 Feb 2004 12:27:02

Then I'm outa here.
- Fri 6 Feb 2004 19:44:26

couldn't imagine going indoor on a beautiful day like today (yes i know it is tomorrow) to get blasted by L&S and the worst of trance music

i'm going to the beach.... always hot sweaty men there btw
- Sat 7 Feb 2004 14:19:52

True. But then - by gay definition - no-one with a really big dick is ugly and, frankly, if someone has a really big dick - what's "personality?"
- Sat 7 Feb 2004 18:52:04

Does anyone have more information on this please? The ad in SX did not give a DJ line-up, although one can only hope that the DJ's will be playing uplifting music if the night is called "UP"....
- Mon 9 Feb 2004 11:58:00

Can somebody please tell me if there is a website to view club/venue photos....
Thanks!! - Mon 9 Feb 2004 15:12:22

There are no changes to the DJ line up particulary with Paul Goodyear in the Arena who still has a lengthy period of time remaining on his contract with them.

The purpose of the add apparently is to try to alert people to the existance of ARQ on Saturday nights as the numbers attending there on Saturdays has declined by on average 15-20%. Its ARQ's way of trying to combat the growing popularity of the Shift on Saturdays.

However, its my opinion the poster add for ARQ using that guy with the word "UP" blocking his penis is totally gross. And as for the guy himself all I can say is what a dog ! Its one of the the ugliest posters for the promotion of a club theme night I have ever seen. If anything it would put me off going rather than encourage me to go.
Back to the Shift for me - Mon 9 Feb 2004 15:16:31

How long is "a lengthy period of time"? I'm sure there are quite a few people reading this board who'd be interested to know. As for the poster, I couldn't care less what it looks like, so long as the music is good.
- Mon 9 Feb 2004 17:43:13

It would be inappropriate (and possibly a moderator wouldnt publish it) to release that info on this page but lets just say Paul is entrenched for at least the rest of 2004 and beyond.
Back to the Shift for me - Mon 9 Feb 2004 19:06:02
Pinkboard is unable to verify this statement.

i did find it rather amusing that somebody was credited as being a "pubic stylist" in that ad.
Ms Golightly always reads the fine print! - Mon 9 Feb 2004 19:06:36

Indulgence at the Shift (leather) - extended line-up and event
Smooch at East Village (funky rooftop house party)
For The Boys at Manacle (sexy sandi hotrod)
and the Burdekin has something on for the girls (I won't offend the promoters by getting the name mixed up - help please?)

hope that helps
- Mon 9 Feb 2004 23:07:42

Thank you so much for making a dream come true. xx
Ryan Murphy - Tue 10 Feb 2004 00:40:01

Where is the BUZZ team when you need them?

Best music I have ever heard at a party was Buzz's Blue Hawaii! C'mon Tim, please do another one. Baby Bear and Doug James were unsurpassable
Buzz fan - Tue 10 Feb 2004 02:41:20

The Shift club afterwards was great as usual!! Neal played a great set and Ruby was fantastic as always.

Arq was great too.. we got there around 3:30am when Luke Leal was playing great trance. See the set at http://users.tpg.com.au/adslko0l/Toybox%20Recovery%208th%20Feb%2004.htm

Andy said the next Toybox party is on April 25th.. it's a long weekend and I'm sure Queer Nation will be on too so it should be interesting to see where people go!
Craigy - Tue 10 Feb 2004 12:53:17

I hear Smooch @ East Village will be running from 12 midday with my favourite DJ, Mike Kelly, in the line-up. Fresh air, $5 Coronas & Mr. Kelly...I'm there!
- Tue 10 Feb 2004 13:59:41

The official word on Inquisition is "still in negotiation with the venue. As soon as contracts have been signed, then date will be confirmed."

I'll stick the date on the SLPA website as soon as I know.
Evil Twin - Tue 10 Feb 2004 15:59:48

* The new Saturday night will feature regular Special Guest DJ's starting this Saturday
* Stephen Allkins will be playing upstairs with Paul Goodyear
* Kate Monroe will be the guest downstairs playing with Neal Crawford & Peter Farris

There will be more changes coming in the next few weeks.

It sounds interesting anyways!
Craigy - Tue 10 Feb 2004 17:25:25
Pinkboard is unable to verify this statement.

So what does that mean? Was it too cheesy? Too hard? Too vocal? Too instrumental? Too RUBY???
- Tue 10 Feb 2004 17:49:50

apart from hard i think all the other adjectives are pretty spot on ... and yes ruby (a noun) becomes an adjective in this person's sentence

from all reports, it was piercing, vocal, string-based trance with nothing close to hard in sight and more breakdowns than the sydney trains

but, couldn't hear enough glowing reports about the foyer djs, even though i heard kate at odyssey later that night and totally disagreed about her playing well (but nice tunes kate if you're reading, and slack to be cut given your hectic schedule that w/e)... alex, later at yu was excellent!!!
- Wed 11 Feb 2004 01:09:34

$5.00 is nothing if it's good people, good music.. Stop being a tight arse!!

I bet though you would outlay all the queer nation, ruby fees, because it's the play to be scene.

A small fee and some nice drinks with a great group of friends sounds like a great time to me.

Thanx SMOOCH!!
Break the mold.. Try new venues!! - Wed 11 Feb 2004 11:33:30

I'm with break the mold on this one. If you can't afford $5 to hear some quality music, enjoy $5 drinks all night, take in sweeping views of the city & meet some funky people, then you're probably in the wrong place.

Can't wait to hear Alex Taylor there this Sunday.
Off The Strip - Wed 11 Feb 2004 12:04:23

agree with the other poster, $5 to get in? That is peanuts, especially if you get cheap drinks. Most parties cost at least ten, some more like 30-80 bucks and this has been a party both times i was there.

agree with the crowd and music being great... and as for the venue being 'the pub', it is the rooftop level, and separate from the pub part... perhaps a small distinction but having been into the space i fail to see how it is any different from most groovy bars, well apart from having a view, the summer sun and fresh air.

i am going down this week as it is scott pullen and renae's birthdays, so i think it will be very busy, so see you there jamie
fresh air freak - Wed 11 Feb 2004 13:07:59

No.
Its all over Red Rover - Wed 11 Feb 2004 13:29:19

Perhaps the whingers were the 4 people who got caught literally pouring G into glasses from a larger bottle in the middle of the party and asked to leave? Shame girls, shame.
- Wed 11 Feb 2004 14:51:23

btw - can someone confirm that those girls recoveries mentioned above are the right names?

Shagadelic Grrls Mardi Gras Recovery @ Burdekin, 2 Oxford St Darlo $20
Gurlesque Farty Bra Recovery @ Imperial, ERskineville
- Wed 11 Feb 2004 15:18:03

= = = = = = = = = =

And after all that criticising you remained anonymous.
.
Dan Murphy - Wed 11 Feb 2004 15:49:09

Well, I hope so. I think that Inquisition had a bit of a horror year in 2003 - not helped by that unusual girl from the committee who got on Pinkboard and shouted at everyone for daring to question her. Her spelling was atrocious.
It's been a wonderful tribal event in the past, let's hope that SLPA recreate that energy again this year.
- Wed 11 Feb 2004 16:03:18

If this is the case and ICE is no more, can someone please very belatedly update the website??
- Wed 11 Feb 2004 16:19:53

If its all over then whats the point of updating a website to state that fact ?

I can site many instances of web sites being not updated years after the most recent developement in regards to its business -

eg.

I know of an Italian Record company that hasnt released a new single or album since 1999 yet their web site is still functional and giving out 1999 information as "current news". They even have a "contact us" email address that is still active as I recently sent an email to them only to get no reply nor a bounced undeliverable reply !

eg2.

I know of a UK based remix team that hasnt done any remixing work since 1999 and yet his website,discography and news page are all still active.

When people go out of business one of the last things on their minds are to close down the web site. Why bother - its all too hard sometimes.
- Wed 11 Feb 2004 16:52:51

Josh, Josh, Josh, Josh, Josh, josh, Josh...puke!
Am I wrong in assuming that you have a thing for DJ Josh?
Have listened to Josh on a few occasions and personally can't see what you’re getting all moist about.

‘especially with Josh making it so intimate by playing down on the stage (I wish more DJ’s would do that!)’

Do you really think she is responsible for putting herself there? Hello!

‘but I reckon if you’re going to have a DJ of the calibre of Josh playing, she should be backed up with proper lighting for the whole set, not just the last couple of hours – especially at an after-party.’

Have you any idea how ridiculous that sounds. Stick to whatever it is you do during the day because a Music/Dj/Club or lighting critic you are not.
The fact that The Shift was packed by 9pm and going off and Arq was lucky to have had 10 people there including you and your group, I think is a reflection on what we want. And there wasn’t a Dj Josh in sight.
But in saying that, thank you Arq for the free ride from The Metro to Flinders Street, it made walking to The Shift all down hill. When I heard it was an Arq shuttle I was half expecting to have to pay $20 for the ride..
Get a room! - Wed 11 Feb 2004 17:37:39
This message is unnecessarily abusive.

Panther's msg at the top

Why is it that ppl that have nothing positive to say insist on shouting it out anyway? I'd much rather hear about the elements that made you comment that The Shift was packed by 9pm and going off , like which dj's were playing, what sort of music, what the lighting was like, what sort of crowd, what else made it work for you?
Hump Day or Dump Day? - Wed 11 Feb 2004 18:48:56

btw - I am not so sure that the people complaining about the music at Toybox were the ones who were carrying a whole bottle of G... do you think someone that out of it on a pacifying sex drug would really be complaining??

re-inquisition, we all know it sucked last year but this one is supposed to be a make up effort, tribal and all
- Wed 11 Feb 2004 19:04:28

Most of your post, in my opinion, was kaka....but the last paragraph cracked me up - you redeemed yourself !
Josh - not the DJ - Wed 11 Feb 2004 19:57:36

Sorry if you’re having a bad Wednesday dear, but there’s no need to be quite so nasty. That’s not nice.
And if you’ve got a different opinion to mine, that’s OK. Neither yours or mine is any more or less valid than the next person’s.
I happen to enjoy reading other people’s comments about the parties and events we go to (yes, even when I don’t agree with those comments) and I presume other people like reading about them too.
OK, I may be guilty of being a little over-enthusiastic sometimes. But that’s not really worth getting a wedgie about, is it?
So, get a room, if you’ve got a thoughtful or intelligent comment to make, let’s hear it. I’m genuinely interested in your opinions about DJ’s/Clubbing/Parties/Lighting/Music, or whatever.
But please don’t just slag off from the shadows of anonymity. That’s cheap. And very unattractive.
jeffgg - Wed 11 Feb 2004 20:02:00

Isn't the next one April 25th?
- Thu 12 Feb 2004 14:09:47

I dont get how people expect the music to be pumping and banging even though the place only has about 10 - 20 people in there. The times Ive walked into a nightclub and been one of the 1st people there only to hear the DJ banging away and the lights going madly on and off to me (in my opinion) is a bit of a turn off.

Its all about being subtle and working your way into it as the crowd gets larger and larger. Well thats how I (and obviously the talented Mr Wright) sees it anyway.
Stephen B - Thu 12 Feb 2004 17:08:12

Not at all. Sundays have been amazing lately. (i think even bigger than saturday - but who knows...?) The problem with last Sunday is that we opened at 8pm for the Toybox recovery, I just dont think it was promoted...? We normally open at 11pm and by 1am we are full and going off... Last sunday we were busy by midnight, unfortunately by this time there was a handful of people who had been there for 4 hrs.... basically with no major lightshow or lasers..... I wasnt about to ruin the rest of night (which went till 6.45am) for the sake of 30ppl by starting what I normally do later in the evening early. If the room was busy and going off at 8pm no worries... Its all about timing..
Brad W - Thu 12 Feb 2004 18:50:07

~Wed 11 Feb 2004 12:04:35, 'ICE xxxxxx' is a bad choice of name these days when associated with this scene. Nobody would put on a G party [well, not open to the public, anyway]. If they did, there would be ten ambulances parked outside, just in case :}

re.Toybox, I have yet to go [excellent promo artwork, i must say] though the thought of roasting under extreme UV rays is not as safe as basking in the light of the lasers [ozone hole, remember?] but trance in the afternoon? Drop that funk on me at that timeslot and save trance for late. But then that's me.

~Dan Murphy, I notice that you are blessed with a sharp wit, nice asset..

~Thu 12 Feb 2004 01:01:49, yeah and we JUST GO OUT! Just a nightclub? on a party discussion board? bizarre. Re. Arq's UP ad- it is very much an 'in yer face' job. Imagine seeing that in 3D..

~Brad W, you need never explain. Thank god the lasers don't have minds of their own

~"So its true, ... that place has died in the Arq?" GREAT!
I am going to see tonight. I like having the place to myself anyway. I am hoping Alex will be on playing what he plays best, funk with an egde. If not then I can always have a beer.
deep cover - Thu 12 Feb 2004 19:31:56

You're probably right - I really wasn't sure when the next one is.
Josh - Thu 12 Feb 2004 21:18:31

More info available at http://www.bigqueernation.com
Craigy - Thu 12 Feb 2004 23:30:55

If you notice you'll realize ALOT of the younger twink brigade religiously attend QN parties and not necessarily go to the big main event purely based on the fact their budgets cant afford the bigger party ticket prices.

I'm NOT convinced that everybody will support the BIG QN concept because of the fact that the ticket price is going to be around the $100 mark and that flies in the face of the main reason why Little QN's are successful.

Its going to be a HUGE effort for Big Queer Nation to fill up the Hordern at about a $100 a ticket in the depths of winter.

Personally I think its beyond them.
sceptic - Fri 13 Feb 2004 09:07:01

I remember also trying to picture it and I also thought that the event wasn't easily relocatable. Looks like i'm wrong, thankfully...

This is good news. What is the capacity of the venue(s)?
One big Queer Nation? sounds huge. I'm there - Fri 13 Feb 2004 10:53:49

U can bet people alot of people wont support this event purely based on the price of that ticket.
sceptic - Fri 13 Feb 2004 12:39:34

Does anyone remember the Black Parties, RAT & FUN at the Hordern?

Bring on the comraderie...

AS Yoko Ono-Lennon said at the Grammy's:

"If John was here, he'd say "Come Together", "Give Peace a Chance" & "All You Need is Love".

See you @ BQN!
- Fri 13 Feb 2004 12:59:57

What DJ's are playing? Hopefully the current set and a few others..

Anyways it's nice to see ACON getting involved and holding another event. They have probably gone for the best option with staging an event in conjunction with another party.. ie Home. I wonder how much of the profits will flow to ACON?
Craigy - Fri 13 Feb 2004 13:31:53

regular QN's are $45 + $3 booking fee.
- Fri 13 Feb 2004 14:03:34

Hoorah !! We have a nit picker in the house *rolls eyes*
- Fri 13 Feb 2004 14:06:41

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Spunky Optus queens!!!! Now truly give it a rest.

North Sysdney Str8 Boys Lover
- Fri 13 Feb 2004 21:46:50

Im sure you'll think twice about paying $100,australia dollars for a party.
Americans come here and cant believe our ticket price.
trolley dolly - Sat 14 Feb 2004 02:20:23

completely right! My partner and I were in New York last June for NY gay pride. We went to 2 recoveries after the pier party. The first was at Soundfactory (the nightclub) and had a DJ playing that I had never heard of... tix price was $80usd, at the time the exchange rate meant that we paid $120 AU for the tix... We then went to the Roxy to see Junior Vasquez where we were on the guest list, however when we arrived (8am) we were told that the guest list had shut at 7am. We did the whole we are from Australia thing and we are on the guest list thing... the guy acknowledged that we were on the guest list and read our names but then again said that the list shut at 7am. Entry was now $90 US each..... a bit of smooth talking got us a two for one deal, however $90 US each to get in for the general public.... $135 AU at the time...!
It makes we laugh when I hear of people bitchin about $20 to get into ARQ or $80 for a dance party.... "trolley dolly" hit the nail on the head, our parties, especially the big ones are some of the best in the world, our clubs rival that in Europe and the USA... we have it so good.!
Brad W - Sat 14 Feb 2004 17:20:37

then it keeps on sucking. But you can't tell people because everyone thinks they know what they are doing with drugs. This isn't the best place to talk about the dangers of drugs because many of the people here are responsible and professional, with something to lose.

But we should never stop trying to educate, all the same.
the real deal - Sat 14 Feb 2004 20:02:24

and their musical styles? are their DJ's as good as ours?
shagged - Sat 14 Feb 2004 20:07:54

as you said, not sure if this is the best place to talk about the dangers of drugs, but can you elaborate on some of the stuff you were saying about xtal? btw, i've never tried it but a close friend uses it and i don't understand why he does or what he gets out of it, but it's his choice.
what's the deal? - Sun 15 Feb 2004 01:05:49

Friday night was Friday the 13th. Saturday was Valentine day so people chose to stay home on Friday they don't want to get bad luck on their love day.
- Sun 15 Feb 2004 12:19:49

I don't know what's in that "old e and k" you're on love, but I'd chuck it quickly if I were you.

There's no way you could possibly know what "almost everyone else is on" but you
decide to smear the venue, organisers and DJ's anyway.

Maybe you need some time out to clear your head - and your perspective?
- Sun 15 Feb 2004 12:20:54

Forbes Street Fair (the Sunday b4 Inquisition) was on Mother's Day a few years in a row, and the dates for Leather Pride got moved around for a few reasons, one being it always seemed to blow a gale on Forbes St Fair. Easter and ANZAC Day co-inciding seemed like a good idea for a big leathery weekend but it ended up costing nearly triple with holidays rates and such.
I really enjoyed the Big Leather Beer Garden vibe at last year's Leather Fair and am looking forward to this years Leather Festival - I imagine once the venues are fixed in then the publicity machine will kick in.
Now isn't it MardiGras time?
Lil - luscious in leather and looking forward to Parade time - Sun 15 Feb 2004 23:36:52

Paul Goodyear and Steve Allkins make a formidable pair. EXCELLENT
Up and UP - Tue 17 Feb 2004 13:56:11

Yes cause god forbid there be any events without any dancing or DJs playing.
tounge in cheek - Tue 17 Feb 2004 16:27:39

Luke Leal will open the Vortex at 10pm - 2am and then Neal Crawford will join Luke on the desks for 2 hours of "real-deal Leal-Neal mayhem!". Neal will the continue till 6:30am. Vocal Anthems, Chunky funky house with a slice of progressive trance.

Sounds like a great night!
Craigy - Wed 18 Feb 2004 12:35:47

Next thing you know, I am in big trouble. Still am and will not be returning to that club for a while.

What's with the bad attitude?

The Gay Straight Alliance took a few steps backward that night
- Wed 18 Feb 2004 13:36:10

Warning: don't assume everyone smiling and dancing, IS
- Wed 18 Feb 2004 13:37:59

you don't think that calling anyone you don't know a fag could be interpreted in the wrong way?

Surely you have to admit that you're mostly to blame for the situation you find yourself in?
- Wed 18 Feb 2004 17:55:36

darn good choice of song
- Wed 18 Feb 2004 17:57:06

Next thing you know, I am in big trouble. Still am and will not be returning to that club for a while.

What's with the bad attitude?

The Gay Straight Alliance took a few steps backward that night"- Wed 18 Feb 2004 13:36:10

Gay/Straight Etiquette 101: If you're not a fag it's inadvisable to call fags who you don't know, "Fags." "Fag" is often assumed to be an insult by gay men who are the recipients of it in those circumstances.

It would be a bit like bouncing up to a black couple, unknown to you, and merrily inquiring as to whether "you two coons are having a good time."
The risk of misunderstanding is obvious; so is the obvious need to avoid it.
I think "are you guys having a good time" might have been better.
- Wed 18 Feb 2004 18:05:57

are you for real? if you said that to me, then unless you were a close personal friend then i'd be offended too and personally threaten your ability to dance by stomping on your toes !!! ;-)

i really hope this is some form of rev-up
dont call me fagboi unless we've already frukked ;-) - Wed 18 Feb 2004 18:16:16

17:55:36, Yes I do (mostly)

18:05:57, Point taken

dont call me fagboi unless we've already frukked ;-), YES I am for real

I DO push the boundaries but we all have to laugh at ourselves. Most people can see where I am coming from. But not all. Lesson is learn't HOWEVER I accept the blame but not all of it.

I just couldn't believe the personal threats that ensued but I do concede that some of you [not YOU] are not ready to laugh at yourselves. I also wish I could sort this mess out
deep cover - Wed 18 Feb 2004 18:40:17

Yes, there will be a Malcom stewart Party this year on Thursday 04/03/04 at ARQ. The invitations are out but limited due to ARQ not City Live this year. City live can Hold more people but didn't fill up last two years.

Good luck to you if you can get Invitation , unless you are damn georges.

I don't believe in a Party call "Fund Raising for Charity " when they go out and select people who they think would give money to the charities. well if you want to select who should attend the party then don't expect people to pay at the door. throw a party at your own expenses then you can select people who is allowed to come. don't you agree ?
Sensible - Wed 18 Feb 2004 20:06:47

I will NEVER say that again
- Wed 18 Feb 2004 20:57:53

But what I received back served as a barometer of the resentment that I admit to having under-estimated, severly. Yeah, I screwed up, alright

do you understand that logic?
deep cover - Wed 18 Feb 2004 21:13:04

It maybe says something about the current preoccupation with everyone being metrosexuals and "labels not mattering anymore." I think that identity does still matter - more than we might think.
- Thu 19 Feb 2004 10:32:13

Straight boys will always be outsiders. Assimilation doesn't happen easily
I hear there are some good DJ's here - Thu 19 Feb 2004 11:09:27

Let's hope we still get the ALL the current DJ's and a few more
DJ fest - Thu 19 Feb 2004 12:03:52

To help the festivities along in the music department, our ever capable Mandy Rollins is joined by DJ Feisty, in a girl-on-girl dirty DJ spin-off. Music not to be missed!

In the shows, we have three big ones since it's a special night and all...

Cherry 2000 will be performing to celebrate the release of their new CD "Kidnapped in LA" with the hit single TALK DIRTY, and they may be persuaded to do some whipping too!

SLPA President Greg Bloye will be tying up a pretty package of man-meat... and then there will be Zoo - think chocolate, raw eggs, blood, body modifications and orifices - weirdly erotic!

There will also be ticket giveaways to XXX @ The Enmore Theatre through the night, along with regular faves like Ultra & her All-Grrl Spankettes and cheap cocktails and chilled tunes pre-midnight.

If you haven't been before or want to find out more, visit us on the web at http://www.hellfiresydney.com

Thanks Sydney for supporting all our DJ's, performers and staff over such a long period of time - we think it's about 77 in nightclub years - and we hope you can join us for a hot & sweaty summer night.
Master Tom - The Hellfire Club - Thu 19 Feb 2004 13:45:59

you've hit it on the head there .. "laughing at yourselves". i think you'll find the majority of gay guys who are comfortable with where they are at will be constantly taking the piss out of themselves and each other by calling each other bitch, fag, poof etc as terms of endearment ... and doesn't most drag humour take the piss out of ourselved collectively? .. however, as you said, you are not one of us, and hence do not have the same scope in the taking the piss department.
the last word? prolly not - Thu 19 Feb 2004 15:52:39

The Master who brought you Club DV8 and the Mistress who brought you Lavish have joined forces and cooked up some wickedly fresh new fetish events.........!

Learning from our past experience and being more in tune with your needs, we’ve come up with an evil plan that we’re sure your going to love. Welcome to the devious world of Perv!

The aim of our events is to present a new and exciting mix of possibilities for BDSM/Fetish enthusiasts or beginners, whatever your kink may be. If you are gay, lesbian, hetero or bi we welcome you and want you to feel comfortable a pansexual atmosphere, with the knowledge that your boundaries will be respected.

Perv Events operate within the parameters of the “Safe, Sane and Consensual” ethos, recognised and practised throughout the kink community worldwide. For the comfort, safety and enjoyment of all, we expect those attending our events to abide by these guidelines at all times.

PERV runs two different events in separate venues. Each of these parties: Perv-Dance & Perv-Play has a very different focus and their own unique atmosphere. Both creating a number of environments in which people can dance, socialise, play, create their own performances and best of all, perv!

Launch: Perv-Dance Saturday 3rd April at the Globe

Launch: Perv-Play Saturday 1st May 2004 (at our new underground warehouse in Ultimo) Members Only

For more information on Perv-Events, visit our web site www.pervevents.com
- Thu 19 Feb 2004 17:43:19

I'm going back undercover, now - see you on the dance floor
deeper cove - Thu 19 Feb 2004 18:27:28

Can't wait for MG Recovery on the rooftop.
- Fri 20 Feb 2004 10:38:17

Thursday nites have been going for as long as I can remember. Why would Arq open Thursday nites if they didn't make any money?
Andrew - Fri 20 Feb 2004 12:53:50

$$$??? didn't someone say that Arq has re-registered as a charity? That would explain the totally empty club. Or was it that you keep going to the Arena?
try downstairs, silly
deep cover - Fri 20 Feb 2004 18:10:05

a mate and i managed to smooch our way into the malcolm stewart recovery party in the arena at arq on the thursday night last mardi gras. the arena was shut early in the evening with only the vortex being open to general public, and they stopped entry there after 1 am. the recovery in the arena started at 3 am and you could only get in with a ticket which i think you got if you went to the main party. we managed to get given some from people who had come from the main party. it was the best night at arq/arena of any of the nights over mardi gras in our opinion. can't remember who the dj was but he was awesome !!!
- Fri 20 Feb 2004 18:17:23

Sounds good. Pity they aren't going to be playing in the arena, which would be so much better....
- Fri 20 Feb 2004 18:26:36

Actually guys can I please have a Happy Mcvalue Real Meal Deal Leal Neil Deal ?

Spare the cheese.
- Sat 21 Feb 2004 07:38:06

The *ONLY* positives about Big Queer nation at the Hordern pavilion is that we get to party at a Queer Nation without having to suffer from -

1/ An Extreme and dangerously overheated space

2/ Feral Air conditioning that does no more that spew and rain out its filthy re-cycled water onto the ground and all over the people trying to dance.

3/ A Space that actually wont be overcrowded to the point where people are having the life crushed out of them !

Actually take out those above three conditions and QN is actually for the first time in over 18 months actually starting to sound appealing to me. Amazing what a change of venue can do !!!
- Sat 21 Feb 2004 07:53:15

And since when has Paul Goodyear played trance in the arena on a Saturday night?
- Sat 21 Feb 2004 09:14:15

Also many QN DJs already do play at dance parties. In fact there would be virtually none of them that haven't played at Mardi Gras or Sleaze at some stage.
Arti - Sat 21 Feb 2004 09:32:44

I think you should check your facts before assuming that ALL QN DJs have played at MG or Sleaze. This is not so.
- Sat 21 Feb 2004 13:33:23

After MG is over I'm going to go through all my records and compile a list of DJ's and shows just for the sake of it. I'm sure it will be interesting to see how the parties have changed over the years. How many of you can remember the year that Bill Morley played The Blue Danube and everyone was waltzing? No DJ would dare to do that these days!
GT - Sat 21 Feb 2004 15:27:59

Does it really matter?
Zeeta - Sat 21 Feb 2004 18:36:32

And who can also remember Bill Morley palying at a Mardi Gras party (I think it could have been the same one as the Blue Danube event) who fell asleep while a song was playing and nodded his head off onto the turntable that was playing a record at the time *CRUNCH* ! Apparrently he had been drinking alcohol and taking rohypnols for kicks during his set. Apparrently the lighting guy Ivan Smith who was also a DJ at the time had to take over for about 20 mins until Morley got his shit back together !!!

Its stories like that that make Mardi gras folklore so interesting !!!
The Librarian - Sat 21 Feb 2004 19:26:10

Neil Crawford played the last set in the Horden at Sleaze 2003.
- Sat 21 Feb 2004 23:31:43

thats also folklore

or who can remember that dj set up in the piss trough of those notorous underground toilets

ps
where those toilets used to be a commenrative plaque should be hung there.............a significant cultural place
loz - Sun 22 Feb 2004 23:28:19

I’ll be joined on the decks by Luke Fry from London – we’ll be playing Uplifting House Anthems with a funky Hed Kandi slant.

We’ll kick off at 7am and go through until lunch. It’s a relaxed, friendly morning and for $5 both girls and guys are welcome.

Come down for a drink, a dance and come over and say hi, we won’t bite (unless you ask nicely ;)
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Dan Murphy - Mon 23 Feb 2004 11:32:31

i think it was mr buck naked.
lovin' it - Mon 23 Feb 2004 15:18:54

It was Buck Naked and the gig was a tongue-in-cheek response to the then fevered debate about gender-specific spaces. It also turned out, coincidentally, to be about the last time that the old Hordern toilets rocked. When you think back to what it was like down 'the ramp to Paradise' compared to today's stern advisories to check one's genitalia at the coatcheck on arrival, you kind of wonder what we've lost.
- Mon 23 Feb 2004 15:37:49

the party is not exclusively for bears but for bears and thier admirers/friends. In other words EVERYONE is welcome to attend.

It's shaping up as a lot of fun. The line up is;
Shanobear
Marc Alsop
Seymour Butts
Plus a special guest DJ whose name can not be mentioned at this time :)
It's on Wednesday of next week and more details can be obtained from the Shift or HCBears
- Mon 23 Feb 2004 19:12:18

hell yeah. doing my first big gig soon and have been nervous for weeks.
- Mon 23 Feb 2004 20:22:35

The aim of REBOUND is to feel like you’re coming down to a friend’s party for a good time. We’ll create an atmosphere where you can feel comfortable to do whatever you want – dance your tail off, chat away, play pool or just sit & chill.

So we’ll be dancing and chatting and enjoying ourselves too. However many people come along to join us will be the right amount.
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Dan Murphy - Mon 23 Feb 2004 23:20:29

First, they make scarce tickets even more scarce by taking some that punters would have purchased. I continually hear stories of people who were only a few people away from getting a ticket. If not for scalpers they would have bought a ticket.

Secondly they steal from the community. Azure, and many of our parties, donate money to our community organisations. Yes, their original money does go to the community, but then the scalpers walk away with enormous profits. They take advantage of our community events to make their own profits.

Thirdly, their profits are enormous. Say someone resells a $100 ticket for $120 which they have held for 2 months. This is equivalent to an interest rate of 120% per annum. Scalpers are selling for way more than this. Think 1000% to 2000% interest rates.

Also, there appear to be some scammers operating out there. If you are scammed report it to the police. Keep all your correspondence so the police can track it.
Panther - Tue 24 Feb 2004 08:41:52

hell yeah. doing my first big gig soon and have been nervous for weeks.
- Mon 23 Feb 2004 20:22:35

Well, it has been said that if you're not nervous on the night, you're not going to perform well. Having said that, it's really hard to please everyone and you know that you're there because you have a great selection of tunes and the skills and absolute gut wrenching courage to get up there in the first place. I mean that last bit because it's true that there are a lot of people who knock what the dj plays - if only they would just get up and have a go themselves. But I think that's where their criticism comes from in the first place. DJ's are not a glorified jukebox, nor are they bulletproof. This criticism can really damage a great talent because others want to knock them from their place. And let's face it, the whole thing is so competitive in the first place. Trying to knock someone down a peg or too doesn't help anything or anyone.
just who are we trying to please? - Tue 24 Feb 2004 10:56:42

Oh and Jake, if you ever need a baby sitter for your dog, count me in. He is beautiful.
NC - Tue 24 Feb 2004 11:51:48

Well, it has been said that if you're not nervous on the night, you're not going to perform well. Having said that, it's really hard to please everyone and you know that you're there because you have a great selection of tunes and the skills and absolute gut wrenching courage to get up there in the first place. I mean that last bit because it's true that there are a lot of people who knock what the dj plays - if only they would just get up and have a go themselves. But I think that's where their criticism comes from in the first place. DJ's are not a glorified jukebox, nor are they bulletproof. This criticism can really damage a great talent because others want to knock them from their place. And let's face it, the whole thing is so competitive in the first place. Trying to knock someone down a peg or too doesn't help anything or anyone.
just who are we trying to please? - Tue 24 Feb 2004 10:56:42

All so true.

Yes, I get nervous as hell before a big gig. My bladder goes awol, ensuring that I spend the hour prior to playing at a big party running backwards and forwards from the toilets to release the pressure. No matter how many parties you do, it doesn't get any easier. There's a lot riding on your performance, especially when members of the glbt community can be so critical. But hell, it's worth it.
JK - Tue 24 Feb 2004 12:04:13

A certain nervousness is good for the performance element.
Damon Hartley - Tue 24 Feb 2004 13:38:45

please get the glass roof in Azure team - you put it in your ad for peats sake which was pretty cheeky as it wasn't even a pic from your party. kinda seems like false advertising otherwise
- Tue 24 Feb 2004 16:22:30

YOU'VE all got balls!! and that includes any females.

It takes courage to get up there. It takes talent to stay there.
buterflies - Tue 24 Feb 2004 17:06:22

just out of curiosity, what is compression, and how much tweaking of the system can/does the dj do for their set or during their set?
audio for dummies - Tue 24 Feb 2004 18:01:27

about 5 years ago i was offerred a MG ticket for 300. It's a shame I didn't take because I had a car accident on the way home. Talk about a bad night & it's all the scalper's fault.

I'm with Panther. Scalpers are like bad bacteria, they multiply if left unchecked. Maybe anyone purchasing bulk or frequently, ought to supply a mailing address and take receipt by registered {real} mail.
i wanna but some tickets. Anyone selling tickets? etc. etc. - Tue 24 Feb 2004 22:31:48

Indulgence is the only leather party I know of for the Mardi Gras period and apart from Inquisition, the only leather event left (kinda lump hellfire more into the fetish pile, and Karnal is pretty irregular).

Get your harness ready and your chaps strapped because this party will be hot
Make sure you do leather up... and be creative, we don't all live in 1979 and san francisco:)
- Tue 24 Feb 2004 23:26:54

What an occupation waether forecasting is where you get paid a wad full of money and still keeping your job even though you get it wrong more than 50% of the time.

Any other occupation where you make that many mistakes and you'd be fired out the door after your first month
Dont Trust the weatherman !! - Wed 25 Feb 2004 08:35:58

Isn't is a bit old hat and over-used to claim that if the weather forecasters predict one thing, it will be the opposite. Kind of 1950s type of humour. Forecastig is an inexact science but probably more accurate than not.

By your logic, it should be all sunshine and heat tomorrow
- Wed 25 Feb 2004 09:37:56

just out of curiosity, what is compression, and how much tweaking of the system can/does the dj do for their set or during their set?
audio for dummies - Tue 24 Feb 2004 18:01:27

yeah, come on damon, out with it
klutzoid - Wed 25 Feb 2004 11:08:36

It's that time of year we've all been hanging out for! That's right - it's
time for another party!

Now we've all been disappointed about what's happened in the past which is
why this one's going to be so great - we've got a great new venue and
because this is organised by the council and it's unlicensed, it's going
ahead! We've also managed to reduce the ticket price which I'm sure will be
helpful to all of you!

Now I know you want the details, so here they are:-

Evolution Underwater
A party for 13-17's
7pm - midnight, Friday 5th March
Swimming and Partying @ Victoria Park Pools (which is near Sydney Uni and
Broadway in the city)
Tickets are $15 (including booking fee) available through Ticketmaster7 or
at the door.

There will be a dance floor for those who want to dance and the pools will
be open for those who don't.

A few other rules are:
Smoke, drug and alcohol free
No passouts
ID's and bags checked on entry
Any persons under the influence of alcohol or other drugs will be denied
entry to the event
Supervision at all times by over 21's
Homophobia not tolerated

The event is promoted by City of Sydney.
For more details visit www.velocity.org.au

If you know anyone in the age range please pass on this info as this party is for them..
=========================
Velocity // Media Release
www.velocity.org.au
media@velocity.org.au
Nick kelleher - Wed 25 Feb 2004 14:30:22

Ain't that the sad truth!
- Wed 25 Feb 2004 15:02:28

put more simply:
if you play a source too loud, you overpower the feed. rather than getting louder, the amplifier cuts back the sound and reduces the volume.

a compressor is usually in between the mixer and the amplifier to save the amp

please correct me damon if i got some of that wrong
but i think this is the general gist
- Wed 25 Feb 2004 15:23:15

- Wed 25 Feb 2004 15:23:15

is this how dj's go deaf too? and how about that crowd of people out there? are they going deaf too?

i've been to some great parties, but they nearly always seem to have the pa way too loud to the point where the sound is harsh, cold and banging really hard on my ear drums. ouch! i'm a big fan of loud music though and if it's too quiet then how can you get into a groove? guess some like it that way too!
- Wed 25 Feb 2004 17:20:01

if a system is compressing the volume tends to be reduced by the compressor which limits the volume in an overload sitauation

djs are likely to go deaf due to the proximity of monitor speakers to their heads and the constant high volume barrage of their ears from both these and the main "front ot house" system. remember a monitor needs to seem more loud to the dj so that they can hear the sound they're producing at the time which they send the signal. in a big room like the rhi or hordern, and even in smaller clubs also, the sound travels to a distant wall and bounces back before the dj hears the front of house, or.... the sound must travel from the nearest speaker to the dj for them to hear it. even given the speed of sound some time difference between the music being sent and being heard from the booth will occur.... this is why we need monitors in case you were wondering. some very famous djs like junior vasquez have lost lots of their hearing and if you listen to his stuff now it is pretty piercing,as he cannot really hear what he is producing, and perhaps no one has the heart to tell him. guess we can't all be as talented as beethoven for example.

people are likely to get ear damage in clubs from dancing in front of large speakers and most people do to some degree, whether they notice it or not. really recommend paying attention to things like ringing ears, and even consider using ear plugs if you can deal with it (i know that sounds nana-ish, but think of your ears and the possibility of losing hearing.... some djs use special plugs which cut out some sound, and these are available for anyone for a price)

there you go
btw, even deaf people can feel the bass, so it aint all bad:) - Thu 26 Feb 2004 02:04:26

what's the story - what happened with the Burdekin recovery?
- Thu 26 Feb 2004 02:25:19

Get over the sepratism.
- Thu 26 Feb 2004 07:52:19

Agreed. For heaven's sake, come together!
- Thu 26 Feb 2004 10:15:26

But, and from my anal perfectionist point of view, it is also there to limit dynamic range, For example, with bands, you may have various sub-groups for Drums, Guitars, Vocal etc. You can, by inserting compressors over individual sub-groups, "layer" the various areas of the overall sound spectrum to get the groups where you want them to "sit" in the mix.

Now, live music has the ultimate dynamic range, up to about 120db. Vinyl has a Dynamic Range of around 65-70db and CD has a Dynamic Range up to about 95db. So if you start to compress it, by the DJ being naugthy, you start, especially with Vinyl, to compress what is already a much below 'live' dynamic range.

Hence when you hear compression, especially on a Vinyl mix, it really does sound 'flat' and basically bloody aweful.

We, of the Audio fraternity, try very hard to work with our brothers and sisters of the spinning discs to ensure absolutely minimal compression to avoid any degradation of dynamic range.

Sometimes, unfortunately, some DJs do not listen (including some very prominent ones) and the end result is an overly compressed system. We are not going to let a DJ destroy a system just because he/she has their 'peddle to the metal' - it's our job to ensure that a system can keep operating for all concerned, especially the venue owner or production company who have to pay for repair damages. The average re-cone for a decent speaker costs up to $400 plus labour.

If it sounds like crap, quite often it is the DJ pushing things too hard and the system looking after No. 1.

The Shift system, for example, has 36 speaker components that must operate for long hours and hence the system has been set-up to protect those speakers.

So, basically, if a DJ knows where to look for the compressors (and I always try to have them placed where they can see them), and keeps within the limits, they will have uncompressed music giving the best possible dynamic range to their audience.

I must conclude by saying thank you to the many, many guys and gals that I have had the pleasure of working with within the limits of the system relevant at the time. Most are great and want you to get their music unadulterated.

Hope this has covered the basics of compression. I could go on for pages regarding the ratio of compression we use, the attack and release etc, let alone what limiting is all about (used closely with compression) but let's not....

Thank you for listening. I'm off to Hawaii for the Atlantis Cruise next week so I hope you all have a compression free and fully dynamic Mardi Gras Party and associated parties/recoveries.
Damon Hartley - Thu 26 Feb 2004 13:21:01

And we wonder why the spread of HIV has increased, when we are promoting sex parties. With all the 'heat of the moment' I'm sure not everyone would opt for the safe sex option.

Enjoy the 'Game of Life'......
Crazy people.... - Thu 26 Feb 2004 13:25:11

Brad honey, the small amount of high frequency loss happens to men as they age regardless of their exposure to loud music. You must be getting on.... (yes, I know, I can talk).
Damon H - Thu 26 Feb 2004 13:31:07

Well...speak for yourself I guess . There doesn't have to be a direct correlation between "sex party" and unsafe sex, there usually isn't. If you look at the reams of research in this area, it's pretty clear that most of the partcipants in sex venues use sensible risk strategies most of the time. There's probably something like 100-150,000 gay guys constantly getting it on round Sydney. After 20 years, maybe 5-6,000 max, are poz. I think Ken's - and other venues - have done a pretty good job of getting the safe sex message out there over the last 20-odd years.
- Thu 26 Feb 2004 14:07:00

thanks for that info ... i've often wondered why/how some dj's can make great systems sound like the music is playing through congealed lube at times. i was ignorant enough to think that a system is a system and it must have been the source material (surely dj's don't play reconstituted downloaded mp3's .. hehe) that was the cause of the flatness like on our plain vanilla home "systems".
audio for dummies - Thu 26 Feb 2004 15:52:08

Sensible, indeeed. However, I am surprised that such the vital data is not presented to you in a more obvious way.

Good on you for going into such detail to educate us, btw. It's not just a party wall, rather a fountain of knowledge ["just a party", indeed!]
- Thu 26 Feb 2004 20:48:04

Good call!
- Fri 27 Feb 2004 11:03:24

what's with this 'official' stuff? who cares about the o-word in the title - it doesn't lend the party any cred at all. 'shagadelic' is a terrible name for a girls event anyway.
nuddles - Fri 27 Feb 2004 11:20:24

yes, it's huge, but overcrowed as they jam heaps of people into a really small space. let's hope we don't get the 40+ heat spells we've been having in brisbane for this event.
- Fri 27 Feb 2004 11:32:14

Gee I dunno. Why do Greek-Australians have Greek parties? Why do aboriginal Australians have aboriginal get-togethers? Why do Italian-Australians have Italian clubs to party in? I don't think there's the slightest problem with celebrating our difference for one night and I'm buggered if I'm going to start apologising for it. I've no desire whatsoever to exclude straight people - you can't anyway, even if you wanted to. All I ask is that our straight friends respect and celebrate what - and who - Mardi Gras is principally about.
- Fri 27 Feb 2004 11:41:27

new Mardigras need money to cover all cost of the Festival . Gay alone don't sell enough tickets so we need straight people to party with us so we can raise more money to cover insurance cost ect, ect....remember the old MG went bankcrupt. so be tolerant let the N MG lives forever. Celerbrate diversity everyone is including if you have money. It's not cheap to spend a night like MG. And we have dance floor this time at Hordern.

Sensible man
- Fri 27 Feb 2004 18:07:16

sensible man
- Fri 27 Feb 2004 18:24:17

So if you’re still going from tonight or even if you get your beauty sleep, come down and say hi!
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Dan Murphy - Fri 27 Feb 2004 18:44:25

haven't hear anyone slag them off for being straight targeting yet and surely that kind of advertising is just that.
- Fri 27 Feb 2004 19:24:10

Last year after trundling up oxford st, a friend an i stopped off at the shift and our other friends continued on to Arq after Azure...We had the best morning ever - it was a fantastic party at Shift, and our friends had a bit of a dreary night at Arq. I'm not a big Wayne G fan, so very much looking forward to doing the Shift again this year.
Ms Golightly - Fri 27 Feb 2004 22:22:16

The Underbear party is really shaping up as a lot of fun.Each of the DJ's has thier own style and were chosen for exactly that reason. I was asked to provide the commercial/handbag part of the evening and will be doing that with a set comprised of old and new songs (some with my tongue firmly in cheek). I know this style of music is not to everyones taste so I would suggest if you don't like that style, perhaps arriving after my set would be a good idea. I have copped some flack from certain pinkboard readers over my music but this was the brief I was given for the party and I'm working with it.

I've been asked by a few of the guys to play certain songs and have incorporated all the requests into my set. I'm looking forward to playing at the Shift for the first time and dancing the night away after I finish my set.

Also I've never been described as a new bear on the block before, thanks mate it made me smile in the middle of a very stressful week.
Shanobear - Sat 28 Feb 2004 07:30:26

check out smooch at east village for an all afternoon recovery - funky beats - then indulgence at the shift... tickets for indulgence are nearly sold out though
- Sat 28 Feb 2004 09:40:12

Besides QN, what other recovery parties are there? Would like to give QN a miss this time...
out of the loop - Fri 27 Feb 2004 23:32:05

QN can be gay only if enough gay people attend . see what happened ,QN didn't fill up last time and now it has more competion for MG recovery so they need straight to fill up the gap. he, he, he...
- Fri 27 Feb 2004 21:35:43

I don't know about all this, but if they are advertising to a straight crowd, it's probably because the gay scene (particularly posters on this wall) have been griping about it.
- Sat 28 Feb 2004 11:31:07

"Shagadelic?" Hmmmm. I think I'd be inclined to view NMG's knock-off as a bit of a blessing in disguise, love. Now that they've knocked off the name you could come up with something way more tasteful. "Rotorooter" might work.... :)
- Sat 28 Feb 2004 17:46:37

You definately are wrong. Quite a few have heard me play at my regular gig at the Taxi Club where I have been resident for over 12 months. During that time I've had visits from one or two pinkboarders who were less than complimentary about the style of music I play at the Taxi (most have been very friendly and positive just one or two ill mannered people).

This will be my first gig outside that venue and my 3rd gig for Harbour City Bears. It's going to be a lot of fun for me both during my set and after when I'll be dancing to the other DJ's on that night.
Shanobear - Sat 28 Feb 2004 20:08:22

on the plus side - she did have the video for HMC - Phreakin played on channel V
man_ache - Sat 28 Feb 2004 23:58:48

Why can't we trial a few smoke-free nights and see how we cope? If participating venues had a smoke-free night that alternates with other venues, at least we have a choice and a trial all at the same time.

Anyone who wishes to smoke can either leave the premises or go so a small designated smoking area. maybe.
think tank - Sun 29 Feb 2004 00:01:36

= = = = = = = = = =

When I scored my first gig, I thought it absolutely necessary to choose a DJ name that was memorable & punchy. After hours & hours of deliberation, my friends and I settled on what we thought best fit the bill.

The promoter said they weren’t allowed to print that word on the flyer, so I opted for the runner-up name: DJ Bum Boy. That club lasted for just the one night, and so did that name…

When I moved over from London to Sydney I considered maybe choosing again. We came up with loads, but I decided to go with just my name. For me, it felt like I was picking my own nickname and none of them really fit.

Also Tiesto, Oakenfold and Tenaglia were already taken ;)
(just) Dan Murphy - Sun 29 Feb 2004 02:00:42

why aren't they playing mardi gras?????
disappointed but will make the best of it:)

looking forward to shagadelic recovery whatever the kerfuffle is about the name

free dj name suggestion
"DJ WILLwork4food"
- Sun 29 Feb 2004 05:50:43

having watched "twisted" Wayne G's lifestyle on the road really pushes the envelope, hence the occaional off night.
- Sun 29 Feb 2004 09:13:57

I was given about 30 seconds to decide what name was going to be printed on the poster when I first started and just used my nickname.
Shanobear - Sun 29 Feb 2004 09:46:11

Regarding Chip, as much as I love him - the guy needs a very well deserved rest. He worked continuosly throughout the silly season and made a lot people happy. He was "everywhere" and I actualy told him he needed a rest [I would like to think he took my advice]

DJ's need a break. People fail to recognise this because nobody wants to give up a good thing.

Same goes for Dave; I love him too--BabyBear has given me some of the best nights on the floor. 05:50:43, I am pleased to see we both like the same DJ's

Shanobear, you did well with the name. And Dan, you're a funny guy!

I'm going to miss Ultra Nate at Azure/Arq due to work commitments.sad news indeed. It's times like this when I REALLY WISH I WAS A DJ!
deep cover - Sun 29 Feb 2004 14:08:21

and for later - How was Ultra Nate? In fact, how is or was your night?
Miss Ingout - Sun 29 Feb 2004 23:03:47

deep cover - Sun 29 Feb 2004 14:08:21

Thanks guys.
Shanobear - Mon 1 Mar 2004 06:16:21

Are other reviews from other who attended the same? I didn't go, but I really wished I had... But after hearing/reading reports it sounds like another one of our famous parties may be on the way out!!

:(
Not happy jan - Mon 1 Mar 2004 10:06:37

Its strange that most Aussies cant recognise talent when they hear it !!
An alternative viewpoint - Mon 1 Mar 2004 11:03:51

It's indeed sad that such a venue can't command a decent DJ. When they make so much money why can't they spend some of it on the likes of Eric Morillo or Roger Sanchez or some other half decent gay DJ.
- Mon 1 Mar 2004 11:26:07

That the promoters could charge that ticket price and put in such a woeful sound system is stunning in its boldness...get rid of the extended fireworks (that wasn't even in sequence with the music) and put in some decent speakers.

oh yeah - tell the camera nazi's to back off as well next year. People trying to take pictures of their friends in front of the harbour and opera house and some thug in a bad yellow polo shirt comes up and tells them the camera will be confiscated.
Ms Golightly - Mon 1 Mar 2004 11:31:23

Goodness Ms Golightly! The tenor of your communication is wildly at odds with your normally sunny, upbeat nature! And it's not even Tuesday :) Given the consistently authoritative nature of your celebratory analysis, I can only conclude that "Azure" was indeed "not great" - to put it mildly.

But, while I think we can all agree that bad yellow polo shirt wearing is unredeemingly vile, the no cameras thing has been standard at gay parties for years. While there's a definite commercial aspect to it - licensed photographers only - there's also the problem of caught unawares action shots of guys who are definitely not gay, (just waiting for the right girl to come along) falling into the hands of those who might, therefore, reasonably conclude otherwise.

I know it seems a little paranoid in this day and age but there we are. As for mobile phones, if you're at a party with the sort of people who think it's OK to receive calls on the dance-floor then - clearly - you've fallen in with a very bad crowd indeed.
- Mon 1 Mar 2004 12:28:38

PS: there is someone over on the MG wall calling him/herself Sarcastic Sally: I know I can be just that at the best of times but that poster is not me!
Sally Tomato - Mon 1 Mar 2004 13:04:20

Then had almost the worst 3 hours ever in Arq when Wayne G was playing. There was absolutlely no theme or style. The first 2 hours was a nightmare and the last one had some moment but otherwise almost as bad as earlier. Me and my friends could not believe we actually stayed through it just to listen to DJ Josh playing after that and boy did we have a fantastic time then .... from 6am to 9am !!! Goes to show that DJs from Oz do have what it takes to get the crowd happy and wild so we should not bother about paying so much and bringing others from overseas.
JW - Mon 1 Mar 2004 13:34:11

What a fantastic DJ.... needs to be used more....

:)
A DJ that makes me smile..... and then my head go BANG! - Mon 1 Mar 2004 13:55:56

On the no camera's policy (clearly indicated on the ticket and on entry), i just think it is a shame that people who are clearly visiting and obviously taking pictures of their friends in front of the vista of the bridge and o/house can't do that. For many people, it is the location which makes the party...and location was the only thing Azure had going for it this year.

You make allowances for the lighting and lack of cover at harbour party/azure, but i would of thought the sound system was non-negotiable and it just wasn't up to scratch. (as for the mobile phones, not my crowd, just seemed to be an awful lot of people who needed to share with their colourist/tanning consultant/life coach exactly how they were feeling at that very moment).

Not wanting to be overly negative...i didn't even mention Wayne G...but you know when you walk though the Pitt St Mall and Dotti has wild fm 5 or central station energy mix whatever blaring out ...well he sounded a bit like that...only muffled and dull and very very quiet!

But just to end on a positive note...i always find the vodka slushy's delightful (and no, craig and russell, that is not a reference to you)
Ms Golightly - Mon 1 Mar 2004 14:06:11

We arrived at 5 and made our grand entrance down those (fabulous) steps feeling like debutantes being presented to the dancefloor. The first hour was occupied with promenading around looking resplendent, taking in the spectacular view and having a right good old perve. Once the dancefloor filled up some we planted ourselves in front of the speaker bank under Alex and boogied away as the sun set & clouds cleared.

Ultra Nate came on to perform her new single which we’d already heard Marcia Hines do a much better job of a few years back. For my money she was okay, but didn’t knock my socks off. More dancing and chatting. Every trip to the loo required an obliging stranger to photograph us in front of the Opera House both on the way there and again on the way back (thank heavens for digital cameras…)

Then the DJ’s swapped. Well, Celine Dion’s cover of I Drove All Night was a time my enthusiasm for the music particularly ebbed. Luckily the speakers weren’t too loud for that number. Wayne said there was a problem with the system and try as he might there was nothing he could do to pump it up. We took an extended scenic tour and returned to be serenaded by Love Is In The Air.

After being repeatedly shooed off the grassy hill by men in varying degrees of unbecoming outfits we took to the steps for the other two shows. I was admittedly a little tipsy but very impressed by both numbers. Those acrobatic gymnasts worked me into quite a lather and Crystal Waters hit just the right tone to close the party.

Apart from one cranky man coming out of the downstairs toilets, I found everyone to be friendly & talkative (when they could get a word in edgewise ;)

There was one point where I was nearly so overwhelmed with emotion to be dancing amongst my dearest friends with Sydney’s Harbour as a backdrop that I nearly burst into tears. And this was only on a few (and a few more) vodkas. I came away from the party more than satisfied.

Arq was next on the bill and we arrived to hear Luke Leal playing some tremendous tracks. It was just too crowded & steamy upstairs so we retired to the Vortex where Stewart Who cranked out some marvellous funky house. Then Ultra Nate came on and played some very different, unusual tunes. The only consistency was how surprisingly inconsistent her music was. We cleared out after half an hour and left them to it.

All in all a fabulous afternoon & evening, and now it’s onto the big one!
.
Dan Murphy - Mon 1 Mar 2004 14:07:04

I am just waiting for a respectable hour to whip up a dirty martini (i just need comfort food right now!)... 5 does seem an awful long time away though...i may have to start mixing at 4ish

just bring your good self out of sing sing for MG next week...we should do a wardrobe update and ETA's closer to the date.

i was well aware of the imposter...your words, Sally, are as smooth as honey on a warm tennessee evening...the difference was both stark and immediate!

ta ta for now
Ms Golightly - Mon 1 Mar 2004 14:24:36

Sad to hear Azure didn't reach your expectations but by next week you would have forgotten all about it. Bring on the MG party. Excitement builds. I'm having one night out this week because I want to catch Doug James playing tomorrow night at SW. I wonder if anyone enjoyed the music at Azure? Surely it couldn't be that bad?
worker - Mon 1 Mar 2004 15:23:50

Harbour party/Azure is definitely the most overrated party of the whole lot in Sydney - 9 out of 10 boys I speak to always rave about it being their favourite party. I've been twice and while the location is amazing - I have always found the party overall to be lacking something. The sound has never been great (the wind doesn't help), the weather is often questionable (and you spend the entire week beforehand looking at the weather forecasts and hoping for the best!), and it's just weird until darkness sets in by which time it's almost time to leave. It's a hike to go to the (ugh) portaloos as well and there's a lot of congestion in parts.

It's a great concept but definitely overrated IMO... not to mention over-priced. I think it should be held earlier like in January when you're guaranteed a warm night with less chance of rain.
Bodybag - Mon 1 Mar 2004 16:24:12

On the plus side, Crystal Waters nailed it at the end. She was fantastic.
chris - Mon 1 Mar 2004 16:24:38

Sometimes having to work instead can be a blessing in disguise (only sometimes...) :-)
Andrew - Mon 1 Mar 2004 17:13:01

Well, yeah I guess. And thank the Goddess I wasn't there last night. My wonderful Harbour Party memories are intact. When Ms Golightly lets rip you just know that all is most definitely NOT well. OTO, young Dan Murphy appeared to have managed to capture the moment - good on him. I remember - was it 99? - sitting up on the warm grassy bank as the sun sank, a wonderful glow infused me, Fatboy Slims's "Praise You" soaring out and the dancefloor canopy moving gracefully in a light breeze over 3,000 incredibly hot and lovely poofs and dykes. Yep, thank the Goddess indeed............
- Mon 1 Mar 2004 17:43:23

And you've still got the energy to share with Pinkboard!!!??? You're legends darl! Sorry - the devil made me do it ;)
- Mon 1 Mar 2004 19:07:45

Sometimes there's nothing like a bit of rock to get you going!

I have to say though that going to an event that is mostly straight makes you appreciate the gay community just a bit more.
GT - Mon 1 Mar 2004 23:36:12

It would be totally improper of me to "cast any light", or comment on the sound and/or its quality on Sunday afternoon/evening. Norwest Productions (with Randy Fransz as System Engineer and myself as Operator/Client Manager) had the pleasure to provide Audio for the last 5 of the 6 Harbour Parties ending in 2002.

The promoter/s of Azure have made commercial decisions regarding the Audio supplier since and I would suggest any questions are directed to them at info@azureparty.com.
Damon Hartley - Tue 2 Mar 2004 02:02:07

hasn't DJ Nervous been playing the straight scene for years now?
Anyway the boy on my bus to work this morning nattered on his mobile the whoel way about what a poor night they had at Azure and the official after party - at home by 12, how sad.
ready for the big one - Tue 2 Mar 2004 02:32:37

I saw the B52s years ago at Festival Hall in Brisbane and loved every second. One of the best and most entertaining concerts ever. It's good to hear they are still just as good now as they were then.
Shanobear - Tue 2 Mar 2004 04:38:08

He sure has!! He was one of the original DJ to set up Sublime (Pitt Street)... His happy go lucky attitude, great music range, and he knows how to get a party pumping..

Do we only need gay DJ's at our parties?? Shouldn't we get more outside the oxford street boundaries, and get some real talent......
Lovin' it - Tue 2 Mar 2004 09:32:54

The party was way too crowded which meant that I didn't run into half the mates who I usually do. I missed the social aspect of being able to see and find people who I know (and some whom I don't) have a chat, move on, dance, chat, sit etc. Huddling under whatever speakers we could find and shuffling around in a desultory fashion was not fun.

The sound was shocking. I know that it is a dodgy proposition to get it right in that venue but it has been much better than before.

The music was crap. Chintzy, cheesy, no progression or theme. I felt as though I was in South Beach or Palm Springs at some formulaic circuit party (well maybe that is what Azure has become). Apart from the spectacular site I didn't feel as though I was in sexy, flashy, pumping, shameless, brazen, hedonistic Sydney. "Xanadu", even as irony, just doesn't get my juices flowing.

The layout was not good and seemed to be designed to maximise the number of punters who could be squeezed in. Toilets were filthy, the lack of a bar other than the water tent at the northern end of the site meant a major hike back up toward the entrance for a slash or a bevvie. "Major" because that meant navigating through everybody else coming to and from the same area.

Pluses? The view, as always. The people working the bars were friendly and reasonably efficient. The people who I was with were fabulous but that's what friends are for, so to speak.

But for the cost, just not worth it. I won't be back - no big deal for the promoters, but a real shame for me.
GJ - Tue 2 Mar 2004 10:28:22

The promoters will feel it.... By the sounds of the wall everybody is totally pissed with Azure, and I have a feeling that next party people will not be so generous in handing over $100.00 for nothing... (They may find it quite difficult to promote there next party)......

Especially at this time of our silly season, $100.00 spent on a crap party could of definately been spent alot more wisely...

Let's hope this was not a sign for the start of Mardi Gras.... Things can only get better----- ahh of to the retro space for me :)

Happy Mardi Gras!!!

Ps Is there anyway to advise the promoters of our responses?
The Party starts now... YAH!! - Tue 2 Mar 2004 10:52:35

Standing in front of a speaker stack at Azure and being able to have a conversation without having to raise my voice is very wrong in my books. Cricky, if you were lucky enough to stand in the middle of the dance floor you could have heard a mouse fart.

Azure, I have attached a large virtual mirror to this message, I suggest you open it and have a good look at yourselves and perhaps offer us some kind of explanation as to why we payed such good money for such substandard production.

I feel sorry for the dee jay's whom mighted of actually sounded ok if we could of heard them.
- Tue 2 Mar 2004 10:59:08

Wayne G must be sent home. What an embarrassing set! Even the mixing was off (apparently "the wind" was to blame. Just horrible! Sydney would have provided a much better DJ.
- Tue 2 Mar 2004 11:40:50

But has anyone been to Mystique Nightclub in Bankgkok and in particular their toilets?

Here is a link if you haven't been there.

http://www.urinal.net/mystique/
Watersports - Tue 2 Mar 2004 12:54:56

i) the sound was shite. sounded like the music was coming from the concert hall at the opera house over the other side of the harbour. even standing in front of a speaker it was quiet. it failed utterly to envelop the crowd in sound and create a great dance floor atmosphere.

ii) xanadu seemed to get the juices flowing where i was standing.... lots of smiling faces. but it did sound like a blue light disco after a while with all the 70s stuff.

iii) a few have complained about there being no toilets downstairs. There were, we used them. And someone else complained about there being only one water tent. I counted at least three, including one right at the side of the dance floor.

iv) are the people who ran this party going to publicly address the sound issue, and explain what went wrong? they must be aware of what people are saying, and this many pissed-off punters who spent over $100 on the night would seem to demand information, perhaps an apology, or next year's event is going top struggle to sell out. A post on here would be useful. As would speaking to the gay papers and providing some explanation in thursdays poof press.
A place where nobody dared to go.... - Tue 2 Mar 2004 13:14:00

That is why nothing will be done about it.
- Tue 2 Mar 2004 14:12:57

I hear Iris is very, very business-oriented - lots of lawyers and accountants in the group, sponsorship salesmen, etc. Clearly the wrong company to be doing the party, but the venue owners are impressed, I guess.

Is there anything we can do to petition the Botanical Gardens to give the rights to the party to someone else? Who makes these decisions on our behalf?
- Tue 2 Mar 2004 14:41:47

The most distressing moment for me on sunday was seeing the cops trying to recusitate a guy being carried away on a stretcher - it was a horrible sight and I hope NMG have better emergency medical at their party this week (I also hope that people will make better decisions about the drugs they consume as G seems to be causing a lot of problems for our parties at present - but that sort or responsibility seems a big ask in Sydney these days!).

On top of all that we were confronted by a poor choice in music and styles by both DJs - what were Wayne and Alex thinking and how could they have goy it so wrong, an absolutely crap sound system all night, and a completely unexplained extended TV channel sponsor advert in the middle of the party - which only redeemed itself with the yummy boys on show.

Azure/Iris should publicly apologise for the mess they have made of this previously world class party. Last year they managed to get by on what was obviously a shoe string budget - this year they should have made more of an effort which they obviously did not, at least with the sound.

I guess this is what happens when private companies get their hands on our events - it is a reminder of why we must support NMG, who may not be perfect, but at least they are listening to the community and the membership and responding with innovative and creative events.
- Tue 2 Mar 2004 15:04:05

I'm really pissed off - why ? I decided to miss the Mardi Gras party this year and do just Azure as I've always had a great time there - I feel totally ripped off.

Sound - dreadful
Toilet Queues - shocking
Portaloos - a health hazard
Over Crowding - lost count of how many times I got pushed and trod on
Wayne G - euro-trash
Fashion Show - why why why ?

The only good thing I can say about the party was missing that it didn't rain and I got to meet up with people I haven't seen in ages.

IRIS Group - learn from the critism posted on this board:

Lose the main stage - previous parties have managed fine without it....invest the money in a producing a better sound quality....

Lets have some decent toilet facilities - whatever happened to the loos that actually have a cover over the 'pit' so that users don't get a face full of sickening fumes when they raise the toilet lid.....cost cutting on a cheaper model perhaps ?

Over Crowding - easy...sell less tickets.......give us somewhere to sit (the grass verge was perfect) this will stop people hanging around pathways. Bring back the tables and chairs that used to be where the stage was.....

Wayne G - nice bloke, but crap set. Invest in Sydney talent - there's loads of it around.....if he's playing that sort of music in London - imagine how disappointed all the lads and lasses visiting from London would've been to have heard that drivel.

Fashion Show....whatever - this is a dance party not Sydney Fasion Week...there's usually enough fashion mistakes on the dance floor without having to be subjected to it as a spectacle.....
Shame ! Shame ! Shame ! - Tue 2 Mar 2004 15:51:43

sorry, but that has got to be the most lame show i have ever seen. i had to ask 5 people around me what was going on and i WAS with it at that point. the clothes were not acredited in any way i could see, nor terribly interesting, and there was nothing to let me know it was for FOXTEL and promoting their program so seemed like a pretty ineffective way to advertise it...

it went on forever and was dull in terms of choreography for a show at such a prestigous event.

also, heard crystal waters was amazing (i left by 10.30 in disgust at the event - sound and music especially), so i am looking forward to catching her at mardi gras:) and also to experiencing a great event with some of our own stars on show, and some talented guests also in town - lisa german, crystal waters and the apparently amazing brissy dj kylie rose

just heard wayne g is going to be playing at the malcolm stewart party this week and could have cried. how many more bad performances does he need to do before customs deport him for inexcusable djing in a public space? isn't that a public disturbance or something Lol

ok, so the weekend starts on friday then:) can't wait
- Tue 2 Mar 2004 17:32:29

Sounds like you are saying that none of the gay & lesbian DJ's have talent. Pretty unconstructive remark, don't you think?
JK - Tue 2 Mar 2004 18:09:43

I guess this is what happens when private companies get their hands on our events - it is a reminder of why we must support NMG, who may not be perfect, but at least they are listening to the community and the membership and responding with innovative and creative events.
- Tue 2 Mar 2004 15:04:05"

From the Azure 2004 website:

"Importantly, Azure will remain a community fundraising event with the majority of the proceeds of the event going to the Gay and Lesbian Rights Lobby (GLRL).

?We are very aware of the importance of Azure as a source of funds for the Lobby and other community organisations and appreciate the importance of the stewardship responsibility that comes with this.? said Iris director, Jay Myers.

GLRL co-convenor Andrew Pickles said that the support to the Lobby meant continued pursuit of law reform and equality for gay and lesbian people.

Other beneficiaries will be Twenty10 Gay and Lesbian Youth Support and the Gay and Lesbian Counselling Service."

And of course, all funds will be disbursed through the AIDS Trust of Australia who also ran the Azure VIP tix thing.

Didn't it take forever for the GLRL to get their money out of the AIDS Trust last time? Maybe IRIS and the AIDS Trust have decided to get round that by jamming as many people on site as possible while spending as little as possible on entertaining them while they're there. Im not sure you can put it all down to "private companies."
- Tue 2 Mar 2004 18:55:19

He sure has!! He was one of the original DJ to set up Sublime (Pitt Street)... His happy go lucky attitude, great music range, and he knows how to get a party pumping..
Do we only need gay DJ's at our parties?? Shouldn't we get more outside the oxford street boundaries, and get some real talent......
Lovin' it - Tue 2 Mar 2004 09:32:54

Nik Fish used to be my absolute fav when I was young enough to go to raves.
I think booking the best DJ for the job is great, but also community groups supporting DJs from their own community is great too.
Commercial nights can afford to get the best in the biz others give newies a chance. Something for everyone, it's all good
looking forward to the big one - Wed 3 Mar 2004 00:42:48

While there have been lots of complaints re the sound, everyone said it was a friendly party... maybe something to do with the choice of music!!!!

If you have a gripe send it to the organisers or put your money and probably limited experience where you mouth is and orginaise your own party. Can't wait to see how it goes.
Glass half full not half empty - Wed 3 Mar 2004 00:43:21

I was not there on Sunday, but anyone who was, might wonder what medical facilities the producers put in place at the event for their safety.

One can only wonder why this experienced, volunteer team was not present at the party.

NMG WILL have the medical team at the mardi gras party. There will be over 60 volunteer nurses and doctors working a busy medical area, plus experienced rovers in every hall looking for people in trouble.

As for the toilets, producers pay for what they get. You can hire from nasty to lavish fresh water flush numbers, with options in between.
Sounds like they went for the nasty, cheap option.
hmmmn - Wed 3 Mar 2004 02:28:19

I think you mean INEPT private companies. Harbour Party was created and staged for six fabulous years by a private company, First Fleet, and nothing to do with MG organisers - in fact the first year MG even refused to include it in the MG Festival Guide.
- Wed 3 Mar 2004 09:13:11

and www.djwayneg.com/
- Wed 3 Mar 2004 09:40:14

That may well be what it's "supposed" to be about, but, on the overwhelming evidence here, "uplift" didn't happen. Your later suggestion - that if people can do better than IRIS they should - will hopefully be taken up. As I recall, IRIS originally got the Botanical Gardens site via a competitive tendering process. Hopefully, that process might have a different outcome next year. radens should t
- Wed 3 Mar 2004 09:46:09

We can write to Sydney Star observe or SX weekly gay publication first and start from there. We have untill next year for them to fix the problems.
- Wed 3 Mar 2004 09:46:10

We dont need any other DJ'S playing at our parties but our own, when will promoters ever learn, they are the reason ticket prices are so high, and they are the reason parties fall so flat. We dont need them when we have such wonderful talent here in Sydney, DJ"s that play the style we love so much, so stop insulting them. Alex Taylor, Jake Kilby, Luke Leal, Greg Boladian, Chip, Neal Crawford, hell the list goes on, they are the people we should be paying big money for for they are the DJ'S that have what it takes.
- Wed 3 Mar 2004 11:37:42

One can only wonder why this experienced, volunteer team was not present at the party.

NMG WILL have the medical team at the mardi gras party. There will be over 60 volunteer nurses and doctors working a busy medical area, plus experienced rovers in every hall looking for people in trouble.

hmmmn - Wed 3 Mar 2004 02:28:19

Just to defend the medical team - UniMed were on scene at Azure Party and they do a terrific job and do all the Queer Nation parties and are up on all the latest in drugs etc that people take and do not over-react to people over dosing. Unfortunately they were placed at the entrance so well removed from where any incident may occur.

In fact there is probably a list as long as a toilet roll of faults from the Azure Party many of which have already mentioned.
GG - Wed 3 Mar 2004 12:12:06

Hey, that’s naughty. If you want to comment, even if it’s just to slag off without saying anything constructive, at least sign your own name. If you dare.
And anyway, these things are only a matter of personal opinion and preference. Nothing more, nothing less.
jeffgg - Wed 3 Mar 2004 14:15:48

And if you can point me to a single comment on this board where I’ve suggested otherwise, I’ll apologise immediately and unconditionally.
It’s true that I’ve commented frequently on this issue – forgive me for being passionate. But I hope that in most cases I’ve been constructive, transparent, consistent and, wherever possible, positive.
Which is more than can be said for many of the pointless, negative, and mostly, anonymous comments posted here (which, for all we know, might all be posted by the same person!)
Pinkboard regulars will know that I’ve also made very positive comments about quite a few other DJs. I find it interesting that those comments are rarely criticised.
I’ll let the music, and the sea of smiling, happy faces do the talking from now on.
jeffgg (Mardi Gras is gonna be a BLAST!) - Wed 3 Mar 2004 18:29:58

And please guys (and girls), watch the G kids. Last Sunday's carnage was horrendous and a real slight on our community's ability to party safely.
Noisy Gypsy - Wed 3 Mar 2004 18:48:55

jeff's postings are always interesting reading, albeit it helps to read them on prozac to calm them down abit ;-) hehe

have heard dj josh play once at a party and to be honest the style of music sucked big time .... way too many big long silent sections leaving everyone on the dancefloor not knowing whether to applaud because she had finally finished her set or to just count time waiting for the track to start again ... it wasn't fun but just made the next dj more enjoyable .. oh well.
are u joshing? - Wed 3 Mar 2004 20:18:19

Space is spacious. The have a new air con. They have Tim, Paul and Rob. The profits go to the DJ's so on that alone, I'll be there.

QN is too crowded and too far off the strip. RESOLUTION gets my money.
deep cover - Wed 3 Mar 2004 23:24:33

"you have no idea who michael jordan or tiger woods are but are absolutely passionate about YOUR dj and will defend them with your life!"

i kinda like the voltaire-esque edge to that!

anyhow jefgg - i've heard dj josh a few times and haven't been disappointed. thought she was a bit flat at XTC - but will say, when she nails it, she totally hammers it (ooh err - a mixed metaphor of sorts).

as for "are you joshing" - that was my new years resolution this year! ie, to "work out what to do in the silent bits"! somebody suggested snogging whoever was next to me, but i am open to suggestions in the lead up to this weekend.

ta ta for now
Ms Golightly - Thu 4 Mar 2004 00:14:27

anywhere else we can see some more?
- Thu 4 Mar 2004 01:18:07

There are thousands upon thousands of queens who like cheesy music.

Might i refer you to all the huge amount of hype there is for the retro space at Mardi gras on Saturday. If you thought Wayne G was cheesy then just wait for Saturday i say. I C.A.N.T W.A.I.T !!!!!
choosy cheese always say cheese please when they choose the cheese in the cheeseburgers - Thu 4 Mar 2004 12:40:31

Don't blame it on sunshine
Don't blame it on moonlight
Don't blame it on good times
Blame it on the boogie
- Thu 4 Mar 2004 13:02:53

I was going to point people in the direction of some wonderful pictures i took at the Azure party but must have picked up the wrong pictures from the chemist shop.

All I have is a bunch pics showing these laughing greedy fat cat types rubbing their grubby hands together as they are depositing large sums of cash at the local bank.

Then theres a second set of prints of these same people in a travel agency buying 1st class round the world air tickets. I have no idea who these people are.

I went back to the chemist and was told that my pictures had gone to the person whose pictures I had.

Could a Mrs IRIS PRODUCTIONS please contact me at the below email address to arrange a swap?

Thanks and have a great day
rippedoff@azure.com.au - Thu 4 Mar 2004 13:38:28

Yes, how true. Please mainstream music lovers acknowledge that there are also thousands of queens who hate cheesy music, just as you hate to hear anything but cheesy music. We deserve a chance to enjoy what is one of the premier events of the year too. Surely a mix of music would be good, or... if prioritising anyone but the regular ARQ clubber happy seems proposterous, then a return to the 2 space setup, where the smaller setup would be placed near the upper toilets / cloakroom would be a really wonderful idea.

Q - How many drag queens and Whitney fans does it take to change a lightbulb?
groaning still - Thu 4 Mar 2004 14:15:22

Have fun & be safe.
Boogie Boy - Thu 4 Mar 2004 14:47:14

You Sir are way off the mark. I fully understand your disappointment but you have failed to take into account these factors -

1. Mardi Gras announced a number of months ago that sell out was 17,000. Its a limit set upon them by Fox Studios and has absolutely NOTHING to do with underselling to guarantee a sell out. there simply isnt any more tickets to "be put out" unless Fox Studios allow it. Dont hold your breath !!

2. Mardi Gras has had tickets on sale for months including an early bird discounted special. Where the hell were you then or were you so cocky that you simply couldnt believe a sell out was possible ?

I feel ZERO sympathy for people like you who were either so disorganised or thought you could waltz in at the last minute to buy a ticket whenever it suited you rather than buying a ticket when Mardi Gras needed you most when the early bird special was on.

To all the people who missed out I say that I'm am sorry you wont be attending however I hope you've all learnt a valuable lesson from your lethargy. Maybe next year you wont be so reckless.
Aiden - Thu 4 Mar 2004 20:20:20

Maybe people that missed out should've been a little more organised. Tickets have been on sale for quite some time.
Josh - Thu 4 Mar 2004 21:01:02

You guys certainly make some very valid points, but likewise, some people may not have been able to afford to buy their ticket until this payday perhaps? I wouldn't really like to take pleasure in someone missing out just because they are on a tight budget. I'm sure there's still plenty of fun to be had along the strip anyway for those who couldn't get a ticket by today.
- Thu 4 Mar 2004 21:25:11

Fox restricts the number of people permitted onsite against the pavilions hired - 6, 000 max capacity Hordern, 10,000 max capacity RHI plus a minimum of 1,000 elsewhere. 17,000 has been advertised as the sellout max for the entire 3 months that tix have been on sale. It's not MG's fault that you don't have a ticket - don't blame them.

In my experience if you want a ticket you can normally pick one up. Ask around, check the Star and SX, check the Pinkboard classifieds, gym noticeboards etc, etc - just don't - whatever you do - pay more than the face value of the ticket price and MAKE SURE IT'S LEGIT. There'll also be a restricted number on sale on the night of the party but you'll have to get there early - and queue.
- Thu 4 Mar 2004 21:29:45

For people paid fortnightly there's been around 12 paydays since tix went on sale and for people who are unwaged, concession tix have been on sale throughout. I wouldn't give up just yet. Hundreds of tix change hands in the last 24 hours or so. Keep an eye out and don't pay more than the ticket face value.
- Thu 4 Mar 2004 21:40:16

You dont get it do you ?

There are NO more tickets to sell. I'm sure Mardi gras would love to sell another one or two thousand more tickets - THEY CANT ! ITS SOLD OUT !!!

17,000 is the allowable capacity by Fox Studios. Begging and whinging wont make any more tickets appear out of thin air.

I suggest you start to consider where else you intend to party at on Saturday night
- Fri 5 Mar 2004 08:56:38

I don't think its Mardi Gras' fault about the number of tickets. See the earlier posts RE the capacity of the venue. If Mardi Gras sold more tickets than the valid capacity of the venue and an incident occured (Say someone got crushed in a crowd surge) nothing would save NMG from the lawsuits.
Scalpers will always be around like a bad smell - Fri 5 Mar 2004 09:00:56

what tosh! if you wanted a ticket "at face value" you've had months to get one. It's the day before the party and you're griping. Jeez. Go spend the night at Palms.....it's free.
- Fri 5 Mar 2004 11:20:01

Someone will miss out people will buy tix early next year. in another words I think lots of staights are going but it doesn't worry me , at least they buy early and saved our MG.
spunky boy - Fri 5 Mar 2004 15:07:46

That includes me. I am not going and I am extremely upset by this.
deep cover - Fri 5 Mar 2004 15:09:02

Luke Fry and I will be spinning funky house anthems to keep you bouncing through the morning.

Hope to see you there!
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Dan Murphy - Fri 5 Mar 2004 15:55:27

I watched from the balcony for a long time and can now appreciate what a difference a good lighting jockey can make. Campbell enhanced the tracks with his light & laser combinations and it’s the first time it’s really made an impression on me.

Fortunately, there was a noticeable absence of Celine!
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Dan Murphy - Fri 5 Mar 2004 16:06:01

But Deep darling.....tickets have been on sale for months! At least 4 months by my reckoning.....thats about 17 weeks....$10 saved over 9 weeks would have bought you a ticket if cash is short - so in essence, you could've bought a ticket 8 weeks ago.....

But don't worry darl.....I ain't going either...maybe we can get together and rub pennies together !
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- Fri 5 Mar 2004 17:25:33

I dont agree with you one little bit. Your comments stating this party as being poorly organised is an insult to NMG who have done a brilliant job marketing this party - It has sold out hasn't it ??

It was you that was poor organised and your comments ring of sour grapes.

I'm glad you got a ticket but I'll be even glader if you stop whining and get your act together better next year !
Aiden - Fri 5 Mar 2004 18:57:50

Darl, I'm glad you got a ticket, but please:

Neither MG - nor anyone else - is allowed to exceed the legally permitted onsite maximum. it's - against - the - law.......the party could be shutdown by the licensing police if numbers are exceeded.

Tix have been on sale for 3 (count'em) whole months

This is NOT a case of a "a badly organised party." It's a case of badly organised queens.

I've got zilch sympathy frankly. Running round blaming MG is about the most pointless response I can imagine.
- Fri 5 Mar 2004 19:31:32

hear hear. i've never heard so much rubbish in my life. I just wonder about these people who say they couldn't afford a ticket until today...maybe if they'd gone without ONE night out in the past three months they would have been able.
- Fri 5 Mar 2004 20:57:57

1. It is totally my fault, I accept that.
2. I found going to tiketech or whatever you call them, awkward. What's wrong with ye olde toolshed, eh? wouldn't they love the extra business? or the bookshop or perhaps other stores on the strip. Would've been better for the local shopkeepers for a start. management headache but better for the community supporters - but what do I know?!
3. I am diagnosed non-medicated ADHD. Freaks like us never get anything done until the last minute.
4. I want to find out who my friends are. It's times like this I learn alot - I probably put myself here for that reason, subconsciously, maybe. I'm a bit wierd like that.
5. I ran out of money 2 weeks ago.
6. Life is in a state of chaos

All I wanted to do was to see the DJ's that I love so much, playing to a large crowd.

BUT I have my RESOLUTION ticket and that's very good news. At least someone wants me, eh? ;)
why some of us idiots miss out - Fri 5 Mar 2004 21:01:36

Oh honey I know just what you mean. I'll think of you when I'm in the thick of it at 3.30am in the Hordern. But for now it's beddie byes.
if you're looking for sympathy, you'll find it in the dictionary - Sat 6 Mar 2004 03:11:06

I certainly do. Before the site was redeveloped Mardi Gras was licensed for 21,000. The number has come down due to reconfiguration/less space being utilised. But in 98, MG oversold heavily (plus ran 1000's of comps) and no fewer than 28,000 people jammed the site. It was impossible to move freely anywhere - inside or out - and queues for getting in and out of pavilions were hideous.

17,000 is a much more manageable number. It allows maximum fun combined with ease of crowd flow. Enjoy!
- Sat 6 Mar 2004 08:44:09

The turnout was huge, the music was pumping with Mike Kelly and Dan Murphy, the shows were extravagant, and the atmosphere was just brilliant!

A big thanks to all of the guys at Velocity Inc and City of Sydney for working so hard to make this happen! It's great to see that even after two failed events, you've still got the energy and the drive to put hours of effort into providing this necessary space for the youths. Congrats!
go the Velocity Crew!! - Sat 6 Mar 2004 09:24:44

I'm glad Velocity went off. Well done!

And as for the people who didn't get tickets because of lack of money, that's only one of the benefits of doing vollie work: cheaper ticket. NMG were short of vollies this year. You would have had no problem getting a gig. But keep asking around your friends. Someone who knows someone with a spare. That's how I got my first MG party ticket in a sell out year (paid normal price for it too, thank you matey!).

HAPPY MARDI GRAS!
Evil Twin - Sat 6 Mar 2004 10:41:29

You still just don't get it do you? Legally, they sold the most that they can. You are the only person to blame and I praise NMG for selling out. Mg and Sleaze used to sell out all the time.

Everyone has made their comments in reply to yours so I'd just be repeating them, and quite frankly, it sounds like nothing anybody is going to say is going to teach you anything. You have it in your head that someone other than you is to blame and that is the way it is going to stay. Hopefully now that you have a ticket, you will stop complaining and try to enjoy yourself.
- Sat 6 Mar 2004 13:15:47

The venue, Victoria Park Pool, looked great, and the kids had a ball (especially the fully-clothed in-pool dancers who couldn't get enough)! Nice to see so many happy faces at a drug free event, and people so grateful that they had an event presented for them.

I know Dan and i had a great time... see you tonight:)

Big thanks Velocity, and City Of Sydney
Mike - Sat 6 Mar 2004 13:20:20

No, thank you for the positive feedback.
As an altenative to Mardi Gras tonight Feisty, Myself and Mandy rollins will be playing some seriously sexy, dirty, tribal/prog/house filth at The Phoenix Bar.
The night is called Ritual and is only $7 to get in. Doors oen from 9pm-late.

Rock out with your cock out!
neal crawford - Sat 6 Mar 2004 14:37:04

Of course you would say that, you dirty old man, lol!
JK - Sat 6 Mar 2004 14:41:25

Jake Kilby. You'll get yours.

You just wait till tonight. Your gonna pay dearly for that remark !!
Stephen Blomfield - Sat 6 Mar 2004 14:45:33

The rest of the Velocity crew have done a great job over the past year. But our hours of hard work has paid off. It was well worth the effort.

Great Party!
marshall - Sat 6 Mar 2004 14:55:42

UniMed do have a tonne of experience at major dance parties like Field Day, Transmission, Harbourlife, Parklife and others - as has been mentioned the people who do medical for Queer Nation also volunteer for UniMed and were at Azure. UniMed is up on the issues and has good lines of communication with with people like ACON, NDARC and St Vincent's to ensure that they are up on the scene and have good links to the community. They are also involved in research and other best practice initiatives. They have worked on the same site as Azure for straight events and know they layout and are comfortable with the size of the event.

No one is doubting that MG Medical have a great reputation, and much of the ground work for best practice in dance party medical management has been laid down by this organisation, but there can also be more than one good medical provider in the world. Give some credit where it is due, this isn't some fly by night operator, UniMed are a dedicated bunch of volunteers who work very hard to make dance parties and other events safe.
- Sun 7 Mar 2004 10:10:11

Luv, Gray
Gray - Sun 7 Mar 2004 18:32:57

Firstly I must thank Harbour City Bears themselves for asking me to play at this event. To take a chance on a newbie DJ for a high profile event such as this, was a big risk for them.

Next the staff and crew of the Midnight Shift itself. Everyone from the managers to the bar staff were friendly and helpful, making it a really fun experience to play there. A very big thanks must go to Alex for the sensational light show. During Ray Of Light in my set, I was in the DJ booth totally amazed at the show he put on for us. Since then I've had so many of the bears comment on the lights across the entire night and in particular the lighting for that track. Thanks Alex.

Then we come to Mark Alsop, Seymour Butts and Paul Mac. Firstly thanks to the guys for helping me overcome my nerves, this was the biggest thing I've done so far as a DJ and I was starting to get nervous more than a week before the event but you guys made me feel so at ease.

I then have to mention the sensational sets these guys played. Once I finished my set, I launched myself onto the dancefloor and was the last person to leave the floor at the end of the night. Mark played an absolute blinder of a set and had the entire place rocking from start to finish, well done mate.Then came Seymour and Paul together to take us home and they did this in style.
I was sorry that closing time came around so soon.

Finally to the crowd themselves, well over 400 bears and friends. Loved seeing you guys having a ball to my music and the ovation you gave me when I finished was something I will never forget! I haven't heard any negative comments about the night from anyone that was there or even via second hand gossip and that is a rare thing indeed.

Having been to and DJ'd at functions for the Bears before, I can safely say this was the best ever. I'm very proud to have been part of a night like this.
Shanobear - Mon 8 Mar 2004 09:24:46

I think the points being made are not about UniMed but about the overall organisation of the parties. It is the responsibility of the organisors to take an holistic approach to making sure parties patrons are safe, and that is as what seemed lacking at Azure.

Hiring a medical team is not all it takes. I note that NMG had adverts about G in the paper, supported by ACON and venues and DJ's, asking people to consider the consequences. There was also stricter door searches and drug rovers and the drug overdose issues were considered and mitigated at every level in the organisation.

This is the sense of community responsibility that seemed non existent in most aspects of Azure - profits rule for commercial operations!

I hear the MG Party had 3 ambulances - over 12 hours with 17000 punters. Azure had 10 ambulances, over 8 hours with 5000 attendees. Go figure.
- Mon 8 Mar 2004 11:01:19

Highlight of the night was when security came into the mens toilets and asked 'us men' not to have sex on the upper level as they had already had to throw someone out they had caught in flagrante ! He didn't say we could have sex on the dancefloor, so I did.

DJ wuck-up of the night - playing Whitney Houston - at a leather party - hilarious !
Josh - Tue 9 Mar 2004 14:56:37

Gurlesque's House of Ill Fame at the Imperial!! It went off!
- Wed 10 Mar 2004 09:51:14

Ear Pimp Music presents
Christa Hughes & The Surgeons
'Sleepless Beauty'
Album Launch, Concert and Party

Featuring Christa Hughes & The Surgeons performing selections from the album live!
MC/DJ Jay Katz (Sounds of Seduction)
DJ Lanny K (Hellfire, Ear Pimp)
PLUS a Bikini Parade competition - bring your best two-piece for a battle of the boobs!

Machine Gun Fellatio's Christa Hughes (aka K. K. Juggy) joins forces with Michael Lira(Darth Vegas, Vicious Hairy Mary), Svetlana Bunic (Monsieur Camembert) and Neil Duncan (Darth Vegas) for a live performance of tracks from their new CD "Sleepless Beauty".

This is a record launch with a difference!

Entry to the launch party includes your very own copy of the album to take away at the end of the night ... so why buy it in the shops when you can have your cake and eat it too!

"Sleepless Beauty" is the stage show developed by Christa & The Surgeons in 2002. It played seasons at The Studio at Sydney Opera House, the Adelaide Cabaret Festival and the Melbourne Fringe Festival to rave reviews, before Ear Pimp Music offered them trinkets and lollies to go into the recording studio and commit the soundtrack to posterity.

Eighteen months later, this epic album is finally ready to be launched onto an unsuspecting public.

Think of Nino Rota being mugged by Frank Zappa and The Residents on their way to a death metal concert, and you begin to get a hint of the crazy, f**ked-up musical eclecticism on this album. From smoky cabaret jazz to cu/t n' paste stylistic mash-ups, the 17 tracks on the CD form a musical journey that will leave you breathless.

Virtuoso musicianship from The Surgeons paired with the mighty lungs of one of this country's great female voices are a combination to die for ... especially when performing such an incredible array of original compositions.

You've never heard anything like this before. It's that good.

But don't just take my word for it, come and see for yourself as they perform the songs live, and go home with the totally gorgeous CD to keep.

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Craig D. from Ear Pimp - Wed 10 Mar 2004 11:13:06

club kooky on sunday was really great, as was ben drayton @ phoenix.
- Wed 10 Mar 2004 13:01:12

as all of our international (& some interstate) guests ~that I spoke to~ were returning on the 9th of March - holiday packages ought to extend at least another week, travel agents -- add to that NO public holiday on Monday.

All the same, I would have been there if it weren't for unforseen circumstances.
- Thu 11 Mar 2004 10:38:47

Say its not so, why is it so hard to et definitive info from LP on this
- Thu 11 Mar 2004 15:28:16

loose leather men and women are let lose to cook your goose, and wrap you in a noose and to give you lots of abuse.... there will be no truce, so get ready to make some juice:)
- Thu 11 Mar 2004 21:58:58

Any ideas on dates please - JK ?????
Gayboi - Fri 12 Mar 2004 11:18:34

Does anyone know anything about it?
- Fri 12 Mar 2004 12:57:20

BACK ALLEY BEATS (opening next Friday 19 March)

STEPHEN ALLKINS & BEN DRAYTON

9PM - 6AM
$10 from 11pm

$3 schooners til midnight

ARQ SYDNEY!!!
- Fri 12 Mar 2004 14:17:39

For F--ks sake. They need to be more regular than that !
Gayboi - Fri 12 Mar 2004 16:14:20

Also, just found out that party is only happening over one and not two levels, effectively only half the size.
- Fri 12 Mar 2004 17:35:31

I thought that the last Wet Pussy is on 19 March with the new night starting the following week. Can anyone confirm??
- Fri 12 Mar 2004 18:44:03

It attracts a range of guys and girls from the hospitality and club industries. Also those starting off their morning with a drink and a free game of pool, and of course clubbers for whom Friday night doesn’t stop when the sun comes up.

DJ’s Dan Murphy & Luke Fry spin uplifting house anthems in a relaxed and friendly atmosphere.
bgeorge - Fri 12 Mar 2004 19:41:11

Just heard on the rumour mill that INQUISITION is back at City Live (Stage 11) this year, YUK! (a really inappropriate venue for this party..)

Will be heading to Melbourne for BEYOND instead!
- Fri 12 Mar 2004 22:38:04

If you fax through a ticket order it will be picked up and processed, then you get a phone call about how to pick it up. Info is on the Carnal page on the website
Lil - Fri 12 Mar 2004 23:39:16

As we put the finishing touches to the launch of Perv Dance 'the dance event for real deviants". We're happy to announce that tickets are now available at Karnal Leather, Sax Fetish, Gallery Serpentine & Reactor Rubber. $40 + b/f or $45 on door.

Going off on Saturday 3rd April, @ Hyde Park Bar (formerly the Globe) cnr Park & Elizabeth St, City form 10pm-6am

The event covers two fetish filled floors -

Kick'n us off in the basement bar are some of your underground favourites Dj's: Feisty, Sveta & Mark Murphy.

And within the plush surroundings of the funk'd up lounge you'll find ample seating to relax and chill, or dance to up and coming dj's Doctor Jane & Dayla.

Pervy Performances - Zoo: Temple Whore, for a truly irreverant pervy performance, Image Projection by Garth Knight and more!

Fetish Dress Code Applies

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PERVPlay - Saturday 1st May

Perv Play membership is now open, for a limited period only - to print of your membership application form - use the following link www.pervevents.com/membership_form.htm
The Perv Team - Sat 13 Mar 2004 01:54:47

First Saturday in March but, if you want to avoid the whole thing, you'll have to consider taking most of February off as well. I hear that Tassie goes off in February.
- Sat 13 Mar 2004 10:55:26

Good to see pre-school attitutdes are still alive and well in the community!
- Sat 13 Mar 2004 13:07:42

I'll sort it out with LP which is open for ticket collection next Saturdayy morning. Thanks for clarification anyway!!!
Chris - Sat 13 Mar 2004 15:07:24

+ I vote *Yes* to Inq @ the Whoreden
Mr Panties - Sat 13 Mar 2004 17:57:50

I still had so much to say !!!!

oh well :/
- Sat 13 Mar 2004 20:06:02

sorry but i really disagree, both rob davis and mike kelly have been on fire at the last few indulgence parties and not one person i spoke to enjoyed the way mandy rollins played at the last one, though a few said she started really well nye then fizzed. put on these guys for inquisition as they are a great team.
cocker - Sat 13 Mar 2004 23:49:40

They're so popular yet we only get about three a year.

I can't wait till May for another one. Bring them on monthly I say !
Gayboi - Sun 14 Mar 2004 09:50:09

I am to understand that the Midnight Shift is not allowing GAY or RUBY to use the club as a venue for future parties - thus the large gap between parties i.e. trying to find another suitable venue.
Josh - Sun 14 Mar 2004 11:55:19

If what you say is true then its a total tragedy !!
Gayboi - Sun 14 Mar 2004 12:23:28

Good move I say! Bring back the civic!
- Sun 14 Mar 2004 13:30:13

Dear Perv Team,

Despite repeated attempts I am unable to access your link www.pervevents.com/membership_form.htm nor www.pervevents.com

Please get your web mistress/master out of the dungeon and onto the 'puter!
Wannaperv - Sun 14 Mar 2004 16:18:45

would love to see a real, gay event at tank - the best venue (when the crowd is selected) in sydney, second best in Oz after Family in brisbane
- Sun 14 Mar 2004 20:26:03

Rob and Mike are certainly good at what they do, but for mine no one does dark and dirty like Mandy Rollins. Personally I find Rob and Mike a little on the light side musically. My night at Indulgence picked up once Mandy started playing - that's when the mood got really sexy and dirty. Judging from the number of OS boys who asked me who she was, Mandy was certainly getting their attention. She has my vote for sure. Bring on Inquisition!
Jono - Sun 14 Mar 2004 21:45:40

--I'll take couple of EacH, thanks
- Sun 14 Mar 2004 22:44:37

Master now out of the dungeon and the following links work

http://www.pervevents.com/membership_form.htm for PERVPlay membership info

and http://www.pervevents.com/ for the full low down on Perv Events

Or e-mail james@pervevents.com
James - Mon 15 Mar 2004 08:24:06

Hasnt anybody got something interesting to discuss ???
- Mon 15 Mar 2004 08:44:09

This is known as post-MG depression. Nobody can bring themselves to talk without quietly sobbing. Everyone will be fine again by Easter.
- Mon 15 Mar 2004 11:48:15

Could not agree more. Looking at some of Sydneys best DJs websites it seems that more and more of them are being put off by the clubs. We need to open new venues and keep these talented people working. Sydney produces the best DJ's in Australia and a number of world class acts as well yet our scene is dying. We need more venues and quickly.
- Mon 15 Mar 2004 15:37:35

I can't go into too much detail about my situation, as my court case begins later this month.

Basically, demo CD's are highly illegal. No matter if you only give out a few copies, no matter if you have "for promotional use only, not for resale" printed on it, no matter if you are charging for them or giving them out for free, they are illegal.

In my current situation, my lawyer is looking into the implications of me recording and supplying a demo CD for future MG and Sleaze parties and it is possible that I will not be able to do so. I fear that as the recording industry cracks down further on piracy laws that it will no longer become legal for any DJ to submit a demo CD, even for the likes of MG/Sleaze.

The recording industry is trying to deter people from downloading music and from making illegal copies of CD's. In order to do this, they are trying to make examples of high profile people, such as DJ's. This is a terrible mistake. They are biting the hands that feed them as DJ's are one of the strongest promotional tools a record company has, and generally the promotion they get is for free. For them, this is simply a PR campaign and a very bad one at that.

I have never downloaded a single track in my life. I spend an astronomical amount of money on music. I support Australian artists and I support the industry. Yet, due to one incident in which I didn't do enough research before committing myself to a project, they are determined to use me as an example of their determination. I can tell you, it is very disheartening and I have felt like throwing it all in at times.

My situation has been going on for nearly a year and I'm hoping it will be over soon either way. All I can do is give my advice to any DJ's out there thinking of giving out demo CD's: DON'T!

Kylie Rose, it is with great spirit that you offer to give demo CD's to your fans, but I strongly advise you not to. Please, take it from someone who is experiencing first hand the Australian recording industry's careless single mindedness.

It won't mean jack to the record companies involved, but I take comfort in the fact that certain record companies will get no further free promotion from me. I just simply will not play their releases any longer.
JK - Mon 15 Mar 2004 22:13:46

Arq were simply respecting the ladies already there and that's not a bad thing.

But I agree: we need more venues!!
- Mon 15 Mar 2004 22:52:18

From a personal point of view, I use downloads as a way a preview. If I like the track I will hunt it down and buy it legally, sometimes at enourmous expense.

However I do know of a person who uses nothing but downloaded music. Their attitude is why pay for it when you can get it free. This person recently has taken a couple of gigs off me in my regular venue and I feel slightly cheated by trying to do the legal thing.

On other occasions I have tried to approach some record labels direct to try to buy rare or older tracks only to be told they were no longer available, and in one instance waited for 6 months while the company said they were getting the track to me only to be told at the end that they couldn't supply it. I was able to download it that afternoon in 20 minutes (but have never played it at any club).

Thankfully some record labels are progressive and enjoy working with DJ's but two of the major ones are ancient dinosaurs who staunchly refuse to move into the 21st century.

Almighty Records would have to be one of the most helpful and forward thinking labels around at the moment. Currently they are working on having legal downloads by the end of the year and offer more services to make things easier for us who want to play thier music.

Like JK, I'm leaning more towards the companies that will work with me rather than those who work against DJs.
- Tue 16 Mar 2004 06:48:19

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countdownboy - Tue 16 Mar 2004 07:53:28

Please tell me this is not the case!! Ruby at the shift works really well, if it's moved it may flop... and then there's another party gone!!

Surely the venue must make profits from a Ruby/G.A.Y party?

Can anyone please advise...
Shift...Yes please... - Tue 16 Mar 2004 08:07:42
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In essence, no it's not. It's illegal to offer public goods and services on the basis of a specific gender only, unless the provider has a specific exemption to do so. Most venues get round this, in the sense of girl's nights or guy's nights, by using various strategies like "private party," dress restrictions, etc, etc. Sex on site venues sometimes use implied private membership (your entry fee makes you a member) to get round it.

I think most people in our community would accept that there's a place for "girl's own" and "guy's own" nights. Whether they work or not is really up to market forces.
- Tue 16 Mar 2004 09:39:01

I think all Sydney Club DJ's should ban together and fight these moronic record companies.

I think its time the companies involved were named , is this possibly JK ?

I think all Sydney DJ's should boycott all product from the record companies that are trying to screw with our talented DJ's
- Tue 16 Mar 2004 09:56:07

I'm with you on this. Although I do not download myself, I do get given CD's with downloads on them. I am one of these people who needs to own an original copy of something, cover and all, so if I like a track I get given on a CD, I go out and buy it. If I don't like a track, I don't play it and I don't buy it, so no harm done. I am also concerned with quality and downloaded music just doesn't cut it.

There are very few tracks I have on CD's that are downloads people have given me that I will actually play. I only play these tracks because they simply are not available at all. Too many record companies commission a producer to do a remix of a song, and the they decide not to release that song at all.

I think its time the companies involved were named , is this possibly JK ?
I think all Sydney DJ's should boycott all product from the record companies that are trying to screw with our talented DJ's
- Tue 16 Mar 2004 09:56:07

At this stage I'd rather not discuss the record companies in question. Like I said, my case goes before the courts later this month and I don't want to jeopardise it at all.

I like your way of thinking though. Unfortunately, as much as most DJ's in this town do support each other and band together, I don't think all DJ's would band together and boycott certain labels. There is too much good music coming out of some of them and DJ's wouldn't want to stop playing certain tracks that are dancfloor rippers. I wouldn't ask them to.

Unfortunately, record companies hold the power. They have the money. We are just the little men. One day it will all blow up in their faces though, and that is a sweet thought.

Apparantly George Michael has stated that his new album will be his last commercially released album. He said he doesn't need the money from consumers and he doesn't need the politics of record companies. In future, he wants to have a website where people can download his new recordings for free, with the option of a donation (probably to a worthy cause like AIDS, I would say). If more recording artists would do this, who would need record companies? Bring on the future, I say.
JK - Tue 16 Mar 2004 11:19:04

I'm not sure that there are "lots of boys venues" - at least in a pub/club sense. "Manacle" is the only bar that does "boys only" in Sydney and they're also running mixed nights. Sydney has certainly tried girls only venues but the customer base doesn't seem to sustain them. It's pretty much the same the whole world over. There seems to be something about the ways - and numbers - in which lesbians socialize that seems to fit more closely with the one-off night arrangement rather than the continuing dedicated space. Maintaining a club/bar in profit is a risky business. It's highly competitve, overheads are huge
and failure is much more likely than success. Most start-ups fail within 12 months of opening. I suspect that the reason there isn't a girls-only venue is directly related to all the above.
- Tue 16 Mar 2004 11:52:59

As always you have my full support possum! The music copyright argument reared it’s ugly head on the Mardi Gras wall shortly before it was closed down. I didn’t get a chance to answer some of the questions posed by pink-boarders and fellow DJ’s. It’s all about lack of education. As with most laws in Australia you don’t know you have broken them or that they existed until you have been charged with an offence.

You would have to be blind to miss the coverage that copyright laws have received in the media across the last 6 months. Many people would blame the likes of Napster and the MP3 revolution for all the increased attention, but nothing has changed with respect to the laws themselves or the amount of material illegally copied by the public.

Technology has advanced so much so that anyone can copy a cd compress it’s format and email it to the four corners of the earth in a matter of minutes. DJ’s are at fault too. Recently there was a case of two or three (not sure of exact details) bedroom DJ’s doing some funky things with tracks and posting them on a web server for all to enjoy. Great promotion of the artists (DJ’s) skills and talent however the record companies didn’t get one shilling of thanks. So they had them arrested and charged.

Should DJ’s be given different rights from end users? Should DJ’s pay a set royalty fee for a limited number of promotional copies of music? These are all valid points of contention that should be raised in a forum between APRA and DJ’s and The Record Companies. How could this be achieved (Not Sure) but I know people are interested in seeing this occur.
Ryan Murphy - Tue 16 Mar 2004 12:06:23

As for APRA - now there's steam shooting out my ears (insert picture here). APRA are just not relevant - how many trance tracks get released by Australian record companies at the time you want to play them? It's even worse with progressive house / tribal house, nothing gets released in Australia, so why should APRA enjoy anthing. I'm happy that the cost that I pay for vinyl (which is exorbitant as next to nothing gets pressed here either) goes to the overseas artists whoever that made the record. APRA should get nothing as Australia has contributed very little - apart from the hardworking guys & gals in my local shop.

DJs should get paid more, they should not pay more, and definitely not to Australian record companies.

(PS - DJs should also pay for what they play, agree that paying downloaded tracks is not very proper.

Breath in, breathe out, breath in etc.
RG - Tue 16 Mar 2004 13:11:57

Sorry, I didnt mean to sound like all the boy bars were "boys only", just that there were many bars in Oxford st and Newtown which were predominantly patronised by guys, with usually only a smattering of women.

Surely tho, with all the pockets of women frequenting these bars, getting them all into one place would be viable, even though there are many variations in taste.

I know of two bars which were long term dyke pubs - the Cricketers Arms and the Leichhardt (showing my age) - which survived for years. They were daggy as hell sure, but it doesnt hurt to hope that one day, some amazingly rich person will open a pub where girls can pop in and always be assured that there will be other girls there.

I mean, the wedneday nights at the Bank have been going for yonks - that can't be the only night of the week these girls wanna party??
- Tue 16 Mar 2004 13:13:17

I guess they'd have to be stupendously rich - and prepared to lose quite a bit of it :). Most gay bars/clubs make their money on 2 - maybe 3 - trading nights max. You can go anywhere in the world - even the hottest places - and have a chat about it with the underemployed barperson on a slow Monday night....The trick is to balance your less profitable nights with your most profitable in order to provide a continuing service - as far as possible - while minimising your losses.

Dykes seem not to achieve the same critical mass of determined pub/club goers as gay guys do. It may have something to do with the way gay men have traditionally
used bars/clubs; i.e. it probably has as much to do with sex as it does with socialising. Dykes seem less driven by the Big Rooter Chalk-Up Hunt than gay guys do. I get the impression that dykes are more interested in socialising for it's own sake and that doesn't seem to produce the same consistent bar/club volume uptake as it does for guys.
- Tue 16 Mar 2004 14:14:47

I agree with you, I dont have a problem paying for tracks. I have even spent 60 pounds + P&H for one track! APRA is a big issue here... agreed.

Perhaps industry reform is needed! I know Jake would like to be the first guest speaker.
Ryan Murphy - Tue 16 Mar 2004 15:14:42

btw- rob davis bangs it, and mike kelly slams it, even though their styles are light as well as dark, i find them more fun to dance to
cocker - Tue 16 Mar 2004 18:16:13

The company I work for full time is a legal policy & lobbying group and we spend a lot of time and effort preparing submissions for panels relating to civil justice to consider. It is great for our association that we get asked to comment on the issues that have expertise in.

This idea would be great for the recording industry and DJ's Unfortunately, I can't see it happening. The recording industry like their rules and the big bucks they make by enforcing them. So much could be achieved if they worked in conjunction with DJ's. Like I said earlier, DJ's offer widespread free promotion of their material. They should be encouraging this relationship, not destroying it by using DJ's as examples.

If someone knew how to get the ball rolling on an open forum with DJ's and record companies, I'd welome it. Unfortunately, I'm a little bitter towards record companies myself at the moment, so I can't see me contacting them to discuss anything. I'd be there withe bells on to put in my two cents worth if it was to occur though.
JK - Tue 16 Mar 2004 20:19:38

regarding the recorded music industry having outdated operating procedures; as a consumer of recorded music i get pissed that when I find a mix of a track I really like it is 99% guaranteed that I either won't be able to purchase this mix at all in Australia, and more often than not can't purchase it anywhere in the world. Whilst it annoys me to pay the exhorbitant cost of purchasing a track from overseas if it is available, I will do so just for the fidelity of sound from the original recording. However, if a product isn't available for purchase through any legitimate source, is downloading a facsimile (mp3 files are NEVER a copy of an original recording due to the very nature of the compression; they are a mere approximation) of the track violating anyone's right to a royalty when the recording companies have withdrawn the possibility of any royalty being made available to the original artists?
royalty flush - Wed 17 Mar 2004 01:33:24

Arq tried what they thought the girls wanted and now they are moving on. I hope we see a mix of both for the next Friday format. Ben Drayton's Phoenix exposure may add another dimension.

II wait with anticipation.
the politcs of dancing - Wed 17 Mar 2004 02:34:35

Hmmm... I hear you guys, but believe it or not, we do have the venues, but unfortunately, some of these venues have opted for Juke Boxes as a substitute.

The sad thing about this, is that in some of these venues, the price you pay for a drink is supposed to cover for entertainment, yet you’re still expected to insert a coin in the Juke Box to be entertained.

My personal opinion is that Juke Boxes are great when there is not a DJ in the house, but then again, you only have to look at the Stonewall (lower level) to see that it's virtually New Years Eve every night when the Juke Box is at its peak! Same can be said for the Shift (downstairs), the Newtown and the Imperial.

However, on the other hand, can we blame the Juke Box for the quiet Friday and Saturday nights its been having these past few months?

Once again, with Panthers permission, I would like to invite Pinkboard visitors and its regulars to my website, and take part in a poll regarding this topic.

www.djjustinscott.com
JS - Wed 17 Mar 2004 08:46:43

I'd like to think they have a contingency plan over the busy MG period.

...and what's all this about 'women only mate'.....since when did Arq insist on 'Men Only' nights.....
- Wed 17 Mar 2004 09:07:24

What an offensive personal attack on one of the most respected people in our community.

My opinion, of course.
Respect - Wed 17 Mar 2004 09:45:03

Just add an S and you have MANNERS.Umm..... :)
MR fan - Wed 17 Mar 2004 10:14:39

Rude? Yes.

The majority of punters would have the common scene not to go or stay at a venue that has a DJ playing music they don't like.

I also find it funny that when a party committee is about to announce DJs for the next big party in this town one or two people start this bashing.

Constructive criticism is fine but some comments, in my opinion are just why off the mark.

Sounds like one or two people are jealous of others success.
- Wed 17 Mar 2004 11:12:04

I am glad for your success but really, saying a dJ has very little of the talent of a producer is a bit near-sighted given the skills of djs at the moment...

how many producers actually play live EVER? how many of them can regularly turn up and turn it on like a dj? how many producers actually produce well?

sorry but just making tracks that sound like everyone else's and repeat 4 track 4/4 formulas and contemporary norms does not reflect a whole lot of genius.

there ARE loads of talented exceptions and perhaps you're one of them, but you make the same stereotypes of djs so there's one for you.

also, for some djs a studio mix is a chance to show their more producer-like qualities and to showcase some of the sounds that make them more innovative than possible in the limiting club settings - ie play tunes that are more intelligent or demonstrate more skill in the re-arranging or layering of tunes (because you can actually hear what is going on better on most hi-fis than in a superloud club).

as people have said... at $20 a pop for one song, a dj pays a pretty inflated price to play (and advertise) producer's songs so really a little more slack should be cut to djs, though not an open slather to sell cds.

want your tunes to ever get played, trust the dj - especially those on ARIA etc
- Wed 17 Mar 2004 16:11:02

INQUISITION… Many of you have been asking at the bar and I cannot tell you the number of emails to Sydney Leather Men asking this question but Sydney Leather Pride have advised the details for INQUISITION 2004. So while the city was partying, the folks at SLPA have been hard at work. Here’s what they sent me recently…
 
“We've finally secured a venue for Inquisition - Stage 11, but better and improved!  The event will be on Saturday May 15th and tickets have risen to $95 for non-members.  The price increase will allow us to put on a much better party with two dance areas and multiple outside areas.”
 
Ticketing details to non-SLPA members will be released shortly
 
Remember, Leather Pride Week is your opportunity to get involved in aspects of the Leather/fetish community. Don’t leave all the work to a small committee and then bitch & moan – GET INVOLVED. I was President of SLPA about 10 or 12 years ago and have life long friendships from that time. Remember, it’s your community. Thanks SLPA for the info.
 
- Wed 17 Mar 2004 16:56:01

TO break even, how much would the CD's cost / how much would they owe you / how much would you have to charge if I wanted a copy at the end of the night?
- Wed 17 Mar 2004 17:11:43

if APRA really looked after SONGWRITERS by actually delivering product in a manner that empowered consumers to purchase it WHEN they want it, HOW they want it, in the FORMAT they want it, then perhaps you could have afforded to put a house on the block as well? ;-) LOL

Unless a jukebox has some form of articifial intelligence, and prohibits random punter input, then how on earth could it take a room full of punters on a journey the way a decent DJ will? The DJ may not be god, but he/she can certainly deliver you a divine encounter ... a jukebox will just give you lashings of other people's poor judgement :-\
the jukebox wouldn't accept my 2 cents - Wed 17 Mar 2004 17:51:15

& did you know it's the club with the shortest route to a dance? You can walk in 'straight' off the street (nice security and no queues) into the video-bar [always like the music played]
and then you're on your way ... - Wed 17 Mar 2004 18:09:52

nooooooo ! !
- Wed 17 Mar 2004 18:26:55

So looking forward for some music with a harder edge like I remember at that last Hordern party.

NMG advertised that Hordern would be Hard/Tribal at Mardi Gras and there was
no hardhouse/hardwhatever......dont get me wrong , spent most of the night there but it was Tribal all night. Didnt mind sharing with the Dome people but
we hardhousers were gipped !

Surely it doesn't matter if the party is diluted somewhat. My group are not into leather ( 1 has chaps, 1 an armband ) but we love the scene, we love the
people and would buy tickets if back in the Hordern again.
Anyone know ? - Wed 17 Mar 2004 18:55:40

just saw todays post re Inquisition - how can City Live be new and improved ?
and $95 ! as someone just posted noooooooooooooooooooo
Oh well will wait for big QN - Wed 17 Mar 2004 19:05:36

I agree with you in essence. I would never do a fee mix CD if I knew what I was dojng was against the law. Unfortunately, previously I was under the missaprehention of a lot of people that if you only did a certain amount and they were labelled "Promotional use only, not for resale" that it was ok. I learned my lesson the hard way. I never meant to detract from a recording or producing artist's royalties.

I have been involved in legal compilation CD's and went through the proper channels to get the tracks I wanted. In fact, if you are one of two people that I think you may be (I may be way off track), you can thank the double CD that Mandy and I complied for some of those royalties that helped you get your block of land. As I said, I may be way off track.

Jake, let's say you wanted to record your next Thu Arq set, for example
#and you wanted to do it by-the-book so all royalties are paid, with APRA happy etc.
#and create only 100 (one-hundred) CD's with externally labelled unique serial numbers.
TO break even, how much would the CD's cost / how much would they owe you / how much would you have to charge if I wanted a copy at the end of the night?
- Wed 17 Mar 2004 17:11:43

I cannot begin to even guess at the cost. I can say that on my wage and with my savings, I would not be able to do it. On top of this, as I learned when I did the 2002 MG CD, you have buckleys in getting permission to use most commercial tracks these days.

The record companies allow DJ's very few of their tracks for compilation CD's. I found the most eager and generous record companies were ones who were run by DJ's overseas. I can give a big thanks to Stonebridge for his wonderful attitutde and help, and to Barry Harris of Thunderpuss fame for helping me with Tommy Boy Records (run by Victor Lee). Australian record companies could learn a lot from them.

I think it would be near impossible to do the hypothetical you have raised.
JK - Wed 17 Mar 2004 21:09:18

no mate
Inquisition at the Hordern unfortunately = Lycra and Twinky Pride.
For those that enjoyed the Hordern Inquisitions and they were fun they didn't seem to notice that the leather etc community can't _fill_ the Hordern.
I'm glad the committee use their heads and not their egos to put on a party that will sell to capacity and keep Leather Pride out of debt .... not like some other community organisations
putting on a profitable party ain't hard - Wed 17 Mar 2004 21:36:24

re: inquisiton- $95 for city live - now that is just wrong. sorry but even if the other spaces are great, the main one bites. i remember last year with distaste and do not wish to revisit it. it was hideous, crowded, too bright, and so not leather - really unsexy.... and please don't use all those djs again... PLEASE!!!!! excpet lanny k - he was ace!!!
- Wed 17 Mar 2004 22:38:42

just saw todays post re Inquisition - how can City Live be new and improved ?
and $95 ! as someone just posted noooooooooooooooooooo
Oh well will wait for big QN - Wed 17 Mar 2004 19:05:36"

The Inquisition dynamic just doesn't suit City Live. SLPA would be better advised to do a series of smaller Carnal-type parties while they rethink it for next year.
- Wed 17 Mar 2004 23:15:19

Panther , You’ve been supplying the G&L Community for a long time with such a great service. I’m sure I speak for everyone in wishing you congratulations on achieving such a wonderful milestone !!!

Here’s to another 5 Million !!!
countdowboy :) - Thu 18 Mar 2004 01:35:08

Why stage 11?? A great place for the Inquisition party would have been venue near blackmarket.. I think it's the Mortuary Station?? Something like that anyway, I believe they held a Party there before (F*ck fashion??).

Any comments on it for a venue would be great, but I think the theme/vibe of venue sound great...
Not Stage 11..... - Thu 18 Mar 2004 07:52:39

Sorry, Lycra Pride is taken. We were established quite a few years ago now.
president, Lycra Pride - Thu 18 Mar 2004 08:24:24

I wouldn't disagree that the original decision to leave the Dome for the Hordern
was motivated by the desire to grow the crowd and get more bang for the SLPA buck. A couple of the Hordern parties were great but the overall experience certainly showed that there is a core crowd for these sort of events in Sydney that probably maxes out around 3,000. "Leather" has always had a pretty fluid following in Sydney but is pretty much reliant on a mass of people that are more broadly your "down and dirty" crowd than they are committed leather lifestylers/S&M devotees etc. An Inquisition that was totally restricted to the latter category of partygoer wouldn't fill Manacle let alone Stage 11.
- Thu 18 Mar 2004 09:30:14

I have a few CDs in my collection that are commercially-released live recordings of sets by big name DJ's (eg. Tiesto, Ferry Corsten, Tall Paul, etc). This means that it's not impossible to release a live recording of a DJ's entire set - more likely, very expensive (which may not be a problem if you end up selling a large number of copies once the recording is released)! I think this also explains, to a certain extent, why DJ's often put tracks from their own labels on their discs - since it's cheaper and means that any money from the CD comes back to them rather than going to some record company executive....
- Thu 18 Mar 2004 10:46:31

$5 Coronas $5 Vodkas $5 Entry

Sunday 5pm - 11pm.
- Thu 18 Mar 2004 12:01:49

THERAPY this friday 19th March at The Phoenix (Exchange Hotel)34 Oxford St Darlinghurst.

DJs DAYLA & FEISTY.

10pm - 6am.

Entry $5
Phoenix Posse
Phoenix Posse - Thu 18 Mar 2004 17:28:17

I think you will find most of these recordings are licensed to a record company. They have released it in conjunction with a DJ. The hypothetical raised was that I record my set myself, run copies of the CD myself and then sell them myself. I don't have the financial backing of a big record company to take care of the financial burden for me. A slightly different situation.

JK - finally you said something about music we agree on - stonebridge is xxxcellent, stonebridge, axwell et al are the most fun on 12 inch in ages - yay jake!!!

And Stoney's a great guy to boot!
JK - Thu 18 Mar 2004 19:03:05

I've been to every Inquisition but I won't be attending another City Live pretend number. They might as well chuck a leather party in Scruffy Murphy's.
Is this really where we've ended up? God help us..............
- Thu 18 Mar 2004 21:18:22

Surely Leather Pride must see just how WRONG this venue is.
I realize they do not want to take on the risk on filling a larger venue like the Horden, but surely there must be an alternative?
What about Gas combined with (the domed) Boheme? At least it has a bit of character.

If Leather Pride has no other alternative than Stage 11 then at least acknowledge this is the case and some of us may be able to get our heads around it. For now however it is just WRONG!
- Thu 18 Mar 2004 22:53:27

The Dome - Not Available

Hordern Pavilion - Too Big and Too Expensive

Metro - No longer available for all night events

Gas - Smaller than City Live

Alexandria Basketball Stadium - Unavailable since 1993.

Well Ive just about exhausted all available venues. If anybody can think of somewhere else please contact Leather Pride and let them know. I'm sure they would love to hear from you.

To summarise - This City no longer has a viable, cost effective space to hold dance parties in the 2,500 - 4,000 crowd range.

Get used to City Live - ITS ALL THERE IS !!
- Thu 18 Mar 2004 23:05:22

If you're right then SLPA needs to decide what's more important:

Having one major party per year that's going to - inevitably - take place in a venue inapproriate for a down and dirty leather party; or -

Having a number of smaller parties that more closely "fit" with the specific venue/crowd culture requirements.
- Fri 19 Mar 2004 08:19:29

I think its great !!

Thanks for providing the service, we all very much appreciate it i'm sure.
Luke - Fri 19 Mar 2004 10:03:17

Thanks for providing the service, we all very much appreciate it i'm sure.
Luke - Fri 19 Mar 2004 10:03:17

hear hear!
- Fri 19 Mar 2004 11:18:59

Having one major party per year that's going to - inevitably - take place in a venue inapproriate for a down and dirty leather party; or -

Having a number of smaller parties that more closely "fit" with the specific venue/crowd culture requirements.
- Fri 19 Mar 2004 08:19:29

They already have!! That's why it's at City Live. There will probably be other, smaller Carnal-style parties as well as (rather than instead of)Inquisition.
- Fri 19 Mar 2004 11:37:27

My point was that City Live doesn't fit with the specific venue/crowd culture requirements.
- Fri 19 Mar 2004 12:11:22

What about the Wharf's used by Home for recent dance parties? What about the International passenger terminal? What about Newtown Theatre? The Seymour? What about Home? What about SLPA replying to one of the emails I sent over the past year where I listed a page of venues, albeit not all in the 2010 postcode, that would have been suitable.

Options ARE there. As a party promoter within the wider community of Sydney staging events for the corporate and music industries for 20 years it is my firm belief that it is an issue of punters not willing the look beyond the East as people are so damned affraid to leave the stinking ghetto.
Dodge. - Fri 19 Mar 2004 13:02:29

Luke Fry & I will be spinning uplifting house anthems to keep you going whether you’ve just finished work, just out of bed or still partying from the night before.

Come on down for a drink, a dance and even a free game of pool.
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Dan Murphy - Fri 19 Mar 2004 13:47:58

What's the story here Information=Power ???

If SLPA is bound by such a code of conduct, this must be news to the guys at Manacle as detais of Inquisition and quoes from Leather Pride are detailed in this week's whats on at Manacle onine news letter
- Fri 19 Mar 2004 14:53:18

Well, it's nice that someone feels that informing the punters is a good idea.
I doubt that knowledge=power has as much to do with SLPA's silence as knowledge=fear. If you were on the SLPA committee you probably wouldn't be all that keen about confessing that you're offering a reprise on last year's Inquisition debacle.
- Fri 19 Mar 2004 17:28:13

You are right that there are some venue outside the "ghetto" (Eg. City Hotel), but they won't be able to get any of those venues you mentioned above due to sound restrictions (NYE is an exception) and mostly cost issues.
bite club - Fri 19 Mar 2004 17:58:44

You are right that there are some venue outside the "ghetto" (Eg. City Hotel), but they won't be able to get any of those venues you mentioned above due to sound restrictions (NYE is an exception) and mostly cost issues.
bite club - Fri 19 Mar 2004 17:58:44

I knew you were joking but it's a totally on-to-it, ironic take on SLPA. Anyone who thought they represented out on the edge "sexual outlaws,' need only attend one AGM. It's like a particularly didactic meeting of a totally dysfunctional branch of the Country Womens Association....
- Fri 19 Mar 2004 19:03:34

I think the entry is a few doors down from the normal entry at arq (towards Oxford St). It is disguised as some non-descript grey doors.
my guess - Fri 19 Mar 2004 20:54:19

Um, City Live has a dancefloor for about 200, with steps the WHOLE way through it. It is over-lit and a totally disfunctional space - not in the space any good leather folk would hope for.

GAS has a few great dance spaces, and some great discreet areas and you can use the gaseterium also if a big enough party...... it has a kickass system and great lights and is in a space as close to oxy street as you could hope for

sorry but gas is the really prime choice and they're so blind if they missed it.... word on the street (and in the gutters) from leather men is that they WILL not go. congrats to SLPA for excluding your target demographic and encouraging more mainstream blow-ins who missed out last time to support your closed-door organisation

btw - i have lots of young friends, who are growing to love leather but they're not bone fide / tested leather men yet, surely you must need some of us if you wish to have a future
criticA - Fri 19 Mar 2004 22:29:51

the vortex downstairs emergency exits next to the dj booth open into a laneway at the back of the arq building .. not sure what it's called and it dead ends at the arq exits
- Fri 19 Mar 2004 23:31:58

Fantastic idea... Great to see somebody is looking outside of the Oxford Street bends... Chinese laundry is a fantastic space... Would be very suitable, it is underground/outside etc, and keep in line with the theme..

Also a very far shot, not too sure of the logistics of it, but why not hire out the whole of the Imperial hotel for one night..... It has numerous areas, and downstairs dance area, a mazed chill out area... etc I wouldn't think the cost would be that huge, it would cater for different room?? I'm sure the Owners of Imperial would love a sell out party???

Just a suggestion?
Maybe possible... - Sat 20 Mar 2004 08:40:04

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I wonder - Sat 20 Mar 2004 14:21:51

chinese laundry has 2 rooms, about 150 each, then there is the whole slip inn part above, a balcony for 400, a long room for 200ish, and then another 200 above. Makes at least 1100, and a seriously amazing fresh venue. i don't mean just do the laundry part, do the WHOLE building... can be arranged:)

also really like the other suggestion of the imperial. would be a great venue for inquision if decor themed right for the night.

surely an event for 1000ish with a killer everything especially reputation would be something worth more to the leather scene than a flop at city live? if they do city live, watch out, i am gonna create some competition
- Sat 20 Mar 2004 14:22:11

btw: back alley beats was downstairs at arq & it was f-ing good
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PERVteam - Sat 20 Mar 2004 16:18:04

I think that is a fantastic idea.... The Imperial is quite a biggish area, and have several different options.. I wonder what the maximum people allowed is??

Great new ideas guys...
Imperial probably the most original yet!! - Sun 21 Mar 2004 09:05:01

the next salvation is their easter party 10/04. guess promotion will start in next weeks press.
www.salvation-london.com/htdocs/sydney.htm
that guy - Sun 21 Mar 2004 10:55:27

(I had to do that. Can't wait.)
Countdown Boy (Manhattan Edition) - Sun 21 Mar 2004 14:42:29

usually the organisers
and no-one can be paid enough to do that
- Sun 21 Mar 2004 15:43:20

Maybejudging from reaction on this board INQ has just manouvred itself off the party calendar. Is there a need for such a party anyway. Melbourne has a thriving leather scene with no single annual party but series of hugely popular and efficently organised smaller parties, ie beyond and redemption.
Letitia - Mon 22 Mar 2004 10:33:50

No love, that's got a lot to do with City Live being a fine spot for a camp Retro party. It's just that it's completely wrong for a leather party.
- Mon 22 Mar 2004 13:20:50

is inquisition really at city live??? weird. didn't they learn from last year? i thought the scathing reports on that were enough to discourage every repeating such a shocker.

oh, looking forward to junior jack, mogwai, kid creme, planet punk and black grass (anyone know who black grass is???) on easter saturday. dancing shoes are on ice til then ...... well, except for smooch and maye a shift saturday or two
sore on monday - Mon 22 Mar 2004 13:55:40

I can only conclude that too much staying at home makes your brain mushy
must - go - out - more - Mon 22 Mar 2004 17:46:42

The University of Sydney owns that buiding.
- Mon 22 Mar 2004 23:28:56

you get the prize for biggest laugh of the day... love your work:) yes you are mushy, but going out all weekend didn't help mine get less mushy

btw - ruby rabbit is a new bar where la bar was
- Mon 22 Mar 2004 23:41:31

Perhaps NMG should consider these ideas for a mid-year party. Retro theme with only City Live as the venue. This would be a great little fundraiser for NMG and they already have the perfect DJ lineup for a night like this.

Is there anything on June long weekend at City Live? Could be the perfect time for a party too.
- Tue 23 Mar 2004 13:19:21

Big Queer Nation (BQN)@Fox Studios is a definite goer that weekend.
Letitia - Tue 23 Mar 2004 16:29:48

mmmm be careful. Police have closed down a party there recently. It doesnt have a dance party/bar proper licence, and backs on to a huge block of flats.

BTW: You can catch ben and steve the night before at Arq and save $15!!!
The real action is at baddog this Sunday, then go to mars lounge! (where steve plays and its free!)
- Tue 23 Mar 2004 18:16:48

I'm either swapping with another DJ and will therefore be doing April 22, or I will just miss out in April and be back on for May 6.
JK - Tue 23 Mar 2004 19:19:00

Also I thought that there were 1900 in City Live / Stage 11 / Moviv8 Heaven at Inqusition last year and that was far too many people. I also thought that there were about 2,200 at the last Inquisition in the Dome. I have no idea why I know these things. I must be channelling party organisers at the moment.
lovin' it - Tue 23 Mar 2004 20:47:24

Please discuss.

"A one off Retro event at City Live would be absolutely HUGE if Mardi Gras wanted to take the (albeit small) risk and have a small one hall mid winter event. The success of the retro space at Mardi Gras shows that there is an almost unlimited source of potential to tap into here. A bit of extra revenue for Mardi Gras could very well see more dollars being available for Sleaze Ball's production. I think its a fab idea !"
Not a retro lover but a lover of the idea - Tue 23 Mar 2004 10:26:08
- Tue 23 Mar 2004 20:58:40

I had thought the other day in regards to the time that Toybox holds this event.

I cant understand why its held from Midday to 8pm

The Metro has a 3am licence and yet this party winds up at 8pm.

Surely it would be a better option to start the party mid afternoon (maybe 3pm) and finish it off at 11pm.

It just makes more sense to me to wind up a party on a Sunday night around 11pm and then those people that have top work can call it a night and those that want to kick on are joining the Oxford Street clubs at the time they open on Sunday nights.

Just my thought - feel free to blast critisism at me without prejudice :P
just a boi - Tue 23 Mar 2004 21:07:17

As good as the goodoldays were unfortunately they are gone. Now there are less / different venues to challenge party promoters.
Lil - Wed 24 Mar 2004 00:33:23

The Shift usually has a 'recovery' that kicks off at 8pm on Toybox nights.
- Wed 24 Mar 2004 00:56:29

Be vigilant. Watch the crowd. Keep an eye on your friends. Walk away from GHB; it's such a low rent product
blue nitro - Wed 24 Mar 2004 08:21:28

You can buy tickets from the website toyboxparty.com.au
or from Bayswater Fitness, Grumpy Baker, Newtown Gym, One Stop Dee Jay

but be quick, with this the only party on the Anzac Day long weekend, it is sure to sell out
BubbleBoi - Wed 24 Mar 2004 10:14:41

Well, because it's major marketing point is that it's a daytime party - it's what makes it different (and hence hopefully more sellable) from the norm.
- Wed 24 Mar 2004 10:28:09

Dome used to sell up to 2,200 for Inquisition parties, with extension into the outdoor area, so all-up number variation between Dome and Stage 11 is actually pretty minimal. It's all about the appropriateness of the venue. Stage 11 is a purpose-built, sanitised 'niteclub' environment aimed at a marketing/crowd demographic about as far removed from a g&l leather party dynamic as it's possible to be.
- Wed 24 Mar 2004 10:42:11

They said to stay away from GHB but they interviewed a "user" who said his standard dose is 2ml pure and he uses it about 5 times a month. Which probably means he uses it every weekend, still has multiple 2ml. doses but many hours apart.

Also mentioned was that there is no antagonist to to the drug. And that it's a cheap and powerful drug, marketed as "liquid ectasy" & that's the main attraction.

I say: bring the price of 'e's down and it won't look so attractive.
- Wed 24 Mar 2004 12:05:48

Well yes it's a marketing thing but - at the same time The Metro is not licenced for 24 Hrs Trading anymore.... like it was when Frisky was.

Besides..... you can go to the party - then go to any number of after party...right through to the next day. 24Hrs of party is easy to do on a toybox weekend.
Ryan Murphy - Wed 24 Mar 2004 12:42:22

Every party is "what you make it" at the end of the day. But the right venue really does help a lot. The Inquisition "details" over at the Community Wall, aren't really dettails, as such. It's more a statement from SLPA Prez Greg Bloye about how SLPA has considered a whole host of venue options and having done so will be putting Inquisition on "at Fox Studios." He also tells us that 'lighting issues will be attended to.' Hmmmmm...maybe they're doing it as an afternoon Garden Party in Bent St?
- Wed 24 Mar 2004 13:24:52

DiRTy
Friday 30th April
9pm-6am
only $20!

DiRTy live performances by:

Christa Hughes - of Machine Gun Fellatio and Sleepless Beauty notoriety - who'll be performing 'Mothafukka on a Motorcycle' and other dirty ditties.

Cherry2000 - a short yet filthy live set by these legendary trashbag Electro-Rock perverts.

SodomSonic Sound System - live dirty drumming meets tricky turntable techniques.

PLUS a way-sexy 1am show - details to be announced over the coming weeks.

DiRTy Dj's:

9pm - Lanny K - kickstarting the night with a mutant lounge set of trashy mashups ... music to get drunk and messy to.

11pm - Steve Sonius - chief Bad Dog mongrel & Spin Off slut shows us why he can't be spayed.

2am - Miss Yetti vs. Lanny K - ride these boys to sunrise as they go head-to-sleazy-head. Base ... how low can you go?

More DiRTy details to be announced shortly.

Cheers
Craig - Wed 24 Mar 2004 16:05:11

At The Icebox!
Craig - Thu 25 Mar 2004 11:21:06

Oh please , sssssstop it.

He might have been nice eye candy back at DCM in 1992 but these days I dont think so. I actually saw him at a Mardi Gras party in 2003 or 2003 and he aint that spring chicken he used to be let me tell you !!

Time and the ageing process catches up to all of us !!
Age shall weary us all - Thu 25 Mar 2004 11:59:59

I was thinking: in this age, perhaps the value in the music is no longer possible through the conventional mass marketing, as the music companies have become a bit monopolistic. But rather through limited editions where the value is in the mix and the limited numbers. maybe?

Would NMG let you use their name? They may want to back you (I have nothing to do with them, BTW
must - go - out - more - Thu 25 Mar 2004 18:39:35