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Do you enjoy going to the local for a few drinks, a chat with friends and the possibility of meeting someone new? Do you come home with stinging eyes? In the morning do you notice the smell of smoke all through the clothes you wore, and even your hair?

Many people enjoy a cigarette, especially when they are drinking. It is a part of their socialising. It is something to do with their hands. It is an adiction that can be very difficult to shake.

In many countries there is legislation banning smoking indoors in public areas, including in pubs and clubs. This is slowly being introduced in the states of Australia, and our pubs and clubs must comply with the legislation.

If it is post-party Tuesday or Wednesday and you are feeling a bit down, please refrain from sharing your depression with the rest of the readers.
Please be constructive with your comments and criticism.

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For far too long non smokers have had to have passive smoke jammed into their lungs and have no right of objection.

Now the ball is swinging back in the court of non smokers and arent we just going to just revel in this !!!
- Fri 4 Jul 2003 12:11:49

no one is out to be nasty...just let it happen.

We have had to put up with it for this long....slow and gentle...you know we are going to win out. :-)

I look forward to the nights when i can come home not stinking of cigarettes.

Being aggresive about inforcement is not the way... just let it happen you know its going to. (be nice) :-)
- Fri 4 Jul 2003 17:52:54

encourage the shift to enforce a no-smoking policy, the haze will clear, and oral fixations of a different kind will be all too apparrent

boom-tish-da-boom!
Ms Golightly - Fri 4 Jul 2003 20:18:53

"Fri 4 Jul 2003 18:10:41" Because he is a mate and a good DJ. This is not publicity, just a bit of light-hearted hype. Is that SO bad?
aw c'mon and play - Fri 4 Jul 2003 23:55:53

this is one of the djs who has been playing forever and now is finally being acknowledged FOR offering something unique when a lot of others play it safe, or selfish. cannot agree with your sentiment....

but yes the dj dj thing is a bit weird -
- Sat 5 Jul 2003 08:55:51

Actually, i think you'll find that the ones who do snort/suck/shaft all that stuff are the ones who are the smokers.

The rest of us live a life relatively free of artificial enhancers.
- Sat 5 Jul 2003 09:01:26
This is the opinion of the poster.

Whilst I sympathise with your friends misfortune, I think most people would know not to leave something that valuable just lying around in a public venue in ANY large city anywhere in the world.
- Sat 5 Jul 2003 09:05:10

i think the venues will be providing smoking rooms ?? am i wrong...while not ideal also not a bad idea ... i dont like smoking around non smokers - but i do (personally) enjoy a cigarette with a drink - i would find it hard to go without in a club/pub environment but hate inflicting my habit on the nons' - please can we find a happy medium without being too militant.
buddy one - Sat 5 Jul 2003 14:59:52

sorry - it is a shame - but not manacle's fault.
- Sat 5 Jul 2003 15:03:36

Talk about totally stupid. He deserved to lose it given that sort of careless behaviour.
- Sat 5 Jul 2003 22:31:27

http://www.health.nsw.gov.au/pubs/smoking/pdfs/shareair_factsheet.pdf
Stop Smoking - Think of your lungs - Sun 6 Jul 2003 11:46:33

Everyone please show their Hankies.
Left/Right and Polka-dots are all acceptable,
thank you.
Adam Q. Rot - Sun 6 Jul 2003 13:07:44

The Manacle ? Don't think I've been in that establishment,
but yes, a hat/locker check-in is more secure, if a Venue has it.

I don't go out that often, in the Scene any more. Also I try not to
take the Jacket off, as they get pilfered too easily :(

Yes, sorry. I'll let your friend wear my one if he visits Australia
again. Not much, but Folks do care.. tis terrible especially
since we are all Ambassadors for our nice little country.

Hello bears!
Torquemada - Sun 6 Jul 2003 13:22:29

I dont have to explain why they cant just go "all the way" straight away ....do I ?
really think about it
- Sun 6 Jul 2003 13:46:45

suggest you blame Canada Lol
(see South Park)
- Sun 6 Jul 2003 17:02:02

I really hope this is not implying what it suggests or you win the sash for most elitist queen 2003.

"Avoid that Crowd" - as one of that crowd, and as a person who has never even stolen a button, I am pretty offended by this implication. Maybe you ought to go visit Manacle, meet some of the faces and you will see how proposterous what you suggest is.

Why does every twink think they are going to get abused or pack-raped at The Barracks/Manacle?
- Sun 6 Jul 2003 17:11:12

Whata disgraceful thing to say. Shame on you for being such a hypocrite.
- Sun 6 Jul 2003 20:21:56

On the other hand there probably is some needy person who is running around all warm with a few extra bucks.
catch it on the way 'round next time? - Sun 6 Jul 2003 21:02:29

I apologize sincerely, thank you.
Torquemada - Sun 6 Jul 2003 21:03:20

Excellent!
nothing like variety - Sun 6 Jul 2003 23:36:13

I do agree with you here sometimes, however I love places where drag performers are roaming personal hosts. After seeing so many shows, individual performers tend to stand out a little more up close. I was however very impressed to hear that one of the shows actually featured Courtney Act singing... not bad? Missed it this week but will make an effort to actually check it out next time.

Also DJ Peter Fam was great!!!!
- Mon 7 Jul 2003 22:53:54

They would have to be committed to hosting the club, week in, week out, & be very good at looking after people.

Suggestions?
- Tue 8 Jul 2003 17:16:50

This particulary relates to the fact that smoking is now not allowable within a venue at the point where a staff member has contact with customers at counter areas. This now means that any person working in a club or pub should be able to expect that they not have direct face to face contact with any smoking customer. Definition of counter can be extended to a bar , a cloak room , a DJ Box (anywhere a staff member may have face to face contact with a customer) .

Also a non smoking "area" is to be designated in bars in addition to the fact that licenced venues where more than one bar area exists are encouraged to giving consideration to making one bar area totally non smoking. In non smoking areas (including all counter areas and bars) ashtrays , matchbooks and nearby cigarette machines are to be removed or relocated elsewhere to areas where smoking is currently allowable. Venues with air conditioning, open windows or ventilation systems are NOT EXEMPT from these regulations.

These regulations do not become law until later in the year (December) however it is now a required regulation and are expected to be implemented immediately.

These regulations will be further extended on July 1 , 2004 when a club or pub MUST have at least one whole room of its premisis totally non smoking.

It should be noted that not one single gay bar or club that I can think of is currently is adhering to the new regulations that came into effect last week.

I can say for certain that as soon as the general public is made aware of these new regulations that the management of gay bars and clubs are going to be bombarded with people insisting that the regulations be put into effect.

Its going to get messy !!!

Any venue that hasnt got their shit together and got non smoking areas happening by the time these regulations are passed into law in December are going to be run out of business by people regularly reporting these venues into the Health Department.

Watch out for a full story in SX News in the next week or two on this topic !!

People are laughing this subject off at the moment thinking it will go away.

It will not go away.... Guaranteed.

Let the inspections begin !!!
Campaign for fresh air in all enclosed spaces !! - Tue 8 Jul 2003 17:55:41

These are the sort of posts that should not be allowed on this site and moderaters should delete them.

Unless the poster is prepared to justify "WHY" Queen was crap then the post is nothing more than a "shit stir" in my opinion.

People need to justify themselves on this board if they are going to put something or someone down in my opinion.
Tell us why you think it was crap - Wed 9 Jul 2003 15:03:35

Why not, instead of just berating the party, explain why you thought the party was crap and suggest possible improvements that would make your party experience a more enjoyable one. I dare say the organisers/promoters or people they know read this board and it gets back to them. Having something constructive to say may bring about a change to your liking.....

Just an idea......

I thought QUEEN was great....thanks The Midnight Shift for a fun night !
Josh - Wed 9 Jul 2003 15:04:42

This post is pretty much like saying "Lavish was crap" even before the event is on. Why aren't you or your friends going?
- Wed 9 Jul 2003 16:30:50

Adam, when i wear a hanky, it signifies hayfever. If anyone approached me for anal sex, I'd sneeze on them.
Achoo - Wed 9 Jul 2003 16:43:26

In the main, negative posts not making any justifying comment are normally written by shit stirers who werent even there

Negative comments need to be justified or face the moderators axe in my opinion.
Be more positive !! - Wed 9 Jul 2003 16:44:15

1/Nothing wrong with a good shit stir I say.
2/Anyway , who cares if someone anonymous hated it?
3/I'm pleased that he/she didn't bore us with the details as to why they hated it.
Queen WAS crap - Wed 9 Jul 2003 16:44:34

On the other hand, the increasingly hysterical insistence that the Midnight Shift can only be spoken about in sort of - 'they offered me eternal life but I said no, just give me Queen at the Shift' - terms, is starting to get a tad worrying.......
- Wed 9 Jul 2003 23:20:45

Besides being full of unworthy ex-trade, ARQ is trash male-barbie doll city! The midnight shift (CLUB daahling)is refreshing by comparison.

(by the way Mr Panther - that is NOT a generalisation!)

ta ta
Ms Golightly - Wed 9 Jul 2003 23:32:39

If you behave and spent some time playing Games, (rpg's/flightsims)
it would reduce stress, angst and is free Resilience Training!

The Love and the Wrath (also: yoga, incense and tea-parties, talk to me)
Guru - Thu 10 Jul 2003 17:33:36

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Craig - The Studio at Sydney Opera House - Fri 11 Jul 2003 11:57:10

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Craig - The Studio at Sydney Opera House - Fri 11 Jul 2003 12:44:59

So dust off your PVC hotpants, or your leather chaps for a discount at the door.

DJs MANDY ROLLINS, LANNY K and MISS YETTI will provide the twisted soundtrack for the best fetish night in Sydney.

See you there!
Ultra
The Hellfire Club
http://www.hellfiresydney.com
- Fri 11 Jul 2003 12:55:28

but Where is it On at?
- Fri 11 Jul 2003 13:02:41

Hello Paul Goodyear, come back soon but keep Dan Murphy around!
- Fri 11 Jul 2003 13:05:47

Avagoodweegend
Craig @ The Studio - Fri 11 Jul 2003 16:38:17

You are full of crap.

Mardi Gras has not yet called for DJ's to apply for Sleaze Ball and are about to place an add in SX & SSO in the next 2-3 weeks on this subject.
I KNOW ! - Fri 11 Jul 2003 19:21:40
Pinkboard is unable to verify this statement.

Xane
- Sat 12 Jul 2003 18:35:14

Xane
- Sun 13 Jul 2003 10:13:37

Xane
- Sun 13 Jul 2003 10:14:52

Then the dawn of time must have been after 1982, because Sleaze actually started at Paddington Town Hall.
- Sun 13 Jul 2003 11:43:53

Interested people should email octopussy00@ozemail.com.au if they wish to find out more.

Cheers
Craig aka Master Tom - The Last No Holes Barred - Sun 13 Jul 2003 13:43:23

The party is at a former swingers club very close to Icebox. For further info about how great this venue is in terms of features, see our information, kindly put into website form by Sydney's Own Kink MagEzine - SCREAMZTEAM at: http://www.screamzteam.com/html/no_holes_barred.html

Why is it the last? Well the venue has been sold, so we will be looking for a new home where we can still do all the things we want to do without censorship. Also we believe in evolving and developing and perhaps we will create a "post-fetish" party in an entirely new space to wow your leather jocks off some time in the near future.

The previous answer really summed up NHB better than I could... all I can say is whoever you are, I hope you're coming to this NHB. Hellfire has come a long way from being 'predominantly straight' - whilst we're not a 'gay night' I like to think that we create a 'beyond sexuality' kind of environment in our new 'by the scene and for the scene' formate.

Stick your head in Xane, you might be pleasantly surprised. Our nextnight is Friday 18th July @ The Icebox.

Kinky thoughts,
Ultra
The Hellfire Club
http://www.hellfiresydney.com
- Sun 13 Jul 2003 14:02:04

I like that line because I always feel comfortable in a group of misfits. Now I know why!
Miss Fit - Sun 13 Jul 2003 15:40:03

Smart Ass.
- Sun 13 Jul 2003 16:11:39

a joke??????????? we hope so
- Sun 13 Jul 2003 20:54:45

Ivan, You are a fool.

Non smoking in clubs has become law and will be enforced by the State dept of health. Smokers will have to abide by the regulations because clubs will be fined if they dont cut smoking out of their establishments.

The days of smoke filled rooms are slowly coming to an end. GET USED TO IT !!
happy non smoker - Mon 14 Jul 2003 12:51:47

perhaps if he danced really badly that would be a reason for not liking him.....
Ms Golightly - Mon 14 Jul 2003 15:14:23

Re Lavish- I thought it was a great party. We got there pretty late at 2.30am but it was still packed out. It has that "all of sydney fetishists- who ARE these people?" kind of feel about it, and I love that. It's so good to know there are so many hundreds of sydney fetish people who come out to play. It gives comfort to those of us who see the scene not as an exclusive club, but as an opportunity to go out and enjoy oneself with others of a similar mindset and dress sense ;)

And thanks Sam for being such a lovely host. Amongst all those people, you were still so friendly and warm. We all love a good host!
Cath - Mon 14 Jul 2003 17:39:27

I don't know to what you're referring- Lavish or NHB? I don't go to queer only venues as I'm not a separatist. I don't believe Lavish was queer only.
Cath - Tue 15 Jul 2003 10:15:47

"Smoking kills. If you're killed, you've lost a very important part of your life," --Brooke Shields, during an interview to become Spokesperson for federal antismoking campaign
Fireman Sam - Tue 15 Jul 2003 12:43:50

What will really change the attitude of venue operators and the quick adoption of complete non-smoking public premises is when there is a raft of successful litigation by staff for passive smoking against the insurers of these venues under OH&S guidelines. $ speaks louder than words.
*Anyhow... have a tumour - Tue 15 Jul 2003 14:28:29

Xane
- Tue 15 Jul 2003 19:59:12

We love you Marilyn
- Tue 15 Jul 2003 22:06:50

you complain about smoking etc, why bother going to pubs/niteclubs? Its best for you to stay at home and watch TV where there is no smoke, i dont want to get used to the pubs/niteclubs being smokefree and i dont ever see it happening here, even thought they may make laws about it, they still wont give a damn, after all profits comes first than health, get used to it my dear!!!
will - Wed 16 Jul 2003 10:10:31

If venues dont comply with the new non smoking laws they will get driven out of business with large fines and closed down by the dept of health.

Time you woke up to reality, smoke free clubs are on the way.

Time for YOU go stay at home and smoke your filthy cancer sticks where they dont pollute the air of those who hate this filthy habit!! (who buy the way are in the majority 80% - 20%)
A very happy non smoker - Wed 16 Jul 2003 13:02:05

And as a special gift from Ms Golightly to all pinkboard readers struggling through a mundane Wednesday......

Pat Benatar has a new albumn entitled "GO" out on August 12. I kid you not! http://benatarfanclub.com/news.shtml
Ms Golightly - Wed 16 Jul 2003 13:04:26

I actually found it quite amusing....though it seemed to have a surprisingly american bent given it came from an autralian author (i think). Though it unnecessarily perpetuates both gay and lesbian stereotypes, i think it only does this as a humourous counter-point to the equally stereotypical (and wrong) views being pushed by the far-right or neo-conservatives who believe that sexuality is a matter of choice. As a retort to that, ie, the gay agenda, i actually found it to be quite powerful - highlighting, just how ridiculous the assertion that sexuality is merely "chosen" really is.

More interesting, why was a fireman looking for cascading style sheets?

I really should do some work today, ta ta for now
Ms Golightly - Wed 16 Jul 2003 13:59:13

you have to put up with really loud music while it lasts. he looks scary in the one modern pic they have of hi (actually, he reminds me a tad of Jamie from Big Brother!!!!!!!). it's an amusing website as there is always some drama going on in his life. like last yea he claimed a psycho fan thwarted his comeback by telling this club he was due to appear at that all these drug lords would turn up demanding money off him.

for info on other 80s (UK) pop stars check out: http://www.remembertheeighties.com/pages/news.html

Enjoy
Sir Vix - Wed 16 Jul 2003 15:12:28

As for Howard Jones, well that track is only 100 beats per minute, I think if you played that in a club today a DJ would have have projectiles thrown at him or her !!!
DJ - Wed 16 Jul 2003 15:33:16

get a clue sunshine ....it is going to happen ,
It will happen slowly as not to effect sales.

How dare smokers asume they can polute the air I breath...shame on them.

look at offices and resturants.

same thing sunshine ...wake up and smell the roses..if you are still capable.
- Wed 16 Jul 2003 15:37:59

Ms Golightly said.....What? aren't people taking K anymore?
Ms Golightly - Wed 16 Jul 2003 22:00:55

Before you roll your eyes and start whingeing, yes, it's only my opinion and my taste, but a bit of variety never killed anybody.

(While I'm on the soap box... why do we HAVE to have sleaze at Fox studios? It's pretty obvious they only like us for our money, and we seem to be getting less and less goodwill in return.
doof doof doof - Wed 16 Jul 2003 23:28:42

After two days of heated debate, the Uniting Church today voted to allow practising homosexuals to be ordained as priests.

A conservative group within the church had warned it faced a mass exodus if the vote favoured ordaining homosexual priests.

The vote at the church's national assembly in Melbourne effectively allows individual presbyteries to decide ordinations on a case-by-case base.

Discussion was adjourned yesterday after an impassioned debate failed to end in consensus.

The Uniting Church, which was formed in 1977 by a merger of the Presbyterian, Methodist and Congregational churches, will now become the first mainstream Australian church to allow the ordination of practising homosexuals.

Courtesy AAP via SMH
Now we can party!!! In real Frocks! - Thu 17 Jul 2003 13:33:53

No fear of that my friend.... i worked on club dv8 and they still owe me money too!! grrrrr. (i assume that's what you mean)? We have PAID all our dj's and all the staff who worked for a fee. A lot of friends helped us out for free, since we had such a slim budget for our first event and no idea whether it would be a success or not. Without their generosity i would be dead now from overload! having said that, i am still recovering from exhaustion, but it's hard to ignore the hords of people already yelling: when's the next Lavish? ... with feedback like this, who can rest? hehehe
no complaints, i could not be happier about the outcome.
again, thanks to all who made it, the party was all about you!
cheers
p.s. ("Lytex" extends his thanks also)
Ms Sam - Thu 17 Jul 2003 14:22:30

Dear self appointed pinkboard monitor/sheriff/judge and jury. If it's a party issue it's valid here on this board. So what, it's been done to death, it's good to see pb newbies and olbies come on and express their opinions and beliefs and debate the pros and cons. Take a moment to think of the alternatives... a batch of homogenised comments all agreeing on a narrow set of principles. No stimulation, no critique, no debate, no life... and you mention consensus, who wants f****ng consensus. BORING...!!! Kum-bay-ah and all that. Phooey. Maybe Panther can start a Party Kum-bay-ah Graffiti Wall where no opposing or on-going arguement will be tolerated.

<sigh> Xane

PS. Forget leather pride, what about that Black Party during the games? Woo Hoo, slap me down and do it again.
- Thu 17 Jul 2003 17:49:53

I think the Shift would be happy that they now have 2 busy nights upstairs on Fridays and Saturdays.

The fact that Sunday hasnt worked isnt really a big deal anymore in my opinion.

As long as its packed on Fri & Sat then they can do without Sunday.

I mean lets face it, Arq survives basically on the back of 2 nights that being Saturday & Sundays, and Arq doesnt have the roaring trade that the Shift has downstairs !!!
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blah - Thu 17 Jul 2003 19:52:30

Since rediscovering the refurbished Shift with their diverse bunch of DJ's, you can't lose either. They have wooed me back, even Wednesday's are "picking-up".
But why bother with the Shift vs. Arq debate when you can "do" both? - Thu 17 Jul 2003 22:45:19

Howard Jones, Nic Kershaw, Shiela E, Bananarama, Duran Duran, Spandau Ballet, Prince and the New Generation, Eurythmics, Depeche Mode, Erasure, Shakespears Sister, Mel and Kim, Til Tuesday, Irene Cara, Wa Wa Nee, Pseudo Echo, KIDS IN THE KITCHEN, oh yeah baby!

couldn't possibly draw any less numbers than they are now. Heck, I'll bring out some of my scratched up ol vinyl and be the DJ (just if somebody could explainthat BPM thing to me....)
Ms Golightly - Thu 17 Jul 2003 23:46:12

It's not something people want to introduce, it's something they've always had.
We're all aware of the law. The practice has long been different.
- Fri 18 Jul 2003 08:35:24

You tap your foot to the beat of the song for 60 seconds. you count how many times you tap your foot in 60 seconds. That "count" is the BPM (Beats per minute) of the song.

Its not rocket science !!

The concept is to manipulate tracks of a similar BPM together by shifting their pitch on the turntable or cd player. In your mix of tunes you go from one track to the next so that the crowd doesnt experience a sudden change of tempo from one song to the next. You slowly over a period of time can work your way up or down in bpm.

One can start on a bpm of say 120bpm and within the space of 5 or 6 songs have worked your way up to 130bpm. In this day and age where most punters are on amphetimines songs with low bpm under 120bpm are not welcome. In fact there is almost NO dance music out there currently that falls below the 120bpm mark.

Most house music is 120-130bpm these days
Most Tribal Dance is 125-135bpm these days
Most Pop dance & Trance music is 130-140bpm
Some Hard House / Banging music is 140 - 150bpm
Some hard core techno can be 150+ (but this is not common)

Being subtle is an art and a skill that alot of DJ's dont possess these days. The crowd dont appreciate being sledge hammered from one bpm range to another from one song to the next. It breaks up the flow which can be most annoying in my experience.

There you have it. Your first DJ lesson. Please remit your cheque or money order for $99.95. You are now ready to play !! :P
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Your First DJ Lesson - Priceless. - Fri 18 Jul 2003 09:43:03

Still low-volume loungey tunes and $5.50 cocktails between 9pm-Midnight, still at The Icebox and still crazy after all these years.

Cheers, dears
Master Tom - The Hellfire Club - Fri 18 Jul 2003 10:35:05

ooh eerr - my first DJ lesson. I am here at work distracting everybody with my foot tapping out Hall and Oates "out of touch"....i'm out of touch, she's out of time, but i'm out of my head when you're [muffle muffle scratched vinyl...] and that pointer sisters (diva's before their time) anthem "i'm so excited, and i just can't hide it, i'm about to lose control and i think i LIKE it"

Oh the memories.....I was a slightly repressed young homo (15)with a fab undercut streaked to an inch of its life and the little headband with Japanese characters on it and a black mesh singlet worn over a white t-shirt with BIG pants and just thinking life couldn't get any better - circa 1985!!!!
Ms Golightly - Fri 18 Jul 2003 12:38:10

It would work well if it was mixed in the style that Paul Goodyear does (mixing in the old with the new).

80's stuff? Small doses, please.
Gina & Tina - Sat 19 Jul 2003 10:22:12

Unfortunately all sex on licensed venues is illegal. If the licensee knows about it then they must do something about it.
Arti - Sat 19 Jul 2003 11:44:56

The party was about playing music from the past and was mostly 80's music with about 25% being the current music of the era.

The 1992 party was held at the much loved Alexandria Basketball Stadium. It was an outstanding evening even though the night itself was a shocker having terrential rain fall all night.

The 1993 Step Back occurred at somewhere that was called the Alexandria Sports Stadium which from my recollection was somewhere near where Green Square Railway Station now is.

The 1993 party was equally as good as 1992 but it didnt sell out like the 1992 party (partly due to peoples uncertainty about a venus that had never been used before, and was never used again).

Two of the 3 DJ's who played the 1993 event are still currently working on the gay scene today.

Many of the people who I socilaised with it that early 90's era have endless stories about the good times that were had at that those 2 parties. Anybody else care to share stories about these wonderful times ?

Oh dear I'm reminising again.....

Anyway, Back in 2003 theres no reason at all why a 80's / 90's night at a place like the Shift wouldnt be a huge success. Shit, Let me DJ it - Ive got so much unused vinyl from the last 20 years that I could play till Christmas time non stop without having to repeat a song :)

Comparing the scene 1992-3 to 2003 makes me sigh in dispair. How tragic night clubbing is compared to that wonderful era. Oops I'm dwelling again.... time to get lunch, Bi Bi !!
Dreamer - Sat 19 Jul 2003 12:14:23

Anyhow, the Shift really has made Friday night work - happy crowd, happy tunes (kinda like a classy palms really)....so I think an eigthies/retro/pure pop night could work quite well on a sunday....maybe not every sunday, but say one sunday a month.

And a Saturday night blessing to you all. "Everybody have fun tonight, Everybody Wang Chung tonight!"
Ms Golightly - Sat 19 Jul 2003 12:24:56

Nice theory. have you noticed that we have a government who would like nothing better than to have mum, dad and 1.2 kids and the picket fence, all the boys are in the army and gay people simply don't exist. It started with Olympics clean up and the Carr government have just kept it going. Ignore the law at your own peril, but don't put the rest of us in jeopardy while you're at it.
- Sat 19 Jul 2003 14:02:57

I think i saw you ! (keep it up Ms Golightly, you brighten my day)!
retro faghag : )) - Sat 19 Jul 2003 14:17:19

Sure but why put shit on events which don't "fit" your narrow criteria? Just don't go to those ones if you're so fussy.
another non-separatist - Sat 19 Jul 2003 14:36:19

Disaster...? Oh I don't think so.

Xane
- Sat 19 Jul 2003 18:44:09

Hey Dreamer - sure do remember all those parties at Alexandria - great venue.
When you travel overseas you see amazing clubs that have surpassed Sydney.
We just dont seem to have the venues like them. Ours are renovated shops or a couple shops meshed together. We need old community halls/old cinemas/old churches etc to be converted but any old building nowadays is pulled down and apartments put up. Shame where Home is. What is the Metro Theatre used for up at the Cross ? saw it today and thought what a great venue it could be. Even better would be that Church opposite St Vincents and spooky looking as well.
Kinselas could be great if all gay - bar/toilets downstairs, upstairs just all dance floor ! but I'm dreaming as well.
Alexandria Sports Stadium got so hot that the condensation dripped all over but fortunately it got everyone so all looked bad ! There was that great warehouse party in Glebe in old wine building with showers ! Hideous NYE party
at some warehouse over Glebe way as well - had a tank in it but was an oven.
But my all time fave is the Hordern - only wish the old bleachers were in there, followed by 2nd fave Alexandria Basketball Stadium. Both were great for
sound and being able to sit in high up bleachers looking down on the dance floor, even waving to your friends ..........sigh.
Will it ever be the same ? will we catch up with the rest of the world ?
Just dreaming as well - Sat 19 Jul 2003 21:12:16

... and MOSTY of us meet and/or pass eachother in clubs, pubs and bars and never really know who is who on pinkboard!
love to party -- party to love - Sun 20 Jul 2003 10:42:19

Maybe, and it is a bit tragic. But something tells me we have why the rest YEARN for:

#$@%'ing great DJ's that love their work and are loved in return.
Maddox Sreetwise - Sun 20 Jul 2003 10:52:43

Good! Glad to hear it. And why should anyone's sexuality be demonised? Isn't that the point? Pansexual parties shouldn't be demonised because you don't like them either eh?
- Sun 20 Jul 2003 14:53:42

"Just can't wait for Sleaze", I know you weren't knocking them..."its weird how some DJ's play different to the big parties to what they play in a club"
I think this is due to set placement, how they feel on the night (can't always be UP, I suppose) and someone as humble as Alex sometimes doesn't always want to steal kudos from his fellow DJ's, that's my guess!
Maddox - Mon 21 Jul 2003 14:13:51

Xane
- Mon 21 Jul 2003 18:24:26

Xane
- Mon 21 Jul 2003 18:26:34

a couple of years back Ken's used to do a women's only night during Mardi Gras and all the women who turned up just sat around the pool throwing the beach ball around and laughing their heads off!
- Tue 22 Jul 2003 09:21:13

Ken's used to run a women-only night in the run-up to Mardi Gras but it was always written up by lesbian commentators as kind of about couples just floating round in the pool together. Kind of sweet but not really the idea ;)

Maybe you should initiate a debate about it in LOTL?
- Tue 22 Jul 2003 09:37:37

""Alcohol
How about an alcohol free Sleaze Ball (gets around the problems with having a sex space?)""

Feedback above might usefully be channeled through the NMG website. Inputis also sought on a whole range of issues pertaining to sleaze including date, entertanment, venue (significance of Fox Studios)etc
- Tue 22 Jul 2003 09:48:08

Ice cream and party favours, make Leather Balls such fun;
attendance is by invitation, unless you are a Nun,
The Bishop holds his Leather Balls, when not attending Mass;
to demonstrate how big they are and show that he has Class.
Adam Q. Rot - Tue 22 Jul 2003 11:05:26

How is that different to any night of the week at any male sex venue? ...there's a reason why the light are so low and no clocks in the cruizing areas....
- Tue 22 Jul 2003 12:04:23

Women in Sydney don't have a dedicated sex space so aren't used to the procedures for picking up casual sex at a venue. Maybe there isn't the cultural background for it, I dunno. I do know that I would really appreciate having somewhere like Ken's or Headquarters to drag a hot girly back to, or to cruise around in. It also means that Big Gay Dance Parties are the closest thing a lot of women get to, to having a cruising sexy venue. Crikey, we're not immune to feeling at sexy at these parties! The boys aren't the only ones retreating to the loos for a bit of recreation!
- Tue 22 Jul 2003 15:24:33

Well excuse me - [Ms Golightly picks herself up off the floor] What a horrible thing to say! I fell off my chair when I read that outrageous post. No, not the bit about working at the shift....the hurtful part was that totally BASELESS and DEMEANING accusation that Ms Golightly was,......married (Ms Golightly spat that last word out). I ain't no "Mrs" sweetie, just ask my first husband!

Yes, downstairs does play retro, and i think Rodney Dean does a darn good job - why doesn't the shift just pop him upstairs on a Sunday - video screens and all? And just so the cynical readers of Pinkboard don't think I'm blatantly promoting the Shift - Peter Fam (i think - kinda orright looking) played a great set upstairs at the Colombian on Sunday evening (fantastic remix of "here comes the rain again" by the Eurythmics)and the overall set had a very 80's feel to it.

Anyhow, to all those who think an 80's night won't work, i just have 5 words......."Kim Wilde Kids In America".

and Mr Panther, can you please ensure that such outrageous and hurtful generalisations don't slip through again. ta ta for now
Ms Golightly - Tue 22 Jul 2003 15:51:20

Um... Not sure how to best answer this, to say the entire Fox complex was the designated sex space is probably an exaggeration... but not far off it. Given it was a Men only event, men being the pigs that they are just did it where ever, when ever, how ever and generally with an audiance... Oink...!

Xane

PS. Any reports on the Women's only party at the gaymes...? Was it hot and oinky...?
- Tue 22 Jul 2003 17:23:00

Xane
- Tue 22 Jul 2003 17:43:54

An Brissy Boy , I like the venues the way they have been in recent years ie
RHI with its handbag/commercial and Hordern with hardhouse/trance and Dome
with its Sleazy atmosphere and if there are $'s leftover the City Live has
been very popular with its latino type music or R & B whichever they prefer.
Just busting - Tue 22 Jul 2003 19:56:41

Xane

Which is a perfect explanation of why Fox pulled the plug on sex spaces after 15 years of having them.
- Tue 22 Jul 2003 22:46:22

learn to think outside the box. try anything you want. not all djs do or need to beat mix. sometimes the need for diversity in music comes ahead of linear set progressions. not one rule for all otherwise it would bite big time...

remember that this niche music fad only got started a few years ago...
- Wed 23 Jul 2003 03:35:15

Yea, open it, open it! Is it ok? Would like to think so but haven't personally tested the theory......
tg - Wed 23 Jul 2003 08:08:57

This statement is totally incorrect.

DJ's have been beat mixing slowly going up and down in bpm tempo since the inception of the 12" single in the late 1970's

I myself have been mixing this way ever since I was shown "how to do it" back in 1984.
an ancient DJ. - Wed 23 Jul 2003 12:43:10

As a promoter of pansexual play parties and clubs (No Holes Barred and Hellfire) the main problem for putting on a women's sex space/sauna night is (a) finding a venue and (b) getting a crowd that will CONTINUE to support you -everyone loves opening nights, but I personally having seen the fate of women's night after women's night, would be much more comfortable doing one-offs.

I would love to do a women's sauna night... just not on a WEDNESDAY (which is the only type of night the boys saunas are prepared to give up as they make a lot of money from boys on the other nights) and not without ALCOHOL... The alcohol I believe is necessary to allow women a little space to shed some inhibitions...

As much as I agree with Xane, that it is about chemistry, it is also about rituals and 'people knowing the rules'... As an example I'll tell you about the anonymous woman at Ken's who asked me in the sauna 'So what do you do?' My reply (which shocked her into a disgruntled exit) was 'Do you really want to know... aren't we just here for sex?' And why did my gal-pal and I get WRITTEN UP in LOTL for lying on the glass floor naked? Wasn't there anything sexier happening to report on? My raw knees from the sauna room seems to suggest that there was!!!

I think that cruising is an art form that gay men generally have had a lot more practice at than women, and it made the women's nights at Ken's fun but a bit stilted... and TG is totally right - some of the best public performance sex play between women I have seen at Hellfire and No Holes Barred (and elsewhere) has always come from bisexual women... so in my opinion, bring them on!!!

If it ever