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Katrina the mirrorball came out for Sleaze 2004 after a long holiday. She hung proudly in the centre of the RHI. At about 3am she emerged from her hiding place in the roof and was bombarded with blindingly bright lights and whatever else Alan Parkinson could throw at her. Last time Katrina was seen was above Taylor Square at Mardi Gras 2000. Katrina is named after Katrina Marton who was the Party Producer for Mardi Gras for many years.

Thanks to Peter of Petez Imagez for this photo.

Party Graffiti Wall 33
Party Graffiti Wall 35

Once *AGAIN* its all about me !!!

YAY !!!
New walls are all about me !!! - me me me me me - Tue 2 Nov 2004 22:13:57

you are a pinkboard institution!
Ms Golightly - Tue 2 Nov 2004 22:38:07

Dont forget its an early start and doors open at 9pm

DJ's - Stephen Blomfield 9pm to Midnight
Jake Kilby Midnight to 3am
Jimmy Dee 3am till Close.

Its going to be another fun trip down memory lane !!

.
Can't Wait - Tue 2 Nov 2004 22:47:22

are you still planning on buying me that drink?

I'm at retro on Friday if you are! Look for the pink blondie t-shirt!
Ms Golightly - (always the cocktail trolley) - Tue 2 Nov 2004 22:49:23

Tropical Fruits is my bet for NYE.
Escaping the hype, the crowds, and the let-down.
- Wed 3 Nov 2004 02:48:02

Hoping that Bear boy retro toy boy! - Thu 28 Oct 2004 15:41:18 will reveal himself to me on the night... (all done in the best possible taste of course) as well as catching up with Ms Golightly and the rest of the regular retro punters. Can't wait to hear what gems the guys have dug out of the vaults for us this time.

I'm bringing along some ex-punters of mine from the Taxi Club this time. It'll be great to be able to have a dance with them for a change instead of watching from the dj booth.
shanobear - don't forget HARD@T2 on November 14 - Wed 3 Nov 2004 07:43:28

I'm not able to get there till about midnite but there's no pre sales, are there likely to be queues or a sell out?
- Wed 3 Nov 2004 08:32:30

Whatever it is thats stopping you from getting there till midnight I strongly advise you to alter your plans.

Not only is there a fair chance that there will be queues at the door but you'll entirely miss the first DJ - Stephen B - who quite frankly I think is wasted in the first DJ slot at this event.
Adam - Wed 3 Nov 2004 08:43:33

Dear Ms Moore,

I am writing to you in reference to an issue that has been brought to your attention in recent weeks by a number of Sydney’s leading gay DJ’s by the names of Luke Leal and Stephen Blomfield

The issue they raised with you was the inadequate sound levels and non sound proofing of the major hall used at Mardi Gras run dance parties.

This hall (referred to as the RHI pavilion) has suffered badly in recent years and because of the lack of soundproofing coupled with noise complaints patrons at these vitally important community fund raising parties have been delivered a sub standard party with inadequate sound at what is supposed to be Sydney’s two biggest Gay and Lesbian events of the year.

I had lived my whole life in Sydney until 2000 at which point I moved to Queensland.However I have made it my commitment to travel back to Sydney for the Mardi Gras party every March and the Sleaze Ball party in October.

After the disgraceful sound levels in the RHI Pavilion at both Mardi Gras and Sleaze Ball this year I don’t think I can justify the expense anymore to travel down to Sydney for a party that due to the inadequacies of the space cannot deliver an enjoyable night.

I can’t help but imagine how many other people are thinking along these lines and I fear the worst for Mardi Gras unless something is done about the RHI Pavilion.

I urge you to help out the Gay & Lesbian community and endeavour with whatever means possible to obtain soundproofing for this grand old building.

Yours Faithfully,
.
Sean Cook - Miami , QLD - Wed 3 Nov 2004 09:58:48

9pm free

10pm $10

Arena: Luke Leal and Neal Crawford playing uplifting and progressive trance with special back to back cross over set

Vortex: Kate Monroe, Mike Kelly and Rado playing punchy house fused with percussionist Orville Dave and saxophonist Ross Tenor

A Friday has never looked so good
M x - Wed 3 Nov 2004 11:10:27

I definately will intorduce myself once again... We have met before maybe a little fuzzy at the time, but you were quite nice and cute

Looking to some bump n grind retro action maybe!
Bear boy retro toy boy! grrr! - Wed 3 Nov 2004 12:41:37

It didn't rock... it was ok nothing special!!

The music was ok, but the sound did seem a little ordinary and the party didn't have the same buzz as usual.

A little disappointing, but not a total loss. Still had fun, but for the price maybe it was not as good as previous parties.
Rawride for our wallets! - Wed 3 Nov 2004 14:37:36

PS: Coming up next year: Queer Nation Melbourne! Stay Tuned...
www.lukeleal.com - Wed 3 Nov 2004 15:11:55

Biversity is a club night for bisexuals and their friends - gay, lesbian, transgender, queer, straight, etc

Tickets are available from Toolshed Stores on Oxford Street, Darlinghurst and King Street Newtown.
$20 presale and $25 on door

More Info at bi.org.au/biversity
Some Bi Chick - Wed 3 Nov 2004 21:17:10

So when wouldbe the latest time to get to RS3 to avoid queues?

thanks heaps
- Thu 4 Nov 2004 11:34:03

Saturday 13 November
10:00pm
Suzie Q's (old Tantra next to Stonewall)
169 Oxford Street, Darlinghurst

Kate Monroe ~ Renae Stanton ~ Beatrix ~ Todd Woods (Winner DJ Comp – Bank Hotel)

Female Erotic Dancers
Lady K live! (Ministry of Sound, Sweatfest + her sexy dancers)
Sizzling Salsa performances
Pole Dancing – learn sexy new grooves
The Candy Box Love Police
Complimentary cocktail before 11pm

MC – Miss Sarah Shannon (BeatFM)

Win tickets for PRIDE NYE – wanna dance under the stars?

Tickets $25 (+bf) / $30 (at door)
Thru Hum Records (Newtown & Darlinghurst) & www.pridecentre.com.au

Get your ticket early, as sell out!

Win tickets at the Bank Hotel (Newtown) the 10th of November with "The Love Police".

Bigger, brighter and sexier every time!

Janine x
Miss Candy Lips
www.candylips.com.au - Thu 4 Nov 2004 14:09:30

Its a good solid line up of regular club style DJ's , HOWEVER...

2004 has been the year of the retro space at our big parties and in my opinion New Years Eve is the most retrospective night of the year requiring camp fun bubbly music

To not be supplying a retro space at this event is extremely short sighted and yet another blunder by Pride (but hey thats just my opinion)

However on the positive side it just means that the Retro space at Mardi Gras will be even huger due to one not being available at NYE.

I think I'll be saving my pennies and giving Pride a miss because Pride have again unfortunately failed to cater to my taste in music. Shame that.
Retro Retro Retro - Thu 4 Nov 2004 23:19:52

You have got be kidding! Can you please have a bit of perspective and look at numbers at these partes. MG 17,00 people. sleaze 10,500 people. What does retor cater for about 1,500 people.

Retro is by no means as big as you think it is.

It's fun, yes. But you can go to your local pub and put $10 in the jukebox for the same tunes. Go to your third cousins wedding for the same tunes. It's the same songs over and over again.

You want better production, world-class sound, and retro?

Never before have I been ashamed to be a homo!
Scotty Kangaroo Poo - Fri 5 Nov 2004 09:33:41

Heard that Stage 11 is anthems (with probably some retro), as I don't think the SX article mentioned music genre. Just because "retro DJs" were not chosen does not mean it cannot be played. Can't wait to get tickets!!
- Fri 5 Nov 2004 10:09:19

When I look at the DJ line-up, it's a bit hard to work out what the music might be like.

Can anyone help with some clarification/information?
jeffgg - hope Pride goes off - like it used to! - Fri 5 Nov 2004 10:55:09

So, I implore all the retro lovers to stop insisting that dance parties include retro spaces as it is getting very boring and if you don't watch out there will come an anti-retro backlash quicker than you can say "Laura Branigan is dead"
Gloria - Fri 5 Nov 2004 11:33:55

I urge all good christians to boycott this party
Fred - Fri 5 Nov 2004 11:58:02

Kudos Pride.
keep it fresh - Fri 5 Nov 2004 14:45:03

Miss L, Worth checking out a few places. The Court Hotel is a huge pub with massive beer garden. The newly opened EuroBar is very swish again with beer garden and of course there's Connections Nightclub which always rocks. Suugest you grab a copy of Out Newspaper on arrival and check for events at the time. Besides the main G&L venues mentioned there are many many more intimate and diverse clubs n functions going on around town. Enjoy your stay...
Perth Resident - Fri 5 Nov 2004 15:25:16

(Frankie Knuckles)

You make your own fun. A ticket price does not guarantee you will have a good night. No matter how massive the amount of attractions (djs/acts/production/venue/shows...etc), the sum of its parts do not make the whole unless you bring your share of good energy into the room.

Please remember this next time you go out, and make the most
- Fri 5 Nov 2004 15:44:37

DOME _ Higher energy, punchy house

OUT DOOR SPACE _ Funky house

STAGE 11 _ Uplifting, anthemic house
Matt Taylor SX - Fri 5 Nov 2004 15:48:00

*****THAT'S TRUTH!!!******

"Back in the day
It wasn't about the shoes
Back in the day
You could go out and just groove
I Remember...."
(Frankie Knuckles)

...now, was this taken from the cleptomaniacs or morales mix?

:o)
- Sat 6 Nov 2004 04:44:49

"Retro is a passing fad and the sooner it passes the better.
Norma Jean"
- Fri 5 Nov 2004 15:24:26

This comment really made me laugh. Passing fad? Ask the management of the Midnight Shift just how long the retro nights on Sundays has been a "passing fad" for. Remember all music becomes retro at some point.
shanobear - Sat 6 Nov 2004 07:30:30

and thanks for slipping in ye olde 70's standard 'DO YA WANNA FUnK [WITH ME]'

Getting older just got a little easier. great night!!
Homo Erectus - Sat 6 Nov 2004 07:49:18

The shows were awesome to see Cleo and Joyce as a bit darker was very funny.

Only Heard Jake and Jimmy, the two J's once again did a excellent job and always greet people with a smile in the DJ Box.

I wanted to go home at 3 but with the great Music being played it was hard to pull my self away.

Look forward to the next one, hopefully as part of Mardi Gras or leading up to it, then it will be huge with most of the world here

Well Done Michael and arq team
Sammy D - Sat 6 Nov 2004 09:15:28

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- Sat 6 Nov 2004 10:20:12

Caught the end of Blomfields set (who seemed to finish earlier than scheduled). Lots of fun tunes and blasts from the past.

Jake was great as usual and Jimmy was pretty good but I had to leave at 4am so missed the last few hours.

The crowd at this event is great. There's no pretention everyone sings along and there are smiles for days.

Thanks to all the DJ's , performers and management of Arq. You're on a winner here. I just hope there's one in December as well
Retro Retro Retro - Sat 6 Nov 2004 10:57:34

I too would love to hear Armin Van Burren and the Hordern ( in my opinion ) is THE venue to be.

I may just join you Trance boy. Sure I feel I should do the right thing and support Pride but after a few lack lustre parties ( again in my opinion ) and hearing all the great reviews about last years Home NYE party.

Hey Brad W - are you working the Hordern that night ? got group of friends going ? then we can maybe make our own space ?
I know , I'm only dreaming. - Sat 6 Nov 2004 11:46:08

However if your felt Raw Hide didn't deliver or you want to make a point of how the heat detracted from you having a good time please shoot them off an email - and this goes for any party or nightclub experience - it'll take you as much time as it does to post on here and if you politely make your point I'm sure your concerns will be addressed and even replied to.

I’ll get you started with their contact details:

info@rawhide.com.au
www.lukeleal.com - Sat 6 Nov 2004 17:32:59

I agree that the heat was overwhelming. It is an issue that us DJ's are raising with the promoters to ensure it doesn't happen in future. However, I must say thanks to them for doing what they could to alleviate the problem by putting up big fans and having people walking around with water sprays to help cool people down. Aircon would have been better, but they did what they could to try and make up for the fact that it seemed to break down.

Apart from that, I think it was a kick-arse party! Everyone I spoke to was having a hoot and the place was pumping until it finished. I can understand that a few people may not have enjoyed it (you can't please everyone), but to make comments suggesting that it was a bad party just sounds like you have a gripe and want to badmouth it.

Just because there aren't a lot of positive comments in regards to Rawhide made on this board doesn't mean anything. I think the percentage of party goers that contribute to this wall is probably quite small. Particularly when you bear in mind that this party is held in Melbourne, and as has been noted before, a majority of posters on this wall are from Sydney.

If you do have any issues you would like to raise, take Luke's advice and email the promoters. Why not help to improve the party rather than rip it to shreds? Support gay events otherwise we will lose them.

Now, in relation to Retro Sexual -

Thanks to everyone that came. It was, once again, a fab night. I think this may have even been better than the last!

To Gloria and Norma Jean, retro may not be your cup of tea, but others obviously like it. How does having a retro venue detract from your experience at a party? No further than having a hall dedicated to the music you like detracts from their experience at a party. If some people want it, let them have it.

Now, back to the positives! For those who are interested, here is my playlist from Retro Sexual 3. Unfortunately Stephen Blomfield had to finish early, so my set was from 11pm until 3am. Here goes:

Pappa dont preach - Madonna
Freedom - Wham!
Celebration - Kylie
Take me to your heart - Rick Astley
Heart of glass - Blondie
Jack & Diane - John Cougar M
She's not there - Santana
Strike it up - Black Box
Boys boys boys - Sabrina
I heard a rumour - Bananarama
Fascinated - Em Jay
I want that man - Deborah Harry
Knock on wood - Amii Stewart
Echo beach - Boys of a new age
Burning up - Madonna
Locomotion - Kylie
Groove is in the heart - Dee Lite
Love's about to change my heart - Donna Summer
C'mon and get my love - D'Mob featuring Cathy Dennis
Copacabana - Barry Manilow
Relight my fire - Take That
We are family - Sister Sledge
You should be dancing - Bee Gees
Rock the casbah - The Clash
Daddy cool - Boney M
Billy Jean - Michael Jackson
Santa Maria - Tatjana vs Kim English
Give me a break - Ralphi Roasario
Summer rain - Belinda Carlisle
Wanna be starting something - Michael Jackson
3 is family - Dana Dawson
Dance hall days - Wang Chung
The only way is up - Yazz
On the radio - Martine McClutcheon
If I could turn back time - Cher
Rooms on fire - Eutopia
www.jakekilby.com - Sun 7 Nov 2004 12:57:29

????

you are taking the piss, arent you ?
Mr Panties - Sun 7 Nov 2004 16:43:27

you are taking the piss, arent you ?
Mr Panties - Sun 7 Nov 2004 16:43:27

No, he wasn't! and it was fantastic!!!!

JK it was one of your best...loved it from wo to go! particularly Wang Chung.

As for the crowd at Retro....it doesn't get any better! what a happy, uplifting joyous bunch to be around.

Next time...can we have Mr Blomfield in the middle! I do love the magic he adds?
Ms Golightly - Sun 7 Nov 2004 18:31:54

Glad you enjoyed Ms Golightly! I had a hoot playing as always, and it's such a blast pulling out some of those old hits that people have probably forgotten about.

Unfortunately it takes a lot of time to do the work on some of those old tracks to get them up to speed and up to 'dancefloor' standard, so I'm going to start working on some tracks now so that I have a larger selection for next time.
www.jakekilby.com - Sun 7 Nov 2004 19:10:27

But for the partner and I, you made our night with Rooms On Fire. Been waiting for you to pull that one out for ages!

As I said in my previous posting, this was by far the best Retrosexual and all the bears with us that night echo those sentiments.
shanobear - Sun 7 Nov 2004 20:01:27

Although the club was somewhat tropical, half the party wasn't sitting down at 5:30. There weren't too many patrons in the venue either, just a higher concentration of them in certain areas of the club.

I had a ball from start to finish at this RawHide and the Viper Room recovery was the best to date. The party atmosphere is refreshingly different in Melbourne and they always seem to be packed full of great-looking, friendly people.

I'll be heading back down for New Year's and I'm absolutely busting at the seams - it's going to be a blast!
Dan Murphy - Mon 8 Nov 2004 08:44:57

I was just chatting to some friends over the weekend and all agreeed that if the fence could come down between the Hordern and Pride on NYE it would the perfect party. House Trance and Anthems.. all at one party. In a real world its not going to happen though..

Yes im working at the Hordern on NYE, I have been working on the site design for 3months already. Its going to be a lot of fun, never fear there will be a fair share of people from the GLBT community there as well.
Brad W - Mon 8 Nov 2004 17:15:04

Though if I was you, I would check out The Flying Scottsman on a wed night after 8pm for $8 jugs. Its sorta like the Bank..

Also check out Loop which is a Thursday night at Rise. When abouts are you coming?? There are usually things on here and there.. Though there are a few other pubs that you might like to check out..
kc - Mon 8 Nov 2004 20:05:11

In fear of labelling, I think the type of "straight" people that you get at a trance dance party in the Horden at NYE are very different to your run of the mill, homophobic straight people.

1/ They're more than likely pharmeseutically enchanced - drugged up people are happy people, as opposed to stella wife (or poof) bashers.

2/ They are obviously there to have fun, they've paid $x for a ticket, and I think their main priority is to dance and/or listen to the music - I doubt it's their aim to actively homobash.

Personally, I would love to start 2005 at a party which attempts to break down that sub-culture barrier. Wouldn't you?
Murray H - Tue 9 Nov 2004 07:27:48

Trancefusion is not this Friday. Mark your calendar for Fri 19th November.
M - x - Tue 9 Nov 2004 11:50:06

Your assuming that every straight party is full of people who want to bash people who are not straight. When was the last time you went to a straight event? If you ever have been to a striaght event did you see or hear of anyone getting bashed? Believe it or not quite a lot of queer people do attend straight events and vice versa.
Brad W - Tue 9 Nov 2004 13:49:37

Agree Brad... We go with a group quite often to straight events and are totally ourselves and the crowds are great. although we are a little selected with the events we choose, but the same goes for going out to a Gay club!

Events include Transmission (awesome trance parties HUGE!!)- my favourite as it's not just fluffy trance it goes harder, but very peekie, and great friendly crowds.

Field days, Utopia and a few club style parties. Crowds on most ocassions have been fine, to be honest I have probably had more horrible crowds on attending ARQ...

Go with a group and have fun, remember most of the people are there for that reason...
Music is the answer!! - Tue 9 Nov 2004 15:47:16

From Ruby email:

Matt Darey

The legendary Matt Darey is currently touring Australia to promote the launch of his new album.

The tour, titled "Matt Darey Ultimate Trance Tour" takes in the venues as listed below:

November 11th Adelaide - Surgery at Heaven
November 12th Perth - Rise
November 13th Sydney - Gas
November 14th Sydney – ARQ
November 19th Brisbane – Family
November 20th Melbourne - Altitude
As you can see, Matt is playing at Arq this coming Sunday night, and is supported by Greg Boladian and Luke Leal.

Some notes on the Album

It has now been a decade since Matt Darey’s debut release of li kwan – Point Zero was embraced by Dj’s like Paul Oakenfold who rated it as one of his all time biggest tunes and Pete tong who made it one of his first essential new tunes from the trance genre. Now after 10 years of bringing quality trance tunes to clubland, Matt Darey releases his first ever artist album “Decade”. The album features the best of all the Darey classics under his various pseudonyms from the past, present and future with all his biggest anthems like “Beautiful”, “Liberation” and “Lost Tribe – Gamemaster” along with the current and future releases on his new label Darey Products such as “Li Kwan - Point Zero2004”, “Lost Tribe – Possessed” and the first signing and forthcoming release on Matt’s new label Darey Products “Adam White - Ballerina”. The album is seamlessly mixed by Matt in the now gen! erally adopted style of “In Key” digital mixing that he pioneered on the first Euphoria Albums.

Also included are some of Matt’s purist Trance anthems Moody, Nocturnal Delight and From Russia With Love. All the tracks from the album have had the seal of approval from the worlds best DJ’s with major support from Tiesto, PVD, Armin, Ferry Corsten, Oakenfold, Sasha, Pete Tong, Seb Fontaine, Judge Jules, Dave Pearce, Eddie Halliwell, Johan Gielen, JFK, Scott Bond, Agnelli & Nelson, Lange, Pulsar, Tall Paul and many more.

Matt Darey on Air with Ruby

This weeks edition of "In Bed With Ruby" will feature an interview with Matt, who will be talking about the album, and will be playing some of his favourite tracks. In Bed With Ruby is on 87.6 Beat FM from 10pm till midnight each Sunday. Beat FM is now "web cast" for those people who are out of range of the narrow cast transmission. Log into http://www.beatfm.com.au Why not tune into the interview, and then head out to Arq to catch the man himself.

G.A.Y - the Final Party

Yes, thats right. The G.A.Y. team have announced their final party. It will be held at Midnight Shift on Saturday 4th December. Visit http://www.queerplanet.com.au/GAY for full details.
- Tue 9 Nov 2004 19:39:00

Music is the answer is correct ! its a dance party and people are there to dance and listen to the music.
Actually as a Plain Jane if I dare look at a muscle guy I invariably get a snarl, if I look at a cute twink I get a turned up nose, with a straight I more than likely get a great smile !

Fine by me if only Pride ticket holders get the offer ! I would happily pay extra to be able to get some trance for the night.
So , is it really out of the question ? - Tue 9 Nov 2004 20:18:49

Looking forward to Arq this Sunday night with Greg, Luke and Matt Darey! Also can't wait for TranceFusion - http://www.arqsydney.com.au/event_2004_11_19_trancefusion2.html

So much for a quiet month!
Craigy - Tue 9 Nov 2004 22:57:23

Pretty sure it's Mateo & Matos. It was out around 1999 so would be pretty hard to find now - they have a zillion & one compilations so you could probably find it mixed on one of them.
lovin' it - Wed 10 Nov 2004 09:35:27

Tickets on SALE Thursday 11th November from Hum Records, Tool Sheds and online from www.pridecentre.com.au

EARLY BIRD - limited release 1000 only $89 + BF until 8th Dec or until sold out, which ever come first.

FULL PRICE - $99 +BF

Fox Studio's: Byron Kennedy Hall (Dome), Stage 11 and Candy Bar (outdoor dance floor)

PRIDE brings back the Dome to it its orginal glory as a dark sexy dance space, along with Candy Bar our outdoor dance floor and Stage 11 our key performance space. See performances by Shauna Jensen and Phil Filo supported by Claire De Lune, Brown Skin and Sexy Galexy.

PRIDE NYE DJ's
----------------
Alan Thompson, Kate Monroe, Alex Taylor
Paul Goodyear, Chip, Kelly Lynch,Lexie Bradfield, Peter Fam, Shigeki, Renae Stanton, Sista P, David Hiscock, Tim Blanshard, Beatrix.

8pm – 8am
Fox Studio's Friday NYE 31st Dec 04.
Sydney PRIDE Centre - Wed 10 Nov 2004 11:32:42

Kate Monroe and guests
Sundays 5pm till midnight
$5 cover charge
191 Oxford St Darlinghurst

MEMBERSHIPS NOW AVAILABLE
-------------------------
For an annual membership fee of $25 you recieve;

- FREE entry on regular nights and 1/2 price for special events.
- Birthday guest list when you hold your birthday at Odyssey House Sundays
- Priority entry for you and 2 paying guests
- Weekly email with drink offers, guest DJ's and special privileges

This weekend Kate Monroe is playing a Marathon set 5pm to Midnight!! See you Sunday!
Kate & Jude - Wed 10 Nov 2004 12:39:09

10pm $10

Arena: Luke Leal and Neal Crawford playing uplifting and progressive trance with special back to back cross over set

Vortex: Kate Monroe, Mike Kelly and Rado playing punchy house fused with percussionist Orville Dave and saxophonist Ross Tenor

A Friday has never looked so good
Matt - x - Wed 10 Nov 2004 15:47:48

Not sure about this - check the title again. Mateo & Matos have a discography on their website. That title is not listed.
- Wed 10 Nov 2004 17:33:42

Yes there are a few of us heading to home on Friday 26th for Ferry... I have the night off!! WOO HOO!
Brad W - Wed 10 Nov 2004 19:00:58

saloon - garry tee, kate monroe, baby j (9pm-4)
theatre - mike kelly, buck naked (11pm-6)
deco - Trio DJ, Rick Robertson Trio (10pm-2)

plus kitty glitter
and percussionist cyndy tan
$10
hope that helps - Wed 10 Nov 2004 19:52:58

Sundays at the Lord Roberts Just got Better! We now have 2 fab weekly residents. Dj Mike Kelly and Dj Renae Stanton, so come down this sunday and welcome Mike to the team!

Loord Roberts Sundays 6pm-Mid (cnr Stanley and Reily St East Syd)
Lord Roberts Sundays - Wed 10 Nov 2004 21:14:21

Yes there are concession tickets and there are also special tickets for PRIDE Members.

Concession Tickets : $79 with a Health Card
Members Tickets : $85 with your PRIDE Membership Card

Concessions & Members Tickets are only available through the PRIDE Centre 104 Erksineville Rd ERKSINEVILLE Saturdays from 10am to 4pm.

As a PRIDE Member you also get access to the PRIDE Members Lounge which is sponsored by 42 Below Vodka, located on the top floor of Stage 11. You also recieve when you purchase your members ticket from the PRIDE Centre 5 additional passes to the Members Lounge to invite your friends into the Lounge.
Sydeny PRIDE Centre - Thu 11 Nov 2004 07:36:11

Price: Hordern $85 or Pride $89 - not much difference, just the cost of one drink.

Music: Hordern Trance and just one dance floor or Pride House music from driving punchy house, to hands in the air vocal house with 3 dance floors and plenty of chill spaces. Three dances spaces is always better than one, choice is good thanks Pride.

Crowd: Hordern 4000 Sublime Friday night straight kids or 4000 Gays & Lesbians at Pride. Thats an easy choice Pride.

Who profits from the night: Hordern a commercial organisation verses a not for profit community organisation that supports my community. Want to support my own first, Pride.

Hordern vs Pride: Easy choice Pride NYE
- Thu 11 Nov 2004 07:51:05

I find it very ironic the comment about 4000 Gays & Lesbians at Pride....as a means to promote Pride's Party. I know you were trying to compare the Home event and Pride but I am sorry such a compariaon doesn't really wash. This is the Pride who for years now have actually been bound up in their own politically correct inclusive 'sexuality doesn't matter' policies! It stopped being a gay and lesian organisation years ago.

Using such tactics like 'its a gay and lesbian party' and organisation for that matter now that they are trying to sell party tickets is just insulting.
- Thu 11 Nov 2004 09:52:35

Interesting point, im going to nit pick here though. Home NYE 5,500 people, 2 x dance spaces - yes the outside area is being used AKA Sleaze Ball, and its house.. I even believe Kate is playing..? As mentioned before sublime NYE is being targeted to the straight market, however there will be representitives from all parts of the community there, gay straight, bi, and all in between.

One thing you did miss out though is that home have one of the most expensive and popular DJ's in the world playing that night. A DJ that is wanted around the world on NYE, if you think that he is getting the same amount per hour as the other DJ's at either party you have got to be kidding. Believe it or not home is not this big nasty organisation that like to suck the blood from us all.... they are a great group of people who like to put on quality parties. We should be thankful that they have the balls and the cash to be able to get DJ's like Armin Van Burren and Tiesto out here on NYE - of course if thats your thing though.
Brad W - Thu 11 Nov 2004 13:10:18

Unfortunately due to not much else being on, people will probably attend.

I think though cheap advertising, cheap party... I think we will see on here, an ordinary NYE at Pride.. Watch this space!

I so wanted to attended but after seeing the poster I am considering other options...
Disappointed! - Thu 11 Nov 2004 15:26:04

have fun at Pride. Comparing "driving punchy house" and "hands in the air vocal house" to Horderns Trance is just such a laugh........You mean because there are 4,000 G & L's going to Pride , I should for go my favourite style of music ? not to mention favourite hall ? I have supported every Pride party since day one not to mention other events but when it comes down to spending my $'s I go to want I like. Besides the last few Pride NYE parties have been such hit and miss I am reconsidering my usual choice of Pride and correct me if I'm wrong but the last few parties have not sold out so bit of a gamble asking for 4,000 when last year they got just under 2,000 ( again correct me if figures are wrong ).
I go for the music not who I should support - Thu 11 Nov 2004 19:03:28

Just be glad there are choices to be had and have fun where ever you choose to go, and don't stress about what a 'horrible' time the people on the other side of the fence must be having due to their poor decision
- Thu 11 Nov 2004 19:32:22

Is there an Indulgence at the Shift? The Shift website is under construction again. Did that last NYE. First Pride I'd missed in 7 years but I refuse to go to any more events where the main venue is crappy City Live. That place should be torn down.

Would sure love to have seen Armin though. Why couldn't he have been at Arq or something? I'd have made the effort to see him there.

Anyway - Shhhh! - all this talk of trance music will have the retro-former-fashion-police out in a minute. Look out!
Trance Trance Trance - Thu 11 Nov 2004 20:36:10

Yep here I am.

So you want City Live torn down ?

Shame on you for saying such nonsence. The venue is a proven winner for Retro music. Just because you dont like the venue doesnt mean to say that THOUSANDS of others LOVE IT

You just watch those queues to get in when Retro makes a comeback to City Live. I'll be the one offering you a rag to wipe the egg off your face
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Retro Retro Retro - Thu 11 Nov 2004 20:42:48

http://users.tpg.com.au/adslko0l/Updater.htm

Lotsa great stuff coming up this month, Matt Darey @ ARQ, Trancefusion with Neal Crawford, joining the Manacle dayclub crew @ Bent and remixing Cosima! True story.

(And why is everyone comparing Pride and Sublime? Apples & oranges!)
www.lukeleal.com - Thu 11 Nov 2004 22:16:38

hahahahahahahahaha
- so astute - Thu 11 Nov 2004 22:22:59

Indulgence is NYD so Saturday Jan 1. Can't wait!!!
- Fri 12 Nov 2004 01:11:03

Last year a bunch of us went to Pride NYE and dare I say it was one of the best NYE we had. The outdoor space was brilliant and I think going to a medium size party made it for us. This year it looks like they have gone one better by adding the Dome and the DJ line up is pretty strong as well. Peter Fam, Lexie Bradfield, Chip and Kelly Lynch.

Good on you Pride, we coming back for more!
- Fri 12 Nov 2004 08:17:57

F'art (For Arts sake)..This is a one off Gay mad Party happening at Dimitri's, level 1, 358 Cleveland St, Surry Hills..

DJ's SVETA and Nicole Phillips.
10.30pm Show...Tammy from the Band Ezmeralda's performing, what a voice!!

12.30am Show..The sexy Dragking Rocco D'Amour.

You've been squashed, no where to sit, smoke blowing in your face...Come on down to F'art..we've got a seperate dance room with film, a fabulous retro 70's lounge with stage and seating for over 100. This is the maddest fun venue (its been hidden, and we've discovered it,) come see what a night you're going to have...Beer on tap, so that makes drinking el cheapo!! 2 bars. 2 tickets to be won to Harbour Party..and a crowd of mad sydney gay girls and boys...We want you at F'art..
- Fri 12 Nov 2004 09:56:19

Err...I agree! So much so I will be staying clear of it.

Is there an Indulgence on that weekend? Also what other plans have the clubs got happening? It's going to be a big weekend with the fireworks on Friday, a day at the beach on Saturday and then dancing til Monday.
Happy New Year - Fri 12 Nov 2004 10:02:26

Pride is a true community organisation. They hold their NYE party as their primary fundraiser to provide a community centre, to help other community organisations, and help fund community projects.

Unlike other major queer organisations, they don't stage their dance party merely to fund another dance party. I think it's a pity that people have lost interest so much in the Pride parties lately, and have opted to go for the commercialised, self-feeding, self-helping parties.

As for people who have publically make it known that the poster is awful, or the production is second rate:
Why don't you get off your critiquing arse and make a difference? Pride is run by volunteers. They put hundreds of hours each into putting on this party for you all, only to be bashed by your critical words. I shouldn't be surprised, really, but I am. I can't seem to comprehend how easily people can jump up on their soapboxes and point out the problems without even contemplating suggesting a solution. This proves nothing other than that you're a half-wit.

As for the DJ line-up this year, I think it's very exciting. It has some of Sydney's best local and internationally recognised talent, plus some of the newer ones. Alan Thompson, Kate Monroe, Alex Taylor, Paul Goodyear, and Shigeki.

For NYE celebrations, my mind has already been made up. To all of the people who have been posting supportive messages for Pride, I'll see you there!
- Fri 12 Nov 2004 10:05:37

I do believe BQN and even Mardi Gras parties have been cheaper than what Pride is offering yet for bigger halls and lighting rigs and international DJs and performances too.

Or does Pride have a surprise up it's sleeve??
- Fri 12 Nov 2004 10:24:45

Excellent DJ line up, great spaces, community event with proceeds back to the community and run by volunteers.

Imagine that there are many people giving up their NYE to help provide YOU with a great event....let's embrace and celebrate this.

See you on dance floor!
Already got my ticket.... - Fri 12 Nov 2004 13:56:15

Candy Lips @ Suzie Q's from 10:00pm this Saturday night

Win PRIDE NYE tickets!

Kate Monroe ~ Renae Stanton ~ Beatrix ~ Lady K live ~ Pole dancing (learn new moves) ~ Sizzling salsa ~ Erotic dance performances ~ Love Police ~ MC Sarah Shannon ~ Red/Green/Orange (what's your level of flirtation?) ~ Complimentary cocktail before 11:00pm...what more could a girl want.

Come along to see the DJs who will rock PRIDE NYE!

Tickets $25 (+bf) through Hum Records and online (www.pridecentre.com.au) / $30 (door)

See you there.

Janine
Candy Lips

PS - Those who hold a Candy Lips pre sales ticket, receive free entry into Odyssey before 7:00pm this Sunday night. See you at the Deckbar.
www.candylips.com.au - Fri 12 Nov 2004 14:19:46

I couldn't agree with you more. Those postings made me laugh so hard. I would attend many events if that was my deciding factor! Looks like a great event and people seems really happy with the DJ's and also the Dome. Good work.
- Fri 12 Nov 2004 15:36:03

"You just watch those queues to get in"

I was watching them at Sleaze - all crowded round the DJ/podium. They were so many and so thick I just couldn't get through them and into the RHI. The popularity is astounding, I agree.
Trance Trance Trance - (alarm goes off...) "Quick, Robin. To the retro-mobile!" - Fri 12 Nov 2004 17:20:33

What short memories some people have -- cast your mind back to the poster campaign for Sleaze last year. Ticket sales were abysmal until the poster campaign was redone.

The poster reflects the organiser's vision for a party -- look at the posters created by QN, Ruby, Toybox etc parties -- quality posters usually are a good indication of quality parties.
Creativity Sells - Fri 12 Nov 2004 17:36:12

I think that's a bit harsh on Mardi Gras, which in it's previous guise did immeasurable good for the community in supporting and promoting the development of a queer culture and identity beyond the bars of Oxford Street. Maybe you could read up a bit on yer history to get a better understanding of the context of the parties.

"I think it's a pity that people have lost interest so much in the Pride parties lately, and have opted to go for the commercialised, self-feeding, self-helping parties."
- ibid

Well I think Pride dropped the ball frankly about 4 years ago. After one overextended expansion into the RHI they seemed to pull back on the creativity (and no doubt the financial risk) so that the parties were not really that fabulous a night out. Understandable with their need to be financially careful but you have to "think fabulous" to make a party a great overall experience. I just think they were not as creative as they had been. The fast-disappearing crowd at dawn two years ago really sounded a sad note to me to the point last year I missed it for the first time in 9 years (since 31/12/95).

As for "commercialised, self-feeding, self-helping parties", Indulgence last NYE was incredible and it was $35 if I remember correctly. So I hardly think it was outrageous in cost - nor likley to have made an incredible (and self helping) profit for the Shift.

I think we just have to accept that organsers and events wax and wane. I hope Pride is fabulous again this year though. If the positive vibes on here can help make it great then it'll be a doozy!
Trance Trance Trance - back from the dead, obviously - Fri 12 Nov 2004 19:05:45

Candy Lips has sold out on the door previously (first girls night to be sold out in over 5 years!); however, it's in a new venue with bigger capacity due to popularity...suggest you get your ticket at Hum Records tomorrow or get to the venue early so you don't miss out on all the fun and frolicking.

Bring on PRIDE NYE!

Janine x
Candy Lips
www.candylips.com.au - Fri 12 Nov 2004 20:13:03

I also heard that the PRIDE Members Lounge is for volunteers...what a great way to say thanks! Bout time someone did something special for volunteers.

You have 2 choices - become a member or a volunteer....
- Fri 12 Nov 2004 22:24:38

This year, I've started going to a few more straight events for a change. I had feared that they would be filled with the homophobic DJ-facing idiots that some of the posters above have referred to - but I was totally wrong about that. At each of the events I've been to, the crowds have been very friendly and easy-going. Actually, I would even say that the crowds have been FRIENDLIER than your typical Saturday night crowd at Arq. As for the music at straight events, I guess it depends on which event you go to. The ones I've been to in the last 12 months have all been pretty amazing - for example, Godskitchen and Thirst (with Tiesto) were both outstanding!

As for the comments that the music at Pride will be better than at the Horden, WHO ARE YOU KIDDING? Armin Van Buuren is one of the top DJs in the world and I'll be paying less to hear him that you'll be paying to dance in City Live! I recently bought a recording of his live set from Ibiza this year - amazing! If he's anywhere near as good as Tiesto or Ferry Corsten (who I heard play overseas a few months ago - highly recommended for those who are thinking about seeing him next week), then I'd gladly pay TWICE the price they're asking and forego the gay crowd. In any case, I'm sure I'll get enough of the gay crowd at QN the following night!
Trance Boy - Sat 13 Nov 2004 02:15:16

I have just bought my ticket and the Cocktail Party is included in the price. What a great idea instead of sitting on the couch for 2 hours waiting for the party to open at 10pm, some one is thinking and is opening up one of the venues early.
- Sat 13 Nov 2004 08:00:53

Things are starting to change for the better, Pride might have pulled off a winner this year. I havent been to a Pride party for 2 years but I am going to give them another go this year.
- Sat 13 Nov 2004 08:29:49

Janine, please retract that statement about sold out women's nights as you are overstating the popularity of your night over those that have gone before you.
The BumpHerBar organisers for example ran a very successful night week after week as have others.
Have a good night in your new venue but over promoting is not a good thing.
Bgrrl - Sat 13 Nov 2004 14:20:42

Most people go out to get laid, even if they wont admit it to themselves or if its just a subconscious primal urge the bottom line is your going to a public space to find a potential mate wether it be for sex or a relationship or at the very least to find people like yourself.

Its rooted in your primal caveman genetics - your going out to a public place to meet the type of person you want to find there.

Obviously you judge what type of person will go there based on the advertising and marketing for that event, how else would you do it?

Its the poster that sets that scene for you. So we may all be really nice people who wont judge a party by its poster, but we judge what we sleep with by its looks, and we assume that the people who will go will all look like the ones in the poster and more significantly that they will be attracted to the event by its poster. What you see in the poster effects their decision, and you wanna be wherever they will be so you can meet them. Its that simple.

Marketing a party correctly matters. I know of 3 18-19 year old gorgeous blond twinks who didnt go to a ruby party "in bed with ruby - more fun than you can bear" because they thaught it was a party for bears!!! and they wanted to go somewhere with twinks so the poor little darlings didnt go. (true story)

A really good poster for any party would either be abstract (see toybox) or have a very HOT looking example of one or more or all of the various iconic stereotypes and could also include an example of a "nice" person also so long as there was someone hot as well.

Posters that are trying to be nice and equal opportunity and fair are forgetting the simple reality that we only wanna F$%^& what we think is hot, regardless of how much of a wonderful person it is.

"your really nice but I just wanna be friends" lets face it, you sleep with looks, and you party to have sex.

You can bitch and moan all you want about shallowness and the true meaning of friendship, but theres a time and a place for everything and a dance party is where you want to party not be politicly correct.

This is why people always complain about posters. They want porn. Give it to them, and stop trying to engineer society to be above its primal urges or fairer. Its natural, get over it.
Obviously - love reality, embrace human nature, enjoy life - Sat 13 Nov 2004 14:21:10

Let's follow their lead and have a 1am closure of all bars and clubs.

And why don't the police also do random raids of bars and clubs and pee test all patrons for drugs- just like in Thailand?
Purachai - Sat 13 Nov 2004 15:07:16
This message should be interpreted as being ironic.

The question that should be asked by Pride is WHY are people deserting them for theses commercialised,self-feeding,self-helping parties ?

I have supported every Pride party, I have also volunteered but when it comes to spending my $'s , I want to go where I know I will have great music. The last couple of Pride NYE's have been very average with numbers below 2,000 last year from memory. As a poster mentioned, Home party in the Hordern wont be full of 17yr old kiddies all facing the DJ's. Sure there will be some - I've actually seen some gay people doing that at QN. There will be enough of the party scene/gay crowd there to keep me happy. City Live and a tent just does not do it for me. Dome would have tempted me if no party in the Hordern.
Enjoy wherever you go - Sat 13 Nov 2004 16:37:21

that all changed way back... (possibly around the dawn of house music) - people started clubbing for the music - and a lot of us still do.. sex or picking up just ruins/shortens a decent nite on the dancefloor..

if i wanna pick up - i do a bar - not a club or party
cdb - meh! obviously - Sat 13 Nov 2004 18:42:46

$22 at the door with DJ's Sveta, Shanobear, NRK, Mickey D, Doug James.

I'm excited and can't wait to get there.
Shanobear - Sun 14 Nov 2004 09:11:59

'"your really nice but I just wanna be friends" lets face it, you sleep with looks, and you party to have sex.'

Obviously - love reality, embrace human nature, enjoy life - Sat 13 Nov 2004 14:21:10

I hate to break it to you sweetheart but some of us don't actually attend dance parties or nightclubs looking to pick up. Maybe I am the only one in 14 000 or so at Mardi Gras etc not looking for sex or to meet someone, but I doubt it. I go to have fun with my friends, listen to some fantastic music, and enjoy some amazing lights amongst what I always hope will be a smiley, happy crowd all having fun.
- Sun 14 Nov 2004 13:44:59

... go to a party to enjoy the music/lighting/production.
... how they manage to get it up is beyond me .
... No way would I want to spoil a good moment in the music or lighting. Sex you can get anytime.

Exactly !!!

8-)
- Sun 14 Nov 2004 14:11:36

Paul, thank you for many, many happy times. You're a classy DJ -- possibly the best this town has to offer -- and a good man. I will greatly miss those marathon sets of pure musical bliss. I look forward to hearing you spin your magic at other clubs around town on a Saturday night. For me it's bye bye Arq and to its straight kiddies...

So guys if you want to cath Paul's long-haul set one last time, next Saturday is your last chance. A good way to pay tribute to the Maestro...
RV - Sun 14 Nov 2004 16:59:39

Hi Shanobear, hope the party is a blast today. I would love to be there too but I’m up on the Gold Coast trying my best to adjust to the turquoise colour scheme in the apartment I’m staying in. Who would’ve thought the same colour could be used on the outside AND the inside of a building. Loving the cane furniture though, I’m so feeling like Rose from the Golden Girls…

All the best, have fun but most of all, stay hard!
Dan Murphy - Sun 14 Nov 2004 17:16:31

Although I have picked up before when I have been out, I don't think I have ever specifically gone out to pick up. Different strokes for different blokes, I guess...
- Sun 14 Nov 2004 18:20:35

Gee wizz, there will be multitudes of people who will be happy about this.

Maybe now Arq can put on some decent music on a Saturday night...maybe even move Retro Sexual to the occassional Saturday night
Retro Retro Retro - Sun 14 Nov 2004 19:56:20

How many people do you reckon would turn up to a Retro Sexual themed night on a Saturday night if they gotta pay twice the door charge? Retro in The Vortex wouldn't be so bad, but not in The Arena on a Saturday night.
- Sun 14 Nov 2004 21:55:16

So what have Arq got planned for Saturday nights now?
Trance Boy - Mon 15 Nov 2004 00:06:05

Thanks so much for your best wishes Dan, it's really appreciated.

I had a great time last night despite some last minute glitches. It felt great to be behind the decks again after a few months absence (not absinths.. that's a different story all together!).

My actual set went much better than I had anticipated and it was great to have so many people dancing at such an early part of the afternoon. I always get really nervous before a gig and more so yesterday as it was the first gig in a while.

A big thanks to those who came along to support me and to those already in the venue who really enjoyed what I was playing.

A bonus for me last night was getting to meet Sveta and hear her play. I might have only done a couple of gigs this year but I've been fortunate enough to work on the same bill as some really wonderful people.

Unfortunately I couldn't stay as my partner had to start his new job early this morning but I had a lot of fun while I was there.
shanobear - Mon 15 Nov 2004 06:35:59

It's already been on this year back in February.
Turn back time - Mon 15 Nov 2004 21:14:09

when?? thats so cool!!
- Tue 16 Nov 2004 00:56:37

Winter woolies - after the events of the last week in Melbourne, bring everything from suntan lotion to your wellies. You decide what works best in a clubbing environment. Expect everything and nothing.
lovin' it - Tue 16 Nov 2004 09:06:18

This question is quite narrow sighted. Why does anyone think that the use of ecstacy is limited to 'young people'?
- Tue 16 Nov 2004 11:26:12

I think that's the point. It is channel 9 after all. I think they are just looking for a validation of their view, not a balanced one.
u.w. - those poor victimised kids...please vote to save them...I can almost see ray martin shaking his head. - Tue 16 Nov 2004 15:18:42

I think, generally, young people have far less knowledge on drugs. The topic's claim isn't limiting the use of ecstacy to young people, anyone knows that's far from true.

I do think that drug education should be focused (mostly, not completely) on young people.
- Tue 16 Nov 2004 15:23:26

Arena: Luke Leal and Neal Crawford playing uplifting and progressive trance with special back to back cross over set

Vortex: Kate Monroe, Mike Kelly and Rado playing punchy house fused with percussionist Orville Dave and saxophonist Ross Tenor

A Friday has never looked so good
Matt - x - Tue 16 Nov 2004 15:28:46

Show us your beats!

This weekend, Velocity is hosting a DJ competition for GLBTQI youth and their friends - the DJ Beat Off. The competition will provide a rare opportunity for aspiring young DJs to get their foot into the industry and show off their skills. The winners will be selected by audience voting.

The Beat Off will be held at Stonewall Hotel in the VIP Bar (third level), on Sunday 21 November from 6pm until 11pm. Attending the event will be a broad range of dance party and club promoters scouting for new talent to offer bookings. One primary example of this is the Sydney PRIDE Centre, who will be selecting a DJ to play at the pre-party Cocktail Party at PRIDE NYE.

The DJs which will be competing include:
6.00pm - 6.50pm DJ Shade
6.50pm - 7.40pm DJ Mags
7.40pm - 8.30pm DJ Todd Woods
8.30pm - 9.20pm DJ Scottie Lupton
9.20pm - 10.10pm DJ Murray Hood
10.10pm - 11.00pm DJ NRK

The winner, which will play at the pre-party Cocktail Party at PRIDE NYE, will be selected by audience voting. So come and vote for your favourite DJ!

Gold coin donation. This is an 18+ only event.
DJ Beat Off - Show us your beats! - Tue 16 Nov 2004 15:52:56

Because the Howard Govt's imported War On Drugs strategies are focussed on "Ohhh .. think of the children".

If the govt were to actually admit there are several generations of otherwise law abidding citizens holding down a vast myriad of jobs contributing to this country's economic "success", whilst making their own personal decision to consume recreational drugs during their recreation periods, then the whole premise of "Drugs Are Bad" would be shown for what it is.
Drugs Are Bad ... mmkay? - Tue 16 Nov 2004 16:25:30

The number of high profile money makers/lawyers/QC's and A list stars I personally know who enjoy a pill or two now again would make Howard sit up and think.

It makes me laugh that they allow alcohol and cigarettes get sold ( of course they earn huge $'s from taxes ) yet the condone pills/powders ( which the earn no $'s from taxes ).

In a perfect world I would love the Govt to allow pharmaceutical companies to manufacture our drugs for us so we get quality and no worries about buying shit like those red mitsubishi's. Then the Govt could tax them as well but for the price the companies could make them for plus tax , I reckon we'd still be getting them cheaper than we currently pay.

Has there ever been a proper review done comparing alcohol drinkers to drug users to how they do there jobs, cope with life etc etc etc ( not talking those addicted to both ).
I was told that occassional pill/powder usage does not overly effect the body when you take into account what legal drugs we take that are dispensed by the Dr's/Chemists.
No drug / alcohol is harmless but is one worse than the other ?
Just curious - Tue 16 Nov 2004 17:41:21

My question comes from the point of view that it would benefit every person who uses, takes, enjoys, experiments with - call it what you will - ecstacy.

I think the poll question comes from the basis of gauging a response to the 'harm minimisation' vs 'zero tolerance' debate. The issue that I have is how the question is framed. I'm certain that this will determine the outcome - it's a basis market research strategy.

The terms are ambiguous and open to personal interpretation. There's no point voting in such a poll.
- Tue 16 Nov 2004 18:28:53

If you do some good research, you might run in to a moment in Aus. history where Australia suggested some thing similar to it. But the Americans stepped in. This single superpower and the billions they’ve invested in the ‘war on drugs’ have created an industry in its own right. It’s a lot more powerful than the tobacco lobby. We can only hope for a better (distant) future.

If you do some good research, you might run in to a moment in Aus. history where Australia suggested some thing similar to it. But the Americans stepped in. This single superpower and the billions they’ve invested in the ‘war on drugs’ have created an industry in its own right. It’s a lot more powerful than the tobacco lobby. We can only hope for a better (distant) future.

The attempted centralization of the funding of the health care services will finally give the Feds the control they need to dictate the abstinence based policies state governments been rejecting for years.
u.w. - will it be faith based initiatives next? - Tue 16 Nov 2004 21:52:45

Please explain?
- Wed 17 Nov 2004 10:22:21

Vortex: Kate Monroe, Mike Kelly and Rado playing punchy house fused with percussionist Orville Dave and saxophonist Ross Tenor

A Friday has never looked so good
Matt - x - Wed 17 Nov 2004 15:11:41

So the burning question now is this - What new bright shiny nightclub is on the horizon for us gay people to take under our wings and call our own only to have it slowly taken away over a period of about 3-5 years by straights ?

Sound familiar ???

It should.
Aiden - Wed 17 Nov 2004 17:31:59

Please! Arq doesnt need anymore help. There are full page adds in both papers (guaranteing advetorial) Please dont clog the board with exactly the same posts. Dont be greedy now!
a pinkboard lover! - Wed 17 Nov 2004 18:05:08

What rubbish. ARQ is managed & staffed by members of the gay community and marketed exclusively toward the same. While some people seem to see the fact that ARQ have been hiring out Friday nights to outside promoters (gay & straight) as some sort of death kneel - it is simply a smart business decision in making the club available when the market wouldn't support a 4th night there.

You're wrong to compare what happened to DCM to now - take it from someone who was there. I played DCM from '95-'99 and was witness to when it all went horribly wrong at the end. DCM never even pretended that the gay community was a priority and I know for a fact it is for ARQ.

I would suggest that if you want ARQ to remain gay that you support it with your patronage. If you feel the club could do more to make your night out more enjoyable then shoot them off an email with some constructive criticism - they're quite open to hearing feedback from the punters and it'll take as much energy as it takes for you to post on Pinkboard.

With Sydney clubland in such a flux it'll be a long time until someone comes along and spends millions on a club again. Make the most of what we've got and maybe get involved. FagTag was created because those guys wanted to see something different - why don't you do the same?
www.lukeleal.com - Wed 17 Nov 2004 19:38:53

Whatever happened to the premise that if you don't like it ... don't go !!!

I know that gay communities tend to get very possessive of 'their' venues, and some venue owners/operators take financial advantage of such loyality by failing to reinvest in the venue, but at the end of the day they are operating a business, not a community organisation.

You'd moan if the only choice was Club Livingroom
arqing hell - Wed 17 Nov 2004 20:48:40

Well said Luke.
www.djjustinscott.com - Wed 17 Nov 2004 21:11:23

For God’s sake, please say you’re joking!

Anyone who claims that they can’t distinguish between Trancefusion and the Josh and Friends trance nights must be blind and deaf - surely!

On top of that, they can’t be genuine followers of the uplifting, progressive trance genre championed by Luke Leal and Neal Crawford - two of the Country’s highest profile and most respected DJ’s.

Trancefusion (and the Ruby variation, Transend) is really for those who LOVE this style of music. In my experience, these events attract a friendly, happy, up-for-it, enthusiastic, and 90% GAY crowd.

The first Trancefusion party was a great night, and with both Luke Leal and Neal Crawford set to play this Friday, I reckon it’s going to go off, BIG time.

So, ask your friends to read the gay press occasionally. If they had been doing so, and if they genuinely followed this style of music and these top shelf DJ’s, there would be no confusion as to which night is which.

Having said that, one quick point about the straight trance nights. The straight followers of this style of music seem to be, in my (limited) experience (such as at Above and Beyond) a pretty friendly, non-judgemental crowd, who are looking for nothing more than a good time dancing with friends to fantastic music. I reckon those who are worried about partying with that crowd are worried about nothing.
jeffgg - Wed 17 Nov 2004 21:35:41

How wrong you are. (But I respect your opinion)

I have worked in many venues, gay & straight (mostly gay), and I have to say that Arq is probably one of the best (& safest) venue I have had the pleasure to work in.

Michael Slavin (Arq's current Promotions & Marketing Manager) is doing a brilliant job in offering patrons (both new & old) a different theme night almost every weekend. He's tapped into the current trend of variety offerings.

In this day & age, it's refreshing to have a venue that caters to people from all music tastes ie Retro, Trance, House, Commercial etc. Most venues prefer to play it safe by selecting just one of the just-mentioned, as their main identity. The trouble with that is, it leaves the business limited to a minority. Arq has chosen not to go down that path, and as result, has proven itself as a successful venue.

Whether it be a "straight" or "gay" event is irrelevant. Arq aren't about to ditch the gay community, simply because they have a straight event on, and visa-verse. Everyone is welcome. Unlike DCM (shorlty before it went pear-shaped), security and management do not tolerate homophobia.

This is 2004, and having been actively involved on the gay scene for almost 20 years, I can honestly say that I have seen a dramatic (and positve) change when it comes to who frequents which venues on which nights and what their sexual orientation is. It's all good... Trust me!

Having said all this, if you have it fixed in your mind that Arq is heading down the same path as DCM, then there is nothing I or anyone else on this board can do that can change your mind... All I ask you is don't preach your beliefs onto others.
www.djjustinscott.com - Wed 17 Nov 2004 21:51:08

Would love to see a big, happy, friendly crowd on Friday! I know there are plenty of people heading there so the more the merrier!
TJ - Thu 18 Nov 2004 00:13:24

Aiden - Wed 17 Nov 2004 17:31:59.... What Rubbish!!

Luke is completely correct, ARQ is managed and promoted by gay folk.... what more can some of you want..? They run events targeted at the gay market and when there is a gap in the market on a Friday night they fill it, thats just smart business.!

I work in the two biggest Sydney clubs every single week and see what goes into running them, promoting them and making sure that the clientèle are happy- its hard work.

"Whatever happened to the premise that if you don't like it ... don't go !!! "

I believe that I quoted this a while ago on this board and got shit put on me from every possible level - that was a great week!

I'm not about to say this again but I will say that if you don't like what you see get in contact with the club and tell them, suggest what could be changed and why it should be changed...
Brad W - Thu 18 Nov 2004 00:47:16

not to mention some of the city's hottest funksters downstairs playing with supertalented live musos...
- Thu 18 Nov 2004 06:24:19

Well, I go to arq *every* week, I love arq, I love Paul's music too. I havent missed a week since mardigras. I can assure you of two things.

1) The shift is better in some ways.

2) Arq is 33% str8 on saturday nights these days. Unless youve been there every week for the last few weeks I suggest you dont criticise this observation.

Regarding my point on the shift let me simply say this : Last sunday while Matt Darey was playing arq, we all got to hear just how wonderful the arq sound system is yet again with the speakers popping and craking and breaking as usual for god knows whatever reason. It often happens every few weeks, its been that way all year. At least at the shift you dont have that problem!

As for "if you dont like it dont go" Im simply making comment, I still go, because its the best option we have, and because I know the staff are doing their best. Perhaps the owner should be reading this thread.
- Thu 18 Nov 2004 10:56:15

They are starting a new residency at the fabulous Home Bar, by the Harbour at Cockle Bay.

Expect to hear live funky lounge grooves, a DJ cutting up acapellas & sould Diva, Evelyn Dupre.

$5 Heinekiens
Discounted wines & bubbles.

Come & soak up the sunset in style...
- Thu 18 Nov 2004 11:08:05

why dont you email him... web addresses can be found on www.arqsydney.com.au
- Thu 18 Nov 2004 13:30:15

I didn't hear the popping, cracking and breaking - and I don't know why you would suggest that such a thing was "as usual" - I get out on the floor before and during my sets to keep an 'ear' on the sound and am not aware of this happening but if it was, here are a few reasons why -

1. Matt was pushing the system almost TWICE as loud as it should be set. Unlike Home, ARQ doesn't have an on site sound person to work with problems like this when they occur with guests. As it is not clear whose responsibility it is no one is going to go up to an international and say "geez-us mate, turn it down!" lol

2. Like a few internationals - and one or two locals - he had insisted on using a Pioneer DJM-500 mixer - these are very DJ friendly mixers, hence their popularity, but they're are not suited to large systems and certainly not ARQs. They produce a low quality sound with a severe lack of clarity - no warmth with messy mids & highs. I'm campaigning to have them banned from the venue. (He also used solely cds, which could have also contributed to the blarey sound quality)
www.lukeleal.com - Thu 18 Nov 2004 14:08:42

If I had intended for Trancefusion to be targeted towards the straight community I wouldn't have spent 3 weeks advertising it in the gay press. You'll notice the "Josh and Friends" trance nights that are occasionally held at ARQ (we hire the venue out to them approximately every 6 weeks) don't generally advertise in the gay press, and don't have the ARQ logo in their artwork beacuse it is not an ARQ production. You will normally see their ads in publications such as 3D world - a place where you will never see an ad for an event produced by ARQ. We only produce special events that are targeted at the gay community and we consider ourselves enitrely a gay venue and the gay community is and will always be our top priority.

I hope this clarifies everything for your friends who are confused.....
Michael Slavin - Promotions and Marketing Manager - ARQ Sydney - Thu 18 Nov 2004 14:59:21

Could it be that when the DJ is located down on the stage, they can’t hear the sound output as well? Although, on the other hand, there have been plenty of Aussie DJ’s play on the stage, and the sound has been fine.

But I must admit that I have heard the speakers at ARQ making some unusual popping sounds from time to time, even when not being pushed. To my un-trained ear, it seems to mostly come from the speaker above the right hand side of the stage (as you face the stage) and sounds a bit like an "echo" of the beat of the track being played (excuse my layman's description!)

BTW, has anyone here been to one of those Josh and Friends trance nights? I wonder what they're like, and whether they play the harder style of non-vocal trance that seems to be preferred by the straight crowd. Matt Steer from Brisbane often plays this style. Has anyone been, and can perhaps comment?

Anyway, I can't wait to see what the Leal/Neal/Campbell-Wright/ARQ team cook up for us tomorrow night. Should be a blast! : )
jeffgg - Thu 18 Nov 2004 17:11:23

This Sunday at the Lord Roberts Hotel.
Resident Djs Mike Kelly and Renae Stanton each in a mamouth 3 hour set.

FREE ENTRY 6pm-Mid, easy-peesy goodtimes and fun.

Love to see you for a drink.
LRH sunday Crew - Lord Roberts Hotel Cnr Stanely and Riely East Syd. - Thu 18 Nov 2004 22:46:58

You can download sets from A Night of Trance @ Arq from <a href="http://www.trancetribe.com/pages/mp3.php" Target="_Blank">Trance Tribe</a> and they have reviews there from punters.

It is interesting that the reviews by actual punters comment on the music, lighting, and venue, but make no mention of the sexuality of the crowd. Perhaps there's a lesson to be learnt there for some?

These "A Night of Trance" events that are put on at various venues by Joshua Van Aalst and the Trance Tribe DJ's are all about the music and the appreciation of it without attitude.

I believe that I quoted this a while ago on this board and got shit put on me from every possible level - that was a great week!

I'm not about to say this again but I will say that if you don't like what you see get in contact with the club and tell them, suggest what could be changed and why it should be changed...
Brad W - Thu 18 Nov 2004 00:47:16

Brad, the problem is that your comments on here will probably always be, rightly or wrongly, regarded by some as being the opinion of:

Firstly ... a contracted employee of ARQ
Secondly .. a professional in the "gay entertainment" industry; but
Lastly .... as an individual in the gay community

so unfortunately, you may need to temper your posts accordingly, as you have in this post, with positive suggestions of how people can get off their butts and send their gripes to the appropriate people.
arqing hell - Thu 18 Nov 2004 23:07:44

Arqing hell... you are completely correct... I'm now re-thinking some of the things I post here in an attempt not to have the world come crashing down around me during the week... I do think that I should be able to speak my mind.. however am now a bit more mindful.

Ok... re Josh and Friends, i have not been but I have heard great things from many people and have seen how it effects sublime @ Home on a Friday night, they are doing great things and attracting a crowd... be it gay or straight, who cares as long as the music is good!

Re.. Transfusion... eek... neither Campbell or I are working this one, Campbell has actually left ARQ and the country for about 6 months to work o/s and I was already booked at home, never fear though as Renee will be in control and will keep things rocking for you!

Re Sound at ARQ last weekend, yup Matt did have the system running very hot, there was not much I could do - and no I wasn't about to ask him to turn it down! I did what I could from the box, but as Luke has already stated those Pioneer mixers are no good for big systems such as ARQ or Home, we are trying to ban them from home... they really are bedroom mixers only.

Re Paul Goodyear's last Saturday set this sat night. I suggest that if you are free then go and support one of the people that has made ARQ the super club that it is. I cant wait to finish work on Sunday morning and get to ARQ to have some fun and support him.... plus it will be my birthday... who can say what will happen!

Now finally, the main purpose of this.... (this really has been long) I was just going to ask if anyone else is going Ferry Corsten and/or Parklife next weekend. I noticed that Fuzzy marketing have been advertising in SSO the past two weeks... keen to know if any others are going?
Brad W - Fri 19 Nov 2004 00:17:59

Michael Michael Micahel. You just lost some dignity defending yourself here against the 10 people who post.

Most of gay Sydney still love ya! Remember that.
Michael's Poster Boy - Fri 19 Nov 2004 08:39:06

http://www.ferrycorsten.org/upload/gallery/ferrycorsten1(1).jpg

yeah yeah, i know, it's all about the music, but lately for me, it's all about the $$$. If I can afford to go, i just may
- Fri 19 Nov 2004 08:45:04

Evil Twin - Fri 19 Nov 2004 10:09:36

Trained industry ears will always have something to say about the sound - but when people on the dancefloor are hearing problems, you know they're serious problems!

Good luck getting them barred, guys.
- Fri 19 Nov 2004 10:21:31

That doesnt mean we shouldnt discuss this sensibly. This is the "party" graffiti wall, presumably we are all clubbers who love to go out and party and we just want a better clubbing experience right?

I dont know about you guys but I want to be able to go out on saturday every week to a venue that is packed to the rafters every week with people who are passionate about being there. Remember when arq was packed to the rafters and closed upstairs at 8am ?

Im wondering what happened to that, and how we might get it back. If thats not what you want then stop reading and move on. If you would love a big happening saturday scene in sydney then please help.

Im posting this to ask all of you who like to go out regularly on a saturday night to email arq and tell them what it would take to get you to show up at arq every saturday.

Also each of us should go out and get 10 of our friends who dont read this wall to do the same. Im sure that the vast majority of regular clubbers I know dont even know this website exists, its certainly not a broad sample of the clubbing community.

I dont think any one person has the answer, so theres no point at all in people posting on here saying what arq should or shouldnt do.

If we want to go out and be in a huge crowd then what we need to do is find out what *most* people want rather than rant about what one person or one loud minority (yes that means you retro freaks) thinks everyone will want.

And before we get the usual people ranting about the virtues of retro, Ive been to all 3 retrosexual nights, and as fab as they are, only one had the place totally packed (for about 3 hours) and none had the place full much past 4am so please can we drop it.

My personal goal is that arq is at capacity at 2am and theres still 400 people upstairs at arq every saturday morning at 8am. Its been done before. I miss it, so do many others I know.
I miss everyone! - Fri 19 Nov 2004 11:18:51

http://www.smh.com.au/ftimages/2004/11/19/1100748183833.html

I hope everyone gets out of the heat and into a cosy club tonight and dances their bottoms off! I know I will.
Evil Twin - Fri 19 Nov 2004 13:58:55

Ok guys, now, with Panthers permission, I'd like to plug a couple items...

1. www.djjustinscott.com - Updated with News, Top 10, New Music, Gigs etc... Log on now!

2. Retro & Party Anthems @ Manacle kicks off this Sunday afternoon from 4pm to 9pm - DJ Yours Truly playing all the tunes that made clubbing fun in the late 80's and early 90's. As usual, requests welcome. Worth a check.
www.djjustinscott.com - Fri 19 Nov 2004 18:47:23

If we want to go out and be in a huge crowd then what we need to do is find out what *most* people want rather than rant about what one person or one loud minority (yes that means you retro freaks) thinks everyone will want. I miss everyone! - Fri 19 Nov 2004 11:18:51

I take HUGE umbridge at being labelled a "freak" and call for the above post to be moderated or deleted.
Retro Retro Retro - Fri 19 Nov 2004 19:27:28

A Night Of Trance – December 3 – ARQ!!!
It’s now just 2 weeks till the final A Night Of Trance for 2004! For only $15 you can witness some of Sydney’s finest uplifting trance DJs going head to head at Sydney’s premier uplifting trance event: A Night Of Trance!

Main arena dance floor:
Diggs n Morro vs Stama
- Uplifting and melodic trance super set
Joshua van Aalst vs Matrix
- Epic power trance set
Rob Noble vs Muli
- Euphoric and harder edged uplifting trance set
Marishka vs Jayde
- Ultra euphoric and anthem trance set

Vortex dance floor:
Karvan & Condivi (LIVE)
Enerv8 (Canberra)
Paul Doran (Surge)
Whisper (Breed)
G Banga (Breed)
Rossco (Newcastle)
Luke Sykes (TranceTribe)

Cost: Only $15 before midnight and $20 after
Time: 10pm till very late (the last event went till 7:20am)
- Animal Nitrate - Fri 19 Nov 2004 19:41:50

ULTRA 3
What is ULTRA? ULTRA is a pure uplifting and euphoric rave. Nothing but massive break downs, build ups and soaring vocals all night long. It’s just plain madness
The third installment of ULTRA is on January 7th at ARQ and we have a massive lineup for you:

Main arena dance floor:
Yoshi - Euphoric Hard Trance DJ and Sampler set
Matrix vs Micky D - 3 Deck Uplifting Hard Trance Set
Weaver - UK Uplifting Hardcore
Suae - UK Uplifting Hardcore
Haze vs Tom E - Happy Hardcore
Joshua van Aalst - Euphoric Trance
Destiny - Anthem Trance

Hosted by MC Obi and MC Destiny

Vortex dance floor:
Jayde (Euphoric Trance)
Scape (Hard Style)
Peter Fly (Euphoric Trance)
Rosco (Euhporic Trance)
Ty (Happy Hardcore)
Nex Level (Happy Hardcore)
Mark Davis (Hard Trance)

Hosted by MC Riddle

Cost: $20
Time: 10pm till very late
- Animal Nitrate - Fri 19 Nov 2004 19:45:09

i agree that the sound quality is not as good, but if you output a pioneer on a low output from the desk and bump it up at the amp (providing you can stay constantly on top of your max volume), you can do ok with them.

the reason i love that mixer (well up until they made the new multi-option x-faders, so up until djm500) is the ability to cue volumes clearly and accurately (only bettered by the big A&H mixers), to fade smoothly, to tweak responsively (though not as well as mixers with additional eq faders like some vestax)

pioneer allows a dj to be free to play.
not an ad but now i feel like one - Fri 19 Nov 2004 20:24:06

I agree with you. The poster had me roped in until that comment. I also dont totally agree with his observations of the 3 Retro Sexuals.

Retro may not be everybody's thing, and I don't think it would work on a Saturday night at Arq, as previously suggested, but to slag off a group of people and what they like is the kind of unconstructive criticism that should be moderated. It does nothing except insult people and get them hot under the collar. Subsequently, that whole post lost any validity or meaning for me from that point on.
- Fri 19 Nov 2004 23:13:05

Having just left 'trancefusion' @ 1:00 i just want to let you know that what you were playing up to that point was not trance! It was good music but swaying more towards techno/house. Not really 'uplifting euphoric trance' as it was advertised, which was such a goddamn shame and dissapointment, as it sucked having to leave. Trance is more what would be played at Ruby's parties or A Night Of Trance parties. You played a bit ( whirlpool's under the sun and that other one with jan johnston singing) Anyway, bloody hell, don't mean to sound like a geek, i'm just dissapointed and am at home now listening to trance..so it's all good.

love
tranceaddicts
TRAAAAAAAAANCEEEE - Sat 20 Nov 2004 01:55:09

www.lukeleal.com - Sat 20 Nov 2004 03:13:08

as luke said, it is a night that looks beyond commerciality, and one we're proud of...

see you next time
mike kelly - Sat 20 Nov 2004 05:40:53

My 5 cents worth - Sat 20 Nov 2004 10:31:04

"dear mr luke leal ... Trance is more what would be played at Ruby's parties or A Night Of Trance parties"
Well it was trancey enough for me! There's many degrees and flavours of trance. Darren Tate my fave this week. The sun is shining down on me. Now I feel you... (Hold that thought!)

"Diggs n Morro vs Stama; Joshua van Aalst vs Matrix; Rob Noble vs Muli; Marishka vs Jayde"
Who are all these people and why do they all have to play all at once? THIS is why I don't go to straight parties (apart from all the other reasons lol). I guess I'm just gonna have to brave it for Armin@Hordern, though.

TRANCEFUSION
Great night out at Arq last night. Left about 3:30 (I think) to go plunder and pillage for a couple of hours at another venue. But up to that point I had a great time.

Neal - thank you for "Just Be". You are a beautiful beautiful man. (Time to go hit the big time babe - book yer flight to Miami and go impress em all.)

Luke you are a God. Was looking for you to tell you so in person after your set but I eventually gave up and went back to dancing and lusting after the eye candy!

Was a really nice (and nicely aged) crowd last night. Not toooo twinky and very very sexy. Hmmm - one v cute sexy man on the dance floor could seriously have done with a shower, though! Yummy, but... Euw!
Trance Trance Trance - Oh, my head hurts! - Sat 20 Nov 2004 12:47:56

Why would you have gone home at 1:00 when Neal Crawford was coming on soon after? That's like going to a grand final and leaving at half time! (or perhaps in your case going to a Cher concert and leaving at the 4th costume change)

And I pity the DJ who tries to introduce new music. When nobody's heard it before, they're shot down, and when it's been heard a couple of times they're legends!

Expand your horizons Champ 'cos you never know when you're hearing the next big thing for the first time.
George - Sat 20 Nov 2004 13:05:16

Thanks guys for making such an effort ... it's going to be a great night ... I can feel it in my waters! ... can't wait for December 17!!
GD - Sat 20 Nov 2004 13:30:20

Received my Ruby @the Chocolate Factory ticket this week and just wanted to say that if the work that has gone into the design of the poster and the tickets (a block of Ruby chocolate in a Ruby wrapper!) is an indication of what we can expect on the night ... then we are in for a fantastic party!
Thanks guys for making such an effort ... it's going to be a great night ... I can feel it in my waters! ... can't wait for December 17!!
GD - Sat 20 Nov 2004 13:30:20

*********************************************
WARNING
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Ruby @ The Chocolate Factory is at ARQ
*********************************************

As I said in an earlier post, the poster reflects the organiser's vision for a party and quality posters usually are a good indication of quality parties.
<p>
Creativity Sells - Sat 20 Nov 2004 14:49:31

I’ve said it here before and I’ll say it again: If you’re going to complain so strongly, it’s always a good idea to spell check first…

Kisses!
xo
Dan Murphy - Sat 20 Nov 2004 20:42:00

Evil Twin - Sat 20 Nov 2004 23:59:17

The main problem is that it's totally insidious, and the DJ can creep the volume up on you over a few minutes. The only sign is that conversations become strained, and you only realise when you get home and your ears are ringing, telling you you just got permanent damage.

It's serious, and if it keeps up like this, we'll all be deaf in 10 years.
James on - Sun 21 Nov 2004 14:11:57

As for going deaf in ten years, I'm already finding it hard to follow a conversation in a noisy pub. Lucky I took Auslan for a year. Might need it sooner than I thought. Time for a few more beers with the deaf bears I think to brush up.
Evil Twin - Sun 21 Nov 2004 17:31:32

Straight/Gay Parties, bashing etc. Hmmm... there are still a lot of guys who drink to excess, get a bit frisky and violent. I was bashed earlier this year by a few drunken 20-25 year olds. It's gives us all the warm and fuzzies to believe the wider community is now tollerent of different lifestyles, it may be getting better but there are still people out there who think a poof needs to be smacked around, either to prove something to themselves/mates or to demonstrate hate. I've learned not to trust groups of straight guys in any setting. Personally I don't want to associate socially with straight people, (but hey, that's just me, you go for it if it turns you on) I see straights latching on to the gay community as fag-hag-ism, guys who want to identify as metrosexual are real creapy, "wanna-be gay, male fag-hags" is all it amounts to. God, hate to think what they'd be like in the sack.

Please all you Illiterates, "Your" = something belonging to you. "You're" = short for "You are" they are not interchangeable. I'm a school teacher, it drives me crazy.

Sex/picking up at parties... why does this bother everyone so much? and why are so many so judgemental? What's wrong with doing everything your heart desires and is available at a party. I've been dancing and having sex at parties for years. Try as hard as they may, it wont stop until the parties stop. In actual fact, prohibiting sex spaces add significantly to u-safe sex. Where do some get the idea that drugs kills sexual desire. It enhances it for me, a little help from Mr Pfizer and it is better than normal. You're all such "stick-in-the-mud's"

Extacy testing... I brought a kit for $50. The downer is finding you have crap and having to toss it. The upper is seeing the goo immediately go purple then black. That's a big woo hoo...! (I'm 44)I want to be protected to.

Mardi Gras taking a stance on drugs. Oh please...! how Hypocritical. They are getting as bad as the NSW government poking their noses in where it's not needed or wanted. I wish they would butt-out and focus on improving the parties.

So I'm heading to Beyond in Melbourne. The feel of these predominately male parties is incredibly hot. Not that there is sex happening in every corner, but there is definate sexiness in the air. BTW, their sexspace is crowded, what does that indicate? MG could learn form this.

I stand prepared to be crucified
Bandit - Sun 21 Nov 2004 17:56:37

crucified! - you'd need to be consistant & somewhat credible first.
- Sun 21 Nov 2004 23:51:00

fair point. as a dj, i suggest you get some special club-earplugs, which your doctor can tell you about. you can still hear ok, it is just much quieter.

for some people the volume is the key, and louder is better, i disagree, but think it must be loud enough to be felt

playing to a dancefloor of deaf people taught me to be aware that, for many, the sensation created by dance music is beyond that which is merely audible.

ps - why is seymour butz playing for kylie? (question not criticism). i didn't think that was his target audience. congrats to kylie though for a kooky guest

pps- saw dissociatives live set on rage last night. paul mac and daniel johns seem to do a great show
- Mon 22 Nov 2004 02:34:44

Dream - the venue was used on the same weekend last November, but has been completely renovated and refitted since. The layout will be quite different to the layout that was in existance for the last party there. It's quite different to Cage. It's spread over 2 levels, with a mezzanine. The entrance is off the street - you don't have to brave the karaoke bar to get to the entrance.
- Mon 22 Nov 2004 08:48:07

Now maybe we can get some decent music there on Saturdays and hopefully have the place pick up again rather than having a DJ who in the last few years played solely to his own personal taste rather than playing to the crowd who paid admission.
- Mon 22 Nov 2004 09:41:15

pps- saw dissociatives live set on rage last night. paul mac and daniel johns seem to do a great show
- Mon 22 Nov 2004 02:34:44

The new Dissociatives dvd is out and is looks amazing. Paul Mac is our nu gay legend. Look closely at the concert and you'll see our DJ seymour pop up a few times too. Even an animated Seymour in the extras!

So word is apparently Kylie is a big fan of Seymour's Sauna cd and booked him personally for the European launch of her underwear! Heh heh heh, couldn't have happened to a dirtier dj!!

Oh yeah, I agree...Manjam was party of the month!
- Mon 22 Nov 2004 11:02:03

Let the crucifixion begin...

People who live in "grocers' apostrophe" covered houses shouldn't throw grammar advice, methinks! Plurals don't need 'em, sweetie. (But should it, perhaps, be "sticks-in-the-mud", after all? Hyphenated plurals are such a conundrum.)
Trance Trance Trance - Language perfectionist, stylish dancer, all-around nice guy - and not up himself at all! - Mon 22 Nov 2004 11:37:51

but will Beyond still have a backroom at the new venue?
- Mon 22 Nov 2004 13:26:20

(from flyer at the venue)
Dorff - Mon 22 Nov 2004 20:36:12

You post your viewpoints but call those that are in the opposite corner stick in the muds ???

Then you say drugs enhance your sexual desire but only with the help of another drug. We were discussing your usual party drugs which do knock a lot of peoples sexual desires ( but not all )and you ask why are so many people are judgemental ? - and thats exactly what your doing !

Cant say I'd like your narrow opinions being taught to children.

Then you you talk about sex at parties. I cant remember seeing a single post saying people cant pick up or have sex. Yes there have been discussions about a dedicated sex space but that was explained by a thing called the Law ie sex on premises not allowed to sell alcohol. Maybe its only NSW ? but certainly no
What school was that ? - Mon 22 Nov 2004 21:03:48

Trance Trance Trance - Mon 22 Nov 2004 21:41:21

Well yes, it sounded like a good time to me too. How very enlightened of them. I really should do something about getting down to Melby for one of those Beyond parties.
Evil Twin - Mon 22 Nov 2004 22:32:17

Also, any word on which DJs will be playing at Arq on Saturday nights from now on? I think a 2-DJ team could work well in the arena - maybe someone who spins at the house end of the spectrum to start with, followed by someone who spins at the progressive/trance end of the spectrum from say 2am. As for downstairs, I think house and commercial (with a bit of retro thrown in) could work well. What are other people's thoughts?
Trance Boy - Tue 23 Nov 2004 01:14:00

Though at this stage I'm completely unsure if I can handle Mardi Gras, Toybox, Queer Nation and actually remember my own name by the Monday morning.
H - Tue 23 Nov 2004 01:26:19

Bees knees!
Brad W - Tue 23 Nov 2004 10:46:10

I found this by chance today :

http://www.gtaust.com/nia/images/Faithless-Hordon.jpg

Nexo.

- Tue 23 Nov 2004 12:07:22

Hey Brad, a friend from London actually descibed Ferry Corsten as "The Ducks Nuts" he has great taste in music and thought he was sensational..

I'm dying to see him play but will be in Melbourne playing at Beyond this weekend... Drats!!
www.nealcrawford.com - Tue 23 Nov 2004 12:24:08

Bees knees!
Brad W - Tue 23 Nov 2004 10:46:10

Bees knees indeed! We have our tickets ... should be a great night!

I'm sure everyone there on Friday is just going to be there for a night of great music ... go on ... the dark side may not turn out to be so dark at all!
GD - Tue 23 Nov 2004 12:48:05

Mate.......... Before you correct others for the misuse of 'Your'& 'You're', make sure you cover yourself and don't make any mistakes. Eg 'tollerent'is tolerant,'creapy'is creepy and 'Extacy'is Ecstasy.... and you call yourself a teacher!
Have a Good Week All!
Cover Yourself - Tue 23 Nov 2004 13:16:29

Details:
Lewisham Hotel
Parramatta Rd
DJ's: David Hiscock & Justin Scott
Shows: Portia Turbo & Claire De Lune

Saturdays - 9pm to 3am

Promises to be fun!
- Tue 23 Nov 2004 13:24:27

How are people generally planning to cope with this dilemma? Was thinking of missing the big one (1st time in 23 years) and just doing Toybox and Indulgence but don't know if I'll be able to resist all 3 and Manacle recoveries - HELP!
Madonna Minogue - Tue 23 Nov 2004 14:14:55

Please I need to know before committing to a ticket!!!
- Tue 23 Nov 2004 15:01:22

$10 = Trancefusion @ARQ = Fantastic Value!!
- Tue 23 Nov 2004 15:57:16
Pinkboard is unable to verify this statement.

More Crucifixion....your wish etc....

"Extacy testing... I brought a kit for $50"

Brought = Past tense/participle of bring
Bought = Past tense/participle of buy

I'm not a teacher but know many who are and a few of them have woeful spelling, grammar and diction. I don’t see why they alone should be disturbed by eats, shoots and leaves
Cuchulain - Tue 23 Nov 2004 16:12:02

Please dont bail on Mardi Gras "just to do recoveries" Thats so 90s! Toybox and Indulgence and all other money spinning opportunities exist solely BECAUSE of Mardi Gras. Ill bet my best leather ring that there wont be a donation from many of these events to Mardi Gras (subtle hint all promoters!) Hey, If you really are a "maddonna minogue" youll be there at the start of the party, the heart of the party, and let nature take its course.Theres going to be many things truly amazing still to be announced for the season. Be prepared!
nu mardi party! - keep it in the family - Tue 23 Nov 2004 17:00:40

I have my ticket. See you all at Home!
R - Tue 23 Nov 2004 17:03:56

DJ's Mike Kelly, Junior B and Kelly Lynch 6pm-Mid.

Special thanks to Wonder Woman, Aladin & the all Butt Pirates for makiing last sunday hilarious!

Lord Roberts Hotel Cnr Stanely and Riely East Syd
LRH Crew - Tue 23 Nov 2004 17:12:53

Maybe, but it will no doubt be a sell out event. Bet you'll wish you went just the same.
- Tue 23 Nov 2004 17:47:43

thanks for the analysis - i think i'll go to BOTH!!!

- Tue 23 Nov 2004 18:06:11

FANTASTIC !! A really good alternative to Pride. Looks like I'll be doing the Shift on NYE !!
My 5 cents worth - Wed 24 Nov 2004 00:24:10

Suggest it is the heady mix of all of the above and simultaneous accessible sex that makes Beyond such a great party. To suggest going to Club 80 as an alternative is to miss the point entirely.
- Wed 24 Nov 2004 08:58:55

I think I will be giving the big one a miss given the quality of Sleaze. The line up of Toybox then Indulgence or Arq or QN into the night - its just the ideal weekend.
- Wed 24 Nov 2004 09:15:10

Your post was interesting in the context of our times but unconvincing. The recoveries or more to the point the "alternatives" offer a guaranteed good time and satisfaction to niche markets and musical tastes. The big party format on the other hand has become a risky punt and usually in some way are very dissappointing primarily because of the yardstick of the past - which we know will never return.

As for "keeping it in the family" the prime reason the "alternatives" are so sucessful is that they are pitched to particular tastes and scenes or if you will families that comprise the broader gay community/market. New Mardi Gras and Pride however are the opposite and cater for the mass (it is their philosophy at present to do so) and appear more to be a conglomeration of Fox Studios, Ticketek.com and the likes of Nova FM. Progress apparently and maybe so.

I think alot of people have accepted what has happened over the last few years socially, politically, commercially and certainly communally and have moved on from what those big parties once meant and certainly what they delivered. As a result we have found greater representation and "family" elsewhere.
It was hard to let go - but I had no choice - Wed 24 Nov 2004 09:43:10

Let the people who do what they do best do it best.

Take all the bullshit politics and decisions by committee out of it.

The market economy has clearly shown whos best at what.
- Wed 24 Nov 2004 11:38:48

Because after each of these commercial ventures took their share of the door takings etc, there would be nothing left. Mardi Gras is meant to be a community fundraiser, isn't it?

It would be a great idea to mix different nights from different venues into Fox, but definately not Mardi Gras night!
Yammer Rancour - Wed 24 Nov 2004 12:55:46

why is that nightmare of a 'dj' allowed back here to ruin another good night ?
my opinion of course - Wed 24 Nov 2004 13:05:10

Vote with your feet darling!
- Wed 24 Nov 2004 14:24:55

So now you recruit people away from Mardi Gras? Did you get involved with the orgaization festival or party committees? Are you just "hating mardi gras" cause its trendy?
As the rats flee, Mardi Gras ain't sinking, but will power on and evolve! Im on board with 'keep it in the family' who will stay on deck with us?
mg 2005! yes please! - Wed 24 Nov 2004 15:29:48

which one?
wayne g, ronnie or chip
tongue in arse cheek - Wed 24 Nov 2004 16:01:31

Wayne G is the only true superstar DJ ever to grace our shores.
- Wed 24 Nov 2004 16:27:05

$95 = Toybox at Luna Park = ABSOLUTE BARGIN!!!!

What planet are you living on ? The metro is $65
what were you expecting pray tell?
- Wed 24 Nov 2004 16:32:20

Here is a post from last week that you may have missed:

ive heard a rumour that jake kilby is one of two Dj's taking the helm in the arena on saturday nights. can't wait for the new look saturday night at arq!
- Wed 17 Nov 2004 22:52:27
- Wed 24 Nov 2004 16:34:13

Jake Kilby opening. Neal Crawford closing. I give it a couple of months. WE WANT PAUL!
- Wed 24 Nov 2004 16:42:29

definiely no more thn $65
- Wed 24 Nov 2004 16:43:10

I think is wise within this forum never ever to assume who and who has not contributed to Mardi Gras in whatever guise or form. However for me the current agenda does not appeal nor is it delivering on many levels.

And I must reiterate - I did say is was hard to let go - which is was.
- Wed 24 Nov 2004 16:52:03

That's the community spirit right there...Put a date on failure.. What a nice guy...I WANT MY MUMMY!!
- Wed 24 Nov 2004 17:23:35

Im on board - if toybox/arq/queer nation is the alternative,(lol) I embrace you Mardi Gras!
(Sorry I believe hundred dollars for an all locals DJ party is just sad, Just see the huge international line up next week at Luna Park and ask questions....)
The talk out of MG headquarters that Club Arak, Bad Dog, Kooky, gurlesque and and other real alternative parties collaboration and involvement in the Mardi Gras party looks like a return to the dynamic, cultural, real community parties from the 80s. Bring it on!
all aboard the good ship mardi gras! - knockers and whiners overboard! - Wed 24 Nov 2004 17:42:31

You're kidding right? If that's the new Saturday night lineup, ARQ will be reborn! How cool is that.

Can anyone confirm if it's true?
- Wed 24 Nov 2004 18:02:59

chip is the best dj by far on that line-up
- Wed 24 Nov 2004 18:46:37

Amen to that! As DJ, only Paul has the versatility, experience and musical depth to appeal to most, me thinks.
R - Wed 24 Nov 2004 19:53:36

I agree that he's a very versatile DJ. However, you'd go to hear his set and you'd get a bit of this and a bit of that in no particular order, and never a good dose of any one dance style (except tribal maybe). Probably doesn't matter if you're completely off your face, but if you're actually listening to the music, a gradual progression from house/progressive through to trance seems to be the way to go for a really good night out (in my opinion)....
Trance Boy - Wed 24 Nov 2004 21:01:08

Odyssey House Sundays
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5pm till late
2 for the price of one cocktails (5pm to 8pm)
$5 entry
Memberships still available!
Kate & Jude - Thu 25 Nov 2004 08:16:04

On sinking ships there always comes a point where some get off as an act of survival whilst others stand firm and drown honourably with the vessel.
Iceberg been and gone! - Thu 25 Nov 2004 09:15:00

UK DJ Wayne G is playing his last ever gig at Heaven in London this Saturday and after that will be relocating to Sydney to live permanently.

This is great news !!!!
Aiden - Thu 25 Nov 2004 09:17:52

He's without a doubt one of the best DJs in Australia. Don't get me wrong, I like Jake Kilby, and I like Neal Crawford - but I can't handle a full night of commercial/anthems, or a full night of trance. Paul is the _only_ DJ that I can handle a full night of.

And what's with these "arq is back to normal" comments? Paul started his marathon sets at arq when it was opened 5 years ago and has pretty much done so every weekend since. Paul _is_ the normal arq.

Thanks for 5 years of great music, Paul. As soon as we know where you're playing next, I'll be there!
- Thu 25 Nov 2004 09:29:27

Laugh all you like. Just the typical leftie/queer attitude to the commercial and cultural success of the above events.
- Thu 25 Nov 2004 09:39:47

WRONG !

Didnt you forget that the first 18 months of Arq were Goodyear & Steve Carley sharing the night. The marathon gigs didnt kick in till Carley left Arq after those 18 months.

Marathon gigs aren't that new anyway.

Robert Racic, Steve Alkins and Bill Morley all used periodically be the SOLE DJ who would play ALL night at Sleaze and Mardi Gras parties in the early 1980's

People like Alex Taylor and Stephen Blomfield and Dean Essing used to play all night for 10-11 hours at the Flinders Hotel on Friday and Saturday nights during its heyday.

So please don't try to tell us all that Goodyear is the only capable DJ that has done marathon sets. Show a little respect for history please.
My 5 cents worth - Thu 25 Nov 2004 09:44:48

But not his week Neal will be in Melboring at Beyond!
- Thu 25 Nov 2004 09:53:40

2 for 1 cocktails at the Lord Bob on sundays 6-8pm begining this week.

FREE ENTRY

Yay!
LRH Crew - Thu 25 Nov 2004 10:02:14

I'll be there.
- Thu 25 Nov 2004 10:15:04

Maybe so - but if the commercial success of these 'alternative' parties (note the irony) proves more of a drawcard than the main party, competition will be the only winner.
- Thu 25 Nov 2004 10:23:45

In regard to "Alternative". It can by the way construe to mean "as opposed to" "a different choice to" which in the context of my postings have been to the Fox Studio produced parties that are becoming blander everytime and not the ever so cool superiority and academic posturing of the queer set which I assume your irony suggests. To the point that the parties of my choice and many other punters over the big events are something to laugh at.

Again typical leftie/queer attitude.
- Thu 25 Nov 2004 11:19:57

Leftie & queer? Me thinks ... Genius!!!!
*** lines up for a hug too ***
- Thu 25 Nov 2004 13:42:16

Take all the bullshit politics and decisions by committee out of it.

The market economy has clearly shown whos best at what.
- Wed 24 Nov 2004 11:38:48

I'm looking forward to "Something tribal/grungy" Inc. running a party. Exactly the reason for NMG running their own party.
lovin' it - Thu 25 Nov 2004 13:44:35

Regarding recent discussions about the likes of Ferry Corsten and Armin Van Buuren

I stumbled across http://www.raves.com.au/eflyers/1/

Normally I wouldnt mention a str8 rave that was interstate but OMFG look whos going to be there :

Agnelli & Nelson
Above & Beyond
Solarstone
Scott Bond (Mr Gatecrasher himself)

To name just a few...
More trance than you can poke a stick at - Thu 25 Nov 2004 14:31:40

Beyond is on at the same venue on the same date (ie weekend) that it was last year. Redemption has usually run on the first or second weekend of December. Good question as to why Redemption has moved their party date.
lovin' it - Thu 25 Nov 2004 15:30:49

Honey, you need a sub-editor...
- Thu 25 Nov 2004 15:47:09

Yes that would be a great event... I have actually been to quite a few events there at Kryal Castle, awesome location and they are very well organised events... Maybe Mardi Gras and other promoters may pay to research through other avenue for different ideas.

Always very nice events, with awesome sound and lighting, and a reasonable price only $55!!
Look outside the square! - Thu 25 Nov 2004 15:49:44

This is great news !!!!
Aiden - Thu 25 Nov 2004 09:17:52

Yes, all good things must come to an end and Wayne will indeed be playing his last gig at Heaven's 25th birthday this coming Saturday.

At this stage there are no plans to relocate and indeed lots of European projects are in the pipeline, we will be here for New Year and possibly Azure in February but that's all at this stage.
Stewart Who - Thu 25 Nov 2004 16:31:13

For those who are interested - live set posted at: http://www.djmixes2k.com/index2.php

Enjoy!!
- Thu 25 Nov 2004 17:44:36

Nothing scintillating, I'm sure.

All roads lead to Home for the super DJ Ferry Corsten!

Woo hoo!
R - Thu 25 Nov 2004 18:01:13

what next ? warren gluck doing Phoenix on a sunday night

oh of course this is my opinion
Dr Bellows - Thu 25 Nov 2004 18:39:48

no wayne g for harbour party!!!

we have enough untalented locals to employ... we don't need to fly another in
- Thu 25 Nov 2004 19:29:11

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countdownboy - Back In Business - Did You all Miss Me ?? - Thu 25 Nov 2004 21:51:20

perhaps MM you might like to inform the event organisers in advane of your partying schedule so that they will not put on opposing events . . .
- Thu 25 Nov 2004 22:12:39

we have enough untalented locals to employ... we don't need to fly another in
- Thu 25 Nov 2004 19:29:11

Untalented? If you're going to post remarks like this...

(a) At least have the decency to state that this is just YOUR opinion ofcourse, and not that of the board.

(b) Sign your name, instead of hiding behind a brick wall
Justin Scott - Fri 26 Nov 2004 02:42:30

thanks for the advice, what is it they say about sarcasim being the lowest form of wit?
I really don't see the pont of this posting as the comments were not about me but about providing the most opportunities for the most punters and about maximising the chances of success of every event that is held. These 2 parties are justifiably Melbourne icons and appeal to very much the same type of crowd. If the two parties ae held on the same night then logically one of them, in this case probably Redemption will be undermined and people put off attending future Redemption events. A recent example of the was he last Carnal party held by SLPA at the burdekin which was held on the same night as Beyond's annual birthday party in Melbourne, many memebers of SLPA had been planning ormonths a trip to Melbourne on this particular weekend. In each of these cases the Beyond boys are not responsible for the duplication as they have their parties on the same weekend eacj year and their party schedules are well advertised.
Madonna Minogue - Fri 26 Nov 2004 08:55:26

anyone noticed that ARQ did 'retro sexual' and then the shift did 'classic anthems' - or that arq did a night with Wayne G with shauna jenson and now the shift is doing it for NYE??

my point is all of our venues copy each other....
Josef - Fri 26 Nov 2004 12:33:50

I was thinking the exact same thing, Imitation is the sincerest form of flattery I guess. Shame Queer Nation!
- Fri 26 Nov 2004 13:14:56

Friday 26
Stonewall Hotel
Red Party 5
9pm – late
Extra shows.
$5.00 donation at door

Saturday 27
Stonewall Hotel
BBQ 2-5pm
BBQ staffed by volunteers.Fun music.
All proceeds to ACON

Saturday 27
Imperial Hotel
Mitzi and the girls go ballistic with ribbons,pins and more.

Sunday 28
Colombian Hotel 2nd birthday Party for ACON
4pm – 10 pm
ACON volunteers at door- gold coin donation
Great prizes via raffle tickets
A fun way to celebrate this great hotel's 2nd birthday!

Sunday 28
ARQ
‘Under the Mirror Ball 2’
A galaxy of drag performers perform.
From 10pm
$10 at door. All proceeds to ACON

Wednesday December 1
Midnight Shift
Maxi and Penny selling ribbons and pins.

Wednesday December 1
Newtown Hotel
Clare and Verushka will mark World AIDS Day in their own special way.
Special cocktail for ACON.
ACON - Fri 26 Nov 2004 13:48:58

THe Newtown hotel rocked again on Thursday. A lactose free night is bang on! I love you Benny Drayton and Seymour!!!
- Fri 26 Nov 2004 14:03:57

Did you actually read any of the earlier post? The issue is not about me or any other individual missing out on a particular party but the greatest opportunity for all to support the most events so that our rich party culture continues to grow and become ever more vibrant. As for the 'Mardi Gras drama" you refer to, definiely no drama or self focus intended, just a question of which events to support having regard to a heap of issues, not least of which is the physiological difficulty of partying without rest > 36 hours. By the way, of the parties mentioned only two are run by community organisations except Mardi Gras and Carnal. Beyond, Redemption, Toybox and Indulgence are all run by promoters or in the case of the latter a venue. So,all have a similar imperative to maximise numbers. Apart from Sydney during the party season, no Australian city has the pre-requisite number of party punters to support multiple events simultaneously. Not really sure why simple observations and constructive questions should invoke such patronising sarcasm.
MM - Fri 26 Nov 2004 14:07:06

do you think this means queer nation is on the path of demise??? - if they are starting to copy other events???
- Fri 26 Nov 2004 14:45:29

The last QN certainly didn't feel as full as previous ones and they were still selling tickets on the door...If not as many people are going any more, that explains why they've increased the ticket price from $45 to $55.
- Fri 26 Nov 2004 15:12:31

Why is everyone so analytical of a poster? Can't we just dance and have a good time?
- Fri 26 Nov 2004 15:43:06

Names can be emailed to: candlelight@acon.org.au ( before 3pm on the day)
candlelight2004 - Fri 26 Nov 2004 16:47:58

Moist is at Arq. Any boys going?
- Kamahl - Fri 26 Nov 2004 16:54:49

Well I calculate each of the 18(!) main arena acts get 1 hour each max before tagging the next one and flying off stage. Does nothing for me, I'm afraid.

And camping out? Eeuw! Let's hope there's a Rexona stand somewhere giving away free samples.
Trance Trance Trance - Just keep it in your pants... and dance! - Fri 26 Nov 2004 17:07:36

Any news on this JK or Dan?
shanobear - Fri 26 Nov 2004 17:46:56

Didnt anybody miss me

countdownboy - 99 Days To Mardi Gras !!! - Fri 26 Nov 2004 20:59:54

For anyone that is interested, I am playing in the Arena at Arq tomorrow night. It'll be a mix up of funky house, disco, tribal and trance. A little something for everyone. Come and down for a boogie!
www.jakekilby.com - Fri 26 Nov 2004 21:16:48

countdownboy - Sat 27 Nov 2004 08:40:34

Guess I'll have to find a new favourite. Don't wanna be common, like!

Well at least I won't have to request it from now on (and some DJs might even *have* it in their bag).

I wanna love the new single version of Tiesto's "Just Be" but I was so hot for Tiesto when the album came out months ago I almost feel I've been there, done that! Hmmm... (smooches down to Central Station Records) Maybe Mr Timothy Stand By Me? (Although it sounds an awful lot like "I Am Tha One" - ah funky house - so much variety in one beat!)
Trance Trance trance - Confused and disorientated - Sat 27 Nov 2004 08:42:15

Hey Stewart - you boys should do another doco. "Twisted" was a blast.

Or a cable TV series - Wayne and Stewart's VIP guide to great world clubbing! The mind boggles at the thought.

haha - oh, and I think "G Spot" is a much better name for a club then "Club G"
Trance Trance Trance - prolific this morning - Sat 27 Nov 2004 08:49:28

Evil Twin - Sat 27 Nov 2004 11:18:17

By far the best set I've heard from anybody since I discovered clubs 4 years ago, even better than Tiesto's at last year's NY's eve party.

I imagine Ferry would be a blast in the Horden, say, at next year's Mardi Gras! As the ad says, keep discovering...
R - Sat 27 Nov 2004 13:54:04

Lil - luscious in leather - Sat 27 Nov 2004 15:03:13

i just penned this one on the fly!

countdownboy you're the one
always countin' one by one
when the day comes (as it must)
countdownboy in you i trust

(eat your heart out molly)
Pornstar Girl - Sat 27 Nov 2004 18:29:10

I love you.
countdownboy - Sat 27 Nov 2004 21:01:23

yes ... a whisper is all that's required at the moment
- Sat 27 Nov 2004 22:26:30

Wow - sounds like you had a mindblowing night@Ferry. Jealous now. I was stuck at home sick as a dog as it happens so couldn't have gone anyway ;-( Roll on Armin for my own trancendent exerience! (hugs)
Trance Trance Trance - no postscript this time - Sun 28 Nov 2004 00:28:03

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Kate & Jude - Sun 28 Nov 2004 09:58:58

Where is everyone going for NYE ?

Would be great to get a feel of what parties/clubs people are going to. We are thinking of a change from
Pride due to last few parties.
Personally would love to do the Hordern.
But would be great to get an idea of where everyone is heading.
Thanks - Sun 28 Nov 2004 11:16:03

Can't wait for Armin Van Buuren @ The Hordern on NYE! ... variety is the spice!
GD - Sun 28 Nov 2004 13:52:57

PRIDE!!! The lineup is looking great, and the general consensus seems to be that they've nailed it.
- Sun 28 Nov 2004 14:50:54

TROPICAL FRUITS!!! today has reminded me why i am dying to get up there under a pandanas tree (forgive me spelling pros). and park life has reminded me why an outdoor party rules supreme this time of year in Oz
- Sun 28 Nov 2004 15:03:48

I'd just like to know your opinions on girls being refused entry into the Shift (Upstairs).
Oxford - Sun 28 Nov 2004 16:12:44

I'm not much of a fan of the shift and this is one of the (many) reasons. The crowd at the shift is far too male oriented and any girl who comes in is made to feel awkward, starting right at the door. We need girls to keep us boys in line! Saturday night was a good example of this - waaay too much testosterone on the dance floor. I like to party with everyone - Queer or otherwise, boys, girls and undecided.
Adam - Go the mixed crowd - Mon 29 Nov 2004 05:17:07

The DJ line up and spaces are great (DOME is back!) and it's a community event with all funds back to the Sydney PRIDE Centre. They need our support.

Can't wait!!
- Mon 29 Nov 2004 06:30:33

My 5 cents worth - Mon 29 Nov 2004 06:49:04

Hear Here!!! You're assessment is spot. And yes I have female friends, in fact my best friend is girl and always has been come to think of it but there are times and places that I want the experience to be exclusively gay and pumped with testosterone. And guess what there are so few times and places that this is possible.

For those that don't like it there are plenty of mixed venues to choose from so we don't need to go down the "acceptance and tolerance blah blah blah" arguement as usual.
Door Bitch - Mon 29 Nov 2004 09:18:56

We popped in to see the shows, and the girls were having much fun and looked gorgeous. The new show "Bitchy and Scratchy" worked a treat and the closing number was a HOOT! Well worth the applause to get them to encore just to wear them out a bit more

We left at about 3.00 but our mates headed downstairs for more dancing. Briefly considered Manacle dayclub the next morning, but bed too comfy.
Evil Twin - Mon 29 Nov 2004 09:19:27

The Shift has a great vibe about it and generally there is always a few women there, which doen't bother me in the slightest.

If you want a man only club, try headquarters or another sex club... A mix is healthy as we are all part of the same community!
Enjoy together not divided! - Mon 29 Nov 2004 11:33:15

I'd just like to know your opinions on girls being refused entry into the Shift (Upstairs).
Oxford - Sun 28 Nov 2004 16:12:44

The reason me and almost everyone I know and associate with loves going to the shift is because its pretty much a totally gay crowd, you can go out and feel like your in a gay club, and I think thats not too much to ask for. Thats because of the door policy.
- Mon 29 Nov 2004 12:49:29

i agree. It's sad that Paul's gone but I think its good that Arq is changing things. Can't wait until Jake and Neal start Saturdays permananetly - if this is still the case.
Can someone form Arq confirm???
- Mon 29 Nov 2004 13:03:59

Then go to Arq! Or Home. Or Stonewall. Or Columbian. Or Odyssey. Or Palms. Or Imperial. Or Newtown. Simple, realy. There are many many many mixed options.

We (apparently - [perhaps I'm the predjudiced one? - Mon 29 Nov 2004 11:53:07]) mysogynistic man lovers will just have to get by without ya! Oh, well!

Love the Shift
Trance Trance Trance - Love the men - frequently and with gay abandon! - Mon 29 Nov 2004 14:15:14

I have to agree........ Our group had a blast of a time on Sat. nite. A nite out is what you make of it, guys.
Jake, Thanx for a GR8 nite.....It was cool catching up with U again.
WOW, what a GR8 memory you have!
Thanx again.....see you soon!
Lozza - Mon 29 Nov 2004 16:07:04

i agree. It's sad that Paul's gone but I think its good that Arq is changing things. Can't wait until Jake and Neal start Saturdays permananetly - if this is still the case.
Can someone form Arq confirm???
- Mon 29 Nov 2004 13:03:59

Thanks guys. I thoroughly enjoyed myself. The marathon set is a hard one (the ears start to ring after 5 or 6 hours) and I tip my hat (once again) to the incredible Paul Goodyear for his ability to maintain those sets over the five and a half years that he did them.

I feel very proud to have been asked by Arq to join the saturday night line-up. I also feel like I have very large shoes to fill taking over from Paul who is someone who has taught me a lot over the years and has definitely been a major influence in my development as a DJ.

Now to:

Arq didnt rock on saturday night it was half full.
- Mon 29 Nov 2004 12:53:28

I guess like anything, someone's perception of the night is in the eye of the beholder. Entitled to your opinion, yes, but can't help but disagree with you.

It was not the busiest Saturday night ever, and neither of the positive comments expressed attempt to imply that, however it was substantially more than 'half full'. It was relatively close to full without being packed.

A night can still 'rock' without having to be jam packed full. My perception from where I was is that there was a good sized crowd and they were getting into it. The feedback I received on the night was positive. Management indicate that a quiet night would result in a 6am close, but we went to 7am.

Obviously there are punters who loved Paul and what he did and it is going to take time for people to adjust to a different line-up. I hope I can do justice to the night that Paul created and continue on with the hard work that he put into it.
www.jakekilby.com - Mon 29 Nov 2004 16:08:17

And then I went to the Shift on Sat night -- the first time in a very long time ...Well, well, well...guess who was there. No wonder why Arq is progressively emptying while the Shift is packed.

Marketing challenge for Arq: cute muscle marys determine the popularity (viability) of clubs in this town.
R - Mon 29 Nov 2004 17:16:18

Hi Shanobear,

I have the same info as Jake, that there’ll be another ICONS but not sure when yet. It’ll be a blast when it does come round though I’m sure!

Hope all’s well in Sydney and everyone’s been working out which club they’re allowed to go to according to their gender or shoe choice

See you back there in a couple of weeks,
xo
Dan Murphy - danmurphy.blogspot.com - Mon 29 Nov 2004 20:38:33

G.A.Y's 10th and last party is on at the Shift this Saturday night !!!

G.A.Y's 10th and last party is on at the Shift this Saturday night !!!

G.A.Y's 10th and last party is on at the Shift this Saturday night !!!

I'm excited !!!!
ripping off countdownboy - Mon 29 Nov 2004 21:58:13

try civic saturdays. buck naked is now controlling the entertainment down there and it has been hot since he started.... sexy boys and spicy girls

re:- Mon 29 Nov 2004 17:36:06

I would not advise tampering with your pitch gauge on 1200s. it will lead to irreparable problems, so unless you got $1100 a pop to waste don't do it. Try the new version of the sl1200 which has a button allowing you to change the pitch range from +8 to +16. it actually works, and is great for re-working hip-hop songs to house and nosebleed techno to trip hop
- Mon 29 Nov 2004 22:47:38

Aiden - Friend of the Midnight Shift - Tue 30 Nov 2004 10:17:04

This should be done by a Techinics regisitered technician. Otherwise, you void any warranty. But... if you are real keen - buy a second hand deck and play away. Remember to unplug the turntable from the wall before using a screwdriver!

Death by Technics is not a good look.
- Tue 30 Nov 2004 10:42:02

I hear ya sister...

There always seems to be a noisy minority of people going on about "some of my best friends are str8" and how its cool to go out clubbing with str8 girls or a mixed crowd.

The masses of guys that pack the shift every friday and saturday I would say are most definately the silent majority, and history (dcm, albury, arq) also speaks to this.

The shift is packed all the time, and its because we love being able to spend a few hours a week in a totally gay space. We can tolerate the heteros 6 1/2 days a week I think thats more than fair.

As for all the recent DJ bashing - Arq's not packed anymore not because of the DJ's but because its become far too mixed, and far too hard to get totally wasted in.
Gay Gay Gay Gay - and Gay - Tue 30 Nov 2004 11:34:09

Aiden you are obviously a very narrow-minded friend of the Shift. Remember last weekend - the Columbian, Stonewall and ARQ all raised thousands and thousands of dollars for AIDS charities. All of these venues consistently and unreservedly continue to support gay charities and they should not be dismissed by ignorant people as "insignificant". You'll see all of these venues year after year support Mardi Gras and DIVAs and other such community events so take the blinkers off and embrace the scene at large. Or just go the Shift and only the Shift night after night for the rest of your life and please yourself.....I'm sure you're very good at pleasing yourself.
bev - friend of the gay community - Tue 30 Nov 2004 12:07:01

Do you think they (the heteros) should only tolerate you for 6 1/2 days a week??? Remember that next time you're out in the general population.
- Tue 30 Nov 2004 12:09:23

Aiden are guys not part of the gay community!! And what are you talking about only men being there, I'm there quite a lot and there is always some female presence!

Friend of the midnight shift?? Is that to give you statement credability? lol 'cause it didn't!

Just enjoy what we have with all.... Women and men, it's not like the women there are going to chat you up, after all most of them would be gay as well!
Male clubber! whoc enjoys the music with all! - Tue 30 Nov 2004 12:35:34

Lesbians are fabulous, love them in gay bars, they seem to be the only thing that scares away fag hags
- Tue 30 Nov 2004 14:06:39

Friday night - Ferry Corsten @ Home - wow! I had a feeling that he would be good but didn't realise how good. From the start of his set we heard pumping brand new trance, and not the two dollar trance variety either, it was well produced, vocal at times and going off. As for the crowd, they were so up for it and very friendly, some of those straighter boys with their shirts off are very nice indeed.. *insert cheeky grin*

Saturday day.. sleep then parklife @ Moore park - Where to start - let just say fun in the sun. Strangely enough most of the gay crowd managed to find each other and there ended up being a very large group of us, varying in age from 18 thru to 50ish. I was pleasantly surprised to see a few DJ's, lots of promoters, friends and ex's all at the same time. Felix the housecat was good to start with then kinda lost me somewhere between, Mylo was flown in and was as good as everyone had said he was, finally The Shapeshifters, unfortunately it was like listening to a ministry of sound CD with Lolas theme in the middle.. shigeki and I did pick up on what we thought was their new song - very similar to Lolas theme, that was probably the most interesting track they played. All in all though a great day, with 2 great sound systems, well spread out and a well produced event.

Saturday Night - Private house party which we had to shut down (!!), then off to the shift. I agree with the comment about the muscle boys... they seem to have migrated to the shift in alarming numbers, it was very easy on the eye. Chip was Dj'ing when we got there and he was going off!

Sunday day - manacle for a few hours. A line to get in before it had even opened, Chip then Luke Djing, and a very fun crowd, however my bed was calling me so we didn't stay for too long.

Sunday Night - Working at ARQ... I'm glad to see that so many people got behind the fundraiser and packed the place out, was great to see a Sunday at ARQ totally packed and going off.

My last weekend off work for a while has definitely been a good one and has shown me yet again that this city certainly knows how to party and do it well.

Finally... I guess if everyone else is plugging themselves I should to... www.lightwright.com.au has just been updated with xmas and new year gigs and new pics.
Brad W - Tue 30 Nov 2004 15:11:29

I went to Rogues the other night and was given drink vouchers for free. I don't think the place rcovered after a doorman was shot there a few years ago. Boring crowd, boring music. -BUT->

Paul might just be onto something. We just may have another venue to choose from if all goes well
- Tue 30 Nov 2004 17:08:57

Hahahahahahahahahahaaaa good one luv. Totally agree with your comment !

Dont me wrong though Mr Tue 30 Nov 2004 12:09:23 - you are entitled to your opinion and I'm glad the boys are enjoying the Shift but its comments like this that just make people laugh and not beleive anything else you've
said.
- Tue 30 Nov 2004 20:30:43

I heard the Dutch super DJ Ferry Corsten and another international at Home on Fri night and the tickets cost $40!
R - Tue 30 Nov 2004 22:40:20

I think you'll find it's a DJ Spen track, not to be confused with his other tracks "Craze At Midnight" or "Sax At Midnight"!!
Monkey House - Cheep Cheep, I'm Baaack!! - Tue 30 Nov 2004 22:40:25

"reclaim sex"

has anyone noticed the only reason we're a collective is our non-normative sexual practices? why are we then consenting to be told how to carry out sex by a majority of rulers who do not comprehend our motivations? the sex space at clubs/parties is one example.

another suggestion

"bring back the bass"

the epa restrictions in sydney are out of control. people moving into cities need to start accepting social noise a little more, particularly when they decide to move in near an existing club/venue. i say screw them all, pump in and lock the gates. let's actually protest rather than just get half naked, dripping in glitter and dance to kylie on a tacky float
- Tue 30 Nov 2004 22:56:58

we have been thru this before on this board perhaps its the same person posting..?

As Luke and I have previously said QN costs $$ to produce and we have been getting better at it over the years. There is advertising, shows, show rehearsals, drag queens, costumes, choreographers, props, different security, additional production in throughout the club etc etc etc... and all this costs money. The straight events at home don't have all these additional costs.

As I have said before home really is not a blood sucking organisation that is trying to rip people off, they are a great group of people who like putting on quality events. Inflation really has nothing to do with it, each year this scene gets more expensive, DJ's and personnel get paid more, its a fact of life.
Brad W - Wed 1 Dec 2004 01:50:34

huh? that closed down years ago when the new owner Moved the license to a straight pub!
you may be a dyke but not one that goes out AnyMore
when will you people get off comparing nights for gays and lesbians - it's a different thang.

I get annoyed when the Shift and others use the 'inappropriate footwear' excuse when I'm wearing boots!@# Not being able to have a drink with my gay bloke friends means going to a place with no hassles, hence the popularity of places like the LRH and the Columbian.
Bgrrl - Wed 1 Dec 2004 01:51:44

Hey Brad W - with the doubling of QN price, hope this means you now get paid twice as much!
- Wed 1 Dec 2004 09:04:50

Evil Twin - Wed 1 Dec 2004 10:53:53

When trying to bring my sister and her friend along last Friday night, I was told by security that i was allowed in, but not them because they were Girls. Isn't this known as sex discrimination???

It's a rare occasion that i'd bring 2 girls with me, as i know how they feel about it, and i wouldnt want it to turn into a straight club etc. But i really didnt think they would try and turn them away on that basis!

Anyway, after some drama, i ended up getting them in.

Judging from the posts i've read, some of you don't want girls in the Shift. Fair enough, i accept that.

I was really disappointed with the way we were treated the other night, and i just wanted to share my opinion.
Oxford - Wed 1 Dec 2004 11:07:12

This problem is not limited to the Shift. The same issue exists in other capitol cities (personal experience can testify to that).

Which makes me want to question ...

Why do gay clubs (in general) need to create an atmosphere based on non-inclusion?

Why do some of their patrons continue to feel like they are discriminated against?

Why does such a culture exist when it is so counter-productive?

Why is this kind of behaviour condoned in the name of making a quick pink buck?
- Wed 1 Dec 2004 12:28:14

1. Straight woman goes to a gay club and has a fabulous time dancing and flirting with the gay boys without being hassled by obnoxious straight men

2. She tells all her single friends who descend en-masse - "some of those guys are *so* *cute" - what a waste!"

3. After a while, straight men on the prowl (for what, I'm never quite sure) identify the gay club as somewhere with lots of single partying chicks, so they start going "just so long as some poof doesn't pinch me on the bum"

4.(a) Venue either caves in to the inevitable - a buck's a buck, pink or otherwise, and doesn't restrict entry to anyone
or
4.(b) Venue tries to restrict entry of straight women. They can't easily legally keep out all women, hence the no open-toed shoes routine, which presumably was designed to keep out straight women, who always wear strappy sandals, and let in dykes, who only wear combat boots (relax, I'm being ironic)

5. Lipstick lesbian is denied entry and the venue is branded misogynist

As has been said above, if the venue, such as the Shift, was consistent, then it wouldn't be such a big deal. But in the Shift's case the rules seem to change depending on who is on the door.
GJ - Wed 1 Dec 2004 13:53:15

Because thats what the clientelle wants.

Why do some of their patrons continue to feel like they are discriminated against?

Because they are.

Why does such a culture exist when it is so counter-productive?

In fact it's quite productive.

Why is this kind of behaviour condoned in the name of making a quick pink buck?

Because that's life bubb.

Pahleeze, lets change topics, this ones as old as me.
- Wed 1 Dec 2004 13:55:18

Live and let live, no?

Personally, I don't frequent the Shift, because I don't enjoy the venue (and I don't understand the music policy - but that’s a side issue) My preference is to go to events such as Transend and Ruby, which seem to attract a predominantly gay crowd, who are there for the music and to have a good time. This is what I look for in a night out.

My own experience has been that a mixed crowd does create a different atmosphere and vibe - and that’s neither negative or positive, it’s just different.

Surely there’s room in this town for one venue that tries to cater for the particular preferences of its target market? I reckon there is : )
jeffgg - might drop into ARQ on Sat to check out the new line-up : ) - Wed 1 Dec 2004 14:34:49

Firstly, i wasn’t aware this topic existed on the wall, I don’t read it all that frequently and there is a *lot* of text up there to sift through.

I understand you point, and I fully agree that home are a great group of people trying to put on a great event.

I would like to discuss some things you brought up;
"There is advertising, shows, show rehearsals, drag queens, costumes, choreographers, props, different security, additional production in throughout the club etc etc etc... and all this costs money. The straight events at home don't have all these additional costs"

The straight events do have security, advertising and sometimes dancers and/or additional production, plus extra expensive international DJ’s (As 'B' meantioned, Ferry Corsten for $40) and all of these things are factored into the usually low ticket price.
I also understand that "this scene" gets more expensive each year, however I don’t believe that the DJ's, performers and personnel’s wages have doubled in 3 years, and if they have then, judging by the trend, we should be ready to take out a small personal loan from the bank in order to attend a similar queer party in 2010.
Adam - Queers aren't that expensive - Wed 1 Dec 2004 14:48:04

www.lukeleal.com - Wed 1 Dec 2004 15:41:27

Me, I blame the heat

I hope we don't get rained out at Hyde Park tonight.
Evil Twin - Wed 1 Dec 2004 16:29:46

Who are you to silence someone's opinion? This is an open forum for people to discuss party/scene related issues. If they want to remain anonymous, then so be it.

I can understand why people decide not to post their name - probably because their comment would be judged on who they are as opposed to the content of the post itself.

Respect a persons decision to remain anonymous, and don't dismiss their valuable opinions just because you don't agree with them.
not a pinkboard nazi - Wed 1 Dec 2004 16:29:51

Those "possible repercussions" were real enough for me not to want a repeat.
- Wed 1 Dec 2004 16:58:24

www.lukeleal.com - Zig Heil! - Wed 1 Dec 2004 17:40:05

and just to add to debate stonewall on weekends has gone quite feral straight. (my parents and many friends are straight but feral is feral -still rather a gay one

that would be GREAT if it happened at the shift and arq hey people?
- Wed 1 Dec 2004 18:30:27

Queer POC, a night where queer people of colour share their experiences in the queer community.

Join Nicole Barakat, Tom Cho, Jacub Perez and other artists in a night which boasts music mixed by Sveta, spoken word and film.

Sunday, 12 December, 2004
The Imperial, 35 Erskineville Rd, Erskineville
Doors open @ 6pm; Performances start @ 8pm
$15 full / $12 conc.

QPOC is identity-inclusive and non-clique. Check your phobias and suspicions at the door. Bring your open mind, submissives, curiosity and respect. This is a butch, femme, transman, FTM, intersex, hermaphradyke, genderfuck, transensual femme, SOFFA, ethnodiversified, D/s respected space.

www.transensualevents.com
Daddy's Little Girl - Wed 1 Dec 2004 19:59:32

I agree with Luke's comments wholeheartedly. If people chose to remain anonymous, that is their choice, but let's face it: if anonymity was not an option, most people on here wouldn't say the things that they do.

I think Luke's point was that the people who write unconstructive and hurtful comments specifically designed to slander a person or a club are cowards for doing so behind a veil. Everyone is entitled to their opinion and to remain anonymous on here, but if you are going to personally attack a person or a club, have the guts to stand up and take ownership of your comments.

If someone was having a go at me, personally, I would like to know who they are so I can defend myself to a person, rather than an anonymous coward.

dancer - Wed 1 Dec 2004 18:33:50 - Brad Wright just happens to be one of Sydney's leading (and gay) lighting operators. He has put blood, sweat and tears into this party scene, and like any person involved in the clubbing scene - DJ, promoter, performer, punter - he has ample experience with the scene and his opinion comes from that experience. He may do work on the straight scene too, but he has done more than enough on the gay scene. What's YOUR claim to fame? You are a 'dancer'. Whether that means a professional performer or a regular punter, you also have experience in the scene and your opinion also counts. No more and no less than Brad's. Don't be telling Brad he can't state his opinion, especially when he has the balls to sign his own name.

What you people need to remember sometimes is that we, as DJ's and lighting operators and the like, are also a part of this scene. We like to engage in conversation on here too. But unlike you, we often have to read vile criticism about ourselves. Granted, we often get to read praise, but can you comprehend how hurtful it is for us to read some vicious remark about the work that we do, and work that we do so passionately, regardless of whether it is to your taste or not?

Also, remember that Pinkboard has come dangerously close to legal action because of some stupid posts written by some vindictive persons. The line between opinion and slander is very fine. Try and be constructive in your opinions - they always carry much more weight when delivered in a reasonable manner.

Now let's see if I get ripped to shreds for this one!
www.jakekilby.com - Wed 1 Dec 2004 20:23:35

Klub Kooky presents a unique experiance for one night only creating
the world of the Incredible Vegetable as envisioned by a diverse and
eclectic group of over 30 painters, sculptures and performance
artists.

This is the second Black light Exhibition
held by Klub Kooky following the hughly successful show "I am
Animal" in May 2004.

Incredible Inedible Vegetable features Dj's Gemma and Seymour Butz
providing a truly fruity forest of sound. Plus a special apperance
from the original Burlesgue illusionist Glita Supernova.

**********************************
Incredible Inedible Vegetable
Klub Kooky
12 december
$5
Doors opening at 9pm
77 Williams st Kings Kross
**********************************

Hope to see you there,
** the kookykids ** - Wed 1 Dec 2004 22:15:47

My claim to fame is running my own lighting and production design business since I was 23 years old. Lighting the biggest straight and gay parties in Australia. Working on some of best corporate events in Australia. Working in all the biggest venues in Australia. Being in a relationship for just over 3 years, having a great group of friends, family and colleagues that I can call on at any time.

Thats my claim to fame

I hope this answers your question.
Brad W - Wed 1 Dec 2004 22:38:03

Tickets:

Early Bird ticket $89 inc GST
( plus booking fee & postage & handling )

Booing fee is $0.50 plus 3% credit card fee (fees are subject to 10% GST)
----------------snip------------------
Does this mean we can shout BOOO to the drag performances (ala Pollys) for 50 cents plus fees?
- FiremanSam - Wed 1 Dec 2004 23:14:11

There are heaps of smart and passionate people here so it's best to be cordial at all times .. makes you dance better ;}
attitude - Wed 1 Dec 2004 23:46:26

Hmmmm...Oh yeah

HAPPY BIRTHDAY JAKE KILBY !!!!

Looking forward to partying with you Jake for your birthday on Saturday night at G.A.Y - It'll be a blast
Stephen Blomfield - Another December 2... Another Year .. Another Birthday, Obviously 21 Again !! - Thu 2 Dec 2004 00:10:44

Wonderfully put Jake, thanks for clearing up my point. To be honest, I was actually just trying to change the subject.

Winston Churchill once famously said, "The best argument against Democracy is five minutes with the average voter"

And I would say a good argument against free speech and the 'right to an opinion' was five minutes spent reading the misogynistic rants posted earlier this week.
www.lukeleal.com - Thu 2 Dec 2004 02:47:06

It's great to hear what you think of the "average" person on Pinkboard, Luke. You're right though, stuff democracy, let's all just listen to what you have to say instead.
- Thu 2 Dec 2004 08:00:59

One of the great features of Pinkboard is that people can remain annoyomous and therefore speak their mind freely and openly on whatever topic they wish. Consequestently Pinkboard represents a true spectrum of what is going on in our little corner contrary to say community consultations or the bias of the "community press" where the majority is perpetually silenced and made to tow the line so we come across as a happy little united family - which we are not.
JohnCitizen.com.au - Thu 2 Dec 2004 09:16:14

aint that the truth !
Rhiannon (bah!) - Thu 2 Dec 2004 09:45:02

That doesn't excuse the rudeness and insults of those who chose to be anon.
- Thu 2 Dec 2004 10:10:12

Strip off your shirt and strip off $1.00 from tap beer and house spirits.

SEXY MEN * GREAT MUSIC

Dj Rado from 10pm

Cya there
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- Party safely - Thu 2 Dec 2004 11:04:08

But we should be.

Realistically, there's no pleasing everybody but it would be great if there could be more unity among 'us'. Then perhaps the conservative power holders wouldn't have as much impact on social attitudes towards queers and their friends.
Pornstar Girl - Thu 2 Dec 2004 11:04:19

What a ridiculous comment! Most of us have been coming on here for years. How does our participation make it less fun? And more to the point, how is it overrun?
- Thu 2 Dec 2004 14:29:51

Put some boogie in it...

HAHAHA
GiT - Thu 2 Dec 2004 17:14:44

Panther - Thu 2 Dec 2004 18:19:17

It's going to be great and it always brings out the hottest and best and funnest (is that a word) guys to party with
White Dove - Fri 3 Dec 2004 20:44:38

so there are door sales tomorrow nite?
- Sat 4 Dec 2004 00:43:50

Stephen Blomfield - Sat 4 Dec 2004 08:01:28

Evil Twin - Sat 4 Dec 2004 11:01:43

I must say ARQ is doing everything right with all their marketing - all the different them nights and DJ's and trying to provide a variety of things. It's a shame the general sentiment out there is still against ARQ.

Fads come and fads go in the gay community. I hope the fad of being anti-ARQ and everyone going to the shift ends soon. It makes me wonder - what would ARQ have to do to get it's spot back as the #1 gay club where everyone wants to go no matter what's on? Either it will just be a matter of time, or else ARQ could close down for a short period of time and re-launch itself. It doesn't seem to matter that it's a better venue, or what it does in terms of DJ's, marketing or theme nights... it's just a mindset out there that you don't do ARQ anymore.
HD - Sat 4 Dec 2004 13:28:54

If you cast your mind back some years, you could barely get anyone to go to the shift club if you were to beat them with a stick. They then did a refit of the place, and hosted theme parties such as G.A.Y and Ruby on Saturday nights.

It's been mentioned a few times on here before, but ARQ is over 5 years old and perhaps it's time the old girl had a facelift to make it new and exciting again, and to host theme nights/parties on the night that the majority of people want to go out: Saturday night. A major refit that included upgrading the sound and some inspirational lighting design (in both the arena and vortex) would do the trick i reckon.
- Sat 4 Dec 2004 14:52:50

im swimmin against the tide & heading there tonite to check out the new lineup - come get wet with me
cdb - Sat 4 Dec 2004 15:24:19

Babe, everybody doesnt have to love arq. We are a D I V E R S E community. Theres good and bad in everything. Perhaps the fact the Shift is gay owned and opperated makes it the venue of choice? Perhaps many pinkboard readers dont like either venue! Its a big world out there!
- Sat 4 Dec 2004 15:28:29

I’ve always preferred ARQ to the Shift, but only because I think ARQ is a superior venue, and we always seem to have our best nights there.

We haven’t previously been big fans of the Saturday night program (at the Shift either, actually) but will definitely be there tonight to check it out. Hope it goes off!

See you there cbd : )
jeffgg - Sat 4 Dec 2004 17:44:36

I'd say all the hotties are going to be at the Shift tonight, Arq might be a tad disappointing tonight because of the G.A.Y factor.
- Sat 4 Dec 2004 18:04:57

Purrrrrrrrrrrrrrrrr !!!
- Sat 4 Dec 2004 20:42:02

As it happens I seem to have most of my sex to trance music in one way or another (haha at one venue or another) - and it ain't girly, by any means!

Thinking now of going to both Armin AND Pride. Anyone else doing both? Anyone know if there'll be a gate to the Hordern near Fox Carpark so we can float between the two parties without going all the way around the outside on Lang Rd???
Trance Trance Trance - over the grrl-bashing and mysogyny-bashing - let's get back to the retro-bashing! - Sat 4 Dec 2004 21:11:39

Retro Retro Retro - Hoping to hear some retro stuff at G.A.Y tonite - Sat 4 Dec 2004 21:21:24

Please explain where you hear non girly trance in gay Sydney and who plays it pretty please! Which pride dj's?
need to know! - Sun 5 Dec 2004 06:26:34

please hope something replaces this great theme
Sammy D - Sun 5 Dec 2004 10:21:48

I do remember, it wasn't too long ago, when the shift was seen as the place you'd never go to. Then they closed it and relaunched it and it still took a really long time for people to start going there.

It was a combination of ARQ getting a bit sameish, the drug raids and the awful security all at once which, IMO, worked in changing the destination of choice to the shift. It was more of a push towards the shift (away from ARQ) rather than the shift being so good that it pulled everyone in.
HD - Sun 5 Dec 2004 14:59:49

pride will *generally* be a house party.. no "trance labeled" djs in the mix

btw arq had a great nite last nite... sexi crowd (still obviously mixed so that would rule some of you out), great music. jake & neal did a great job in the arena
heard GAY was a total blast too
but u cant go past bent @ manacle for sheer over indulgence in trashiness..
and how about that little guy dancing with the abs tatt all day long - what a hoot of a w'end.
- Sun 5 Dec 2004 16:08:50

I recall on the Friday night of the last Mardi Gras weekend, which you would expect to be one of the busiest Friday nights of the year, some friends and I tried to get into ARQ but were told The Arena wasn't opening, and The Vortex was "for women only". It was only when the Shift lost power that ARQ opened The Arena, and then most of the women in The Vortex flooded The Arena.

What is with this overpowering desire of women to hang out with gay guys? (This last bit is a bit tongue in cheek)
- Sun 5 Dec 2004 21:43:13

Well Luke wasn't very girly last time I heard him. (Neal lves his vocal trance as do I but that chest surely makes up for any girliness in the music!)

Goa and psytrance ain't too girly and Headquarters still plays a lot of psy mix tapes(!)

Buck Naked not girly.

Can't think of any more at the moment. I suppose Ruby and Stephen Simpson and co will be at the fizzy end of the trance spectrum at Arq but you just gotta be in the right frame of mind (and I'm not talking about drugs here) to absorb the beat as the main thing. All the other fluff that happens is merely the sugar coating for that hard throbbing manly beat!

It gets ya in yer soul! at 140 bpm!
Trance Trance Trance - Ooh yeah! - Sun 5 Dec 2004 23:58:30

That is terribly sad. What happened to her? This is truly awful news.
- Mon 6 Dec 2004 09:21:42

Editors SX News & Sydney Star Observer -

Dear Sir /Madam,

It is with great sadness that I wave goodbye to one my favourite events - The G.A.Y party.

Saturday night was the 10th and best G.A.Y Party ever. I cannot speak highly enough of Trudy , Chelsea , Amelia and Johan who over the last 3 years have worked their butts off to give the community a quality event where the emphasis has been on happy , sing-a-long commercial music. The 10 G.A.Y events have clearly proven that a market exists for this form of music and I dearly hope that some other party promoter out there picks up the G.A.Y baton in the near future and continues to provide regular parties with a similar musical policy. We lovers of commercial music badly need nights like these.

Thanks to all the crowd who made Saturday night one of the highlights of the year. And of course lets not forget the outstanding performances on the night from the DJ's I was luckily enough to hear in large doses.

A great great way to wind up the G.A.Y party as we know it. Thanks again to everybody involved. It was a sensational night out.

Goodbye G.A.Y - We will definitely miss you. Thanks for the memories
Stephen Blomfield - Mon 6 Dec 2004 09:58:02

Evil Twin - Mon 6 Dec 2004 12:20:58

Craigy - What's the name of that song? - Mon 6 Dec 2004 12:35:41

2. She tells all her single friends who descend en-masse - "some of those guys are *so* *cute" - what a waste!"

3. After a while, straight men on the prowl (for what, I'm never quite sure) identify the gay club as somewhere with lots of single partying chicks, so they start going "just so long as some poof doesn't pinch me on the bum"

4.(a) Venue either caves in to the inevitable - a buck's a buck, pink or otherwise, and doesn't restrict entry to anyone
or
4.(b) Venue tries to restrict entry of straight women. They can't easily legally keep out all women, hence the no open-toed shoes routine, which presumably was designed to keep out straight women, who always wear strappy sandals, and let in dykes, who only wear combat boots (relax, I'm being ironic)

5. Lipstick lesbian is denied entry and the venue is branded misogynist

As has been said above, if the venue, such as the Shift, was consistent, then it wouldn't be such a big deal. But in the Shift's case the rules seem to change depending on who is on the door.
GJ - Wed 1 Dec 2004 13:53:15

So what's your point? This arguement is getting boring guys get over your bitching & accept that we live in a society that men & women will party together no matter what your sexual preference is. Having stupid rules like this will only result to the gay community looking 'chidish' and exclusive. If we want marrige, adoption right etc then our exclusivity attitude has to change.

Personally I don't think straight girls are the problem but its those 'muslce' straight boys that come. They walk around with huge attitudes & then squirm when they see a bunch of gay boys kissing.

Also ARQ management why did you kick out Pete Farris?! The guy was/only reason I used to come to Arq!! Please don't replace him with another DJ who plays handbag girly house. He was in my opinion DJ that played a 'different' sound.
bring back Pete Farris fan club - Mon 6 Dec 2004 13:14:00

That's exactly right. Try walking into the Shift wearing thongs or sandles sometime and see if they let you in.
- Mon 6 Dec 2004 15:37:44

What self respecting gay man would wear thongs or sandals??!!
- Mon 6 Dec 2004 15:55:41

Precisely. And that's why many probably assume that no gay man could ever be refused entry to the Shift - because our apparent sense of fashion doesn't cause potential liability for the venue owner.
- Mon 6 Dec 2004 16:20:56

This week DJ Renae Stanton will be combining with female vocalist "Skanky Mole" (Melbourne). This should be well worth a look in.

The girls will be joined by DJ Adam Coverdale (from Lookin' Good @ Candy's Apartment) and Mike Kelly.

The records spin from 6pm-Midnight
2 for 1 cocktails 6-8pm

*prospective musical performers can apply in person
NO IMAGE NO ATTITUDE - sundays at LRH - Mon 6 Dec 2004 17:29:28

Put a D&G label on it and you'd be surprised - or maybe not!
- Mon 6 Dec 2004 17:29:55

Haha. I'm not sure "fashion" is how I would describe the Shift on a Sunday night. More like "tragic" the last few weeks. Used to be so full. Where is everyone? Come back! Trudi's always a hoot and the jackpot never goes off - so there's always hope! No-one sings along these days except on the few rare occasions it's shoulder to shoulder. Where are all the retro tragics when you want em?
Trance Trance Trance - Mon 6 Dec 2004 21:16:10

Like a cross between Jake KIlby and Luke Leal and Paul Goodyear. Comercial, Not too heavy, just light enough!! Perfect for Arq. You could describe it as "lycra house"
- Mon 6 Dec 2004 21:38:24

Mon 6 Dec 2004 14:10:44, i support that view, also. Arq is simply not gay enough these days. I still pine for the Sunday night crowd but haven't been for ages. Please try to keep Sundays gay
concerned - Mon 6 Dec 2004 21:43:18

This from www.police.nsw.gov.au

"Drug operation - Milsons Point

05/12/04

Harbourside Local Area Command arrested 13 people overnight following a drug operation in Milsons Point.

Operation Moondance was established after police had received intelligence that drugs were being used and distributed at a local night spot.

The operation involved both plain clothes and uniformed police, Anti-Theft, Detectives and the Dog Squad.

As a result of the operation 13 people were arrested for being in possession of drugs. Six field Court Attendance Notices and seven Cannabis Cautions were issued."

A "local nightspot"? Wonder how much Luna Park paid to keep "Luna Park" out of the press release?
Brad W - Mon 6 Dec 2004 23:45:44

i can't agree more - i tell this to peter every time i see him and it aint for the wank
he knows who - Tue 7 Dec 2004 00:03:35

Lord Bob's 2 for 1 cocktails (6-8pm) Yay!
Also, SKANKY MOLE(Melb) on vocals accompanied by Renae Stanton on decks.

DJ's Adam Coverdale, Renae Stanton, Mike Kelly

Hope to see ya

Thanks to: Jeremy Brennan for singing up a storm and to all the groovy guys and gals who danced for the cameras!
LRH Crew - Tue 7 Dec 2004 00:29:02

Sundays at the Shift used to be unmissable but now with the non-smoking area, it seems the atmosphere has been killed off. That area near the front used to be wall-to wall bears but now there's maybe one or two in the entire place.

I find the music is just as good as ever with Rodney doing a great job each week, but the atmosphere is so different now and nowhere near as much fun as it used to be.
- Tue 7 Dec 2004 05:49:33

Hey Brad,

I don't think police are targetting this venue anymore than most of the venues throughout the city on each weekend. I was at the event, and agree venue is fantastic, BUT it is very off putting that Luna Park is not closed to the public.

We went thinking the whole of Luna Park would be We Love, but that was not the case. When we got there kids/families are running around, which was a little uncomftable. Although I had a pretty good day, when stepping out of the venues the harsh reality of piercing family eyes was a downer!

Over the music was ok, some were great, and some (FELIX THE HOUSE RAT!!!) was totally crap! I hope for Mardi Gras recovery they have exclusive rights to Luna Park, because otherwise I will not attend a Recovery where families and kids are passing through!
Not the right image to be giving! - Tue 7 Dec 2004 08:02:48

Some of us who want smaller and more intimate are doing the Mandy Rollins/Feisty/Lanny K & Miss Yetti lineup at The Hellfire New Years Eve at Club 77
- Tue 7 Dec 2004 09:57:45

Are you unaware of the unbelievable irony of this statement? Or even the catch-22-ness of it?
- Tue 7 Dec 2004 11:26:40

Just bought my ticket to DTPM at Tank for $30, noice.
- Tue 7 Dec 2004 12:57:47

I'm doing PRIDE. What a DJ line up and the Dome is back...yes!
- Tue 7 Dec 2004 14:22:45

T R O P I C A L F R U I T S
- Tue 7 Dec 2004 14:38:09

RAWHIDE MELBOURNE
- Tue 7 Dec 2004 14:49:35

PRIDE

Bring on 2005!!!!
- Tue 7 Dec 2004 14:58:54

Trance Trance Trance - Mon 6 Dec 2004 21:16:10

OK that's it. I have had just about enough of this person continually insulting people who are lovers of retro music. We are not tragic anmd I find your comment highly offensive. We are just passionate about the sort of music we like. Contray to your opinion trance is not the be all and end all of dance music in this city (nor has it ever been) and the fact that retro music has been the success story of 2004 in Sydney is a testiment to the fact that it has a huge following.

I respect your love of trance music but I abhore your attitude in ridiculing those who prefer to be passionate about another style other than your own.

In future please continue to talk passionately about the music you love but knock off these tasteless and down right rude offensive remarks towards people who are simply passionate about a music genre that you don't like.

Personally I hate trance music but you wont find me on here calling trance music lovers all the names under the sun. I'm way above that.
Retro Retro Retro - Tue 7 Dec 2004 15:24:21

OK that's it. I have had just about enough of this person continually insulting people who are lovers of retro music.
Retro Retro Retro - Tue 7 Dec 2004 15:24:21

Maybe it's just me, but I always read Trance Trance Trance's jabs at Retro devotees as nothing more than tongue in cheek sparring which should be taken in good humour. Well that's how I read his posts.
- Tue 7 Dec 2004 15:49:25

Then maybe he should quit using words that according to the dictionary are insulting and disparaging of other people. Using snidy remarks like that are part of the lowest common denominator and show a lack of manners and integrity.
- Tue 7 Dec 2004 16:05:11

qn for my trance fix
fagtag for my hosue fix
cdb - Tue 7 Dec 2004 16:27:46

Um hello Toybox? I respect everyones passion for their own personal preference for music type. But I would hardly compare getting arq to 80% capacity 3 times to the amount of people paying to go to trance events. Yes many people like Retro. Many more like Trance.
- Tue 7 Dec 2004 16:32:14

And youre not alone honey! Calling someone "tragic" ain't funny or clever! Please respect that we are a D I V E R S E community. You can have trance, trance, trance all weekend! We are retro, rock, soul, hiphop, new wave, electro, house and more. Taking potshots at somone over their taste in music is simply egotistical. Taste is just like sexuality - theres no right or wrong,
- youre giving trance a bad name - Tue 7 Dec 2004 16:38:47

The Incredible Inedible Vegetable

The following queer artists are fuggin' amazing and will share their magic at Klub Kooky this Sunday night..
Ultra Violet - Performance - Painting - Sculpture - Music

Diablo, Glitta Supernova, Trash Vaudaville, Vernon Treweeke, Juzabelly, David James, Matt Stegh, Lionel Bawden, Chris Lego, Scott Free, Koji Ryuy, Jack Shit, Celia Curtis, Tony Kastanos, Annabelle Lines, Suzy Spoon, Sarah Coconis, Soraya Asmar, Bernadette Knight, Nobu, Georgia, Kath Ellis, Robert Puile, Jo Q Lah, Rush Electra, Demetra Christopher, Amanda McEwan, Rachel Lafferty, Bernadette Knight, Gila, GRC and many more.

one night only !!!!!!!!! Sunday 12th December //
club kooky //
77 william street east sydney (between crown & riley)//
Exhibiton opens at 9pm //
club swings from 10 pm //
broad casting live on sbs radio from 11pm - midnight //
dj seymour butz and gemma //
wow! only - $5 //
** the kookykids ** - be a happy-sexual! - Tue 7 Dec 2004 17:22:45

No, Fag Tag are bringing in their own friendly door staff and greeters for the night, and the usual Tank dress code/door policy will not be happening on Sun Jan 2.
- Tue 7 Dec 2004 19:25:46

And youre not alone honey! Calling someone "tragic" ain't funny or clever!
- youre giving trance a bad name - Tue 7 Dec 2004 16:38:47

Don't we as a community call such things as some Drag acts "tragic"? It's caused sarcasm. Where is everyone's sense of humour these days? Maybe Pinkboard needs to have some smiley icons to choose from so that everyone can lighten up a little perhaps? <img src="http://geocities.com/dk10_au/emoticons/jump1.gif" alt="Lighten Up" />
Why can't we laugh at ourselves anymore? - Tue 7 Dec 2004 19:26:23

Attending/working at..

Armin Van Burren @ Hordern
QN @ Home
Foam Party @ ARQ (im looking forward to this one, its been a long time since the last foaming - aka DCM)

Im then hoping to celebrate NYE/Day/whatever when I finish at ARQ... im sure that there will be a few of you guys still out and im guessing that man-bangle/(manacle) will be open for recovery?
Brad W - Tue 7 Dec 2004 21:51:06

You're not on your own, hun. I lurved VC. I miss PG on Sats at Arq like mad!!!
Tribal rules! - Tue 7 Dec 2004 22:16:55

Sorry if my humour has offended.

Actually - if you look back over my posts in recent months I hope you'll see that since you came on the scene and took serious offence at my handle, I've pretty much tried to stay out of the Trance/Retro wars. It's just too torrid. I really don't feel it all as passionately as you must.

I love trance music and have been learning to bedroom DJ it in the last year or so for fun and get off on the fact I know a bit about it.

The comment above that set you off this time was pretty funny and ironic, I thought - and about the Shift, not Trance music. I go to the Shift every Sunday - ergo, I submit myself willingly to Rodney's retro thing on a weekly basis and obviously quite like the vibe (or at least until the last few weeks when it's been a bit quiet).

Far be it from me to suggest so, but I really think you might lighten up just a wee bit on here.

Life is far too serious most of the time to take this place so much to heart. I come here for fun and escape. But I take long breaks from it when the arguments get too heated.

Anyway - love your retro, I'll love my trance, we'll all get together and dance some time. I doubt I'll see ya at Sublime on NYE dancing to Armin Van Buuren but, hey, I can live with that. Difference and diversity - yes even musical diversity - is what makes our community so beautiful. There's room enough for us all.

Here endeth the lesson.
Trance Trance Trance - Nice Guy - just ask me! Now, back to the music - DOOF doof Doof doof... - Tue 7 Dec 2004 23:05:41

Panther - Tue 7 Dec 2004 23:13:08

can we have dj paul vs lenny dee for mardi gras?
techno techno techno - Wed 8 Dec 2004 01:42:09

My friends and I are doing Field Day on new year's day and then Fag Tag on the Sunday.
- Wed 8 Dec 2004 07:42:48

Poor Mike - flying back to Sydney after Fruits? Shame you miss out on the after party.
~kr - Wed 8 Dec 2004 10:50:34

Yes, in my homo opinion, ARQ got rid of their two greatest assets: DJs Paul Goodyear and Pete Farris. These guys played a wide range of quality dance music, covering house, tribal, progressive, trance, retro, disco -- damn near everything. They broadened my musical horizons and gave me an education, turning me on to other genres besides, say, just trance trance trance or just retro retro retro. Paul regularly featured his own productions, remixes and edits. How many other DJs can make this claim? These were the things that made that club special.

Would somebody (preferably) gay please buy ARQ? Pretty please? As long as it is straight-owned and straight-managed, we cannot be sure it will stay in our community. It is a brilliant, world-class venue (though perhaps in need of a minor makeover, especially new flooring), and it would be shame to lose it. I would love nothing more than to buy it myself if I had the dough. Alas, I spent too many years as a regular ARQ patron to have actually saved any money (and I have a feeling that many of you can sympathise).
blah blah blah - Wed 8 Dec 2004 11:55:16

Come on, give fag tag/dtpm a go. It's the best new thing we've seen in sydney in a long time.
- Wed 8 Dec 2004 14:05:03

I loveeeeeeeeeee tribal too!! Did anyone catch Tom Stephan at Arq last year? My god best DJ I've seen live ..what a night that was!! Arq just aint the same without PG and Pete Farris...where do I go now? Can anyone tell me where I can dance/hear some tribal tunes?
- Wed 8 Dec 2004 14:14:29

I'm off to a Very Hellfire NYE at Club 77 for my fix of Mandy Rollins. Mainly because you can't get her anywhere else & it's a bit more queerly alternative than some of the other options.
- Wed 8 Dec 2004 14:42:35

More queer? Are you serious? Hellfire is predominantly made up of heterosexuals with a few poofs and dykes thrown in. I'd rather attend a party made up of mainly poofs and dykes with a sprinkling of heteros.
Pride for me this NYE - Wed 8 Dec 2004 15:28:24
This is the opinion of the poster.

arq may be straight ....... owned but its gay operated so maybe u should do your research before pointing the finger. It has always been owned by the same person who brought it to life in the community as it is now. why dont you use yr brain look up their website, email them yr concerns instead of throwing your hands in the air screaming gay this staright that save us puhllleeeessseee
- Wed 8 Dec 2004 15:52:29

Absolutely none.

For the 5th New Years Eve in a row I will be pleasantly planted in my bed either fast asleep or watching a DVD.

New Years Eve's are highly over rated.

It's the one night of the year where you are most likely to run into trouble with the following problems -

1. Taxis - Forget it. Impossible to find one.

2. Drunks - It's the most popular one night of the year where getting totally smashed on grog and acting like a total goose seems to be accepted.

3. Too Many People - Since just about eveybody wants to be out on that night there are a higher than normal number of yobs out there who are looking for trouble.

Now I know you're all gonna say that Pride will be a gay party and not have any of the problems I have detailed above but just remember whats going on at the Hordern on the same night in question, a straight dance party for 5,000 or more people many of whom wont be very tolerant of an opposite "poof" party on the other side of a fence.

Unless security that is being used for both these parties are at their utmost best I fear there may be some problems.

For me New Years Eve is just another night, its nothing special and I'm more than happy to have a different night out when I feel comfortable in the environment I choose to party in and i know I'm not going to have to roam the street for hours on end trying to get a cab home.
New Years Eve Sux - Wed 8 Dec 2004 16:39:31

We thought about doing QN the next night, but have family stuff on the next day that require a clear head
Evil Twin - off to the ballet tonight! - Wed 8 Dec 2004 16:43:58

Oh baby I am I am I am! Ill see you there with a crew!
Super excited about this sunday @ Klub Kooky. 'Bout time we had a collaborative queer happenning again. Some of those artists have exhibited in major galleries, some have performed with Peaches, all are local queers. See, there really is a community out there!
stocking up!!! - Wed 8 Dec 2004 17:05:54

I did catch Tom Stephan and he was good. But Paul is better in my homo opinion. Arq has made a major tactical mistake in moving PG on. No other DJ playing in the gay scene today could match PG's talent! He's not only technically brilliant, he produces original material, remixes and re-edits stuff others have produced, the upshot being you're not dished out the same old stuff you hear played in exact same way in every other venue. Arq will leave to regret this loss.
- Wed 8 Dec 2004 17:31:00

Never mind the Hordern event, they'll all be on pills and happy as hell.

Anyway, this is the PARTY wall, not the STAY AT HOME wall. Never the less, I respect your decision, and wish you a comfy NYE. I'll be at Pride.

xo
- Wed 8 Dec 2004 17:55:04

Would've loved to but there's 6 after parties planned for the rest of the w/e back in sydney. Given the length of this weekend to come it is maybe more a case of shame I missed the chance to sleep that night, or the extended spot of 'doing nothing' in the sun to follow Tropical Fruits.

Indulgence and the other recoveries are always worth coming home for though I love the 'day after' energy if people are still on form and running amok
MK - Wed 8 Dec 2004 18:33:02

Oh dear ... probably a good thing you are staying at home luv! ...

I went with my mate a few weeks ago to see Ferry Corsten play @ Sublime (at 'Home')... a straight venue and a straight crowd ... and it was a fantastic night! The crowd were there to have a good time and no-one looked twice at a few gay guys dancing and enjoying themselves.

I am going to the Hordern on NYE to hear Armin Van Buuren because it will be a great night. I'm all for supporting gay venues etc. but I'm not gonna let the fact that a party is not a 'gay event' determine where I spend my time because for me it's all about the music ...

... Maybe someone could buy a gay concert venue and invite Cher to play there so we don't have to mix with a straight crowd at the Entertainment Centre! Now there's an idea! ...
GD - Wed 8 Dec 2004 19:27:36

Oh believe me, ARQ have received their fair share of emails from me, and I'm afraid the responses have been disappointing at best. I am aware that the one remaining owner (I think originally there were four) was there from the beginning. But the fact remains that he is straight, as is the general manager. Yes, there are many gay employees, but the two head honchos are straight. So I think that I am correct in stating that ARQ is straight-owned and straight-managed, right? Anyway, I realise that this doesn't necessarily mean anything. Hell, Paul Goodyear and Pete Farris are both straight, and my original post clearly indicated that I support their involvement in ARQ. It's just that it would be much more likely that the club would remain community-focused if it were gay-owned and gay-managed, especially during the tough times that the club is currently experiencing. How else can we be sure that they support our cause wholeheartedly, and don't just want our money? On that note, I thank the owner for his support thus far; I hope that my cynicism is completely unjustified.
blah blah blah - Wed 8 Dec 2004 21:46:18
This is the opinion of the poster.

u.w. - Wed 8 Dec 2004 22:00:35

Dear, New Years Eve Sux - Wed 8 Dec 2004 16:39:31. when was the last time that you went to a straight party and experienceed what GD did....? Comments like yours piss me off, when was the last time you went clubbing and were harrassed by straight people..?? 1970 perpaps...? get with the times sweet-heart!

The comment from GD.... "Oh dear ... probably a good thing you are staying at home luv!" has hit the nail on the head.....

Personally I think that when people see what is happening on either side of the fence on NYE (not that anyone will be able to see over the cyclone fencing and green meshing) will ask the question "why didnt we got to that party..?" and that will be from either side of the fence...! straight and gay....

Time to get over this all straights = nasty and want to bash us thing.... wake up...!
Brad W - fuck this board is getting hard work - Wed 8 Dec 2004 23:39:29

I think it's time to start the POSITIVE hype for next years events (not just the party).

But on the topic of the party, I'm interested in hearing which dj's will be submitting and which ones won't.
- Thu 9 Dec 2004 07:38:19

Paul Goodyear is a phenominal DJ but he held that residency for the longest time and it was time for a change. Besides, from what I hear it was a mutual decision? Wasn't Paul losing interest in it? So how can you say Arq should not have gotten rid of him?

Secondly, Arq on Saturday nights has gotten progressively straighter, but do you think that might be because a lot of gay people abandoned it after the raids? If the club is really quiet on Saturday nights (which it was for a time after the raids) they are going to start letting straights in so that they can make money to cover costs.

We cannot also ignore the fact that although Paul is phenominal and many people love him, there is also a contingency who stopped going to Arq as they were seeking a change after so long.

If gay people don't want to lose Arq, then they have to start frequenting it and pushing the straights out. No use in moaning about it being straight if a lot of queers are not going to support it.

Thirdly, there are other Sydney DJ's who play tribal as well as Paul. Why not go out there and give a few others a go.

I'm a bit of a fan of Jake Kilby and I know he gets labelled a certain style. But I have also heard him do some rocking trance, tribal and progressive sets. The last two weeks at Arq on Saturday nights he has been brilliant, in my opinion. A great mix of house and tribal with a dash of trance.

I miss Paul too, but the change has happened. There is not much use living in the past. Embrace the future and give it a go. You never know, you might like it.

Lastly! I know Arq is owned and managed by straight people, but isn't Michael (not sure of last name) they key player there in deciding entertainment? I think he's the Promotions Manager, isn't he? The impression that I get is that the owners and GM rely on him heavily to ensure that things are working for the gay community. And he's gay.
I love Arq. - Thu 9 Dec 2004 08:36:33

Really? It would be nice if they updated their website or advertised interstate.
- Thu 9 Dec 2004 09:23:23

Yes, this is true - especially considering that the recent edition has been delayed in reaching some outlets. When will NMG update their website?
- Thu 9 Dec 2004 10:28:09

I don't think there will be any straight people at Cher. Not sure I'll be able to tell from the $195 cheap(!) seats, though. Eyesight not what it used to be.
Trance Trance Trance - This is the opinion of the poster. - Thu 9 Dec 2004 10:35:09

I love Arq. - Thu 9 Dec 2004 08:36:33

Who are these other tribal DJs?
- Thu 9 Dec 2004 10:38:11

Who are these other tribal DJs?
- Thu 9 Dec 2004 10:38:11

Er, Mandy Rollins ? Feisty? Oops - that's not really Arq tribal is it.
- Thu 9 Dec 2004 11:41:51

Sveta - she rocks!
- Thu 9 Dec 2004 11:56:07

That DJ box has to be one of the most poorly positioned boxes in clubland history.

How the hell does a DJ stay in touch with the vibe of the dance floor when he/she can't even see the dance floor from the DJ box itself.

What were the original planners of Arq and the Arena thinking when they put the DJ box where they did.

Clearly they had rocks in their heads.

I've travelled a lot in my time and seen many nightclubs both in Europe and the USA and I can categorically state that the DJ box in the Arena at Arq in my opinion is the most stupidly positioned DJ box I have EVER seen.
- Thu 9 Dec 2004 12:16:06

kelly lynch, mike kelly, lanny k and miss yetti, chris lo, mandy rollins, sveta, chip, buck naked
- Thu 9 Dec 2004 13:16:41

Yeah, but some of us have to work on Monday! And the Vortex ain't the Arena. Paul needs a BIG room for his BIG sounds. Oh, and lots of pretty lights'n'lasers don't hurt either.

BTW, if you're on Paul's group email list, I am surprised that you do not know the whole story regarding his 'departure' from Saturday nights (diplomacy alert!). Being the classy guy that he is, he was just trying to keep things positive in his email....
- Thu 9 Dec 2004 13:49:14

http://www.hotdiscomix.de/stars_clubs/djs/goodyear_en_int.htm

He lists his top 20 tracks of all time, and after seeing Madagascar's 'You're Beautful' and Billie Ray Martin's 'Your Loving Arms' in his top 5, I want to hear him spin. This man has great taste!
- Thu 9 Dec 2004 14:11:49

That would be lovely Brad, if drunk straight guys stopped bashing us up. Last week two lesbians walking up the road from Mars Lounge got attacked by a drunk guy because he though the girls looked like "poofters". Once he realised his mistake (that they were women), he wandered off after kicking the one on the ground a few times.

It will be "time to get over it" when it stops happening. Of course people are going to be apprehensive, specially on NYE when most people have had a few.
Evil Twin - Thu 9 Dec 2004 14:38:01

Yes it is a very, very poorly positioned box - next to the circular stairs with a view of the stage would have been much better. Psychologically I don't think a DJ should be staring straight at the door! Watching people come & go - even if it's just to go to the ATM - is distracting.

However you can see most of the dancefloor from behind the decks but apparently you have to get out on the mezzanine as well. I’ve seen a few DJs there jumping in & out of the box to get a closer look at things (maybe they’re just checking out the talent lol) and a bit of cardio never hurts! I assume it takes experience and working regularly in that room to form a rapport with the floor – it’s probably not infallible of course but familiarity must breed good judgement.

Having said that, full stereo foldback – 2x bass bins, mid rangers and tweeters (all individually adjustable) – it’s got absolutely stunning monitoring!
- Thu 9 Dec 2004 15:28:00

I don't know about the owner but I do know that Michael is defintiely gay!! Does it really matter whether the owner is gay or straight anyway as long as the decision makers are gay they will continue to stage events that cater to our community. I think the promotions manager at the shift is straight woman and that's a gay venue - so does it really matter????
i love arq too - Thu 9 Dec 2004 15:41:16

Now, since Sir Goodyear is such a classy guy, you'd think he'd lose that hat sometime soon. )
- Thu 9 Dec 2004 16:02:53

is that thing still around !?
homer simpson - Thu 9 Dec 2004 16:14:00

there's a tv so you can see the feed of the camera on the floor if you're too lazy to get out onto the floor
- Thu 9 Dec 2004 17:03:29

Yeah, lets hope the planned renovations include fixing this. If you cant see the faces of the people on the dance floor while your dj'ing, your never going to know if your playing the right track.
- Thu 9 Dec 2004 17:42:27

I understand that Paul Goodyear consulted on the design of the entire club for two whole years before it opened, and that he was responsible for the design (but definitely NOT the location) of the DJ box. Who can say why they put it there? There must have been a good reason. Feng Shui? Anyway, I seem to recall a couple years ago the old venue manager Billy said that renovations (including relocation of the DJ box) were imminent, but it never materialised. Now that the club is not exactly peaking, maybe it would be a good time to close for a bit and give the grand old dame a makeover. Nothing too drastic, mind you -- the overall layout, acoustics, construction and fitting quality are all fantastic (as you'd expect for a purpose-built dance venue with 5 years of planning behind it). The sound system also needs a good going-over to permanently rid it of its crackling gremlins; this simply should never happen.
- Thu 9 Dec 2004 18:44:14

Now you leave his hat wearing out of this - the poor man is balding. Have a little sympathy ploise!
- Thu 9 Dec 2004 18:56:04

Surely DJ boxes in the Hordern and the RHI are much further away from punters faces ? I think, as her holiness Kylie says, it’s got something to do with reading body language.
- Thu 9 Dec 2004 18:56:06

yeah ? lol !
Cubase VST - Thu 9 Dec 2004 19:59:17

http://www.jtcw.com.au/data/projects/arq_nightclub_taylor_square/arq.htm
- Thu 9 Dec 2004 21:32:50

Queer POC, a night where queer people of colour talk about their experiences in the queer community.

Join Nicole Barakat, Tom Cho, Jacub Perez and other artists in a night which boasts music mixed by Sveta, spoken word and film.

Sunday, 12 December, 2004

The Imperial, 35 Erskineville Rd, Erskineville

Doors open @ 6pm; Performances start @ 8pm

$15 full / $12 conc.

QPOC is identity-inclusive and non-clique. Please check your phobias and suspicions at the door. Bring your open mind, submissives, curiosity and respect. This is a butch, femme, transman, FTM, intersex, hermaphradyke, genderfuck, transensual femme, SOFFA, ethnodiversified, D/s respected space.

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Daddy's Little Girl - Fri 10 Dec 2004 08:18:58

Uh..yeah, they do. Paul always has a few irons in the fire but most recently remixed "Smalltown Boy" on Michal Nicolas' album "Uncovered", Luke remixed "I Lost My Baby (To The DJ)" for the same album and has a club mix on Cosima's current single "Now That You Can't Have Me", Alex did "I'll Carry You" for Hi-Fi MIke & "The Television Will Not Be Revolutionised" for Celebrity Drug Disasters (what a great name!). I know Paul has been doing remix & production work for ages but it's really, really cool to hear a DJ play their own stuff (and I kinda fell proud for them! )- hopefully we can look forward to them all spinning mixes of their own productions in the future.
- Fri 10 Dec 2004 10:13:24

Dear Fridae Members

As you may have already heard, the Singapore Police yesterday rejected our application for Snowball on the grounds that it was “contrary to public interest in general”.

We are in the process of appealing this decision, as we view it as a blatant discrimination against the gay community.

You may read more about this issue , and the reasons given by the Singapore Police at http://www.fridae.com/newsfeatures/article.php?articleid=1359

We sincerely apologise for any inconvenience this may have caused, and seek your understanding and patience as we try to resolve this issue with the authorities.

In the event that our appeal does not go through, and the party is cancelled, a full refund will be given. We will inform all ticket buyers of how to get their refunds at the appropriate time.

In the meantime, we would also appreciate your support by writing to the Prime Minister's Office, the Ministry of Home Affairs, and the Singapore Straits Times. These email addresses are listed below for your reference. Kindly copy info@fridae.com if you decide to write in.

Government Feedback Unit ( feedback_unit@mcys.gov.sg )

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- Fri 10 Dec 2004 11:48:58

Restaurant at Arq??? Where is this beast?
Trance Trance Trance - Fri 10 Dec 2004 12:26:59

The kitchen is behind the wine bar in the main arena. Believe it or not they used to have the restaurant set up on the main floor and clear it all out before the room opened on club nights.
- Fri 10 Dec 2004 14:24:22

connections nightclub’s 29th birthday – saturday 11.12.04

we’re no longer a debutante…almost a diva! that’s right, we’ve reached another milestone which has securely placed us in the record books as the southern hemisphere's longest running nightclub. so, to celebrate, we’re inviting djs kinky, scout, jj, michy t & reuben cameron up on to the decks to rain down a river of tunes. then, be here for an amazing show starring barbie q, shiela mann, dita, delta, christie, janelle & olivia. but that ain’t all…we have a whole heap of birthday giveaways…a whole heap of glitter…& a whole new look for the room. so drop your jaw at the door then get ready to party until dawn.

http://www.connectionsnightclub.com/newsletter/newsletter.htm
- Fri 10 Dec 2004 17:01:57

where will fagtag be?
- Fri 10 Dec 2004 17:54:57

It's called "Are You Jealous" by Dope & Dusted, the Toby Neal Club Mix is the one you'll be wanting. It is an Australian made track on Hussle Recordings. Nice & chunky!
- Fri 10 Dec 2004 18:11:08

wow, I didnt realise they were so prolific

I thought they might have done some work for a cool overseas label but Cossima ! ssssssizzle ! too hot for words.

seasons greetings everyone
Cubase VST - Fri 10 Dec 2004 18:40:22

where will fagtag be?
- Fri 10 Dec 2004 17:54:57
Tank nightclub (cbd under establishment hotel-great space) fagtag.com.au & tankclub.com.au
- Fri 10 Dec 2004 21:05:26

Are you speaking english? I don't understand you...
- Fri 10 Dec 2004 21:41:58

Cubase VST - Fri 10 Dec 2004 18:40:22

Why can it only be cool if it's from overseas? Local dance product has been top notch lately. Is Cubase VST that new erectile dysfunction drug?
- Fri 10 Dec 2004 23:48:50

Can anyone tell me if Up & Comers are able to sumbit to Margi Gras 05.. Where do they need to be sent and by when...

Cheers
NRK - Sat 11 Dec 2004 01:58:14

LOL - Go, the lesbian mud wrestling!
Expat - Sat 11 Dec 2004 09:16:51

My only wish for MG is they return RHI back to its favourite style of house/commercial and Hordern back to
Trance/Hardstyles.
Pretty please NMG - Sat 11 Dec 2004 10:19:55

you arent serious are you ?
Mr Panties - Sat 11 Dec 2004 14:12:52

New Mardi Gras continues the tradition of producing world class dance parties for the gay, lesbian, transgender, bisexual and queer community.
As such we are currently seeking submissions from both experienced and emerging DJs wishing to play at the Mardi Gras Party on Saturday, 5th March 2005
to ensure that this world wide standard is effectively maintained.
New Mardi Gras will follow a similar DJ selection process as per Sleaze 2004.
DJs will need to follow this process:
1. Send an ‘Expression of Interest’ to New Mardi Gras, which outlines:
a. Credentials
b. Proven support of the GLTBQ community
c. An outline of relevant past experience
2. From these Expressions of Interest, New Mardi Gras will select a short list of names and provide these DJs with more information relating to Mardi Gras Party 2005.
3. DJs will then have an opportunity to submit to New Mardi Gras a demonstration set, which they feel will suit Mardi Gras Party 2005..
4. New Mardi Gras will select the DJs for Mardi Gras Party 2005 from these demonstration CDs.
Expressions of Interest can be made to New Mardi Gras via email to newmardigras@mardigras.org.au or by fax on 02 9568 8666 by close of business Friday 17th December 2004.

Expressions of Interest close 5pm Friday 17th December 2004.
nc - Sat 11 Dec 2004 14:59:09

Shouldn't everyone who already meet these critera for Sleaze automatically skip this part and just send an 'expression of interest'?
- Sat 11 Dec 2004 20:34:04

lol, no, I think the suggestion was that Mr Cubase was being a soft cock for being a music snob. (can you say 'soft cock' on here Panther? If not, how bout 'soft c**k'?) Making light of career achievements, no matter how small in YOUR mind, is infinitely childish.
- Sat 11 Dec 2004 20:40:17

This is not true at all. New Mardi Gras have responded to my one enquiry about getting the brief for submissions. I have had no trouble communicating with them.
Kylie Rose - Sun 12 Dec 2004 08:26:08

That is the 'expression of interest' stage. What did you think it was?
- Sun 12 Dec 2004 13:30:46

Luke Leal was on until 4am, then it was Sveta.
- Sun 12 Dec 2004 17:42:44

Do you mean 4am? - Sista P started then, before that was Luke Leal. There is a board outside the revolving door on both floors with the line up each night.
- Sun 12 Dec 2004 18:15:59

Luke Leal. Question answered
- Sun 12 Dec 2004 18:16:21

Actually no... an expression of interest is just that (ie a letter saying you are interested in performing at the party) NMG are asking for more than that. (ie Proven support of the GLTBQ community ) I'm just saying if you already met this criteria and were asked to submit a demo for the last party...oh forget it.
- Sun 12 Dec 2004 18:21:59

2nd sat of every month and well worth a look!
- Sun 12 Dec 2004 19:13:07

That was Sista P for sure. Got there at about 6 and she was putting plenty of strut and wiggle into the place. Another good reason to hit Pride
mk - Mon 13 Dec 2004 01:13:56

The last song played before midnight at pride 2000 in the Hordern was Jennifer Lopez "Waiting for Tonight".

The middnight show used an updated version of Europe's "The Final Countdown".

As for the first song played by the DJ on that night I honestly can't remember however the DJ was Paul Goodyear. If you want an answer to that question I suggest you contact him

If you get an answer to the question please be sure to post it on here cause you've now got me wondering what it was as well.
My 5 cents worth - Mon 13 Dec 2004 08:26:54

Since when is a DJ who finishes his set at Arq at 4am "warming them up". God I must be getting old.
Aiden - Mon 13 Dec 2004 09:30:33

ARQ doesn't usually close until about midday on Sunday. 4am is comparatively early - 6hrs after the doors open, and 8hrs until they close.
- Mon 13 Dec 2004 09:55:55

Arrrr yes, its good to know that there are still plenty of trailer trash who stay at Arq until midday.
- Mon 13 Dec 2004 10:15:52

**Sista P**

She also has the midnight slot at PRIDE NYE (outdoor space/12am-2am). Can't wait for the NYE countdown, as Sisa P is working on something very special...

Let's rock into 2005 with Sista P!
www.candylips.com.au - Only a few more weeks left.... - Mon 13 Dec 2004 10:59:48

Continuing our trend of "every sunday, somewhere different" next sunday is Gurlesque. Woo Hoo!
Evil Twin - Mon 13 Dec 2004 13:45:48

you obviously dont look hard enough they still happen sure the numbers are down but its far from over. Venues are also being a lot more careful and are monitoring people and removing them before they drop on the premises.
- Mon 13 Dec 2004 16:07:36

Malebox
VIP Bar, Third Level
Wednesday Nights from 9pm til late

NEW! Sunday Sessions @ Stonewall
VIP Bar, Third Level
Sunday Nights from 9pm til late

An easy-going night for a relaxing drink with friends while winding down from the weekend, or warming up for further shenanegans through til Monday morning.

Drop in for a drink and say hi!
- Mon 13 Dec 2004 16:28:20

The Dj was Sista P.

In future, why don't you just ask anyone at Arq.
Then go up to the DJ and tell them how much of a GR8 job their doing.
Use Ya Legs Next Time - Mon 13 Dec 2004 17:45:21

Go to NYE @ Pride........ FAB Dj lineup!

Problem Solved........Next!
SupportQueer! - Mon 13 Dec 2004 19:11:04

How can you consider QN and "institution" compared to PRIDE?
- Mon 13 Dec 2004 20:03:36

yup QN is the one - I hear that the top floor of home has been re built and re-modeld as per homes new venue the whitehorse, vanity was telling me that the whole show side of things has also changed. Maybe do both, or even all 3 if your up to it. Support all 3 queer events..?
- Mon 13 Dec 2004 20:07:18

I don't think it was being compared to Pride, actually. The question was "QN or Fag Tag". Nowhere in this question is Pride mentioned. Therefore your comment is null and void.

Cool Hand Luke, I'd do QN. I have a blast every time I go.
- Mon 13 Dec 2004 20:39:54

Ooops, apologies.

Well I've never been to a Fag Tag, and only to one QN which was fairly average, so I'd stick with Pride
- Mon 13 Dec 2004 21:14:51

I am going to Melbourne in early January (1st time in 15yrs!!), and was wondering where the "club of choice" was and on what nights is it best to go?
melbourne virgin - breaking the mould ; ) - Mon 13 Dec 2004 22:51:50

you can catch her play regularly at
biweekly Columbian Thursdays;
every 6 weeks Moist@Arq Fridays;
weekly Soho Saturdays;
monthly Arq Saturdays;
monthly Lord Roberts Sundays
- Mon 13 Dec 2004 23:13:44

Kids, it will be huge! Can't wait to see Mrs Joyce Claws (Klaus)!!!!!
R - Mon 13 Dec 2004 23:16:38

My advice would be the Market on Saturday nights and Candy Bar on Sunday arvo. Not sure what everyone does on Sunday night after Candy Bar, but you could just follow the crowd.
- Tue 14 Dec 2004 07:19:48

Candy Bar has kind of gone to the dogs. K Bar at Blu Pols would be it now on a Sunday.
- Tue 14 Dec 2004 08:53:02

Been there, done that with queer nation. Do something different and check out FT at Tank. As a hot nightclub it shits over anything else in this town.
- Tue 14 Dec 2004 11:46:02

This may be true but I am beginning to believe venues need to take much more care in their handling of punters who appear out of it in one way or another. People ejected or removed by a "mate" for drug/alcohol intoxication may well have had their drink spiked and be placed in an extremely vulnerable position.

A letter in last week's SSO highlighs the issue and it's also come up in a couple of recent straight drink spiking incidents where the victim was thrown out by security and woke up next day raped.

Security is clearly a tough job at times and requires maturity and care in making quick decisions about how to deal with punters who are apparently off their face. But I think there needs to be a bit of a rethink so that more time and care is taken with those about to be ejected - and especially with those apparently being taken out of a venue by "mates" even though they can hardly stand up.

More care for the situation of the person who has lost control should be taken. They might be v messy at the time but we all want to see them back fit and well next weekend. We don't want any more people bashed, robbed, raped, killed. None of which are a good look!
Trance Trance Trance - Tue 14 Dec 2004 11:50:37

Evil Twin - Tue 14 Dec 2004 12:19:31

When it comes to overdoses (mainly g), a major problem that most venues encounter is the decision of whether to eject the person from the venue and dissolve responsibility, or to do the morally commendable act of calling an ambulance.

So why is this such a hard decision for venue operators? Every time a venue calls for an ambulance, it is recorded and the police are informed of the situation. To my knowledge (someone please corrent me on this if I am mistaken) a venue is only permitted eight ambulance calls per year before it is either shut down or extreme pressure is placed on theme, such as constant raids, etc.

So what we have is either venues trying to save their own behinds by dumping vulnerable patrons in a potentially fatal situation, or helping save their life and risking their trading license.

In most of these overdose cases, they are a result of stupidity and lack of respect for yourself, your friends, your venues and the community as a whole. If you overdose on G, an ambulance should be called, and you should be banned for life.
Murray H - keep our venues open - Tue 14 Dec 2004 12:30:03

Yes, but it will not beat the yaer Duncan was Santa...
- Tue 14 Dec 2004 12:39:22

Well said, and with the silly season well and truly upon us, the responsible use of drugs like G by the use of careful (written) monitoring will ensure none of our public or private partying ends in distress.

Evil twin, was lovely to try and play pool with you on Sunday. I wonder when people are going to realise what great music is being played all day on Sundays at Manacle? The line up has been awesome the last few weeks.

Happy and safe Christmas all.
Noisy Gypsy - Tue 14 Dec 2004 12:47:59

From my experience, the bigger the name, normally (not always) the more professional the attitude to system protection and quality sound being desired.

At our most popular gay club, the in-house technician (despite being an LX designer and engineer) has control over all technical aspects of that venue. They have a clear view of the compressors and let the DJs know when they are getting into the 'red'. Getting into the 'red' means that the DJs music is being compressed and therefore the dynamic range, and hence quality, of their music is being compromised. It is a very silly DJ who doesn't heed these messages of assistance to ensure a good full dynamic range within the limitations of the system.

And, fortunately, most DJs actually want to be reminded when this happens because they get very wrapped up in the music, not necessarily the level. It's a 'working together' thing - caring about the overall gig, not just their particular aspect.

Perhaps if this is not happening in other venues, they need to rethink who has the control, who is watching the system and rectify the management of same to avoid DJs running (quite often unknowingly) well into the 'red' or worse, totally distorting the output level of the mixer, causing that crackling and popping so often heard.

Just my Christmas wish for a cleaner new year of audio excellence.
Noisy Gypsy - Tue 14 Dec 2004 13:03:47

What a completely irresponsible comment. I'm appalled that you would even consider adopting this attitude. They are both major problems, are we're not limited to just those two either.

Over the past month or so, I've seen about four G overdoses, all of which have been people that I know. I assure you, the last thing on my mind was to "not worry about it".
- Tue 14 Dec 2004 14:44:08

I would like to say though that a while back I mentioned that in one sydney club I reffered to speakers cracking and popping as a "usual problem".

It was defended as being because of a particular piece of equiptment in use that night, well, since that night Ive heard it on two seperate weekends, none of which weekends had said piece of equiptment in use.

That makes it "usual".
- Tue 14 Dec 2004 15:42:57

Nodding off are you for real? Do you even realise the dangers of this drug? Most people taken to hospital are placed on life support!! And these stupid people go out again and continue to take it!

Go figure.. There will always be a problem as there are always narrow, stupid, selfish people out there!
Over the G thing! - Tue 14 Dec 2004 16:07:51

What's wrong with mentioning a venue's name? Besides emailing the venue directly (which should always be done anyway), I think this is a great way to try get something done about it. It might also encourage other people to email the venue directly (strength in numbers!). We're only trying to make things better, right? Our constructive feedback should be welcomed, methinks!
power to the people - Tue 14 Dec 2004 18:55:37

Hope the following helps...

“All the cute gay boys are still at Kandy on a Sunday”
- Jono Francisco from BLAG, Thursday morning club round up on Joy Melbourne. 09/12/04

“...and sizzling sounds from Kandy DJ line up”
- Outbound MCV Newspaper. 02/12/04

“ Don’t forget to stop by Candy on Sundays....there’s party aplenty in this Greville St gem!”- the K-list by Kaye Sera, Melbourne Star/Bnews 09/12/04

The experts have made there judgement so come along to the tradition that is Sundays @ Kandy.

Regards from the only promoter that Candy Bar kept for Sundays...
Pup
- Tue 14 Dec 2004 19:56:49

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