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Over the attitude.You've hit it on the nail. I don't frequent alot of the Oxford St bars/clubs anymore as I am tired of being faced with young 'out of it'boys with little if no respect for others,their motto being 'you had your turn its ours now'.So wrong and so unattractive.The 'We are better then anyone else' type approach to life,unhealthy & self-destructive. What has happened to our scene? Is it really getting that bad that overseas travellers can't be bothered visiting our shores? Its really starting to look this way. And then of course theres the constant DJ' battle....real important stuff eh?....Life altering even.
disappointed too. - Thu Nov 9 9:59:09 2000

Welcome to the Party Wall!
Wastrel & Strumpet - Thu Nov 9 9:59:34 2000

Bugger - pipped by 25 seconds - now we have a wall beginning with 'disappointed too' - trust its not an omen. :-)
Wastrel & Strumpet - Thu Nov 9 10:01:08 2000

Well I only attend a few parties a year so can someone please tell me from the Pride NYE DJ's if I like dance music thats got a pretty fast beat ( attended a Hey Homo and the main dance floor was great ) which Halls which DJ's should I aim for ? Please just a nice reply , lets start this Wall off without too much vileness
Thanks - Thu Nov 9 10:13:03 2000

Bugger I knew a new wall had to be comming soon I should have logged on here before doing my email stuff
BND - Thu Nov 9 11:34:16 2000

Nov 9 10:13. All the DJ's playing in the Hordern NYE play fast music. Check it out and enjoy yourself.
Thu Nov 9 11:40:23 2000

Thu NOv 9 11:40:23 2000 Appreciate your reply. Thanks for the info will be in the Hordern most definitely.
Thanks - Thu Nov 9 11:54:31 2000

Thanks - Thu Nov 9 10:13:03 2000 - The best hall for you then would be the Horden, DJ's are Gavin Bright (Trade '99, Hand in Hand '98, Mardi Gras 2000, Pride 97, Tropical Fruits '98 '99), Sue Spears (Sleaze ‘94 ‘95 ’97, Pride ’99), Mark Alsop (Tropical Fruits ’99). Should be Hi nrg trance/house.
Let's keep it nice, Sue is in and will do a great job if we let her. - Thu Nov 9 11:56:06 2000

re the last post - no Sue spears should not be allowed to do a good job....she should not be even doing the job in the first place
Thu Nov 9 12:11:04 2000

'Blue', tonight starring David Smith, Bill Morley and Mandy Rollins. Co-Starring Bertha and her Freaky Disco Bunnies. Guest Appearences By Bongo Boy Tony and The Blue Unicorn.This weeks episode features Porno Funk. Lizard Lounge, 10pm to late.
Thu Nov 9 12:13:18 2000

Dear " lets keep it nice " if thats the truth , the I will be one happy bub in the Hordern. Very much appreciate and so far noooooo catty replies.
Thanks - Thu Nov 9 12:58:53 2000

Dear "lets keep it nice and thanks nov 9 10:13. Sue Spears also played at Mardi Gras 1999. She closed in the Hordern (not bad eh, for one who has supposedly never even played in a real night club)Mardi Gras 1998, also in the hordern. 1997 she was given a shift by Mardi Gras but turned it down due to the fact that she was DJíng at Heaven Nightclub in London where she had residency every Saturday night for almost a year. Agree with Lets keep it nice as to music style and pavillion for "Thanks. To the others: Does Heaven, being the second biggest club in Europe, qualify as a "real nightclub""? I'm not trying to be smart or bitchy, I'm just wondering. P.S to the person who wrote the dj's are stuck in the 80's- Sue started DJing in 1991 or 1992. If you heard her in the 80's love, I think it was wishfull thinking.
another music fan - Thu Nov 9 13:35:53 2000

Another letter to Pride: Dear Sir/Madam. I would like to congratulate you on your selection of DJ's for the next 'Pride'. It is especially exciting to see that Sue Spears will be playing as she is ranked in my books as one of the best. I expect that you will also be recieving letters from other people within the community that are just as elated about the DJ selection as I am.Kind regards
Alex Dynon - Thu Nov 9 15:08:32 2000

Dear Pride, we think it's an outrage that you should have any say in the DJs playing your party. You should choose the DJs WE want instead. I have a friend who put in a tape, I don't want to mention his name, but he really is a very talented DJ (hint hint) ...
Thu Nov 9 15:22:29 2000

There is no doubting that sioux spears is a very talented and popular DJ.However you people dont seem to have any moral ethics do you ? A person on the committee that chooses the DJ's is being totally wrong in choosing themselves.Cant you see that ? Sioux should DJ at the party,however she needs to resign her position at Pride to quell any further allegations of conflict of interest.
Thu Nov 9 15:40:23 2000

Just so long as the Hordern is going to have a fast beat / hi nrg/slight techno/trance whatever......you know what I mean, I will be haaaaaaaaaaaaaaapy.
Yeeee Haaaaaaa - Thu Nov 9 16:00:30 2000

The conflict of interest has already occurred. As a community organisation, the board has a responsibility to use DJs that will have the best chance of selling out the party and promote its success for future years. Sioux may be talented, but she does not have the commercial appeal to filfill the abovementioned goal. Most people have not even heard of her. Her alleged resume is impressive, however she is not known as a "big party" DJ is Sydney, and the selection serves only to promote her as a big party DJ rather than promote the party itself. If the selection process has been fair, then Sioux should decline the position so that she is seen to be independent. In a profession, such as law or accounting, this stance is essential. Let's show that DJs are in a respectable profession as well. Sioux, for the sake of Pride, its party, and your own repuation, decline the offer to play the party now. Then resign from the board and go through the selection process again for next year, when hopefully you will be able to display your talents in a manner fair to all.
Darrin Stephens - Thu Nov 9 16:08:01 2000

Darrin Stephens sounds so terribly sensible.Its the most logically put argument and sensible thing that i have ever read on this board over the Sioux Spears issue to date - well said !
Thu Nov 9 17:27:08 2000

I'm gonna re-name this whole controversy "The Speargate Affair"
Fri Nov 10 1:01:06 2000

Dear Pride, Nov 9, 15:22. Exactly.
Fri Nov 10 3:40:26 2000

To Darrin Stephens- Just a couple of things. 1. Please explain your comment - "her alleged resume" 2. Are you speaking on behalf of "most people"? 3. How many dance parties does she have to play in order to become "a big party dj"?
curious - Fri Nov 10 3:50:40 2000

Faye Raye was co-ordinator on the Inquisition party committee this year, with responsibility for selecting DJs to recommend to the Leather Pride board (correct me please if I am wrong). She is also an extremely talented DJ and her style of music would have been perfect for Inquisition this year (far more so than Kate Monroe). Faye, however, would not even consider putting herself forward as a DJ for that party because of 'conflict of interest'. Regardless of what anyone thinks of Sioux Spears as a DJ, "nepotism" and self-selection should not be tolerated at community dance parties such as Pride and MG.
TW - Fri Nov 10 7:31:05 2000

TW - I cant believe it !!!! I have rarely ever agreed with you on this board but today my friend, we are as one !!! Soul Sisters in upholding good morals and keeping our principles held high.Yes you are right about Faye Raye.The woman did select the Inquistion DJ's but she is a woman with high integrity and a damn fine person as well (and not to forget a extreemly talented and hot DJ).She (unlike the fools at Pride) know what integrity is all about.
A>D - Fri Nov 10 8:15:17 2000

Mr C.Maynard
President of Sydney's Pride Centre
26 Hutchison Street
Surry Hills, NSW, 2010

Dear Sir,
**Integrity** - the quality of possessing and steadfastly adhering to high moral principles or professional standards.
**Principals** - first issue or among the first issues in importance or rank
**Morals** - based on what somebody's conscience suggests is right or wrong, rather than on what the law says should be done
**Cronyism** - special treatment and preference given to friends or colleagues, especially the giving of political or employment posts to people because of friendship and relationships.
As President of Pride you should be aware of the above qualities.The first three are things that the Gay and Lesbian community would expect of a company the likes of Pride.The Fourth on my list is something that we should never expect of Pride.
The selection of DJ Soiux Spears who hold office at Pride has completely turned the tables on all of the above.It lacks integrity - and has NO principals or morals whatsoever and smacks of cronyism.
Pride need to explain themselves not just to its membership but to every aspiring DJ in Sydney who was unsuccessful for the job that you called out expressions of interest for.
I'm very angry about this issue as one of my best friends is a DJ who applied to Pride unsuccessfully and she is bitterly disappointed at the way in which Pride has handled its DJ selection - as I am too.
If Soiux is to continue to accept this DJ posting then she should not be holding office at Pride and resign immediately.

Cathy Francis - Fri Nov 10 9:20:15 2000

Dear Curious - from what I have been reading on this wall I am confused too - " her alleged resume " well posts keep saying she played this and that, then another post says no she didn't it was ....blah blah blah. So "alleged" is a good term for the moment. I would say by the number of posts against the DJ choice would term it for " most people ". How many big dance parties does she have to play - fair enough question here but seeing as I have attended them all for the last 15years I only remember her from the early 90's and although apparently she has played them in 97/98 but unfortunately I must have preferred another Hall. I have read where the 3 DJ's that will be in the Hordern will all be playing hi energy music - my favourite, so although the process of choosing was flawed, I'm now happy. Kate got away with it, so will leave that point for others to argue.
Seconded. - Fri Nov 10 11:27:16 2000

Hi Curious. My comment re "the "alleged resume" is not to doubt her credentials. There have been conflicting reports as to Sioux's resume on this board, and without being provided with anything from Pride or the Sioux herself, I have no idea what the correct situation is. Let's give Sioux the benefit of the doubt for the sake of the argument and agree that she has played at everything this board has said she has. It changes nothing. (2) Yes, I believe I am speaking for "most people". The information given on this board about Sioux' resume suggests that the big parties she played at were up to many years ago. Many new people are coming onto the queer dance scene, and many older ones are dropping out. So I believe that, for a Pride DJ to be commercially viable, they must have residencies at large clubs in Australia, or/or played large parties in the last two to three years. Otherwise, is to too hard a sell. Hope this helps!
Darrin Stephens - Fri Nov 10 11:39:40 2000

I second that Darrin.
Seconded - Fri Nov 10 12:55:20 2000

Sleaze is tomorrow night...... can we say: Get Over The Spears Thing!
Fri Nov 10 12:59:52 2000

so what if sleaze is tomorrow night.this is the party wall.Theres a seperate wall to talk about sleaze,go there if you must :)
Fri Nov 10 13:42:17 2000

Are people using "x"'s again on this wall - or was that just a 13 type of thing?
lovin' it - Fri Nov 10 13:46:00 2000

Yes we should shoot DJ's when they turn 30. Either that or send em to Texas.
lovin' it - Fri Nov 10 16:12:00 2000

don't understand either of the above two postings.
Fri Nov 10 17:20:37 2000

To Darrin Stephens- Thanks for your response. Fair enough, you are certainly entitled to your beliefs and opinions. 1 thing though, played large parties in the last 2 to 3 years. As previously reported, she played at Shine -Pride 1998/9, Hordern Pavillion , I believe she played 3rd. Mardi Gras 99, closed the Hordern, Mardi Gras 98, Hordern again. I think that fits into your qualifing period.
curious - Fri Nov 10 18:21:41 2000

AS said before, the Pride line up is fine, but they still need to incorporate some major commercial names too, as the basic majority likes commercial, mainstream music. I'm not saying this is right or good, just that it is fact. There are smaller groups of people that get into hard house, underground or sleazy funked up grooves, but the majority still likes it commercial. Pride needs to cater for that.
Fri Nov 10 19:55:06 2000

Who played at last years Pride? I cant remember but it was good!
Fri Nov 10 22:44:56 2000

10/11/00 Miss Minogue flew in on BA 9, flew down to Melb, then back up to Syd tomorrow :-))
Sat Nov 11 0:14:04 2000

Who played at last years Pride? I cant remember but it was good! Fri Nov 10 22:44:56 2000 ------- In the hordern 1st Paul goodyear....the kate Munroe (who was disgusting) and Rob davis closed in 1999 Pride
Sat Nov 11 2:19:44 2000

Sat Nov 11 2:19 Kate Munroe was disgusting? Now thats constructive critism is it. And I think you are actually mistaken.
more kate envy? - Sat Nov 11 5:36:49 2000

Well according to the capital q advert for pride the DJ's for the third venue are David Hiscock, Rodney Dean and Roger Z. So this should inspire more interesting opinions on whether we should go to pride this year
The Doctor - Sat Nov 11 8:26:48 2000

wow, that's an inspired line up.
El Panteez - Sat Nov 11 9:50:56 2000

Look, I don't really know a lot about all the drama surrounding the Sioux Spears thing but to be honest I think she's a fantastic DJ and I for one wish I could be in Sydney to hear her play at Pride. Cronyism, nepotism, I don't care - could we just be a little nicer to each other and enjoy the music?
Kate - Sat Nov 11 11:15:48 2000

Pride's third venue is a tent, that will supply us with some retro and cheesy cover versions. Good on ya Rodney for getting it. However, this still does not offer the general public with modern commercial dance tunes.
Sat Nov 11 14:34:39 2000

sleaze was incredible.
Sun Nov 12 14:59:20 2000

replying to,what would appear to be,a dj with an axe to grind.

Dear dj,miss out on being selected did we?Oh dear, what could the selectors be thinking! Don't they know you were the best dj for the job at hand. Perhaps you're submission got lost in transit, Did you check? yes ! Did you check you're tape or CD recorded properly ? yes ! Did you submit a bio of yourself? yes ! Perhaps the dj's selected [including Sioux Spears who in fact did remove herself from the selecting process,just in case anyone S C R E A M E D favourtism,not that she thought anyone would!*?**],happen to be the dj's with a across the board formula that Pride were looking for this coming party. Or is this notion to outrageous to entertain ? Be gracious it's much nicer. Just before I forget...It's Monroe not Munroe and "is Steven Ferris straight"?? Really??Nooo really??
Affectionately written by Lexie Bradfield - Sun Nov 12 15:10:54 2000

Lexie - you must be hitting that scotch and dry again in excesses ? LOL
Sun Nov 12 16:16:21 2000

The Board of Sydney PRIDE Centre has decided to respond to the criticisms levelled at it on PinkBoard. So that you can be assured that our statement is genuine it has been posted on our website rather than this (anonymous) forum. For the facts on DJ selection go to www.PRIDECentre.com.au/news.htm
Neale Craker, Company Secretary, Sydney PRIDE Centre - Sun Nov 12 18:01:02 2000

To LOL You are just nasty.
show some intelligence - Sun Nov 12 19:36:05 2000

To Cathy Francis One of my best friends is a DJ who applied, obviously, does the term "vested interest" mean anything to you. Your friend ?- Bitterly Dissapointed at the selection process ?- Sounds more like just bitter to me.
vested interest? - Sun Nov 12 19:42:43 2000

Dear only a boy. If only you thought like a woman. Then perhaps you would have something interesting to say.
Doubtfull - Sun Nov 12 19:47:54 2000

New Year's Eve DJ Selection Process Following some discussion regarding the selection of DJs for the "Pagan Night" New Year's Eve Party, the Board of Sydney Pride Centre released the following statement: "Thank you to those people who have taken the time to express their opinions about the DJ selection for this year’s New Year’s Eve Party. The majority have been most favourable, however, there appears to be a vocal minority who are not happy. The position of the Board of Sydney Pride Centre on this matter is as follows: Sioux Spears and Kate Monroe are professional DJs and have also volunteered many hundreds of hours of their time to the Centre in their capacity as directors. It is our view that involvement with Pride does not automatically disqualify a person from applying for a position. Where there is a Potential conflict of interest it is our policy to do the following: 1. Declare that a potential conflict of interest exists 2. Ensure that the person involved takes no part in the final decision 3. Ensure that selections are made on merit This year the selection was carried out by a committee consisting of 2 board members, the party Artistic Director, and an outside independent consultant. Tapes were marked A, B, C, etc so that the selection panel did not know the names of the DJs during the selection process. A similar process was used last year. We are satisfied that no conflict of interest has occurred and we believe we have acted with propriety in the appointment of the DJs It is disappointing to us that people have chosen to criticise the process of DJ selection without making any attempt to ascertain just what that process was. It is also disappointing to us that one or two of the unsuccessful DJs have taken to trying to stir up a controversy. We have every confidence that the DJs selected will deliver the goods on the night and help make “Pagan Night” a truly memorable event. Neale Craker Company Secretary Sydney PRIDE Centre On behalf of the Board ------------ Dear Neale,How Dare you for one solitary moment make it your final decision that the complaints about your F*ucked DJ selection process have come from DJ's.There are many people in the gay and lesbian community who wouldnt know how to turn on a dj console let alone be a dj - these people are just your average guys and girls who take an interest in making sure that dodgy companies like Pride are "seen" to be doing the right thing.Your statement explianing the way in which this Spears girl got chosen is "highly" not believable and I think you have botched up this expalination at the last minute to try and look honourable by explaining away the foul way in which you have given preferential treatment to a mate.It makes me wanna puke. And This is MY opinion which is shared by many many mnay other non DJ party goers.
what a load of crap - Sun Nov 12 23:15:14 2000

How do you get one hundred pikachus on a bus? Poke em on....
hehe - Mon Nov 13 3:34:27 2000

If "what a load of crap" isn't a bitter, twisted, unsuccessful DJ and is genuinely a "non DJ party goer" why don't they have the guts to name themselves?
Damon Harold - Mon Nov 13 8:20:15 2000

How were the sleaze recoveries?? How was Frisky last night - wished I was there!
Mon Nov 13 9:44:50 2000

Damon Harold I couldn't agree with you more. re:what a load of crap. They are all so brave in their anonimity, aren't they. Personally, I just love the way this person claims to speak on behalf of many, many ,many non DJ party goers, when its more than obvious that it is the same person, posting on this board, over and over again. Boring and lame. Doesn't matter though, whether "what a load of crap" names himself or not, since its becoming increasing obvious, just exactly which bitter & twisted unsuccessful DJ this is.
Lou Simon - Mon Nov 13 9:54:22 2000
This is the opinion of the poster.

People like Lou Simon who know nothing about what they are talking about are a disgrace
Mon Nov 13 15:39:01 2000

OK for a relatively new person on the scene and re the NYE DJ's. Went to Sleaze and loved the fast music in Domewhatever the style is called. Did not like Alkins style ( beat was forever changing from record to record ) and not fussed on the American in RHI. So can anyone let me know from these various styles, which one will be in the Hordern for NYE ?
Appreciate it - Mon Nov 13 16:19:26 2000

Pride NYE Hordern djs Gavan Bright and Mark Alsop play the style you heard in the RHI by the Australians, Greg Bolladian & Jake Kilby. The style the American dj (Thunderpuss) played is being played at Pride in a tent, by David Hiscock. The style you loved in Dome is called hard house and none of the djs selected really play it, but the much maligned Sioux Spears (who's playing the middle set in the Hordern) probably comes the closest. Ben Drayton in the Dome would be my pick of the sets available and you can preview him at Phoenix on Saturday nights. He's like Alkins, but without all the breaks & tempo variations...
~!@#$%^ - Mon Nov 13 18:20:44 2000

I cant believe what i just read - "david Hiscock plays the same as the RHI American DJ" - Now that is SO Funny.David Hiscock has for 25 years been the bastion of girly cheesy handbag pop dance.Barry Harris "that American DJ" Played boring plodding non descript tribal house mostly with no vocals.These two DJ's couldnt be futher apart in there music styles.Gavan Bright is a DJ that loves to play hard house and usually does but peridically out of the blue will pop in some completely left field piece of cheese or pop (in his set at MG2000 he played between 2 trance tracks "Our Lips Are Sealed" -1980 - by the GoGo's).Mark Alsop like to play trance but is also too fond of playing Anthems within his sets.The much maligned "Soiux Spears" will definitely be the closest the the banging sound that was in Dome last Saturday (that still justify her playing the party in my opinion).The 2nd hall at Pride (Dome) have 3 DJ's who all play the same sort of stuff - deep dark sexy garage stuff (very similar to the Hordern at sleaze)>the 3rd space/tent have 3 dj's who have all been selected because they have experience as Video Jockeys - so that means you can expect lots of pop music and accompanying video clips on a big screen.
I hope that summarises the potential musical expectations for December 31......Enjoy !
The Music Maker - Mon Nov 13 19:49:59 2000

Following some discussion regarding the selection of DJs for the "Pagan Night" new year's eve party, the board of sydney Pride Centre released the following statement: "Thank you to those people who have taken the time to express their opinions about the DJ selection for this year’s New Year’s Eve Party. The majority have been most favourable, however, there appears to be a vocal minority who are not happy. The position of the Board of Sydney PRIDE Centre on this matter is as follows: Sioux Spears and Kate Monroe are professional DJs and have also volunteered many hundreds of hours of their time to the Centre in their capacity as directors. It is our view that involvement with PRIDE does not automatically disqualify a person from applying for a position. Where there is a Potential conflict of interest it is our policy to do the following: 1. Declare that a potential conflict of interest exists 2. Ensure that the person involved takes no part in the final decision 3. Ensure that selections are made on merit This year the selection was carried out by a committee consisting of 2 board members, the party Artistic Director, and an outside independent consultant. Tapes were marked A, B, C, etc so that the selection panel did not know the names of the DJs during the selection process. A similar process was used last year. We are satisfied that no conflict of interest has occurred and we believe we have acted with propriety in the appointment of the DJs It is disappointing to us that people have chosen to criticise the process of DJ selection without making any attempt to ascertain just what that process was. It is also disappointing to us that one or two of the unsuccessful DJs have taken to trying to stir up a controversy. We have every confidence that the DJs selected will deliver the goods on the night and help make “Pagan Night” a truly memorable event. Neale Craker Company Secretary Sydney Pride Centre On behalf of the Board After reading the above we should all buy tickest for Home's party@Bondi. 15000 tickets on sale
Good army of gay women and men - Mon Nov 13 21:02:58 2000

and bisexual and transgendered people
this ain't Mg you know. - Mon Nov 13 22:15:33 2000

Home @ Bondi??????????? u must be joking??????????? 15,000 straight, Brit backpackers!!!!!!!!!!! Last year Bondi Beach was cold wet and miserable.
Mon Nov 13 23:41:38 2000

Home @ Bondi? Yes. u must be joking? No 15,000 straight, Brit backpackers Wrong again
Tue Nov 14 0:05:36 2000

Cold, wet and miserable.
Tue Nov 14 8:44:03 2000

Many thanks !@#$%^ and The Music Maker. I hope Sioux does play some hard house. The US DJ bought the place down so much I went home before the 3rd DJ came on. Never understand why around 4/5am they want to slow the pace, as if we've taken things that slow us down ! Can understand that happening close to 8am but after reading all the post realise it wasn't me or the goodies. Trust Sioux/Mark wont be doing that. Looking forward to NYE. Thanks for letter Pride, I accept the explanation although some wont. Time to move.
Appreciate it - Tue Nov 14 9:08:59 2000

It appears that people don't believe the Pride statement. What sort of proof do you need?
Tue Nov 14 10:11:01 2000

The Pride "explaination" for the use of the word to me (in my opinion) appears to be a whipped up cover up excuse.I know 3 people who wrote complaint emails to Pride and they all got a reply exactly the same - word for word.Pride saying that there is "a potential conflict of interest" is just that - A conflict of interest.There are no degrees of "conflict of interest" , it either is or it isnt.In this case it clearly is,and Pride need to pull there big fat heads in and bow acknowledge that they are clearly in the wrong
A>D - Tue Nov 14 13:06:46 2000

Never underestimate the capacity of organisations to find retro-active reasons as to why things happened.
Tue Nov 14 13:16:44 2000

Pride is just a corpse in search of a cause of death these days. Have mercy.
Devil's Felch - Tue Nov 14 13:55:10 2000

Dear Sydney I'm a boy from Melbourne who logged onto to this page to find out what's happening. Never before have I read such a load of crap, and I'm referring specifically to those blah blahing about pride nye. What kills me is that those making the allegations don't even have the decency to sign their names - probably because its the same person writing over and over (check the grammar and the style of writing and its more than obvious that some insecure slob who didn't get a shift deciding to reak havoc on this party). I will never go to this site again as it is nothing more than losers on their soap boxes who obviously don't have a life (or a decent f#!k). Can anyone tell me if there is a decent website where I can actually find out about music, night clubs, events etc?
Andrew Mcgregor - Tue Nov 14 14:58:43 2000

Personal abuse deleted.

Sleaze was boring! it lacked atmosphere, decent music and imaginative lighting, the music in the Dome was ok, but the only thing which had anything to do with the theme "Sleaze 2000 Degress" was the heat in the dome, way too hot. I hope that MG2001 is an improvement on this, especially for the money they're asking next year.
Get it together MG. - Tue Nov 14 15:49:17 2000

Thanks Jo Jo - Frisky was great. That first show was awesome and Tina - well, what do you say. Lights, Lasers, Sound and your set (especially) blew us all away. Crowd was just the right size for a comfortable night after Sleaze and crowded daytime recoveries. Keep up the standard.
Tue Nov 14 15:52:17 2000

Oh yes, and what about the awesome response from the 800+ people in the main room when Jo Jo played Perfect Day - up your bums you silly people on this board. Classics still work - if worked by a music master!
Tue Nov 14 15:54:57 2000

oh dear jojo played perfect day again.
Tue Nov 14 15:58:19 2000
Personal abuse deleted.

í'd like to congratulate Mardi Gras for a truly tragic party. for the $100 and something i paid - what a rip off. looking forward to nye and to hearing some decent bloody music.
bored - Tue Nov 14 16:40:31 2000

Well said, Andrew McGregor.Here, here.
Lou Simon - Tue Nov 14 17:54:43 2000

Personal abuse deleted.

You should get a decent dealer Bored. What has happened to Jojo's army? Has the Fantabulous Frisky Formula Finally Flopped?
Tue Nov 14 20:13:29 2000

I find it funny how "Andrew McGregor" (not his real name) can say "i'm not coming back to this board" and then proceeds to ask where he can find a better board - on the same board!!!!! how will he get an answer to his question? come back to the board? but he said he wouldn't! and even if he did get an answer how could he be sure that the advice was good? (considering that we're all full of crap)
on my soap box and proud! - Tue Nov 14 20:17:54 2000

hehehehehe
Tue Nov 14 20:19:17 2000

To: "A>D - Tue Nov 14 13:06:46 2000" - isn't that interseting, so you know the three people who wrote to pride, and you are all comparing pride's response letters. So much for "concerned independent partygoers"! Looks like there's an orchestrated campaign going on. I wonder who is playing this game?
Damon Harold - Tue Nov 14 21:43:03 2000

Dear Damon Harold. I couldn't agree with you more. Sounds like the "concerned independent partygoers" are the ones with the "conflict of interest". For info on who orchestrated the campaign, I'd ask amoungst the so called "sydney dj fraternity".
independent partygoers, my arse. - Wed Nov 15 8:51:00 2000

To on my soap box and proud - You are so full of it.
Wed Nov 15 8:52:43 2000

I'm glad to say that this Frisky was even better than the one after the Olympics. Production was up to its usual excellent standard. But the music was quite amazing. JoJo played so much new music, yet managed to keep a couple of familiar songs in there and the crowd went with him. The party was going off to songs that I've never heard before. And after all that fun, Luke pulled out the big ones and played one of the best sets I've heard him play. Wow! What a night. Thanks for a fantastic night to all who contributed to it.
Wed Nov 15 10:36:11 2000

Tue Nov 14 15:58:19 2000 - direct personal abuse. Are you going to edit that one Larry?
Wed Nov 15 11:16:22 2000
There is an email address at the top of the page if you wish to address your comments to me personally. - Panther

Hmmm. The Frisky damage control propaganda machine swings into action yet again.
Wed Nov 15 11:25:47 2000
This is the opinion of the poster.

Gee I hope Hordern music for NYE will be along the lines of Dome at Sleaze. It will go off. Also hope they take note of how bad the US DJ was and how he bought the party down. If you know what CD's he played, them throw them out........
Chris - Wed Nov 15 11:30:32 2000

Yeah, there's no other propoganda happening here. not! Hmmm. You are too funny for words. ;-)
Wed Nov 15 13:11:44 2000

Ludicrous presumptions deleted.

i just love how people can come to these ludicrous presumptions
Wed Nov 15 13:28:57 2000

Still recovering from a great weekend. Either that or they've finally realised there's no point coming here because nothing good comes from it. It's clear that this board is no longer about the parties...but the politics. Honestly do you think party boys could be bothered with this sort of stuff?

Of course this commment will just disappear into the background...of constant bitching that we know and love pinkboard for. So very predictable.
Wed Nov 15 13:34:56 2000

i remember this great dance track from the 80's called "The politics of Dancing" by a group called Reflex.
HA-HA - Wed Nov 15 13:47:05 2000

When you take a look back...it's not just the Frisky boys who don't bother with this place anymore, it the Hey Homo Boys, the Ice Boys and the whoever else boys.

Anyone who had a good time on the weekend is certainly not going to come here to be told why they are mistaken and that they

really

had a bad time, by a bunch of people who are so past it they have no idea.
Wed Nov 15 13:59:10 2000

How was Grunt?
JGT - Wed Nov 15 14:05:23 2000

Homo Eclectus..thank's once again for a gorgeous, sexy affair. Always a pleasure recovering with family
craig ingrey - Wed Nov 15 14:34:25 2000

RIP Frisky. Died 13 November 2000 from laser radiation-related illness and ignoring medical advice. A small memorial service will be held at The Metro on 1 January 2001. The Frisky Fan Club asks that fans not send flowers, to instead send donations to Gay Games and the Rights Lobby, whose budgets failed to meet expectations this month. Please bring warm clothing as the venue tends to be cold when not full.
Well Hello Friskians! - Wed Nov 15 15:11:30 2000

Winter Party Schedule. South Beach Miami March 8-12 2001. Benefitting Dade Human Rights Foundation, a not-for-profit foundation serving the needs of the Gay, Lesbian, Bisexual, & Transgendered Community. Thursday Noche Tropical, DJ Monty Q Shadow Lounge, 1439 Washington Ave, South Beach. Friday Tropical Fever, DJ Manny Lehman Level, 1235 Washington Ave, South Beach. Saturday Communion, DJ tba location tba. Tropical Heat, DJ Abel Salvation, 1771 West Ave, South Beach. Sunday The Winter Party®, DJs Warren Gluck & Tracy Young The Beach at 14th St, South Beach. Divinity, DJ Victor Calderone Crobar, 1445 Washington Ave, South Beach. Monday Ritual, DJ Mark Anthony ClubSpace, 142 NE 11th St, Miami. 3rd Annual DJ Showcase, DJs tba location tba.
Wed Nov 15 15:34:44 2000

After the performance of Barry Harris on Saturday night would A N Y Sydneysider be game enough to listen to an American DJ ever again **PLease Pass Go and Don Not Collect $200**
Wed Nov 15 17:36:04 2000

*****ju ju space jazz***** L.I.V.E @ The Metro *****plus Itchee & Scrathee (wow! gay electronica at its finest!) Seymour Butz (woof) Multiball, prop, The Coven, DJ Gemma, Sub Bass Snarl & more. only $14! yes! (no punter gets shafted by this promoter!) This friday 17th. Tix @ fish stores.
Wed Nov 15 17:37:43 2000

Who's Don?
Wed Nov 15 17:39:35 2000

Don Knotts from Knotts Landing. Is always collecting all that money.
Wed Nov 15 18:29:23 2000

I'm sure if someone had called a more litigious member of our community a "wanker" here it would have been removed quite swiftly. Love that impartiality.
Wed Nov 15 18:32:26 2000

Sticks and stones may break my bones but whips and chains excite me.
Wed Nov 15 18:41:46 2000

Well Hello Friskians By the sound of it you didn't enjoy yourself at Frisky. I take it this means that you have gone to your last Frisky and will now f*ck off and leave Frisky alone - and leave us partygoers to enjoy ourselves without your negativity. Excellent choice! cya!
Wed Nov 15 19:57:46 2000

Wednesday evening coming down
Wed Nov 15 20:57:59 2000

some friends of mine whom are long term Frisky fans have even said that the party has become very stale. jojo plays an [almost] identical set for each party and the dj's he hires are not known for their musical imagination [leal possibly may be excluded from this] and how many times has he had tina cousins perform ? it's stuck in a loop. loop. loop. loop. loop. loop. loop. loop
Guess who, dont sue ! - Wed Nov 15 22:56:45 2000

Frisky Groundhog Day?
Wed Nov 15 23:25:26 2000

One of my friend's cousins brothers has a friend who knows someone who said he thinks your friends might be right.

Get a grip!!

If your friends or you had actually been at the past two parties you'd know that JoJo has played a stack of new music. fact! At the last party he played probably only five or six tracks that he's ever played before. And yet the crowd still went off.

As for Tina, I believe she has performed at Frisky three times. Each time to a great reception by the crowd. Of course that wouldn't be as interesting to repeat in a forum like this would it?

This misinformed line of attack is very uncreative, obvious, transparent, boring and did I mention factually inaccurate?? loop.loop.loop.loop

Wed Nov 15 23:51:55 2000

If you don't like it, don't go. Looks like the people who do go to Frisky like it a lot. Enough to argue til they're blue in the face. The part I'm not quite sure about is why the people who argue against it will do so equally as hard. What could the possibly have to gain?
Wed Nov 15 23:56:54 2000

Are we done now with our attacks and counter-tantrums now kiddies? Next.
Thu Nov 16 0:00:30 2000

I actually can't stand most of Tina Cousins music (not a big fan of euro-dance) but I was totally impressed by her as a singer and a performer at Sleaze. Thats a big voice for a white girl, and while Jocelyn Brown, Ultra-nate and Adeva have nothing to worry about, she is a considerably larger talent than i ever gave her credit for...
diva lover - Thu Nov 16 1:17:58 2000

Winter Party Schedule. South Beach Miami is this a joke?
Thu Nov 16 2:22:15 2000

How about those people who hate Frisky actually tell us why you hate it so much. If you dislike something you avoid it. If you hate something then you are active about it. Hate has to be triggered by something traumatic. How about telling us what this is.
Panther - Thu Nov 16 9:38:38 2000

Panther, one of the main negative contributors here is a DJ that can get damn all work due to his open negativity and nastiness - we have watched his form writing for some time and compared it to the style of personally sent emails. One other is a promoter who likes to shit-stir but has good intentions (we think). They are known, they are excluded, they are irrelevant in the big picture. Oh yes, and they don't go to Frisky very often!
Deep throat - Thu Nov 16 10:52:01 2000
This is the opinion of the poster.

Hot news from the UK ! Due out any week now,the new 2000 remix of "Perfect Day" by Indigo !
This is not a joke ! It is Fact !
A new remix for JoJo and all Indigo lovers to play - released in UK late Nov ! - Thu Nov 16 11:06:51 2000

A question to lighting/laser operators/designers, if they read this board or perhaps to promoters of Frisky and ICE. What is with the excessive use of lasers???? I was at Frisky for part of the night and all I saw was lasers, yes there were other lights but the majority of it was laser. My best friend was at ICE, I didnt make it there due to meetig a nice young lad. When I spoke to him this week to discuss our weekend activites we both commented on how much laser work is being done. Is it just us or does it get boring after a while??? I mean when the big parties use them they seem to be on for a while them off for a bit whilst they do lighting stuff, or it comes on for certain tracks. The same went for Home when we used to go and now ARQ. Is it the operators or the promoters?? Seroisluy there is more to parties than lasers.
Sore eyes! - Thu Nov 16 11:14:11 2000

It's so stupid to hear bitchings about Frisky every time it's on. If you don't like the party then I assume you don't go otherwise you're an idiot. If you didn't go then you have no rights to comment on how bad it was this time. So otherwise don't post about it at all or sign your name as 'idiot'. Frisky is something that a lot of people enjoy and that is consistently a great night out guaranteed. It's always packed and everyone who goes has a great time. If it's not your thing then why bother with it?
Party Boy who didn't get to go to Frisky this time but wishes he did! - Thu Nov 16 11:17:34 2000

While I love the lasers at the parties, I would like to see more work done with lights. However I wouldn't like to see lasers deleted. I think the thing that lasers have over lights is their "halluncinogenic" properties. With lasers you can start to "see things" and that doesn't happen as much with lights.
Thu Nov 16 11:31:44 2000

Anyone headed to Ruby Party 2 Friday week at Icebox? From the flyer - "uplifting progressive and euphoric hi-nrg, house and trance". A pretty broad description. From my experience of the music - it's fun. Luke is playing - and I'm not sure who else.
Thu Nov 16 11:37:03 2000

And whats wrong with negative contributors. Love it. Go Bitch Go!
Thu Nov 16 12:39:16 2000

ok, for what it is worth...I'm sure I'll be shot down in flames anyway..
I've been going to Frisky regularly for the past year (late starter I know) so I think that qualifies me to comment on last weekend's party.
I feel quite certain that the above postings regarding JoJo playing new music are correct - I commented on the night to a friend that there was alot of music I hadn't heard at Frisky before. Perhaps JoJo was responding to the attacks launched after the last party. Yes, he played Perfect Day. It's not my thing (roll eyes), but it got a big cheer and there were so many people smiling with enjoyment, or at least amusement!
The crowd numbers did seem down on usual, but there was so many party choices on the night, and it is also exam season for many and no public/uni/school holiday. I could have sworn there were people buying tickets at the door - I did hear someone asking for tickets at the door who was directed to come inside and speak with a girl at the downstairs desk (don't know her name but one of the Frisky staffers)..and there were a few people huddled around. There was certainly a fairly large proportion of gorgeous partyboys who were missing in action. I did notice alot of Hey Homo flyers plastered over cars at Sleaze, so they were clearly still looking to sell more, and at almost a third the price of Frisky (how was it? anyone, anyone?).
Tina Cousins' performance at Frisky was sooo much better than Sleaze and the crowd really loved it. That said, perhaps it's time for a new face.
The next cute guy that gives me a Chupa-chup can help pay for the resulting dental cavities..Thanks guys!}:>
Really enjoyed Luke Leal's set - had the time of my life dancing with some room to move! I was disappointed when it came to an end and I had to deal with the 'very Monday' outside world.
I'll still be going to the next one (NY recovery?) but just hope some of those regulars return..want more eye candy to cruise and have fun with!
kxr - Thu Nov 16 13:39:42 2000

Sharin Magoodies can you email me on boynxdor@speednet.com.au I gotta ask you something. (mmmmmm this will be a big mystery to the rest of you :)
BND - Thu Nov 16 14:24:08 2000

Sore eyes. A great question re the use of lasers. At Frisky and ICE, the use of lasers is a combination of the requirements of the promoters and the operators. At ARQ and Home, it is totally up to the operators. Brad Wright for example prefers to use lights with good programming and uses lasers for additional effect. Steven Hales on the other hand likes to use lasers almost exclusively. Allan Parkinson uses a different mix but relies very heavily on lasers. Some operators may disagree, but it is impossible to operate both lasers and lights effectively simultaneously. Frisky and ICE use seperate operators for lighting and lasers, who are in constant contact and work as a lighting team. Have to agree that the over-use of lasers can get boring after a while, but that depends greatly on the ability of the operator. With poor lighting design, programming and operation, they can totally overwhelm traditional lighting to a point where it becomes redundant, and that can be boring. On the weekend, ICE had a quite complicated lighting and laser run sheet which ran afoul when a newly installed lighting computer crashed for the first 1 1/2 hours of the party, leaving them to rely heavily on the lasers. Luckily noone seemed to notice or care. Australia is one of very few countries they current allows lasers to interect with the crowd, and quality lasers are rare interstate, only just starting to be used regularly in Melbourne, so Sydney visitors are totally blown away when they see them. I the end, it is a matter of personal preference - some people hate them,some love them, but for me, a good laser operator can create an experience akin to being spoken to by God! The promoters like your feedback and definitely take it on board. Perhaps a little less reliance on lasers in future for both those parties?
Mara Devlin - Thu Nov 16 14:25:51 2000

you just keep me hanging on, you just keep me haaaaangin ooon
Thu Nov 16 15:07:16 2000

Do you love Australia or do you love Australians ?
Thu Nov 16 15:26:25 2000

Does anyone know when Frisky's Melbourne gig will be?
Crashed - Thu Nov 16 16:47:52 2000

Doesn't Melbourne already have it's own recovery parties called Magnitude? I think you'll need to come to Sydney for Frisky.
Thu Nov 16 18:44:45 2000

Deep Throat - to think that there are only two people writing about Frisky is burying your head in the sand. To accuse another promoter of attacking Frisky with "vile intent" (your words from last month) is paranoia. To say there isn't a problem when so many people have spoken with their feet is overly proud. The answers to your problems are on these walls if you look hard enough.
Thu Nov 16 19:40:55 2000

Aren't you clever.
Thu Nov 16 20:56:22 2000

Funny that nobody has answered Panther's question.
Thu Nov 16 20:57:14 2000

So how was Ice?
Thu Nov 16 21:02:59 2000

Not only is Frisky doing Melbourne.They are also doing Perth, Brisbane, Adelaide, Launceston and Cairns.....Fancy that.
Thu Nov 16 21:16:45 2000

"so many people have spoken with their feet" would that be 1 person or possibly 2....hum....let be guess... one, thinks me.
Thu Nov 16 21:31:19 2000

Frisky proudly presents "Frisky does Rooty Hill RsL" this saturday night !!!
Thu Nov 16 21:38:26 2000

There's a problem?

The answer to nobody's problems is on these walls.

There's grief perhaps...but not answers. Get over yourself.
Thu Nov 16 21:39:09 2000

Rooty Hill! Fabulous. Gotta get there. Can I wear my stubbies with long socks with a nice a hypercolor t-shirt? Anyone want to carpool?
Thu Nov 16 21:44:16 2000

"vile intent" was not Deep Throat's comment last month. Are you making all this stuff on the fly? Get it right next time. Thanks for playing.
Thu Nov 16 22:01:05 2000

5 days after Sleaze Ball and here we go again.
SSO 16/11/00
DJ Submissions for Mardi Gras 2001 due in by 5/1/2001
Here we go again !
Thu Nov 16 22:23:43 2000

i am sick to death of people taking the great occasion of a party and using every way they know to bring it down - frisky sleaze pride whoever. to answer panthers question, the reason anyone would hate a party is that they are incapable of creating one themselves or they have failed in the past. there are some sustained attacks going on here and it doesn't matter which party which month. its pretty nasty stuff. there must be a lot of incompetence and low self esteem out there.
Thu Nov 16 22:26:47 2000

Is there a gay/ gay friendly/ gay tolerant/ gay prepared-to-put-up-with venue playing hip-hop music in this picturesque but musically white ass town ? Trance, euro, happy and hard are all fast and fine but what *uck beat y'all got ?
Shaft - Thu Nov 16 22:32:33 2000

Let's hope they get the music right for MG. It's all about the music. Lights lasers blah blah. If the music sux the party sux.
Thu Nov 16 22:33:34 2000

So nobody's game to comment in Ice. Now doesn't that speak volumes. Nice forum ya got here. Nobody wants to enter into any discussion on this wall about a great party they attended. (It was great by the way.) My guess is that they don't want their fun trampled on. Best to live with the happy memories than share it with a bunch of bitter has-beens and watch them go at it like demented snakes.
Thu Nov 16 22:40:23 2000

Mara Devlin. Thanx. I agree, I dont want to see the lasers go juts more varirty between them and the lights, I have had some amazing "peaks" from lasers however, one cannont "peak" the entire party.
Thanx. Sore Eyes ;) - Thu Nov 16 23:34:47 2000

Go Mara, thought I'd get a bite. Heard nothing but excellent comments about Ice and Frisky - even Home seemed to pull off a reasonable night. Arq had the stars, so that helped we guess - what was Human Nature like et al?
The Washington Post - Fri Nov 17 11:57:12 2000

Frisky proudly presents "Frisky does Rooty Hill RsL" this saturday night !!! Thu Nov 16 21:38:26 2000 What's that about? Obviously someone who is jealous of Frisky's long successful history!
Fri Nov 17 13:53:21 2000

Frisky was awesome as usual! The 130am show was simply amazing. JoJo and his team should be proud of the spectacular fund raiser they put on for 2002. All of you who try to put down Frisky need to get professional medical help. JoJo and his team do nothing but provide Fabulous parties and support to the Rights Lobby, & 2002. Metro even gives a portion of the Coat Check to BGF! on Frisky nights. If you don't like Frisky just go somewhere else!!!!
Just a Party boy! - Fri Nov 17 13:59:49 2000

To answer the the how was Ice question. I thought it was great. Hope I am not shot down for that thought. The DJ line up managed to keep me up and on the dance floor all night. Laser usuage was high but great. Didn't notice the system failure during the first 1 1/2hrs (mind you that doesn't say much). As usual the crowd was there for fun and fun was had or seemed to be had by most there. To the leather man I encountered ... thankyou I wont forget the night in a hurry. The Bay 33 venue seemed to work really well to, no walk through the cross at 8.00am, now that has to be good. One word of warning for anyone going to the venue, watch out for the first step onto the bottom dance floor ... it is a dowsy...
just come down - Fri Nov 17 14:15:59 2000

Is Frisky really touring?
Fri Nov 17 15:12:01 2000

Sorry forgot to mention Tina Cousins in my last post. Whether you like her music or not one thing for sure, She was fabulous at Sleaze and as usual at Frisky! She was out on the dancefloor after her show during Luke's set at Frisky too. Oh and can anyone tell me who the cute English guy was with her (guess it was her b.f. or manager?)
Just a Party boy! - Fri Nov 17 15:13:20 2000

At ARQ on Monday morning there was talk that Frisky chose to have Gay Games as a beneficiary for Sunday's party because JoJo knew it wasn't going to make any money, yet he was still able to get marketing value by saying it was a 100% fundraiser. Frisky team - can you please put an ad in the papers like the Harbour Party did to show how much you raised for Gay Games? Then we can tell the rumour mongers to shut up!
Frisky Fan Forever! - Fri Nov 17 15:31:38 2000

Ok, so back to the music... for NYE (Pride) what type of music do WE want to hear?
Fri Nov 17 15:52:24 2000

the guy with tina cousins was her manager and yes he is sooooo gorgeous. i saw him in the week leading up to frisky and nearly fell over from all my drool! and that deep set english accent...
Shaerin Magoodies - Fri Nov 17 16:00:59 2000

i know what sort of music "I" want to hear at Pride but whats the point of posting it on here ?
Fri Nov 17 16:24:30 2000

Frisky touring - I think it's a joke Joyce.
Fri Nov 17 19:08:03 2000

Frisky Fan Forever: I don't think JoJo publicising the amounts he has given to 2002 and GLRL will have any effect on whether the public think he picked a slow night or not - shame really. My guess is he didn't have the intention you suggest. But that's just my opinion.
Fri Nov 17 19:32:00 2000

Fri Nov 17 16:24:30 2000 Whats the point you ask? I know that some of the DJ's playing @ Pride NYE, read this wall. You might get what your looking for!
fairy godmother - Fri Nov 17 19:32:59 2000

Didn't anyone who reads this wall go to Hey Homo? Still waiting for a comment...it would seem most people enjoyed Frisky and Ice. Don't care about Arq - ended up there after Frisky and it was pretty ugly but packed as usual.
I hope everyone is heading out this weekend. I want more fun! hehehehe..
kxr - Fri Nov 17 19:43:42 2000

What's up with Pride this year? Are the organisers aware that people actually listen to the music that is being played or do they think we won't notice their half-priced d.j's and the crap they (will) spin! Let's pray the guy's from Grunt put on another shit hot alternative. It's about time someone got it right, and being a Grunt attendee I can vouch that they definatley have. Thicker, harder, faster, that's all I can say! It's time to piss off the fluff and put some balls back into the scene!
sick of this shit! - Fri Nov 17 21:10:47 2000

Personal abuse deleted.

So, i can take it from the complete lack of response that hip-hop music is like the cultural nigger in this honky town? Can I get a beat ? You well groomed white boys love to argue the minutae of your girly tunes and the obedient djs who play them but is there a non-euro room in town? Or, is it all just this vanilla handbag crap? Fair enough, just seems a little dickless from where i dance...
Shaft - Fri Nov 17 22:31:45 2000

Frisky Fan - it's a difficult issue to address. I'm willing to stand corrected, but I don't see any way of proving intent one way or the other. On occasions such as this we go on historical data. It might help to remind the people you're talking with to look at Frisky's past record supporting community groups (Gay Games, The Lobby) to see how they feel about this one.
Fri Nov 17 23:24:38 2000

Shaft- There I thought I was all cutting edge and gay and happening - and now I have it pointed out all too clearly that I'm just wickedly homogeneously vanilla. Along with everyone else reading this wall. :-) What a crackup. It's funny how you can get caught up in your own supposed fabulousness. :-) Good luck finding your music. I honestly have no idea where to even start. If you do find anywhere, let us know. Maybe there's room for a new night at a new club somewhere in Sydney.
Fri Nov 17 23:36:38 2000

Frisky Fan Forever:- It's a bit of a low blow on the part of the folks you're speaking with - to be mean to someone who has given our community so much - and not just $$. But in terms of $$ I think you'd go a long way to find another business that gives such a high percentage of its turnover to community groups. For instance, I don't see other commercial parties or clubs handing over $4.00 per entry directly to community groups every time they open. - But in this case I think the best you could do is tell the stirrers to be decent for a minute, stop being so cynical and take a look at Frisky's track record. And remember, the people who run our parties - commercial and community - truly are trying their hardest. Nobody wants to f*ck it up - that's not the aim of he game.
Sat Nov 18 0:21:51 2000

Ruby Party 2 - Friday 24th November - 11pm till late - Icebox, 2 Kellet St. Kings Cross. DJs Lexie Bradfield and Stephen Allkins to warm you up, and Luke Leal from 1:30am to take you on a hi-nrg odyssey of progressive, uplifting and euphoric house and trance. Tickets $10 pre-sale from One Stop Dee Jay Darlinghurst & SO Music Newtown.
Amf... - Sat Nov 18 0:47:33 2000

Interesting tactics. If you can't fault the party go after something else. Simple really.
Sat Nov 18 9:19:50 2000

Sick of this shit - I respect and understand the fact that you want hard, fast etc etc to have a good time. That's fine. But understand that not everybody wants that and it is NYE and for some us yes, that means a bit of fluff, something not too hardcore. There are a range of events on that I think can cater to lots of different needs. I think talking about diversity is great, but let's not slag and bitch to do this OK?
Let's try to keep it nice - Sat Nov 18 14:16:16 2000

kxr- you missed out. Hey Homo cranked. I was glad to go back to Home as it always seems like an adventure. Alex blew the roof off and Sveta had the silver room sweating!
Sat Nov 18 15:51:46 2000

kxr did not miss out, but I'm glad to hear Alex and Sveta went off and I've been told Shaerin Magoodies isn't quiet right the English guy with Tina is her b.f. & tour manager. I hope Greg Boladian continues to play like he played at Sleaze, a really up & happy set, shouldn't that be what it's about!!! Looking forward to a Fabulous Summer Party Season, New Year's, Fire works, then Pride for some big Party fun. Then off to Frisky on New Year's Day for I'm sure another awesome Frisky!!! Also could people try and put some positive constructive comments on here. Like compliment a DJ you like, or a party you like. Don't rain on other people's parades so to speak... It's not good Karma! ; )
Just a Party boy! - Sat Nov 18 23:23:43 2000

Wow..! Can't believe how spoilt some of you are... Frisky was fantastic, the music was great (*especially* 'Perfect Day' hehe), and the crowd was friendly, the lights amazing, and the overall buzz excellent. It was, excuse the turn of phrase, teh perfect way to end a great weekend. :) Thanks to the organisers and the crowd.
Jeremy (NZ) - Sun Nov 19 10:15:19 2000

Baaaa !
Mutton - Sun Nov 19 13:07:30 2000

Ruby Party 2 @ Icebox on Fri 24 Nov might be worth a look?? Anyone going?
Another DFF - Sun Nov 19 14:54:10 2000

Sat Nov 18 15:51:46 2000 - thanks for the Hey Homo comment....I've heard a couple of good things about it now, particularly about the music. What time did they close? Previous comments on the wall indicated an early finish (like 5am)
I really like 'home' as a venue but the last party I went to there (can't recall if it was a one-off Hey Homo or a mardi gras recovery?) the security was over the top - seemed like they may be getting some pressure on their licence to keep everything very clean and drug-free. To top that off it they were having trouble filling (and holding the crowd) and had to open the doors to those keen to sample the 'home' pleasures, changing the dynamic to be a very straight crowd.
Hopefully the next Hey Homo - presuming there is one - does not clash with Frisky so I can give it another chance...
kxr - Sun Nov 19 20:28:55 2000

Does anyone know when Frisky's next gig will be?
Melbourne boy sick of Melbourne parties. - Sun Nov 19 20:40:03 2000

Melbourne boy sick of Melbourne parties. - Sun Nov 19 20:40:03 2000 - Try Monday night 1/1/2001 (and yes Tuesday is a working day)
Sun Nov 19 21:08:25 2000

Fri/23:26 Thanks bud, for yr good wishes in my quest for queerass hip-hop. I been down with the str8homies at da Bra (marou-Bra) and while they m/f*cking scrumptious to eyeball sometimes a brother wants more than eyecandy to go with them baddest beats! UK brother told me arq downstairs plays hip-hop-lite on Sunday nite, so i be there now, checkin it...
Shaft - Sun Nov 19 23:53:32 2000

* giggles while picturing the look on Shafts face when he hears the music at Arq on a sunday night *
Roxanne Shante - Mon Nov 20 10:55:01 2000

im more than giggling about shafts post and his quest for hip hop music at arq,I'm actually shitting myself in fits of laughter !
Mon Nov 20 11:24:43 2000

Deciding on which ticket to buy for New Years Eve. We loved music in Dome for Sleaze so can anyone point us in the right direction which party will have similiar style music ? Will Pride ?
Hard House - Mon Nov 20 11:24:55 2000

Hard House - Mon Nov 20 11:24:55 2000 Why dont you ring Pride Centre and ask them ? Im sure they wont have a clue (just like their DJ selections)
Meowwww - Mon Nov 20 11:58:07 2000

Well even though most of the Pride DJ's have been around for more than a decade I am "hoping" they wont be playing music from that long ago. Someone said Sue Spears is fairly hi-nrg/hard house/no cheese so buying tickets on that rumour.
But this will be the last time if they disappoint again - Mon Nov 20 13:28:42 2000

Dear Hard House - also hoping Hordern will be hard house. Dome seems to have been popular all night at Sleaze with 1st and 3rd DJ's best in RHI. Hope Pride realise these seem to be the 2 most popular styles favoured by the party crowd.
Fingers crossed - Mon Nov 20 13:32:42 2000

I feel like I am dreaming - and it's a very pleasant dream. The positive reaction on these walls to the music played in the Dome has been fantastic (thanks Glen Horder however please do something about the heat). I have never seen so many positive postings about hard house and trance. Now the "masses" are pleading for it at Pride, which even I might go to if I think that we'll hear that sound in the Hordern (Gavan? Sioux? Mark?). Thanks to everyone - promoters, DJs, punters and the MG party commitee - who has helped Sydney's queer clubbing/party scene reach this point. Now my hope is that we can have somewhere to go on a regular basis that'll give us this sound (sorry, but I hate Arq as a venue).
Nat - Mon Nov 20 13:42:08 2000

Oh for Chrissake give it a rest with the pride dj's already. If you want input into the party, use a telephone, hop on a committee and have your feedback channelled in a constructive way. Or is that a little too complicated for you? Might mean you to do some work for the community instead of bitching and moaning.
Over it - Mon Nov 20 13:54:12 2000

Do what i'm doing,head to Tropical Fruits at Byron Bay just for something different a little different!
over it and doing something about it! - Mon Nov 20 15:04:06 2000

I would love to but I can't justify the cost of accommodation and airfares in Byron at that time of year.
Mon Nov 20 15:15:11 2000

Hip hop? Oh muddf*kka muddaf*kka muddaf*kka. yeah way cool bro. icy
Mon Nov 20 16:54:43 2000

Over it - When issues are published here they do get back to the party committees and the promoters. I agree that calling the appropriate people can be more effective. I also urge people to make constructive criticism, rather than just saying something is bad or wrong without a suggestion of how to make it better.
Pantehr - Mon Nov 20 19:39:06 2000

Dear Over it - comments hear do get to the various boards. Also have your tried ringing some of these boards ? not all of us can stay on hold for so long or keep dialing cause all you get is a busy tone. The few times I have rung the people on the other end couldn't give a hoot about complaints/suggestions.
Not over it - Tue Nov 21 8:19:55 2000

Can anyone suggest a site to visit to find info on 'Tropical Fruits'? Who organisers this party and do they even have a site?Any help would be much appreciated.
Fruity NY's.... - Tue Nov 21 9:25:46 2000

Fruity NY's.... - Look on Pinkboard's Community Noticeboard.
Panther - Tue Nov 21 9:29:20 2000

bombed back at 111 regent st for another detonation of techno mayhem on Friday, Dec 1. dj terrorists are mandy rollins, thao and mark murphy. ten bucks on the door. 10pm-4am. first friday of every month. the end is queer.
Tue Nov 21 11:05:01 2000

I'd like to see Shafts shaft..............
Luvthemjiggaboos - Tue Nov 21 13:56:57 2000

eww i wouldnt :(
Tue Nov 21 18:03:42 2000

"Blue" at the Lizard Lounge this Thursday. Starring Alex Taylor, Bill Morley and David Smith. Co-Starring House Diva Bertha, Bongo Boy Tony and The Blue Unicorn. This weeks episode features Porno Funk and Blue House, 10pm to late
Wed Nov 22 0:29:23 2000

juju space jazz rule the ionosphere! thanks to the kookykids for a stunner of a gig. $14 for 4 bands and 4 djs. huge production, freaky shows and a full house. the metro swung out!
Wed Nov 22 14:04:13 2000

Seems UK brother knows more bout queerass hiphop in sydtown than you laughing folks (Mon 10:55, 11:24) do. He said i find 'hiphop-lite sun nite d/stairs Arq'. Sure nuff it was that aerobic vanilla euro y'all seem so fond of Upstairs and there were some fine lookin bodies up there lovin it for all its worth but that music just reminds me of gym classses w skinny girls wavin they arms 'bout. Makes me tired just listenin. But d'stairs an asian bro name T was gettin all black n dirty n *uckbeat soulful with a whole mess a hiphop. Sure it was lite I wasna expecting no hardcore turntablist gangsta mc. Brother plays cds fer crissake.But there was lil kim, Guru, Bass allstars, S&P, Playa Pancho, NbN, Edward j an a righteous amount of def sounds. Made for a dirty ol shake. Im glad fer y'all to love your euro-fast busy-ness, it just dont move me. As for my shaft, tx fer the interest, spose thats standard white-ass diss.
Shaft - Thu Nov 23 0:14:20 2000

10, 10, 10, 10, 10's across the board !
Mr Panties - Thu Nov 23 1:35:17 2000

is shaft for real - i thought people only talked like that in movies with bad dialogue!
Thu Nov 23 8:15:34 2000

For Christs sake some body find me a universal translator !
Thu Nov 23 8:44:58 2000

Still do Shafts shaft
Lover - Thu Nov 23 8:52:16 2000

When do tickets for Pride go on sale?? How much etc.??
Thanks for the info. - Thu Nov 23 13:58:38 2000

How big is the Shaft Shaft ?
in inches - Thu Nov 23 13:58:43 2000

Hi Readers, a pal prompted my first visit to this room and the following are solely my opinion, not necessarily as a dj: 1)With dance parties, do your homework. Know what you want, who's playing, their 'sound', then decide. Remember some dj's have versatility to play differently at a party. Politics aside, I feel Pride's line-up offers something for everybody. Congrats to the dj's selected! 2}You gotta make it happen as well. Many factors contribute to the success of a party and we as punters are part and parcel of the package. Don't like a set, then switch halls. 3)As with any industry, politicians, individuals with wicked mouths, insecure unselected dj's and self-promoters abound LOL. Let the fools carry their own crosses, coz they think they're incognito, but 98% of this industry Know who they are! You just go and have Your fun!! Takes all sorts...so let's all work on being the good sort. Meanwhile y'all have a safe holiday season and a good year ahead. Thanks for reading.
coco - Thu Nov 23 14:40:45 2000

Oh Shaft u da muddaf*kker dude. Yo. (barf)
Thu Nov 23 14:44:55 2000

ps..many thanks, on behalf of the Home crew, to all who supported Hey Homo. See, You made it happen again :)
coco - Thu Nov 23 15:07:09 2000

Thanks for the info - pride tickets are on sale now from Centre and Toolshed. $95 full price, $65 members, $40 concession (health card needed).
Just got mine! - Thu Nov 23 16:21:28 2000

To Coco, I thought your message was a breath of fresh air. Summer is coming, and what better city to be in than Sydney? Not only do we have a beautiful city, but gorgeous weather and a dynamic, active night life with some bitchin hot DJ's. I agree with your comments about the pride line-up which I also think is creative and caters for many tastes - after all isn't NYE for everybody? I would also like to extendsd my congrats to them. I think there's some outstanding talent with a nice blend of dance party experience (sioux, mark, ben) and up and comings (gavan, chip). Looking forward to your sets. It's so nice to finally see some decent commentary on this web page.
Party Boy - Thu Nov 23 16:44:07 2000

Ruby Party tomorrow night at Icebox. Anyone headed there? I just got my tix at Onestop DJ. $10.00 seems like a great deal. Individual laminated tickets. very swanky! :-) Jokes aside, I'm looking forward to hearing some great music and having a bit of a dance. See you there.
Thu Nov 23 17:29:04 2000

Dear Coco and Party Boy I think you are both a breathe of fresh air to this somewhat stinky board. It is so nice to know that some intelligent people visit this site. Good on you both.
How refreshing - Thu Nov 23 18:09:18 2000

I agree, sometimes this board can be so frustrating{but strangly addictive} but Coco and Party Boy made me smile.
smiley - Thu Nov 23 18:15:41 2000

Personal abuse deleted.

ps: the club scene here is rockin! (Lisbon)
Chiclet (da Silva) - Thu Nov 23 21:42:21 2000

Courtesy reply to the above: Yawn!!
coco - Thu Nov 23 22:34:10 2000

ps. Courtesy reply 2: chiclet and blah blah burden...you're so obviously missing substance and your replies are so unconstructive...Yawn again!! It's never too late to learn from 'party boy', 'smiley' and 'how refreshing'. C'mon...I still got faith in ya.
coco - Thu Nov 23 22:49:18 2000

Hey Lover, if yr the same as "luvthemjigaboos" you maybe should know that "jigaboo" is up there with "nigger" as a far as ugly words go to the folks you so keen to get sized...and to the unnamed "muddaf*kker", sorry to hear you be poorly, barfin n all. Would my careful enunciation of your queens English in a homogenized, sanitized, non-idiomatic, scrupulously spelled white version of linguistic purity do anything to ease your apparent nausea? Tuff.
Shaft - Thu Nov 23 23:26:18 2000

He's a complicated man!
Right on! - Fri Nov 24 0:11:30 2000

well i went to the sleaze ball wall and was shocked to see it closed down ....Damn - I only wanted to say that there is 99 Days to go :)
counting down - Fri Nov 24 0:12:43 2000

it's not about the dress, Muriel !
Cheap Perspex Trophy - Fri Nov 24 1:10:37 2000

Yes it was me Shaft. Every race has nicknames even us "whites" as you say. But why do you use "cultural nigger" or "str8homies" or "white ass town " in your posts ? No offence was meant. Still wanna sleep with ya.
Lover - Fri Nov 24 9:32:47 2000

Pig-let...i mean Chiclet~you tortured soul!
Ring(de bell) - Fri Nov 24 10:47:59 2000

lumpinee park
Fri Nov 24 13:11:59 2000

counting down - Fri Nov 24 0:12:43 2000 - You really need to get a life. Even stealing someone else's would be a step up for you.
Fri Nov 24 13:33:57 2000

Leave him alone. I'd much rather his positive attitude than some of the vitriol that appears here.
Nat - Fri Nov 24 14:32:05 2000

I'll second that.
EC - Fri Nov 24 16:13:01 2000

Thanks boys :)
countdown boy - Fri Nov 24 18:13:45 2000

Thanks boys :)
countdown boy - Fri Nov 24 18:13:46 2000

it's so nice, he wrote it twice
KooKoo - Fri Nov 24 18:31:10 2000

not twice - try thrice
Fri Nov 24 19:01:00 2000

i'm surprised he didn't do a countdown as to when he was going to stop
Fri Nov 24 22:05:25 2000

I think the Frisky Party is amazing, as I have come to Sydney from Melbourne for the Melbourne guest DJ..he was brilliant .really cute and played some funky shit,
Sat Nov 25 0:49:02 2000

JoJo has been given a gig and well deserved at the new circuit party to be held in Noosa called Oasis. Apparently these people really know what they are doing and they are using Rob Davis, Neil Lewis John Portelli and of course the iconic JoJo,Stop bitching everybody because this is the party of parties and will put Australia on the map and create a whole new vibe for the country..this will truly be an amazing spiritual experience.
Sat Nov 25 0:58:16 2000

Do you want to hear even bitchier shit about DJS and community organisations in melbourne? then you should investigate this site now.......altqueernews@egroups.com do yourself a big favour...read all about the club stuff here..you thought Sydney was bad.
Sat Nov 25 1:17:49 2000

JP, you wouldn't have been so obvious if you hadn't posted the last two messages so close together! ;0 Good luck with Noosa, would be great to see it become an Australian Ibiza!
Phantom Menace - Sat Nov 25 1:19:34 2000
This is the opinion of the poster.

I thought Melbourne was really together whats going on down there this stuff is really destructive .
Sat Nov 25 1:19:59 2000

Oops, make that the second last three entries!
PM - Sat Nov 25 1:20:54 2000

where is Ibiza.......................................
Sat Nov 25 1:29:38 2000

please dont boycott me... I am really scared
Sat Nov 25 1:35:03 2000

I have just been to Oxford Street and am really impressed with the Midnightshift renovations, I reckon they will be great when they are finished............................................great music too...anyway off to home for a fabulous night of debauchery and sex.
Abbey G - Sat Nov 25 1:55:27 2000

Hey, just home from Cyberglade at the Daintree Cafe. Brilliant party: great mixed and cool crowd with a large queer representation. I reckon about 1/3 of the boys/men were gay. Great venue and fab music too (acid trance, psychadelic trance, hard trance, deep tech trance ..etc). More please. Oooh, sleeping pills kicking in zzzzzzz
PN - Sat Nov 25 6:09:39 2000

network the community at altqueernews@egroups.com
concerned community - Sat Nov 25 6:18:05 2000

can phantom menace please email me direct immediately on max tonkin @hotmail .com or else.................................
party boy perth - Sat Nov 25 6:21:27 2000

What is everyone doing New Years Eve ?
Melbourne traveller - Sat Nov 25 6:24:28 2000

My names is Abby and I am a nightclub promoter in Sydney. I work for Melbournes leading charity.The Also Foundation. We have not had very successful parties lately, but we are having a New Years Eve bash at the Prince.Although it will be ab average party we are providing entertainment to the community with our very own community legend DJs.millennium party.2001
Abby G - Sat Nov 25 6:30:43 2000

http://www.egroups.com/group/altqueernews/ Hey guys this is the web link for alt qreer news . Its amazing the comments made by all the community leaders of melbourne.
Sat Nov 25 8:01:12 2000

Redemption Melbourne don't forget Rob Davis Queen Martine John Portelli and Peter Mac Mona...next Saturday. World Aids Day fundraiser and Mr Leather Melbourne.Billboards. Everybodys' favourite party............................be there or beware././
avid supporter - Sat Nov 25 8:36:34 2000

Coutdown Boy is kewl, we tried to find you at Sleaze but couldn't find you. Next time maybe???
The Doctor and The Wordsmith - Sat Nov 25 8:51:37 2000

Just a quick note to let you all know there is a new monthly night starting up...called MASH..opening night is the 16th December (saturday night).. Dj's on the night are Mark Murphy, Thao, Mandy Rollins, Reiki Aura & 2Hard. It's at 111 Regent St, Chippendale..going through till 6am :-))
Sat Nov 25 8:53:14 2000

Just a quick note I can't wait for New Years Day Frisky..........I love the music..its such a fun fulfilling party filled with fashion,frolic and funny stuff get tickets soon
Sat Nov 25 11:03:14 2000

me too
frisky person - Sat Nov 25 11:04:29 2000

Noosa - DJ line up - funny
Chiclet - Sat Nov 25 11:09:01 2000

I love chiclet shes a bitch
Sat Nov 25 13:41:12 2000

Can someone please tell me about the radio debate..im sure it's really interesting....not
enquiring mind - Sat Nov 25 13:42:29 2000

Punkboard has a new stirrer as of last night. He is from Melbourne, prominent, and itching for an outlet. Please people, he has done enough damage in Melbourne, please don't bite on his comments and make this board any worse than it is! Expect lots of Frisky, Oasis and ALSO comments looking for a reaction.
Sat Nov 25 14:19:30 2000
This is the opinion of the poster.

Panther: Do we have to read boring Melbourne news/gossip/rumours/bullshit here? Can't you give them a wall of their own?
TW - Sat Nov 25 17:59:45 2000

oh dear oh dear oh dear - we just love the staellite group and the way they have gone bust of the G&L community.Last week Outrage magazine got put out to pasture and then we get wind that both the Beresford and the Beachamp Hotels are on the market.Now I went down to pick up my weekly Capital Q newspaper only to be sold its gone broke as well and there is no more Capital Q (which I find awful because Capital Q was so much better the SSO).
Thanks alot satellite group for totally making such a mess - what is next ????
Gay scene is back to a one newspaper community and there are tears in my eyes - Sat Nov 25 20:14:24 2000

HAHA HAHA - just heard the new 2000 remix of Perfect Day by Indigo ! Its so good ! Its gonna kick start the song all over again.Could somebody please let JoJo know theres a new mix for him the play at Frisky parties for the next 3 years !!!
Cheers - Sat Nov 25 21:49:12 2000

Personal abuse deleted.

A serious question - who has done the new mix? Anyone know? And has it really out yet? I am keen for a listen, it was great track in its day (although I would never admit that to anyone now!) This opinion is made totally outside of the Frisky debate, so please don't bring JoJo into it.
Perfect - Sun Nov 26 0:12:38 2000

Personal abuse deleted.

The new 2000 remixes of perfect day are done by the original producers of Indigo - ie - almighty !
Sun Nov 26 2:29:47 2000

Personal abuse deleted.

Panteez...why are you awake at 6.11am on a sunday morning.Isnt that a tad early to be getting home from a night out ?
A>D - Sun Nov 26 11:25:47 2000

This wall is for all Australia.
Panther - Sun Nov 26 11:46:32 2000

Re my posting at Sun Nov 26 11:25:47 2000
I want to clarrify myself since the posting above mine got deleted as personal abuse - Panteez made a witty posting at 6.11am this morning which i replied to.Pity panteez acid tounge gets him into so much strife :P
A>D - Sun Nov 26 12:01:27 2000

Tina Cousins was great in Brisbane last night. *****
Sun Nov 26 12:04:29 2000
Potentially libellous comments deleted.

Sounds like the above poster tried to hit on Tina's manager and got hit in the gob :)
Sun Nov 26 13:10:21 2000

What's the matter, Potsie? Had to come and destroy Pinkboard as well? Not long before you dominate all the postings on this graffiti wall like you do with altqueernews. Take this as constructive criticism.
Sun Nov 26 13:13:19 2000

Ruby Part 2 at Icebox on Friday night was excellent. Great crowd and Luke blew me away with his set. Can't wait until the next Ruby party.
Bondi Boy - Sun Nov 26 18:17:48 2000

to everyone who is thinking of taking GBH - if you really do have to take it please know that only a very small amount is necessary and absolutley do not take it if you have had any alcohol at all. someone had too much last night and ended up with us having to give him mouth to mouth resus as he stopped breathing and his heart stopped in the club. very very scary and not an experience i would wish on anyone.
Shaerin - Sun Nov 26 19:39:25 2000

The Music Maker - Mon Nov 13 19:49:59 2000 who are you? Thanks for the compliment. Some mates told me about it last night! (Blush) email me at gavan@cdpool.com.au if you want to disclose who you are?
Gavan (Our lips are Sealed) Bright :-) - Sun Nov 26 20:23:26 2000

Nat - Mon Nov 20 13:42:08 2000 Hi M8. read your comments and I have to agree the MG has finally broken the mould. I have been picking myself up off the floor in shock recently with the amount of young open gay and yet to work it out gay men at parties such as Frantic as in last night. Rocking crowd there I was going off to wicked tunes canning it with Kelli. To my left was two filthy gay guys that I have never seen out dancing in footy shorts. They live in Penrith and hate the strip (I wonder why) Yummy Eye Candy everywhere. Excellent night Nat! Email me if you want a comp to the next one. gavan@cdpool.com.au. Hard House is here to stay if you consider that not every gay guy fit's into a particular style of music and many young guys around 18 - 20 have been listening to dance music in various forms from Birth! The Generation X,Y,Z or what ever cymbal is finding a voice I guess! My thoughts are Hard House should be in the Hordern. But you can all shoot me down if you want, Just my opinion
Gavan (Our lips are Sealed) Bright :-) - Sun Nov 26 20:35:11 2000

the lips are sealed but the legs are open. god bless ya Gav !
El Panteez - Sun Nov 26 21:02:52 2000

Maybe it's time to go to any party we want - just because it might be fun, not just because it's "GLBT and all my friends". It would be nice to think that the str8s and the rest of us could coexist at a party. But I suppose MG proved that years ago with Sleaze.
Sun Nov 26 21:11:38 2000

I've gotta say, I've been going to a few straight events lately, and had a fantastic time. If you pick a party where people are there for the music rather than because its "the place to be", you'll be stunned at the energy and friendlines. Examples are Frantic (which went off last night), Gatecrasher, and the occasional Thursday night at Home when they showcase internationals (although sme of the Home internationals can be hit or miss, the crowd makes up for it). Queer parties targetting a mixed crowd don't compare. It would be great to see some more ARQ-type regulars talk a couple of their friends into experimenting with one of these types of parties. Comments?
Frankenstein's Monster - Sun Nov 26 21:31:31 2000

Just a quick thank you to all those involved in putting on Ruby Party 2 on Friday night. Great music, fun no-attitude crowd, and in the "best bang for your ten bucks" category, it was by far the winner for any kind of entertainment this weekend. Thanks again! When's the next one?
Ruby fan - Sun Nov 26 22:06:04 2000

for all you queer techno heads, there's a party on Dec 23 - FagRave ! set in an abandoned warehouse in Alexandria. feat DJ's Brent Nichols (uk) Luke Leal (newcastle) BabyBear (perth) Gavan Bright (brisbane) and Scotlands finest HappyHarcore Dj - Loop-ee ! tech specs include a 100w sound system, 10 roboscans, crab laser, fog machine (large) and trippy visuals from the Nitegroove team. tix are limited at $25 +bf from Hound Dog, Bodyline, Pile Up and Ashwoods. dont forget to byo glowsticks and lose yourself in the 190bpm maddness !
Panteez Productions - Sun Nov 26 22:19:09 2000

Personal abuse deleted.

I'm curious how u find out about all the underaged and underground raves in perth. I seem to always find out about them 3 days to late :) email me if u feel like helping someone out :) pumba@tower.net.au
Sun Nov 26 22:51:54 2000

Why cant Mardi Gras do 3 or 4 parties a year ? There is certainly a market for MG to tap into here.The 3rd and or 4th parties dont have to be on the same scale / size / or cost of MG or Sleaze , but could be a party say in the range of 1500 to 4000.

Frisky makes way too much money cause they are perceived as the only "big scale" event after MG parties.Its time MG tried to get some of this "action" - hell even a bi-monthly MG run party at the Metro would be fun and very profitable without having to promote it much at all !

If this was done MG would easily get more incoming funds and it would also give all those whinging unselected DJ's a better chance to get a gig for a MG run event.

There are way too many party people out there getting absolutely jack of the shit that is being dealt to us in the gay and lesbain clubs (particularly in reference to ARQ) at the moment.I'd much rather have the chance to do a MG event say once every 10-12 weeks than have to deal with ARQ (or any other gay club) on a regular basis.

If Mardi Gras are so focussed about raising money so they can put on a good MG festival,parade and party then why not tap into this idea - its so logical !

Anybody else like the sounds of this idea ???

Just a boy ! - Sun Nov 26 23:05:25 2000

How about MG concentrate on getting the 2 parties they already attempt right. We need them f*cking up the rest of our parties like a fish needs a bicycle.
Sun Nov 26 23:14:57 2000

whAT "rest of our parties" ? There are no other parties to F*uck up at the moment - talk about an oxymoron !
Sun Nov 26 23:26:21 2000

Well there's a tip for young players! Nobody would dare start their own party in this climate for fear of putting a heap of time and money (and sweat and tears) and having it be "taken" by a community body who decide after the hard work is done that they'd like to have it for themselves.
Sun Nov 26 23:50:10 2000

You're right. There's already few enough "party providers" out there already. Having only MG would make it hideously hogeneous.
Sun Nov 26 23:51:02 2000

There's the main commercial parties: Ice, Harbour Party, Frisky and the main community parties: MG, Sleaze, Hand in Hand, Pride
Sun Nov 26 23:52:44 2000

Plus the Lobby's Launch party...plus Twilight...plus - get those calendars out.
Sun Nov 26 23:54:21 2000

too funny! MG have done such a crappy job of doing just two parties. what makes you think they deserve more?
Sun Nov 26 23:54:58 2000

Can you imagine the Sydney music scene if MG ran all the parties. yech!! not just because they do crappy parties but because we would suffer from lowest common denominator targetting on the music like MG already do with their parties.
Sun Nov 26 23:57:22 2000

Hey Homo - don't forget Hey Homo!
Sun Nov 26 23:58:07 2000

I would suggest that Frisky deserves every single cent they've earned. And by looking at their production, it looks like they have churned a higher percentage than MG ever would have back into the parties.
Mon Nov 27 0:02:51 2000

Just a boy ! Has this been lifted directly from preliminary MG strategy documents? Where do you work?
Mon Nov 27 0:04:39 2000

The commercial parties seem to do better events (on the whole) than community events. Why change what's not broken? It would be better to fix the particular community parties that are broken. Then we all end up with more.
Mon Nov 27 0:07:22 2000

Just a boy! All this assumes that MG is already doing a stellar job. And that they just need to run more events. Anyone...anyone...anyone....someone help me out here. Surely if this was true I would have gotten the memo! Good grief!
Mon Nov 27 0:09:44 2000

Metro is too small for MG to be able to make money. Less than 1500 people. Plus how about creating rather than destroying and starting something at Wharf 8. House Solution was **fantastic** last weekend.
Mon Nov 27 0:12:48 2000

A big thankyou goes out to all who attended the Ruby Party 2 at Icebox on Friday night - it was another great success for our fledgeling music & party collective. We'll keep you posted for the next party. For those wanting something more permanent by which to remember the evening, head down to One Stop Deejay, or drop us a line to ruby_dance@hotmail.com
Amf... - Mon Nov 27 0:14:48 2000

Can they have a few extra parties that are advertised solely for the straights? Of course we'd let them think it's a MG party but it would just be an excuse to let them get their "I've been to a MG party" out of their system, take their money (rip them off big time) and then not have them at MG and Sleaze. That would be great!
Mon Nov 27 9:32:30 2000

I want to order some CD's ( dont live in Sydney ) so cant go and just listen first. We loved the music in Dome for Sleaze ( Hard House ? ). Can anyone give me some names of current CD's to buy with this style of music ?
Thanks - Mon Nov 27 9:51:35 2000

My point is this.

I am a fan of the more (to use some of you guys awful quotes) "hideously hogeneous" and "lowest common denominator" style parties.I **L I K E** the more commercial parties and I dont agree that MG stuff up their two events every year - quite the opposite in my opinion.
I dont rate Ice or Frisky or Hey Homo as "commercial" parties as I dont like the harder music that these parties play.There are 1000's of other people out there who have not and will not ever be converted to this sort of music.

At least MG have always catered to people like me by putting on a handbag DJ or two in the RHI,which is something I cant get at Frisky,Ice or Hey Homo.

This restricts me to 4 parties a year (NYE,Hand In Hand and the 2 MG parties).

Im sick of being dealt the crap that our clubs are dishing out at the moment so for me I would rather save my money and go out to a MG run event once every 2-3 months than give my $'s to privately run clubs who have never had my best interests at heart.

I would also rather spend my $'s on a community run dance party rather than contribute my $'s to a private enterprise dance party.

Now this is nothing personal against the Frisky team or the teams that run Ice,Hey Homo and the like - its just my opinion (i know they do provide a great service to people who like those sort of parties),but these people have probably made a small fortune from these parties,and I personally would prefer to see MG get some of this "action" to help out with better funding of the MG festival , parade ,and party and of course would like to see MG divert more of its profits to more important Gay and Lesbian issues like Bobby Goldsmith,ACON,etc etc etc.

And there was a question about where I work ?? Well thats not for publication I'm afraid !
Just a boy ! - Mon Nov 27 10:03:00 2000

Just a boy! - MG & Sleaze are put on mostly by volunteers, including the party committee itself. I doubt they would have enough energy to put on more parties. There probably is a niche for another community group or 2 to put on parties.
Arti - Mon Nov 27 10:29:34 2000

I think that for any party succeed , they must have a minimum of 2 Halls. One for hard house style , the other more commercial or funky style so dancers can have a choice. Agree with most of Just a Boys posts, would be nice to have just a few more parties like MG,Pride,Acon where our monies go to our community not just $1 for every $100 etc. Loved Frisky but Metro just a bit too small. Loved the old Alexandria Basketball site but not used anymore. It was just the perfect size.
Jase - Mon Nov 27 10:37:56 2000

Just a boy: What about Pollies? Sounds like it would be just your cup of tea. Your posting makes it obvious that one persons idea of hard, commercial or handbag is not the same as anothers. If you feel that you don't have anywhere to go (what about the Flinders or the Taxi Club?), you could try starting up something yourself. That's where most promoters begin. BTW, I know that promoters don't necessarily makes lots of money. Many of them do it for their love of the music they help to provide and the crowd that they are targetting.
Nat - Mon Nov 27 10:44:44 2000

Nat - oh please spare me !
Ok so the flinders and the taxi club play commercial music ,but have you been to them lately ? Particulary the Flinders ? Its a run down dump that hasnt seen one cent spent on its surrounds for 20 years.I dont care how good the music is there,Im not spending any of my money in a place that looks like an atomic bomb just hit it.
My point is that I want to see more community groups putting on events to raise money for community issues rather than relying on charity.Mardi Gras sole purpose is to do this,and I feel they are being under utilised by only doing 2 events per year while other private enterprises are reaping in the cash from our community.
Just a boy ! - Mon Nov 27 11:02:29 2000

Hmmm - I think this wall is best kept away from Melbourne. We don't need this vitriol. I enjoy reading about clubs that I won't be at and have I missed the point of Frisky? Re Mon 27 Nov 10:03 - how can a club that thrives on "Perfect Day" be accused of not playing handbag?
lovin' it - Mon Nov 27 11:09:14 2000

lovin it - one song in a 9 hour dance party does not make for a handbag set of music. It just makes for a renogade track coming out of left field.
Mon Nov 27 11:11:58 2000

Mardi Gras putting on parties every 10-12 Weeks? You've got to be bloody joking. They only just manage to put on satisfactory parties twice a year now. And what profit would be left after you employed at least two people to do the job at the end of the day? Hardly seems worth setting up another MG disaster like MG Music.
Deep Throat - Mon Nov 27 11:19:20 2000

commies are not welcome on this board.
The Gay Community. Or is it? - Mon Nov 27 11:40:54 2000

With regarding the suggestion on MG parties. It is not possible for parties at the Metro with capacity of approximately 1200 to stage the Mardi Gras festival, which is rumoured to have start up cost of $250,000, and an overall cost of twice that much. It is dubious that you could get public to support an MG party on two consecutive nights, and unlikely to expect crowds to get excited about the two major parties in year when they have just been given another six.

Mon Nov 27 11:51:15 2000

"while other private enterprises are reaping in the cash from our community"....just a boy... this is absolute crap these parties....ice, hey homo and frisky make little money (fact) do your homework they are catering for small groups there is no money to be made at these parties..(fact: it all goes back into production)
your friendly stock broker - Mon Nov 27 11:54:31 2000

Just a boy - if you think that all the prominent commercial dance parties make a "small fortune", you have no idea. Do some research before you make such wild, absolutely stupid allegations! Dear God, you are a joke! It's also quite funny! If only you knew how many big losses must be made before a party is considered "prominent"! Hey Homo I would not include ... it is merely a club night, not a promoter event.
Laughing! - Mon Nov 27 12:03:22 2000

Potentially libelous message deleted.

Agree "my opinion " . "Just a boy" has some valid points and is passionate about his post but in true style has been shot to pieces,ripped apart etc. Maybe "Laughing" is one of those rich promoters. Whilst not all parties are successes , the established parties do make a pretty $ for the promoters. How hard could it be with MG's experienced board to throw a few extra parties in somewhere decent like the Horder or Wharf 8 ( which has 2 floors to cater for 2 different styles ). No shows , no parade, no design, just a little money earner with DJ's , lighting etc, instead of banking everything on their one money spinner Sleaze Ball.
Seconded. - Mon Nov 27 12:56:26 2000

The Party Committee of MG is purely voluntary, and the two parties they do keep them more than 100% occupied in their spare time. To ask them to put on an aditional, even very basic party is a huge undertaking, especially in terms of marketing. As for JoJo being a millionaire from Frisky, as a promoter, naturally I have done my sums of what Frisky could possibly make as a maximum over the time they have been going (it only takes a couple of minutes if you have the info), and to say he is a millionaire from it is laughable. A quick calculation of the money earned from ticket sales without subtracting costs is barely reaching $1M now. Please, at least do the most basic calculations before you post outlandish claims or believe other people's destructive rumours.
Devlin - Mon Nov 27 14:00:18 2000

Q. How do you make a small fortune putting on parties?

A. Start off with a large fortune.
Mon Nov 27 14:14:12 2000

I'm with Devlin do some home work we don't need these alligations here.
Mon Nov 27 15:53:44 2000

I certainly didn't intend to shoot "Just a Boy" to pieces. I was offering him some advice and giving him some facts. As for MG running other parties, they tried that a few years ago (early 90's) with the Bent parties. I understand that they didn't work.
Nat - Mon Nov 27 15:54:20 2000

"Mardi Gras can't even do two parties" they think they do a fabulous party,but that 's only amongst themselves.,(read the board 2000 degrees) please no more! mardi gras needs to come back in size.Start catering for the gay community again. Enough with the festival. Give us the smaller parties we use to have.
Mon Nov 27 16:02:54 2000

Just a boy ! - Mon Nov 27 10:03:00 2000 Your comments At least MG have always catered to people like me by putting on a handbag DJ or two in the RHI,which is something I cant get at Frisky,Ice or Hey Homo.

Wrong on one account, Hey homo is very commercial trance, and ICE never make them selves out to be commercial but in a way they are they are commercial Hard House.

This restricts me to 4 parties a year (NYE,Hand In Hand and the 2 MG parties)

you have left out Pride! Ruby Parties plus them Free FM parties.
I am grown up - Mon Nov 27 16:19:38 2000

Potsie = John Port Authority of altqueernews and now pinkboard loard help us if he spills his drink over Larrys server!
I am grown up, really I am! - Mon Nov 27 16:25:41 2000

El Panteez - Sun Nov 26 21:02:52 2000 No it's more like arse in the air amyl bottle screwed into my nose socket. Never on my back! hehe
I am grown up, really I am! :-) (worked it out yet?) - Mon Nov 27 16:31:48 2000

Frankenstein's Monster - Sun Nov 26 21:31:31 2000 Your so right look at plastic on Fridays even if the room is full of kiddies fresh from HSC. They are real nice kid's, polite and very open. Sex is not their what, they are there for nothing but the music (and the Glow Sticks). More sophisticated clubbers might go to gigs at home or gas when they have internationals on the bill the vibe can be hit or miss. But it's always the local jocks that can crank a crowd into full gear look at the posting over the previous 12 months on this wall and altqueernews and the same situation seems to apply for melb and syd. As a punter we expect a lot from our music makers (the DJ's) they keep the tribal beat together of the dance community which is about dance not GLBT issues thats found in the quality reading of the SSO paper! Take Also parties in melb, or Monkey also in Melb, The Sensational Run also in Melb(which Kitty rocked) all fine examples of mixed parties that work well. Some Sydney Queens don't know the meaning of the word mixed, they might think its a new cocktail at ARQ hehe
I am too old for this ... - Mon Nov 27 16:44:01 2000

Panteez Productions - Sun Nov 26 22:19:09 2000 But I am from Brisbane! that can't be right why not say coppabella (look it up)
Gavan (Our lips are Sealed) Bright :-) - Mon Nov 27 16:55:16 2000

avid supporter - Sat Nov 25 8:36:34 2000 Kevin and JP?
Mon Nov 27 17:09:08 2000

Wander why Jo Jo even bothers giving to the community when their is little thank you from those organisations and their members and what he has to endure here is just vile. Get a life and get off pinkboard?
Mon Nov 27 17:18:11 2000

Personal abuse deleted.

Anyone hear how the White Party in Miami went? Guess David Knapp was DJ again??
Mon Nov 27 17:34:12 2000

Wow! Someone makes one suggestion and he gets ripped to pieces. Those "competitor's" must be quite threatened that someone has put up an idea that could cost the alot of money. I say we should all email Panther so that he can post all the IP addresses of the posters today. I'm sure quite a few of the posts slamming Just a Boy are coming from the same address.
Mon Nov 27 18:20:56 2000

Wouldn't be the first time people have asked for the veil of anonymity to be removed from Pinkboard. Of course Pinkboard would be very quiet if everyone had to put a name to their comments. That said, "Just a boy" came up with a pretty radical suggestion and I think a few people decided it was radical enough to comment on. There are many people in our community who think that MG has had its day and to hand them any more influence on a platter would be the wrong way to go.
Mon Nov 27 19:04:20 2000

I rarely post, but after seeing the comments from Just a boy!, my goodness, spare us your propaganda. If your comments are not propaganda then sign your name Mr or Ms Just a boy!
Shane Hulme - Paddington - Mon Nov 27 19:05:53 2000
This is the opinion of the poster.

well said
Mon Nov 27 19:14:39 2000

ditto!
Mon Nov 27 19:17:38 2000

IP's are too easy to mess with. I suggest a membership system so we can all see who we are. But I've proposed it before...but now you want it. ;-)
Mon Nov 27 19:20:03 2000

Gee I'm so gonna end this discussion
1. I like community run dance party events
2. I dont like privately put on dance party events
3. I make one little radical suggestion and ask for civil discussion on the topic.
4. I get shot down in flames using crude and foul language.
5. Pity poor me for expressing my opinion !
Just a boy ! - Mon Nov 27 19:30:03 2000

"More sophisticated clubbers might go to gigs at home" Only because of what home offers. Music. Music. Music.
Mon Nov 27 19:51:26 2000

Try not to take it too personally Just a boy, I think every regular poster on here has been hauled over the coals on at least one occasion. It can hurt when you feel your legitimate idea is ripped apart but thats the risk (and reward) of posting in an anonymous environment. I don't really read this board for the talk of parties (I either enjoy or don't enjoy a party by my own standards and don't need it validated by anyone else), I read these walls more to observe the chaodic nature of discussion that takes place in this adhoc "cyber" community. I never want to know who posts what, it would loose the whole concept of being a "graffiti wall". I think its great we can participate in a discussion with basically no rules (whatever did happen to Free vs Out [lol]). Sure there are some deliberate stirrers but its easy to disregard their vitriol as irrelivant. I always sign my nick and am happy to stand by what I have to say but I don't expect that from everyone else. My 2 cents worth to the topic you have raised is that MG do a good job with the 2 parties they do. Holding them more often would loose the magic that only they (and to a lesser extent the other community parties) have. I also like and have no problem with the commercial parties. They provide a service that I am happy to pay for as a consumer. I do kind of wish that Ice, Frisky and other parties would get some kind of informal calender going so that there was a regular choice of party every couple of weeks. I would also like to see a (legal) one off wharehouse type party that had specific G&L crowd.
BND - Mon Nov 27 20:35:48 2000

BND - Thank you so much for putting some integrity back into the topic.It's good to see that some people in this world have actually got some manners.Its a breath of fresh air next to the acid tongued (censored) people who cant argue a point without reverting to abuse and gutter language. I'll buy you a drink anyday bud.
Just a boy ! - Mon Nov 27 20:52:06 2000

Bring back the Alexandria parties!
Mon Nov 27 20:54:04 2000

my my, what a busy day on PinkBored ! yes Gavan, more coppabella & less hydro for you my friend. !ma I ohw llew nmad wonk uoy.
El Panteez - Mon Nov 27 22:00:54 2000

Dear Just a boy! Crude and foul language, please give us a break and I see you still won't sign your name. This is definitely the opinion of the poster - Thankyou Panther
Shane Hulme - Paddington - Mon Nov 27 22:03:29 2000

so you feel better signing your name shane ? More fool you !
Mon Nov 27 22:11:04 2000

one little radical suggestion. Just the one dear?
Mon Nov 27 22:33:06 2000

Just a boy! You have come up with bunch of opinions which would obviously change the party landscape in Sydney quite dramatically. It is no wonder that people have raised objections to your ideas. These were not personal attacks. You are not a victim. (By my calculations the people on this wall were just getting warmed up.) You made

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so your point stood out as you intended and people engaged actively in the discussion.

But if you realised what you were talking about in the first instance you would have been ready to back your opinions up with hard data. You've moved the issues you raised to the personal preference arena - which is fine. Some of us prefer communism. Others prefer capitalism. Most of us prefer something in between.
But a lot of us are over MG. It is a matter of opinion as to whether they do a good or bad job. By the number of Sydney boys absent from Sleaze this year and by the piddling number of people at the AGMs this year, I'd say the public have given their vote of no confidence quite strongly.
Mon Nov 27 22:46:07 2000
This is the opinion of the poster.

Yeah and people's positive suggestions should be met with insults.
Mon Nov 27 23:05:56 2000

"some integrity back into the topic"...just a boy *here's a tip:- cause I think you need one.*Think,research, then express your thoughts on pinkboard.Be very very careful what you say.Everything has three meanings on these walls.You cannot and I repeat cannot, make broad sweeping statments if you haven't done your homework. And yes the concept of MG doing other parties is interesting....end of story.
stockbroker - Mon Nov 27 23:08:50 2000

"positive suggestions". Again not all of what you said was positive. You now know that and hopefully have learn't from your mistake. Looking forward to some other more researched ideas :)
Mon Nov 27 23:20:09 2000

Just a boy! - If you take this kind of discussion as an insult perhaps you're a little too delicate for a forum like this. People were questioning your ideas not attacking you - however strongly. And they have every right to. The same as you have every right to hold an opinion and argue the facts, not just your feelings. Just don't expect the world to roll over without questioning. If that's what you were expecting, I'd think it's time to consider that there are other points of view in the world apart from yours. Then strengthen your arguments and take it from there.
Mon Nov 27 23:33:36 2000

I think it's pretty much common knowledge that MG has been wanting to spread its wings into other parties for a while now. To get some more revenue and to regain some of the glamour that it has lost to smaller parties willing to put a higher percentage of revenue back into production. In unsuccessfully attempting to knock down other commercial community parties some questionable tactics have been used and punters, promoters and others are sick of it.
So, Just a boy! when you came in here guns ablazin' some of us may have seen it as the declaration of all out war that we'd been waiting for for. We all have our favourite parties and jumped to protect them.
If you were not aware are this you are now. And looking back you will see why you got so many fast and furious responses
If you were aware of it, then you will know just how well you've stirred the pot.
Mon Nov 27 23:48:01 2000

Most of you acid mouthed posters on here put our politicians to shame.Gee,I thought question time in parliament was filthy.The attack on "Just a Boy's" quite interseting suggestions have been on the whole aggressive and quite unnecessery.There are varying ways to argue a point.It seems most of you cannot point your point across without resorting to abuse.This is very sad.And I encourage Panther to edit and/or delete any aggressive attacks on this board be it personal or not.Some of you guys must have been at the end of the queue when God handed out etiquette.
Jason - Mon Nov 27 23:50:56 2000

Make that "commercial and community parties" in prev post
Mon Nov 27 23:52:53 2000

I was wondering if this comment may lighten up proceedings a little -----> 95 days to go -----> 95 days to go -----> 95 days to go -----> 95 days to go -----> 95 days to go -----> 95 days to go !
Countdown Boy :) - Tue Nov 28 0:04:22 2000

So where are these "vicious attacks"? I see talking, but no personal attacks. What did I miss?
Tue Nov 28 0:05:27 2000

So where are these "vicious attacks"? I see talking, but personal attacks. What did I miss?
Tue Nov 28 0:05:52 2000

So we've been "attacking" and innocent have we? Goodness gracious, I didn't think it was that bad. I've seen some private enterprise parties take it a lot harder with much more twisted dialogue on these walls. Then someone gets up on the soapbox for Mardi Gras and we're not allowed to say anything negative? I think the lady doth protest too much.
Tue Nov 28 0:09:37 2000

And Todays controversial topic is.................
Tue Nov 28 9:15:21 2000

Jo Jo's secret gay life!!!
Tue Nov 28 11:11:20 2000

Thanks for a great laugh! After all the crap flying on this board these past few days (years?), this post made my day. Hee hee! Who's going to tell JoJo that he's gay?
Tue Nov 28 11:23:33 2000

Does anyone know whether Pride has any kind of costume parade or competition for "Pagan Night"?
Tue Nov 28 11:34:37 2000

I'm sure he'll be happy to know that we've accepted him well and truly as one of our own.
Tue Nov 28 11:47:46 2000

It is with a great deal of pleasure that I now announce, JoJo, now to be know as JaJa, is gay.
Queen B - Tue Nov 28 11:57:51 2000

Think we should get back into DJ slamming
Tue Nov 28 12:04:09 2000

Mon Nov 27 23:33:36 2000 - There are more than three people on Pinkboard. Stop being such a bitch. Some people actually think that Just a Boy's contributions were actually positive as opposed to the usual bitching that happens here. He contributed his ideas. Don't slam him for actually being proactive.
Definitely a Man - Tue Nov 28 12:30:48 2000

Please! Proactive my butt. He knew exactly what he was up to and has obviously been a Pinkboard user for quite some time. A novice would not have known to put in the "new paragraph" codes. (For those of you who don't know, it's the less than sign followed by p and then a greater than sign.)

And one more time for the people at home: he was not willing to argue his point with facts. The poster Mon Nov 27 23:33:36 2000 has it right. His ideas were questioned. He was not "attacked".
Tue Nov 28 12:47:10 2000
This is the opinion of the poster.

Definitely a Man - Positive comments were they??
With a subtext of "Let's hand MG even more influence than they already have on a platter and put an end to our smaller successful fun privately run parties." I wouldn't call that positive no matter which way you looked at it.
Tue Nov 28 12:52:25 2000

Even better let's get back to slamming Countdown boys lame postings, who posts as if we care about what he did when he was a 13yr old with no pubes. Christ I bet he still doesn't have any.
Tue Nov 28 12:55:19 2000

Tue Nov 28 12:47:10 2000 - Knowledge of Html language is quite common amongst our compute literate youth. There are some people who actually can barely remember the 80s. I know it makes me feel very old too, but that's life.

Tue Nov 28 12:52:25 2000 - "contributions were actually positive" is what I said. ie. putting forth an idea instead of slamming someone as the sole reason for their posting. Maybe he should get with the "program" like the rest of us bitter queens and just respond with sarcasm the whole time.
Definately a Man - Tue Nov 28 13:01:20 2000

"Definitely a Man - Tue Nov 28 12:30:48 2000" forgive me but what was positive about suggesting MG do more parties?The Sydney gay crowd don't even enjoy the two parties they already do.How many Sydney gay people went?....thankyou I rest my case!
Definitely a gay man - Tue Nov 28 13:13:58 2000

Definitely a Man - oh so butch!
Tue Nov 28 13:18:26 2000

His contributions are different and separate to his comments. Gee sorry for getting them mixed up.
It's still perfectly reasonable to think through and and challenge ideas posted here. Stop being so defensive. All are welcome to their own opinions, but to generate support one must be willing to explain and support ones ideas.
Tue Nov 28 13:24:34 2000

*** Watch it boyz and girlz...on several occassions I have posted non-abusive comments on this board, only to find they have been deleted from Panther! They have, I must say, been critical of MG, but in a non-threatening manner, and non-abusive. Looks like there is some serious censorship going on here!! I wonder what other postings Panther has deleted, only to replace them with the statement 'personal abuse deleted'. I used to think this site was lame, but this just adds fuel to the fire...what a joke if people are unable to express themselves on a board which is supposedly for that purpose. I'm outta here!!!
biteme - Tue Nov 28 13:24:56 2000

"what was positive about suggesting MG do more parties?" well he actually suggested something that could be done (the practicalities of it are another thing). Maybe he should've just posted "That dj sux because he got my gig" or "that stupid bouncer didn't look at me the way I wanted him to".
Tue Nov 28 13:27:08 2000

biteme - Tue Nov 28 13:24:56 2000 - Set up your own board so that you can have as much "freedom of speech" as you like. Till then you gotta take what you are given.
Tue Nov 28 13:29:00 2000

Tue Nov 28 13:18:26 2000 - stop being such a f*cken bitch. It is your types of comments that are definitely **not** positive. Grow up.
Tue Nov 28 13:31:22 2000

So he suggested MG do more parties. Others suggested that may not be the right thing to do. And this kind of conversation is not allowed because...?
Tue Nov 28 13:46:44 2000

If the idea of MG doing more parties was a super idea it might have garnered a bit more support - especially if replies to people questioning the idea had been factual rather than emotive. But once more we see that the sins of the past have prevented further influence in the future.
Tue Nov 28 13:53:25 2000

I'm with biteme. well said!. What's the point if you can't say what you want.There's some very one sided stuff going on here.
Tue Nov 28 13:54:05 2000

I'm with biteme. well said!. What's the point if you can't say what you want.There's some very one sided stuff going on here.
Tue Nov 28 13:54:10 2000

I have a feeling that this wall will soon be closed down again for a week until we "learn the behave properly". .... but then what's going to happen to the promoters who have no more place to bitch about their competition?
Tue Nov 28 13:57:10 2000

"Set up your own board" I believe "new magic" tried and was done in by the gay maffia.
Tue Nov 28 13:57:15 2000

I was refering the "pink"board.
Tue Nov 28 13:59:53 2000

So MG gets beaten on their own unlevel playing field. I never thought I'd see the day. I suppose they would want to close it down. Give everyone a moment to come to their senses and forget about the path of destruction that they have left through the (thanks to them) non-existent "gay community" that they constantly purport to be a creative part of.
Tue Nov 28 14:07:02 2000 Duplicate deleted.

I can't believe that I'm defending MG but here goes ...... Panther (the person who supplies this board) has nothing to do with MG. He regularly closes walls down when the postings degenerates into bitchinesss. And more often than not it is this wall that gets shut down.

I say bring in a login system before you can post so that we know who is posting which bitchiness and how many times a day they do it.
Tue Nov 28 14:13:01 2000

Well with some pple you can tell that already because they've got a slow computer and they accidently press the submit button twice. Or they're caught in a temporal causality loop.
Tue Nov 28 14:14:32 2000

"....I was refering the "pink"board...." same thing!
Tue Nov 28 14:22:10 2000

"...... Panther (the person who supplies this board)".....and you know this because????
Tue Nov 28 14:25:45 2000

Panther may have nothing to do with MG but the spats do tend to go MG's way. And to close down this board now would be further evidence of the same. So close it. We won't be surprised.
Tue Nov 28 14:28:33 2000

Just like the free fm vs out fm closure? just like the bi debate closure?
Tue Nov 28 14:30:28 2000

Sure you won't be surprised. But you sure as hell will be mad when you have to bitch about your competition the old fashioned way. ie. out in the open with no anonymity.
Tue Nov 28 14:36:30 2000

Personal abuse deleted.

Just proving the point.
Tue Nov 28 15:03:15 2000

Wouldn't it be great. Putting faces and names to words.
Tue Nov 28 15:20:19 2000

"Sure you won't be surprised..." actually, I'd be happy to see the day.
Tue Nov 28 15:31:31 2000

That's why you post here huh? If you really believed that we wouldn't be having this discussion because you wouldn't be here!!!
Tue Nov 28 17:23:01 2000

why are we discussingn the philosophies of nothingness ?
Tue Nov 28 17:41:04 2000

because we just like the bitch here and bitching really is about nothing.
Tue Nov 28 18:09:53 2000

One so young should not be so bitter 'bite me' - you give youself away!
Tue Nov 28 18:21:16 2000

The couple of times I have put faces to nicks they have all been very nice people (mind you I have also met some very nice annonymous people!!!!)
BND - Tue Nov 28 19:13:15 2000

Definitely a gay man - It is trendy to say you didn't enjoy a party. This board only sees bitches becaue if *anyone* makes a positive comment they get shot down. Look at the Sleaze Wall # 3 and you will see it is mostly positive except for 2 main complaints.

biteme - I do not believe I have deleted comments against SGLMG that were "non-abusive". I try to be fair.

Tue Nov 28 14:25:45 2000 - I have stated my association with SGLMG, and a number of the people on here that know me know that association also. I volunteer regularly to bump-in community parties. I know a lot of people at SGLMG. I am a member of SGLMG. I hold no other post at SGLMG.
Panther - Tue Nov 28 19:21:26 2000

Panther - You do not need to justify yourself.Pinkboard is "your" creation.The people that critisise you or accuse you of anything can simply go to hell.Simple as that.I personally appreciate all the effort you put into the running of this site,its a pity other sour people cant get the grasp of that.
Countdown boy - Tue Nov 28 19:36:48 2000

What is this nonsense that the MG parties are no good/poorly attended/bad parties etc etc? Didn't you people read all of the many ** positive ** comments about Sleaze Ball? The one that was sold out. MG is the best thing we have in Sydney. Some of you just don't know how lucky we are to have it. Without it, we'd be just like Melbourne (winks while making gratuitous bitchy swipe at Melbourne) And if we did ever lose MG, many of you who foolishly bag it in a pathetic attempt to sound trendy, would realise too late just how wonderful it is. BTW, Panther, please don't buy into the generalisation that this Wall is full bitches making negative comments. Some of us bitches say lots of positive things as well.
TW - Tue Nov 28 21:35:22 2000

Theres my soul sister TW doing her bit for the power of positive commentary - gawd love ya girl :P
A>D - Tue Nov 28 22:09:37 2000

First off, I confess, I do hold a position within mg, but I can tell you, "just a boy"s proposal for more parties by mg is not one that's got origins or support in that organisation. The reasons are simple. Because our events are so reliant on volunteers, there's a real risk of burning out that precious resource which allows us to plow as much $ as possible back into non-profit events like Parade & Launch as well as the semi profitable Festival. Promoters of parties know that putting on big events is both exhausting & financially unpredictable. The queer dance market is now much better supplied with clubs, medium sized parties and other annual big events like Pride, Inquisition, Hand in Hand, Harbour, and our Arrivals Party, than its ever been, even in the halcyon Hordern years. And MG is dependent on the goodwill of a limited community for its ongoing support of our events through attendance. To risk that support, (and our volunteer base) by oversupplying a well-catered-for market, would be a foolish gamble with what has taken decades to establish. Contrary to impressions given here, mg also enjoys an excellent relationships with commercial promoters & venues and together we share a talented pool of entertainment professionals that includes djs, lighting, sound, production, stage mgmt, performers etc. Any attempt to 'monopolise' either this pool, or the market would understandably damage those relationships irrevocably. MG doesn't need such a damaging revenue source(at best theoretic), the headaches(guaranteed) or the loss of hard earned goodwill from the magnificent armies that create and attend our biggest events.
~!@#$%^ - Tue Nov 28 22:18:21 2000

Thank you. Can you spell this out to the rest of the MG folks?
Tue Nov 28 22:57:09 2000

The aid trust is setting up a Melbourne office secretly with Danny Vidasz at the helm.I don't think it is a good idea because terrence trethowan has too many enemies so we hear.We would not want the community to waste money would we? Although the rent is paid by Danny.
Sydney Boy - Tue Nov 28 23:33:52 2000

The Victorian Aids Council does not condone this development. Apparently the globalization strategy implemented by Terrence will not threaten the Aids Trust, because Terrence is so hated by Sydney and Melbourne and probably Ansett.
good luck - Tue Nov 28 23:41:54 2000

94 to go
Wed Nov 29 0:14:30 2000

Sorry to sound naive, but how many halls are there at Pride?
Wed Nov 29 1:05:31 2000

2 halls (Dome & Hordern)& a tent.
Wed Nov 29 1:27:02 2000

Potentially libelous message deleted.

And the DJ's playing the most popular format (commercial) have been allocated the tent . Where's the logic in that ?
Its Criminal !!! - Wed Nov 29 8:18:51 2000

~!@#$%^ - I think that if this is true and if there were some kind of generic statement of direction re it from MG, you would find a lot of party boys who have been annoyed by MGs tactics with smaller parties in the past returning their support to MG.
Wed Nov 29 8:33:46 2000

and todays bitchy topic is ......
Wed Nov 29 9:16:04 2000

Wed Nov 29 8:33:46 2000 well said. I could possibly be one of them.
lightbulb - Wed Nov 29 9:29:31 2000

Saying that you dont like MG is paramount to treason.Why do you all whinge and carry on about MG and yet are *not* prepared to do anything about it ? I bet hardly *any* of you bothered to go to the AGM.I bet hardly *any* of you have bothered to try to get to know the people at MG in an attempt to be elected onto one of its committees.And I Bet hardly *any* of you whining moaning whinging bitter people actually do *care* about MG
sad sad sad people - Wed Nov 29 9:41:14 2000

Totally unnecessary personal abuse deleted. Submitted from connect.com.au.

**** nye eve **** live **** b(IF)tek **** plus seymour butz & special guests **** cheap tix, big room and f.off sound **** yay! Tix avail next week
Wed Nov 29 12:22:01 2000

Country cousin, look at some of the later "ministry of sound" cd's....the last release by 'Jason Midro' is very good, and it comes with a warm up cd by "Captin Kirk" also a good dj but a different style......also try to find the mardi gras cd with sveta and Luke Leal.....is also very good!If you dont have any luck with these email me and I'l make a cd for you...good luck.
Frisky Rocks. - Wed Nov 29 12:32:06 2000

"sad sad sad people - Wed Nov 29 9:41:14 2000"wrong wrong wrong I've been in volved with mardi gras for ten years on and off they keep pissing me off with crap ....so for the record I have in the past be very very involved. As have a lot of younger sydney gay people.
Wed Nov 29 12:39:53 2000

Country Cousin - try contacting the ICE party people. They produced a double promo CD for the last party, that includes the exact style played in the Dome - same DJs, everything. It was getting round the clock play time in Bayswater Fitness and Mephisto, and is fantastic.
Wed Nov 29 12:42:44 2000

So TW you have a problem with Melbourne. Well your loss. On NYE we have Sasha/Digweed/Deep Dish/Satoshie Tomi on one bill. Dimitri/Sanchez/Carter on another. You find me another city anywhere in the world on the same night with better line ups. Humph
lovin' it. - Wed Nov 29 12:50:40 2000

I wonder how they will co-ordinate Sasha and Digweed playing at separate venues (miles apart) in Sydney on NYE, then get them down to Melbourne to play there the same night (or vice verse). And how unfair that they are not playing together in Sydney. I wouldn't hesitate in going.
Nat - Wed Nov 29 12:56:41 2000

Country cousin: please ignore the unnecessarily rude posting under yours. I would suggest that you check out any of the Trade CD's, a number of the Reactivate CDs from Volume 9 onwards, any of the Tinrib CDs (check out Tinrib's website), the recent CD from UK DJ Fergie and various Global Underground CD's (not all of them). Lab 4 have a couple of CDs out that are full on bangin' but may be difficult to get hold of. My personal favourite at the moment is the recent Renaissance CD by UK DJ Dave Seaman (I think its sub-titled Awakening). More deep trance than hard house although I think I heard a number of the tracks on there over Sleaze weekend. A lot of these CDs would be available from Reachin Records in Sydney. If not in stock, they can order.
Trying to help - Wed Nov 29 13:06:56 2000

No Holes Barred #3 is on saturday December 16th. Interested perverts should call Craig on 0416 392 361.
octopussy - Wed Nov 29 13:27:18 2000

Thanks guys. What was with the post underneath mine ? I know I should be used to it but why does some vile bitch **** have to do that ? Thank you for the recommendations and thank you for being polite.
Country cousin - Wed Nov 29 13:52:43 2000

I cant beleive that post following Many thanks. This person asked a reasonable question, thankfully was answered by a number of posts without any acid comments.
Be nice - Wed Nov 29 13:58:26 2000

Have tickets for Frisky's New Year's Day gig gone on sale yet?
Melbourne Boy - Wed Nov 29 14:35:21 2000

~!@#$%^ - Tue Nov 28 22:18:21 2000 - You wrote "First off, I confess, I do hold a position within mg, but I can tell you, .........". So does the missing "'nt" go at "don't hold a position" or "I cann't tell you"?? Not a criticism. Just want to clarify what you were saying.
Wed Nov 29 14:51:53 2000

he does hold a position at mg and actually works very hard in the area he works in
Wed Nov 29 16:02:06 2000

*** this thursday **** Prop *** live @ kooky (think Tortose & freaky percussion) live @ kooky **** $5 11pm - 5am *** 77 william street ***
Wed Nov 29 16:05:43 2000

Wed Nov 29 14:51:53 2000 - getting a little pedantic aren't you? no need to be nasty.
Wed Nov 29 16:44:20 2000

Yeah the Sasha/Digweed timing must be pretty tight.
Wed Nov 29 16:46:50 2000

"by oversupplying a well-catered-for market, would be a foolish gamble " - did you get that "just a boy" (without being bitchy)....it's and way to risky...not enough money in it.
Wed Nov 29 16:53:55 2000

sure honey. without being bitchy...
Wed Nov 29 17:17:49 2000

Wed Nov 29 16:44:20 2000 - I really want to clarify if s/he is or isn't on the board. I suspect he isn't, but I wanted to make sure either way. And I wasn't being nasty. that's why I wrote "Not a criticism. Just want to clarify what you were saying." . Christ don't people read **all** of the post before they start bitching back? (yes, that bit was supposed to be nasty )
Wed Nov 29 17:23:21 2000

*message to Lovin It* if I get home and you still havent replied to my email, you'll be in big trouble.
El Panteez - Wed Nov 29 17:25:11 2000

One so young should not be so bitter - you give youself away!
Wed Nov 29 18:04:52 2000

Long Live Oasis...the new party to endure gay frolic and fun in the sun in Noosa....with no political agenda
political pig - Wed Nov 29 18:52:15 2000

Political Pig - take some advice, you are best not to promote Oasis on Pinkboard. At least one of the promoters is actually heavily involved in Melbourne politics (and increasingly Sydney)and the party will be ripped to shreds here like no other party has in the past. The general population does not read this, and it is them that you want to attend. You don't want Pinkboard-generated negativity filtering to the general populous. Try getting some editorial from the gay media, you'll actually get somewhere rather than losing potential attendees.
Concerned & Experienced - Wed Nov 29 19:17:56 2000
This is the opinion of the poster.

Apparently Queensland has just passed all anti-gay laws outlawing homophobia...................................
concerned - Wed Nov 29 21:30:37 2000

Don't Forget Redemption this weekend in Melbourne. All net proceeds going to the David Williams fund (Vic Aids) with guest DJ Rob Davis, Peter MacNamara and Queen Martine.The afterevent is a full twist called Salvation featuring john Portelli and Rob Davis at the Viper Room
Experienced - Wed Nov 29 21:36:39 2000

Sounds really good, I hear the leather queens are really cute down there...where do you buy tickets for these events?
sick of sydney - Wed Nov 29 21:39:47 2000

Personal abuse deleted.

Wow sick of Sydney. Three minutes after the Redemption post. Not bad!
The propaganda machine should leave more time if it is to be believable! - Wed Nov 29 22:12:25 2000

I've just cum out of rertirement from the scene and last thursday went to Blue at Lizard and was really impressed. This venue had the groove talents of Alex Taylor and others and it was fantastic, with it's netted off area to chill out in, which is larger than any other club in the Getto,and an inpromtu strip from some really out there person, every one was having a great time, I think too many of us are asking for too much and just tneed to get back to basics and do what clubing is all about, having fun and not reading too much into things, if you don't like it don't go, don't comment. Too much crap is coming over the wall. Just enjoy your lives and discover new things. Check out Blue, as I did and you may be in for a surprise
MQ - Wed Nov 29 22:48:50 2000

Wed Nov 29 14:53 & 17:23- The "n't" isn't missing. I *do* hold a position, and, hopefully, I *can* tell you something about mg views on the subject. It was a bit confusing because of my use of the word "but". I was trying to say that I come from mg but this proposal definitely didn't...
~!@#$%^ - Wed Nov 29 23:35:52 2000

Messages promoting drugs deleted.

Dear Mischief Maker....you are right..It is a plan and out of the jurisdiction of Sydney hags ..tired and bitter. I'd much prefer to look at Jennifer Lopez than a bunch of parochial queens..besides most people in Sydney are ugly and Oasis will be full of Tasmanians, Melbournians, Queenslanders and internationals..who cares if Sydney comes at all..but they will
political pig - Thu Nov 30 7:15:04 2000

In the year 2001..Nostradamus said that the world would change as we know it..and along comes Oasis..a Gay Mecca..for all.The Anti-Christ has come to Sydney to show the light.......Hark..who goes there...great name for Ark by the way..............................
jennifer Lopez - Thu Nov 30 7:42:35 2000

MASH..opening night is the 16th December (saturday night).. Dj's on the night are Mark Murphy, Thao, Mandy Rollins, Reiki Aura & 2Hard. It's at 111 Regent St, Chippendale..going through till 6am..Tix are $15 on the door :-))
Thu Nov 30 8:56:47 2000

For all those enquiring minds here is the news you have all been waiting for.....

Indigo - Perfect day 2000 (UK Release date 4/12/2000)

This track has been re-released and remixed as a tribute to the lead singer of Indigo who was tragically killed in a car accident one year ago.This is to be the last ever Indigo release.Track listing is as follows...
1)Phatkatz 2000 radio edit
2)Original mix edit
3)Original mix
4)Phatkatz 2000 club mix
5)Almighty Definitive 2000 mix
6)Dataluxe 2000 mix

Hope you all enjoy it,and I hope to hear JoJo play the new mixes at Frisky on 1/1/2001 (giggle)!!!

Indigo is a shade of blue - Thu Nov 30 10:15:33 2000

Now Showing 'Blue', Starring David Smith, Sharon Brand and Bill Morley. Co-Starring House Diva Bertha and her Freaky Disco Bunnies.Guest Appearences by Bongo Boy Tony and The Blue Unicorn. Tonight at The Lizard Lounge 10pm-late
blue is a shade of blue - Thu Nov 30 14:25:24 2000

Mr Panties - will you spank me?
lovin' it - Thu Nov 30 14:26:23 2000

Hooray Hooray Hooray ! New Mixes of Indigo means another 2 years of JoJo's Perfect days.What fantastic news for everyone that is, i'm gonna go out a rush buy me a copy :)
its just a perfect day (but whats all that thunder n lightning about ?) - Thu Nov 30 15:41:50 2000

Only two years?
Thu Nov 30 15:52:08 2000

jennifer Lopez Take that Madonna T-Shirt OFf and whats with the Klyie Hot pants. get a new look.
All Serial Arkist the time in now! - Thu Nov 30 17:52:41 2000

Dear concerned and experienced, Can you be so sure that the general public doesn't read this? I can asure you that OS is very much aware of Pinkboard and regularly check on it's contents. We are in fact broadcasting our domestics to the rest of the world on a regular basis.
Thu Nov 30 18:01:02 2000

I am from overseas and i go to Frisky because it is the most well known party in Sydney..JoJo is a very good promoter and he knows how to network the community.....we have heard Syney is a mess and it is because of all the crap that socialist societies dish out to their tall poppies...long long and grow live JO JO.
Chad from Ohio - Thu Nov 30 18:45:57 2000

We are a managing agency that hires DJs in Melbourne for Sydney and Queensland events.Are you a DJ and are sick of being boycotted at supposed commnunity events? Take control of your life and submit a tape or cd to our organisation.Gigs at Redemption, Salvation, Janes' Bar - Dome, Oasis are available plus others ..We have no agenda but good music..............call me now on o409097707 Gerard .........
disgruntled - Thu Nov 30 18:50:06 2000

Ultra Sex is here...the New Gay and Lesbian Party for New Years Eve has redefined the semantics of our people......Redemption and Girl Bar provide an adequate queer space at the capsule nightspot in celebration of the future sentiment of our community. DJS will be Queen Martine, john portelli, kdj. sarah and guy uppiah....Girl Bar and Redemption are uniting the future for Melbourne......................................
kevin Hall - Thu Nov 30 19:30:18 2000

Ultra Sex.................the ultra orthodox event.....for ticket enquiries call Kira Seymour on ....0419139283
kevin Hall - Thu Nov 30 19:32:33 2000

I was thinking of leaving Sydney for New Years Eve and going to this party, but I will be definitely in Sydney for the real future......Frisky The Future of clubbing in Sydney............
on the hour - Thu Nov 30 19:55:13 2000

Sex at the parties? What do you think? Just a bunch of disgusting sleazy guys who shouldn't be catered for, or guys who want the chance to be themselves and satisfy their desires on the one or two nights a year when it should be OK to do so. (read the letter in SSO this week for background). I'm interested in any opinions. Fess up Sydney-how many of you like to get a blow job in the Dome at parties??
Little Sparrow - Thu Nov 30 19:57:37 2000

Dear Sparrow be a clever bird and boycott all community events..for a start only smart people go to them, they usually are autonomous, they don't need media adds propping up a moralistic cause..and usually they are fashion leaders..take joy take pride take action ..don't go to community events in Sydney......only support private events........
community member - Thu Nov 30 20:13:50 2000

"On the Hour" - Hmmm - setting up Frisky against Redemption...given the people suddenly active on this board at the moment, this could provide a very interesting tangent - Sydney vs Melbounre when a Melbounrne protagonist is given regular jobs at Frisky. I like it, very clever!
Homer - Thu Nov 30 20:41:42 2000

Fwisky is not the furture of clubbing ! what a ridiculous statement to make. it's as cutting edge as a rusty axe. Lovin' It, of course I'll spank you. I only hurt the ones I love.
El Panteez - Thu Nov 30 20:49:45 2000

Frisky is the future in clubbing fool and you have no idea because you are still living in the dark ages if you are still grinding axes
future girl - Thu Nov 30 22:04:01 2000

Frisky has nothing to do with Redemption except for the fact that both promoters are best friends and have known each other for ten years.
susan - Thu Nov 30 22:19:21 2000

Apparently one particular dj in Melbourne is changing his name to JON JON.....................this is the future of clubbing
future reak - Thu Nov 30 22:22:19 2000

Can someone get over all these bitchings and start talking about real things like the host of community events that Sydney is so famed for....what is Mardi Gras doing? are they doing another fantabulous party next year..will there be lots of cueing, lots of handbag, separate spaces, a great vip area where you have to pay for food, will there be a vip entrance for the supposed vip list, will there be lots of complimentary tickets sold outside the studios, will there be 30000 people there, will there be more people from overseas than last year, will there be more female djs than ever, will there, will there, will there, will there, will there
commu nity event boy - Thu Nov 30 22:31:30 2000

as a tribute to the dead Kennedy? How Jello Biafra of him...
Thu Nov 30 22:32:38 2000

Stop this Frisky vs Redemption nonsense. Enough damage has been done - shame on you Sydney, you've already inflicted Rob Davis on us this weekend. Please, please no Whitney.
lovin' it - Thu Nov 30 22:36:19 2000

Mmmm Dead Kennedies - Holiday in Cambodia
lovin' it - Thu Nov 30 22:37:47 2000

Can someoene tell me the name ofthe spunky female dj who was playing at the Phoenix bar on Monday morning who was wearing the madonna hat and playing really funky music? she should be playing at community dance parties............................
molly - Thu Nov 30 22:40:25 2000

I've been very quiet about Frisky for a long time, but with comments like Frisky being the future of clubbing, I don't know that I can contain myself ....
TW - Thu Nov 30 22:44:17 2000

Chiclet was playing at Feenix on monday morning. I dunno where she got the hat from ?
Mr Panties - Thu Nov 30 23:18:18 2000

countdown boy wants to wish everyone a very happy 1st day of Summer.Also I want to give you all a pinch and a punch for the first of the month.dont forget 92 days to go !
counting ! - Fri Dec 1 0:02:18 2000

christ you waited up till just after midnight to post that?????
Fri Dec 1 0:50:07 2000

We need to find Countdown Boy some really important work to do to put him to some good use instead of wasting his youth away here on the internet. There must be some organisation that could use someone with good accounting skills. come on, anything out there? ... at least let's get him laid properly. Maybe that'll relieve his OCD. Let's all pitch and help this poor lost soul. It's not like you've got your own kids to worry about.
Fri Dec 1 0:57:26 2000

countdown boy can look after himself quite adequately thank you .... thanks for caring guys ...i love you all ...kiss kiss hug hug kiss...mmm,maybe a BF wouldnt go astray !
Countdown Boy :) - Fri Dec 1 1:05:10 2000

Ive heard Rob Davis Luke Leal and JO JO and Jon Jon and Gluck at Frisky and I think they should travel the party all over the world. I am from Melbourne and I am going to Redemption to hear Rob Vavis and as we have the worlds best clubs here I think I know what I am talking about as I am an authority on the subject....leave Jo Jo alone and let him get on with your lives.
music lover - Fri Dec 1 7:35:37 2000

I think Queen Martine is the best female DJ in the world and she would shit on all the females in the community scene in Sydney...............................if you wanna hear a real good sort..she is the one and shes got real attitude,,,,Long Live the Queen..........................................
abdication. - Fri Dec 1 7:39:09 2000

Heaven help us now that this Melbourne person has discovered pinkboard and is going to dominate this wall with all his boring dribble about boring melbourne (this is my opinion).
Fri Dec 1 8:07:16 2000

Dear Little Sparrow - haven't you ever heard of speed dick ? Their choice but how they ever do sex on drugs is beyond me.
Miniscule - Fri Dec 1 8:49:44 2000

Viagra lovey,Viagra !!!!!
Fri Dec 1 9:13:52 2000

Can anyone give me any websites with good articles on recreational drugs????
The Doctor - Fri Dec 1 11:08:32 2000

Wish there was a Summer Party happening at the Alexandria Basketball Stadium this weekend. Anyone else remember a very coked Belinda Carlisle performing there? What year was that?
If I could turn back time - Fri Dec 1 13:05:33 2000

Ahhhhhhhhh - Summer Parties at Alexandria. What great parties they were ( except 1 but wont go into that will we Mr Weiss ). Sorry cant remember the year for Belinda Carlisle, bit of a blurrrr now. Wish some organiser would start using Wharf 8 ( not into the funkhouse music but also not knocking it ). Love parties that size. Thanks for the tip about Viagra , but really we spend so much money on "goods" and outfits for a dance party, I'd rather spend $20 later for the steamies.
Memories - Fri Dec 1 14:09:57 2000

Belinda Carlisle was 1992 - I think from memory. The late, and great, Peter MacDonnell produced - may we remember all our great community people today - World Aids Day.
Fri Dec 1 14:13:13 2000

re the last post - ***YeS*** !!!! I remember that party - Poor Belinda Carlile trying to sing "Heaven Is a place on earth" - That was in 1994 - yes we are getting old ! Wasnt the Alexandria Basketball stadium just "the" best venue - how sad we cant do parties there anymore :(
summer parties were tops ! - Fri Dec 1 14:17:53 2000

Was that the same summer party at alexandria where they had that crazy replica of a boat carried all the way thru the dance floor crowd to the tune of "Get Here" by Tracy Ackerman featuring Q ?
Fri Dec 1 15:17:41 2000

I hated the Alexandria basketball stadium. They did little to dress the place up - they wouldn't even bother covering up the basketball rings.
Nat - Fri Dec 1 16:30:14 2000

Little Sparrow-anyone wishing to have sex at a party should have the decency to go home instead of forcing me and my friends to watch. I'm gay, but I'm sick of explaining to my straight friends (who have to see that sort of shit at parties) that not all gay men are filthy sleazes.
Go home and shag - Fri Dec 1 17:02:57 2000

Go home and shag - Fri Dec 1 17:02:57 2000 - who cares what you think ? Dont bring your judgement calls to G&L dance parties - its not the place to get all "hoyti toyti".If I wasnt mistaken ,those sort of "judgement" calls are the sort of thing i would expect from the Fred Nile's of this world.
Fri Dec 1 17:33:07 2000

Who cares what your straight friends think about us...why dont you take them to Mardi Gras,,,,,thats a really good straight party...for all the rats that need to see the freaks of Sydney
Australian community - Fri Dec 1 18:19:56 2000

Many weekends I go out with my friends, who happen to be straight, to local pubs, bars etc. I have never found myself in a situation where I have had to watch an orgy of heterosexual 40+s grope each other because they couldn't wait to get home. I've got nothing against having sex, but on a dancefloor! There are plenty of other places to indulge-Kens, Bodyline etc. MG should not have to tolerate guys who just go to the party to have sex. Sorry if that sounds judgemental, but I'm sure most partygoers agree that the parties are for dancing, not F***ing.
go shag at home - Fri Dec 1 18:40:16 2000

go shag at home aka fred nile ....get real will you ! Gay dance parties have sex as part of its "menu" for as long as gay boys have been going to parties.If you dont like it go and dance somewhere else - who said your rules are right ? Stop playing God
Fri Dec 1 19:02:31 2000

As far as I'm concerned the only thing that makes me different from all my (straight) friends and workmates is who I choose to root. As these parties are a celebration of "Gay and Lesbian" culture I choose to celebrate that culture. I have no problem being discrete just provide a suitable area, preferably not the toilets. That done, easy, problem solved I'm (very) happy and no one is ofended.
BND - Fri Dec 1 19:32:50 2000

And to The Doctor - Fri Dec 1 11:08:32 2000 try www.erowid.org
BND - Fri Dec 1 19:42:17 2000

The good thing about frisky is that you dont need sex space s because the whole party is an insatiable sex party of beautiful boys.
Frisk sex lover - Fri Dec 1 20:11:32 2000

I cant wait come to frisky to have a fabulous frolic
sexplosive - Fri Dec 1 20:22:10 2000

Echo-co deleted.

Oasis after Mardi Gras Oasis after mardi gras oasis after mardi gras oasis after mardi gras oasis after mardi gras oasis after mardi gras oasis after mardigras oasis after mardi gras
Fri Dec 1 21:14:52 2000

Is there an echo in here ? here here
Fri Dec 1 23:48:31 2000

13 weeks to go :)
Sat Dec 2 2:18:26 2000

14 weeks to go
gh - Sat Dec 2 8:27:03 2000

whats happening in 14 weeks? whats happenig in thirteen weeks ..............is it the harbour party...beacause I cant wait for that
community member - Sat Dec 2 8:29:06 2000

rumour has it that Kate Monroe or Munroe will be asked to perform at Melbournes biggest gay and lesbian festival.......The Midsumma Festival.......in February....
mgmadness - Sat Dec 2 8:34:47 2000

Isnt it just "sad" how Melbournes "biggest gay and lesbian festival" just pales into insignificance next to Sydney's Mardi Gras ? That just says it all in this boys opinion.And re earlier posts,MG is in 13 weeks I can hardly wait after the stiring job MG did at Sleaze,but what the hell is in 14 weeks ? Personally I dont care cause the weekend after MG i'll still be in a coma ! Where's that countdown boy when you need him most ?
JP - Sat Dec 2 9:10:02 2000

OH Dear !! What a freudient slip of a spelling error ! In my last post the word stiring should be sterling. Oops !
JP - Sat Dec 2 9:15:25 2000

Go back to school and get a real jo sterling
someone who cares - Sat Dec 2 9:36:34 2000

can we please not have this Sydney Vs Melbourne bullshit !
Mr Panties - Sat Dec 2 9:44:51 2000

It has been announced that kevin hall and queen martine will be competing in the gay games..kevin hall synchronised diving and queen martine in the hurdles let the games begin and let us entertain you..............................................
gh - Sat Dec 2 9:55:04 2000

sydney may as well be against melbourne and for that matter anywhere else because they seem to excell at being against each other
concerned community - Sat Dec 2 10:01:17 2000

i need frisky tickets now.............................
adelaide - Sat Dec 2 10:07:18 2000

has anyone read the Australian newspaper? saturday today .The pink dollar and the demise of Satellite..apparently there may be a really good story coming up about the politicisation of certain community members with regard to Terrence and his community group....stay posted or maybe cross to mainstream media.....................................................
kate - Sat Dec 2 10:47:14 2000

you can get frisky tickets at all usual outlets and if you cant you have to know the right people.........................
spiller - Sat Dec 2 10:49:19 2000

what a shame that the pink dollar has turned on itself...maybe this is just the start of the pink invasion of globalisation strategies....it's about time there was some uniformity.
gl - Sat Dec 2 10:51:39 2000

I agree. The gay community is just becoming a niche market of nothingness and it is only a matter of time that the fittest will survive...that is to say a new mafia will take over
bongiorno - Sat Dec 2 10:54:11 2000

we have just landed from outer space and we have been watching the gay world in Australia and believe it is time for a change..life was not meant to be a bitchy rat race on earth. It was meant to be a haven where certain members of the community were to lead the way. It is quite clear that the bitching and politics in the community needs to be eradicated.
extra terrestial - Sat Dec 2 11:04:04 2000

ET phone home
pluto - Sat Dec 2 11:31:17 2000

The article in the Australian has got the gay world jolting
jilted - Sat Dec 2 11:58:37 2000

Did you know that grudges are the best way to turn passion into a positive outcome for the community
political pig - Sat Dec 2 12:07:12 2000

Can someone tell me about pride nye
elsbeth - Sat Dec 2 12:22:22 2000

The above 12 messages were posted from the same IP address - Panther

It's being held on the 31st of December.
hope this helps ;) - Sat Dec 2 12:35:42 2000

Pride New years eve is being held on Friday 12 January 2001 at Bondi beach RSL club.Tickets $550 each (no concessions) and a blue light disco DJ will be provided on the night.Rush to get your tickets they are selling fast.
Pride Centre - Sat Dec 2 17:17:31 2000

re: the above posting. . . what a load of rubbish. Gavan hasnt played at a Blue Light Disco for years !
El Panteez - Sat Dec 2 17:46:22 2000

panteez - the final frontier - these are the voyages of the starship Panteez - his ongoing mission - to explore new nightclubs and dance parties - to critisise and make bitchy comments about everything - to boldly go where everyone has already been before!
janeway - Sat Dec 2 18:48:51 2000

what the f_ck does that mean ?
Chiclet (l_ck it) - Sat Dec 2 21:50:40 2000

The mafia???
Sun Dec 3 13:47:06 2000

If the Catholic Church has 1 welfare group the catholic wlfare bureau then why does the gay community have only one million...aids trust, mardi gras, pride, booby goldsmith, also, midsumma.Can the federal government pass a law about this bullshit now
non community member - Sun Dec 3 14:35:40 2000

we have explosive
the Stalker - Sun Dec 3 18:53:03 2000

Where are the alternative New Year's Eve parties in Melbourne being held this year.
Sun Dec 3 19:17:12 2000

Chiclet~do you dj?
Creamed - Sun Dec 3 19:44:28 2000

Offensive messages deleted.

Chiclet is more of an MC than a DJ
El Panteez - Sun Dec 3 22:43:03 2000

chiclet rocks
melbourne - Mon Dec 4 0:06:37 2000

www.chiclet.com
#1 fan - Mon Dec 4 0:56:58 2000

So was that a 'yes'to chiclet being a DJ?
Mon Dec 4 11:20:25 2000

it may not be an exclusively gay party but if you love deep house then disco kitchen is back at the metro this sat. a mixed crowd and decor(hopefully as much as the last ones) i hope their drag queen is doing the door again!!!
disco duck - Mon Dec 4 11:35:36 2000

Thanks BND, that was the site I have been looking for!!
The Doctor - Mon Dec 4 12:38:57 2000

What is going to be the theme of the Mardi gras party for 2001?
visitor - Mon Dec 4 12:48:47 2000

Lanny K & Miss Yetti are doing an 8 hour soundtrack for the next No Holes Barred party Sat Dec 16. Shows will be by Buck Naked, Sadistic Encryption, Ultra and Alexandra, plus lots of public participation filth. The secret venue has to be seen to be believed. For info call Craig/Tom on 0416 392 361.
octopussy - Mon Dec 4 15:44:19 2000

*** 2001:an electro oddysey(see you so much later 2000) *** nye *** live Biftek * Dark Network * artificial * Clone & Djs toupee, seymour butz & more *** freaky shows & $30 tix *** yay! more info email biftek@hotmail.com ****
Mon Dec 4 16:37:23 2000

In breaking news today Free Fm has been totally exonerated and cleared of all alledged charges and breaches in the internal investigation held by the ABA.The report by the ABA will go on to say now that Free has been found to be completely above board in all its managerial and financial dealings that Free Fm should feel confident (whilst stopping short of making a committment/promise) in its expectations that a full time licence may be granted when the ABA makes its final ruling in May 2001....This is good news for our community given that the ABA during its submission hearings a few months ago was totally unimpressed with both gay and lesbian radio station aspirants.
Brian Henderson - Mon Dec 4 17:17:15 2000

Luke played a great set at ARQ last night. Tired as I was he kept me there dancing till 5.30 this morning!!!
BND - Mon Dec 4 20:47:53 2000

Well I was there with BND @ ark last nite and we had a great time....as always Luke rocked....dosn't mater where that boy plays we all have fun as did all the crowd wich was way packed for a sunday nite ,even at 530.."thanks Luke for the fun times you give us!...even saw the infamous "JaJa" was there...seen dancing on the dance floor.....no"Perfect Day" insite but we all had fun...which is what its all about....cant wait for NYE!
FriskyRocks - Mon Dec 4 22:17:18 2000

Luke might of played a great set but for gods sake i cant wait for Greg Boladian to get back from England cause Greg blows Luke out of the water in my opinion
missing greg - Mon Dec 4 22:30:57 2000

Luke could do better if only he applied more effort technical ability rather than trying to be the class clown.
the above is meant to be humorous. - Mon Dec 4 22:38:30 2000

the above messages are from the same id number
gl - Mon Dec 4 23:03:05 2000

Um, I only posted one message "Luke could do better if only he applied more effort technical ability rather than trying to be the class clown. the above is meant to be humorous. - Mon Dec 4 22:38:30 2000" Don't know who the other is from
Mon Dec 4 23:10:34 2000

uhhh, "id number" is not the same as "IP address". if you're gonna call a bluff, do your homework.
Mr Panties www.panties.com - Mon Dec 4 23:56:59 2000

88 days to go ! 88 days to go ! 88 days to go ! 88 days to go ! 88 days to go ! 88 days to go ! 88 days to go ! 88 days to go ! 88 days to go ! 88 days to go ! 88 days to go ! 88 days to go ! 88 days to go ! 88 days to go ! 88 days to go ! 88 days to go !
ever the counter - Tue Dec 5 0:27:57 2000

oh Panties, dont be such a tech-nerd !
Chiclet ( high school drop out ) - Tue Dec 5 10:20:08 2000

Mr Panties www.panties.com - Mon Dec 4 23:56:59 2000 - Mr Panties would best be reached at www.mardigras.com.au
Tue Dec 5 10:45:10 2000

BND and Frisky Rocks use the same ISP but the messages come from seperate machines at seperate locations on seperate accounts and most importantly from seperate people with independant opinions on topics (Frisky Rocks was mortified when I told him trance was dead!). I'm sure there is a conspiracy somewhere here but you'll just have to keep looking (or failing that just make one up it's so much more fun). lol
BND - Tue Dec 5 11:13:17 2000

Greg and Luke are both great!
Tue Dec 5 11:35:30 2000

Oh please...they're bothing boring sterotpyed DJ's, who stick to a formula and have no imagination in their style.
Tue Dec 5 11:44:47 2000
This is the opinion of the poster.

Oh please...they're bothing boring sterotpyed DJ's - HEY,lets get one thing straight in support of Greg Boladian. Greg is in no way sterotyped (see the way i spelled sterotyped correctly). Greg plays his euro trance at Arq and is highly popular in Sydney (which is why he was selected for the #1 DJ spot at sleaze aka closing the RHI - please take note of all the glowing reports about his performance at sleaze). This is not the only formular he plays.Maybe you should get out more and hear him at other venues.Yes Dear,he *does* play at more than one venue.Ive heard Greg play at many venues and am amazed at the variety he can dish up depending on the venue he plays at.He can play banging and/or Euro Trance to groovy house to camp handbag depending on the situation he is in.Greg is a personal friend and I think I know him well enough to state the *facts* about his DJ abilty which I rate extremely highly.So Mr anonymous please go away and stop your crap postings.
Cameron Green - Tue Dec 5 12:06:18 2000

Of course your a good friend Cameron, who else would defend his formula (see the way I spelt formula correctly).
Tue Dec 5 12:39:53 2000

Tue Dec 5 12:39:53 2000 - i see you still remains anonymous,how pathetic
Cameron Green - Tue Dec 5 13:36:42 2000

Coolio! B(if)tek play N.Y.E! Us lactose intolerant q's have to have somewhere to party too. Everyone gets a go!
Tue Dec 5 13:58:06 2000

There is a reason why Luke and Greg are arguably the most popular DJs on the gay scene. If they weren't able to move a crowd, they wouldn't be working several nights a week. Working to a formula, well don't most DJs working regular gigs? Sounds like their formulae are working! (Different formaulae for each night and crowd). I am sure they would be mortified to see that they have been set up in such a competitive manner on this in the last few days. Smells like a bitter DJ job to me! Any talented DJ would know that a formula leads to a crowd knowing what to expect when they attend a particular night, and the ARQ attendances on Sunday nights show they are hitting the nail on the head. I mght also add that both Greg and Luke have evolved their Sunday night styles over the last few weeks (especially after Sleaze), offering a new freshness and originality (fopr Sunday nights). It gets better each week as they experiment with new ideas. Care to argue on that? I'm up for the technicalities if you are!
Mara - Tue Dec 5 14:33:55 2000

More Arq advotorial
Tue Dec 5 14:37:02 2000
This is the opinion of the poster.

Actually, its Luke and Greg advotorial.
Mara - Tue Dec 5 14:50:48 2000

Well said Mara I agree,however I cant really comment on Leal cause I tend only to follow Greg around where he plays.I definitely think the two are not the same (similar but definitely not the same) in styles.Greg just "does it" for me more than Luke,thats all.Oh and I think Greg is technically the best DJ in Sydney by far re his mixing skills etc.
Cameron Green - Tue Dec 5 15:00:45 2000

*** Live **** deepchild **** this thursday @ kooky **** plus seymour butz & dj gemma.$5 77 william street
Tue Dec 5 15:16:21 2000

Let me suggest you get out a bit more than Cameron, and then you might actually recognise that mixing 32 beats in and out is not that hard, or even technical.
Tue Dec 5 15:17:22 2000

Tue Dec 5 15:17:22 2000 - some do it well,others havent got a clue,some are brilliant and then there is Boladian who does it better than anyone else
Tue Dec 5 15:23:23 2000

stop it ! I'm gonna piss my pants !
Chiclet - Tue Dec 5 17:22:56 2000

I know, it's just too exciting to think that Gregg does it better than anyone else!
Tue Dec 5 17:49:05 2000

Well, I must say that this is the first time in months I have checking Pinkboard more than once every couple of weeks! I agree that Greg (and Paul Goodyear) are the best technical DJs playing in gay/officially mixed clubs. Greg does not just mix 32 in and out. If you think he does, then you haven't actually watached or know the tracks being brought in, or you don't have an ear or appreciation for mixing. Not to mention his almost anal ability to work the EQ. There are a few DJs in Sydney that can't even mix on 32 in and out! Some can't beat mix at all. However, there is more tobeing an effective DJ than just mixing - track selection and programming I believe is more important. Anyway, Greg can do all effecively, Luke and Greg are different, and Luke can set up and mix tracks quicker than anyone I know.
Mara - Tue Dec 5 18:56:24 2000

look out for the launch of the Oasis cd ..around late January through Global Recordings. Compiled by Nick Whales and John Portelli. Track listings include much original Australian and international productions...to be launched at the Midsumma Festival in Melbourne 2001.
global recordings - Tue Dec 5 20:44:39 2000

Look at the crowds reaction to Greg at sleaze to see that he is greatly appreciated. Luke is also greatly appreciated by many people where he plays. If you dont like their styles then why dont u compliment the DJ's who's styles you like rather than dissing other DJ's. Bitter that u dont get as many gigs as these 2 get??
I'm just an average punter who knows what he likes! - Tue Dec 5 21:36:51 2000

whilst we are on the topic of fab gay dj's, we cant forget Mr Alex Taylor. A copy of 3d world this week is a must to see a picture of the man polishing his mirrorball with his Diva awards and bottle of gin on the coffee table. The ad is for Sat @ home - which as a friend and I found out last week is a refreshing change. I mean, it can be a bit young, but talk about fun!!!! A guy by the name of Peace Division was on last week, wow!! We had 2 much fun.. Saw 2 well known sisters there, one was working, the other there to party. It looks like some of us have picked up that home is a nice change for a saturday night - it surely beats Arq for atmosphere and general friendliness. (spelling..??) Anyway we will be back this weekend as uni is off and they have a massive line up from Thursday onwards including Peace Division again.
James - Tue Dec 5 22:51:12 2000

Yep, I was wondering when she would be writing about Alex. You took much longer than expected luv!
Tue Dec 5 22:55:51 2000

I know the person that bought that mirror ball for alex's birthday ! Hi Andrew W !
hehhee - Tue Dec 5 23:13:07 2000

I know the person that lived next door to the guy that helped drink the bottle of Gin. ---- yes, Peace Division rock !
El Panteez - Tue Dec 5 23:19:17 2000

Fwisky is not the furture of clubbing ! what a ridiculous statement to make. it's as cutting edge as a rusty axe. Lovin' It, of course I'll spank you. I only hurt the ones I love. El Panteez - Thu Nov 30 20:49:45 2000

Re the above

Dear El Panteez, We haven't seen you at Frisky for some time. Thankyou, you are not welcome. : )
Party Boys!!! - Tue Dec 5 23:35:43 2000

87 days to go (which is an unlucky 13 days short of 100)
superstitios countdown boy - Wed Dec 6 0:04:53 2000

Gees by saying that I enjoyed Lukes set at Arq on Sunday night does not mean that by default I don't like Gregs DJ'ing. A set he played at Frisky some time ago certainly piqued my interest in him. Since then I have gone out specifically to hear him play. As far as Alex is concerned he is also an excellent DJ (probably one of the best I have ever heard) it's a bit of a shame he isn't playing the scene as much as he used to.
BND - Wed Dec 6 0:18:18 2000

Alex Taylor is the DJ of Sydney..far too professional for any of you lot, and certainly more experienced, more travelled, more exposed and technically able....
forget the rest - Wed Dec 6 6:18:27 2000

Went to Sublime on Friday - the Space DJs played a 3 hour techno set - damn they rocked! Am interested in dancing to more techno sounds - any recommendations? Has anyone been to one of the Bombed parties & willing to tell us about it?
Wastrel & Strumpet - Wed Dec 6 8:39:09 2000

You need go no further than Frisky's fourth birthday or ARQ's first birthday to compare Luke and Alex back to back. The only thing keeping people at Frisky was the fact that Luke was coming on next. Alex has lost touch with playing to a highly commercial crowd. Saturday night at Home is not a highly commercial crowd, they are easily pleased.
:) Let's see how long she takes to bite on this one! - Wed Dec 6 10:24:53 2000
This is the opinion of the poster.

Mmmmm... interesting view on things. I think you will find that generally it is the commercial crowd which is easily pleased, just listen to Gregg & Luke. Throw on a few top 40 tracks and everyone thinks you're good, it is the DJ's who can hold and control a crowd without commercial tracks who are worth their true worth, and generally have much better technical skills as they have to keep the crowd without well know commercial tracks, now listen to Alex and you'll hear and appreciate the difference. Gregg and Luke might as well play at DCM for what they play.
Wed Dec 6 10:42:00 2000

The above is just my opinion, so let's not get too defensive or paranoid.
Wed Dec 6 10:52:09 2000

Hahaha! I don't think you will hear too many female vocals and beautiful trance at DCM! There are many DJs in Sydney who play Top 40 and no-one thinks they are good! As for the technical side, just compare the mixed CDs released by Greg, Luke and Alex and judge for yourself. Alex rates 3rd. As for his ability to control a crowd, many people were coming into the last Frisky from Hey Homo, citing "unbearable music" as the reason. People paying $60 odd a ticket on the door due to dissatisfaction.
Wed Dec 6 11:25:53 2000
This is the opinion of the poster.

whats disco kitchen?
Wed Dec 6 11:52:24 2000

Deepchild live this thursday @ Club Kooky. New cd is out now thru festival. Deep, dubby and good makeout music, this ain't what you'll hear in the RHI. More info @ www.clananalogue.org
thanks - Wed Dec 6 13:07:06 2000

There's been no comment cuz we don't want Panther to have to shut down the board again... so shhhhhh.
JGT - Wed Dec 6 14:23:04 2000

oops - it didnt last long on here did it ? Just as well i cut and pasted and saved a copy for muself :P
Wed Dec 6 19:02:53 2000

good on ya club kooky....keep the good work up
informed - Wed Dec 6 19:42:07 2000

I read someone mentioning Collette, the Australian singer of the 80's. Does anyone know of ANY websites with info on her? I'm dying to know what the hell she's up to now. (She's the one who had that hit 'Ring My Bell')
Oswald - Wed Dec 6 22:12:24 2000

i am so rolling in fits of laughter re that post.I award it a gold medal !!
Wed Dec 6 22:33:46 2000

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Wed Dec 6 22:38:24 2000

oooh arrrr - theres 125,240 minutes to go
Wed Dec 6 22:39:31 2000

wrong - sorry - thats 125,179 minutes to go
Wed Dec 6 22:41:35 2000

re: Collette. you can contact her at "Madame Fleiss". I overheard a Thai bussinessman say she was quite expensive, but very good company. I wish her the best of luck in her future endevours.
Mr Panties - Thu Dec 7 2:11:01 2000

Potentially libelous message deleted.

To Mmmmmmmmmmm Wed Dec 6 10:42:00 - there is also nothing worse than a DJ playing stuff you have never heard. DJ's should realise that for m o s t the only music we hear is from the radio and occassionaly pubs/clubs so throwing in some good top 40 tracks can lead one to like a DJ. Nothing wrong with that ?
Some commercial fan - Thu Dec 7 8:20:59 2000

Well said commercial fan.Not every one who goes to a club - in fact i'd say a majority of people are like you and I - *dont* want to be "educated" by brand new unrecognisable so called "Cutting Edge" music.Its fine hearing this stuff in small chunks,but hearing it non stop all night is just the DJ flying in the face of adversity in my opinion.People go out to have fun , not be educated.If i wanted to be educated i would gave gone to Uni after year 12
commercial fan #2 - Thu Dec 7 12:22:57 2000

And some of us have fun listening to "cutting edge music" (whatever that may be). Please don't generalise for us.
Nat - Thu Dec 7 13:25:29 2000

Personal abuse deleted.

You guys really take your music waaayyyy too seriously,it kind of takes the fun out of it really,its all about 'dj this....dj that.....'~its boring.your all boring.get out more!!
knock - Thu Dec 7 15:43:28 2000

Who is going to Pride? How much are you paying for your ticket? Who is going to Mardi Gras? How much are you paying for your ticket? How many different music venues as Pride? How many different music and entertainment venues at Mardi Gras? Just a thought? Care to comment on the DJs at Pride?
PF - Thu Dec 7 16:04:09 2000

not interested in Pride or Mardi Gras..I only go to Frisky parties
friskian - Thu Dec 7 18:36:58 2000

PF - Pleeeeeeeeeeease dont start the debate about Pride DJ's again.If you want to know what people think scroll back a few weeks.There is more than adequate bitching & carrying on about the Pride DJ's and the unfair & controversial selection process that Pride have adopted back there.It does not need to be repeated here all over again.
Thu Dec 7 18:38:05 2000

PF - and if you are too lazy to try to find the chat about Pride DJ's yourself let me help you out.Try looking at the first week of postings on this graffitti wall as well as the last week on the previous wall.You will find all you need to find there.
Thu Dec 7 18:42:04 2000

cant you people go to other things but boring parties..why don't you got to avante raves and private events .You may as well resolve yourself to the prozac nation if you just go to community events that provide nothing but inadequate , inferior events.
private events person - Thu Dec 7 19:25:27 2000

Frankie Knuckles will play at Mardi Gras. Fine if you like that sort of thing. Looks like the Hordern will stay more deep house, funk and garage for Mardi Gras. Bangin' again in the Dome we hope.
TW - Thu Dec 7 19:51:17 2000
Pinkboard makes no guarantees as to the accuracy of the information.

Frankie Knuckles ! OMG ! Its just one bad American DJ after another isnt it ? This news if true totally and utterly sucks ! Didnt the losers at MG production office get the hint after the Barry Harris fiasco ? Its like the boy who cried wolf all over again !
exasperated ! - Thu Dec 7 20:43:38 2000

Deleted.

The last posting was brought to you by yet another boring "Sydney Basher". Stop wasting your time - nobody is interested in your "I hate Sydney" dribble !
*uck off - Thu Dec 7 21:53:06 2000

Oh no..not another over seas DJ!!! I think Sydney is the only place (maybe its just this board)that complains about overseas acts being used. I don't hear the same chorus in London or read about the same kind of dissent in the USA, or in fact in any other place where DJ's roam the earth if they're offered the work. It sounds like xenphobic/protectionist crap when any one says "we only want Australian" at our parties. Maybe Australia hasn't really become the international city that everyone thinks it is? True colours are flown when it starts to reject international acts (or a heterosexual dj..oh no..stop it!), or maybe its just the gay community of Sydney showing how narrow and small and parochial it really is?
I love you all - Thu Dec 7 21:53:45 2000

i'm from sydney by the way
I love you all - Thu Dec 7 21:58:17 2000

I love you all - Thu Dec 7 21:53:45 2000 ::: I wuld welcome with open arms an overseas DJ that could play a set of music that Sydney people want to hear. Sadly though it has been proven time and time again that most of the overseas DJ's used at MG run events have been totally out of touch with the Sydney music scene.Just look at all the complaints on the Sleaze 2000 board about Barry Harris.And then there was Victor Calderone at MG2000 who wasnt much better. Im not against overseas DJ at all (in fact Wayne G was quite good at MG2000),its just that "most" of them dont know what we want to hear.In the main its the American DJ's that dont adapt well to Sydney.The UK based ones are far better.
me myself and I - Thu Dec 7 21:59:25 2000

Hi My Fellow Brothers and Sisters In Clubland...just decided to pay a visit and am tempted to share my experiences and observations on the punters view, from a dj's prospective, as to what makes a 'good' or 'bad' dj..whilst fully acknowledging I'm gonna be ripped to shreds by anonymous adults.Anyway, I'll boldly venture forth LOL...Top of the list is the scenario where a punter dances for hours to a dj's set. Somehow, eye contact is made, smiles exchanged and the punter thinks he's now earned the right to tell the dj what to play next. The 'play this next' request is made, but how can you play it when you don't even own it? That very innocent request when unfulfilled, then turns you into 'a c*nt dj with an attitude who plays only for himself'. Ahhh...the injustices of life....... Coco. ps Please...all repliers, be genuine and sign your names. My faith in mankind is still strong.
Fri Dec 8 0:54:45 2000

ps Chiclet, nice to learn that you are a dj as well. Hope you don't get treated the way you treat others ;)
coco - Fri Dec 8 1:01:11 2000

this chiclet sounds like a bitch and I love it can you please call gerard on *****
gerard - Fri Dec 8 8:17:46 2000
Phone number deleted.

hmmmmmmmmm .... posting other people telephone numbers to pinkboard. This wall has reached a new low........
Fri Dec 8 9:55:49 2000

Errrrrrr Nat, if you read our posts carefully you would see we said - some - commercial is nice , which means the other music would be "cutting edge". So hold back on the meeeoooowww love.
Some commercial fan - Fri Dec 8 9:56:18 2000

Well, for what its worth last sunday night at Arq was average.Luke played an ok set.I've heard him play much better. Can someone explain why at 4.30 the music gets all experimental? do the dj's run out of material? are there record boxes not big enough to carry more material? has anyone else noticed this? Also why 'O' why do the Dj's play slow remixes in the morning at day recoveries? Is it just me or do other people wanna hear music with a pulse. the stuff they play is boring slow re mixes....go figure? Its little wonder that Annies bar goes off.(listen to the music) Arq should (dare I say it) get the dj's that play at annies bar(day recoveries) for it's day recoveries. Or perhaps, Arq just want us to leave.
lightbulb - Fri Dec 8 10:27:15 2000

It's good when a DJ exposes us to new kinds of music and throws in a few commercial tracks to mix it up - we get to hear new stuff and our attention is held. Frisky is pretty good for this. If a DJ plays *all* new tracks the entire night, most people are just dying to hear some Whitney/Kylie/Diva-bitch tracks. I dont think most Sydney-clubbers are averse to international Dj's - it's just the ones we've had have sucked. If we had some good ones then Im sure everyone would be a lot more excited!
Fri Dec 8 10:28:22 2000

lightbulb - what you said is *exactly* right.Particulary on Monday mornings Arq do indeed want people to f*uck off eventually.Most staff have worked flat out all weekend and by Monday morning they have had a gut full.Thus the slow music on Monday morning is your "hint" to go home.I have been going to Arq on Sundays alot lately and I have found a better solution once 6am comes around.Ive been going to the beresford.Now I know alot of crap straights go there but the venue on monday mornings has been opening up its little back room area where i have noticed an ever increasing number of gay boys showing up.The straights hate that back area and hang in the main bar section.The music is always up and fast all day long (sometimes too up and fast) but at least its better than that slow crap that Paul Goodyear plays in the vortex bar on Monhday mornings at Arq.Just a suggestion for you.
If i wanted slow music i'd take another valium :) - Fri Dec 8 10:57:13 2000

Lightbulb - That statement about the beresford and gay boys attending for recovery mornings applies 10 times more on Sunday mornings.
sick of valium music - Fri Dec 8 11:00:48 2000

Dear Lightbulb - totally agree. Also as bad is the DJ at a dance party who slowwwwwwwws the music down around 4am'ish (aka Barry Harris ) but has happened at many parties. Majority do not take things that slow you down but the slow beats really brings everyone down. I think they cant be dancers or else they haven't taken anything, are getting tired so play slow stuff. Can't they see people on the dance floor either shuffling or standing around talking ? If the compared the movements of the dancers when its upbeat to the slow beat they'd get an idea of what dancers want. But we all know you can't tell them and you only get abused if you do.
145bpm - Fri Dec 8 12:04:05 2000

Isn't it simply ***amazing*** how music has evolved over the last 10 years.I clearly remember in 1992 how a DJ would have his two boxes full of dance music and the BPM range of his two boxes would be 90-125 BPM.Imagine that these days,if the fastest track in your DJ box was only 125 !!! I remember going to a Pride party at the Hordern and in the middle of the night Rob Davis was around 110BPM.I also remember a MardI Gras party where Dean Essing was doing the closing set in the RHI (I think it was 1993) and at 6am in the morning with the RHI packed he was down to 106BPM and the place was going off !!!My how things change !
Heart attack - Fri Dec 8 12:18:50 2000

I was in the RHI at 6am in 1993 - that was the Disco Inferno Snowstorm. Not sure what that clocks at, but I have not seen a party go off that way to this day. Seem to remember it followed the Weather Girls. I do remember Temptation somewhere about 4ish, and this definitely clocks under 120bpm. How frightening that this has become but a distant memory.
lovin' it - Fri Dec 8 13:11:46 2000

Thanks guys.... I now know I am not alone.... perhaps Paul G or Luke would care to get on here and tell us why they play music slow like this?? (perhaps they have been told to?) I'm sure there's a reason....(A dj friend,who I asked said some people like it....hum funny I can't seem to find a single person) I mean really given the choice would you not rather walk away totally f*ucked from dancing or night having had a great night...or having a cat nap in the corner??
lightbulb - Fri Dec 8 15:08:06 2000

Its good that audiences are becoming more discerning about what they want, and knowledgeable about different djs/music styles/mixing styles etc. Voting with your feet, either by dancing, or walking is a powerful way of expressing that discernment. But, like any creative appreciation, it's also profoundly subjective and the terms used are notoriously inexact. Your version of "standard progressive house" might be someone elses "Trade-hard" and another persons "bang-bang-bang techno crap". (I recently heard the same set described this way within 3 minutes by 3 different people). Sometimes djs are briefed by venue operators, party promoters, and committee members that use this language to mean very different things to what djs themselves mean by them. Even between djs there is a wide range of meanings for standard terms. Bpms are a good way of quantifying tempo, but notions of "feel", "build", "commercial" "journey" etc. vary enormously. As I said, I think its good people are becoming more selective & informed about what they like, but unfortunately we don't all use the same language to describe what we hear.
Hard 'n Chillin - Fri Dec 8 15:36:59 2000

lovin' it - Fri Dec 8 13:11:46 2000 - well i went back and checked my personal diary for 1993 and yes you are correct the 1993 MG was indeed the Disco Inferno party.Your times are a tad out though.The snow storm to disco inferno was at 7am one hour into Dean Essing's set.Temptation was the 1992 remix which clocks in at 127bpm and disco inferno I think is at 128bpm.I made a mistake about Essing being at 106bpm at 6am - that was actually at about 8am when he played slow tracks like "justified and Ancient" and the 1992 remix of "Upside Down" by Diana Ross (which clock in at 110 and 107 bpm respectively).Yes my dear friend "lovin it" those were the good old days.Dj's could never get away with that sort of variety these days.It took talented DJ's the likes of Dean Essing (may he rest in peace) to achieve those sorts of wonderful nights out.
A>D - Fri Dec 8 15:38:15 2000

The best music to dance to is @ 110 - 125 BPM.
Fri Dec 8 15:50:46 2000

I'd rather drown in a river of snot than dance to Diana Ross and I felt the same in '93.
Fri Dec 8 16:04:14 2000

well sir/madam,happy drowning.I just hope the snot wasnt too green and gluggy for you.
Fri Dec 8 16:09:40 2000

it wasn't, I didn't, I exercised my option and sat that one out. just as well, since the floor was packed with gym boys lip-synching to eachother each and every one of Diana's breathy, saccharine, soul-less phrases...
Fri Dec 8 16:20:01 2000

LOL re the river of snot. I too love to leave a party buzzing, high on the dance floors energy. Gimme those faster BPMs all the way to the very end.
Nat - Fri Dec 8 16:27:38 2000

so my dear Diana Ross hater,I take it you were no where to be seen at MG96 when Moggi did "the Boss" from the ceiling rings in the RHI ?
i am the boss - Fri Dec 8 16:45:38 2000

I prefer music that isn't too fast. I am not ashamed of this, even if it is out of fashion at the moment.
Arti - Fri Dec 8 18:24:55 2000

1) who said I was a DJ ? 2) thanks for the phone number, I'll prank call you tonight. Panties wrote it down before it was deleted. 3) I like it deep & dark ( music too ) I'll pass on the 150bpm stuff 4) Coco, I'd still like to sniff your amyl.
Chiclet (valium music?) - Fri Dec 8 19:50:25 2000

Oh dear... 1993 - I was all of 13 then!
Fri Dec 8 22:16:56 2000

I really love Quaalude Music. it makes me feel so ..... mmmm
Mr Panties - Fri Dec 8 22:17:36 2000

Hiya Chiclet, Just feel free to come on down when you're ready for a sniff, LOL. I agree with you on the BPMs thing... I love grooving to 128BPM personally. By the way, Lexie and I are at the Shift on Sunday mornings now for Daycare from 6am, I'll have a bottle on ice for you. To 'Hard n Chillin', at times, a track that is 100BPMs may have a lot more 'E N E R G Y' than one at say...150BPMs. I think that's the key word you're looking for. It's all in the finished sound, mate.
Love, Coco. - Fri Dec 8 22:59:42 2000

I gotta agree 100% with Coco on that one. In response to a message from Lovin It re: Sydney inflicting Rob Davis on Melbourne .. uhhh .. you lived up to your nic-name, didnt ya ? there's nothing cuter than seeing a leather boy doing a Diana Ross impersonation on the dancefloor.
Mr Panties *pinkboard overkill, gonna take a rest* - Sat Dec 9 0:42:51 2000

Wayne G played an absolutley brilliant set at this years Mardi Gras.Love,love,loved it!!!!
DeepBoy - Sat Dec 9 11:21:35 2000

What do you call the style of music that's typically played in the Dome at 6am at Sleaze and MG? Hope we get a repeat at NYE (my first). Also how grubby do things get at NYE? Dicks out etc? Lots I hope. All advice welcome.
PaulD - Sat Dec 9 13:01:33 2000

PaulD - That style usually heard in the Dome is called "deep house", but it also has "garage", "tribal", "jungle" and "soul" as other labels. Its bpms are way lower than both hard and handbag/anthem, and never over 125. Ben Drayton, playing in the Dome for NYE, is a master of this sound. As far as sex-on-premises goes, I guess that depends on your willingness to loiter around dunnies & dark corners. I've never seen much on the dance floor or out in the open at Pride.
H&C - Sat Dec 9 18:30:38 2000

Thanks H&C for a polite, informative answer. So rare ..... "Deep house" huh? - love it.
PaulD - Sat Dec 9 19:22:55 2000

PaulD - also check out The Phoenix on a Sat night.
The Pinkboard Stirrer - Sat Dec 9 20:19:48 2000

Peace Divison, Jeremy Healy, Jason Bye, Alex Taylor, Jules Beaumont, Mark Walton, Simon Caldwell and Dj pity the Kid @ home tonight! Tix $25/30 cardholders/others on the door from 11pm.
Sat at home? - Sat Dec 9 21:12:54 2000

Peace Division & Jeremy Healy = the sublime & the ridiculous. I'm gonna go down there and have and "Ibiza Uncovered" moment & throw my Hazy Fantazy records at him (it would be a shame to simply throw them in the bin)
Chiclet (FootBall Hooliganess) - Sat Dec 9 22:19:12 2000

For those of you that just tend to come to this party graffitti board only might i suggest you have a look at the pinkboard venue goss page (the one with the happy beer glass as the icon).Theres a very interesting "debate" about Satellitte group and its affiliated gay hotels going on there at the moment.
Sun Dec 10 8:56:57 2000

Was at Stonewall last night and heard "Perfect Day" by Indigo played.All the wonderful memories of Frisky came flooding back *barf*.So know we have a new 2000 remix , i am so filled with joy !
sunny day - Sun Dec 10 9:02:46 2000

What Dutch swimmer here for a certain swim meet was seen at Arq last night?
Sun Dec 10 9:56:51 2000

Well, the dutch invented dykes - whaddya reckon ?
Tulips r better than none - Sun Dec 10 20:47:34 2000

...tulips just made for kissing,
Sun Dec 10 21:11:53 2000

countdown boy is happily awaiting the new kylie minogue cd single release today and at the same time is here to tell you that there is only 82 days to go 82 days to go 82 days to go 82 days to go 82 days to go 82 days to go.Have a great week everyone :)
counting boy - Mon Dec 11 0:06:39 2000

Mr Panties - that is totally out of school, and you should be very careful about what conversations make it onto this wall. And to keep the Diana Ross love/hate societies going - Mr Panties was referring to Rob Davis playing some troppo mix of Love Child last week in Melb.
lovin' it - Mon Dec 11 9:53:54 2000

"mr panties being careful about what he says on this wall" ? Now that's a funny !
Mon Dec 11 9:56:08 2000

re - Gavan (Our lips are Sealed) Bright :-) - Sun Nov 26 20:23:26 2000 --- i just saw this posting after not looking at this site for a number of weeks.Dear Gavan,Get a grip and show some originality for once.Your decision to play the gogo's 1980 classic "our lips are sealed" at Mardi gras 2000 was not original nor your own idea unfortunately.The magic wand and gold medal for this stunning call goes to Sean Manley who had played it at Mardi Gras 1999 one year earlier in the same position you had played it...ie,opening RHI.I have no complaints about you playing it,I just wanted to set the record straight cause Sean deserves the credit for it.
***** - Mon Dec 11 10:50:41 2000
Abusive signature deleted.

Hellooooo!

Have a merry christmas kids! :)
MonkeyStuffer - Mon Dec 11 12:58:09 2000

I agree with above poster. Sean playing "our lips are sealed" was one of the greatest classic party moments ever. However, it is not the kind of classic that you can play again the following year, and get away with it. Gavan helped Sean edit the track for Mardi Gras '99, and obviously burned himself a copy which he therefore decided to play in the same hall and same time slot as Sean had the year before. *****
Mon Dec 11 14:21:32 2000
1) This is the opinion of the poster. 2) Personal abuse deleted.

You DJ's are just too funny! (not to mention precious) how can one person claim credit for playing a song? no matter in what order or when? I would have thought that the only person who had a copywrite to a song would be the artist.
The Sun was seen in the same space of sky as the moon & is being sued by the moon for breach of copywrite!!LOL - Mon Dec 11 14:29:38 2000

No money and nowhere to go? Why not give this one a dance? 2001 an electro odyssey doing it live b(if)tek dark network clone artificial suspect but you also get seymour butz & dj toupee yay! plus there’s the usual kooky shows ‘n suprizes ballroom newtown rsl dec 31 2000 9pm – next year tix only $30 @ kooky, fish newtown, recycled records, red eye, central station
http://www.biftek.com - Mon Dec 11 14:34:07 2000

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Mon Dec 11 14:21:32 2000 - Whilst i do agree with you I thought your abuse of Gavan was a bit over the top.The guy might be a copycat but he certainly isnt a freak !
tut tut - Mon Dec 11 15:15:47 2000

110 bpm
zzzzzzzzzzzzzzzzzz - Mon Dec 11 16:02:29 2000

So was it true the dutch tulip was giving it to thorpedo ?
Heda - Mon Dec 11 16:06:03 2000

So Gavan did another DJ a favor by editing & burning a track to CD, and now you're crucifying him for it. Three things, 1) Nice way of paying the favor back (not). 2) Unless Gavan knew a year in advance that he was playing the same set at the same party a year later, then your thinking is severly flawed, and 3) I'm sure he won't make the same mistake again.
Mon Dec 11 16:12:24 2000

Paul Holden used to always play it at Bachanalia. Maynard also plays it. get over it. it's a crap 80's pop song, not the musical equivilent of the Holy Grail.
Chiclet (my lips are puckered) - Mon Dec 11 16:49:50 2000

A Dj (Paul Holden) playing an 80's pop song at Bachannalia parties in the 80's has nothing to do with a Dj who shows the imaginitive brilliance of dusting it off a decade later and making it work a treat at an event of the enorminty of Mardi Gras.Sean did this to a treat ! Gavan repeating it a year later shows no imagination.
Find your own retro classic ! - Mon Dec 11 17:19:10 2000

FYI Mobile home at Bondi beach will finish @ 4.00am, and the music will be turned down after 1.00am. This was confirmed today by Waverly Council. ps: I'll save my money (and seretonin) for Frisky!!!
Boogie Boy!!! - Mon Dec 11 18:17:26 2000

YAY Boogie Boy is back ! I havent seen you on here for ages sister !
another boy - Mon Dec 11 20:20:14 2000

I wonder if there is any correlation between the full moon and the level of personal abuse on this wall.
Panther - Mon Dec 11 23:00:28 2000

PaulD, in addition to previous replies, check out the Phoenix on most nites and even Monday mornings if you're still out...2 new DJs named Irene and Matt kick arse, and perhaps 'Bad Dog' at Berlin...yet to visit that one but musicwise, I have heard positive comments about their first nite. If I may sugguest, maybe do some homework regarding DJs associated with the underground sound which I assume is your preferance. So nice to know more and more punters are getting into the 'underground sound'. PHEW!!
Coco - Tue Dec 12 0:11:32 2000

ps again LOL. You'd be pleased in the Dome at PRIDE's NYE if you go. Djs are Chip, Colleen Naxon & Ben Drayton.....yummy!!!
Coco - Tue Dec 12 0:25:59 2000

Find your own retro classic ! I played it for my mate Sean, who was dancing in front of dj box , so get your story right mate. Besides it was my edit that Sean played.
Mrs Bright - Tue Dec 12 2:28:40 2000

Mon Dec 11 16:12:24 2000 your right! I won't be!
Mrs Bright - Tue Dec 12 2:33:24 2000

Mon Dec 11 10:50:41 2000 doesn't the artist get the credit? After all Sean and I are just dj’s who play another person/s music (unless it is something I have wrote myself)

The credit is with the composer, correct me if I am wrong pink posters. You could say that the credit for Diddy’s “Give me Love” played by Gregg at Sleaze should have gone to a previous DJ that may or may not have played a song at some stage in his or her earlier career in the RHI. You sound like a DJ wanna be who’s nit picking!
Mrs Bright - Tue Dec 12 2:50:17 2000

Pride Centre - Sat Dec 2 17:17:31 2000 Is this funny? You are suffering oon of the seven deadly sins. It's was never a blue light disco more like Cronulla Gay Group. And the party was so much fun, YMCA, Searching, Where is my man?, Iam What Iam! All Gay classic's for a group of people that love this retro style of anthems. I was the youngest at the party I think? So long ago and early in my DJ learning curve! You have to start somewhere I guess!
Mrs Bright Does Cronulla Grey Group circa 1993 - Tue Dec 12 3:13:17 2000

My D4T is kicking in I am off to bed now I have read enough and replied to enough dribble (why did I bother) That’s enough from this wall it's mostly crap (no offence Larry). To those that have set the right example in giving positive comments towards peers, well done! Please keep it up. Maybe then DJ Bad Hair Do and his curling wand mates will realize why they don't get gigs. These comments all started around the same time that my name was broadcasted on Today FM advertisements for a club night I play with Kelly Lynch (Love the sun dress), Make it Phunkie Bexta and Mark Dynamix. Coco I think your right it seems to me that these +ve comments come from one in the same person.
Mrs Bright ZZZZzzzzzzzzz - Tue Dec 12 3:39:31 2000

Sveta and Steve Sonius play this Friday 15th Dec at 111 Regent Street for the big move of the Hellfire Club to occassional Friday nights. Pinkboard readers can get free admission by phoning Master Tom on 0416 392 361 before 9pm Friday. There'll be shows by Tom, Ultra, Master Sirius (Garth Bolwell), Alexandra and a special guest appearance by Sadistic Encryption - who's come all the way down from Byron to do a show. Hellfire will then return again on Friday 29th for a "Happy New Fear" extravaganza ... details to follow.
Tom - Tue Dec 12 14:26:32 2000

NYE - "Magnitude" ? is it worth going to Melbourne for ? the DJ line up doesnt do much for me, but a mate is trying to get me there. yes or no ???
Stalker - Tue Dec 12 14:40:06 2000

Definitely no - unless you like 18 year old girls. I haven't checked - but Magnitude has always been a day recovery in the past. Are you sure that this isn't on on New Years Day? Hate to say it, but the straight events seem much better than the gay events on NYE. If you were to come down, the ALSO party is probably the best at the Prince of Wales with Mandy Rollins & Steven Alkins.
lovin' it - Tue Dec 12 15:29:23 2000

Rumour: some OS djs have asked to play at the Prince of Wales, after they get back from their advertised gig (not the docklands one). If there's any truth in it, that'd be the place to be.
Tue Dec 12 15:36:56 2000

Does anyone know anything about a party called "London Calling" being held at the Metro on Fri Dec 22 (str8) and Sat Dec 23 (queer)? The DJ line-up of all London DJs includes the brilliant and bangin' EJ Doubell, who rocked Ffierce a couple of years ago.
Nat - Tue Dec 12 15:53:19 2000

I went to Middle Bar at Kinselas with four other friends (two gay, one str8 guy, one str8 girl) on Friday night and they wouldn't let us in. And we have all been there a number of times before. The guy on the door claimed that between now and Xmas there were private parties being held there and that it was invitation only. Bollocks. Immediately after turning us away we saw them turn away two more groups of gay men, then let in a bunch of str8s without anyone showing an invite. They want us when they need us, and they turn us away when they get busy. One of my friends complained to them about it yesterday and they tried to placate him with a free membership, denying a discriminatory door policy. Crap as far as I'm concerned. You won't catch me there ever again.
Boycott Kinselas - Tue Dec 12 16:22:42 2000

Re Kinsella's - yeah that does "NoT" surprise me one little bit....Its the Arq syndrome all over again.

Get the gays in.

Make the place look popular.

Then f*uck the gays off.

This formular is tried and tested in Darlinghurst.Its about time people woke up to it.
Stick with venues that have had the best interests of the gay community at heart for long periods of time.In the end analysis they will still be around in 10 years time whereas places like Arq and Kinsella's will have cashed in and closed down.
Support the **real** gay venues - Tue Dec 12 17:47:55 2000

Magnitude is going to be a hot party,hot men and hot music..........definatly worth the trip to Melbourne for it!!
eager - Tue Dec 12 19:53:41 2000

Is there very much leather at Magnitude???
leatherman one - Tue Dec 12 19:55:43 2000

Mardi Gras 2001 gossip - RHI will now feature 4 DJ's each doing 3 hours each, instead of the previously 3 DJ's doing 4 hours each.Either the 2nd or 3rd DJ position in the RHI has been allocated to Wayne G.In the Hordern it has been decided to keep the Hordern in "house" mode with the selection of Frankie Knuckles to play the Middle spot of 3 DJ's.Frankie is also doing CD1 of the Mardi Gras CD with Annabel Gasper doing CD2.The Dome will again be a replica of the ICE parties and will remain Hard House.This is unfortunate in my opinion as I think the hard house phenonomen needed to expand into the Hordern.Same sex spaces have still to be discussed or ratified,but I think its essential after the backlash from sleaze ball that at least a mens only space be provided.Thats the goss guys and gals.I shall keep you posted on any further developments.
The Network News - Tue Dec 12 21:02:53 2000
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Gasper & Knuckles ? I guess they're only planning on selling 16 CDs ? they can run that out on the burner at Kinkos for $100
Timez R Tuff - Tue Dec 12 22:22:41 2000

Magnitude has no leather. Think Frisky crowd but more gay.
Tue Dec 12 23:15:31 2000

What is the venue for magnitude in melbourne and will there be a back room or allocated area for naughtiness ?
interested - Tue Dec 12 23:55:35 2000

good morning !
Wed Dec 13 0:12:53 2000

80 days to go 80 days to go 80 days to go 80 days to go 80 days to go 80 days to go 80 days to go 80 days to go 80 days to go
excitable counter - Wed Dec 13 0:22:08 2000

Network news is wrong as a number of mid-January announcements will show. The post contains a mix of old news, unconfirmed rumours, and ideas that are already in the bin. Nice try at wrecking the surprises though. You must feel almost important...
Wed Dec 13 0:25:27 2000

The also party at the prince will be hopeless. It wont be suported by melbourne as it is a desperate attempt to fill the club with interstate djs and the worst melbourne talent. The prince is off bounds as the also parties are now lesbian leftist seperatist dance parties. Dont waste your money as there will be better events to go to like magnitude and future 2001 and freakazoid. Dont go to also parties as they are a load of rubbish
groovy clubber - Wed Dec 13 0:34:27 2000
This is the opinion of the poster.

RE Wed Dec 13 0:25:27 2000 -- well since you seem to debunk my of "the Network News's" posting why dont you tell us what you know mr silly billy.Given that you dont have any info for us I'll take it that "Newtowrok News" is fact until you can supply some information of your own.
Networks mate - Wed Dec 13 8:13:21 2000
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Well Network News I hope your wrong about Dome. Didn't MG read the posts about how packed/dangerous/queues etc. Thought they would have at least moved hard house back to where it belongs in the Hordern. Maybe they will wait for 3 strikes and your out ! Agree its a shame as Dome was unreal but too packed too hot, and I'm not queueing to get into a dance hall.
Back tothe Hordern please MG - Wed Dec 13 9:07:54 2000

RE:Kinselas Entry...I think what they are trying to establish is a modern cocktail lounge for str8ts,a sort of Gilligans 5 yrs ago,and they are discriminating against gays just as The Oxford did with str8ts trying to get into Gilligans,I witnessed it many a times,doormen/woman asking questions like 'Are you aware this is a GAY venue?'then turning mainly girls away because they were str8t,so I guess we're just getting a taste of our own medicine really.
Not nice is it? - Wed Dec 13 9:46:18 2000

Tropical Fruits is gonna go off!! Yee ha!!
Fruity smile - Wed Dec 13 9:49:46 2000

For those who have not been to a byron party and what the low down well here it is.
Expect to be socialising with a group of gay and straight people from all cultures and walks of life from normal people to derros off the street.The hippys are most amusing,and they will guarantee to piss you off if you like dancing.When i was last at Byron 2 years ago a whole group of them sat in the middle of the dancefloor smoking their bongs and nobody bothered to remove them - most annoying ! Everything at these parties is the total opposite to what you expect at normal dance parties (expect the un-orthodox).Needless to say byron parties whilst certainly being an eye opener are the sort of parties that you tend to go to once and never go back to again.This is my opinion.
Wed Dec 13 10:10:14 2000

Oh i forgot - at byron parties please remember to bring your pet animals with you.At my last Byron experience i counted over a dozen dogs, and about 6 or 7 cats,snakes,guinee pigs,mice,rats,parrots,cockatoos,even a bloody rabbit ! The locals at byron cant bare to leaves their pet animals at home.....It is total bizarro world !
Wed Dec 13 10:15:24 2000

Offensive message deleted.

Leatherman One - if I even had the faintest whiff of there being a leather crowd at Magnitude I would be there - but alas not. A series of parties have split the crowd on NYE. There's not much to attract down here on the night (in my humble opinion)
lovin' it - Wed Dec 13 10:31:23 2000

Lovin It, I've taken my foot out of my mouth and I'm on my knees, begging for forgiveness. make the most of it while I'm down here.
Mr Panties - Wed Dec 13 11:14:56 2000

And ..... I'm in Brisbane for the next two days. where is good to go out ? (no girly music please)
Mr Panties - Wed Dec 13 11:18:17 2000

NY House Tour at the Metro this Sunday. DJ's Lenny Fontana, Kate Munroe, Steve Sonius, Craig Obey and Jonathon Wall. Legendary vocalists Byron Stingily and Duane Hardin. Big sound and big production. Metro..check out www.unltd.com.au
new york house music all night long - Wed Dec 13 11:54:13 2000

Wed Dec 13 10:10:14 2000 I am back to make comment about the person who said the fruits party was "the sort of parties that you tend to go to once and never go back to again" I understand that this is your opinion. I would like to share mine. The Fruits parties are simply the best alternative community based glbt parties in the land. Why? Simply cause they do encourage you to do your own thing, you can bring your dog or pet whom dance better than me :-), you can wear what you want, locals don't label you into a pigeon hole. The crowd is made up of alternative people, cause it's located close to the Byron Bay Shire. Heaps of GLBT people live in the area cause they previously moved out of the Sydney/Melbourne Rat race to get back to reality. Real People, just being themselves without fear of the style police. People at these parties don’t Judge other party attendees. Such variety in on site Food, Bar drinks, real yummy expresso coffee & cake shop, music, entertainment, Fireworks, 3 tents 3 different styles of music always played at the same DJ time slot (something for everyone). They encourage new local DJ talent, such as this years line up with CC & Genesis. The Crowd is the sexiest looking bunch of men and women. As this is my fourth Fruits my highlight will be play back to back with Lexie Bradfield at the recovery. This year will be bigger than last year and shall offer more alternative activities than the big city parties. What the party will mean for me is being under the stars looking up at the bright shinning light in the sky (which is The International Space Station solar reflectors) They will symbolize a beacon for glbt & str8 Dance Party Diversity. Think outside of the square ;-)
Mrs Bright - Wed Dec 13 14:12:27 2000

The Tropical Fruits party on NYE is one of the best and friendliest parties that I have been to. Coming from Sydney it's a great alternative, & anyone going will have a great time. I won't be going this year, but I've been to them for the last three years. The boys are hot, the sex filthy, the crowd friendly, and the weather great!
Wed Dec 13 14:19:55 2000

Mrs Bright,thanks for the positive rundown of a party friends and I are all really looking forward to going to,its funny but almost every person i've bumped into over the past few weeks has mentioned going to Tropical Fruits,have booked accomadation months in advance and can't wait!! The weathers great(32 degrees today)& no negative,pretentious,attitude to deal with from the usual crowds in Sydney. So to the anon poster,perhaps it was never your thing to begin with.
Can't Wait!! - Wed Dec 13 15:13:18 2000

Dont forget the us house tour in Melbourne at Freakazoid on Fiday night in Melbourne. Byron Stingily will be brilliant with guest djs donny.arlen.john Portelli.crystal.peter mac.and liz miller Congrats to phillip morris it will be smokin.....
chain smoker - Wed Dec 13 18:45:09 2000

Can't Wait!! - Wed Dec 13 15:13:18 2000 Well you make sure you come and say hello to me, I would love to place a face to you. You have never been is that correct? If that is the case then you will most likely make Byron your NYE thing for several parties, it's something they place in the water I guess.
Mrs Bright - Wed Dec 13 23:51:50 2000

Enjoy your Party Mrs Bright. I'm going to Pride and hopefully the no nik poster slamming Tropical Fruits doesn't go to Pride either. Thought that sought of attitude/bitchiness went away in the 80's when they closed Patches/Palms/Flo's Palace !!!
Mrs Sparkle - Thu Dec 14 10:42:13 2000

i know where palms is,but where / what is Patches and Flos palace ??
Johnno - Thu Dec 14 11:01:10 2000

Interested Tue 12 23:55:35 2000, The venue for Magnitude is Salt in South Yarra. Think Home nightclub but slightly smaller scale. I doubt there will be an allocated area for "naughtiness" If that is the reason you go to parties why don't you save your money and go to a sauna... No one really wants to see it.
Thu Dec 14 11:10:34 2000

Now Showing 'Blue', starring David Smith, Sharyn Brand and Bill Morley. Co-starring house diva Bertha and her freaky disco bunnies. Guest appearences by bongo boy Tony and the Blue Unicorn. Tonight@lizard lounge. 134 Oxford St. 10pm-late
Thu Dec 14 14:24:11 2000

Salt also has a concrete dancefloor. Take your Medicare card with you. There definitely is no naughtiness there.
Thu Dec 14 14:44:06 2000

Mrs Bright,this will be my first Tropical Fruits...how will I know who you are if I want to say hello? Will you stand out? Re:Magnitude is held at 'Salt'...its a great venue,2 dance floors with the main one to the right as you walk in. It can get hot I do remember that much. There isn't really a space for sordid sex,but then most of the girls/guys that are there aren't into that anyway. Its quite refreshing for a change. Mind you i've always thought of Sydney as the 'sex driven city'-so it was a pleasant change to be in an environment where this wasn't so privilent.
Can't wait!! - Thu Dec 14 15:21:56 2000

** kooky tonight *** 77 william street *** dj seymour butz & dj gemma *** no perfume, no cameras, no cheese ***
Thu Dec 14 16:28:59 2000

** kooky tonight *** 77 william street *** dj seymour butz & dj gemma *** no perfume, no cameras, no cheese *** , no fun
Thu Dec 14 16:50:13 2000

Hi All, this board is getting strangely addictive..haha. Honestly, I have a few spare minutes. Anyway, I am curious as to why so much effort goes into slagging a party, venue or nite? Ain't it your C H O I C E to choose whether you wanna participate or not?
Coco - Thu Dec 14 17:07:25 2000

coco...i have a perfect reply to your posting as above but i am afraid even on this open minded and somewhat censoreless web site its a bit to rude to write down :)
Thu Dec 14 17:31:37 2000

thank you for the music
Swedish Cultural Minister - Thu Dec 14 17:57:05 2000

We are going to Byron Bay after Mardi Gras,are there any parties on after Mardi Gras? If there are are they worth going too?
Time to Party !! - Thu Dec 14 18:22:58 2000

Has Magnitude in Melebourne sold out?
Can't wait - Thu Dec 14 18:24:53 2000

Thanks for the reply Lovin' It,Are you a leather party dude? My boyfriend and I are,Redemptions,Inquisitions? Will definatley be wearing the leathers to Mardi Gras in 2001!!!!!
Leatherman One - Thu Dec 14 18:30:48 2000

I just got an invite to the opening of Zeee tonight and in the intrest of true investigative journalisim I am going to force myself to go. Looked good from the outside, just hope the style police are on their leads tonight as I just wanna have fun, been working too hard to play the whole oxford st scene queen game.
BND - Thu Dec 14 20:13:17 2000

Magnitude in Melbourne apparently sold out yesterday
Mendosa - Thu Dec 14 20:25:26 2000

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