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Sydney promises to be one big party during the Gay Games Rehersal.

Promoters please email me (Panther) icons for your parties so we can make this wall more colourful.

Please refrain from mentioning the radio debate.

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hehehehe
BND - Sat Sep 9 13:08:37 2000

tragic
Sat Sep 9 14:22:26 2000

Blue, this Thursday with David Smith in the Lizard Lounge and Alex Taylor in the VIP room of the Q bar. Percussionists, shows and your hostess with the mostess Bertha.
Sat Sep 9 14:44:14 2000

A New wall A New Wall I give my kingdom for this new wall :)
Sat Sep 9 16:42:33 2000

BND: You're just spamming now. Don't you have anything else to do?
TW - Sat Sep 9 18:27:56 2000

Has anyone here been to Storm at ARQ on a Friday night recently? Is it any good now?
Desperate for a good dance - Sat Sep 9 18:35:41 2000

omg....BND.....hehe
Sat Sep 9 21:11:06 2000

This blue is soooo ..... um ..... muted
PaulDiamondo - Sun Sep 10 11:09:28 2000

I dont tink I've ever seen BND post anything inteligent before. he/she/it sits & waits for a new wall & wants to be the first to write rubbish on it. kinda like a poodle pissing on a new letter box. stop it !
Chiclet - Sun Sep 10 13:58:56 2000

So writing "hehehe" is really that awful? Harmless surely. Why is the tone of discussion on these boards so hostile and intolerant?
PaulDiamondo - Sun Sep 10 19:14:43 2000

Paul, welcome to the wonderful world of homo club life
El Panteez - Sun Sep 10 23:13:14 2000

Because Paul Diamondo, in the real world no-one listens to 90% of the posters. Haven't you ever been chatted up but someone who bored you senseless ? Well this is where they go honey. Remember I said 90% of posters, its not all of them.
Cas - Mon Sep 11 10:34:04 2000

Yeah, Arq on a Friday is pretty good - not quite as crowded and desperate as Saturdays, great music, good hard dance - we'll be going there on Friday - come on and party, Desperate for a good dance.
Wastrel & Strumpet - Mon Sep 11 10:41:00 2000

Went to the piss party yesterday at Headquarters. Yeah not bad.
Mon Sep 11 13:02:23 2000

Can someone let us know with Frisky parties which rooms are which ie Pleasure & Playroom ? we liked the main area with stage , small dance floor and tiered standing/dancing area. Just saw DJ's and want to make sure. Dont want to be dancing in the bar area. Thanks
Chris - Mon Sep 11 15:21:30 2000

Chris...Just like every Frisky the room that JoJo and Luke Leal play in is the main room with the dance floor and the tiered stairs.How horrible to think of them swapping around.EeeeeK !
Mon Sep 11 16:06:58 2000

Any word yet on how the DJ selection for Pride NYE is going ??? Or will it be a case of them just choosing DJ's who happen to be on the board at Pride.Who needs to choose DJ's when a Pride board member by the name K.Munroe can do the whole night for us
Mon Sep 11 16:12:19 2000
This is the opinion of the poster.

At 5:35PM this Thursday, 14 September, the Olympic Flame will go down Oxford Street past the Midnight shift on its way into the city. Are you thinking what I am thinking? :) ...... well maybe not... Its on kids. We shall start at the Shift at 5PM and commence guzzling. At about 5:25 we shall endeavour to stagger onto the sidewalk and watch the big gay cigarette lighter go past. Now you may think this is silly but trust me you absolutely have to see the entire procession of CRAP that travels with this flame. And besides that I want to know Who Will Carry the damn thing!!!!!!! Okay so if you are up for it then we will all meet downstairs shift from 5PM this thursday!
bring the torch back to the golden mile - Mon Sep 11 16:13:50 2000

so put your money where your mouth is and tell us who is carrying the torch down oxford street? i need to know...
Shaerin - Mon Sep 11 16:26:00 2000

It is Penny Tration carrying the flame.
Mon Sep 11 17:36:46 2000

As herself or her alias. Geez we keep on making fun of long indian and pakistani names which say rude words. Wonder if our Aussie commentators will pick up on this one? (probably not if they work for the Daily Terror)
Mon Sep 11 17:40:22 2000

Rumour mill - Tina Cousins to do 1 October Frisky...again...and again. No, I am not joking.
Mon Sep 11 17:57:42 2000

Jojo & Leal are always in the "main" room. Jojo is even kind enough to play the exact same set every time. what a nice guy ! everyone can learn the words to the songs (if you'd call them that) & sing them with their hands in the air.
El Panteez - Mon Sep 11 18:05:35 2000
This is the opinion of the poster.

one more thing ... writing "hehehe" on the wall just so you can be the first one, is pretty pathetic. be witty, be bitchy, be controversial, be libelous, be interesting & informative. just dont be lame.
Panties - Mon Sep 11 18:08:13 2000

Iit will be Penny Tration with Tina Cousins running with the flame. Then handed to the alias.
Mon Sep 11 18:30:11 2000

Oh it's such a perfect Frisky, I'm glad I spent it with you, oh such a perfect frisky, you just keep me hangin on ...
Mon Sep 11 21:16:22 2000

"This is the opinion of the poster" Panteez was stating a fact. not an opinion.
Chiclet - Mon Sep 11 22:38:23 2000
This is the opinion of the poster.

well if your set was popular and enjoyed by the people who payed to attend, then why not play similar music each time. if people hated it they would not go and the message would be clear, but as it stands frisky sells out each time in less than half an hour, so why change.
Shaerin - Tue Sep 12 0:45:16 2000

..... Panties I think you are asking a bit too much of BND.Witty???? put f*** in front and you will be close.Bitchy well that is a female dog to him/her.He/she thinks contraversial is a prince/artist formally known as/symbol song.he/she think libelous is a Greek meal.Interesting to him/her is a cliff hanger episode of home and away and informative is the directions on a condom packet. I think you are being too hard on BND. (Bloody No Direction ????? ) What do you think?
is this a personal attack??? :O) - Tue Sep 12 1:12:51 2000

All I will say is that the torch procession on Thursday is to be seen and will be an amazing spectacle
The Doctor - Tue Sep 12 9:59:42 2000

I Hear That Panther is Gonna Carry The Torch Down Oxford Street :)
The Phantom Panther will be revealed :) - Tue Sep 12 11:07:48 2000

Heard a rumour about a "Gatecrasher" party at Sydney Uni around end of Sept ? Does anyone know if happening / venue / DJ's please ?
Nicky - Tue Sep 12 11:36:09 2000

i can't imagine a decent party at Sydney Uni....... particularly if, like me, you're a student there. It would just make me think I should be studying or move on to my next lecture!!
Tue Sep 12 13:41:54 2000

HaHa...re sydney Uni...all i would think of at sydney Uni dance party would be doing that famous beat there !!!
Tue Sep 12 13:55:35 2000

Well Gatecrasher is in Perth on Friday 29 September so it's probably true but crashettes will probably be disappointed by the music because among the DJs is Anthony Pappa who certainly doesn't play eurotrancypants with gorgonzola.
Tue Sep 12 13:59:38 2000

Its on a Tuesday nite.......wonder what crowd they are aiming for because the ain't gonna get me.......mid week puhleeze
Cannot attend - Tue Sep 12 17:17:12 2000

Nicky, you dont get out much, do ya ? the flyers & ads for gatecrasher have been aropund for ages. turn the computer off, put on some shoes, step outside & discover the world. you may be suprised what you find.
El Panteez ( of course it's my f*ckin opinion) - Tue Sep 12 18:27:47 2000

poor panteez...we do pity you and your pityful opinion
Tue Sep 12 18:47:06 2000

Hey, leave Mr Panties alone.
TW - Tue Sep 12 20:40:45 2000

blah blah blah, what has this wall come to when the biggest bitch is me getting first on the wall. I usually pass through here every day just to see whats been happening but rarely write anything. I did write something on the "games" board about the lighting of the flame on friday night but it was censored because I used the "F" word. As far as writting hehehe is concerned that was all I was capable of typing at the time. So there!
BND - Tue Sep 12 22:21:43 2000

Yuk! Someone told me about this site over the weekend. Yuk for nothing interesting. Thanks, but no thanks. Far to nasty.
b - Tue Sep 12 22:21:52 2000

thanks BND, but maybe you should have written that on the "we dont care" wall. this wall is for party issues.
Yvonne Googligong - Tue Sep 12 22:39:47 2000

Oh Mr Panteez, I thought you were a nice person but you have revealed yourself as just another of the bitter/twisted/old fish wives. I do get out and about, I also get the Q/Star but saw nothing in them. I don't usually pick up 3D but did and found the details. As for posters, well, my life does not dwell Oxford/King Street and haven't been to either for about a year. There is another world beyond those areas where lots of people live. Unfortunately posters dont reach that far my dearest. Hence my completely innocent question and unfortunately your snivelling bitchy reply. Of course this is a bitchy reply as well, but I didn't start it, I just dont take crap from arsewipes like yourself that are always on the attack.
Nicky - Wed Sep 13 9:37:00 2000

And all I can say is Touche to Nicky.-----Nicky 1 Panteez 0
Wed Sep 13 11:51:13 2000

Yeah ease up Panteez, I just read Nicky's post and he/she was asking for some info. All completely innocent and didn't need your foul comments. I too live in Sydney but dont hang out in the Oxford/King St areas and Party Posters usually dont go any further than those areas. Suggest you put on your shoes and go take a walk outside these areas and see where most of the rest of the world lives and still only 15 mins to city. Bad come down from the weekend ?
Johno - Wed Sep 13 13:10:25 2000

Right on Nicky and piss off Mr Panteez. The poster was just asking an innocent question. I live 20 mins from City/Oxford St area and I haven't seen any posters and as for the comment about putting on the shoes and going for a walk - baby why dont you go a take a walk and open your eyes and shove your acid comments up your...............
Steve B - Wed Sep 13 13:13:48 2000

It was Tuesday you fools.
Wed Sep 13 15:04:19 2000

chill, chill, chill
chill - Wed Sep 13 17:19:44 2000

Cafe Del Mar?
Wed Sep 13 17:33:44 2000

aaah, you kids made my day ! f.y.i I dont live on Oxford/Kind st (thank god). Steve B, are you the guy that DJs at DCM ? Nicky, you were mistaken to think that I was/am nice. but that's ok. Jesus still loves you.
El Panties - Wed Sep 13 18:18:12 2000

Splash at the Taylor Square Hotel Monday Night. DJ's Alex Taylor, Greg Boladian, Jamie Scibon and Mandy Rollins in The Barracks.Performances by Bus Stop and Lace. Deep funky sexy house and underwater activities.
Wed Sep 13 20:30:10 2000

El Panties - Wed Sep 13 18:18:12 2000 I hardly think DJ Steve B who plays at DCM would post on this board.Besides being straight (really really straight),and not having any affinity whatsoever with the G&L scene why would he come on here ? I looked in my diary and i know 4 Steves with B being the 1st letter of their surname.Im sure there are many many more.I love the way how you think it has to be a DJ.You make laugh !!
A>D - Wed Sep 13 21:02:18 2000

Steve B ?..Well theres always Steve Blomfield isnt there ?? I doubt it...i know he hates being called Steve,so its Stephen !!
Wed Sep 13 23:04:58 2000

Gee Panteez you cant even admit you were tough on Nicky. A little apology would have been nice. I agree with A>D, what sought of thinking got you round to thinking I was a DJ ?????? No I'm not. Glad I wasn't bitching about a party or you would have automatically put me down as a disgruntled DJ. Now say sorry to Nicky, its not too hard. You were after all a ripe *unt to him/her.
Steve B - Thu Sep 14 11:48:29 2000

HaHa...re sydney Uni...all i would think of at sydney Uni dance party would be doing that famous beat there !!! Tue Sep 12 13:55:35 2000 - where is it the beat?? I want to go!
Thu Sep 14 12:19:25 2000

Steve B - Do you honestly think panteez is going to apologise for one second ? Get a life,Panteez aint that sort of person.He is the type that will whinge and moan and bitch about anybody or anything and say that he/she doesnt have to justify his/her comments hiding behing the anonimity of pinkboard.The more attention you draw to this person the more delight this person gets.The best remedy is to use the good old faithful **IGnoRE** feature.It works everytime.
Thu Sep 14 12:23:48 2000

Go one Panteeeeeeez, make history and be the first to apologise for being an unnecessary *unt.
Anon - Thu Sep 14 12:56:56 2000

Don't Panteez! there's nothing wrong with being an aunt!
Thu Sep 14 15:19:24 2000

Well that was a huge anti climax. Just got back from Oxford Street / Taylors Square where I saw who the person who carried the torch down "our" gay street was. Some women called Thelma who is 87 years old who had a huge hand in organising the opening ceremony of the 1936 Berlin games was "our" representative. How very very inappropriate,the women (in a TV interview) even has a "cherished" signed certificate of appreciation from Adolf Hitler for her work in Berlin in 1936. Surely S.O.C.O.G must have some sort of understanding what Oxford Street means to the G&L community and should have had an appropriate torch bearer to match.
The Crap rolls on - Thu Sep 14 17:47:09 2000

My you are naive. Those idiots? But surely the drag shows all over the place and Dot Dingle DJing for want of a better word from the awning was enough to raise your spirits ...
Thu Sep 14 18:06:38 2000

Dot Dingle "DJ'ing" on the awning at the oxford ! HA ! I would have said "dot dingle playing music on the awning"...DJ'ing is a term reserved for those that actually have a clue as to what they are doing !!
playing one song after another dont make a DJ - Thu Sep 14 21:01:32 2000

Darling Nicky... I know that I'm a patronising ****, allways have been, always will be. apologise for it ? nah, I never do or say anything that I dont believe in. Steve B - ever heard of sarcasm ? next time I write something to you, I'll simplify it. ok ? and ..... to the anonymous person that mentioned to *ignore* button : where is it ? I cant find it on my browser. it sounds like a really handy function (sorry, being sarcastic again) I love you all. really, I honestly do.
Mr Panties - Thu Sep 14 21:28:47 2000

Don't buy into it Mr Panties. Next thing they'll be threatenining to "out" you as well. Like they know (not).
TW - Thu Sep 14 23:23:22 2000

Disappointed Mr Panteeeez, take note everyone that you'll be treated with sarcasm and zero respect. So learn not to reply to anything this bore dribbles.
With Nickyh - Fri Sep 15 9:09:57 2000

As I said before - The best measure to counteract a rude arrogant attention seeking pig is to **IGnoRE** it.If it gets no attention is slowly withers away and dies.
Fri Sep 15 10:46:27 2000

I just saw the poster for the "Grunt" party on the night of Sleaze Ball. What a DJ line up! I have a feeling this would be an extremely sexy/dirty party...decisions, decisions.....
Furry Growler - Fri Sep 15 13:34:56 2000

Re Grunt - I think the DJ line up they wanted was unavailable due to Sleaze commitments. As far as I am concerned, it is bad Karma to run a G&L dance party on the same night as a major fundraising event that hasn't sold out - even if it offers a real alternative. As for the $45 ticket, I hope they have a high production budget, coz that is the expectation for that price at the moment. Considering all of Oracle Lasers' stock will be used at Sleaze, it will be very interesting to see what the money is being spent on...
G - Fri Sep 15 13:45:31 2000

OK OK - Dear Nicky, I am truly sorry for being such a **** on a previous post. You were just asking an innocent question and I must stop thinking the world revolves around Darlinghurst/Newtown and that there are as many nice people living in the 'burbs. I am humble before you.
Mr Panties - Fri Sep 15 14:12:45 2000

That last post was SO not sincere !
Fri Sep 15 15:02:38 2000

indeed...so not sincere - keep that IGnORE function up and running !!!
Fri Sep 15 15:43:35 2000

"Mr Panties - Fri Sep 15 14:12:45 2000 " ... that wasnt me, but nice try. Chiclet can verify that I was quite busy at that time. Nicky, dont be a victim. see ya next week !
El Panteez - Fri Sep 15 18:05:15 2000

Well wasn't it good, wasn't it special, phenomenal even!!!!!
The Doctor and The Wordsmith - Fri Sep 15 23:44:38 2000

I don't see any theme to this wall
PaulDiamondo - Fri Sep 15 23:45:15 2000

yes, where is this beat at the uni?
Sat Sep 16 18:36:37 2000

I know where the beat at sydney uni is...its so famous i cant believe you people dont know where it is.....
im keeping it a secret...we dont want the scrubbers to find out do we ??? - Sat Sep 16 18:41:44 2000

Beats are soooo 80's
Chiclet - Sun Sep 17 1:22:38 2000

Exactly, and surely people who do beats are, by definition, scrubbers in the first place. Nothing wrong with that, of course, but the idea of an 'exclusive' public convenience is kinda odd.
~!@#$%^ - Sun Sep 17 15:31:17 2000

"beat talk" isnt appropriate for this wall. please stop it. there are other websites dedicated to that.
Sun Sep 17 23:37:19 2000

where ?
Mon Sep 18 9:08:12 2000

well i have had many a party in beats, so i believe it is appropriate to talk about the parties in beats on the party wall
Scrub-a-dub-dub - Mon Sep 18 15:22:07 2000

What walls are dedicated to beats in Sydney?
Mon Sep 18 16:09:15 2000

www.cruisingforsex.com now, go away !
Mon Sep 18 16:39:48 2000
DO@P also has BeatWatch for warnings about unsafe beats.

hmmmm.... Party wall ...... hmmmmm .... what do I do at a party?? ......apart from dance.... hmmmmm.... what do I do at a party when I'm high??? ..... hmmmmmm.

Yes I have decided that beat talk completely not appropriate here. Much better that we get back to trashing a DJ instead actually doing something fun together.
Mon Sep 18 18:40:07 2000

Yes people here are too peaceable at present. Must be the games.
Mon Sep 18 18:43:31 2000

Oh - that last little waft of nothingness was by me.
PaulDiamondo - Mon Sep 18 18:44:17 2000

Offensive message deleted.

I'd like to nominate Ric Birch to do the shows for our next Mardi Gras party
Mr Panties - Mon Sep 18 21:19:55 2000

I'd like to second the nomination (but not starring John Farnha, and Olivia. I didn't mean THAT).
EC - Mon Sep 18 21:59:25 2000

Offensive message deleted.

would ric birch be able to put together a show for only $20, because that is about all the party committee get given?
Mon Sep 18 22:36:51 2000

To the two posters who commented on David (DJ Baby Bear) at Arq on Fridays all i can say is that you are absolutely disgusting and i hope you die a slow and painful death.How totally plastic you people are.How dare you describe a persons appearance like that.Where does it say that you have to be a super spunk to be a DJ ? Quite franky i find you the lowest scum and life on this planet.Why dont you just go back to your gym and blast another half a dozen needles full of steriods into your pathetic existance.Ive written to Panther to complain and asked him to reveal your internet server...you need to be exposed for the vicious queens that you are.
Really pissed off - Mon Sep 18 23:42:42 2000

I have to agree with the above comment, to stoop so low as to victimise someone for the way they look.Why are some queens so bloody rude ? Bitter and full of self hate ? I think your cute DJ Baby Bear !
You should be ashamed ! - Tue Sep 19 11:26:55 2000

Baby Bear is cute and cuddly, not fat, and a very nice guy. How dare you!
Mara - Tue Sep 19 12:58:18 2000

Just a quick reminder...Tonight at Stonewall Hotel 8.30pm..'Laugh your Rings Off'..only $10 at the door. Some of out best community comics taking the piss out of the Olympics.
^Kerry - Tue Sep 19 13:27:27 2000

While on the subject of stonewall - I see that they have taken the cash in and milk the olympics for all they are worth by imposing a cover charge on most nights.How Bloody typical.Gee gay business people can be greedy sometimes.From the greed and higher than almighty attitude of the management at Arq to the laughable greed of the albury hotel adding a cover charge on weekends to Oxford and the poker machine debacle to the flinders who havent renovated the dump in the 20 years of its gay existance.Now Stonewall gets in on the act.What next ??? Probably a toll charge to walk down Oxford street.Some of these gay venues need a swift kick in the teeth for being so obnoxious to the G&L community.
Burn In Hell !! - Tue Sep 19 13:39:41 2000

I too was shocked by the charges Stonewall have imposed, as a frequent visitor to this venue over the past year the last thing I expected was to have to pay (except for entertainment other then the usual of course). C'mon Stonewall, don't jump on the bandwagon like the rest of them - surely the influx of people to Sydney has been more then enough for business to be booming...stop ripping the loyal public off !
Over it ! - Tue Sep 19 14:03:01 2000

Maybe fat and ugly is too harsh. Have you ever thought that David (babby bear) is not nice to everyone? It could be that he has pissed one too many people off! Think about that before you swing to defend. And as for exposing posters on this site, good luck.
so what - Tue Sep 19 15:32:12 2000

Just go to places where there is no cover charge. Those places tend to have a friendly and more relaxed crowd anyway.
Tue Sep 19 15:40:24 2000

re the previous post....so what if dj david has been nasty to people in the past,it has no bearing on calling him fat n ugly in the same breath as calling him a DJ...you are just as bad as the others and you are simply pathetic...you also need to get to the gym and inject some steriods you plastic queen you.
Tue Sep 19 15:40:41 2000

Gee it looks as if Baby bear has had the nerve to speak his mind!! how dare you, don't you know that we are all just put on the planet to imitate one another and not to under any circumstances piss off another Arq DJ???? All I know is that I was bored sh@tless at Arq on Saturday night (for $25 you'd expect more than the crap they play you), and everytime I've listened to Baby Bear, which is about 3 times, I've had some of my best nights out. Thanks Baby Bear.
Tue Sep 19 16:18:13 2000

Does anyone know of anything, besides Frisky, where you can go on the Oct long weekend? Any Homoelectus, no holes barred, Trade, Ffierce, Trash, anything??
Tue Sep 19 16:22:39 2000

there are privacey laws that prevent exposing people who post on this board.
Tue Sep 19 16:34:54 2000

I think saturday nights at arq is great. its friday nights that very little
Tue Sep 19 16:39:13 2000

you lot are so gaycentric. stay out of arq if you're not happy with the music.
Tue Sep 19 16:45:13 2000

Offensive message deleted.

What makes you think I'm gay?
You fool - Tue Sep 19 17:01:36 2000

Personal abuse deleted.

RE ARQ on saturday nights: What do you all think about the current situation of the upstairs room where one DJ (in this case Paul Goodyear) is forced to play the whole night which in recent weeks has turned into anywhere between a 12 to 15 hour non stop shift.I dont care how good a DJ Goodyear is,I dont think its fair on the crowd to have to put up with one DJ for that long a period.Its about time that ARQ spilt the Saturday night upstairs shift in two.What do you all think ???
Arqness - Tue Sep 19 17:17:28 2000

Offensive messages deleted.

just to change the subject because it all kinda hateful check out this way cool site www.inthemix.com.au
stop with the other shit - Tue Sep 19 21:03:11 2000

that site is dreary. sorry
Chiclet - Tue Sep 19 21:34:00 2000

oh ... and Yeah !
Tue Sep 19 21:34:59 2000

its better than the last few posting chicfu#kwit
Tue Sep 19 21:55:23 2000

Anyone have the goss on Grunt?
Wed Sep 20 18:42:21 2000

Potentially libelous message deleted.

name some names that have let paul go as a friend
???????? - Wed Sep 20 20:16:09 2000

We all sound vile? Excuse me anonymous one but read what you have just said about Paul Goodyear and Steve Carley. What a nasty hypocrite you are. Not that your post will last long given that it is incredibly libelous.
EC - Wed Sep 20 20:24:30 2000

whats incredibly libelous about ec????
Wed Sep 20 20:31:12 2000

Well I was once a very close friend of paul goodyear,and like many many others I have had my friendship cut off for no reason whatsoever (or if there is a reason he refuses to tell me what it is).It upsets me greatly cause I once considered him a close friend and now there is barely any recognition from him when we see each other in public.I wish I knew what the problem is,but unfortunately its out of my hands.
Confused and upset - Wed Sep 20 20:34:55 2000

Oh and by the way,you will never hear me (regardless of our current situation) say a bad word about Goodyear as I rate him still to be one of Australia's finest DJ's.
Confused and Upset - Wed Sep 20 20:38:00 2000

loooooooooooser
Wed Sep 20 21:03:22 2000

deaf loser
Wed Sep 20 21:23:37 2000

well the last 2 postings were about as constructive as a pig in mud
Wed Sep 20 21:48:27 2000

unlike yours, lightning wit...
Thu Sep 21 0:55:01 2000

playing one song after another dont make a DJ - Thu Sep 14 21:01:32 2000 Correct me if I am wrong! But is this not what the Radio DJ's of Dingles youth would do and still be considered a DJ! I think what your talking about is a 'turntablist' that can beat mix a funky bassline under "Up Up and away in my Beautiful Balloon". Which Dot did play for the flame hungry crowd who screamed with joy when it came on. Give me more of Dot he has a camp edge that many forget from which our origins sprung from. I am not saying Dot is that old but some of the 45" are, and they are also timeless....
Enough of the bitchin while flame of Olympic Peace is burning! - Thu Sep 21 1:30:39 2000

Arqness - Tue Sep 19 17:17:28 2000 - FYI - 15 Hours for any person, in any job is a long time. Especially if your work enviroment can send you deaf... has Arq heard of Workcover? I guess not! Not this is not a comment about his ability to DJ, Paul is a great DJ! What happened to Steven Alkins playing half the night? Am I so out of touch?
The Flame! - Thu Sep 21 1:37:35 2000

You don't just sound vile - you all are vile. This wall is rotting in its own putridness. This is hateful. There are also no privacy laws that prevent addresses being published.
lovin' it - Thu Sep 21 10:31:33 2000

name some names that have let paul go as a friend ???????? - Wed Sep 20 20:16:09 2000
Name some names who call him a friend is more like it! - Thu Sep 21 11:00:13 2000

Now back to my question, is there anywhere happening on the October long weekend except for Frisky (& the closing ceremony!) to go out??? any parties or recommendations of any sort?
Say no to Arq - Thu Sep 21 11:03:43 2000

Has Frisky sold out ?
Johno - Thu Sep 21 13:34:46 2000

yes...definitely yes.
Thu Sep 21 14:17:53 2000

The last few times Ive been to ARQ on Sat is has been fabulous all night. However, I think regardless of Paul's talent it would be nice to hear other talented Dj's during a night out rather than the same one start to finish.
Thu Sep 21 15:18:57 2000

it is against the law (telecommunications act)to publish personal details of posters.
Thu Sep 21 15:52:21 2000

will the real Mr Panties please stand up !
Fat Sunny - Thu Sep 21 17:08:43 2000

Oh NO - I want the real panties to stay seated.He blocks the view of 1000's when he stands !
Thu Sep 21 18:51:34 2000

Pretty obvious that Mr Panties is a nobody. Otherwise, he would be too bloody busy with the Games et al to have all that time to continue his vile crap on here. Anyone who is remotely a somebody has their ring hanging out at the moment. Proved the point Panties - you are a vile nobody.
Thu Sep 21 19:01:19 2000

this letter was sent to the flinders hotel.... Let me express my disgust at the current state of the Flinders Hotel. After all the crap that the Oxford Hotel went through with its publicity re poker machines I cannot for the life of me see have you have the gaul to do what you have done to the back room of The Flinders. The back room and its now pulled down bar was once one of the nicer aspects of the hotel.You have destroyed the decor of that area. I was willing to accept a few machines but what I saw this weekend just gone was downright disgusting.That room is just like an RSL club with a zig zag of machines everywhere. I am on the mailing list for the Flinders web site (http://flinders-hotel.tripod.com) and I am truly amazed at the complaints on the web site that you and your management clearly shrug off and ignore with replusive contempt. I am sick of receiving flinders email newsletters hinting and promising renovations to the hotel. It has been one lie after another. If you intend on renovating keep you promises. If you dont intend on renovating dont lie to the public and give false impressions. I have been a regular and faithful patron of your venue for about 5 years.I will no longer spend a single cent at your venue while you continue to not spend a cent back on the way the hotel is presented to the public. I have many friends who go to the Flinders. I shall be lobbying them all to take the same approach to no longer patronise your venue. I see no point whatsoever in going to a venue where the place has disgusting sound,pathetic lighting,laughable drag shows,appauling out of date strippers and a decor that looks like a freek show from the 1960's and 70's. I have told my friends to write to you and complain.Some will also be writing to the gay media to complain.I see no point in posting comment on the web site because you simply ignore it. Maybe a bit of bad publicity in the press might stir up some positive action from your establishment
ex-regular - Thu Sep 21 19:20:54 2000

"We all sound vile? Excuse me anonymous one but read what you have just said about Paul Goodyear and Steve Carley. What a nasty hypocrite you are. Not that your post will last long given that it is incredibly libelous. EC - Wed Sep 20 20:24:30 2000"
Still on there you FOOL - Thu Sep 21 19:22:01 2000

Panther must be on a holiday
Thu Sep 21 19:31:53 2000
Correct.

"Thu Sep 21 19:01:19 2000 " uhhh, yeah ... thanks for those choice words. yeah, I'm a nobody, I have nothing to do with anything, I sit at my PC all day reading pinkboard and writing anonymous messages about monotonous subjects.
El Panteez (well, the bit reguarding monotonous subjects is at least true) - Thu Sep 21 21:42:19 2000

and a big hello to Fat Sunny ! see ya tommorow night !
" " - Thu Sep 21 21:43:49 2000

The fact that it's still there just means Panther is not being as vigilant as he should be, but then it's an arduous task. The sad bit about it all is that people should make such incredibly personal comments about other human beings here. This is supposed to be a wall for discussing parties and not about how individuals conduct their personal relationships.
EC - Fri Sep 22 13:25:53 2000

But you are somebody Mr Panteez, a nobody. After your vileness on one of my postings awhile back, I just hope other posters are awake up to the fact that you are a capital ****. It would great to have a Wall for ****s and a Wall for Bitches so you lot could piss of to them and leave the "nicer" crowd to be civil to each other.
Nickyh - Fri Sep 22 13:34:31 2000

Is everyone on a permanent come-down now?
Fri Sep 22 15:42:44 2000

There is one sure way to find out if Panther is there. Mention that R debate. So who'll take the first pot shot?
Fri Sep 22 16:40:27 2000

ok. I'll do it. Rohypnol!
Fri Sep 22 17:55:13 2000

poor Nickyh. such the victim : (
Fri Sep 22 23:30:00 2000

Ever day is Eccie Tuesday here these days.
Sat Sep 23 9:21:12 2000

Maybe some 5htp should be included in the safe sex packs, to ease some of the cranky come-downs : )
thank god for Frisky! - Sat Sep 23 11:49:24 2000

Monday 25th. Party at the Taylor Square Hotel with Alex Taylor, Jamie Scibon, Greg Boladian, Bertha, Bus Stop and Candy Box. Celabrating the Mens Gymnastics Finals. Don't come down, jump on the pads and come back up.
Powder - Sat Sep 23 21:32:09 2000

well this weekends wall is a tad barren !
Mon Sep 25 2:07:06 2000

Probably because there is so little happening on the gay and lesbian party scene. Which brings me to the question: what is happening this weekeend party wise. This coming long weekend is going to be huge with the Olympics finishing, but will we have anywhere to go apart from Olympics venues, the usual gay bars and clubs, and Frisky which is sold out (not that I'd go to Frisky either).
TW - Mon Sep 25 9:47:21 2000

The rumours are true...HomoEclectus will be presenting a Sunday night recovery November 12! DJ line up includes Thao, Vic, Reiki Aura, 2Hard, Oberon, Miss Yetti, Robert Lake and Lanny K. Stay tuned for more details.
HomoEclectus - Mon Sep 25 10:50:18 2000

2 weeks to go to Brisbane Sleaze Ball on 7th October.We have our party and plane tickets have you got yours. Last year was brilliant and this year promises to be even bigger.
Brissie here we come - Mon Sep 25 11:44:19 2000

Brisbane Sleaze Ball - Fantastic. I get to hear Paul Goodyear play every Saturday at Arq,now I travel to Brisbane,and I'm gonna hear him again D'oH !
Mon Sep 25 11:51:59 2000

Does anyone know the DJ lineup for the recovery party at 'Gas' after the Diva Awards ?
Mon Sep 25 14:04:50 2000

Dear confused and upset, you are one of many people who have been led to believe you had a friendship with Paul Goodyear. No need to be confused, Paul is just needing more x friends to dish dirt out on during the infamous story telling (bitching) sessions. Paul is still a very good DJ, regardless.
Tom Tom - Mon Sep 25 19:12:31 2000
This is the opinion of the poster.

Apparantly to get on Goodyears "Bad Side" all you need to do is play a Stephen Allkins Track (which are all significantly Superb Productions) and he hates your guts for it.
U should feel pretty good by Now - Mon Sep 25 19:20:56 2000
This is the opinion of the poster.

Tom Tom,you need to clarrify yourself.What you said was very confusing as well.
Q - Mon Sep 25 20:48:06 2000

Tom Tom can i summerise what you are trying to say - are you saying Good DJ,Bad person ??? Is that what you mean ?
Q - Mon Sep 25 20:55:00 2000

goodyear often writes on this wall. I know for a fact as I have been with him while his posting messages.
gottya - Mon Sep 25 21:20:21 2000
This is the opinion of the poster.

re the last post - my comment - i doubt it !!!
Mon Sep 25 23:06:26 2000

Whatever. I was there and helped him word a responce
Mon Sep 25 23:43:26 2000

re the last post - my comment - i doubt it !!!
Mon Sep 25 23:49:23 2000

Potentially libelous message deleted.

Why do Australians more so than ANY other country have this foul tall poppy syndrome ? Paul Goodyear is at the top of his field as a DJ yet you all try to drag him back to midfield .It really disturbs me.
Tue Sep 26 12:12:15 2000

Oops sorry, that above comment was my opinion only!
Tue Sep 26 12:13:42 2000

Well not the one directly above but the one above that.
Tue Sep 26 12:17:08 2000

Why do Australian gaymen enjoy bitching so much ? your like a pack of hyienas only not as attractive !! I have been reading this board as an overseas visitor for the past few days hoping someone will say something, anything slightly inspiring but no such bloody luck, you guys need to grow up a little.
disappointed.. - Tue Sep 26 13:25:48 2000

disappointed Tue Sep 26 13:25:48 2000 = then f*ck off and go back where u came from (oops that is a joke),we love our overseas tourists.welcome to sydney my friend !!!
Tue Sep 26 14:10:09 2000

Disappointed - plese don't take this board as being reflective of gay boys in Sydney. Its intention was to be constructive and proactive, but it merely serves two purposes: (1) an outlet for promoters, DJs and other indutstry types suffering from manic depression, insecurity and jealousy, and (2) for industry types to read for gossip and to gauge the most bitchy thing about them or their parties to see if its credible and able to be improved; and possibly (3) those who read for the purposes of No 2 and post a reaction in defense. I, of course, am a number 2!
Tue Sep 26 14:13:17 2000

So many bitter and twisted wanna-be DJs, so few gigs available ...
Tue Sep 26 14:24:18 2000

Dear Disappointed - add up the number of different posts and you will see its only a handfull of bores. The rest of the community is not like that.
xxxxxxxxxxxx - Tue Sep 26 14:51:54 2000

Go on - take advantage of what's on offer - chuck a sickie tomorrow and come along to Gatecrasher tonight - will be the party of the year. Tall Paul, Anthony Pappa, Robbie Nelson, plus a couple of Sydney unknowns like Nik Fish, Jon Ferris, Nervous and Ben Korbel.... Monster!
Wastrel & Strumpet - Tue Sep 26 16:19:12 2000

So many bitter and twisted wanna-be DJs, so few gigs available ... Tue Sep 26 14:24:18 2000 I could not think of anything worse then being a DJ in Sydney and having to read comments like mine, why would you?
Tue Sep 26 16:55:41 2000

Hi HomoEclectus - can u please tell me when and where I can buy tix? Thought the last one was unreal! Thank, Jez.
Jez - Tue Sep 26 17:09:42 2000

"plus a couple of Sydney unknowns like Nik Fish, Jon Ferris, Nervous and Ben Korbel.... Monster!" unknowns? please. Theses DJ's have been around for over 10 years. There the best at what they do.
Tue Sep 26 17:46:21 2000

I think the 'unknowns' bit was a joke, Joyce.
Tue Sep 26 19:15:12 2000

Re the posting a few days ago about the Flinders Hotel...... The Flinders now looks more like a brightly lit casino than a gay bar and dance venue. Its a shame because I used to go there quite alot.Now you wouldnt catch me dead in there. Due to the pokies it is now way too bright (more like a solarium than a nightclub) and the place has gone to rack and ruin.Its the Only gay space left in Darlinghurst that has not given back to the community by way of a renovation over the years. I am sure that if i could get in a time machine and go back 20 years then what I would find at the Flinders then would be a carbon copy of how it looks now.A Disgrace ! First the Oxford,now the Flinders.Another gay venue down the toilet ! Flush !
troyboy - Wed Sep 27 1:30:47 2000

**** HomoEclectus are proud to present >>> Homo Au Go-Go <<< **** Sunday 12 November from 8pm to 3am **** Eden Nightclub, 88 Oxford Street **** Tix are $10 and available on the night at the door **** DJs up: Robert Lake, Oberon, Miss Yetti, Lanny K **** DJs down: Thao, Vic, Reiki Aura, 2Hard ****
HomoEclectus - Wed Sep 27 14:50:09 2000

Potentially libelous message deleted.

Oh my god... Eden??? Say it's not true.
bassborg - Wed Sep 27 16:02:09 2000

the above posting is fu#king great
laugh hard - Wed Sep 27 16:02:24 2000

What was Eden in a past life ? ie previous names please ?
J - Wed Sep 27 16:34:46 2000

yeah, where is eden?
Wed Sep 27 16:55:28 2000

Eden used to be Red Bull cafe...heard it was the only venue they could get.
Wed Sep 27 17:19:00 2000

I think it's one thing to critisise the DJ for his music, but let's not go down the track of critising their partners for their looks.
Be fair. - Wed Sep 27 17:24:57 2000

Too Funny! I wanna meet the person who came up with that.
Too Good - Wed Sep 27 18:52:00 2000

i am sure wilma can take any shit you lot dish out - god she even wore an outfit last year with the word "C@nt" plastered across the front for all to see
Wed Sep 27 20:06:04 2000

Eden is tiny, has a capacity of about 300 ppl - maybe 175 on the ground floor and 125 downstairs. Any more than that and an oxygen mask might be a worthwhile accessory. When's the Palladium gonna be back?
I'll be there all the same... - Wed Sep 27 21:59:31 2000

No , no , no, you have it all wrong. Eden is a lovely little town south of Nowra NSW ! Gorgeous place it is !
Thu Sep 28 1:15:41 2000

I thought Eden was the place Adam and Eve were cast out of for the original sin of apple-eating/talking to snakes, by a loving and forgiving God who just happened to be having another extremely bad day.
Thu Sep 28 2:37:59 2000

Theres an even nicer place up the road but it is 'East of Eden'
Thu Sep 28 11:26:37 2000

Maybe it's in Barbara Eden!!!! :-()
i'll be there too!! - Thu Sep 28 11:32:06 2000

Was the Palladium a decent size ? I enjoy parties at Metro but the dance floors are just way too small and would be great if could find a venue slightly bigger. Was Palladium like that ?
Johno - Thu Sep 28 15:30:58 2000

as great as the palladium was, the dance floor area is smaller than metro. why do you want larger dance floor areas anyway?
Shaerin - Thu Sep 28 15:46:06 2000

I prefer smaller, more intimate spaces as compared to larger ones, like the metro, hordern, rhi, etc...especially for recovery parties. Maybe I'll throw one in my bedroom...or better yet, my bathroom! Enemas all around!
kinkymistresswhoonlykissesfrogs - Thu Sep 28 17:02:41 2000

Boy you guys can get it wrong. It's Barbara Eden in the opening show at Sleaze.
Thu Sep 28 17:58:51 2000

Errrr Shaerin , each to his own so get lost with the why ? I'm not talking about Hordern/RHI size just something say about 4 or 6 times the size of Metro dance floor ( not the venue as its great ) just the dance floor size , thats all love , an innocent little question that just needed a reply.
Johno - Fri Sep 29 9:31:38 2000

Offensive message deleted.

Saturday night at ARQ will remain the same. Paul G is instrumental in the placing of his guests. He only agrees to people who will not match his style and therefore making him look better. Take for example the deep bitch boys (and every other guest he has agreed upon), compared to the stuff paul plays their appearance is not up to standard.
Fri Sep 29 10:07:09 2000
This is the opinion of the poster.

That last posting is the biggest pieces of garbage i have ever heard.Chris who is the manager at Arq makes decisions on the guest DJ's on Saturday nights.He does *****NoT***** consult Paul Goodyear as to who plays or doesn't.Enough Said.
Fact - Fri Sep 29 10:52:59 2000
This is the opinion of the poster.

Panther please do something about those posts on Paul Goodyear's wife. The personal nature of the attacks on him are appalling enough but this is really sinking to new lows.
EC - Fri Sep 29 12:34:41 2000

oooooooohhhh Shaerin, the poor boy was asking a question. You answered but whats with the why ? do you have to be bitchy like the rest ? different strokes for..........my dear. I agree Johno, luv Frisky's and the venue size but prefer the dancefloor to the stepped bleaches and wish it was bigger but not HOrdern bigger.
Paul - Fri Sep 29 13:58:40 2000

EC - I think the personnal attacks started a bit further up the page, not only on him but another DJ as well, however you're still right.
Fri Sep 29 16:23:20 2000

Panther is on holidays - isn't he?
Fri Sep 29 17:32:06 2000

I think he should check it up soon or he'll be coming home to a lawsuit. And rightly so. I have saved this page and Emailed it to Paul.
Mara - Fri Sep 29 20:35:33 2000

Poor Panther. You try to provide the community with a service and this is what happens. The end of the message boards looms large.
Fri Sep 29 21:44:51 2000

Well, these boards provide nothing positive. I am in the industry and like everyone else only read it to see who is writing about me and my friends. Can't wait to see the end of it and stop wasting time reading it!
Fri Sep 29 22:34:07 2000

Potentiallty libelous message deleted.

boys, boys, boys, i innocently asked johno why he wanted a bigger dance floor and unless i am missing something here i cannot see what is so vile and nasty about that! please let me know
Shaerin - Sat Sep 30 15:32:58 2000

Don't forget to use http://www.anonymiser.com when posting liable comments about people's boyfriends
This message brought to you by your friendly neighbourhood sticky-beak who likes to watch people bitch at each other - Sat Sep 30 20:08:48 2000

does anyone know what recoveries are worth going to on monday morning?
curious - Sat Sep 30 20:19:33 2000

Pride New Years Eve DJ's are being selected this weekend. Any tips or ideas ? I've got a few including another prominent lesbian dj (not kate munroe) being almost in charge of the selections - will she pick herself like Munroe did for NYE last year ? I would'nt surprise me in the slightest.I so love people who have a conflict of interest !!!
Adopt a Dot - Sat Sep 30 20:20:04 2000

Dear Nitegroove, you should have a confidentiality agreement with your dancers. The secret about Kylie at tomorrow night's Frisky is now well-known, and a great surprise needlessly ruined. Your staff are letting you down, JoJo.
Disappointed Friskian - Sat Sep 30 21:36:51 2000

to curious.looking for a great recovery, well why don't you try the midnight shift .it opens from 7.00am all thru the day. outlandish activities,and downright dirty d.j's including sveta,mandy rollins,bill morley,david smith and jamie sciban.$5.00 pre sale up in the lounge includes queue jump.see you there!!!!
shift master - Sat Sep 30 22:21:54 2000

Tonight, Sydney's drag performers take pride of place at the closing ceremony of the Sydney Olympics. 52 performers in all. We have seen the outfits the girls have come up with... amazing!!! love or hate drag, this is a world first... only in Sydney. They will be bussed to the Oxford Hotel afterwards for a celebration party. $10.00 entry, from 9pm, all of which goes to DIVA/ACON.
DIVA committee - Sun Oct 1 1:54:19 2000

Drag queens **not** miming would actually be a world first.
... please don't embarass us. - Sun Oct 1 14:51:12 2000

any news on post-Olympics parties? Seems like everyone is still partying or in bed. Would love some goss.
Mon Oct 2 13:43:44 2000

Dear disappointed Friskian, are you disappointed that your substantially correct rumour wasn't? Do you feel sucked in, or is your rumour monger still reliable? *not* The FX at the party were spectacular. The music, as always, brilliant, and the crowd, without attitude. If you are going, looking for a name artist (apart from JoJo), stay at home and listen to their CD :-) Hope you had a nice time, whatever you did :-)
Frisky Rulz - Mon Oct 2 14:24:58 2000

Another great Frisky party. Loved the shows, especially the hunky nude guys in the later show.....yuuuummeeeee. Everything else was up to its usual Frisky standard. Fantastic! Well done to JoJo and crew.
jeffgg - Mon Oct 2 17:58:30 2000

my first (& last) Frisky was revolting. these queens that rave about frisky... dont they have any taste ? I've travelled the world & been to many clubs, but I've never seen anything as tacky as this. 18yo twinks that couldnt walk cause they'd bumped too much K .... suburban heffers with glow sticks ... no thanks ! I got out of there at 3am & went to Phoenix. the music was rockin & the crowd was hot. seems that all the spunks have left Arq and are doing Phoenix now. so .. what did you do ???
Tracky Daxx - Mon Oct 2 23:01:13 2000

Here we go again ...
Tue Oct 3 13:45:04 2000

gotta say i agree about the latest frisky ... what a bummer. after lining-up for tickets and waiting weeks in anticipation the place was just waaaaay too crowded and full twinks. and just exactly what was with the music?!? everything about the night just seemed a little off. anyone else notice the same phenom?
former Frisky lover - Tue Oct 3 15:37:32 2000

The music was the same as always....exactly the same.....song for song
Tue Oct 3 17:53:54 2000

Wankers - definately one of the best Frisky parties yet. And what about GAS for the recovery with Jo Jo doing an extra hour until 2pm. Hope the recoveries continue. Did they used to happen ever?
Tue Oct 3 20:15:04 2000

The Fisky Party was amazing.
happy customer - Tue Oct 3 20:44:01 2000

Did anyone go to the shift recovery, i heard it was quiet
Tue Oct 3 21:29:36 2000

Arq on sunday wasn't too good either.The Deni Hines this put a downer on things.I mean,Arq is a dance club and she was sung 4 (!) very slow/funky songs.Didnt really work.
Madonna - Tue Oct 3 21:32:25 2000

wow ! Jojo is legendary ! he could be the next Danny Tenaglia. and extra hour ? no way ! he must have been exhausted. he'd have to carry lots of extra records to go for a whole hour longer than he'd planned. why doesnt he ever play at mardi gras or sleaze ? oh, that's right ....
Chiclet - Tue Oct 3 22:03:35 2000

tsk tsk Chiclet.
EC - Tue Oct 3 22:18:08 2000

Now for some constructive critism of Frisky. The posting a few days ago about the diappointed Friskian was clealy not knocking Frisky, but was concerned that JoJo likes to keep secrets and he may have a potential leak. Of course, Kylie was not there and no major acts were either. The $10 increase in ticket price (again), as well as the closing Olympic night, had most with higher expectations than a normal Frisky, but it did not deliver. The crowd was highly charged, but did not "go off" as it should have. Same for the recovery - Gas is not a great venue. Looks great, but never goes off. The main party - JoJo was above his standard of late, but the last 3/4 of an hour was exactly the same (Perfect Day, El Nino, etc) - throughout his set he chose safe (older)tracks, some mixed well, some terribly mixed. Luke was great as always, but nothing to differentiate what he would play at ARQ. Sound was below average for Frisky. Laser show same, lots of it (too much?), no sense of building an atmosphere with lighting. Atmosphere was 10% of the New Years party when it should have been 200%. Everything full bore from the start and quickly tiring. JoJo might have been preoccupied leading up to Frisky - numerous corrections to the newsletter and poor layout. Theming relatively non-existent, the return of the Faces of Vision from NY Day (the first time he has used a concept in its entirety twice). Two video screens inside and one outside a first, but added about $2000 maximum to what should have been a $10000 increase in budget. If production costs increase for the same standard, he should be letting ticket buyers know that is the reason for the increase, not to heighten production expectations. Perhaps he had the intention of a "super Frisky" but it looked slapped together - less effort than normal. Yes it was crowded, but not as crowded as the last Frisky. Either it as not really a sell out or ticket holders did not turn up. Or perhaps there was a lot of crowd movement in and out during the night, which is understandable given the importance of the night. Overall still lots of fun but the magic is waning. Everything has its use by date, perhaps Frisky's time has close at hand? If he changes direction, it will not be Frisky, so JoJo has painted himself into a corner perhaps?
Friskian - Wed Oct 4 1:34:17 2000

Friskian - Thanks for your constructive criticism. This is the type of comment that I constantly hope for on Pinkboard.
Panther - Wed Oct 4 9:01:27 2000

Friskian - who is the artist who sings Perfect Day?
Wed Oct 4 10:37:07 2000

I agree with lots of the comments Friskian made. This Frisky was not as good as the last ImO. The crowd were pretty great - charged but yeah didnt seem to go off. Everyone was friendly and attitude-free though which was a plus. The music wasn't bad but it didn't make me go WoW like the last Frisky did. A lot of the standard tracks were played that get played at every party - I like to hear them but it just seemed a little too much this time. I loved the sound in the main room but the front room sound was crap so I stayed away. I agree the lasers were the same but I love them so much anyway! I hadn't seen the faces before so I thought that was pretty cool... but other than that the theming/decorations did not impress. I agree with former Frisky lover.... something just seemed off about the whole thing - my Bf thought the same too. Anyway..... apart from these criticisms I enjoyed it overall and I would definately go again. I just hope the ticket price goes back to normal and I hope Frisky regains that special touch it kinda lost this time around.
FriskyBoy - Wed Oct 4 10:46:35 2000

I was just about to ask the same thing about Perfect Day. I love that track and wanna get it!
FriskyBoy - Wed Oct 4 10:48:46 2000

I'm glad to see that no one from the Frisky team has responded to the above comments (yet!). If you don't like the format of the party (that still sells out in less than 1/2 Hour), don't go! Frisky is not for everyone and it does evolve slightly every party which, in some people's minds, means degradation. Perhaps the changes suit some people and not others but the crowd still has heaps of fun in what is a very queer safe space. Given the aggression and changes at our 'so called' gay venues, Frisky is always a safe space catering to the freedom of choice of the gay and lesbian community. Please respect that!
Wed Oct 4 11:02:36 2000

Oh yes, Frisky contributes, and has done for some years, to the Gay & lesbian Rights Lobby's admin coffers, and now to 2002 as well. Thanks Jo Jo and Olivia for giving us back so much - hope you get something out of it despite the criticisms!
Wed Oct 4 11:08:17 2000

OH Gawwwddddd !!!! Do you mean to tell me that JoJo is ***Still*** playing "Perfect Day" at every single Frisky ? I mean fair go,The Boys at Free Fm got knocked for giving that track a whirl at one of their parties over 18 months ago ! I actually played it out about 2-3 weeks ago for a bit of a giggle but it hadnt seen the light of this DJ's day for well over 2 years ! It's great to play oldies in a DJ set but when it gets to the point that you have a "signature" tune at one major event after another after another as Jojo has seemingly adopted "Perfect Day" then one must question the mans abilty as a DJ.Either his abilty as a DJ or his lack of imagination !
Indigo - Wed Oct 4 11:11:02 2000

"Perfect Day" by Indigo was released on Central Station records in 1997 with the dance remixes by Almighty.It was re-released in 1998 with new mixes (Including a faster 138bpm mix).The girl from Indigo who was the lead singer passed away at the end of 1999 in a car accident.Almighty records in the UK will be re-releasing it again in December or January to commerate the 1st anniversary of her death.
Indigo - Wed Oct 4 11:17:11 2000

As far as I can remember Perfect Day wasn't played at the previous Frisky to this weekend's one. To The DJ that criticised - why don't u put together a party as loved as Frisky? The crowd all cheered when the song came on.
Not Another Bitchy Wannabe DJ... show us what u can do! - Wed Oct 4 11:29:48 2000

Not Another Bitchy Wannabe DJ... show us what u can do! - Wed Oct 4 11:29:48 2000 - if you check back on this board after every frisky party there is a comment about how JoJo played "perfect day".
Fact before fiction - Wed Oct 4 11:44:01 2000

Who cares what he played as long as the majority of people enjoyed it. You can't please all the people all the time, so get over it and move on!
Wed Oct 4 11:51:46 2000

exactly.....everyone cheered when the song came on so who cares fi he played it last time as well? As long as people enjoy it.
Wed Oct 4 12:02:10 2000

If thats your attitude,well then let me put this to you.If JoJo taped his set at Frisky then maybe he can play the tape at the next party instead of physically having to DJ.Would that get the desired effect for you ?
Wed Oct 4 12:05:58 2000

The music certainly isn't the same every time and no a tape wouldn't do! Stop hating. If you don't like JoJo or Frisky then leave it for those many people that *do* enjoy it to have their fun.
Wed Oct 4 12:16:58 2000

Well if you keep playing the same songs at party after party after party then you leave yourself wide open for this sort of critisism.
Wed Oct 4 12:21:44 2000

I don't get what all the fuss it about. If you say that Frisky is the same thing over and over again then don't go to the next one if you already know what to expect and don't like it. Simple as that. I personally go to Frisky because of that very same reason. I know it's going to be a good night. The format, the DJ's, it's one night I have no doubt that I will enjoy the music and the atmosphere. I say don't change a thing. Frisky doesn't happen that regularly to warrant a change in format anyhow. The only thing becoming tired is crap comments about the party from people who continue to go even though it isn't their idea of a good time in the first place. Keep up the good work JoJo, the party goes off every time.
Frisky Jnr. - Wed Oct 4 12:42:26 2000

OK enough about Frisky... something else must have happened over the weekend??
Wed Oct 4 13:37:39 2000

OK then,so all you frisky fans will be more than happy to hear JoJo play "Perfect Day" at every single Frisky party from now on ? Is that want you want ?
Wed Oct 4 14:02:35 2000

Just a couple of corrections - not bitchig.JoJo did play perfect day at the 4th Birthday as well, half way through his set. Each time it is played, there is a mixed reaction. One quarter scream at recognition of the track, the rest roll their eyes sarchasisticaly and dance anyway coz they are off their faces by that time. It is a fallacy that Frisky sells out in 1.2 an hour. It hasn't had that in 18 months. The decision to cut Daily Male was an attempt to concentrate the crowds to two outlets and make it seem like there is a line up. The last line up was the first time there has been one in a year. Still, tickets were still available as late as last Wednesday at One Stop DeeJay. It has definitely passed its peak. Still fun but lookng and sounding very tired on Sunday night when it should have been the best Frisky ever, an opportunity to turn its popularity around again.The crowd that used to make it special simply doesn't go anymore, but perhaps they are just over regular parties generally, or because it is that Frisky doesn't deliver the goos anymore. Who knows? Styles have changed in the last couple of years, JoJo's trance has become mainsteam and can be heard every week everywhere else. Which just leaves Frisky with lasers and what is still a great venue, but some are tiring of. A victim of the ARQ's and the Hey Homos as well. It comes back to use by date I guess.
Wed Oct 4 14:07:42 2000

How many tracks are played over the course of a 9 hour party?? If he wants to play that track every time and the crowd cheers and woohooo's every time then why not? If you are not a frisky fan then why do you care what tracks he plays? If the crowd all leave the room and booo at the track then stop playing it. If the people that pay to go to the party wanna hear it then let them! I don't go into your living room and criticise whatever music you are playing. If you don't like Frisky - Dont go and let people enjoy it.
Wed Oct 4 14:13:18 2000

The point is tht Frisky is losing its core crowd. Some might like hearing the sme key tracks every time but most don't and and steadily "not going". This is a chance for JoJo to read some feedback from poeple who are too kind to say it to his face and destroy his unique enthusiasm. He can refflect on all this without becoming defenisve and potentially bitter to his friends who care and are just trying to help. What makes Frsiky is people having their friends around them, and when the friends stop going, well we know what happens next. There is some life left in the aging format and we are just trying to help him extract as much as possible from it.
Wed Oct 4 14:28:49 2000

Maybe I can get Jake Kilby to play "perfect day" at sleaze ball in the RHI and then that way you can all enjoy it twice on the same weekend after attending Sleaze Frisky !
Im rolling my eyes - Wed Oct 4 14:46:05 2000

You Friskettes sure are an excitable lot. You're gonna reap just what you sow.
Wed Oct 4 14:48:07 2000

so doesn't anybody feel sorry about the girl from indigo who died in a car crash ? Its so sad !
Wed Oct 4 15:11:13 2000

I am sad for her. Perhaps she reaped what she sowed? Perhaps she was the victim of a poor mix or couldn't see the cross fade coming around the corner and hit the next track head on?
Wed Oct 4 15:18:17 2000

Perhaps she was drinking too much at "La Premiere" after picnic lunch at the park? She was, after all, catching a movie or two and then going home.
Wed Oct 4 15:20:48 2000

Homo Eclectus pres Homo au Go-Go Hi Everyone, Just a short note to let you know Homo Eclectus will be happening on the Sleaze weekend....But instead of an alternative on the night, where doing a small recovery on the Sunday night 12th November.. This is going to be small recovery for about 300 to 400 people max... Dj's for the night are: Upstairs - Robert Lake, Oberon, Miss Yetti & Lanny k Downstairs - Thao, Vic & Reiki Aura V's 2Hard (playing back to back for 3 hours) The venue is Eden Nightclub at 88 Oxford Street... Costing is only a mere $10 on the door, no pre-sale's... We will be going from 8pm till 3am, due to no public holiday the following day... Hope to see you all there...:-))
H - E - Wed Oct 4 15:39:36 2000

i have been to every frisky party - even when they were held at Orb (!) all those years ago. i am an avid fan of frisky. i have noticed though that the "magic" of the frisky parties is starting to wane. i can remember virtually screaming at just about every track of the night in years past - but last sunday i actually sat down for at least half of the party because i did not find some of the music all that inspiring, and no i was not on drugs, as i never take them, (i always get off on the energy of the crowd). i would like to see some variety in the laser/lighting and a little less trance style of music. i do agree there was a different crowd, but that just means we have to make the effort to meet them and make them feel welcome and happy. i think frisky is at a pivotal point in their marketing structure - i feel they must start to make some changes if they want the parties to continue being the successes they have been.
Shaerin Magoodies - Wed Oct 4 15:40:29 2000

what girl from indigo?
Wed Oct 4 15:42:06 2000

homo homo homo... whats the goss on a one off as a sleaze recovery down @ home...?? this just has to be the BEST thing ive heard ever since the demise of homo... and surely a great alternative to, *ahem* frisky..!!! any takers..??
disco bitch....* - Wed Oct 4 15:46:12 2000

Nah, have already bought my Ice tickets
Shaftin' ma goodies - Wed Oct 4 15:56:02 2000

Forget Sleaze recoveries, whatever happened to sleazy recoveries?
lovin' it - Wed Oct 4 17:31:01 2000

Good to read the comments re Frisky, Sometimes we all have an off day, look at the opening ceremony the flame nearly didn't go up. Perhaps we are too spoilt. At least high standards are being demanded let's see what happens in "party universe" in November!
Super Woofer - Wed Oct 4 18:07:31 2000

Although it may sound extravagant, I had the most fun Sunday/Monday at Frisky and the Gas recovery that I've EVER had at a party. I am a fan of JoJo's music style. I thought his set at Frisky was his best yet. It felt like he'd hit his stride after experimenting over the past three parties. Mixing in Perfect Day two years ago may have been easy. But mixing it into the rest of his set on Sunday must have been incredibly difficult. But he probably goes to the trouble because of the amazing reaction it gets from the crowd. (I would.) The man is a master. If you look at how much the music at Frisky has evolved since Orb, he's come a long way. And I guess so have we...the listening public.
another DJ wannabe - Wed Oct 4 18:37:04 2000

Or perhaps everything has its day.
Wed Oct 4 18:42:25 2000

hmmm, he's a master all right
Chiclet - Wed Oct 4 18:50:01 2000

I think I'm probably as guilty as anyone of taking Frisky for granted. Sure there are little things that I could pick at through the night - but couldn't you anywhere? (And I tend to when I'm coming down off my drugs.) When it comes down to it, I had a fantastic time. Great crowd, great music lights and lasers and whatever it was on those screens and faces. (How trippy are they??) I think the Frisky team did well to pull off a great party at a time when Sydney was in Olympic bedlam. (I'm assuming that the price increase was due to increased costs during the Olympics?) I'm not sure where else in the world I'd go to have so much fun with my friends in such a safe happy environment. I feel lucky to live in Sydney with Frisky on my doorstep. Thank you to all involved.
one more time please - Wed Oct 4 19:06:17 2000

sorry guys but I'm with, 'another DJ wannabe' , I had the best frisky ever, the recovery was amazing.Just ask the stunning boys and I mean cute as, about the private dinning experience on the third floor of gas. All will agree, it was awesome. Something I have never experienced in my 10 years of partying in Sydney.You who missed it will never know so therefore it wont matter.....a big thankyou to nitegroove you took me higher than I've never been before. Then to top it off JoJo played an amazing one hour set downstairs.I loved it well done I'll definately be queing again. :)
Wed Oct 4 19:06:51 2000

Whoops, hit the submit button early....sorry.... The recovery at Gas after Frisky capped off a great night! Instead of things usually getting worse at the recovery venue, it just got better. The ending of the recovery with JoJo playing for an hour was the highlight of my night/day/whatever. Can you say "energy"? I would make the suggestion to have better signage to the restaurant upstairs at Gas. It was amazing up there. And I didn't find it til later. It was a great vibe - with lots of cute boys...and James Fraser playing great music. I hope we get to go there on a Frisky recovery again some time soon.
one more time please - Wed Oct 4 19:12:15 2000

Everything has it's day...hmmm....looks like the day's not over yet - gauging the crowd's reaction at Frisky on Sunday night. So who will be "The Grinch who stole Perfect Day"? Nobody for a while I hope. Fingers crossed. It reminds me of so much fun with friends who are still here and some who are gone.
Play it JoJo! - Wed Oct 4 19:23:53 2000

Here's a novel idea....wouldn't it be great if everyone who was running a party or associated with them just stuck to just doing the best job possible?? Building and marketing the best party they can rather than trying to bring down the others. What great parties we'd have! How many times have you heard things whispered or suggested blindly on a BBS that intend to do nothing but try to bring down a party so that another party can pick up the pieces? Sometimes it's subtle. Other times it's not. But it's not fun and it's not doing anyone any good in the long term. I guess this is way to radical a concept for the Sydney G & L community. Or perhaps not...anyone care to add?
Andy - Wed Oct 4 19:56:23 2000

Andy, I think that most of the debate about Frisky has been very fair and and if are saying it is other promoters having a go at JoJo, then it has been done in a fairly balanced and agreeable manner. There is room for more than one party on Frisky night and those who like Frisky will choose Frisky. What happened on Sunday comes down to JoJo setting high expectations as he has delivered onm other special weekends when he has charged a premium, but this time he delivered a standard Frisky on the biggest weekend Sydney has ever had. The word on the street is that noone was bitterly disappointed or ripped off, just that it missed the mark and has become predictable in every manner. It could possibly be equally suggested that the Nitegroove team have entered the board today in damage control mode. The only possible shredding of Frisky today to promote another party has possibly been Home. As for Perfect Day,it is fine to have a signature tune, like the one JoJo ends with, but part of the excitement of an event is unpredictability. It is now at the stage where you K*N*O*W he is going to play Children, Every Day Every Moment Every Time, El Nino, Perfect Day, his closing track (now 7 years old) amongst others. Maybe choose one oldie per set, but all those tracks alone make up a substantial part of Frisky. At $80, ticket holders deserve some variety. Frisky is a victim of its own high standards and possibly has no where else to go. And no, there were no Olympic surcharges on venue hire, bump ins or equipment hire. Lots of busy people though and perhaps Frisky was not the first priority of the production team this time?
Wed Oct 4 21:33:18 2000

Coming from a non frisky person - what is this 7 year old song that JoJo always ends on , can anybody tell me the title and artist because I really need to have a laugh !
Toby - Wed Oct 4 21:46:38 2000

tricky. because if you play all new music, you end up knowing none of it...and not enjoying the night.
Wed Oct 4 22:19:12 2000

I know that orange squeezers were getting $40.00 per hour at Olympic Park during the Olympics. I have no idea how much it costs to put on a party, but I'm sure the Olympics and the Gas recovery (which was a wonderful surprise) must have increased costs more than a normal Frisky Party. Did you go to Gas? And if you're truly doing this as constructive criticism (for any party), sign your name. I'm sure the people who put them on are open to fair criticism. You seem to have a lot to add - and have a very detailed laundry list of things that went on at this party - did you take notes or do you just have a great memory? The anonymous stuff seems unfair - per my original posting. I want every party I go to to be as good as it can be. And I hope you do too. BTW, does this endless chit chat about Frisky mean that it was the only thing worth talking about on the weekend? Surely there was more going on?
Andy - Wed Oct 4 22:36:01 2000

Who are you talking to ?? the word on the street is frisky was fab and so was the recovery at gas.. Get a clue guys the extra cost in ticket price was for the Olympic mark up, which there was,(do the math) & also venue hire of Gas. Gas on a public holiday is not....Free!! use your brain....whats left of it.
Wed Oct 4 22:42:56 2000

What do you mean JoJo doesn't mix? Isn't he up there hour after hour changing tapes? That requires alot of skill. I think he is still playing the same tape from Orb! I love the Party but not when he is pushing the play button.
Wed Oct 4 22:48:06 2000

All new music is not expected, Frisky needs some familiar tracks, but everyone from Frisky frequents other parties and clubs, so they know what is current. There is no need to rely on tracks that are 3 to 7 years old as the core of the set. He can be more up to date and still unpredictable. The problem may be that he does not get out enough and analyse other people's sets. Others may disagree and say he has his finger on the pulse like no one else, but I personally believe he is out of touch. The past success of Frisky I believe has been due to great marketing and a "mini Mardi Gras" format at a time when Sydney queer clubbing was severely lacking (the Shift and a few small parties were the only choices bewteen big events). Now we have ARQ (love it or hate it) and other regular events that challenge Frisky's popularity. And admitedly, these events have been inspired by aspects of Frisky and in some cases improved on them. Frisky now relies on a momentum generated at that time, but needs more fuel to keep it going. That fuel does not come in the form of additional lasers and production. Hardly anyone noticed the addition of an extra colour laser for 4th birthday and Sunday's Frisky. I don't know what the answer is - it appears he has tried everything he can think of over the past few years. International guests have made a difference in the recent past but if these became regular it would become blase as well. The diffrence between Frisky and regular Sydney clubbing has narrowed markedly in the past two years, we have all become spoilt and cynical, and Frisky's format has become far too mainstream to justify its ticket price - not that Frisky has become mainstream, but the mainsteean has become Frisky. What to do? What to do?
Wed Oct 4 22:59:26 2000

Gas was given to JoJo for free. The only costs were DJs, lasers, lighting operator (Total a shade under $2000). This cost was at least partially offset by those who did not attend Frisky and paid $10 on the door. There was no Olympic mark up. Andy, your posting is a great example of propaganda, e.g., Frisky sells out every party. Sunday night was definitely not a sell out event. I easily bought a ticket on Saturday at One Stop. And I know what the Metro feels like when it is at capacity!
Wed Oct 4 23:25:30 2000

There was not much else happening on the weekend, hence the high expectation of Frisky to deliver.
Wed Oct 4 23:28:05 2000

Loved the music. Like to hear some familiar stuff and some new stuff too. Keeps it fun. Had a fun night. Thanks JoJo. Keep it up! One of the great things about Frisky is that I know I'm going to have a great night out - while some of the other parties and clubs may have tried to go there, they just aren't making it at the moment. So Frisky is reliable - is that a bad thing?
Thu Oct 5 8:50:54 2000

So now three posts up we've got someone who has oversight on Frisky's budgets!? Anyone who was running a business over the Olyimpics knows that labour costs were definitely up. Aren't you clever. But you still can't sign your name. There certainly is a lot of "industry experience" coming to bear here. BTW: I said nothing about whether Frisky sold out or not. I think everyone there could work that out for themselves.
Andy - Thu Oct 5 9:25:54 2000

Interesting how everyone seems to know the budget breakdown of Frisky. Those closest to Jo and Olivia don't know, nor desire to know the budget - we all get value for money, so stop your bitching - you don't have to go! Ticket Price for the 15 hour party (in two parts) was $80 inclusive. That's $4.45 approx. per hour after you take out the booking fee, GST and donations to the Rights Lobby and 2002. Wow, what a bargain!
Thu Oct 5 9:36:08 2000

Five posts up (sign your name it would make it easier to respond): Thanks for a well thought out argument. You clearly are very close to the music scene and have a lot of experience in this area. I still don't agree though...but I am just a party boy. All I want every time I go out is to have as much fun as possible. I think JoJo's music is one of the big things that makes Frisky Frisky. I think the evolution we've experienced since Orb has been wonderful. Hoewever, it's good to be able to have reasonable discussion that isn't intent on anyone's destruction. I think if you were to offer direct feedback to JoJo through email (or this board - assuming he reads it) as to how you'd add to the party (rather than pull it to pieces like others seem intent on) it would a good thing for all concerned.
Andy - Thu Oct 5 9:41:43 2000

Whoops, six posts up.
Andy - Thu Oct 5 9:42:37 2000

The cost of equipment on the day of the closing ceremony was inflated FACT.
Realist - Thu Oct 5 10:13:36 2000

Any buzz about Bombed this Friday night at Blackmarket? There doesn't seem to be much advertising about it.
Nat - Thu Oct 5 10:32:34 2000

i asked a question ages ago but nobody seems to know the answer - so here it is again - Coming from a non frisky person - what is this 7 year old song that JoJo always ends on , can anybody tell me the title and artist because I really need to have a laugh !
toby - Thu Oct 5 10:41:54 2000

To Realist: The cost of equipment was not inflated for Frisky. Your information is wrong - you have no idea of confidential contractual arrangements between Nitegroove and their suppliers. Please refrain from libelious comments.
Thu Oct 5 10:42:09 2000

mail@frisky.com.au is the appropriate direct feedback avenue to Nitegroove. And that way, you need to provide a return address for an educated response.
Thu Oct 5 10:45:12 2000

I somehow how don't think you can wailk into One Stop on the day before Frisky and buy a ticket, just call me crazy.
Thu Oct 5 11:14:22 2000

To all the Frisky Critics.....I have only one question if you all know so much about what tracks you want to hear and what lights and special effects to use, they why aren't you running your own parties...... maybe its because you would still find out that it takes over 2000 man hours to produce and run such a event and requires a team of people such as nitegroove with some of the most experienced crew in each of their fields with many years of producing such a event. I think we that gay community should be more than grateful that Jojo and Olivia take take the time and effort to provide us with the safest and most consistent event in the gay party scene "our actions speak louder that our words" with overa 1000 people still cheering luke on at the end of his set just proves that Frisky Rocks
Thu Oct 5 11:31:34 2000

So inflated Olympic labour, equipment PLUS a second venue (Gas) with extra production costs had nothing to do with the Frisky ticket price being higher than normal?? (How can you make a statement like this? Do you work for Frisky or all the companies that supply equipment and labour to Frisky?) Get real. Sorry you'll have to excuse my laughing so hard I can hardly breathe. Be careful who you're calling libellous. And...sign your name so we know who you are. Rather than just another phantom from another party stirring the pot. Open discussion rather than hidden finger pointing and innuendo seems like a fairer deal for all concerned. Anything fun going on this weekend? Someone mentioned Bombed @ Blackmarket. Anyone? Anyone?
Andy - Thu Oct 5 11:33:08 2000

Frisky Rocks - the point is that obviously the usual man hours did not show on Sunday night. OK, have done my research. Have called Concert Lighting Systems, Oracle and AvSound, who all state that although they were very busy on the weekend, there was no surcharge except for very small events that they did not want to do. Frisky was not included in this. Frisky received its usual rates, discounted due to guaranteed regular work. Feel free to call them yourselves. And no one has stated that JoJo's set wasn't enjoyed, it just could have been much better. There were not over 1000 people at the end of Luke's set. Of the less than 700 people at 7.30am, more than half ran to the cloak room, leaving maybe 300 on the dancefloor at 8am.
Thu Oct 5 12:21:12 2000

One should point out that the Sublime recoveries did not add to Frisky tickets in those days.
Thu Oct 5 12:36:11 2000

Interesting that these companies are all willing to disclose their confidential dealings with a third party to you. You must be quite special. Or having yourself on.
Thu Oct 5 14:11:33 2000

you havent done your research.....we also now know who you are. try getting a ticket to the next one....ha...bye bye, thanks for playing
Thu Oct 5 14:23:00 2000

Am i writing in invisible ink ? I want to ask this question and I want it answered - Coming from a non frisky person - What is this 7 year old song that JoJo always ends his Frisky sets on and can somebodt tell me the artist and title ?
Toby - Thu Oct 5 14:24:24 2000

It is a fabulous song...and I didn't think it was that old. but it's wonderful. don't know the name. Sorry.
Thu Oct 5 14:32:18 2000

Perfect Day by Indigo!!!!!!
Thu Oct 5 14:39:31 2000

Now there's some nasty business going on here. The person who talked in detail about what music was played at Frisky and how it's so average and losing it's edge isn't being particularly fair...but is telling just enough of the truth to sound like a perfectly reasonable person. Well the game's up! He's told you that the music at Frisky is predictable. That there are some songs that JoJo always plays. He's gone to a lot of trouble here...list tracks etc. But what he's missed (quite deliberately - to make it sound as if the specialness is no longer there at Frisky) is that as well as some "comfort" tracks you hear JoJo play music at Frisky that you never hear anywhere else. And a lot of it. So, he is able to introduce lots of new material and keep it fresh without losing the crowd. An amazing feat! That's one of the things that makes the music at Frisky special. And that's probably what makes the anonymous poster's skin crawl. JoJo is able to repeatedly to do something that he (who sounds like quite an educated man - educated enough to do a good hatchet job) could never do. Keep it fresh, but keep it fun. And whoever you are - I see a lot of people are leaving their names off their posts...shame on you for trying to bring down a sensational party...and ruin people's fun into the bargain.
Viva La Frisky - Thu Oct 5 14:44:21 2000

Confidential? A lot of people work on Frisky, some have done in the past and have been associated with the companies involved. Its no secret about the dealings Frisky has - why should it be? If they started revelaing exact amounts paid under contracts, it would be a problem. Anyway, no one here has bagged Frisky. I think the reaction has ioccurred only becuase $80 a ticket now puts it up into very big party status, the market has accaepted that it is probably the new standard price, and is becoming more demanding. Has this not been a very fair discussion?
Thu Oct 5 14:44:32 2000

It's not perfect day. something else.
Thu Oct 5 14:51:53 2000

No one is going to ruin other people's fun at Frisky with a couple of posts on this board. I had fun, partially because my friends were there, and I want them all to continue going with me in the future. I just want Frisky to be all it can be every time, and hope that this discussion will help. It has the potentially to blow a crowd away - it has in the past. Being nasty and defensive, and even threatening ("try and get a ticket to the next one") is counter productive.
"Quite an edcated man" or woman? :) - Thu Oct 5 14:53:23 2000

I wouldn't necessarily call it a fair discussion. Inaccurate numbers have been used to make people feel like they were getting ripped off or at best part of something that's no longer special. And at the same time someone else is using half truths to suggest that Frisky losing it's edge. All at a time when those people who run parties know that November is going to be a hard month for any person/organisation who runs a party. I'd say there are people trying take the edge off a fantastic weekend and slow down Frisky for the sake of their own party/ies/venues in the coming month. Is that a fair discussion?
Thu Oct 5 15:01:19 2000

Why do I know that you're not a woman? There aren't too many people you could be.
Thu Oct 5 15:03:46 2000

Of course it's alway fun til someone puts an eye out isn't it? Or a party falls...then someone has to graciously pick up the pieces. Here's hoping that none of them fall and that they all get stronger. Perhaps a little more accuracy would help. And if you were serious about helping Frisky, you'd send JoJo and email as well as sending it off into the ether on a bbs.
Thu Oct 5 15:07:49 2000

Look, anyone who is a Frisky fan is going to go to Frisky if there is a Sleaze recovery. It will sell out, November is not going to be a hard month, the gay public were denied quality choices (with the excpetion of Frisky) over the Olympic period and will be spending big on the Sleaze weekend. Not to mention the interstate visitors and the huge number of overseas people staying for the duration. Frisky is an establishment, and if a promoter tries to attack it simply to enhance their own party, the public will respond accordingly. I don't see that intention here. Of the parties announced over the Sleaze weekend so far, none are likely to take away dedictated Frisky patrons, except possibly Hey Homo, or is that what you are suggesting?
Thu Oct 5 15:11:12 2000

Qualification to the above posting - it is meant to say that Frisky was a quality choice on the weekend.
Ducking for Cover - Thu Oct 5 15:14:16 2000

Ticket Price for the 15 hour party (in two parts) was $80 inclusive. That's $4.45 approx. per hour after you take out the booking fee, GST and donations to the Rights Lobby and 2002. Wow, what a bargain!
Thu Oct 5 15:20:04 2000

Back again. Afer a few minutes of careful thought on the toilet as to the way this discussion is going, I wish to point out a few things. I believe JoJo gets lots and lots of EMails and doesn't read them all. Posting on this in its current, mostly non-bitchy mode, invites dicussion and let's me know if I am being fair before Emailing JoJo. I do not know JoJo and do not feel comfortably Emailing him really. JoJo earns his money and $80 is a fair price to pay (in my opinion), but there are market additional market pressures from the Frisky clientele at this level and the gay punter is very demanding (too demanding?). It is much easier for him to keep his clientele over the next couple of parties than to lose them and try to win them back later. Perhaps he needs to concentrate on the main party than spread himself too thinly with a recovery as well. Some of you are overreacting to good intentions.
Still ducking - Thu Oct 5 15:33:46 2000

Frisky ticket prices: some facilities DID have a higher mark up, Labour had a small percentage of a hike, availability of transport - nightmare, cabs, crew needs. It was the Olympic closing weekend you can't tell me there were no cost increases. There were FACT. (let alone GST )Regardless if it was $100 it is purely a chance to dance, perve, self endulge meet/make new friends. It is well known that Jojo is not the best DJ (technically and perhaps cutting edge) in the world but his humbleness and shear determination to provide a good time for 'us' can only be praised. Besides every event, club or party has its share of successes and failures be realistic. Maybe the harsh critics could lighten up on the attacks please. The next month will have a broader choice, diversify and enjoy.
Realist with a heart an open mind. and no I'm not from Planet Claire! - Thu Oct 5 16:38:54 2000

No one said Frisky Games was a failure!
Thu Oct 5 16:42:17 2000

Heck no! Where have you people been? I would have called it friskilicious! Boys...music...lasers. Yummm. And that recovery - wow! More please.
Thu Oct 5 17:09:18 2000

All you 1000's of queens who go to Frisky year after year and **StILL** nobody can tell what the name and title of this song that JoJo finishes on at every Frisky party is ! Are you all daft or maybe NoNE of you really know as much about music as you claim to !!!
Toby - Thu Oct 5 17:14:15 2000

Will some put the "das ende" to the last song at frisky debate!
Its the only orginal song in Jo Jo set - Thu Oct 5 17:27:05 2000

Queens, Girlfriends, your comments on this board has me finally understanding, why so many straight people don't like homosexuals! Your all so negative, back stabbing and insecure. Can't you look at something for what it is! Wake up!!! Get a new groove! If you didn't like what ever party it is your on about this time, find another house solution.
Sunday, not 1 athlete in sight. I wonder why - Thu Oct 5 17:33:52 2000

yeah, lets talk more about fat ugly people. some names pls. i can think of one
Thu Oct 5 18:16:49 2000

Omigod, there is only a handful of people who know the name of that track! And what a nasty comment to accompany it! To those who know the people who know, just know it wasn't the non-DJ who knows it who posted it! Arrrgghhh! Hope I am not being framed here!
Mara - Thu Oct 5 18:23:35 2000

still ducking: Good intentions huh? The road to hell is paved with them. And if they were good intentions you wouldn't have continued on! They're not. First you're previewing a message to JoJo on this board rather than emailing him directly. *sarcasm on* I know that's how I like to get my criticism. Openly to a whole group who can pile on without a chance for me to respond first. *sarcasm off* (You're smart enough to know what you're up to). Then you're not sure if you're sending the email at all?? Then another quick dig..."he needs to concentrate on the main party than spread himself too thinly with a recovery as well" You'll try every angle you possibly can won't you. Who said he'd spread himself thin? Nobody but you! Such nice feedback to get from someone with good intentions. If you truly are a friend, send the email identify yourself and cc: this board.
Thu Oct 5 18:28:06 2000

Potentially libelous message deleted.

In other words,nobody knows what that closing track is called and therefore none of you are qualified to comment on dance music ! :)
Thu Oct 5 18:33:06 2000

the whole point of this board is that u can say what u want, within reason, and u don't have to give your name over.
Thu Oct 5 18:33:37 2000

"the last song at frisky debate"??? It's not a debate. Someone just asked the question. And you had a snide answer...or signature that is. There has been debate about the rest of his set and I'd challenge anyone out there to keep a crowd so "up" with so much new music in every set.
Thu Oct 5 18:38:40 2000

Fine to comment anonymously. Great to have this board to do it. But to criticise others without making your own interests known is totally dodgy.
Thu Oct 5 18:42:28 2000

Anonymity has people say things they can't be held accountable for, but others have to suffer the consequences of. Is that fair? I guess standing back from it all you have to question the quality of any dialogue where people's faces are hidden.
Thu Oct 5 18:53:45 2000

Heaven help us! Are you trying to drive this man to distraction? I only hope that JoJo keeps in mind what an amazing party he has just put on! This board would be enough to make a mere mortal question their ability. What a vile bunch you can be.
Thu Oct 5 18:56:17 2000

Potentially libelous messages deleted.
The debate has now degenerated into name calling and it is time for it to end!

so what is this clsing track of JoJo's that is 7 years old ? Its now starting to drive me crazy !
Toby - Thu Oct 5 19:06:32 2000

What do you think this board would look like if everyone had to put their names to their comments? Next question:What value does this dialogue have if it's anonymous? It would be useful if we had to be closeted but I'd suggest unnecessary in this forum. Unless we have something to hide and something to gain by hiding it. I guess it's the bitching that we see with anonymity. So this board does little more than promote bitching? Stop me here if I'm wrong.
Thu Oct 5 20:00:09 2000

Toby ! for f*cks sake, scroll up and read the title of the "song". it's written a few times.
Chiclet - Thu Oct 5 20:54:35 2000

Someone has already mentioned the name of JoJo's closing track somewhere in the above posts. And even if you did know what it was you wouldn't be able to get it.....believe me, I've tried. It's a bloody good tune but I think it would be unfair to JoJo to tell the world the name of his closing tune. Guess you'll just have to go to the next Frisky to hear it. Kick Ass!
Frisky Jnr. - Thu Oct 5 21:01:02 2000

This board does promote bitching. Unfortunately every party cops it on this board, and its one of the things you have to deal with if you are going to run a queer dance party in Sydney. I hope Panther does not delete this - previous messages revealed a protagonist in this debate - not a promoter as one of you suspected, but a DJ who has attacked a few DJs here in the last week or so. The revelation of the sacred JoJo signature tune is the clue to those of you in the know.
Thu Oct 5 21:03:53 2000
This is the opinion of the poster. The board does not promote bitching. It promotes announcements and constructive criticisms.

Is it true that Hey Homo is making a one-off return on the Sunday night after Sleaze?? Hope it's true to the original Hey Homo style, unlike Res-erection back at Easter (yuk!). Anyone know who the DJ's will be?? What a dilemma! Sleaze + Frisky, or Sleaze + HH. Will have a hard decision to make once the DJ's for HH are announced. Man, what a weekend that's going to be!
jeffgg - Thu Oct 5 21:26:06 2000

You Frisky queens are getting ferocious towards each other! You're tearing each other apart. They think I'm bad? Just listen to you lot.
TW - Thu Oct 5 22:18:00 2000

dear toby, after you have finished reading the above postings to get the name of the last track in jo's set, i will then tell you that you can get it on one of the free fm cd's (the earlier editions). i have it at home and played it for some friends on monday afternoon after we all got home. even though we were all completely shagged, every one of them got up and started dancing madly! eventually it was played three times, i think i will burn the cd now! my body cannot take it :)))
Shaerin - Thu Oct 5 22:26:48 2000

Heyhomo DJs mainroom Jules Beaumont and Alex Taylor
Thu Oct 5 22:32:14 2000

Hmmm Shaerin, think you'll find that's Perfect Day on the CD, not Das Ende.
Thu Oct 5 22:49:39 2000

heyhomo is Jules Beaumont and Alex Taylor
Thu Oct 5 22:55:05 2000

tisk tisk Shaerin, I thought you had better taste in music. and .... when do the Pwide NYE DJs get announced ?
Chiclet - Thu Oct 5 23:39:39 2000

We appreciate the info Gavin
Thu Oct 5 23:44:29 2000

I sit here holding back the tears reading some of what has been written today. Ok I am in tears now. JoJo and some others I am sure are feeling the same. I had fun on Sunday night. I chose to be there on Sydney's most proud night when I could have been anywhere else. JoJo, I know how you cherish your signature tune (not Perfect Day, the other one), and to see it blatantly revealed on Pinkboard just out of spite is heartbreaking. Also most touching is at least one individual on your team (actually our team as well), most proud to have been a key player in the opening ceremony, who chose to work Frisky instead of the closing ceremony. Wow! Play whatever you want, I doubt if people are going to abandon you over a couple of tracks! We are on the same night in November and we all realise that having quality choices for Sydney is what Frisky and *** are all about (we know that, but the public also needs to know). Once again, thanks for your help and inspiration, good luck on the 12th and go with your heart. I ain't gonna sign my name, you know who I am and others know me as...
Mara Devlin - Fri Oct 6 0:30:36 2000

Thank god I will be in Brisbane this weekend for their Sleaze Ball and away from all you naff queens
overu - Fri Oct 6 0:37:01 2000

Thank you! Well said!
Fri Oct 6 0:42:41 2000

Mara - How can the name of a signature tune be a secret?
Panther - Fri Oct 6 8:38:31 2000

The last song at Frisky was not Perfect Day .. it was Love Will Come by Tomski feat Jan Johnston on vocals .. just beeyootiful!!
Fri Oct 6 9:49:31 2000

Yes...... I don't know what all this fuss is about the last signature tune. If it's a really good song then I would assume that it was released.... or whoever made it would want it to be heard and known rather than a tiny group of people knowing it's name and not telling anyone.
Fri Oct 6 10:15:40 2000

Sounds like one person has tried over the years to make one song instantly recognisable as "his song". i.e. a signature. Obviously it's worked because people have noticed. I think there's the implication that if the the name of the song is widely known that naff people with no sense of their own creativity would like to take it away from him and make it less special - rather than trying to make a mark for themselves creatively with their own work. And that's what the weird feelings are about. If anyone did play that song, I hope they'd be ostracised appropriately. Has anyone else in Sydney done this successfully? Would they be unhappy at similar treatment? I know I would be if I'd put that much effort into it. But I guess unless you compose it yourself, someone always has a copy. JoJo's probably a little more easy going about this issue than me. :-) Anyway, just some explanation for what I think I see.
Fri Oct 6 10:38:03 2000

Fri Oct 6 11:48:54 2000

Panther - will try to explain as best I know how. "Das Ende" is probably 7 years old as claimed, and translated from German means "The End". It has aged remarkably well, and has marked the end of JoJo's sets from as far back as The Orb. Its age predates most Sydney DJ's work experience, hence noone knows what it is and no one has it. Due to its rarity, what it means in the context of his set and to many Frisky people, most people would agree that its JoJo's privilege. I know of only one other DJ in Sydney who has it, but have not seen his copy of the vinyl! It has been suggested that some CD copies may have been burned after the June 1998 Frisky was broadcast live on Free FM. But I am convinced that only a very small number of people knew the name of the track, and those who did know knew the caveat, and therefore what it means to blurt it out on Pinkboard. In the end probably not really a big deal but it was the intention that matters.
Mara Devlin - Fri Oct 6 11:52:35 2000

If this board truly did not promote bitching there would be some structure in place to have some kind of verification of the person posting. Like the personals section does. I think it's fine for anyone to read, but I think there should be verification of some kind to write. As it stands right now, the board allows attackers to stand in the shadows like the cowards that the are and hurl cr*p at all and sundry without making their intentions or affiliation known. Not what most would call fair.
Fri Oct 6 12:11:59 2000

I guess we could always just ignore anonymous posts.
Fri Oct 6 12:18:47 2000

For a group of DJ's and promoters in such a small community you certainly are all trying bring about each other's undoing as quickly as possible. What a sad waste of energy. Understanding how Pinkboard works, one would have to seriously question the value of any information found here. Which begs the question: What is the point of coming here? One would have hoped it was to find out about parties in Sydney. But instead it's to watch DJ/Promoter mudwrestling/slinging. What a sickening lot you are.
Fri Oct 6 12:35:27 2000

You go Mara!
Fri Oct 6 12:37:24 2000

tis a fine day in the partyworld cum on summer! deep I know.
Realist with a heart an open mind. - Fri Oct 6 12:38:04 2000

Can anyone point me to where someone without access to Sydney papers might find out what parties are coming up over the next couple of months?
Fri Oct 6 12:44:18 2000

Mara, I agree wholeheartedly. You said it better than I managed to. It's the intention at the middle of all this. Well written.
Fri Oct 6 12:46:47 2000

Just been catching up on the "debate" of the last 24hr and would like to suggest that the poster Thur Oct 5 12:21:12 2000 has no idea about what they are on about. AvSound (to my knowlege) no longer do the audio. It is done by Norwest, try speaking to the account manager there and see what response you get. Norwest also had another little gig on that night called the "Olympic Closing Ceremony" now I am not privy to Norwests stock levels but I do know that they had gear for the Olympics crosshired from another company called Lots of Watts so getting either equipment or staff at Norwest that night would have been particularily difficult. As far as I know Oracle still do the lasers and I could be wrong on this (and probably am) but I thought Gearhouse did the lights. I won't comment on the party as I wasn't there I was doing the Closing at the Stadium. I did pay my $10 at GAS and had a good time till I went home because I was almost too tired to stand.
BND - Fri Oct 6 13:40:30 2000

OK ! So we have established the missing track to be titled "Das Ende" - Now does anybody want to take a stab at what the artist is ? Even though its so old I wouldn't mind the challenge of seeing if I could find a copy - I just gotta know who does the thing now. Any ideas ?
Toby - Fri Oct 6 13:50:47 2000

Hi BND - please check the Frisky ad on the back of a Capital Q from weeks ago about the party before commenting further on who is doing production. Gearhouse is out, AvSound is in, Oracle are in and Norwest are in.
Fri Oct 6 13:59:32 2000

Get over it 'Toby', move on & stop living in the past. Hang on, why don't AlL of you move on & stop living in the past!!
get over it - Fri Oct 6 14:30:29 2000

you are all soooo last century. Constructiveness is in, vileness is out.
Fri Oct 6 14:38:27 2000

not what I hear, you cow!
Fri Oct 6 14:48:40 2000

Ah Toby, you sound so enthusiastic and innocent for a saboteur.
Fri Oct 6 15:09:24 2000

Oh no, the secret song is revealed. The apostles are devestated. Has the ark of the Frisky covenant been broken? Will JoJo rise on the third day? Or is this Das Ende for the legend. Stay tuned for more incredibly exciting instalments, anguish, tears and revelelations. This is bigger than Cecil B DeMille.
EC - Fri Oct 6 15:22:05 2000

awww,sheeesh I just enjoy the challenge of trying to find hard to find music ,thats all ,nothing sinister. So does anyone know the artist or are you all here just to throw mud ?
Toby - Fri Oct 6 15:36:21 2000

yes yes, das ende is the final song in jo's set, but his signature song is "perfect day" by indigo. he has played this at every frisky for what seems like a hundred years and it still gets a good reaction, because the regular punters know it is his song.
Shaerin - Fri Oct 6 15:51:55 2000

Perfect Day has only been played ay Frisky since mid 1998 (Metro days). At the time it was played everywhere - Paul Goodyear, Greg Boladian, Alex Taylor and even Luke Leal m*i*g*ht* admit to playng it (although they shudder at the thought of it now), but they all had a go at it. Possibly Stephen Blomfield still plays the Almighty mix. Das Ende played by JoJo since Orb days. Since the secret is out, Toby, you may as well know it is by The Movie Club. The shudder from those DJs is because the style is dated.
Reaping - Fri Oct 6 16:57:22 2000

Finally ! Some common sense ! Hallelujah !!
Toby - Fri Oct 6 17:17:58 2000

The shudder is because of your vile intent. Nothing else.
Fri Oct 6 17:22:41 2000

My last post does look a bit negative, and things are a little inflamed and precious at the moment, so let me rephrase. Perfect Day is fine at Frisky, it was a good track in its day played by most DJs who don't play it now because, even though it is a good track, does not fit into the current sounds of their sets, which are either trancey or housy, trancey elements carrying a far less substantial component of their sets in 1998. The sounds used in the mixes of Perfect Day are a snapshot of a style typical in 1997 to 1998 that are not used in commercial tracks any more.
Reaping again - is that better Mr Conspiracy Theory? :) - Fri Oct 6 17:52:23 2000

Vile intent? Man, you need to chill out dude.
Fri Oct 6 18:26:38 2000

I think "fine at Frisky" is an understatement - have you seen the room when he plays it - W*O*W. But OK let's leave it there - thanks for clarifying in your 2nd post - much less inflammatory. It's a track typical of 1997-1998 style. I think everyone would have to agree. The fact that JoJo works it into his set is a credit to his technical skill (how hard must it be to mix that with his more progressive stuff?), but also as a DJ he knows that his audience loves it. And to play to an audience's desires is something I wish more DJ's would do. It would make for some fabulous nights out.
Fri Oct 6 18:36:14 2000

How funny, the power of the Frisky movement has endured yet another amusing and quite ill informed barrage of total lies and destructive attempts to unravel it. Alas you know all you want is a root so why bother deconstuct the beauty of a sensational party. I know as soon as I find my mobile and cockring I will call Jojo and tell him to ignore all the lies and keep on doin' what he does so magnificently. Chuck a goood party. So to all the detractors, never mind about the crappy perfect day argument let us look forward to the Paralympics closing ceremony where they will play the remix of Climb every mountain. dance till the cows return and
Dis jointed. - Fri Oct 6 18:50:09 2000

thwump....thwump.... (sound of dead horse being flogged)
Fri Oct 6 18:54:25 2000

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Fri Oct 6 20:03:03 2000

I am firmly of the opinion that todays unseasonal 36 degrees that hit Sydney has set a few peoples brains into "fried" mode !
Fried Brains - Fri Oct 6 20:04:21 2000

thwump....thwump.... the sound of Perfect Day being mixed? Just kidding! Lighten up!! :)
Fri Oct 6 20:41:23 2000

All this bitterness about "Perfect Day".just to make all you punters squirm I should lobby every DJ I Know to bring it back and start playing it all over again in every club possible.And when that year 2000 anniversary remix comes out (the one due in December to celebrate the 1st anniversary of the lead singer from Indigo passing away) then the Dj's can play it over and over again.Enjoy !
Fri Oct 6 20:50:19 2000

Here's hoping for a Tidy Trax remix!
Fri Oct 6 20:59:27 2000

Heres NoT hoping for a tidy trax remix of perfect day.Talk about taking a pretty piece of music and lyric and turning it into a non-melodiuos piece of bangin' crap ! That would be a mortal sin !
Fri Oct 6 22:03:01 2000

barf ! the Das Ende track is bloody awful ! years ago... I was given a copy of that track (vinyl) and couldnt get to Ashwoods quick enough to dispose of it. I think I got a dollar for it. probably spent that dollar at Timezone on George st. I quite like Timezone.
Panties, Mr - Sat Oct 7 4:04:23 2000

Well that's where the cute boys hang out. Sounds about right. ;-)
Sat Oct 7 12:32:21 2000

Oh Mr Panties you're soooooo mean. lol
EC - Sat Oct 7 15:07:49 2000

I find his honesty & humour to be refreshing in here. he's one of the few that has a different view on things. Mr Panties, if I ever meet you, the first drink is on me : )
Tech Boy - Sat Oct 7 15:43:18 2000

anyone know why Baby Bear isnt playing at the next Ice party ?
Sat Oct 7 18:29:58 2000

anyone know why Baby Bear isnt playing at the next Ice party ? Sat Oct 7 18:29:58 2000 ------ because he is doing the main event (Sleaze Ball) and might want to enjoy himself for the rest of the weekend.DJ's aren't all workaholics.Some DO (occassionally) like to be out there with all the peasants sometimes :)
A Peasant from wayyyyy back - Sat Oct 7 20:39:39 2000

Actually, I sae Kevin from Ice at Bombed last night and asked him the same question re Baby Bear. He said they pleaded with BB to play, and he will be! Apparently the party is being extended to accomodate. BTW Bombed was well attended and fun!
Still Bombed! - Sat Oct 7 22:03:32 2000

Hey Guys, I hear tickets are selling slowly for Diva this year because of the Olympics. This is a fun night and the after party goes off. I think we need to get behind it and support the event, it would be a shame if it disappeared from the calander .
Diva fan - Sun Oct 8 11:02:21 2000

Diva fan - for those of us who are outside the Drag circle, what are the details? Is there a website?
Outside - Sun Oct 8 11:06:45 2000

Tickets are selling slowly for Diva cause the event is an outdated Bore !!!!!
Sun Oct 8 11:32:52 2000

Best DJ = Dot Dingle
Cheap Perspex Trophy - Sun Oct 8 12:30:33 2000

Yeah Well Alex doesnt need another cheap perspex bookend.You can only store so many books.
Sun Oct 8 13:18:01 2000

DIVA's is a fun event where we can get a chance to support and congratulate the girls who have entertained us throughout the year. Dot has never won best DJ at DIVA and it is a community voted award. This year's DIVA awards is on at the Hordern 16th October MC'd by the lovely Portia Turbo and the fabby Penny Tration. So if you want a laugh and giggle and to see some fabby production shows it is an event worth attending. No I am not on the organising committee, and let's not start slagging off an event just because of one of the guys on the organising committee. Hope to see lots of you there!!!!!!!!!!
The Doctor - Sun Oct 8 16:24:12 2000

The previous post was brought to you by DIVA - In the hope that they can sell some more tickets so as not to lose money on this tired old event
Sun Oct 8 16:53:46 2000
This is the opinion of the poster.

Some of us are tired of being somewhat represented by drag queens. They can do what they like and I hope they all have fun but to many of us, drag queens are irrelevant. We do not enjoy seeing them and do not like to explain to straight friends that not all gay men have gender issues or want to cross-dress. So forgive those of us not rushing off to buy tickets. That said..... I hope those that enjoy this sort of thing have fun :)
Sun Oct 8 19:37:04 2000

Whew, what a bunch of passive agressive garbage! Either wish them well...or don't. Not this half assed "it's OK, but it's really not" bullsh*t. Blah blah gender issues whatever! They're a bunch of blokes in dresses. If your Footy Show, watching straight friends can't get drag together tell them to get a life. Or perhaps you're feeling a little uncomfortable with the concept, not them. For heavens' sakes, someone else putting on a frock does not threaten your masculinity. The same way that two men living together doesn't threaten the marriage of the straight couple across the road. These are your brothers/sisters. Stand up for them...or shutup...but don't dis the party. Our community parties are more fragile than you might expect. Be careful with them.
Mon Oct 9 0:18:48 2000

Personal ad deleted.

Ok - here we are on the monday one week post olympics / frisky etc. Will all be quiet on the pinkboard front this week or will be subjected to another week long discussion about the merits or demerits of "Perfect Day" by Indigo !
Its pissing down rain today - It aint no Perfect Day today !! - Mon Oct 9 9:44:35 2000

I read in some publication recently about the pending changes to government legislation that require most public venues to restrict and ban smoking from its venues.I am under the impression that the implementation of this must be completed by about this time next year. I am extremely interested to know how our Gay and Lesbian pubs and nightclubs will go about putting this practise into order. Indeed,I welcome this change and it will be so much more pleasant knowing that I can go out for a drink and not expect to be drenched in smoke when i get there.Even more interesting is the thought that I wont reek of that smell when i get home. I challenge any or all of our pubs and clubs to implement this new law Now and well in advance of the last available day to do it.It would be such a wonderful marketing tool to the first venue that can offer a smoke free environment.I would be its firsts customer. Remember - non smokers are in the large majority of people.The first smoke free environment pub/club is a goldmine waiting to happen !
Jason - Mon Oct 9 10:10:26 2000

Anyone know where I can find info on upcoming parties online? I don't have access to Sydney papers.
Mon Oct 9 11:10:24 2000

Can you imagine...Arq with no cigarette smoke? Kewl! Of course they would still have the smoke machine so that the lasers and lights work.
one of "those Arq Boys" - Mon Oct 9 11:14:07 2000

OK, two things, 1) Is there another Ice party on? and I'm guessing from the above posts re: Baby Bear, that it's a Sleaze recovery, on the Sunday night? or the following week some time since the Monday after Sleaze isn't a public holiday. 2) Couldn't think of anything better than a smokefree club/pub to go out to in the gay scene. The first one would be a real money spinner, and be at the forefront of the scene!
Mon Oct 9 12:29:28 2000

the ice "recovery" starts at 9am (one hour after sleaze finishes) its a daytime recovery - i'm not sure what hours its going until. I hope that helps !
Mon Oct 9 12:41:10 2000

I hope the Ice recovery is at Gas, that place rocks! & what a great place for the recovery with that upstairs space. C'mon Kevin & Craig make the venue interesting!
Mon Oct 9 13:42:08 2000

I agree about the Diva Drag nonsense, please men are men not parodies of women surely.
Bloke - Mon Oct 9 13:53:11 2000

Must there always be a victim here? If it's not Perfect Day it's drag queens or the Mardi Gras committee. Why can so many people not offer a point of view without slagging others off?
Mon Oct 9 14:50:21 2000

Whether or not you like Drag is neither here nor there. While Diva covers most aspects of the Entertainment industry, costumes, choreography, shows and you are welcome to consider that fluff, Diva also recognises hard work and achievement in the community that no one else does. Diva acknowledges special events, individuals who do outstanding work within the community, small groups who do the same. In the past few years, Diva has awarded Pflag, Ankali, Csn, 2010, Don Baxter, A.v.p, M.a.g, The Mardi Gras Medical Team, Bill Paterson, Gerald Lawrence, & Clover Moore to name a few. Maybe you do or don't know who these people/organisations are or what they do. But they are people who work selflessly for the good of others and get no reward or recognition. Some have these people have worked for 20 years behind the scenes and never had their efforts publically acknowledged, Diva has been the first org to recognise thier achievements. Now many of you may think this is not important - but Diva is the only vehicle in the community that recognises our own hard work. Who is out there to aknowledge us but ourselves. Sure the entire event is encased in fluff and frivolity and you might not like that - no one is asking you to, but don't slag it off for others who might find some relevance in what is done there. I have been working on Diva for 10 years for nothing, no one makes any money from it and any profit is donated to Acon. If you think this is tired and old, why don't you turn around and ask yourself exactly what do you do for others. Whats the point in slagging off something that only really has good intentions? Yes we do want to avoid losing money - obviously. Because we give everything to charity, we can't survive a big loss, all we want to do is ask the people who do think the event has value to come and support it. Unfortunately a lot of people think we are sold out, because usually the tickets are all gone a month before.
Ian - Mon Oct 9 15:28:44 2000

What's the Ice website again????
Mon Oct 9 15:58:24 2000

ok so we have a little info on the hey homo recovery in november. shop @ home wont say anything. go figure. wheres justine when we need her. (gawd, cant believe i just said that) need info. need info N O W !
liquid penetration - Mon Oct 9 16:08:50 2000

(Reading frm the ICE newsletter), the recovery will be on the Sunday night (night after Sleaze), 12 November, from 11pm till 8am. DJs include Luke Leal, Baby Bear, Mark Murphy, Tim Spinks, Sveta, Buck Naked, Mandy Rollins and a surprise well known UK Hard House International. It will be the first gay party to utilise the relatievly new Bay 33 nightclub underneath the complex housing Bayswater Fitness. Website is www.backdoor.to/ice. As for non-smoking environments, it works well in California. As a smoker (especially when "head affected!"), it was no effort to go to the designated smoking areas (normally just outside the club, sometimes under shelter, or a well ventilated back room). It is very social and a great way to relax for a few minutes. Sydney would do very well to adopt such a practice. However, a bigger smoke machine would be required at ARQ! :)
Mon Oct 9 18:06:03 2000

Re: Hey Homo, those at Home have said it will be happening, but they have been a little tied up during the Olympics with Home @ Large etc, as well as the upcoming Homelands, and will be getting around to an official announcement soon.
Homogenised - Mon Oct 9 18:11:06 2000

More on the Non smoking issue - I have decided to make this an issue after seeing some encouraging signs on this board today and also receiving the support of my friends.So the following transcript has been sent to The Following Venues ---------- Albury, Beauchamp, Beresford, Flinders, Imperial, Newtown, Oxford, Exchange, Stonewall Hotels, Annies Bar, Arq Nightclub, Barracks Bar, Caesar's Bar, Icebox, Midnight Shift, Taxi Club, Palms On Oxford........... Carbon copies to Pinkboard, Sydney Star Observer, and Capital Q---------------------------------------------------- Dear Venue Managers and Licencees, I read in some publication recently about the pending changes to government legislation that require most public venues to restrict and ban smoking from its venues.I am under the impression that the implementation of this must be completed by about this time next year. I am extremely interested to know how our Gay and Lesbian pubs and nightclubs will go about putting this practise into order. Indeed,I welcome this change and it will be so much more pleasant knowing that I can go out for a drink and not expect to be drenched in smoke when i get there.Even more interesting is the thought that I wont reek of that smell when i get home. I challenge any or all of our pubs and clubs to implement this new law Now and Well in advance of the last available day to do it.Even at the very least a designated smoke free night of the week would be a start !!! It would be such a wonderful marketing tool to the first venue that can offer a smoke free environment.I would be its firsts customer. Remember - non smokers are in the large majority of people.The first smoke free environment pub/club is a goldmine waiting to happen ! I welcome your reply or feedback to my email address at - jasonboyd2000@yahoo.com.au
Jason Boyd - Mon Oct 9 18:56:41 2000

will I be allowed to smoke Crack ? I can do that in LA
Panties - Mon Oct 9 19:19:32 2000

Panties - do you have anything to say more than "one liners" ? Quite frankly its getting very boring indeed.
Mon Oct 9 19:25:29 2000

Please. Lighten up.
TW - Mon Oct 9 19:55:12 2000

Amazing - you get a sensible topic for discussion on this board (non smoking) and the board goes all quiet . How bloody typical , good on you jason for taking this stand , its a great idea.
A>D - Mon Oct 9 21:57:48 2000

I for one will be very happy the day that a non-smoking bar is opened. I know plenty of people would much prefer to spend a night out without stinky smoke.
Mon Oct 9 22:02:11 2000

Yay for Jason...... I agree!
Mon Oct 9 22:17:50 2000

Ian - Mon Oct 9 15:28:44 2000 - "recognises our own hard work" ????? - you **Mime** to **Other** people's songs.
Mon Oct 9 22:19:47 2000

Ian....... I see your point about charity work being rewarded and I think that's great. It just gets to me (and lots of others I know) seeing 100 annoying drag faces on the cover of Capital Q and things like that.... feeling too embarassed to pick it up or leave it lying around the house. No I dont feel my masculinity is being threatened by drag queens.... I just personally dont enjoy watching a drag show or having people think that that is what my life is all about. I am tolerant but unfortunately I just cant be more understanding because I dont get it! I only enjoy a drag show after a bottle of vodka.....
Mon Oct 9 22:30:49 2000

nope. I have a really short attention span.
Mr Panties - Mon Oct 9 23:19:01 2000

Mon Oct 9 22:19:47 2000 - If you don't think a particular entertainment is entertaining then there is no need for you to attend it. Then you say "I don't think drag is entertaining." Some Drag Queens put in a lot of work for the community. For this they should be praised.
Panther - Tue Oct 10 9:09:33 2000

Plenty of people put in plenty of hard volunteer work into this community. Some of us just like to get on with the job instead of self-promoting ourselves every chance we get and pointing out how much "hard work" we've done.

PS I don't attend drag shows because I don't like them. If they don't bore me to tears, they offend me by all the racist, sexist, bitchy comments they make.

PPS. Saying that "drags queens mime to other people's songs" is not an opinion. It is a fact. That is what they do.
Tue Oct 10 10:10:31 2000

1) Mr Panties - I like your one liners, keep them up. 2) Not everything in life is for everyone, if you don't like the Diva's then leave them for those that do, but no need for you to put them down just to make yourself feel better about who you are. 3) Non-smoking venues! Non-smoking venues! Non-smoking venues! Non-smoking venues! Non-smoking venues! Non-smoking venues! Non-smoking venues! Non-smoking venues! Non-smoking venues! Non-smoking venues! 4) Is Ice at night time or in the Daytime? 5) If Ice is at night are there any daytime recoveries as Monday is a working day? 6) Non-smoking venues! Non-smoking venues! Non-smoking venues! Non-smoking venues! Non-smoking venues! Non-smoking venues! Non-smoking venues! Non-smoking venues! Non-smoking venues! Non-smoking venues!
Tue Oct 10 10:30:52 2000

Is drag a form of art or just a chemical in-balance? Personally, I believe some drag has to be appreciated for it's pure creativity but to be pushed as the way 'we' have fun and spend our recreational time. Not true. I just go out as a (gay)bloke who likes to party.
bloke - Tue Oct 10 10:32:55 2000

Frisky was the only thing to bitch about last week, now's its Diva. God, you lot are a boring bunch of wankers. Time to ignore this purile space for a while again.
Tecky - Tue Oct 10 10:48:20 2000

Non-smoking venues! Non-smoking venues! Non-smoking venues! Non-smoking venues! Tue Oct 10 10:30:52 2000 - And your point is ??????????????
Tue Oct 10 12:20:48 2000

Hi Ian again... Thanks for some sane remarks to my comments above. I would like to clarify myself a little, when I was refering to "hard work" I was refering to most of the community groups and individuals that I had mentioned. 2010 for example - homeless gay & lesbian youth, when we awarded them the year before last the community service award , they were very happy because no one had recognised them in 10 years. Each one honoured has a similar story - we purposely recognise the quiet achievers who benefit from a little community exposure - so people realise who they are and what they do. This is what I meant by hard work. I don't think its hard work to mime to someone elses voice, but I don't want to devalue the performers who put a lot of work into choreographing and professionally staging a production, there are obvious different levels of skill and effort amoung the different performers but I don't even want to go there. I totally understand you not liking Drag, heaps of people don't, I don't like jazz - loathe it, but lots of people do - who cares - each to his own. I don't feel the need to put down a jazz lover - I just know its not for me. I also understand your dismay at a cover of a paper plastered with Drag queens, but there has been just as many photo's of insipid queens and other uninspiring things - I think you are thinking to hard about it, don't worry that other people will judge you by whats on the cover of the paper. I'm going to be judged by the way I present and conduct myself - not by a pic of a Drag Queen on a cover. I think if anything, we should have learned a little tolerance over the years. One thing (another) I feel I should add is that, like em or hate em, drag queens are the backbone of fundraising in this town. They come out in force at every fundraiser, charity event and red ribbon thingy, most of the real 'blokes' don't. And I think this is something we shouyld be grateful for. If god forbid, and I hope it never happens, one of us ends up in Hospital, I'm going to be happy if some drag Queen rocks up and gives me a smile and an easter egg. Its fine not to enjoy all that, but there are other things to remember or appreciate.
Ian - Tue Oct 10 12:54:54 2000

Party wall Ian, please put in case to the Daze of our Lives wall sorry Gays of our Lives (you should read some of the posts, its as if they live for the wall............).
BB - Tue Oct 10 15:46:05 2000

Well put Ian. (above comments) I think your rationale is very sound.
Bloke - Tue Oct 10 16:28:42 2000

Ian - Tue Oct 10 12:54:54 2000 - I don't think that any amount of charity work exempts people in your industry from making the usual racist, sexist, bitchy comments that are normally a part of most drag acts. Sure drag queens do raise alot of money for charity I'll give you that. But please tell your colleagues to cut out all the f*cked up comments that they make too too many times.

As for drag queens being the backbone of fundraising in our community please do not insult us further. Drag queens may be a fixture of the public face of fundraising, but so much hard work goes on behind the scenes which goes completely unnotice mainly done by "real blokes" (your words not mine). I think that almost everyone in our community at some point has done something to lend a hand at different points in our lives and there are plenty of people who do more than just lend a hand. We don't ask to be seen as saints the way you seem to be portraying drag queens. And most of the times we don't make publicly bitchy comments.
Tue Oct 10 17:24:56 2000

i wanna know how to post using paragraphs like him
Tue Oct 10 17:36:20 2000

hold down the space bar for 2 minutes, then type some more
Chiclet - Tue Oct 10 18:22:13 2000

To Tue Oct 10 17:24:56 2000 - I couldn't agree more with you about the racist commentry, I hate mysoginist humour too - I think its all pretty naff and unnecessary, tongue in cheek bitching doesn't bother me, sometimes its amusing, vindictiveness is never funny. I don't think that kind of humour is anywhere near as rampant as it was a few years ago. I also agree with you about Drag queens being the public face of fundraising, my comments weren't meant to devalue the work done by the rest. The Drags just seem to have the means (and perhaps 'balls' is the word) to make it 'in your face' enough to get noticed. Often the normal guys just get overlooked. I'm not arguing with you because I agree with most of your points, but I wish I lived in the community that you do - the one where almost everyone has lent a hand, because every time I look it seems to be the same core of people who bust there nuts to make a difference. Call me a bit jaded, but I think community participation seems to be at a bit of a low. I don't mean to portray Drags as saints at all, I'm not an idiot, but I think they are often written off unnecessarily - hey! but thats just what i think.
Ian - Tue Oct 10 18:41:01 2000

! Non-smoking venues! Tue Oct 10 10:30:52 2000 - And your point is ????????????? Tue Oct 10 12:20:48 2000 Are you really that stupid that you have to ask this question?? or is it just a really bad attempt at humour???
The opinion of the poster - Tue Oct 10 19:19:57 2000

So does anybody else have an opinion on this whole concept of Non smoking gay bars ? The sooner a club introduces it the better it will be.It just takes one and i am sure all the other sheep will follow suit.
A>D - Tue Oct 10 19:53:00 2000

Chiclet, that doesnt work ! and for the last time, stay off my damn PC !
El Panteez - Tue Oct 10 23:03:44 2000

A pub called the Elephants Foot once tried to be a Non smoking venue (it was str8)It was on Crown street.Havent heard of it? If you havent it is because they went broke in about 2months. Non smoking venues will go the same way.At least the "dance Party" scene may get the chance to make a come back if that does happen. Question : How many of you have a smoke when you have had some party pills? Do you really think there will be enough room in the "designated" smoking area? The only way for nonsmoking venues will work will be if tobbaco is banned all together by the government.Do you really think that is gonna happen?? Already some totally indoor restaraunts are feeling the pinch and wont survive this summer. Places with out door seating will do fine over summer but wait till winter next year then they too will feel the pinch. Has any one noticed the cafe on "191" old site? Lots of seating indoor and out. But oddly enough the indoor section ais strangely less occupied I wonder why?
God I need a fag !!!!!! :o) - Tue Oct 10 23:46:25 2000

Ian, you make really good points about both ongoing drag contributions to the community, and declining levels of volunteerism. Organisations like Diva, Pride, MG etc. are often criticised for their failure to accurately reflect & represent those in our community who generally fail to contribute anything at all. Drags & dykes & fags with guts get out and about and make their media,institutions and events speak for them. I commend you as part of that engaged community membership that makes a valuable and eloquent statement about our diverse identity. But,what's wrong with jazz?
Marx Brother - Wed Oct 11 0:23:12 2000

Well People are just gonna have to get used to it - once the government legislation comes in and its **ForCeD*** on venues not to allow smoking then the majority of people who are non smokers wont stand for it - it will be a repeat performance a-la people dobbing in shops charging over the GST (it will turn into a dob-a-thon) - all this i find to be positive - the sooner smoking is banned from enclosed public rooms the better this world will be.
NoN smoker - Wed Oct 11 0:37:04 2000

There seems to be some confusion about ICE recovery after Sleaze.To clear it up anybody wanting details should visit this site - www.backdoor.to/ice/newsletter
Clearing the confusion - Wed Oct 11 9:39:12 2000

Marx Brother - Theres nothing wrong with jazz (except all that dixie stuff) I just wanted to illustrate a point. I've been involved with events since I came to Sydney 15yrs ago, and have been producing Diva for 10 yrs - you know what? I'm drained from it! You put you Heart & Soul into producing a quality event (and Diva has one of the highest production standards of any event in this town) and you end up being met by rousing apathy. The general population in this town have been spoiled rotten. People should travel more and realise that most places - people get nothing, here we get so much offered that we have become blase about it, and half the people have a 'whats next' attitude. I think when people go away for a while they return realising what an amazing city we live in. Participate people or one day you'll turn around and notice that the people who try to do things just can't be bothered any longer. (and thats not mean't to sound like vitriol).
Ian - Wed Oct 11 9:50:01 2000

Ian what is wrong with all the pixie stuff I love the shoes. and
bloke - Wed Oct 11 11:10:04 2000

God I need a fag !!!!!! :o) - Tue Oct 10 23:46:25 2000 - The Elephants Foot is still there & still str8, all it's done is change it's name. They didn't go broke and are still owned by the same consortium. Non smoking resturants in California do exceptionally well, and as for outside seating, think about it. Even as a non smoker I prefer to sit outside, & given the option who wouldn't?? enjoying the outdoors is not restricted to smokers. I don't smoke after taking anything or while drinking, and I don't think every smoker has the need to smoke at exactly the same time as each other so there would be no space problems as far as designated smoking areas are concerned.
Wed Oct 11 12:57:27 2000

what happened to Maude Boate??? why doesn't she perform anymore.....what was the dcm incident??
Wed Oct 11 13:45:38 2000

Look.

It does work.

Wow.

Chiclet, you're a genius

Wed Oct 11 13:52:54 2000

Let me see if it works as well. OK - Does it work ?
Wed Oct 11 14:40:35 2000

It doesnt work
Wed Oct 11 14:41:12 2000

*** heres something else *** Dark Network *** Live *** this Thursday @ Club Kooky *** deep, dubby, tripped out beats *** seymour butz back from spinning out the USA too *** still only $5 *** thursdays 11pm - dawn *** 77 william st e. sydney *** yeah!
Wed Oct 11 15:57:03 2000

come 'uall lets get nasty. give me some dirt. make real nasty
Wed Oct 11 16:24:39 2000

Hey, Ian I know what you mean. I've beem working at board & committee level for MG, Pride, & Aids Trust for about 10 years and while there's a sense of accomplishment in bringing huge events together & raising mega-bucks for the community, it is kinda disheartening to have misinformation, malice and apathy as constant obstacles to overcome in keeping the spectacles as spectacular as possible. You guys have done such a brilliant job with Diva that, like all good things, it has come to seem inevitable, and effortless when clearly the opposite is the case. In fact, each time you do something superbly, you are then subsequently obliged to better it. Anyway, you've convinced me to get some tickets, dry clean my tux, and I'll do my best to convince a small army of others to do the same. It's too special an event to risk losing just because we're all so post-Olympic broke !(The gymnastics tickets were worth it though!)
Marx Brother - Wed Oct 11 16:37:38 2000

Just dont smoke in gay venues - fight for the cause !
Wed Oct 11 17:28:53 2000

Who's playing at Hey Homo? How much? Where can you get tickets? And when is it exactly?
will someone answer my bloody questions - Wed Oct 11 17:44:37 2000

Hey Homo on Sunday 17 November
Wed Oct 11 18:21:46 2000

19 November I mean
Wed Oct 11 18:23:14 2000

abc def
Wed Oct 11 19:42:08 2000

Hey Homo DJs mainroom Jules Beaumont and Alex Taylor
WayCool - Wed Oct 11 22:55:36 2000

What is the consenus on Hey Homo? Personally I used to arrive late to avoid Jules and just listen to Alex for a couple of hours before he nosedived the music after the drag show to very camp slow girlie music and leave at about 4am. Lately I have missed the Alex of old, who since his return from London and Ibiza has been playing funky, non-uplifting, non-melodic and tribal. Examples are ARQ's 1st Birthday, Frisky and Free FM. The last few Hey Homos have been plagued by security attitude problems, raised drink prices, no laser shows (incl Ress-erection, the Easter Hey Homo under a different name coz it was too early to bring it back after saying it would be the last one a few weeks before that), power outages, increaingly straight (a very very straight Ress-erection) and early closures due to patrons collapsing on the dance floor. Can someone from Home please let us know what has been done to rectify these problems?
Hey Straight-0h! - Wed Oct 11 23:12:20 2000

You have to hold down the space bar for three and a half minutes.

Chiclet got it wrong

Thu Oct 12 13:19:55 2000

Three and a half minutes (new paragraph) Ok , I'll give that a go ok now what ?
Thu Oct 12 15:20:10 2000

IT doesnt work !!!!
Thu Oct 12 15:21:13 2000

no it doesn't

Thu Oct 12 15:42:59 2000

try the easy way...and save on those 3 1/2 mins...just add the word B inside < > these brackets after each sentence...and you will have a paragraph
such as this
Enjoy
^Kerry - Thu Oct 12 15:45:21 2000

oops make that the letters BR silly me,,,ohhh and if you want a bigger gap...try the letter HR in these brackets < >
^Kerry..correcting herself - Thu Oct 12 15:47:47 2000

Once upon a time

in a land far far away

lived a girl called goldilocks

she shared her place with 3 bears
Thu Oct 12 15:57:38 2000

HOW KooL !
Thu Oct 12 16:05:21 2000

Was Goldilocks and F2M tranny?
Thu Oct 12 16:22:34 2000

tell me more about Parties please readers!
Bloke - Thu Oct 12 17:44:58 2000

Of all the clubs in Sydney home is the most professional outfit in every respect. Beit a Friday or Saturday night, week in week out, 6000 people check in to club hard, leaving satisfied. On any given Saturday night you'll find home resident DJ's Jules Beaumont and Alex Taylor play along side other local and international DJ's. home is about music and sound: House, Techno, Electro Breaks, Progressive House, Trance, Drum and Base ect ect. home caters for whatever your taste in dance music. home also pays its resident DJs ten fold when compared with other clubs, especially gay clubs in Sydney. The crowd worships Alex on Saturday nights when he begins his set. They all face and dance in his direction. He must be doing something right. We should embrace the fact that his music style evolves. We should be proud of both Alex and Kate for the musical direction they provide at home Sydney. home is not about the look - its about music, sound and whatever you choose to take. Everyone is welcome.
it couldn't have happend to a nicer guy! - Thu Oct 12 17:56:17 2000

As a DJ there is nothing more embarrassing than having people lining up dancing in front of you.
Its such an Adelaide thing to do,and a spin off from rave parties.
Its really sad to see the crowd doing that and its also a BiG turn off and distraction from a DJ being able to perform at his best.
Line Dancing !!! - Thu Oct 12 18:13:00 2000

10 pionts for the above post. well said.
Thu Oct 12 18:21:38 2000

DJ boxes are hidden only in gay clubs. think about the way ARQ is setup and compare that with home.
Thu Oct 12 18:28:55 2000

the DJ box at home is on the dance floor, in the thick of it. And they have the best international DJ's play that gig. Mr Local Pub Line Dancing DJ
too funny - Thu Oct 12 18:33:30 2000

Re the last posting - Is ARQ a gay club ?
You could have fooled me !
Thu Oct 12 18:36:18 2000

You're fooled
Thu Oct 12 18:39:46 2000

All being said and done - People who dance in lines all facing the DJ regardless of the DJ's "status" is sad and distracting.
End of topic !
Thu Oct 12 18:40:58 2000

Clearly, you have not seen how the DJs intereact with the crowd at clubs like home. Why is home's DJ booth on the dance floor?
Thu Oct 12 19:32:25 2000

Discriminatory comment deleted.

Who F*cking cares where a club puts the DJ Box !
To see a large group of grown people in a nightclub all lined up facing the DJ dancing is just so stupid.It makes me laugh and think "What a pack of losers" !
And any DJ who "gets off" on that sort of foney DJ worship outta be shot.Its the sort of thing that could only happen in a club like Home with "That" sort of clientelle !
Sad !!!!
Get a Life - Thu Oct 12 20:14:52 2000

Twisted. Twisted. You sound Twisted!!!!
Sad??? - Thu Oct 12 20:21:08 2000

Hey Homo is on the 12th November {Sleaze Recovery}.The DJ lineup is Alex Taylor, Sveta, Kate Munroe, Bill Costis, Bill Morley, Coco, Jules Beaumont and Junior B. Tickets are $25+bf and are available from Bayswater Fitness, Daly Male and home. Tickets go on sale this weekend.
Thu Oct 12 20:23:40 2000

Twisted.No - i just find people who rave dance ; ie (line dancing in front of a DJ) to be really pathetic and very lame !
Thu Oct 12 20:30:53 2000

What's the big drama to people facing the DJ? Some DJs really enjoy that accolade. Yes it is a spin off from rave culture, specifically the hardcore scene, but so what? Why get yourself so worked up over what someone else does for fun?
EC - Thu Oct 12 20:36:08 2000

couldn't have said it better myself
Thu Oct 12 20:39:45 2000

Some persons fun is another persons sense of total humiliation.I just find it pathetic.
Thu Oct 12 20:53:44 2000

Then turn the other cheek sweetheart.
Thu Oct 12 22:28:37 2000

Then turn the other cheek sweetheart. Thu Oct 12 22:28:37 2000
I cant turn the other cheek.

I'm a top !
Thu Oct 12 22:38:48 2000

Irony is back in fashion. 3/4 pants are out !
Mr Panties - Thu Oct 12 22:58:38 2000

Mr Panties has gone back into his hyper sub space filter data stream processor
Thu Oct 12 23:33:04 2000

Ironing? Get a housekeeper Monsieur Panteez.
PS. A top is just a bottom who was harshly potty trained - Fri Oct 13 7:03:14 2000

How about explaining to people what the rule is about where they should face.
Irony - Fri Oct 13 8:47:44 2000

Face the bowl
Aim Straight
Let It go
Grab It Again
Shake It Around
Put the Lid Down

Fri Oct 13 10:08:25 2000

And Flush !
Fri Oct 13 10:44:06 2000

That sounds like a Madonna song ; "Face the bowl, Aim Straight, Let It go, Grab It Again, Shake It Around,Vogue !
Fri Oct 13 13:17:55 2000

Ringa ringa hora katora camma katora capani horrah. Wirra birra tirra tai. Kai Ki ....
Fri Oct 13 13:50:05 2000

BAD DOG ! sunday 12 november @ berlin steve sonius annabelle gaspar bill cotsis ben drayton
woof - Fri Oct 13 14:56:34 2000

What is "Berlin"?
Fri Oct 13 16:50:27 2000

Berlin is the capital city of a country you may have heard of , does Germany ring any bells for you ?
Fri Oct 13 18:22:52 2000

If that's really the line up for Hey Homo on Nov 12th, then it's not going to be true to the original Hey Homo style at all !! That's more like the line up they had at Res-Erection, which (IMHO) was nothing like Hey Homo, sadly.
jeffgg - Fri Oct 13 19:02:07 2000

panty (one) liners
Fri Oct 13 22:50:35 2000

Sat Oct 14 0:05:30 2000

The line up for Hey Homo is Bill Costis, Junior B, Kate Munroe, Bill Morley, Sveta, Jules Beaumont and Alex Taylor. The line up for previous Hey Homo's was Bill Morley, Sveta, Jules Beaumont and Alex Taylor. Same line up, just with extra DJ's.
Sat Oct 14 0:13:19 2000

Hey Marx Brother I appreciate the comments and the participation - Thanks
Ian - Sat Oct 14 1:05:03 2000

Are Paul Oakenfold and Chicane playing anywhere other than Macquarie Uni?
Sat Oct 14 12:01:09 2000

I refer to it as techno line dancing. You get quite use to it.
Sat Oct 14 12:22:14 2000

You might get used it.
Even all your friends might get used it.
It still looks stupid.
Really Stupid.
Sat Oct 14 12:42:42 2000

oakenfold and chicane were first playing at sydney uni but that got canned so now they are out at macquarie....and tickets are now through central station instead of ticketek
Sat Oct 14 17:27:17 2000

any feedback on Brisbane sleaze, they is lots of fun to be had, so l;aid-back and friendly
Sat Oct 14 18:37:02 2000

Brisbane Sleaze ?

DJ Paul Goodyear !

City Of Brisbane.

What a Horrific combination

I dont think any further explaination is required !
Sat Oct 14 19:32:22 2000
This is the opinion of the poster.

I hear that home is planning something really special for the next hey home, i mean the line up is tops, but apparently the decor-out of this world!
majestic meredith - Sat Oct 14 22:48:41 2000

i hear that home is planning something pretty special for hey homo, i mean the line up is tops, but apparently the decor-out of this world!
majestic meredith - Sat Oct 14 22:50:25 2000

i love line dancing, i really get off on it
majestic meredith - Sat Oct 14 22:51:58 2000

I heard that Ferry Corsten was to be at Arq this Sunday? and Oakey next Sunday? What do you think
Sun Oct 15 0:38:18 2000

a little birdy told me that Stonewall is for sale. the current owners have had enough & want out. which is for the best considering they refuse to spend any $ on maintaining the sound system & DJ gear (as demonstrated on friday night when they had 1 & 1/2 hours silence in the cocktail bar the amps blew *again!*
El Panteez - Sun Oct 15 19:31:37 2000

I dont need this shit !
Green Velvet - Sun Oct 15 19:43:09 2000

I heard that Oakey was playing at the Shift and that Elvis was working at Nando's
deluded - Sun Oct 15 20:19:18 2000

El Panteez - Sun Oct 15 19:31:37 2000 - Sorry bud,you are a little behind the times.Stonewall has been on the Market since March 2000.Its just that the place has been on the market by word of mouth rather than having a huge "For Sale" sign stuck outside on the wall.To be honest,I would like to see that place go under for good.I hope the new owners turn it fully straight (well it almost is now) so that us G&L patrons can start going back to venues that welcome our community more than Stonewall does.
Mon Oct 16 14:42:23 2000

**** yay **** this thursday @ club kooky ***** L.I.V.E *** MeeM (pusly bleep) **** Little nobody (electro) *** plus Nod & Son of Zev (melb) ***** 4acts for $5 **** plus seymour butz & Dj Gemma (back from spinning in Paris) *** 77 william street 11pm - dawn
Mon Oct 16 15:41:55 2000

kooky so aptly describes "that" above event posting in fact looking at my thesaurus kooky is descibed as mad, extreme, indifferent , foolish , unwise, silly, idiotic, senseless, outrageous , outlandish, ridiculous, bizarre, peculiar, weird, eccentric, odd, zany,
well that says all ! - Mon Oct 16 17:06:37 2000

I going then - cause thats nothing like the gay scene now is it?
Mon Oct 16 19:19:05 2000

La Pantalooons behind the times? C'est ne possible pas
Mon Oct 16 22:40:31 2000

Hey any gossip from DIVA"s???? Who won what?????
The Doctor - Tue Oct 17 8:53:01 2000

who did the best live singing go to?
sorry couldn't help myself ;) - Tue Oct 17 16:31:53 2000

Fritz_69 didnt win any awards
Tue Oct 17 18:58:33 2000

So - Did Alex Taylor win the best Dj again for the 579th time ?
Dj awards are simply bookends ! - Tue Oct 17 21:24:22 2000

Go kooksters! Welcome back to dj Gemma after spinning with Biftek in gay Paris! So close to the Butzter just back from Folsom Street. This kooky virus keeps spreading and spreading. Never stop!
happy kid - Wed Oct 18 11:39:01 2000

Obviously written by someone who's been a loser too many times!
Wed Oct 18 11:48:34 2000

No - written by your average punter who goes out most weekends and thinks that there are far more popular DJ's around town at the moment besides Mr Taylor.For example there is a little group of DJ's playing at a certain Sleaze Ball party in November.I dont see Mr Taylor on that list ?
Wed Oct 18 12:55:31 2000

Anyway - Who Didf Win the best DJ award at diva ?? Details please - details !!
Wed Oct 18 12:57:04 2000

Potentially libelous comment deleted.

Alex has played at many Mardi Gras and Sleaze parties and has an excellent relationship with gay community organisations. This year at Sleaze there are at least 4 djs that I can spot that have never played at either mg or sleaze before. 2 are from overseas so god only knows how the above poster imagines them as part of some local clique. Mark Murphy and Baby Bear are definitely not 'in ' with 'that bunch' & got their gigs like everyone else on the basis of their submission & ability. Steven Alkins is definitely also not a member of 'that bunch' as his recent criticisms of mg make clear.
Wed Oct 18 14:17:08 2000

Besides some of the DJ's in the dome I don't even know who is playing, I'm guessing it's probably Greg Boladian & Luke Leal in the RHI, and probably Sveta in the Horden with Steve Sonius & Buck playing the Men's tent & either Kelly or Kate Munroe in the girls tent... yawn. Same party different year. Is there anything else on the same night as Sleaze??
Wed Oct 18 14:18:38 2000

To 'Wed Oct 18 14:17:08 2000'...Mark Murphy and Baby Bear did not provide submissions to MG...Glen Horder was at an 'ice' party and without much imagination, saw the party working (I guess), and copied the DJ line-up for the most part. Glen and his cronies basically called the 'ice' DJs and just asked if they would play. Just goes to show that MG are still at least 5 years behind the rest of the pack and have to steal ideas from others. Grrrrr....
call me nancy - Wed Oct 18 14:39:07 2000

Well, I think Ice have always made it clear that they exist to be copied by the mainstream. The mainstream will, by definition, never be bleeding edge. So once again, congrats to Glenn for breathing new life into a potentially stale format and making an investment in the future.
Darrin Stephens - Wed Oct 18 15:55:09 2000

dear nancy, it is so simple really - if you do not the lineup for sleaze then don't go! the rest of us punters would love to not have you there.
Shaerin - Wed Oct 18 18:08:29 2000

Wed Oct 18 14:18:38 2000 - yes. there's a party being thrown by a crashing bore and a total wanker at your house. best you go along.
Wed Oct 18 19:04:24 2000

Wed Oct 18 14:18:38 2000 - how stupid are you ? The DJ line up for sleaze has been public information for over a month now.If you dont know what the line up is then you havent been paying any attention whatsoever.For the record you assumption DJ line up is way out of whack and you couldnt be more wrong. Go and do some research before you open your silly mouth next time !
Wed Oct 18 19:05:32 2000

Wed Oct 18 19:05:32 2000 - being such a crashing bore and a total wanker, I can't be bothered to find out what the line up is, so why don't you tell me. But I'm guessing I'm not too far off the mark and your just upset because your ego or pride has been hurt.
Thu Oct 19 9:54:42 2000

Thu Oct 19 9:54:42 2000 - how can my ego or pride be hurt when i am absolutely filled with joy at the DJ line up for Sleaze (particulary in the RHI which I shall not leave all night)
.And since you are such a crashing bore let me enlighten you.
RHI 10pm-2am Jake Kilby (on debut) 2am-5am Barry (Thunderpuss 2000) Harris fronm the USA (on debut) and 5am-8am Greg Boladian (1st Sleaze Ball having done MG 99)
in the Hordern (not that it matters) is 10am-2am Annabelle Gasper (her 1st time in the Hordern) 2am-5am Steven Alkins (not my cup of tea - but I suppose its well deserved) and 5am-8am Sveta (same comment to alkins)
in the Dome it is an "ICE" party with 4 DJ's that will play banging ear bleeding house - In this order Luke Leal (his debut in the Dome) Baby Bear,Gonzalez (UK Trade DJ),then Mark Murphy to close (on debut).
There are NO mens tents,womens tents or any other form of entertainment outside of the 3 halls for this party which as has been discussed before & I find to be a total rip off.
There you go , consider yourself educated !
Teacher Teacher - Thu Oct 19 11:37:05 2000

Teacher Teacher - Thu Oct 19 11:37:05 2000 - so I wasn't too far off the mark after all, only it's worse than I expected in the RHI! I shudder at the thought of going in there. Looks like the Horden is the pick of the night for anyone going.
An A+ student - Thu Oct 19 12:42:12 2000

I think the term "rip off" when associated with a commmunity fundraiser shows that the writer has no concept of what Sleaze is all about!
Thu Oct 19 13:18:27 2000

My my what a rip-off. What with the ticket at around one fifth of the money you'll spend on drugs for the night ...
Thu Oct 19 14:02:09 2000

drugs ? I dont touch the evil things !
Thu Oct 19 15:26:45 2000

What happened at Diva?
Thu Oct 19 15:42:10 2000

deat teacher, i'm happy to see you are thrilled at the dj lineup for sleaze. however, how do you know there will not be any further entertainment at the party? are you on the party committee? have you spoken with the party director? maybe if you do you you might not feel so ripped off
Shaerin Magoodies - Thu Oct 19 18:25:28 2000

Shaerin Magoodies - Thu Oct 19 18:25:28 2000 You did not read my posting properly - i quote "There are NO mens tents,womens tents or any other form of entertainment outside of the 3 halls for this party"
I place the emphasis on the words "Outside of the 3 halls" - indicating that the party is just the bare 3 halls this year and there are no spaces for "alternative" activities if you know what i mean.
Teacher Teacher - Thu Oct 19 18:36:05 2000

$85 for 3 halls, a choice of 3 fantastic music styles from great DJs + shows that you know nothing about at this stage. Looks like a baragin to me. I am not saying that smaller parties with a similar ticket price, such as Inquisition, Hand in Hand and Pride are not good value, but if you are prepared to pay for these, then Sleaze represents great value for money - more choices. Add to the fact that all of the abovementioned parties are fundraisers for our community groups (whether you agree with the politics or not), and if there is anything at all of musical or "good time" interest in any of them, bloody well support them. Buy a ticket, have a good time with your friends, wonder around, enjoy the experience.
Mara Devlin - Thu Oct 19 19:29:13 2000

I want to take this chance to be the first on this pinkboard to congratulate DJ Jake Kilby on winning the Diva Best Dj on Monday night.It couldnt happen to a nicer person as well as being a very dear friend of mine. I've followed Jake's DJ career with interest since 1996 and have seen him develop into a fine DJ indeed and now earns the respect of many many people on the G&L scene - this particulary is true when you realize the large number of G&L venues his talents are in demand at - Shift , Albury ,Arq , Flinders , Stonewall , Annies , Beauchamp (I think that all of them) ! Congrats Jake - its great to see the Diva DJ award actually (for a change) going to a DJ that works exclusively in G&L venues.And its the first time in many years that the Best DJ is also playing at Sleaze Ball.I just hope that somebody else who reads this posting who knows Jake will show or tell him about what I have written here.
Imagine - Thu Oct 19 19:50:12 2000

Thu Oct 19 13:18:27 2000 - I think that alot of people view MG and Sleaze as fundraisers when it suits them (ie. when you aren't getting value for money) and "tribal" events when you want to exclude people from coming along. So which is it? Are the parties fundraisers? or tribal events?
Please clarify. - Thu Oct 19 20:20:44 2000

Imagine - he will see it. Congrats Jake!
Thu Oct 19 20:28:35 2000

Please use the Sleaze 2000 Degrees Graffit Wall for your discussions about Sleaze.

Ice in a great venue like the Dome, FAB
Thu Oct 19 21:21:12 2000

To "Please clarify. - Thu Oct 19 20:20:44 2000 " MG and Sleaze are fundraising tribal events. Easy.
Mr Clarification - Fri Oct 20 15:38:37 2000

Looking forward to hearing all about Sleaze, as I'm sure it will be a good night. For me, however, my Sleaze weekend will not involve the more commercial events. I'll be off to Grunt for a bit of raunch, and if I'm still standing Homo Au GoGo on the recovery night.
Rome - Fri Oct 20 16:22:20 2000

Rome - just curious, no malice. Would you have gone to Sleaze if Grunt was not on?
Just Out of Interest - Fri Oct 20 17:08:24 2000

To work exclusively in G&L venues and what? Get paid ten time less. Str8 venues pay more. You can't blame for wanting to pay his rent
gay people party at str8 venues too - Fri Oct 20 19:35:58 2000

well said
Fri Oct 20 19:37:44 2000

well said Fri Oct 20 19:37:44 2000 Good to see that you can congratulate yourself for your posting at "gay people party at str8 venues too - Fri Oct 20 19:35:58 2000"
duplication - Fri Oct 20 19:50:51 2000

how do you know its the same person
??????? - Fri Oct 20 20:51:21 2000

who's playing at Pride ? does anyone know/care ?
Fri Oct 20 20:51:47 2000

Dj's have been chosen for Pride and were done so as early as September 30 (i received a rejection letter October 5).For some reason they are withholding the names of the DJ's till the end of October,why I have no idea ? Sorry I could not be of more help at this point in time.
Prideless :( - Fri Oct 20 21:22:57 2000

to rome - what do you think homo au go go and grunt are? yes thats right they are commercial events. no more and no less than sleaze. i am sure they will also be excellent events, but lets not try to kid ourselves
Shaerin - Fri Oct 20 22:13:02 2000

??????? - Fri Oct 20 20:51:21 2000 - he thinks only one person can visit pinkboard at a time.
It ain't like cubicle at Signal, honey! - Fri Oct 20 22:28:37 2000

??????? - Fri Oct 20 20:51:21 2000 - he thinks only one person can visit pinkboard at a time. It ain't like cubicle at Signal, honey! - Fri Oct 20 22:28:37 2000 - he just might well be a she ! dont be a sexist pig all your life please !
Fri Oct 20 22:49:19 2000

sorry. i made the sexist presumption that someone who thought that pinkboard was only inhabited by 3 posters in total would be male.
Fri Oct 20 23:56:19 2000

I got my Pride rejection letter yesterday ! they took an extra 2 weeks to decide to reject me. is Kate still involved in the selection ?
Guess who, dont sue ! - Sat Oct 21 0:43:26 2000

I know the line up and Kate is not on it. Unless my informant is mistaken. She may still be involved with selection, but is not playing.
Shaerin Ma Info - Sat Oct 21 0:52:20 2000

Kate might not be playing the party ,but i wonder if sue spears will be ? She too is on the selection committee for pride.
A possible lesbian dj conspiracy - Wont Mulder be scully be jealous ? - Sat Oct 21 11:38:40 2000

Friday night 20 October = After all the hype and advertising about CeasersBar moving from Petersham to Camperdown a big roll up occurred last night to be offered what / A gay bar / room without a liquor licence ? Well that was a joke ! The place was empty before it could get full ! And what IS it with the new location ? Who in their right mind would think that a gay venue could work in the Old Apia Club on Parramatta Road at Camperdown ? What with the Apia clubs history of being a homophobic drug haven for "ethic" boys (no offense - just trying to paint a picture here) as well as the well known 4 or 5 local pubs within 500 metres that attracts the homophobic English and Irish drunks - the place used to be on constant all night survalience by the Police in "those" days. What makes the the new owners think that this will change / Word has it that the Pommie/Irish boys nearby have already got wind of a "PoofterBar" forming at the Apia and are more than willing to cause it trouble ! And who in there right mind would go ahead with an opening night without an alcohol licence ?
R.I.P Ceasers - Another gay venue dead ! - Sat Oct 21 12:18:55 2000

Boycott Homelands.
Sat Oct 21 15:38:45 2000

Why Boycott Homelands?
Mara - Sat Oct 21 15:57:49 2000

I wont be boycotting Homelands. I've already bought a canister of Nitrous Oxide to share with Green Velvet in the backstage bar.
Mr Panties (this is no laughing matter) - Sat Oct 21 18:35:22 2000

he he he he he - ha ha !
the Stalker - Sun Oct 22 1:06:50 2000

**** this thursday @ kooky **** L.I.V.E debut of *StarChasm* featuring the sexy members of Friendly and Severed Heads **** yay! Dj gemma & seymour too **** 11pm till dawn *** 77 william street E. sydney
Sun Oct 22 15:21:11 2000

"C" is for Kooky thats good enough to eat "C" is for Kooky thats good enough to eat "C" is for Kooky thats good enough to eat , oh kooky kooky kooky starts with "C" !
The cookie monster (who needs to go to a spelling bee) - Sun Oct 22 15:40:44 2000

Would the cheap lowlife who run the establishlishment at the Flinders Hotel please put the toilet door back on the mens cubicle.Theres only 2 cubicles in the mens, and for 4 weeks there has only been one cubicle available with a door.I think a letter to the health department at south sydney council is in order.A source of mine tells me the owner refuses to repair anything that gets broken from now on - Cheap !!!
Sun Oct 22 16:44:28 2000

Why boycott Homelands? What I have heard about it sounds awesome.
Sun Oct 22 23:42:59 2000

I'm going to homelands, my BF goes to them in the UK and rekons they are great.
BND - Mon Oct 23 11:08:17 2000

Excuse me for my ignorance, but what is Homelands?
Mon Oct 23 16:57:00 2000

If you don't know what homelands is you must be very gay and you must not go. all are not welcom.
Mon Oct 23 18:29:33 2000

Go have a look at http://www.homelands.com.au it is a very cool site but then again I am easily amused)
BND - Mon Oct 23 18:48:24 2000

Mr Panties -will you be there with my dentist? He was arrested in February for administering ozone up some women's bum (I kid you not - it was in the paper) He was most offended that I didn't think that his nitrous oxide was the best thing I'd ever had. Ho hum. PS - Miguel Migs for November 11. Forget G&L events.
lovin' it - Mon Oct 23 22:40:15 2000

"Forget G&L events" so we can hang out with you ? You're talking about something that happened to your dentist 8 months ago for god sake, and you want to give people social advice? Nitrous oxide is to pharmaceuticals what Miguel Migs will be to November 11...
Tue Oct 24 0:00:09 2000

Anybody know what the deal is with the Paul Okenfold tour?? I hear he is performing for free at Fox Studios Nov 4, the Saturday before Sleaze. Anyone know details??
Tue Oct 24 13:25:05 2000

Tried www.homelands.com.au three times, keeps coming back with a proxy server report. Another address?
Tue Oct 24 13:27:30 2000

anon: The Perfecto Tour (Paul Oakenfold plus Chicane) are playing at Macquarie Uni Atrium building on 4/11 (I think that's the date).
JGT - Tue Oct 24 13:34:02 2000

I wish Paul Oakenfield would go back to the UK and bore all the English.I'm getting sicks of of these boring tours to OZ that he makes. *Yawn*
Tue Oct 24 15:06:38 2000

I saw a Perfecto poster on a lightpole advertising a gig for free at Fox Studios, by Paul Okenfold (& Chicane) on Nov 4. Anyone know any details??
Tue Oct 24 17:28:31 2000

Tue Oct 24 15:06:38 2000 - you really should stop going to hear his sets since he bores you so much. But then you wouldn't have anything at all in your life I suppose.
Wed Oct 25 14:10:07 2000

why must you all be so gay
? - Wed Oct 25 15:31:33 2000

Dont miss the sexy "starChasm" Live @ kooky this thursday. Euro cheese has had its go, try a local flavour....
Wed Oct 25 15:36:56 2000

The rumour is that Oakenfold will be making a guest appearence at Home while he's here. Makes sense seeing as he'd played at Home London for so long.
anyone know? - Thu Oct 26 1:06:36 2000

Doubt that will be happening. Oakenfold no longer has anything to do with Home London "(Home)London's not happening, not happening at all. Thats why I left. Homelands the festival is really good, but the club is in Leicester Square, which is the commercal part. The Fabric's doing really well....." Interview with Paul Oakenfold current issue of "Large" page 14.
BND - Thu Oct 26 10:31:22 2000

Paul Muriat sings the Beatles.
Fri Oct 27 10:38:25 2000

Any suggestions for this weekend? when does the shift re-open? is the Phoneix the only place worth go out to these days?
Questions questions questions - Fri Oct 27 13:45:05 2000

Sunday afternoon/evening at the Wooloomooloo Bay Hotel upstairs is sensational. Music by Scotty Pullen, Bill Cotsis, Kate Monroe and others, overlooking the harbour at sunset on huge balconies,food and drink at straight pub prices, mixed friendly crowd. It's a great alternative to the gloomy, nocturnal charms of clubland.
Marx Brother - Fri Oct 27 16:25:56 2000

OK >>>> Drum Roll >>>> Here It Is >>>> Pride New Years Eve DJ Line up >>>> Fox Studios >>>> Sunday 31/12/2000 >>>> Hordern Pavilion (in playing order) Gavan Bright , Sue (Im on the board and party committee at Pride) Spears (dont you just love conflict of interests) , and to close Mark Alsop. The Dome (in playing order) DJ Chip , Colleen Naxon , Ben Drayton >>> 3rd Space TBA (either open tent or a new hall) David Hiscock , Roger Z >>> Well there you have it.Isn't that just the worst ever ever *EVeR* Dance party DJ line up of all time ? And as for Sue Spears who is on the committee at Pride and was the main DJ selector - have you ever seen a worse case of nepotism.She should be ashamed of herself. I cant understand how people can have the gaul to choose themselves for a public party. Doesnt the term "conflict of interst" carry ANY weight in this world these days ? Obviously not.So I am now on the lookout for somewhere to party on NYE cause Fox Studio's Pride event makes me wanna puke (and this is the opinion of the poster).
Nepotistic bastards - Fri Oct 27 20:07:17 2000

And while I am on my soap box >>> Re SGLMG party March 2001 >>> I think i need a hearing check.I got told at Fish Records today that Mardi Geas 2001 party tickets are now on sale for (get this) $115 !!!!!!!!
Hello !!!!!!!
Another $15 increase which represents a 15% increase from $100.Has SGLMG looked at the latest CPI and Inflation figures lately cause it aint anything like 15% !
Are we all being treated like fools here ? Can somebody even get close to justifying this increase for me ? C'mon have go - i dare you.
Follow the money trail - Fri Oct 27 20:15:27 2000

I've never even heard of Sue Spears. nepotism ? well, Virginia got her (hetro) brother to DJ at the 97/98 party
Fri Oct 27 20:54:43 2000

how much of the price rise is due to the gst?
increasingly become a Fundraising party (not a tribal one) - Sat Oct 28 0:55:35 2000

Isn't it Sioux Spears?
Sat Oct 28 9:06:54 2000

At least there is no GST on drugs!
Sat Oct 28 9:07:17 2000

I dont care how (sue sioux) is spelt she's still gotta be totally bagged out for being such a self rightous bitch and choosing herself to play at Pride.Its so wrong given her standing on the board at Pride.It would be like Glen Horder deciding that he would DJ at Mardi Gras ! I think this needs to be taken further , time to write to the letters colomn of the gay rags i think
A>D - Sat Oct 28 9:14:25 2000

My drug dealer has an ABN and is registered for GST. He provides me with a tax invoice everytime I purchase my supply. I'm planning on claiming back the GST I've paid in my quarterly BAS.
Can't wait to be ATO audited - Sat Oct 28 10:25:02 2000

Well we don't know the exact selection process of the Pride people so maybe she wasn't directly involved or maybe the others insisted she DJ....... who knows? I just hope she is good. As for the line up....I haven't heard any of those names before! I haven't been around that long but I know quite a few names and have gone to all the parties. I had fun at last years Pride so lets hope this years one is great too! I'll be expecting a great MG for $115..... sheesh @ more price rises.
Sat Oct 28 12:11:33 2000

A little birdy told me that Maggie Kirkpatrick might be performing at Hey Homo. Please tell me it's true!!!
prisoner fan - Sat Oct 28 14:42:52 2000

Re: Maggie Kirkpatrick? Who cares? Home isn't exactly wheelchair accessible! Would she mime "On the Inside"? That holds about as much interest for me as watching Tina Cousins (again) or Human Nature!
Ya Freak! - Sat Oct 28 17:04:03 2000

Happy Pride Perth!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!
Sat Oct 28 17:31:21 2000

Sat Oct 28 12:11:33 2000 - you're going to be disappointed. the parties are, and always have been fundraisers. Go to another party where the promoters don't rely for years on end, on past reputation to sell tickets. You'll get your money's worth then.
Sat Oct 28 17:52:22 2000

Well I always manage to have fun at MG, Pride, Sleaze, HiH, Frisky etc. and if its FuNdaraising in the process - great! Try not being twisted..... you might enjoy it.
Sat Oct 28 19:17:23 2000

Well we don't know the exact selection process of the Pride people so maybe she wasn't directly involved Sat Oct 28 12:11:33 2000 === Guess what ? Sue Spears was involved in the DJ selection and was so up to here eyeballs !! She in fact was the main person who chose the DJ's.I agree,nepotism at its extreme worst.Pride should be embarrassed with themselves
only a boy - Sat Oct 28 21:33:00 2000

is this a case of pride should be ummm. ashamed? ;)
Sun Oct 29 1:43:56 2000

love how people think they are getting a good deal because they don't have to pay gst on drugs. dealer gets rich sitting on his arse whilst the rest of us slave away at a 40 a week job in order to buy the stupid things - yeah great deal!
Sun Oct 29 10:43:48 2000

only a boy - Sat Oct 28 21:33:00 2000 This is the most solid DJ line of many a Sydney party, I plan to attend with Bells on, esp DJ Chip, how is a DJ god at the moment.
notso - Sun Oct 29 12:43:07 2000

EC - Thu Oct 12 20:36:08 2000 Well Said until somebody gets poked in the eye with a glowstick :-) I do love making my Rock DJ feel appreciated!
ex raver - Sun Oct 29 12:56:48 2000

Nepotistic bastards - Fri Oct 27 20:07:17 2000 Sue did not hire or select DJ's. It was a consultant that the committee engaged to review the many applications and make a Line UP proposal. This person has selected some hot DJ�s. The Worse Line UP! Not Chip is f#%king Sic mate. Sue is a bit chin hot Chick with dex�s Ben is sensational so too is Collene Naxon this mum is a vinyl spin mistress! No need to ask the obvious.
ex raver - Sun Oct 29 13:09:49 2000

For the great DJ line check out heyhomo.
me thinks enough said! - Sun Oct 29 16:05:38 2000

For the great DJ line check out heyhomo.
me thinks enough said! - Sun Oct 29 16:05:41 2000

Is it the drugs, or do these postings make no sense? Slow down people and re-read your message before posting!
You're all doing my head in..
Sun Oct 29 20:12:21 2000

so ... just who is Sue Spears ? has she ever DJ'd in a club ? is she the female version of "JoJo" ? I've never heard of Chip either.
Denon Cue Button - Sun Oct 29 21:19:52 2000

I am finding the Perth gay clubs seem to be playing amazing types of music lately. I am sad at having to leave to go home.
Mon Oct 30 0:25:30 2000

Denon Cue Button - Sun Oct 29 21:19:52 2000 well you�re obviously a DJ that didn't get selected. Chip is Chip, Well known by music lovers with taste! Sue is Sue well known by Lebo�s with taste. You seem to know who Mark Alsop is or you would have questioned his ability. Lovey you need to get out more and visit other clubs than ARQ. Try Icebox, The Exchange, Ceasers, The Barracks, The Shift.
Dennon loop mode - Mon Oct 30 12:58:06 2000

I've never heard of Chip either. But I have heard he has poor music selection matched with NO mixing ability. Sounds good, NoT.
Has he ever played in a real club? - Mon Oct 30 13:04:43 2000

Chip is a great DJ, with great taste in music. He has played at Ice, the Milkbar, Phoniex, the Shift & Barracks. I agree that there seems to be a bit of Nepotisim going on at Pride, with Sue this year & Kate last year, but apart from that I reckon it's a great line up (both halls) and think it should be a great party, again.
Not from Pride - Mon Oct 30 14:16:46 2000

Has he ever played in a real club? - Mon Oct 30 13:04:43 2000 - sounds like another poor DJ with their bruised ego!! must have thought their tape was better than Chip's, and is now devastated to learn that Chip is a better DJ then them.
Mon Oct 30 14:20:59 2000

To: Has he ever played in a real club? Do you go out? Ever? Chip has played at most of the gay clubs in Sydney. Even Arq. He is a sexy sounding DJ and who ever told you the mis-info you stated is obviously deaf
Mon Oct 30 14:22:35 2000

I happen to think 'chipy's' a very bad sounding DJ. Yes I've heard him play. Others may feel different, and good for them. But I've heard much, much better, then chipy. Nothing to do with him as a person just his poor ability when it comes to mixing.
the word is out! - Mon Oct 30 15:17:41 2000

Under-statement of the year "a bit of Nepotisim going on at Pride".
its to funny - Mon Oct 30 15:20:10 2000
This is the opinion of the poster.

To: the word is out! - Mon Oct 30 15:17:41 2000 - the only word which is out is your malicious ill-informed one.
Mon Oct 30 16:36:53 2000

Malicious & ill-informed? Nothing of the sort. Chipy just can't mix for SH*T
the word is out - Mon Oct 30 16:50:14 2000
This is the opinion of the poster.

the word is out - Mon Oct 30 16:50:14 2000 - Disgruntled DJ or ex-boyfriend?? either way you're deaf if that's your real opinion, or just vile if it's not!
Mon Oct 30 16:58:48 2000

Thanks Pride for the best parade and dance party ever in Perth. Everything rocked!!!!!
Mon Oct 30 17:38:10 2000

Why work yourself up if some has the opinion the Chip can't mix? Why can't someone hold that opinion. So what if someone feels like that? You think the sun shines out of his ass, again so what?
Mon Oct 30 19:27:30 2000

just a reminder - bombed returns to 111 regent st this friday (3/11) for another blistering attack on the senses. djs - viva l'amour, lanny k, mark murphy. only $10 from 10am. road test those goodies. see ya there.
Mon Oct 30 19:57:51 2000

Just logged onto Pinkboard for the first time in ages to have a look see and what do I find..?? The same - people cutting each other down. Does nothing change? I thought this wall for chat on what was good/bad and whats happening etc. Not direct attacks at people who work in the industry, to create the "scene". Without the "Chips" and "jojos" etc there would be no scene for us to enjoy. Think about that before you slag off people that are working each and every week to provide us with entertainment.
BW - Mon Oct 30 20:49:10 2000

I aint a DJ, but I do have an opinion. if you dont agree with me, then that's fine.
Denon Cue Button - Mon Oct 30 22:51:18 2000

Owners, publicans, promoters, Djs, drag queens, door bitches, security and bartenders are (in that order) the paid professionals of our drug and alcohol fuelled quasi-culture. Copping the occaisional criticism and attitude is in their job description. If they don't like it, or can't cope, I notice Mcdonalds is hiring...
Mon Oct 30 23:36:04 2000

Owners, publicans, promoters, Djs, drag queens, door bitches, security and bartenders are (in that order) the paid professionals just like the punters are mostly drug f#$ked clubbers paranoid with no life. smells like the comments on this wall, 'by the word is out'. Just wondering 'word is out' can you beat mix better? Didn't think so! Ben, Chip, Sue, Mark, Gavin, Colleen (Pride line up) Can all Beat Mix!
I am not deaf or mute - Tue Oct 31 0:56:55 2000

Some of you people are real cretins. How dare you publicly bag a DJ on this wall while admitting that you have never heard of him.
TW - Tue Oct 31 6:48:22 2000

Sleaze Recovery. . .lounge@midnightshift 9am free entry Alex Taylor playing till 1pm
C U There - Tue Oct 31 10:01:45 2000

Look, "Chip, Sue, Mark, Gavin, (Pride line up) Can all Beat Mix!" ? to say these people can beat mix is just to funny. Its more than matching a beat to another track. None of the above mentioned have a reg gig, atleast not in a real Nite Club. I'm sure all of them are very nice people, I'm only saying they should get another hobby and leave the DJing to the pro's.
the word is out - Tue Oct 31 14:32:37 2000
This is the opinion of the poster.

good to see chip has a fan
I am not deaf or mute - Tue Oct 31 15:04:09 2000

Can someone tell me why a perfectly good venue is not being used? I refer to Wharf 8. It's 3 times the size of the Metro Capacity wise and has a management keen to have Gay parties there, yet our various community bodies still haven't put on a party there. Why I bring this up, is that I was at a very successsful straight charity gig there on the weekend - Sir David Martin Foundation, Booghie Nights Party. The venue is just brilliant. Please somebody put on a great Party there.
Just a Party Boy - Tue Oct 31 16:00:00 2000
This is the opinion of the poster.

Lets face it , a DJ can never get a gig at a major dance party unless he/she is the know with the particular organization choosing said DJ's.Each and every organization (Mardi Gras,Pride and ACON) is corrupt and only DJ's who are "mates" or "favourites" with a particular party committee ever really have a chance of selection.It just so happens that Pride is the most openly and blatently biased of the three groups.Sue Spears being on the committee and being chosen for the middle spot in the main hall is a joke.I compare it to this scenario - "Glen Horder party director of Mardi Gras would like to announce that he has decided to DJ in the RHI for Mardi Gras 2001"....No company in any field of life would allow such nepotism to occur as has occurred with Pride NYE for the DJ selections for the last two of their parties (remember the Kate Munroe debacle last year).Someone should shut Pride down permanently,they dont deserve the support of the Gay and Lesbian community.
disgusted - Tue Oct 31 16:10:29 2000

agree. agree. agree.
Tue Oct 31 17:20:22 2000

To: Just a Party Boy. Because its not Oxford St. You're better of at str8 parties anyway.
Tue Oct 31 17:23:51 2000

To the word is out - Tue Oct 31 14:32:37 2000 - not only deaf, malicious & illinformed, but it seems stupid as well. If you had done your homework or even bothered to open a paper you would know that nearly all of them have permanent gigs, and yes even in clubs. Gee, wouldn't that make them 'professionals'! All you have manage to do is demonstrate your ignorance and stupidity one more time.
The word is out, I'm an idiot! - Tue Oct 31 17:37:32 2000

Talk about partying? The Afao/Napwa Education Team are holding workshops for gay men who like to party. This is an opportunity to talk about partying with other gay men and look at some new education campaigns. Workshop participants will receive $20 to cover expenses.
jbollen@afao.org.au - Tue Oct 31 17:42:05 2000

disgusted - Tue Oct 31 16:10:29 2000 - oh dear dear dear. The 'corruption' of choosing the DJs they pay to play on the night of their fundraising events. Such evil. Almost as bad as One Nation they are. Does visiting this board cause brain devolvement due to cultural osmosis or something?
Tue Oct 31 18:55:02 2000

Would anyone from Pride like to comment?
Tue Oct 31 19:28:00 2000

From email from:
Sydney PRIDE Centre - Members Mailing List - http://www.PRIDECentre.com.au

Sydney PRIDE Centre is pleased to announce the theme for this New Year's Eve Party.

The theme and poster were unveiled at the official launch of the party at Stonewall last night.

Pagan Night promises to be the most exciting and visually spectacular party PRIDE has ever thrown and will feature three shows with live performances and dazzling costumes.

...
Tue Oct 31 19:40:52 2000

To anyone who believes that a dj is only picked for a party because he or she has friends on the committe, you are so far off base. It is undeniable that it has happened in some previous occasions, but to say that *no* dj who hasn't got mates on a committee will be selected is ridiculous. I am about to play my second major dance party for MG, and only through being selected for a second time, have I begun to meet various members of the committee and other officials. Prior to my first selection, I only knew one person who worked for Mardi Gras. That person is *not* a close friend and is also *not* on the party committe who selects the dj's for the parties.
Tue Oct 31 20:01:07 2000

Pride NYE is a fundraiser for the Pride Centre. Ok. now, what exactly is the purpose of the Pride Centre ? every time I walk past or pop my head in there, it's empty. this is not a critisism, but a genuine question.
Mr Panties - Tue Oct 31 20:11:05 2000

Wharf 8 might be a great venue but its high risk for any promoter trying to get a queer crowd to venture out of the inner East.
This is my opinion. - Tue Oct 31 22:09:05 2000

Tue Oct 31 20:01:07 2000 - this posting is by Jake Kilby or Greg Boladian (they are the only 2 that fit into the "this is my 2nd party for MG" category)
Tue Oct 31 23:44:35 2000

Dear Chip Try adjustinging the equaliser on your mixer and you might become a good?? sounding DJ. Good on you, Chip. Congratulations on Pride. About time. You deserve it.
Screw the Beatmixers - Tue Oct 31 23:49:16 2000

Dear This is my opinion, I was talking about community bodies, like say 2002. If they put on a party at Wharf 8 I'm sure it would be supported. It's a great space. Also, while I'm here does any body else notice Mr Panties is continually trying to pull things down. His opinions always seem to be slighted to the negative, why?
Just a Part Boy - Tue Oct 31 23:51:29 2000

Oops.. slip of the finger on that signage
Just a Party Boy - Tue Oct 31 23:55:59 2000

dear obsessives of beat mixing. when was the last time you were out and saw everybody go rushing to dance floor to dance to a "flawless beat mix", and then return to their seats once the beat mix was over? Doesn't anyone care about the Music?
go figure - Wed Nov 1 0:07:00 2000

Nepotism Favouritism shown to relatives in giving jobs or privileges. Get it right.
The aust. pocket oxford dictionary - Wed Nov 1 0:09:54 2000

Nepotism Favouritism shown to relatives in giving jobs or privileges. Get it right. The aust. pocket oxford dictionary - Wed Nov 1 0:09:54 2000 ---------------------------------------------------------- Dont be so F*cking petty --- you know what the gist of the subject matter is
Wed Nov 1 0:29:40 2000

But I thought being petty was manditory for the cretans that read and participate in this piece of patheticness.
Bored - Wed Nov 1 8:10:21 2000

To - disgusted - Tue Oct 31 16:10:29 2000 - going by your comments then you think we should all boycott Frisky, because Jojo has the nerve to play himself, and then we should boycott Ice because Craig and Kevin dare to hire their favourite DJ's, and then we should boycott Hey Homo because Justine hire's her favourite DJ's. Grow up and move into the real world! promotors pick and choose DJ's and what kind of music they like, what type of people they want to attend, and who they know. It's no great big seceret, just common sense, try using some next time you make a comment.
Wed Nov 1 9:55:49 2000

re negativity can all those who did nothing to ensure that a-classe djs are present at pride please get over it. and... the djs are good. A bit dubious about the sioux spears selection, but should she be playing? yes. she is actually quite a unique sequencer of dance music and can hold beats in time. We used her on the mix program on out fm (beat encounter) and found her fantastic. As for the rest: ben drayton is a polished professional; chip a sexy songsmith; gavan bright a breath of fresh air. If you are so hell bent on being negative, please find somewhere where you will be happy, and don't drag down the pride vibe - it is about being proud of our community, is it not, not just those whom we have personal links with. p.s. - if these djs do not play at real venues, where are these so called real venues, just so we know when we walk past.
Mike Kelly - Wed Nov 1 12:10:28 2000

milkbar is back! bringing you friday nights for the queerly outlandish at icebox. resident djs: stephen allkins, lexie bradfield, mike kelly; this week's guest: sharyn brand. this is the last week of free membership renewal for old milkbar members (so bring you old card and get the new keyring). free entry, happy hour and cocktails from 9pm; $10 after 11pm (or free for members)
Wed Nov 1 12:14:55 2000

CHIP is too hot!!! And he is playing at the Ice sleaze recovery at Bay 33.
Wed Nov 1 12:19:27 2000

Chip is f#%king brilliant. I obviously needed to state the obvious. (addressed to Nepotistic bastards - Fri Oct 27 20:07:17)
not pride or even chip - Wed Nov 1 12:42:21 2000

has everyone forgotten me?
lana turner - Wed Nov 1 12:46:11 2000

what is going on with the phoenix?
vic - Wed Nov 1 12:47:39 2000

vic - Wed Nov 1 12:47:39 2000. the sound system is a bit screwy, but other than that it is ok. great in the mornings as per...
Wed Nov 1 12:50:31 2000

Well done Mike Kelly! I've have heard and had a great time on the dancefloor to the tunes of Ben Drayton, Chip, & Gavin Bright, all three are unique in their style and keep the dancefloor interested. Their sets are not predictible and I don't think I've heard them play the same set of songs one after another like other DJ's. Sue Spears I haven't yet had the pleasure of listing to, but have only heard good reports. I think all in all the Pride DJ lineup is great, and a breath of fresh air - something the Sydney Gay scene could do with.
not pride or even Ben, Chip or Gavin - Wed Nov 1 13:22:10 2000

Funny how the bitchiness and slagging on this board is always in reference to the more commercial parties such as Mardi Gras, Sleaze, Frisky, Ice and Pride...and usually in reference to the main stream DJs, ie Ben, Chip, Stephen, Kate, Sveta, Sioux etc. So nice to be a part of the more underground scene where the slagging is much less of an occurrence, and people are much more genuine and friendly. I guess it just represents the type of people who frequent each event.
Liberace's Dcup - Wed Nov 1 13:39:42 2000

Liberace's D-Cup. You are talking through your arse. Obviously you have never been to Ice! Commercial music it is N*O*T!
Wed Nov 1 13:54:20 2000

Dcup - I think it has more to do wih the so-called Underground Scene being so much smaller an unsuccessful (in the gay community), and the fact that it mostly attracts straight punters (e.g., Swarm), who do not frequent this board.
Use some common sense! - Wed Nov 1 13:59:16 2000

Ice is so Commercial music you drip...
Wed Nov 1 14:11:49 2000

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yay! - Wed Nov 1 14:33:14 2000

Doe's anyone know if Hey Homo has lasers this time?
Wed Nov 1 14:59:21 2000

I think chip has poor DJ skills
This is my opioin - Wed Nov 1 16:04:08 2000

Ok, we've ripped apart the Sleaze & Pride Dj's, what's the next party we can start destroying before it gets off the ground. Let's be quick and do it before they release any details of the party, I mean we can't be expected to make sane rational educated comments.
Wed Nov 1 16:40:17 2000

Tim Spinks, Mark Murphy, Mandy Rollins, Bucked Naked and Trade commercial? Just coz they're all stars now doesn't make them commercial!
Get it Right! - Wed Nov 1 20:36:28 2000

Exactly what is the definition of "commercial"? That the person who made the track did so in the hope that it would be heard and appreciated by others? Why can't you accept that tastes are diverse and the best that can be hoped for is that everyone gets to enjoy what they enjoy. Don't let it bug you that the people in the next pavilion over are going off to something you loathe. It's so easy.
EC - Wed Nov 1 20:59:37 2000

Is Alex Taylor playing Homelands on December 2?
Thu Nov 2 9:44:11 2000

yes
Thu Nov 2 9:53:15 2000

tue oct 31, 23;44;35 2000 - yeah, good on ya. doofus.
Thu Nov 2 12:19:59 2000

My second time on this board and its still very, very nasty.
Thu Nov 2 12:24:11 2000

There will be a full colour laser at Hey Homo.
Thu Nov 2 14:34:39 2000

underground music is great. it quite often pushes commercial music forward, or makes it smarter; more developed. but surely it matters not whether a track is commercial or underground, so long as the listener appreciates it. everything has its time and place, correct?
m k - Thu Nov 2 15:18:30 2000

ice, hey homo etc definitely do play some styles of music that have become commercial, and others that always were, but they do some twisted stuff too. and their line-ups, well, at least ice's, are rarely boring.
Thu Nov 2 15:21:42 2000

Well thats not nice 'boring'. I'm sorry I've been to Ice three times now and each one I've left around 3.30am 'bored' ending up at dare I say it Arq, with get this the rest of the Ice punters. The sucess of a party isn't just styles of music.True,the music has to be at least good. If the production isn't to standard and your friends arn't there ....who wants to be there? not me!
Not happy Jan! - Thu Nov 2 16:50:06 2000
This is the opinion of the poster.

DJs can play both commercial and 'underground' tracks...but it does not and should not put a label on them. Parties, however, can be slotted into one of the above categories...as it's the whole make-up of a party, ie punters, djs, venue, theme, flyer, promoters, etc that create the style. MG, for example is very commercial, as well as ice, pride, acon, arq...look at their target audience, look at their sponsors, look at their advertising, look at their ticket prices, look at the message they are trying to get across!! Parties like bombed, kooky, homo eclectus and octopussy events are all genuine underground events. These parties for a start, do not have sponsors and are always on the cheap. Their target audience includes 'queer' minded people, ferals, underdogs, not muscle mary's. They encourage dress-up, they encourage people to be silly, they aim to always offer something different that has not previously been done. They try and put on shows to shock and push the boundaries. This is underground, and there are only a few promoters out there in the gay/lesbian/queer scene that are doing it.
said my peas - Thu Nov 2 17:26:52 2000

To - Is Alex Taylor playing Homelands on December 2? Thu Nov 2 9:44:11 2000 Yes he is see http://www.homelands.com.au
Thu Nov 2 18:05:22 2000

"Not Happy Jan" - you aren't making much sense. I would go to a party, and up getting bored and leave at 3.30am, maybe once, I doubt twice, but definitely not 3 times! How dumb are you? I have been to every Ice since March, they don't allow tickets to be sold on the door after 3am, and their crowd retention is the best of any party I have been to. Witness the last Ice in July which had 800 people from midnight until close, screaming for more. Perhaps you made a typo, and you ended up at ARQ at 6.30am, not 3.30am? I think I detect an insecure promoter for a 12 Nov party? Perhaps, "Not Happy Jus"? :)
Thu Nov 2 19:13:45 2000

I think that those who are stereotypical queens into Sat night tribal pop at ARQ would definitely be bored at Ice. I don't know if Ice promote themselves as being underground or commercial these days, and I don't really care. What I do like is that it is the only gay event by gay promoters playing "normal" dance music that I might hear in a straight club. I find the "stereotypical gay music" thrown down my throat by all the other major gay dance parties offensive. Just because I am gay doesn't mean I fall into the "girlie" category. Anyone who goes to a party like ICE when they have a camp circle of friends is unlikely to feel comfortable there, and is better off at ARQ with the rest of the twinks.
Uncle Arthur - Thu Nov 2 19:28:44 2000

Gay event by gay promoters...hanging on by a thread there aren't you? What about the crew....the cleaner and the venue owner...the licenseee...the. the the the...whatever. Enjoy the party because it's a good party.
Thu Nov 2 19:35:37 2000

Is "home" the club also responsible for "homelands"? Is homelands a straight party? Or is it meant to have the kind of mix like "hey homo"? wwww.homelands.com.au website looks amazing. Wouldn't mind checking homeleands out out if the crowd was OK. But it's so hard to work it all out. Is anyone going? Anyone know anything about who's putting it on?
Thu Nov 2 19:45:24 2000

One colour laser? Terrible lighting design - so far up that unless you are looking up at it all it is on the dancefolor is blinking washed colours. A sound system that cannot handle female vocals (which are seldom played at Home except for Hey Homo). No major acts, no international DJs. Ticket sales so disappointing they probably won't be opening the upstairs areas for long, if at all (again). The risk that the club will be closed early again due to the number of casualties. Cocktail music on the main floor until 1 or 2am. The Friday and Saturday night straight crowd knocking on the door to hear their regulars Alex and Kate. The only thing that kept me at Hey Homo after 4am when it was on Fridays was the lack of anywhere else to go. Even when the sound went off and they started playing Ministry CDs on a ghetto blaster! This is Home's 2nd Birthday and the night after Sleaze. What a poor option they are offering! Definitely the place to go when everything else is sold out.
Karma - This is the opinion of the poster - Thu Nov 2 20:37:33 2000

Home only has a 5am licence. Homelands is put on by Home and other promoters in conjunction. It is Straight, but it's about music not about sexuality!
Facts - Thu Nov 2 21:14:29 2000

Sioux Spears, So many of you slag her DJ ability off, but know nothing about her dj experince! Well let me educate you. 1) She was taught by one of sydneys most experinced DJs 2) In 1996 she played at Londons hottest venue "Heaven" The saturday night 1am - 4am shift every sat. (considering heaven nightclub takes up a whole block, I would call that a real nightclub, wouldnt you?) 3)Sleaze 94 95 97 she played at. 4)Mardi Gras 98 99 you guest it she played. (In fact 98 she played closing shift in the RHI and everyone wrote positive letters to the gay press singing the closing djs praises) 5)Pride 99 again she played! 6) over the past 12years sioux spears has also played at many venues,events & dance parties. Currently she plays every friday night at the phoenix (sirens on oxford) 9pm-2am Exchange hotel 34 oxford st darlinghurst.Many people both sydney & interstate comment how good the DJ is, Maybe you should listen to her play,she just may suprise you! With all this experince behind her why shouldn't she play at pride? Isn't it about the most experinced djs,the problem is when you are experinced you know everybody anyway!
Friend & Fan - Thu Nov 2 21:17:44 2000

Sioux Spears Did *Not* close the RHI for MG 98.That is a Lie.I'm Sure Warren Gluck looks nothing like Sioux Spears !
Thu Nov 2 21:48:13 2000

I think theres a nasty mis-information campaign going on about this Spears woman.Obviously someone is now trying to justify the cronyism selection that Pride has adopted.
Thu Nov 2 21:52:36 2000

Is it possible to start a positive - if even fleetingly so -moment? I hope so. Here goes: Naked Music Tour (Sleaze Ball night), John Digweed (NYE), The Amnesty Freedom party that was on 2 weeks ago (especially Biftek, Biz-E and Infusion). All good, correct?
Fri Nov 3 2:05:07 2000

RP2 @ Milkbar - - - - - Friday, 24 November - - - - - Stephen Allkins, Lexie Bradfield, Luke Leal - - - - - plus surprises.
Fri Nov 3 2:10:25 2000

"Thu Nov 2 19:13:45 2000" You are absolutley right what's it like being right all the time? fantastic i would think
jan - Fri Nov 3 9:47:57 2000

I thought both Sasha and Digweed were playing NYE but where and can i get tickets yet?????
The Doctor - Fri Nov 3 10:13:36 2000

Sasha is playing at bondi, and Digweed at homebush. Why? Who knows? Kinda really bites though, for those who love them both and have seen neither (unfortunately). They are playing together in Melbourne at Docklands (i think it is called), if you are interested.
mike - Fri Nov 3 10:59:08 2000

That's not so good then how can you be at Bondi with the English tourists and at Homebush with the Westies?????
The Doctor - Fri Nov 3 11:22:56 2000

homebush is my choice. better venue, only partygoers from that party, a fairly informed (musically) crowd, so it will be about the music, moreso, i would gather, than bondi. both will be great, and pete tong is doing bondi as well. hmmmm. fox studios - homebush - bondi......... sounds like an expensive taxi night, no?
mike - Fri Nov 3 13:04:59 2000

What is the mis-information campaign? She closed in the Hordern in 96.
Fri Nov 3 13:55:00 2000

Hehehehehehehee, but have you seen the line up at FOX????
The Doctor - Fri Nov 3 13:59:12 2000

No i tried mentioning the Naked Tour on this page and have already had my wrists slapped. Positivity on this page? That would be 1998.
Fri Nov 3 14:00:44 2000

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Fri Nov 3 14:18:38 2000

why all the bullshit, just f@#@@##@ing enjoy yourself and sometimes while you are dancing your butt off, probably to the music of which the very same dj"s you are slagging off, just consider the long hard slog and effort they have put into making your New Years Eve parties.
over the bitching - Fri Nov 3 15:42:42 2000

What is the mis-information campaign? She closed in the Hordern in 96. Fri Nov 3 13:55:00 2000 --------*Wrong* again - Lexi Bradfield Closed the Hordern for MG in 1996 ! Dont try and post bullshit on here -- i have a list of all the DJ's that have played each hall since the mid 80's
Sat Nov 4 1:14:34 2000

I do apologise I made a mistake sioux spears played the closing shift in the horden at MG 98 (still a major hall)Iam not trying to justify Prides dj selection at all, I'm just trying to justify the fact that sioux is a very experinced dj & a good choice to play at pride,does it really matter who she knows or what Committe shes on, she has the experince and thats what counts!
Friend & Fan - Sat Nov 4 5:36:59 2000

Sat Nov 4 1:14:34 2000 - Can you email it to me and I will post it on Pinkboard.
panther - Sat Nov 4 9:37:37 2000

Sat Nov 41:14:34 2000-A list since the mid 80's? Sounds like you have nothing better to do with your life.
still bored - Sat Nov 4 12:27:31 2000

Re homes licence - I think you should get your facts right. Home has a 24 hr Nightclub licence. FACT! To "Karma", you obvoiulsy havent been to home lately. Increased sound on all floors, re-configuration of lighting rig on the main dance floor, 2m x 2m custom mirrorballs - 1 for Sublime, 1 for home - purchased not hired. Creation of "The Lounge" area. Paramedics on site every time the club opens with a dedicated first aid room - not the staff area as at ARQ. Female vocals through the sound system every Saturady night courtesy Jules and Alex. And finally up to 6,000 people coming through every weekend going off, including a section of the gay community. Next time do some research before posting.
Sat Nov 4 20:10:30 2000

to the pr person from home re your above posting -i would suggest you do the promoting for your club in a nice and friendly way and not be so confrontational, your message will get across much better.
Sat Nov 4 22:10:50 2000
This is the opinion of the poster.

Well, just home from Paul Oakenfold and Chicane. Awesome Prodominately Straight but very friendly crowd. all I can say is a Fabulous night!
Sun Nov 5 11:50:15 2000

Yes. Yes. Yes. Re homes licence - I think you should get your facts right. Home has a 24 hr Nightclub licence. FACT! To "Karma", you obvoiulsy havent been to home lately. Increased sound on all floors, re-configuration of lighting rig on the main dance floor, 2m x 2m custom mirrorballs - 1 for Sublime, 1 for home - purchased not hired. Creation of "The Lounge" area. Paramedics on site every time the club opens with a dedicated first aid room - not the staff area as at ARQ. Female vocals through the sound system every Saturady night courtesy Jules and Alex. And finally up to 6,000 people coming through every weekend going off, including a section of the gay community. Next time do some research before posting. Sat Nov 4 20:10:30 2000
need we say more? think not. - Sun Nov 5 14:14:10 2000

home sydney is not about the look - its about music, sound and whatever you choose to take.
Everyone is welcome. - Sun Nov 5 14:20:22 2000

Apparently Homelands has been cancelled. Not sure of the details yet but if it is I want my $100 back.
BND - Sun Nov 5 15:44:28 2000

Apparently you're wrong BND.
Sun Nov 5 16:41:45 2000

This graffitti wall is toooooooooooooo big - and its wall #13 - time we moved on Panther !
Sun Nov 5 17:00:04 2000

BND - correct, check for press releases this week...... you will be able to get a refund from the point of purchase. It hasent been cancelled more postponed till 2001. The papers will have the details this week.
Sun Nov 5 17:10:36 2000

Homelands is cancelled - Fact - Check the Press
Sun Nov 5 19:21:21 2000

I SO Agree with we need another wall. This one takes half an hour to load!
Sun Nov 5 21:58:26 2000

Public Enemy pulled out and it started snowballing from there. I dont give a rats ass for them, but I'm bummed out about Peace Division & Green Velvet not coming :(
Mr Panties (feelin sad) - Sun Nov 5 22:58:03 2000

we want a new wall
Mon Nov 6 10:09:00 2000
20 repeats removed. There is an email address at the top of the page if you wish to address your comments to me personally. - Panther

how did you do that?
Mon Nov 6 10:14:47 2000

Dear Pride Board, for the 3rd space please let it be another Hall and not a tent and please can you use current/popular DJ's for it. Although not pleased with DJ list we all have at some time or other pulled favours in our personal and professional lives which is obviously what Sue has done. Party should be called a Disco cause I remember most of the DJ's and whilst my dance music tastes have changed/moved on ( prefer Hi-Nrg) these guys have stayed in a time warp , they still have their following and I wont bag them as its each to his own but Pride I would suggest the 3rd Space be a decent sized Hall and put in current DJ favourites playing current popular dance music and then no-one can complain as they will have a choice of Halls. Personally Tents just dont work for me. A suggestion anyhow.
M.P. - Mon Nov 6 11:44:55 2000

Totally agree M.P. - those DJ's were prominent in the 80's and my "personal" opinion is they have not moved with the times, they have their fans, but the majority of party goers are used to the current dance music being played. Pride can re-deem themselves by having the 3rd Hall ( and please not a tent ) and using current DJ favourites around town and then let the party goers speak with their feet. Failing them giving us a 3rd Hall does anyone know of an alternative Party yet ? also agree re Wharf 8. I know I would support a Gay Party there. Love Frisky but its just too small for my taste whereas Wharf 8 just that little bit bigger you can actually move on the dance floor. Lets see if Pride takes notice of the majority of posts complaining about the DJ selection.
Johno - Mon Nov 6 12:00:12 2000

Pride rarely uses mainstream DJ's. Occasionally they will throw in a big commecial name, but not very often. They tend to use DJ's with a distinctive sound and a smaller, but very devoted fan base. This is all very good and well, but it doesn't keep the greater public that does like your run of the mill dance music happy. Slag off commercial music all you want, but the general gay public have a greater love for it. That is why pride's numbers decrease, and their parties are smaller. They say they have chosen not to use all the halls, so as to keep the party more intimate and exclusive, but the truth is, they don't cater for a wide variety of the gay community, and therefore could not sell enough tickets if they used all the halls. Their DJ selection this year is great, but if they want a sell out party, they also need to incorporate a hall for the majority who wants to hear commercial pop music, as asked for by previous posters. The Pride committee really needs to wake up. This is my opinion, and I'm sure that many people who don't like commercial music and prefer different grooves (and I know there are lots of you) are going to slag me off, but I also know that many, many, many people agree with me.
Mon Nov 6 12:53:20 2000

Thank you Thank you Thank you........ I thought exactly the same as the last 3 posters but wasn't game to post anything. Have been doing the parties since mid 80's and my choice of music has moved with the times and the last poster is right, the majority do enjoy mainstream/commercial music because why Pride ? - thats what we hear on Wild FM/Free FM and at Clubs. I'm not knocking the DJ's chosen but last time I heard them at a major Party was early 90's. Just as MG as done with the RHI over the last few Parties they have chosen popular music with popular DJ's. Surely you remember the crush to get into the hot stinking RHI ????????? thats because it was playing mainstream dance. Pride you can redeem yourselves by announcing your 3rd Hall (not tent) now with popular DJ's and a decent sized Hall please.
Steve B - Mon Nov 6 13:03:28 2000

To the Home person who posted. I was at Home last week and suffered terrible sound (female vocals distorting beyond belief), lighting as described in that posting, and you still have not explained how you are gong to keep it gay (it is called "Hey H*O*M*O", so to use the "It's about the music and everyone is welcome" line is a cop-out. You conveniently did not address why Home is putting so little effort into "Hey Homo" on its 2nd Birthday and such an important night in the gay calendar.
Karma - Mon Nov 6 13:05:53 2000

Agree Steve B and post Nov 6. Sue and Ben both from 80's dance scene, Mark left and has come back so not sure what he is like ? Ben has his following but his slow music makes me wanna sit down.........Yes we do have to have different styles but I think Sue or whoever did really choose the DJ's have ignored what people are dancing to today.. Pity. I can remember how popular RHI has become, in fact toooooo popular thats its uncomfortable, too squashy, too hot but the music was 10/10. My preference is for HiNRG music, so can anyone enlighten me on the which Hall I should be in for Pride ? or should I be looking for an alternative. Shame really as the it was MG/Sleaze that lost the plot a few years back but now have picked themselves up and now Pride losing it.
Gene - Mon Nov 6 13:13:04 2000

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Mon Nov 6 13:31:23 2000

Looks like we've found the space for No Holes Barred 3. Interested perverts should phone their postal address details to Tom on 0416 392 361 and leave it on his voicemail. As usual, the event details will not be advertised at all - so being on the mailing list is the only way of finding out all about it. Cheers to all those DJ's, performers and deviants who made the first two parties so memorable. Stay twisted.
Octopussy - Mon Nov 6 15:01:58 2000

I went to the second of the new series of Bombed parties on Friday night, and had the best dance I've had in many a month. I'd never heard Viva L'Amour DJ before, and was most impressed ... until Lanny K came on at midnight (just as something else was coming on!) and played some of the filthiest groin-beats I've heard in a club. Brilliant! But ... where was the crowd? Those that were there obviously had a great time, but considering the amount of bitching on this board about substandard parties/dj's that cant't mix/inflated ticket prices then you'd imagine that there would be a posse of pinkboard regulars beating Bombed's door down to get three great underground DJ's for just ten bucks. Mark Murphy is to be congratulated and encouraged for constantly taking the risk of putting on these parties, but he could be forgiven for thinking he's wasting his time on a queer scene that can't be bothered getting off the strip or out of the big parties to support a cheap, friendly, independant alternative. Mark doesn't know I'm writing this and yes, it's definitely the opinion of the poster. I hope to see at least some of you at the next one on December the 1st.
Craig - Mon Nov 6 15:29:09 2000

Karma - It is home's 2nd birthday on Saturday, not Hey Homo's 2nd birthday. Part of the extra production that will be in place for the Saturday night will be kept over for the Sunday night. The post "all are welcome" is not from me, however that does apply to Friday and Saturday nights. Re keeping it gay, the door staff know who should be in and who should be out, I think you will find some sort of Gay influence on the door on Sunday night. Little effort into Hey homo....hmmm.... not sure what you mean here, the party is happening, there is a great DJ line up, advertising is out and has been for a few weeks, extra equipment will be in place, at least 2 x shows - little effort..??? Please!! And finally if you do think that the sound and lighting is sooo bad why dont you email the Club AV Manager - info@bigbeat.com.au - and make it attention Joe Caruso.
Cheers! - Mon Nov 6 16:24:25 2000

The Skin Parties at Headquarters are proving very popular.
Mon Nov 6 16:33:18 2000

Well I have to SaY .. I was a bit skeptical about Bombed on Friday night the Blackmarket as a venue is dirty and should have been more nasty boys and evil girls their.. The music was great the crowd was cool what was there not enough though.. ( I hope it was quiet because of Sleaze next weekend.. ) I am going to the next one I believe is the 1.12.00 10pm - 4am $10 bargin price and off the bloddy strip and without the attitude... Paul Okenfold and Chicane went off I found some other party animals who go to Bombed and rocked the night away had my shirt off and felt totally comfortable with the predominatly laddish type crowd with a heap of cool clubbers for good measure. F***g top night ..... Right one Brother is all I can say... !!!
Cubb - Mon Nov 6 16:41:44 2000

To - M.P. - Mon Nov 6 11:44:55 2000 ,Johno - Mon Nov 6 12:00:12 2000 ,Steve B - Mon Nov 6 13:03:28 2000 - the only people who seem to be living in the past seem to be you three! If three narrow minded people like you have the ability to progress to different music styles, then don't you think that people who are actually in the Industry might be able to as well? Stop living in the past and give them (most of whom weren't DJing in the '80's) and Pride a go! People only get stuck in the past because others like you have sterotypical ideas. You would think that coming from a community which is riddled with labels and negative sterotypes, that we would be more open minded and open to change, apprently not, this could quite possibly be one of the most Cenophobic places I've ever heard about or seen.
Cenophobia or Centophobia- Fear of new things or ideas. - Mon Nov 6 18:19:11 2000

why is it that every time someone's drugs don't work they blame the bad night had on the venue and/or DJ?
unique... - Mon Nov 6 18:56:05 2000

Cenophobia: I couldnt have put it better myself
Mr Panties (I suffer from Arachnophobia) - Mon Nov 6 20:58:12 2000

NYE? Try Mobile Home at Bondi Beach. While it will be predominanly straight, it'll be a cool crowd and I know of a few gay boys who are going.
Mon Nov 6 21:22:55 2000

when is the next skin party at headquarters?
pigboy - Mon Nov 6 23:40:01 2000

Dear Cenophobia, you have it wrong darls. Quite a few of those NYE DJ's were around late 80's as I remember the Garage Parties and Ben Drayton played. Sue ( was it Siousxe ) Spears and Madge Alsop also from that period. Its also not just those 3 who are complaining but obviously your are either a friend of theirs or on the Pride Board. Actually all they were pointing out and I agree, is for a mainstream party there were no current mainstream DJ's. Certainly they are still DJ'ing but can't remember them at any MG/Sleaze/ARq/Home parties of late. Mark may have played one MG/Sleaze recently. Ben plays smaller parties where he is a hit, haven't heard about Sue for years. So Cenophobia can you guarantee they will be playing to what the majority of dance goers like ? This is my personal view, I would never bag a DJ , I would just prefer a choice and having "older" DJ's in one Hall is fine, but the other Hall should be catering for current dance music and that is what people are objecting too. Yes some are making cvnt comments, in general most are just querying why no mainstream DJ's picked. As a previous poster pointed out, MG/Sleaze have moved people like Sveta into the Hordern as she is popular, and moved the mainstream dance into the RHI and it is packed..........too packed for my liking but the music/ atmosphere in the RHI of late has been 10/10. So if Pride are thinking of a 3rd Hall and please not a tent, then they have the chance to offer 3 different types of DJ's/ music for people to choose from.
Grant - Tue Nov 7 8:59:22 2000

Here Here Grant, totally agree. When there is more than one Hall then different types of dance music has to be offered, then there can be no complaining. I too went to Garage parties and though DJ's like Ben play too slow for my taste, I wont be bagging the DJ's but the current line doesnt sound like I am going to get a Hall with HInrg music ? Correct me if I'm wrong so I know which Hall to hang around in.
Thanks - Tue Nov 7 9:47:01 2000

So Mephisto didn't have an official stand on this yesterday.. Is "Grunt" officially off. Are we getting our money back....??? Does anyone know ..???
Cubb - Tue Nov 7 11:10:07 2000

Re: Grunt. You can get your money back if you go back to the outlet at which you bought your ticket. It sounds like it's off.
JGT - Tue Nov 7 11:19:18 2000

To - Grant - Tue Nov 7 8:59:22 2000 & Thanks - Tue Nov 7 9:47:01 2000 - are you sure that it's not you two who are stuck in the past, you seem to be clinging on this Hinrg music, why? get over it and keep up with the times. If that's what you're looking for then may I suggest Brisbane, the Gold Coast or maybe you'd do better out in Parramatta.
Cenophobia or Centophobia- Fear of new things or ideas - Tue Nov 7 11:24:09 2000

Disagree with you Cenophobia and agree with the others you commented on. If you read their posts carefully, they were not slagging the DJ's like other posts but did offer up a suggestion to Pride. You are also wrong re some of them being from the 80's - Ben, Mark and Sue ( if she was Siouxse Spears ) were all from that era. No problem with that but they cater to smaller parties where they are loved, but in a big Party ? well we'll see if Pride does open a 3rd Hall and if they dont then we'll see how the tickets sell. Please read posts carefully. These people were being giving constructive criticism. You should be having a go at the ones who slag off about a DJ or better still the Pride Board as to why/how this came about. Every DJ born will have their followers and those that hate their style of music but they shouldnt attack the DJ's. Use your feet and move to another Hall or buy a ticket to an alternative Party. Hopefully Pride will swallow their Pride and do something. Agree with other post re how RHI has been of late - packed because that is the majority of party goers fave music. I have only seen ads for these DJ's at small parties/venues so you wonder will they be able to accommodate a large party group like NYE ?
? - Tue Nov 7 12:04:48 2000

Yeeeeee Haaaaaa - according to Ticketek, no tickets left for Sale for Sleaze..............
Tue Nov 7 12:24:47 2000

Cenophobia or Centophobia- Fear of new things or ideas - Tue Nov 7 11:24:09 2000 ---------- Now hang on just a sec !!!!! How **Dare** you **tell** someone that they MUsT move with the times.If they want to sit in the 80's or 90's and enjoy HiNRG/Handbag music then that is their decision.And i agree that there is still a market for this style at dance parties and it should be catered for in a hall of some description.Maybe not the biggest hall, but a hall nonetheless.
WankerPhobia - The fear of not looking kool !!!!! - Tue Nov 7 12:36:49 2000

Not everyone wants to look hip and cool and know all the words to all the current crap that gets played in all the hip clubs in town.
Some people can still have fun to the things that we grew up with and who dares should say that we have to let go of those good old days.
No body has that right.
Tue Nov 7 12:59:12 2000

Read the posts slowly Cenowhatever.....you got it wrong. Other posts you picked on were being constructive not bitching about DJ's. Quite a few of the NYE DJ's are from the late 80's , please check before you wank off. I have only heard of them playing small parties and I too am wondering if they will cut it at a big bash. I too like hinrg/fast/techno whatever its called today ( I like Alex Taylor,Brent Nicholls ) styles so can anyone enlighten me if any of the DJ's play this style ? Would help in making my decision on whether to buy a ticket.
160bpm - Tue Nov 7 13:58:41 2000

Could someone let me know - I prefer dance music with fast beat whether its called hi-nrg/commercial/techno. I like DJ's like Alex Taylor/Sveta. Do any of the NYE DJ's play this style. Heard Ben Drayton play and not into that slower funky whatever its called but realise he has his faithful following. Never heard any of the others play before. Appreciate your advice.
Jules - Tue Nov 7 16:40:09 2000

Grunt is apparently now on at GAS, instead of the previous venue- Blackmarket ?
Devil's Felch - Tue Nov 7 17:35:59 2000

Who is on the party committee at Sydney Leather Pride? For April 2001 Can someone tell me
Tue Nov 7 19:14:09 2000

there was an advertisement in star observer and capital Q about 2-3 weeks ago asking for expressions of interest for the position of party producer for Inquisition next year.If you find that add in the press you will find how to contact leather pride.
Tue Nov 7 19:57:24 2000

ok so its time for another Frisky party this sunday....so who's up for another round of "Perfect Day" from JoJo ? Word has it that a RHI Sleaze DJ has caught on to the whole humour of this topic and is gonna play it at Sleaze in the RHI just for a stir !!!
Cant Wait ! LOL - Tue Nov 7 21:42:35 2000

Its just a perfect day
I'm glad i spent it with you
On such a perfect day
You just keep me hanging on
You just keep me hanging on
Reep reep reep
Reep what you sew !
Tue Nov 7 23:27:51 2000

good to see chip has a fan I am not deaf or mute - Tue Oct 31 15:04:09 2000 ------------ yes,he bought one at KMart for $39.95
It has 3 settings and swivel propellers
Tue Nov 7 23:30:32 2000

i think chip has plenty of fans. he plays well. he mixes his way, and not in the manner of so many others. bad? good? your choice to make, but please try listening outside of your normal frame of reasoning. djs looking forward tend to confuse others. not a dig.
a fan - not from k-mart - Wed Nov 8 0:09:37 2000

stephen allkins, lexie bradfield, mike kelly @ milkbar guest dj mandy rollins - - - - - friday 10 november lighting by sam jennings
Wed Nov 8 0:38:49 2000

"Cant Wait ! LOL - Tue Nov 7 21:42:35 2000 " I guess you're talking about jake kibly. doesnt really suprise me.... he never plays any 'original' records, just copies what other dj's are doing.
michael jackson/ce ce peniston bootleg - Wed Nov 8 0:53:35 2000

michael jackson/ce ce peniston bootleg - Wed Nov 8 0:53:35 2000 ----- and jake Kilby is playing at Sleaze Ball and you maybe are NoT !
need i say more ? - Wed Nov 8 1:02:13 2000

Letter to - The President Pride Centre Sydney, Hutchison Street, Surry Hills.
Dear Sir/Madam,
Let me express my Disgust at the way in which the DJ's have been selected for your NYE party. It has come to my attention that Sioux Spears is on either the board,or party committee or holds some sort of position at Pride. This in any normal organisation would disqualify one from being available to be considered for a DJ position due to a conflict of Interest. This is the second year in a row that a person with deep committee or board involvement has been allocated a DJ position at your NYE party,last year it was Kate Munroe.I find it totally and utterley unethical and your association should be ashamed of itself for showing such favouritism.My understanding with Sioux Spears is that not only was she on either board or committee at Pride but she had a major role in actually being one of the selectors for the DJ's at the party. This is so wrong !!!!
How can your assocation ever gain the respect of the DJ's that work this city when such nonsense keeps going on down at Hutchison Street ? I am not a DJ - however,one of my best friends (an ex flatmate) is.When i spoke to him/her yesterday he/her told me that Prides name is mud amounst the DJ fraternity in Sydney after this selection (and also taking into account Kate Munroe from last years party). You guys need to clean your act up and show some sort of morals.I'm ashamed that a gay and lesbian association that does such good things for this community could be so short sighted and show such appauling favouritism.Obviously the good old fashioned ethic of never getting involved when you have a conflict of interest does not carry any weight at Pride these days. Expect more letters - i've got the word around town about this issue to many people and the feeling is the same with everyone i spoke to.This issue will also be alerted to the gay press.
This is NoT a personal attack on Sioux Spears.I am sure she is a adequate DJ.Its the process that stinks and needs to be addressed.Pride as a whole needs to publically apologise to the G&L public for this debacle - and particulary needs to apologise to the Sydney G&L DJ's.
I await your reply.Please email me at jasonboyd2000@yahoo.com.au
Yours Faithfully
Jason Boyd - Wed Nov 8 2:14:56 2000

Another letter to To Pride Centre---- For the attention of the President. To Whom this may concern - A mate of mine was talking to me yesterday and told me about the DJ line up that Pride will be presenting at its annual new years eve party. I have no idea what each individual DJ plays or who they are.I'm not a clubbing person at all but i do like to attend the major fund raiser parties each year (MardiGras,Sleaze,Hand In Hand,Pride NYE).I do this cause I think its my way of contributing to worthy Gay &Lesbian causes by paying my admission. I am a great believer in seeing that fair and just process is a highly held attribute amounst our Gay and Lesbian groups. I am disappointed to here about the lack of this attribute shown in the selection of the DJ called Siuox Speers. I cannot agree with a person who has a major interst in a place like Pride on some committee level having the audacity to think that they can be allowed to DJ at a public tendered for event. Coming from the legal profession I hold the adage of always making sure that one never has a conflict of interest in the highest of esteem. I thought that adage went without saying for all levels of life.Regretably Pride it seems has no grasp whatsoever of this concept. This is my letter of protest. I am currently re-considering my position as to whether I shall attend your function on New Years Eve.Whether or not I attend will be decided upon after I see how you reply to this letter.
Melanie Black - Wed Nov 8 2:17:32 2000

more letters to come tomorrow
Wed Nov 8 2:20:25 2000

Is this the party wall, or the Party Apparatchik wall? Get a life - fall on your own Spears.
Wastrel & Strumpet - Wed Nov 8 8:26:00 2000

F... off Wastrel and Strumpet. It is their point of view and they have every right to complain. I totally agree with them. Not knocking any of the DJ's personally but they have only catered to smaller parties for years now and one wonders how they will cope in Halls the size of the Hordern. You have had your say in plenty of previous posts W&S as obviously those subjects are dear to your heart? This obviously is not so shut up/f... off/ and wait for a topic you are more interested in. Vile/acid/sad queens like you should learn when to keep their trap shut. Go for it boys and girls, Pride does deserve it.
Nicky - Wed Nov 8 8:40:03 2000

Yah Nicky and letter writers but dont worry , I would be very surprised if anything is done. They may add the 3rd hall to balance out the music styles but they will be sitting up at Pride with a "how dare they" attitude. Jobs for the mates can backfire sometimes and this has. If nothing is done, its easy. Use your $ and buy tickets for an alternative Party. If NYE doesn't get its numbers and is a failure, then all your posters will be proven correct. If its a sellout and success , then we have to shut up and accept we were wrong. Does anyone know what other NYE parties are on ? always went to Showgrounds as love the bigger Halls so hopefully Wharf 8 or similiar sized venues will have a party ? So if you really feel deeply about what has happened at Pride, do something about it and spend your $'s elsewhere.
Love & Kisses - Wed Nov 8 9:23:22 2000

Thank you Nicky,exactly my thoughts.Nobody is blaming the DJ's selected,they are innocent bystanders in a vile and corrupt process (except Spears).As such I too am gonna write to Pride and here is my letter*********The President, Sydney Gay and Lesbian Pride Centre--- Dear sir/Madam, Let me express my outrage at the favouritism shown at the selection of a person who holds some form of office at pride to a DJ position at your New years event.Sue Spears has no right playing at this party if she has any organisational involvement at Pride. The issues of conflict of interst are at their utmost here. Pride as a whole should be embarrassed that such a decision has been made. "Jobs for the boys" is such an ugly and devious thing. I intend on joining Pride and making a very big issue of this at the first available AGM that i can attend. Yours Faithfully,
Becky (surname withheld) - but Pride Will get my surname on the letter - Wed Nov 8 9:26:05 2000

Love and Kisses - Nice post however you forget how shallow and fickle the G&L community is.There are way too many self centred drug F*ucked in the head boys and girls who dont care too hoots about the principles (or lack thereof) that Pride is applying in its DJ selection policy.Unfortunately the party will be a success regardless of how many protest they get from a rogue minority like us.But I for one feel better that i will be speaking my mind in **writing** direct to Pride and if it makes them feel even remotely unfortable then I feel our efforts are time well spent
Becky - Wed Nov 8 9:33:59 2000

re last post / the word unfortable = uncomfortable.Love and Kisses,i hope you are gonna write as well ? All correspondance goes to Pride Centre,PO Box 7,Darlinghurst,NSW,2010
Becky - Wed Nov 8 9:38:56 2000

What is it about the Sydney gay community?Are you all as negative & whinning as you sound on this board?It would appear this way. Friends and I were planning a trip over for Mardi Gra next year but don't know if we can be bothered,are all the attitudes more or less the same?Someone enlighten me.
disappointed... - Wed Nov 8 9:49:32 2000

disappointed - im sure it will be a great party its just the organisation putting on the party is showing very bad form by choosing a DJ "in house" when the submissions called for were by public tenure.And this in principle,is (in this country) a very wrong thing to do.
Wed Nov 8 10:05:42 2000

Disappointed - Pride and Mardi Gras are 2 different boards. Come on over for Mardi Gras you will be blown away. Besides luvvie can you show me anything in this world that is accepted 100% of the time. As your not living here you unfortunately dont know the full story. Thanks Becky will post letter. I just hope that there will be a range of alternative parties for us to choose from.
NIcky - Wed Nov 8 10:17:40 2000

actually, I am playing !
michael jackson/ce ce peniston bootleg - Wed Nov 8 11:13:34 2000

I have been reading all of the pedantic pissing and moanings of paltry professionals on the pinkboard re Pride. Would you be happier if Sioux Spears quit her orgeanising role (whatever she does on the committee???) and just played records. Would you be pleased then? Would you be pleased if she didn't play records, and no, ofcourse not. Because then you could neither continue to bore me further with your constant complaining, nor could you play yourselves. And what a loss of a positive vibe that would be (LOL). If you need to whinge, maybe there should be a whole graffiti board just titled "50 reasons why I like to whinge at any moment". You are going to do nothing to change Pride, so get over it. Now, is there a false cynic in me, or could some of these scare campaigns have been put forward by other promoters on NYE whom have no gripe with the djs, hence why they remeain anonymous. Y'know what? No, quite clearly you don't.
going to pride to dance and have fun - Wed Nov 8 11:14:17 2000

michael jackson/ce ce peniston bootleg - Wed Nov 8 11:13:34 2000 ---- then reveal yourself you wanker instead of defaming Jake and not having the guts to stand by your convictions
WAnkER - Wed Nov 8 11:19:46 2000

going to pride to dance and have fun - Wed Nov 8 11:14:17 2000 I am going to Pride and I'll have fun too,but it doesnt take away from the fact that the whole process smells like a fish left out in the sun for a few days.Some of us do have "principles" and like to see others also have the same quality.There is nothing wrong in pointing out a bad apple when you see one.
Wed Nov 8 11:27:33 2000

It wouldn't be so bad to point out the bad apple if occassionally a good one was plucked from the tree...!!Stop moaning and groaning and move on!!There should be a seperate wall called'101 reasons to hate a DJ'....i'm sure poor panther would be refreshing the pages on a daily basis.
New topic please! - Wed Nov 8 12:02:38 2000

We dont hate the DJ - Sue Spears is a lovely girl and a good DJ.Its simply unethical to be selected to play when you are part of the selection process of a party where public expressions of interst are called for.
its that simple ! - Wed Nov 8 12:43:50 2000

WankerPhobia - The fear of not looking kool !!!!! - Tue Nov 7 12:36:49 2000 - My my there are some simple people out there aren't there? you're now attacking someone for telling people not to live in the past, when the whole arguement was that you were saying that Pride was living in the past, but it's now OK to live in the past because that's where you want to be. Get some continuity in your argument!
Wed Nov 8 12:51:37 2000

Dear Going to Pride to dance.... and its that simple..... other posters have their opinion, you have yours. Its that simple - of course it is when Sue is your friend. What has happened IS wrong and these people have right to vent their anger.
Justice - Wed Nov 8 13:29:21 2000

This page is getting more obnocious by the minute.
Wed Nov 8 13:49:14 2000

Oh for F*cks sake shutup you whining people!! Go to the damn party if you wanna have a fun time. If you wanna go somewhere else then go there!!! As long as the DJ's play good music and the people have some fun. Oh yes it's the principles of it all isn't it - haven't you got anything better to do? Some people disagree with the principle of homosexuality so why don't you turn straight!? By the way you're probably like the only 5 people in the city who give a stuff. The rest of us just wanna have fun. I have no idea how or why Spears was picked and unless you were there you probably don't know the full story either. Besides there is more than 1 DJ and 1 hall at the party so it gives other DJ's a chance......... if you feel so strongly still then please go to another party. If Spears isn't up to the task Im sure she wouldn't be there.
MoveON! - Wed Nov 8 13:56:41 2000

MoveON! --- you just dont get it do you ? It has *NoTHiNG* (i wish i could have typed that word in bold) to do with sue spears.The argument is with Pride and why they have made this awful error of judgement.Nobody is saying the party is shit,nobody is saying sue is a bad DJ,nobody is saying its a bad DJ line up.What is being said is that the selection process was completely shoddy and lacked any code of ethics.Some people do care about principles,some dont.If you dont have principles then dont slag and knock somebody else becuse they do.This board has been set up to "Debate" Gay and Lesbian issues.This is the "appropriate" place to debate the issue.If you dont want to debate the issue then fine - dont say anything at all.
Panther,what do you think ?
speaking my mind in a constructive way - Wed Nov 8 14:22:49 2000

and here is another letter going to pride - To whom this may concern, Let me say that when I heard the DJ line up for your upcoming Pride New Years party I was pleasantly surprised. My initial reaction was that it was quite a fair line up and I went about telling my friends who were all equally impressed.Then I had the misfortune of telling one other freind who retorted back to me that one of the selected DJ's (Sue Spears) holds a position at Pride on either its board or some other position.I also have been lead to believe this person had a large influence in the final make up of the DJ selection.This I know for fact as I double checked my source by asking one of the selected DJ's for your party who is a friend of mine.This DJ told me that Sue Spears rang him/her to confirm his/her placing as a DJ for the party. Your business ethics are a disgrace. You call for expressions of interest by public tender and then you pick "in house". I'm sorry,but you just lost my confidence altogether. Sue Spears must immediately resign any position she holds at Pride or elect not to do the DJ job on 31 December.One or the other. Your centre needs to show that a fair and equal process is carried out whenever you ask for people to apply to you for such jobs as DJ's.If not you will lose the confidence of the Gay and Lesbian community and every DJ who participates in said community.
Mandy Hamlyn,Newtown - Wed Nov 8 14:28:55 2000

Qantas has a policy that you must promote and use your "in house" talent/staff before you can start recruiting outside. Does this mean that you can't trust or fly Qantas because they have the good sense of looking inwards before they look outward. The best DJ's were choosen on merit of the tape they submitted, if Sue's tape wasn't up to scratch I'm sure she wouldn't there. So let it go, relax, take deep breaths, and enjoy yourself.
Wed Nov 8 14:51:10 2000

But she chose herself ! Does the term "conflict of interst" maen anything ?
Wed Nov 8 15:05:19 2000

The above posting is fantastic!!Couldn't have said it better!!Mandy Hamlyn...so the girl called to confirm her placing as a DJ...is this not normal procedure? Are DJ's to assume they need not confirm wether or not they have accepted the job?Dahh..... lets put this into perspective eh kids?Its a dance party not an election to parliament.
Hilarious! - Wed Nov 8 15:07:02 2000

Re the Qantas quote```If i am a member of parliament and I am in charge of say....the mining sector,I am not allowed to own mining stocks.It a ******Conflict Of Interest*********. Using another example that was used on an earlier posting.If I am Glenn Horder and in charge of the DJ selection for Mardi Gras would it be politically correct to choose myself to play at MG ? If i was Dot Dingle (hand In Hand Party producer) should I choose myself to play at Hand In Hand ? No,No,and No - I am Sue Spears and have major influence on the DJ selection for Pride.Should I choose myself to play at this party - again the answer is NO.Fair process has not been done here.
Wed Nov 8 15:10:56 2000

Leave Sioux Spears and the selected Pride DJ's alone. These DJ's don't get the opportunity to play at these large dance parties that often.

Besides, the Pride DJ selection was based on unpopularity. Apparantly, popular DJ's were not wanted!
It pays to be a loser - Wed Nov 8 17:08:01 2000

How much did you get paid for that comment ? you loser.
Wed Nov 8 17:22:54 2000

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kookykids@hotmail.com - Wed Nov 8 17:23:19 2000

I'm not really sure what the Pride Centre is so 'proud' of anyway, so it isn't surprising to me that they do 'proud' so badly . . . But I'll give them one thing- they are consistent.
Devil's Felch - Wed Nov 8 17:25:11 2000

No, you're right it wasn't a popularity contest. It was a selection process, and those choosen had submitted the best tapes on the day. Your ego must be hurting because you didn't get picked.
Wed Nov 8 17:27:10 2000

G*R*U*N*T is taking place this Sat nt...and has been relocated to G A S nightclub...was at Blackmarket. Thank goodness for the change in venue...now I can enjoy my night ;-)
Wed Nov 8 18:33:59 2000

No, you're right it wasn't a popularity contest. It was a selection process, Wed Nov 8 17:27:10 2000
A selection process maybe - but one filled with corruption,bias,favouritism and no ethical standards whatsoever
I wouldnt care if Sioux Spears was the best DJ in the world (Personally i think she's great) but you cant hold office in a community based organization and simply choose yourself to DJ an event that you tender out for.
The party will be great (as Pride parties always are) but the selection policy of its DJ's is leaving an ever increasing rotten egg smell amoungst us.
the dirty smell of corruption - Wed Nov 8 18:56:08 2000

I'm gonna stand for a position on the board of Pride at its next AGM
Its the only way I can ever get to DJ any dance party - hey,I'm not even a DJ yet !!! - Wed Nov 8 18:59:23 2000

Extremely happy about Grunt still being on and moving to Gas...it will be a night of all that down n dirty Sydney has to offer with both the music and the crowd...can't wait to go Grunting...
Furry Growler - Wed Nov 8 19:50:21 2000

Hope Grunt goes well. However, must say that if Blackmarket are disappointed with presales when they only hold less than 400, what are Gas going to say when their capacity is 800 to 900? Gas are notorious for closing parties with low numbers down early. Let's hope not. Apparently presales as at yesterday were less than 100.
Wishing them luck - Wed Nov 8 20:40:28 2000

I have so got to laugh.I just went to the Pride web site and saw this quote under the heading "our values" ------ "Openness & Transparency - we commit to openness and transparency in the operation of the company." - ummm....i think in reality it should read "we committ to being secretive and reclusive and doing the total opposite of what we say we will do"
What a load of Crock !!! - Wed Nov 8 21:39:02 2000

Were you there? Do u know exactly how Spears was picked? Maybe she said that she wanted to do it. Maybe she submitted a tape and the others liked it. Then maybe they said that they think she was better than the other's and maybe she said hey cool I can do this?? A lot of maybe's that you should all answer b4 making such a big deal.
Wed Nov 8 23:00:45 2000

I would imagine that now that Sleaze has sold out, and caught a few pessimists by surprise, Grunt will hopefully do very well. Alternatives are a healthy thing for the scene, even though I myself am going to Sleaze.
TW - Wed Nov 8 23:48:57 2000

maybe she shouldnt accept a position when she was the one that had the decision to choose the DJ's - that is the most important maybe of all
Wed Nov 8 23:49:06 2000

TW-Well you would be imagining wrong. Nowhere near it, not even close from what I hear. M/G in a turmoil over inability to sell out another party using yet again "the same supposedly popular D.J's". Sure makes you wonder, doesn't it.
Thu Nov 9 2:00:10 2000

Wed Nov 8 23:49- Nice grammar.
Thu Nov 9 2:02:27 2000

TW- Sleaze is not sold out. Far from it. Don't you know that it is good marketing to start rumours about the limited number of tickets left,when ticket sales are slow.
Thu Nov 9 2:07:06 2000
This is the opinion of the poster.

Im gonna stand - Nov 8, 18:59. It sure sounds like you have the right amount of intelligence to be a sydney dj.
Thu Nov 9 2:11:41 2000

Nov 8. 23:00 - Here, here.
Thu Nov 9 2:15:36 2000

Last poster - what a load of crap. Problems with your argument: (1) if a party is rumoured to sell out, people don't even both with the outlets, and sales actually stop, not pick up (2) if MG officially announce Sleaze is sold out (which they have, check the website) and it is noticably not on the night, no one will believe them again; and (3) the financial reports are public information and disclose Sleaze ticket sales, so the board would be crucified. Sorry, they aren't that stupid!
Mara - Thu Nov 9 2:15:36 2000

Dear Disappointed nov 8,9:49- I think I can enlighten as to what is with Sydney's Gay community. We live in the arsehole of the world, a million miles away from any culture and the rest of the world. These people grow up?(for want of a better word)here, exist only on the very very small and incestously vile scene, tell themselves that they are the ones and unfortunately begin to believe it. They never leave Sydney, (a)probably because they are way to busy wasting their lives bitching and moaning to actually earn any real money or to make any valid contribution to society or (b)they need to spend all their money on drugs to maintain such a high standard of pyshcosis and to continue to believe that they are the ones. They spend so much of their time having the same conversations over and over, suprise, they never learn anything. Anyone who has spent any extended amount of time o/s, comes to realise very quickly just how insignificant and pathetic all this carry on on sydney's gay scene really is. Are we all as negative and whinny as we sound, sure sounds like it to me. A small minority of sydney gays are not like this but unfortunately they get lost amongst and screamed down by the masses of whinning, unsupportive, full of themselves and attitude, no goals in life people. Because we are so far away from the rest of the world and there is really no one to inform them otherwise, they have nothing really to compare themselves with, Sydney became the biggest sufferer of Tall Poppy Sydrome know in the world today. If you are even remotely successfull, attractive, intelligent, happy or talented, then it is seen as everyones duty and God given right to pull them back down to the gutter level on which they exist. So much for proud to be gay, I am very, just not as part of sydney's gay scene. A large number of the posters on this board are obviously disgruntled DJ's who didn't get selected, cause why else would anyone bother to go on so much about it. Those with talent don't need to rip shreds of those with none to try to gain some credibility. They are quietly secure in there own self confidence. I would love to see some of these whiners take themselves overseas and carry on like you do, how far do you think you will get. Straight on a plane back to Sydney. So Disappointed, we are not all like this but the hugest majority are. If I was you I would go to anywhere in Europe, the USA, Greece or Spain. You'll be a lot happier. P.S M/G Parade, 1 million straight people getting drunk and pushing and shoving, and yelling look at the queers. Sounds really gay doesn't it.
over the attitude - Thu Nov 9 3:46:32 2000

In regards to over the attitude's comment, I could not agree more. However, thats just the way the Sydney scene is, most of these people who bitch are has beens. And to all the guys who bitched about me in Sydney, I made it happen on the London scene and in New York simply because im a nice guy. All that bitching that goes on is so 90's anyway, get over it and grow up!
Aussieman - Thu Nov 9 6:41:56 2000

To 'Wishing them luck - Wed Nov 8 20:40:28 2000' - I'm sorry, but, you do not have your facts correct. The presale numbers were approximately 130 as early as late last week. They are much higher than that now, and it is shaping up to be a great night. Change of venue is a better thing.
Thu Nov 9 7:41:39 2000

I have just been over to MG's web site and it says that Sleaze Ball has SoLD OuT. Why some of you are either lying or in denial about it is beyond me. And the generalised comments by "over the attitude" (really? convince us) and "Aussieman" barely deserve comment. You two are as bad as the supposed people you criticise.
TW - Thu Nov 9 8:04:57 2000

Errrrrrrrrrrrrrrrrrrrr dear "over the attitude" Please re-read your post and just give me a score out of 10 on just how much attitude and vileness was in your post ? Darls, I travel the world constantly, and let me tell you, attitude and vileness is in the straight world in every city, in the gay world in every city. You have just chosen the wrong group of people to hang out with. Besides if there were 100 posts on these walls with attitude and being vile, is that representative of the entire Sydney scene ? NO . There are more gays in Sydney who wont have a thing to do with Oxford St , dance parties or these walls. So please please please do go and live overseas and please dont click onto this site.
No attitude and a nice person - Thu Nov 9 8:17:39 2000

lets get make to the issue at hand - heres another letter that has been forwarded to me that is being sent to Pride ========= To Both Co-Presidents of Sydney Pride Centre
26 Hutchison Street Surry Hills NSW
Subject RE - New Years Eve Dance Party.
Dear Sir and Madam, I respect the excellent and unforgiving work that Pride Centre does for the gay and lesbian community.What your centre achieves is so worthwhile for many of us. Yesterday however I got wind of information that to me sounded like something that I thought was not what I would have expected for the company.
Let me refer you a direct quote from Prides "motto" that appears on your own web site -----

Our Objectives:
 	To manage and develop a dynamic, ongoing and viable Gay, Lesbian, Bisexual and Transgender community centre.

	To promote and encourage the cultural development and documentation of our diverse communities. 

 	To ensure the financial viability and accountability of the Sydney PRIDE Centre.
	
 	To facilitate access to and provide resources for educational and training opportunities.
	
 	To encourage the broadest possible community participation in the Sydney PRIDE Centre.
	
 	To promote, encourage and support, health and well being across our diverse community.

Then this ---- Our Values:
Openness & Transparency - we commit to openness and transparency in the operation of the company.
The selection of a DJ from within your own board (i refer Sioux Spears) flies in the face of adversity particulary with the Openness and Transparency statement. It also will go along way to breaking down many of the centres core "Objectives" by eroding away the trust of the community. Public tenure of DJ's requires a fair and unbiased process of selection.To select a DJ holding office at Pride (no matter how brilliant she is) is wrong , double standardised , and smacks of cronyism.
I am disappointed at the lack of integity that Pride has shown here for the third year in a row.In this respect I refer to Kate Munroe's selection in 1999 and one the the straight/hetrosexual Ferris brothers being chosen in 1998 under the selection of his sister Virginia Ferris who was party director that year.
You two people as President need to step in and fix this problem - continual eroding away of the confidence of the people that want to support your party and your centre is bad news for Pride indeed.
Kind Regards,
Steve McPherson - Thu Nov 9 9:16:22 2000

Dear Aussieman Way to go!Success is the best and the most enjoyable form of revenge. I think its sad that we just have to either accept Sydney is just like that, or move. I for one love Sydney, its my home and always will be but I just can't accept small minded people's,ill informed opinions and bitching being forced down our throats constantly. To: No attitude and a nice person, score out of 10 for attitude,-0.Vileness=8. I am though entitled to my opinion. Your comment "there are more gays etc", you can't be speaking from experience as you are on this wall.
over the attitude - Thu Nov 9 9:24:02 2000

Steve McPherson - Thu Nov 9 9:16:22 2000 - Get over it, move on, get some substance and positivity in your life.
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