Welcome to Pinkboard's Mardi Gras 2008 Graffiti Wall. This year we are celebrating Mardi Gras' 30th anniversary. And it looks like it is going to be a really big year.

A quick history lesson first. Way back June 1978, before some of you were even thought of, a number of gay men and women (as they were called then) marched in solidarity with sisters and brothers around the world. In 1969 the police raided the Stonewall Inn in New York once too often and the patrons rioted. The 1978 march was commemorating this riot and the birth of the modern gay rights movement. This march turned into a riot as police tried to close it down. Eventually the police herded the marchers into Kings Cross and proceeded to attack them. Many arrests followed.

We have been commemorating this event and celebrating the progress towards equality for 30 years. We are still not equal, but we are definitely more equal than we were, and we have more rights than many other countries. In fact homosexuality is still punishable by death in a number of countries, for instance Iran.

Mardi Gras is known to the world as the parade. This is part protest, part celebration, part spectacle. It means different things to different people. Mardi Gras chairman Marcus Bourget has foreshadowed changes to the parade, however this requires lots of discussion.

But Mardi Gras is more than just the parade. On Pinkboard it is mostly about The Party. It is also Fair Day with around 70,000 people attending, theatre, sport, art, music and more parties. There is so much to do that many people call it the Gay Christmas.

This year's poster is a celebration of the last 30 years with many images from past Mardi Gras and Sleaze posters. See how many you can pick.

Mardi Gras Home Page
Mardi Gras 2007 Graffiti Wall #1 and #2
Mardi Gras 2008 Graffiti Wall #2

New wall .... YAY !!! YAY !!!!

Im First yes i am .,..... yay yay HIP HIP HOORAY !!!

WOO HOO !!!!!!!

At first I thought it would be terrible not to have the parade - but thinking about it & what the parade has now become I think this could be a very positive step. I have been in the parade (& will be again next year) and watched it as a spectator on the street & from a balcony. A few years ago I walked down Oxford St after the parade with a group of friends to the party & it was quite a scary experience - not gay friendly at all. Drunk & out of it teenagers who were there to cause trouble - not to join in a celebration of gay & lesbian Sydney.
So let's consider ending the parade with a bang on the 30th anniversary. Keep the parties - make them really kick arse, keep Mardi Gras festival - And channel the extra funds into making fair day something really special for our community - for us.
I am soooo looking forward to the season ahead - I bought my party tickets yesterday - wooohooo !!!

The parade is the only part of the MG festival I participate in. MG gets less and less relevant to me each year and now it looks like it could become even less so.

"The parade is the only part of the MG festival I participate in. MG gets less and less relevant to me each year and now it looks like it could become even less so."

The crux question here is WHY do you allow yourself to be a participant in a circus event. The majority of the people who attend the parade arent saying "wow , he/she is marching for gay rights" , they're actually there viewing you as entertainment, something to have a laugh at. Many are simply viewing the parade as a bunch of half naked poofs making fools of themselves.

Thats how relavant the parade is to people now days.

It used to be protest march. Now its just a sham.

Time to put the baby the bed, she's very very tired.

Agree the Parade can go as I feel it attracts the wrong types to the area now.

Spend up big on the Festival, Fair Day etc and spend up big on lighting/production at the Party. The Party has been the main fund raiser for all those other free events.
I still think Fair Day should have a token gold coin collection upon entry.

Plenty happy to diss the Party but happy to go to free events.

I think Fair Day could take over from where the Parade was and all the various charities/venues/groups can display their wares all day instead of a few minutes in a drunken street.
And maybe some more covered areas for people to sit would be great as well

" I feel it attracts the wrong types to the area now."
I find this amusing. Have you been to Oxford street on any given friday or saturday? That's when you'll see the "wrong types" in the area all year round.

Is the parade done in partnership with the city of sydney or something like that? If not, then why? Perhaps someone should approach the mayor or someone like that and ask for sponsorship from the city that is reaping all of the benifits of our parade... just a thought...

Nah I like the idea of Fair Day taking over from the
Parade.

You want get any ( maybe a few ) of the wrong types there and we can make our political statements, show off our community organisations, the venues can have their tents as they presently do etc .

We could erect signs facing the road stating whatever we like and would be there for the whole day , not just a few hours one night.

Plus save lots of $'s for other events, better things at the parties and so on.

im 2nd yay!!

For what it's worth, I'd be ultra disappointed if the parade went. Yes it's mainly for entertainment purposes these days, I agree with that, but there are still some relevant entries, like PFlag, for example.
Regarding the closing time being 8am intead of 10am, I'm all for it, I think I've probably only stayed till the end about 2 or 3 times so I'd be stoked to get to see the closing show as well.
Aaaahhh.... Kylie.... I'll keep dreaming and crossing my fingers for her to be part of Mardi Gras. Love my Kylie! :D

There seems to be a lot of people who could do without the Parade (on this wall).
I am one of them.

I have been to every MG party since the days of Paddo town hall and participated in many parades but I think the march up Oxford St has passed its 'use by date'.

A lot or the parade goers don't go on to the party ('not their scene or too expensive') and a lot of the party crowd skip the parade all together ('full of drunken straights').

The money saved from the parade can go towards an even more fabulous party for those wish to celebrate that way.

Those with a more political bent or those less finanicial can enjoy an improved 'free' Fair day.

If Marcus is really considering this it would be good to go out with a bang and advertise the 30th anniversary parade as the last.

not that bad in plain white ! anyhow !

hope it's a big typing mistake on mardi gras website to announce 8 am closing time for the party ! don't they know mardi gras party is 10 am ! for yearssssssss !

xoxoxoxox djbear

No, I think you'll find that the Mardi Gras party is closing at 8am this year. It's not a typo.

The City of Sydney Council tries to abstain from getting involved with any party that has particular political/moral/religious views (except for mainstream Christianity, which seems to be acceptable in society). It has to try and remain objective on matters. Hence why a sponsorship opportunity will not work with them!

I'm really pissed at the 8am finish time.

The traditional 10am closing time has been in for years and years and its the only thing thats sets it apart from Sleaze Ball in my opinion.

I think the new 8am finish time is simply yet another nasty cost cutting exercise and i do not welcome this at all.

We have an increased ticket price for the 2008 party but will have to endure a 1/6th stripping in the traditional duration of the event. GO FIGURE !

Not Happy.

Amazing how the people in charge have simply decided to yet again kill off one of the more unique tradtions of the Mardi Gras party.

RIP the 10am close

well it seems that there are a lot of older people who read this wall. i for one am younger and think loosing the parade would just be awful

Don't forget, we now also have the annual August 13th Protest Rally for Equality, that actually unites the entire country... with not only a march down Oxford Street on the weekend around Aug 13th, but marches in all capital cities & many country areas all on the same day.
If we stop the Mardi Gras march & focus all the money onto the party, then for a rally, have all the tv crews focus on the National Protest Rally for Equality on August 13th each year, involving the whole of Australia.

I think the parade is a very visible statement of how the GLBTIQ community feels about itself. Its a statement not just to our community, but to the nation. in the past it was a protest, now it has a celebratory feel. the parade is a marker for all and it says 'we are visible'

Well done Marcus.... start a discussion in direct contradiction with the Constitution of New Mardi Gras. Bloody Stupid I say!

As others have said re the Parade it just reinforces stereotypes. Parts of the crowd just there for a laugh,its over in a few hours.

I really enjoy Fair Day and it could be expanded to make statements and to show off the gay community to the majority of gay people all day. Not every gay person is into partying/Oxford St etc.
Fair Day lets people listen to music other than dance music, show off their dogs, have a picnic, talk to various stall holders etc. At the parade anyone wanting to talk to a particular community even cant as its whizzing past on a truck etc.
Anyone attending Fair Day for the last few years knows the numbers are growing whereas the numbers for the Parade have been dropping so doesnt that at least show you the way the community is heading/preferring ?

i am pretty shocked at the 8am closing time.

the party traditionally closes at 10 so that everyone who participates in the parade can have an opportunity to unpack floats, go home get changed then get to party. Volunteers who work on the parade would also be disadvantaged.

Please can you show me exactly where the constitution there is a paragraph whcih contradicts anything Marcus said?

Poor NMG

Damnded if they do

Damned if they dont

The "damned if you do and damned if you dont" theory really annoys me - It's quite a pointless and superfluous thing to say.

Everyone has an opinion and everyones opinion differs from each other.

NMG is like everything other thing in life, they make decisions that will please some and not others. Thats just the way life is. The day NMG make a decision that pleases (or displeases) EVERYONE is the day we've all been reprogrammed as robots.

Saying "damned if you do and damned if you dont" is just a ridiculous waste of time because you are stating the bleeding obvious.

I think you'll find Marcus' speech was about the fact that Mardi Gras members and party ticket buyers bankroll the parade that brings in tens if not hundreds of millions of dollars into the state economy. It's about time the government picked up the costs as they do with other major events.

Re the new party closing time... personally I love the idea. It was always a struggle to stay all the way until 10am and this way so many more people will be able to see the closing show. I dare say there will be a lot less medical incidents due to people overdoing it in the final hours.

For All those who have negetive comments to say about
NMG and the directors, Least we have a Mardi Gras team i say, dont forget where we were a few years back when the whole thing fell to shit, where were you whinging queens then, Be thankful:
(A) We are having a 30th party it could have very not have happened.
(B) Who cares the party is finishing at 8am like your ever coherent at that time of the morning to care.

I think we need to give more credit to Marcus and the team for all the time and hard work they are putting in to make this a successful 30th party then to tear them a new one with all your bitchy remarks, If didnt have these guys we would have nothing , then what will you complain about ... Just enjoy it and be thankful i say.

So no Hordern, Dome or Forum? Hard to believe it's true. I love sitting on the grass near the Dome having a rest and chatting with friends. Will we still be able to do this?

More thoughts re the parade.

If the members "bankroll" the parade, then what do the huge costs charged to the organisations entering the parade pay for? It's not cheap to enter the parade so where is that money going?

Furthermore has anyone thought of the economic repercussions of NOT having a parade?

Ask any club along Oxford street which night of the year is the biggest trading night for them. It's the night of the parade!

What about the charities who earn 1000's of dollars from their reserved seating stands? Will NMG be compensating them for lost revenue?

Various performers host commentaries on the parade along the route each year. Again who will compensate them for lost money?

Scrapping the parade is the most irresponsible suggestion i've heard in a long time. Instead let's scrap the party! The party wasn't part of the original Mardi Gras tradition and is just another excuse for a few thousand people to have a drugged up night.

Plenty of other parties these days have cheaper tickets, better talent and immeasurably better production values.

IF one has to choose between the two, I'd rather see the parade stay and the party go.

My personal preference is BOTH should remain and an out of touch committie should be the ones to go.

Someone mentioned the situation a few years ago when MG went belly up. I can see the same happening in a short time frame if all of our traditions continue to be stripped away.

All venues are trading. RHI, Hordern, Dome, Forum, Fuse Bar and Fox and Lion.

when is a stereotype not a stereotype? To some observers the the typical Fairdayer could reinforce the whole inner west, gluten intolerant, liberal wet complete with a smelly pooch type. To each their own i say. I never understood why the people who go to fairday are so morally sniify about people who enjoy the parade and party.

Another point is that we should start having a cover charge for Fairday instead of being subsidised by other Mradigras events.

I agree re the safety of an earlier close. Personally, I'm ready to go at 7 and be tucked up in bed by 8.30 after a lovely cup of tea and a shower. Pure bliss! I do understand that people will be a bit miffed at paying more for less though. Hopefully this will offset by a fabulous venue and shows. Glad to hear all halls will be in use. It's funny that that NMG website mentions just one.

It will be worth revising the NMG website as some parts still refer to the party being just in the RHI. Others mention Moore Park.

Luv the Mardi Gras poster.....

Got my hands on The Festival Guide it's gunna be a hectic February next year with so many good things to see and do. And top it off with a massive party weekend.

Bring it on is all I can say......

So are we all gunna wear pearl necklaces for Mardi Gras 30th?

See if my bf is up to it just before we leave for the party........or will there be plenty available at the party? hhhhhmmmmmmm, if only we could have the men only tent back!!!!

I for one may try for a few pearl necklaces as well.

Well there have certainly been some depressing comments here about the parade! But for those among you...and I know you are out there....who love the parade for all its fun, politics, brashness, quirkiness, sense of community and general fabulousness, here is some info about what we will be doing in the parade and we are happy to hear from anyone who isn't too depressed and may wish to join us:

THUNDERBAGS ARE GO!

Calling all Thunderbags!

Do you want to be part of Mardi Gras's 30th anniversary parade?

On March 1st a squadron of Thunderbags and their crews will be flying up Oxford St powered by Shameless Handbag Music (SHM). We are looking for recruits to join this elite squadron.

The design will unite that community icon, the Handbag, with the music of our community (SHM) and characters that should be iconic in our community, Thunderbirds, to form a squadron of 15 giant handbags. They will be accompanied by a marching group in Thunderbird inspired outfits. Everyone has done a Thunderbird puppet impersonation at some stage in their life. This is your big chance to do it for millions as part of a choreographed group!

Our previous designs include a flock of pink flamingoes carrying babies that led the Parade in 2001; a giant sardine tin with human sardines inside; Marie Antoinette style costumes made out of plastic water bottles and marching Spongebob Squarepants ….but 2008 is the year of the Thunderbag.

We are looking for handbag pilots, dancers, a choreographer and people wanting to paint, glitter-glue or use a power tool.

Don't miss this opportunity to be part of a memorable float! And better still, since you will be issued a unique Thunderbag uniform, you won't have to worry about what to wear to the party! You don't have to be able to dance or have any special skills but you do have to be willing to have a bit of fun with the idea.

If you are interested or want to find out more, send an email to Thunderbags08@gmail.com to register interest. We have a Facebook group page called 'Thunderbags Are Go'to upload pictures and designs. But remember, there is a strict limit to the numbers, so register soon and become a Thunderbag for Mardi Gras.

F.A.B.

Kathy Sant (AKA Lady Penelope) and Jenny Mann (AKA Brains)

.
TICKETS TO ALL MARDI GRAS EVENTS ARE NOW ON SALE!

Key dates for Mardi Gras events:

Wildlife - New Years Eve, in partnership with Fuzzy and Fag Tag

2008 Festival Season - Saturday 9 February - Sunday 2 March 2008

Launch - Saturday 9 February

Pool Party - Saturday 16 February

Fair Day - Sunday 17 February

Sol y Luna - Harbour 2008 - Sunday 24 February

Parade - Saturday 1 March

Party - Saturday 1 March
.

The word on the street is that mardi gras has decided to put trance into the hordern all night for the main party. Surely this is a mistake or a rumor that has gotten out of control. Last time they did trance all night was the 4 strings nightmare. Can Brad or anyone from NMG please clarify this rumour? Hordern is surely more suited to dark and dirty tribal or electro house not trance. Who is playing trance anymore apart from Ruby and co and some of the toybox DJ's? All will be forgiven though if NMG are yet to annouce an international trance DJ for the party as well? Tiesto? Paul Van Dyk? Armin Van Burren?

Whats going on?

There are just 80 Days to Mardi Gras !!

There are just 80 Days to Mardi Gras !!

There are just 80 Days to Mardi Gras !!

There are just 80 Days to Mardi Gras !!

There are just 80 Days to Mardi Gras !!

There are just 80 Days to Mardi Gras !!

There are just 80 Days to Mardi Gras !!

There are just 80 Days to Mardi Gras !!

There are just 80 Days to Mardi Gras !!

There are just 80 Days to Mardi Gras !!

There are just 80 Days to Mardi Gras !!

There are just 80 Days to Mardi Gras !!

They had better NOT mess with the Hordern !

AS you say the dark/dirty/tribal music has always been a hit in the Hordern. Its always packed so why piss off
4,000-5,000 punters ?

the only time I saw the Hordern emptier was as you say
with 4 strings. Sure there were party goers who liked him but they were not enough to fill the Hordern.

Not saying dont have trance so dont get upset with me trance lovers but surely NMG could not be that dumb to discard 4,000 people's favourite for another style ?

The Hordern is THE venue in my humble opinion and when its dark/dirty/tribal/hard it cannot be beaten

DOUBLE YAY for trance if that rumour is true about it being in the Horden!

DOUBLE NO if it is Gary.

Get your own Hall

Well here is hoping NMG are doing:

1)Commercial House in RHI with DJ Hex Hector and local DJ's
2)Dark/dirty tribal in Dome with local/interstate DJ's
3)Retro in Forum with local DJ's
and wait for it....
4)Trance all night in Hordern with DJ Teisto (with a massive amount of lasers)

How good would that be?

See ya in the Hordern all night long.....

I've said it before

and I'll say it again

LEAVE the Hordern ALONE

go pick another hall.

NMG will be pissing of quite a few thousand Hordern lovers.

YAY YAY YAY

That would be a fabulous line-up!

How cool will that be if it's trance all night in my beloved Hordern and then trance all day @ Toybox.....I will be in trance heaven.

I'd be surprised if NMG changed over a Halls style the size of RHI or the Hordern.

While Toybox is extremely popular how many Trance fans would actually add in MG as well ? Sure there would be quite a few but would it be enough to fill either of these 2 large Halls ?

If NMG is planning on introducing Trance I would think/hope they would be looking at a more medium sized hall given the unknown factor of how many trance fans would turn up and that its already being caterered for at another Party and the amount of loyal MG party people who support NMG events and fill the RHI and Hordern for the styles that have been very popular since time began.

I think NMG could fill Hordern twice over with trance fans if they had a top trance dj from os playing.

And yes we would do both parties.......

The Mardi Gras Parade is one of the few things keeping our city as an international gay city. With the decline of Oxford St, we need the Parade and Festival to keep up our city's reputation as a great home to a large GLBT population. If the Parade were to go it would require something equally spectacular and significant to replace it. An upgraded Fair Day or Pride March would not be enough. We have to remember MG attracts gay people from all over the world to Sydney

toybox only get what 2500 people to their parties, ruby gets what 500 people. do nmg really think they could get thousands more. lets hope this is a mistake

Agree.

Why would NMG endanger numbers by switching already proven Halls - RHI with its commercial styles, Hordern with its harder/darker/tribal styles, Dome with its dirty grinding sexy whatever you call it

To change RHI you risk offending around say 6,000 and for Hordern around 4,000.
After all these 3 Halls have supported Mardi Gras and Sleaze for many years, are very popular, the dance floors always full so why risk it.

Gary and Trance Boy may do both parties but they would hardly fill RHI or Hordern or Dome - no offence guys.
Nor can they are NMG be sure how many they will get considering Toybox is on. Not everyone could afford or
want to go to 2 parties.
Toybox is a proven and has its followers. Mardi Gras would have to be careful if they wanted to offer some
competition ( and yes I know one is at night and the other a day party but they are only a few hours apart and not everyone can do 2 in a row ).

So Trance lovers would suggest you come up with other ideas than taking over an established Hall. I know some will say you must try new things and agree so it would need another space not risk losing party goers cause their style wont be playing.

Furthermore has anyone thought of the economic repercussions of NOT having a parade?

Ask any club along Oxford street which night of the year is the biggest trading night for them. It's the night of the parade!

What about the charities who earn 1000's of dollars from their reserved seating stands? Will NMG be compensating them for lost revenue?

Sat 8 Dec 2007 16:38:26


The above post is correct is saying that parade night is a goldmine for pubs, clubs and charities but is the parade financially viable for the mardi gras organisation.

The parade would cost well over $250 000.

If the Pubs, clubs and charities who make so much from the parade got behind mardi gras and supported it, imagine how much better it would be.

Imagine if the venues invested part of the money they make over mardi gras by entering amazing floats or decorating the streets. More people would be interested.

Imagine if the charities gave 10% of their income to mardi gras as a licensing fee for the right to raise funds.

I think then we would have a more sustainable event that everyone would benefit more from.

Ohhh please.........
Give the pubs and clubs a break.
If people supported them all year round like they do on mardi-gras night we'd have a much better scene.
Remember they support us 52 weeks a year.

If those numbers true then RHI and Hordern are not in trouble - phew !

I dont think NMG would risk the bigger Halls and really Toybox has now cornered that market.

I think I adressed the expense of the parade in the first part of my comment in regard to the hugely expensive entry fees charged to enter the parade.

Asking charities to give money to Mardi Gras kind of defeats the purpose of having the charities at the event trying to raise money.

Parade entry fees are (from the Parade entry guide on their website):

CATEGORY 1 – GLBTQ COMMUNITY
While there is no compulsory entry fee for this category, the Parade Working Group requests a voluntary contribution of $100 to help offset the significant costs of producing the Parade.
The Parade Working Group appreciates the costs that are involved in preparing an entry and understands that some individuals and groups may find it difficult to make a contribution. As such, the entry fee for this category is
not compulsory.
However, if you or your group are in a position to make a financial contribution, it would certainly be appreciated.
CATEGORY 2 – NON-PROFIT ORGANISATIONS
The entry fee for a non-profit organisation is $350 (inc GST).
CATEGORY 3 – GLBTQ BUSINESSES
The entry fee for a GLBTQ Business Entry is $1,500 (inc GST).

I think that these fees are reasonable. (I assume that community includes our community organisations.)

trance in the hordern is not a rumour

I originally suggest using Fair Day to showcase our community if the Parade goes and the more I think about it the more I like it.

Besides some of the crowd not being gay friendly etc the floats from all the various pubs/clubs/charities etc all get to whizz up Oxford St and its over and done with in a few hours.

Those same pubs/clubs/charities could have much better stalls/tents/displays at Fair Day and they would be dealing with a crowd that uses them - us Gays.

I dont care which way it goes, after a few Parades its all the same but have been enjoying each Fair Day now for about 8 years and I never went to the Parade 8 years in a row. Last time was about 3 years ago and I did not like some elements of the crowd whereas at Fair Day its all about US.

Yes, that may be true, however, is ONLY trance ALL night a rumour? I can imagine they'd throw SOME in to keep those trance fans happy, but all night?

Yes could be like Sleaze Ball and they play last 4 hours with trance and have tribal etc earlier leading into the trance set.

bravo bravo mardi gras....

In that case we need great DJ's and Kylie M

WE need Kylie. Because she need us. And what about new Mardi Gras?

I am happy to pay for the best show ever............

I concur with your suggested fee scale.

"The word on the street is that mardi gras has decided to put trance into the hordern all night for the main party. Surely this is a mistake or a rumor that has gotten out of control. Last time they did trance all night was the 4 strings nightmare."

You guys are distorting the truth! I am sorry but I was there when 4 Strings played his 10 hour set and the Hordern was packed all night. He was f'n brilliant and the Hordern has never been so packed... not even at Toybox New Years Day! Trance, trance, trance all night long in the Hordern... bring it on baby!

I love reading the comments saying things like "there has only been hard music in the Horden since time began" and "NMG would be pissing off thousands of people if they put trance in the Horden". It really sounds like these comments are coming from 1-2 disgruntled people? Firstly, isn't the Dome the traditional venue for the darker tribal styles? That seems to be pretty much the only genre I have heard played in the Dome on a regular basis, yet I have heard many different genres played in the Horden over the years, including trance! Secondly, hate to break it to you guys, but trance is a hugely popular genre (the majority of the dj mag top 10 have been trance djs for a number of years) and I know heaps of people who'd spend the entire night in the Horden if they had trance playing. Thirdly, Toybox caters to people who like their trance light, vocal and fluffy, which is not everyones cup of tea. Indeed, there are plenty of trance fans who don't go to every Toybox.

I personally hope that NMG are bringing out a well known international trance dj, given the price of the party. Having said all of that and despite the fact that I'm a huge trance fan, I wouldn't be upset if they started the night with a more laid-back genre such as progressive house/trance, leading into trance and some harder stuff, and then winding it down a bit in the last few hours.

Sorry you are distorting the truth !

I was there as well and people were walking on and off the floor all the time and at times big gaps of empty dance floor appeared around you. No one was settled as he wasnt bad, just boring.

I dont think for a second NMG would dump a Halls proven style to shove in another style especially as Toybox has Trance all sewn up.

Also I hope they dont make the last 4 hours into Trance either but realise cant always have it my way

"Let Trance get their own Hall.................. - Thu 13 Dec 2007 06:49:40"

And when and where do you plan on starting construction of this hall ?

Yeah Trance lovers , you want Trance that's fine but agree get your own Hall.

You're only upsetting us Hordern lovers.

If 50% of Toybox,Ruby,Arq attendees all decided to do
Mardi Gras as well you still wouldnt have enough to fill
RHI or Hordern.

Not everyone wants/can do 2 parties in a row.

Would think it would be too much of a gamble. Also didnt like the half/half of Sleaze in Hordern. One group happy half the night then not etc so not fussed on the idea either of swapping styles in any Hall half way through
the night.

What about a super lavish tent next to Forum taking up that whole area ? and completely laden with lasers and wooden dance floor of course and high ceiling of course to show of the lasers.

its like a broken record reading these walls at times.

I'm just waiting for someone to post "it's a slap in the face for all those loyal [insert tribal / trance / whaterver] lovers who have supported MG in the past"

anyway on to more important matters. It ridiculous that the women get their own space and the men don't get a space of their own. It's a slap in the face for all those men that have supported mardi gras in the past.

and i can't believe they have chosen an international DJ for the RHI. It's a slap in the face for our local home grown DJ's that work week in week out supporting our community.

They just don't understand our music scene.

And why do they let so many horrible straight people into MG. It's a slap in the face for all those gay and lesbian people who take the time to bitch and moan about mardi gras on these walls.

and i can't believe there aren't any pass outs and that the party is closing at 8am. If I buy a ticket I DEMAND the right to go in and out of the party as I choose ESPECIALLY if i want to nip out to the car park and pick up another vial of G. it's a slap in the face for all those casualty victims at st vinnies who spent so much on drugs for the MG season and are now not allowed to get off their faces.

is there like a secret list of topics that we have to bitch and moan about before MG?

You forgot to add in in

those who like to bitch about others legitimate complaints like you have just done.

Fine its of no interest to you but it is to others.

See post following your comment..................

Its an unknown , its a gamble and would upset others.

NMG would not want to upset RHI and Hordern goers.

Dome wouldnt allow good lasers and would upset that crowd.

Maybe Forum ? as high ceilings for lasers etc and then Retro can take over Fox and Lion upstairs and downstairs ? could have really old Retro upstairs and then more recent Retro downstairs ? just a thought so dont get upset with me Retro Boy

although a suped up tent next to Forum sounds the go as big area and just dont mean a plain old tent but really suped up version with high ceiling lots and lots of lasers , wooden dance floor. After all once inside you dont really look at the walls to know if canvas or brick do you ? its the atmosphere created by the music and lasers.

Tents are a thing of the past. The local residents in Centennial Park will not cop loud trance, house or tribal music all night long.

New Mardi Gras already have enough problems ensuring that noise does not leak out of the RHI and the surrounding areas. They have absolutely no hope of providing the necessary sounds levels within a temporary structure that will please a few thousand trance punters without pissing off the residents in Centennial Park.

2 out of the last 3 Mardi Gras have had trance all night in the Hordern (2005, 2006). What's so new about that?

You forgot the comments about men only / women only spaces. There should also be a flurry some time around what members are entitled to as well.

Mardi Gras has always played trance in the Hordern - it's the home for trance. All you tribal luvers go back to the Dome where you began!!!!!

legitimate complaint? don't make me laugh.

Other events manage to have tents in the same area with no problems, so why not Mardi Gras?

Blame John Howard.

Inquisition this year had 2 tents this year in that area so it does work , you dont know what you're talking about.

Hordern has always been the lead in the edgier music and sure Trance was there years ago , then it went a bit hardhouse, then it became a mix of hard trance/tribal for last few years.

Just get your own wall and stop stirring up posters about taking over one of the main Halls.

Dont you guys/gals know if you try to push something like this and to takeover an established Hall you will only get posters on here sticking up for what they like etc.

If you got on here and offered an alternative like the tent or whatever , then posters would let you have your argument on here.

Lets just cancel the party and spend the 1st of March bitching and moaning anonymously on chat boards.

Can someone please tell me which hall the shows are in? I want to make sure i dont miss any of them! And which hall is most likely to be the one filled with lasers? Thanks

actually it's kinda true, i live in Centennial Park and could hear the tent at Inquisition this year...

Not that ill be complaining about the tent noise.. ill be dancing in it!

bring on Mardi Gras!

so it seems like everyone has really strong views... and tastes.

as a dj, i applaud your passion,

and as an ex promoter, i want to kick you all up the butt for making people like me stop putting on parties, because you talk talk talk, and then never in the door do you walk (no i am not dr seuss! he is a straight dj LOL) to actually support the things you ask for so emphatically (some of you do, and ten points go to you!)

but seriously, would you rather be alone at a party in a big hall of lasers and trance (or contrarily retro and sequins, or in another direction, tribal and class A skank sweat?)

or... would you like to dance with your friends? perhaps even other people's friends? and they're relations? and a plethora of sexuality? perhaps understanding that we all like to be happy, that we all like to be free to enjoy what we enjoy? or is mardi gras just a party, and not a celebration of liberty?

well, you clearly understand what i am saying. share your soul, share your pleasures, share your body, share your music, and most of all, share your PARTY!!!

for all the viewpoints, i am most excited by the people who considered this. a room with progression... just like a CLUB!

start it off with a sound, build it, build it, build it. then cruise it out, sex it up and keep everyone smiling.

my love would be

RHI:
funky house, up to camp tribal and club anthems, lots of shows and end with plenty of classics, warm new club cuts and smiles

HORDERN:
start progressive/tech/tribal work up to harder/faster amongst the surrounding appropriate genres (hard house, techno, trance and so forth), end with sexy driving tunes, be they trance, progressive or other

DOME:
um, anything we can throb too. tribal, tech, prog, electro, house, minimal, and all the bits and pieces around

FOX n LION:
shows, cabaret, people's emerging bands, guest vocalists, drag stars... a cavalcade of fab (much like last year i think)

CITY LIVE
retro from a broad idea of what actually happened in music. starting more diverse, peaking with some more dated but delicious dance (from when that was the word we used to descibe most everything), and then end with twist and spin singalong hipshaker assorted classics

FORUM:
summer house and sydney's special sound with smooth, soul and sunglasses

are there any other spaces? oh yes

GIRL's SPACE
they love it, we love them. if you are a friend of the girls, you should be welcome. if you're not already known to these talented door gals such as miss Lee etc, then perhaps get out to a girl's club on a normal day and earn your stripes. they are welcoming once realising you have no desire to step on them music... bitch bitch bitch and all their friends

BOY's space:
well, why not? it can't be a sex space, so get over it guys. but if you want a small zone, just as the girls have, respect it and the rules, and it will be all good

Forget the spectacle. Make it a march for a couple of years and see Sydney City and the NSW Government leap to help us organise it as a spectacle again. They don't want to admit it, but they LOVE the cash-cow that it is.

I think you'll find that the Forum and City Live are the same venue.

City Live and Forum are the same aren't they ?

but sounds good.

Actually at INQ this year there were two tents.

There were police monitoring the sound levels at all times and they were kept within the required limits. I doubt they would have made as much noise as a football or cricket match.

Also to the above poster who listed the different areas available, I thought the Forum and City Live were the same venue? As someone who claims to be a DJ and former promoter, I thought you would have known that.

Asking charities to give money to Mardi Gras kind of defeats the purpose of having the charities at the event trying to raise money.


If NMG can't afford to sustain the parade, how are these charities going to raise money???? Surely they can make a contribution to ensure the parade happens.

And as for supporting the venues for 52 weeks of the year.....

When they spruce themselves up, stop charging outrageous drink prices and entry fees, I will happily support them.

Yes we all know that tents are used at various dance parties but they tend to be minor dance spaces in comparison to the other venues and the music volumes are generally lower than inside the main halls.

Considering all the problems that Mardi Gras have encountered with local residents in the past, I simply cannot see New Mardi Gras or any other promoter gaining approval for a large-scale outdoor dance space or tent that is capable of holding thousands of people as previously suggested on this wall.

As a long term resident of Centennial Park I can assure you that there are a number of residents within the area that have the noise pollution telephone number on speed dial!

And one final point, at no stage did I suggest what types of music should be played in the various venues, but if you must know…………

If its true about NMG planning on playing trance all night in the Hordern, it would appear they are gunna try a Toybox experience in the Hordern all night. And I say congrats on bringing something different to the party.

Tribal back in a dark hot sweaty Dome (where it came from) would be more suited, as the dome has not been full at the last few parties.

one would think he actually meant city live (now known as the forum) & the horden 'forecourt'

You may not have Laserboy but others did and thats what gets up peoples noses.
Someone rocking the boat with rumours.

Fine if you dont want a tent then there are no other areas for the Trance to be played unless you could convince Fox studios to give you sound stage 8 which
is the closest space to Dome but its not part of Playbill venues and doubt it.

Tent was a suggestion instead of takeover tactics of another Hall.

Correct me if I'm wrong but I always thought the RHI turned into Trance later in the night ? sounded like with all those vocals but I'm not an expert.

But the Hordern has and they wont all fit back in the Dome.

Maybe if Toybox was not on but it is and could be big mistake chucking out one style for another ?

agree why whould they put trance in the hordern when its on offer the next day at toybox and the die hard fans will go there. lets hope its not true and the hordern is tribal and darker styles. why would nmg change from what they did last year?

I say put RETRO ALL NIGHT in the Hordern !!!

YEAH !!!

YEAH !!!

YEAH !!!
YEAH !!!
YEAH !!!
YEAH !!!

RETRO IN THE HORDERN !!!!!!!!!!!!

RETRO IN THE HORDERN !!!!!!!!!!!!

RETRO IN THE HORDERN !!!!!!!!!!!!

RETRO IN THE HORDERN !!!!!!!!!!!!

RETRO IN THE HORDERN !!!!!!!!!!!!

Time for something different !!!

I want it all my way !!!!!!

Im right , you're wrong ...

It's time for RETRO IN THE HORDERN !!!!!!!!!

Give it to me now , or i'll cry

"why whould they put trance in the hordern when its on offer the next day at toybox and the die hard fans will go there. lets hope its not true and the hordern is tribal and darker styles. why would nmg change from what they did last year?"

Your arguement is a bit like saying don't play house or tribal because Homesexual will be playing that. One of the reasons people are going to Toybox is because they can't get thier dose of tance anywhere else. I hope Mardi Gras change what they did in the Hordern last year because it was hopelessly dull in my opinion. Having Trance back at Sleaze with all that fire and lasers was just magical!
.

Hhmm... I kind of agree with a post a bit further up that Toy Box trance isn't everyone's cup of tea, so not everyone will be satisfied there. I am absolutely no expert in the slightest but if I could have house and electro and trance and a bit tribally in the one venue, ie, the Hordern, I'd so love it... so long as they were really good DJ's playing those styles of course.

apologies for lack of venue name knowledge - it has changed names 3 or more times, and the area i was meaning to say instead of Forum ("FORECOURT") didn't really have a name...

thanks for the person who used their brain ahead of the wish to be "right". i appreciate the help. and yes, a promoter and a dj can get a venue name wrong! wow, the same i feel LOL

You after a fight Retro Boy grrrrrrrrrrrrrrrrrr

Always thought Forum would be good for Barn Dancing.

Now thats Retro.

I would like Dome to be packed tight with sweaty hot bodies all night please so I can have a fabulous time!!!!

"Hordern Protector"

what do you do?

wear your jockstrap on the outside of your chaps?

And lets see if we can get the forecourt for some ballroom dancing.

Anyone up for some Tangoette?

RETRO IN THE HORDERN !!!!!!!!!!!!

RETRO IN THE HORDERN !!!!!!!!!!!!

RETRO IN THE HORDERN !!!!!!!!!!!!

RETRO IN THE HORDERN !!!!!!!!!!!!

RETRO IN THE HORDERN !!!!!!!!!!!!

RETRO IN THE HORDERN !!!!!!!!!!!!

RETRO IN THE HORDERN !!!!!!!!!!!!

RETRO IN THE HORDERN !!!!!!!!!!!!

RETRO IN THE HORDERN !!!!!!!!!!!!

RETRO IN THE HORDERN !!!!!!!!!!!!

I demand it , I need it, I gotta have it.

If I dont i'll never go to a Mardi gras again and I'll jump up and down on the spot spit my dummy out and hold my breathe until I turn blue.

YOUVE BEEN WARNED.

i want a space where the VJ plays 5.1 sound like in tokyo at the best clubs. i don't only want sound around my head, i want it below, i want it above!

of course, all i want to hear are britney and whitney remixes, you know, extended radio versions. maybe danni's version of lime and coconut, just to add some underground in there.

but seriously, i dare a dj to play ELECTRIC DREAMS - orig version!

it's funny, but you know, I don't remember Retro Retro Retro being so amused when MG didn't have a retro space at MG a few years back.

Yeah Retro Boy is in for a surprise when the DJ's are
announced.

Shhhhhhhh dont tell him.

u suggesting there is no retro space at the party? now that would just be silly. forum=retro/camp/classics/disco. end of story

Forum = high ceilings for lasers = TRANCE

Retro = Fox & Lion

My picks are:
Hordern - Funky/Progressive/Electro house
RHI - Fluff and tickle hands in the air - Starting with 78 disco and going thru to 08. When the noise complaints come in you can deal with noise reduction, everyone knows the words so you can sing along anyway!
Forum - Retro then Trance - Retro till about 3am then then It could be like the toybox days of old in the metro with the terraced steps
Dome - Tribal
Fox & Lion - Everything else

Sounds like a one man band is pushing an electro / tribal agenda!

Face it... Boy George and Co tanked in the Hordern at Mardi Gras last year. The recent acclaimed Sleaze Ball has shown what we've always known... that TRANCE should reign supreme in the Hordern. Ahhh those lights, the lasers, the balls of fire and the glorious trance still brings a smile to my face!

Hordern - hard/tribal

RHI - commerical

Forum - for Retro Boy or Trance half way through

Dome - that dirty sexy grinding music they have

Fox and Lion start cabaret stuff finishes Retro

NMG could not risk putting Trance into one of the big Halls due to the competition that weekend. Even if 50% of those going to Toybox went to MG it would still not be enough to fill either of the 2 big spaces.

As for Sleaze the swap to trance ended up being boring sorry thats my opinion. And it was the only large hall which is why it was busy thats all. Everyone from my group said they only danced cause there was no other choice and it just became a monotonous beat for the remainder of the night.

Hordern when its having a mix of hard and tribal has different beats etc and just cannot be beaten.

all you people providing your "wish lists" regarding what sound should be in what hall are all fools.

What makes you think NMG are going to pay any attention to posts on this board at this stage of proceedings ?

NMG have already chosen all their DJ's and already planned the evenings footprint months ago.

The decision re what style of music is in what hall has already been made and will not be changed.

Your "wish lists" are pointless in my opinion

"NMG could not risk putting Trance into one of the big Halls due to the competition that weekend. Even if 50% of those going to Toybox went to MG it would still not be enough to fill either of the 2 big spaces"

Firstly, Toybox does not represent all those that enjoy trance so your arguement falls apart right there. I love trance but I am not into the cheesy variety that they serve up.

Mardi Gras should play trance in the Hordern all night long as it will bring the crowds back. All the big and successful parties had trance in the Hordern and the recent foray into electro / tribal has just killed the ticket numbers (look at last years figures on page 18 of the festival guide).

Tribal belongs in the dome as that's the perfect size to fit the people who like it in.

My only "wishlist" is that all DJ's be treated equally in the selection process.

Sadly it's the standard clandestine "friends only" policy again.

Ok, everyone start "wishing" for good, bad, dry, wet, humid, sultry, summer weather and we'll end up with a bit of everything
Of course MG have already locked in their genre's in each space, but what else is there to talk about at this early stage?
The topic will move to the individual DJ's once they are announced and whether they are suited (or not) to the halls they are playing in.
Rumours about George, Kylie, Danni, Madonna, Dianna, Celine, Whitney and Kelly performing; lasers, lighting, decorations & costumes will soon follow - and maybe even the parade will become a talking piece!

"Sadly it's the standard clandestine "friends only" policy again."

Well, I've been involved in one of the selection processes for a party run by Mardi Gras and although a lot of people on here were claiming that to be the case for that particular party, it didn't work like that at all. It's not worthwhile for MG to do that, it has to be about the music and obviously it's going to go on a majority rule of whoever is in the selection committee for that party. Unfortunately, you can't please all people all the time I suppose.

You dont get it do you ?

excluding last Sleaze , the Hordern and RHI both have a style that is popular and brings in the crowds. The majority of them !

Change one of those Halls just like your saying means you have upset around 6,000 in the RHI and around 4,000 in the Hordern.

I dont know the names of the styles but you get my drift when I say RHI is known for its commercial/handbag.
Hordern is known for its hard stuff and to me that has always included styles like hardhouse/hard nrg/hard
trance definately not that cheesy trance crap apologies to those trance lovers. Very few vocals as well.

I usually split my time between Hordern and Dome as those 2 styles suit me but tend to spend most time in Hordern as that venue is unrivalled !

If say the Hordern did change styles and there was suddenly no harder stuff then would consider not going and look for an alternative to MG.

So I doubt NMG would want to risk offending anyone from those 2 Halls as again , they are the majority who go year after year ( for me about 22 years now ).

If cheesy Trance lovers do want to canvas NMG for Trance then also come up with a space instead of pissing of others with a takeover.

I think the fact that Sleaze Ball was a massive success- and that NMG actually planned for TRANCE to be in the Hordern at the close of the party - proves how popular trance is (and how wrong you lot are who are saying it doesn't work in the Hordern).

House, electro and that other bull doesn't belong in the Hordern. It's a waste of a sound proofed venue and good sound.

"If cheesy Trance lovers do want to canvas NMG for Trance then also come up with a space instead of pissing of others with a takeover."

Um... no one ever said anything about cheesy trance! There's all different styles of trance including hard trance.

Personally I love hard trance and hard NRG. I can't stand what they did in the Hordern last year though which was more tribal and electro... its just so souless and lacks energy.

Agree

the Hordern and those harder styles just cannot be beaten by any other venue and when there is great lighting its
(almost) orasmic

Qoute from http://techno.org/electronic-music-guide/

"trance is the most emotional genre. It can make you cry, make you shout, make you cheer, and make you celebrate absolutely nothing of substance except pure, ecstatic bliss. This is interesting, when at one time it was very repetitive and hypnotic (hence its label 'trance') and was very easy to get lost in whilst divulging in aforementioned emotions. But now it's quite difficult to get entranced due mostly to the fact that the genre has devolved into such trite, derivative junk that even the biggest culprits of it are having trouble lying about how interesting it is. If you ignore the cliched, breakdown-build-anthem template side of the genre that is so canned and predictable you can set your watch to it, trance is still pretty fun. Unless you're trying to be a Sasha worshipping pretentious snob not partaking in that, in which case you don't even want to admit you're listening to trance anymore."

and another

"Technically all trance is tribal at a ritualistic level, it being the one musical genre that is simultaneously sacred and profane, blissed-out and dreadful, stupid fun and spiritually deep. Tribal Trance, ironically, seems like none of those things. But it is fun to dance to on a nude beach somewhere with a full moon overhead. I fully recommend it. It's too bad it doesn't get much playtime these days anymore. Not even at goa parties."

Enough said, leave Hordern to Tribal........

There are a number of recent posts rubbishing various styles of music.

1) Learn to respect others choice of music. Music is very personal and different people like different styles. From now on any post that is disparaging of other music styles will not be published.

2) By all means say what style of music you would like to hear in what hall. However, learn to respect the volunteers who put in many many many hours of hard work to make these parties a reality. If you want to have input then make your suggestions constructive, or become involved. Also, please respect that Brad is not a Mardi Gras spokesperson and cannot tell you anything about the party.

3) It is very likely that musically Mardi Gras is locked in. There is no point getting angry when someone suggests something you don't like. All we can do is wait and see what the marketing machine wants us to see (or sleep with someone who knows). Learn to respect your fellow posters.

Let's make this a brave new Mardi Gras Graffiti Wall and practice some respect!

no... i think you'll find that

TRIBAL TRANCE in the Hordern

is the answer along with

ELECTRO RETRO in the Forum

and

FUNKY ANTHEMS

Whilst I respect JGirl immensley, excluding Sleaze this year, the DJ line ups for the parties since NMG stopped taking expressions of interest have been almost identical with the same names appearing time and time again.

I have no doubt those same names will re-appear at the 2008 party after being rested for Sleaze this year (thus trying to negate the complaints of putting the same people on every time).

Yes I am a disgruntled DJ who despite playing consistently locally, nationally and internationally for years now, has been ignored every single time for any NMG parties.

At a major non-NMG dance party earlier this year, one prominent and (very vocal when it comes to self promotion) NMG working party member behaved in such an unprofessional manner towards me, it caused all the other DJ's present to comment that "obviously you won't be getting Sleaze or Mardi Gras anytime soon". Sure enough this has been the case.

I'm happy to compete with my friends/fellow DJ's and miss out on my merits but to be excluded due to one persons well advertised dislike towards me, makes me angry and with good reason.

IF NMG really has nothing to hide, make the selection process open and honest. Until then, a growing number of us not on a certain persons xmas card list continue to feel we're not getting a fair go.

This is all I'm saying on this subject and I will not be reading or commenting on this wall anymore.

Hi there,
If you send me an email to marcus.bourget@mardigras.org.au outlining the incident you refer to (along with your name and other DJ's present) I will take it up with the working group and the individual concerned.
Thanks
Marcus

See NMG do read this board.

So remember people you get things with honey not
vinegar.

NMG is an independent organisation. Pinkboard readers don't pay its employees' salaries. NMG can make whatever decisions it wants regarding the festival, march and party. If people are not chosen as DJs, they must accept that decision. NMG does its best to fill the halls with happy participants. I love the Dome, and tribal is fine by me, but really I love the atmosphere there. The music is secondary. It helps create the mood I want.

Dear dear dear. I think I first discovered Pinkboard's Graffiti Walls more than 10 years ago, and a decade later I've just popped in to find that nothing has changed and everyone is whining about Mardi Gras not consulting them on what sort of music they play, where they play it and who'll be playing it. You know what, Mardi Gras is a long night's journey into day - although a tad shorter these days believe, but somehow I'll live without those extra two hours. Just chill out and enjoy it. Be with your mates, explore the whole shebang, wander around aimlessly, get lost, snog people of the same gender identity, dance with sexy strangers, laugh, catch some shows. Don't let the fact that you didn't hear your favourite song ruin your whole night. Play it when you stop in at home on your way to recovery. Seriously, you'll have a much better time if you stop panicking about DJs. Panther, the comments from you about disrespectful opinions are a bit school-marmish luv

that woudl be the carpark b/w Dome and Forum

Just realised that the ticket price for Mardi Gras is $150... what? That is a bit much don't you think?

Not really, when you think that some people will buy a MardiGras party ticket for $100, plus a Toybox ticket for the next day for $50.
So $150 for MardiGras is really not that much extra when people apparently have so much extra money to throw around... why not have it go towards promoting Gay & Lesbian culture in MardiGras, rather than to promote Westmead Hospital (via Toybox).

"Just realised that the ticket price for Mardi Gras is $150... what? That is a bit much don't you think?"

Actually tickets are only $120 for members and they can buy two tickets each at that price. With one party alone you more than recoup your membership fees not to mention the discounts you get to Sleaze, Harbour Party plus many festival events.

On the subject of the party I've heard some strong rumours that there is someone pretty big lined up for the night!

remember when dj's took you on a journey and you could get electro, retro, tribal and trance all in the one set and god forbid they played kylie and madonna in the rhi (pre city live/forum days). I'm showing my age. my first mardi gras was 1990, the last year they had it up the back in the government? (districts exibits) pavillion. anyone else rememeber the snowstorm? now we have set venues for set music styles and dj's boxed into set catgories. it's all got so very same old same old. pity. mind you, I'll still be at mardi gras dancing with my friends and enjoying the night and hoping for a brave dj to step out of that comfort zone and take us on a journey once again.
currently listening to the cicadas

Never got the journey thing with music Kitten Kaboodle.

Nor do I think DJ's are boxed in. Its called genres. Back in the old days my love it was just dance music and then broke into many genres so you now need a number of halls to attract the crowds.

$150 for MG is fine for me as I am a member so get it for $120 and will get a cheaper ticket for Sleaze so will easily get back my fee plus the little extra's they provide and/or discounts. So become a MEMBER

Aren't Toybox tickets around $130? seems MG will be the better buy with all the Halls with different styles of music plus the entertainment plus the atmosphere outside the Halls is worth the $20 just on its own ! Cannot be beaten.

Ahhhhhhhhhhhhhhh Kitten,

the days when 1 hall did all but I still remember back then waiting for the faster stuff to come on and I have been happy with Hordern for about 15 years ? now for most parties as when moved from Govt Pavillion and took on
RHI and Hordern etc , the Hordern was faster with its early Trance styles back early 90's then by late 90's it had taken on styles like early hardhouse and then was usually mix of hard & tribal which is me to a T. Not once have I seen the Hordern empty when playing these styles.

You almost have to have 2 spaces nowadays or different rooms etc with at least 2 styles playing to attract a decent sized crowd. Talking big parties here not small/
medium types as I know Toybox can get 2,500'ish.

my point is though that a good dj can play across the specific genres and take you somewhere in a style of music you wouldn't normally listen to or dance to. it' not about playing trance all night. or tribal. or any other one style. it's still all house and based on a strong rhythm and base. and house itself is just a reivention of 70's disco. madonna's 'die another day' works just as well in a trance mix or an electro mix or a classic vocal house mix. dj's did mix it up more at the big parties than they do now. that was the joy of the rhi and the horden with its better lights and soundwas used as one of the other posters have said for the harder, edgier, faster styles like trance and techno whilst the really hard stuff like jungle/tribal/acid was played in the dome. the dj'ing these days in whatever genre in whatever venue is nowhere near as varied or interesting as it used to be.

By the way... I love the Mardi Gras artwork for the 30th anniversary... it's really growing on me. Love the link back to the previous party posters and the fact that they are all heading to somewhere in the future. Very clever!

Plus the Mardi Gras website looks great! Well done to the volunteers at Mardi Gras!

Mardi Gras speaking about the up coming 30th Anniversary Party celebrations..(quote)
"Over 20 DJ's
DJ's are flying in from New York, London, Barcelona, Berlin and Auckland to spin with our own steller contingent."
Here's where it gets a little fuzzy for me;
1. Mardi Gras screams NO Money ! So can one assume that these DJ's from all over the world are flying in at their own expense ???
2. It's the 30th Anniversary, a mile stone, so why is it that there isn't any of the DJ's who played a huge part in establishing the success of the MG party Giving it world wide recognition as a "Not to miss yearly event"
DJ's like ; Stephen Allkins , David Hiscock , Lexi Bradfield , Mark allsop and Rob Davis. All of these DJ's are credited to the parties success. And are all still working today.
Were any of them even asked if they wanted to be involved ???
Don't get me wrong I'm not saying the line up of DJ's are not up to the task, On the contarary, I think it's great that international DJ's want to play at our party. But lets not forget WHO MADE THIS POSSIBLE. How can we celebrate 30years and to not have any of the original DJ's in the line up?

Look !

Can I just say , why dont you just wait till the DJ's are announced before dumping on NMG ?

All you are doing is assuming.

You dont know who has been asked, You dont know who has been hired.

How can we celebrate 30 years ? by giving NMG a chance and by waiting to see exactly who is playing.

It think you'll find there -are- some original/veteran MG djs on the line-up. I didn't think the line-up had been released yet though, so why are you pre-maturely whinging? Unless it's been released and I haven't seen it, then could you please reference your source so we can all have a look?

Also - Mark Alsop has never played at a MG or Sleaze party, but I agree that he's been a large part of the gay clubbing scene for the last 20yrs.

DJ's like ; Stephen Allkins , David Hiscock , Lexi Bradfield , Mark allsop and Rob Davis. All of these DJ's are credited to the parties success. And are all still working today.
Were any of them even asked if they wanted to be involved ???

It would be great to hear some of the old greats again. If they were not asked maybe it was because no one thought of it. This is why we need to make suggestions at the appropriate time.

All these people critising others who raise concerns with DJ's stating "wait till the line up is announced"

Has anybody stopped for one solitary second to consider that those posting ALREADY KNOW the DJ line up.

You only have to know people "in the know" to have this info leeked to you.

I already know the entire line up in the RHI and the Hordern and a few from the Dome as well.

PS - A post a few up says Mark Alsop never did a Mardi Gras or Sleaze gig. This is not correct. He did do one maybe two Mardi Gras run parties back in the 80's

So share your wisdom. Who's in the line-up?

not according to the man himself he hasn't.

'I already know the entire line up in the RHI and the Hordern and a few from the Dome as well.'

So if you are in the know is the Hordern going to be Trance all night?

Well based on the locations, here's my guess at pin the DJ on the city:

Berlin I think is easy. Didn't a Sydney DJ move over there, who flies back every year for Mardi Gras. Besides, it's on his myspace page as being confirmed.

London - hoping it's not Wayne G. Perhaps the Freemasons are back again.,

Barcelona - interesting. Didn't Paul Goodyear move there recently?

New York = Hex Hector.

Auckland - perhaps some of the Mardi Gras DJs are playing Hero first and flying back. Excellent marketing ploy.

" Has anybody stopped for one solitary second to consider that those posting ALREADY KNOW the DJ line up"


Nope !


and why ?

cause there are soooooooooooooooooooooo many who say they are in the know.

Your posting has no credence you because you say you know.

Hoping not Trance in the Hordern.

But agree with other posters. Its no use moaning now. The DJ's have probably been selected so lets just wait till they are officially announced.

Come on Mardi Gras - Step it up for somee live music (please!)

Look at the success of Homebake / Big Day Out / Good Vibrations

There are heaps of live music loving homos and lezzos and trannys and more. The Presets and Paul Mac in the Dome last year were both amazing, and really well recieved.

Let this party not only reflect the past - but also the diversity of our community.

Heres to a eclectic and diverse bill. Please step above the Summer Gay Day trio of dj retro, dj house and dj tribal.

I remember Wayne G rocking The RHI in 2000 and 2001. Hopefully it will be him although I think he lives in San Francisco now??

I heard Paul Goodyear is def on the cards for MG.

Hell Yeah!

Yay for TRANCE in the Horden!

Research helps...from Paul Goodyear's website:

I moved to London as planned but missed the sunshine too much. Now I am living in sunny Barcelona and loving it- what a FANTASTIC city. BCN is a great base and I do still play in London regularly as well as all over Europe, the USA and Australia

That takes care of the Barcelona DJ. Didn't he play last year? I seem to remember him clearing the floor in the RHI with a 100bmp mix of Dancing Queen.

Christ - it's all party party party! Anything else to comment on that is a part of the FESTIVAL?

YAAAY! Line up has been released!!!! Trance ALL NIGHT in the Hordern!!!

http://sxnews.e-p.net.au/news/mardi-gras-dj-lineup-announced-2086.html

Hordern Pavillion 'Neon Fusion'

10pm – Ruby (Sydney)
12.30am – DJ JoSH (Adelaide)
3am – Marty (Auckland)
5.30am – Peter Newton (Melbourne)
Building from its success at ‘Zirkus’ Sleaze Ball, the Hordern Pavillion will be trance-formed into ‘Neon Fusion’ - an eruption of lasers and uplifting vocal trance with DJ Marty flying in from Auckland to take over the decks. Marty is a regular at New Zealand’s Salvation and Hero parties and is spinning in Sydney for the first time.

This is from the SX article but where is Forum / City Live. There is no mention of it.

Royal Hall Of Industries 'Discotarium'

10pm – Murray Hood (Sydney)
12am – Hex Hector (New York)
4am – Paul Goodyear (Barcelona)

Hordern Pavillion 'Neon Fusion'

10pm – Ruby (Sydney)
12.30am – DJ JoSH (Adelaide)
3am – Marty (Auckland)
5.30am – Peter Newton (Melbourne)

Dome 'Zootopia'

10pm – Sveta (Sydney)
12.30am – Mike Kelly (Berlin)
3am – Jack Chang (London)
5.30am – Mandy Rollins (Sydney)

Forecourt

10pm – Winners of the DJ Spin-Off competition, and Katie Drover (Melbourne)
4am – Eddie Coulter (Sydney)
6am – GI Jode (Sydney)

The Royal Hall of Industries will be transformed into a glittering ‘Discotarium’. Spinning universal past, present and future dance anthems, remix sensation Hex Hector (New York) will be joined by Paul Goodyear (Barcelona). Paul now has residencies in Amsterdam, London and San Francisco and has played at Mardi Gras parties since 1991. “After playing many Mardi Gras parties and being part of the scene for the last 23 years, I can’t wait to showcase and remix some of the big gay icons of the last 30 years. You’ll be able to dance with Donna Summer, Diana Ross, Sylvester, George Michael, Eartha Kitt and me. Expect grand from Mizz Goodyear!”

Building from its success at ‘Zirkus’ Sleaze Ball, the Hordern Pavillion will be trance-formed into ‘Neon Fusion’ - an eruption of lasers and uplifting vocal trance with DJ Marty flying in from Auckland to take over the decks. Marty is a regular at New Zealand’s Salvation and Hero parties and is spinning in Sydney for the first time.

The Dome returns to its traditional tribal and animalistic roots, becoming ‘Zootopia’. Jack Chang, sailing down from London, will be joined by local-boy Mike Kelly, now based in Berlin. Jack is well known on the European leather and tribal scene with residencies at Greenkomm, Love Muscle, Fist (London) and many others. Jack and Mike recently played the main floor sets for the hugely successful Hustlaball in Berlin. Mike Kelly, well known on our local scene, has also built an impressive residency list in Europe, including Greenkomm in Cologne, Naughty in Brussels and Insatiable in Madrid.

“We have a galaxy of talented DJs and performers for our 2008 party” said New Mardi Gras chair, Marcus Bourget. “Keep your telescope focused for more exciting updates as the ship sails closer to the 30th birthday of one of Sydney’s favourite parties. We’ll let you know all about the live band area we’re planning to rock your party and the women won’t be disappointed either.”

“We have a galaxy of talented DJs and performers for our 2008 party” said New Mardi Gras chair, Marcus Bourget.

“.... We’ll let you know all about the live band area we’re planning to rock your party and the women won’t be disappointed either.”

Oh wow! Oh wow! Oh wow!

Who is going to what in the Festival? I am going to Pam Ann, Margaret Cho, Cyndi and E-Volution at The Supper Club.

I don't know Jack Chang but after looking at his website - he could be playing some seriously tasty music. I like the Dome line-up. But the question I am asking myself is, is it worth $150?

Yea!!! Trance and lasers all night long in it's true home the HORDERN.......

Bring on Mardi Gras.

WHERE THE HELL IS CITY LIVE ???????????/

Why is retro missing out this year - because there's no city live. Why isnt this venue being utilised ?

WHY

WHY

WHY ????????????????

Booooooooooo to trance in the Hordern , spoiling my favourite venue

but I do hope it gets packed and doesnt suffer because of Toybox the next day.

Or maybe there will be some harder trance later in the night to redeem to poor Hordern from its vocal fate.

I recon that that the Forum/City Live venue is going to be the live band venue they refer to in the press release, it would make sense? Not smart mardi gras. Not smart. It worked last year in the Dome but why fuc# with the Forum/City Live and its retro? Especially this year? I think that a certain young party producer is going to get lynched by the retro fan club.

The RHI is earmarked for retro honey!

Read the facts! We're out of city live and into the biggest hall. Its all about 30 years of "30 years of Mardi Gras hits"

retro rules!


Dont be annoyed ... "throw parties - not tantrums"

Awesome line-up everywhere.....

Stroke of genius to make the Hordern a trance cave. That will please a lot of hitherto 'feeling-disenfranchised' punters!

Thrilled to see Paul G play at the RHI, his natural hom. He's one of very few who can make that space sound right!

And the Dome is just the dream team for the durty bois and gurls.....

And no stupid B2B in sight! YAY! Well done, NMG!

Got my tix.....Can't wait now!!!

So it's a smaller party going for less time, but costing way more. I'd be happy with the Dome line up but I can't see what I'm getting for my money. I think I'd be happier spending my $15 to go to Phoenix - so I will.

And how many mirror balls can they fit into the RHI for the retro disco? Hope it will have the matching retro flashing dance floor too. Go Retro Go!!!!!

This is gunna be one party to hoot!!!

"Hordern Pavillion 'Neon Fusion'

10pm – Ruby (Sydney)
12.30am – DJ JoSH (Adelaide)
3am – Marty (Auckland)
5.30am – Peter Newton (Melbourne)

Building from its success at ‘Zirkus’ Sleaze Ball, the Hordern Pavillion will be trance-formed into ‘Neon Fusion’ - an eruption of lasers and uplifting vocal trance with DJ Marty flying in from Auckland to take over the decks. Marty is a regular at New Zealand’s Salvation and Hero parties and is spinning in Sydney for the first time."

Hey Gary-ToyboxRules, we are in for one helluva trance weekend @ Mardi Gras & Toybox. This has made my day. And I am sorry but the Hordern is home for Trance.

Woo Hoo!!!

While not happy about losing Hordern to trance , all I hope is that more than Gary Toybox rules and Happy Feet turn up to fill it.

Was at Sleaze and for my group of friends only reason we dance in Hordern was because it was the only Hall.
Lasers were awesome but music was average but respect everyone has different viewpoint.

If party sells out then Hordern will have a crowd no matter whats in there but if party is not sell out, I just hope the Toybox,Arq,Homesexual crowd do Mardi Gras as well ( but then again if they do that could mean losing the harder Hordern hmmmmmmmmmm ).

My poor Hordern

House Music for NYE and looks like commercial/vocal trance for Marid Gras.

You will just have to wait for QDance for the good hard stuff.

Does anyone know the styles of the last 2 DJ's in the Hordern for MG ? will they continue on with commercial
type trance or maybe get a bit harder ? dont mind the commercial stuff to start off with but when everything kicks in, love something a bit harder/nrg ?
And I certainly dont remember DJ Josh being commercial type trance ? but havent heard her for about 18 months ?

Looks like a great line up with.

Now who will be in the shows ?

The party producer is simply that, a producer. He makes the technical things happen. The party working group makes all those decisions. No point lynching Brad.

You're not the same person who starting off the party posts by saying that NMG are only using the Hordern are you?

The post said there is more stuff to be announced so why don't you wait and see before you start bagging Mardi Gras.

And to help you understand what you're getting for your money... you'll be getting

A - FAIR DAY
B - THE PARADE
C - 30 YEARS OF VISIBILITY
D - A KICK ARSE FESTIVAL
E - A KICK ARSE PARTY

and a chance to say you were part of the 30th celebrations.

open your eyes - mardi gras is so much more than the party although i'm about to wet my knickers cos im so excited.

Woooo HOOO

How much fun it shall be! Happy Feet what fabulous news. It is marvellous to see our wonderful Ruby in the lineup for Mardi Gras- WE LOVE YOU RUBY!

Cant wait for the visual feast of the lasers, Flame throwers and compressed air!

Looks like my party lineup will be Mardi Gras Party (Neon Fusion in the Horden) then TOYBOX LUNA PARK!

Merry Christmas everyone look forward to partying with some of you over the new year at Wildlife and Twilight.
x

"The party producer is simply that, a producer. He makes the technical things happen. The party working group makes all those decisions. No point lynching Brad."

Refer to the Mardi Gras Official Festival guide.

Go to Page 98 which lists the credits showing who is on what committee.

Under the title Party Working Group there you will find Brad Wrights name. He may be the producer but he is **ALSO** on the party working group.

Please lets not be playing with semantics here. He has just as much a say as anyone else on that committee.

Not knocking anyone here , just pointing out some facts

Yes Santa came early for me, with the news the Hordern will be transformed into Trance Heaven @ Mardi Gras.

Trust me the hall will be packed all night.

Thanks NMG for a great line up in all the Halls.

Got my tickets today! Hip hip hooray! Can't wait for Mardi Gras party! Can't wait for Mardi Gras festival - full stop! Bring on gay Christmas!

oh my god, oh my god!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!

Thankyou Mardi Gras......... you've made my year! Cant wait to dance all night in the Hordern.

Great to see Josh back again too! Hopefully she'll play it hard!

So who's going to Harbour Party this year? Or Sol Y Luna as NMG are calling it. Hopefully they'll be able to fix the problems the Azure left.

Yep agree

if only 1 of the DJ's plays a hard trance set I will forgive NMG for turning the Hordern over to trance
and DJ Josh used to play a harder set.

It's getting closer and closer........

Yes it is .....

Have you got your ticket yet ??

There are only 70 Days to Mardi Gras !!

There are only 70 Days to Mardi Gras !!

There are only 70 Days to Mardi Gras !!

There are only 70 Days to Mardi Gras !!

There are only 70 Days to Mardi Gras !!

There are only 70 Days to Mardi Gras !!

There are only 70 Days to Mardi Gras !!

There are only 70 Days to Mardi Gras !!

There are only 70 Days to Mardi Gras !!

There are only 70 Days to Mardi Gras !!

There are only 70 Days to Mardi Gras !!

There are only 70 Days to Mardi Gras !!

There are only 70 Days to Mardi Gras !!

There are only 70 Days to Mardi Gras !!

There are only 70 Days to Mardi Gras !!

There are only 70 Days to Mardi Gras !!

There are only 70 Days to Mardi Gras !!

There are only 70 Days to Mardi Gras !!

we are going to see M Cho
very excited about that.

We're going to see Ms Cho as well. Going with a group of 6 friends on the Thursday night. I am too very very excited about seeing her. Can never get enough Cho! What night are you going, Lil?

I jumped online to book Cindi Lauper, from the NMG link, but realised her main concert at the State Theatre in Sydney is on at 8pm 1st March- the exact same time the parade starts. So, tell me, how are her performances part of the NMG Festival, when her main concert (Sat nite) clashes with both the Parade and Party???
BTW- is she going to "pop in" to the party later that nite, say 2am or something, half exhausted??? If not, then who are the "headline" celebrities appearing for the 30th anniversary?? (at both the Parade [which Cindi can't attend] and Party?)

REALLY!!

This better not betrue this wa s areason I was so looking forward to the Party!

Hey gang...

found this story on poprepublic.tv - nice christmas prezzie!

May the bitching begin - lol!

http://poprepublic.tv/site/index.php?option=com_content&task=view&id=139

I have faith in JoSH. She's half of the "headlining" act and Ruby will bring the crowd up to a roaring peak.

JoSH has a reputation for playing hard, and the Hordern - whether it's trance or tribal - has a reputation for HARD, so I think we can have a bit of faith that she'll knock the BPM and the bass up.

By the time she comes on, the crowd will be pumping (and she will too).

Cyndi could always be doing the closing show... The bigger worry is that two other rumours that have leaked from the party committee (Kylie, ONJ) may actually be a plant, as the Lesser Minogue has just recorded a cover of 'Xanadu'. I begin to wonder...

"So, tell me, how are her performances part of the NMG Festival, when her main concert (Sat nite) clashes with both the Parade and Party???"

(oh dear)... she is actually playing 2 nights so you can either see her Friday or if you are not parade inclined you can see her Saturday.

And I doubt that her Saturday night show clashes with the Party given that her concert starts at 8pm and the party starts at 10pm.

Yep you can go Friday night.

Not all gays are interested in the Parade or the Party but they like to go out Sat night and still can enjoy
Cyndi.

Hex Hector - www.hexmusic.com & http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Hex_Hector
Paul Goodyear - www.paulgoodyear.com & www.myspace.com/djpaulgoodyear
Mike Kelly - www.djmikekelly.com & www.myspace.com/djmikekelly
Jack Chang - www.changmusic.com & www.myspace.com/djjackchang
Marty - www.myspace.com/marty_nz

Looks like I will be in the Hordern most of the night for the trance and lasers, but will check out Jack Chang in the Dome @ 3.30 am. Like his music on his website - dark and dirty.......hope its dark in the Dome on the night. NMG keep the lights down please.......

Spinning universal past, present and future dance anthems, dance remix sensation Hex Hector (New York) will be joined by Paul Goodyear (Barcelona).

Wasn't it Paul Goodyear (Sydney) until a few months ago?

"Wasn't it Paul Goodyear (Sydney) until a few months ago?"

Isn't it amazing how Marketing Departments can fudge information to suit a situation ?

"Wasn't it Paul Goodyear (Sydney) until a few months ago?"

Well I guess when someone moves to another country then technically they are from the city they now live in. Paul hasn't lived in Sydney for some time now.

given that he hasnt lived in sydney for nearly a year and doesnt live here, (he lives in barcelona) can you tell me:

1) which city they should place after his name ('formerly from sydney' doesnt count)
2) how long after you leave your hometown to live elsewhere, can you use your new home towns name.

From Same Ssame..

A little while ago we reported on a few rumours doing the rounds – particularly that both Dannii and Kylie would be performing at Mardi Gras’ 30th anniversary bash next year.

During a recent interview with DNA magazine, Kylie told them that she’d love to perform at Mardi Gras and hinted that both Minogues might be performing together at the party.

Kylie also asked DNA to take a poll on their website to find out which songs she and Dannii should sing individually, as well as together.

So far the tracks that are winning are On A Night Like This for Kylie, Put The Needle On It for Dannii and It’s Raining Men for the duet.

Paul has been living in Barcelona for about 6months now, before that he was in London for 1 year.

this has to be the most laughable posting/s.

Who cares !

If you live in a city for 6 months or 6 years or 50 years thats where you tell people you live.

I'm sure many of say we live in Sydney but come from other places.

When asked where you live do you say Sydney ? or do you say Sydney formerly Newcastle, previously Melbourne, born
Adelaide ?

Yes and Slide promoted Courtney Act "Direct From Europe" lol

I have no problems with interstate or internationals playing at the NMG party.

However when more than 50% of the announced DJ's are not from Sydney, I have to question NMGs commitment to local talent.

I always thought it was supposed to be the Sydney Gay & Lesbian Mardi Gras!

How do you get that figure? I actually come out with a figure that most of the DJs are local.

"I have no problems with interstate or internationals playing at the NMG party. However when more than 50% of the announced DJ's are not from Sydney, I have to question NMGs commitment to local talent. I always thought it was supposed to be the Sydney Gay & Lesbian Mardi Gras!"

I thought we were beyond this old arguement. In case you haven't noticed Mardi Gras is an international event in an international city.

Personally I can hear local DJ's any day of the week so for my hard earned dollars I want to hear some of the best from Australia mixed with some from overseas. If everyone around the world had your parochial attitude then none of our DJ's would ever get to play outside of Sydney.

Yeah and damned if they do and damned if they dont.

Regular club goers want to hear something new, those that dont club much want to hear locals they know and so on.

Think how huge this will be - big pop acts like Cyndi Lauper and The Young Divas (and Kylie and Dannii MInogue if my friends in Mardi Gras are to be believed), superstar DJs like Hex Hector, top quirky/arty acts like Margaret Cho and the party to end all parties. The eyes of the world will once again be on Sydney in February and it's all because of MArdi Gras - the straight people of this city should be thankful for us queers, we make Sydney a centre of world attention!!! I agree with the people saying there are too many straights at the Parade though - maybe it should have cordoned off areas that are ticketed so that we don't have to put up with dangerous straight drunk yobs - it is our parade after all. They could bring in the same ticketing process that they have for the party? Also, I'm not happy about the 8am closing time - FAR TOO EARLY. I always thought 10am should have been extended to midday but they are going the other way? What's next - 6am closing when everyone's still peaking? But apart from that, I AM EXCITED!

Also forgot to add, I think Brave New Worlds is a great theme. Our community has a history of being brave - despite the neverending violence on the strip every single night, we still go out and hold our heads high. We are showing bravery, not letting straight marauding yobs who invade our territory stop us. Nice to see a relevant theme this year, keep up the bravery everyone.

It seems I might be the only one a little bit disappointed with the DJ line-up for MG08. For some time now, people have been saying things to me like 'just wait till the 30th anniversary party...', 'it's going to be the best MG party ever', etc. So, I was expecting all the bells and whistles and at least one big name DJ for this party (especially after I found out the ticket price). Perhaps the kings of uplifting vocal trance, Above & Beyond, in the Horden? Or one of the big names in commercial house, such as David Guetta or Roger Sanchez, for the RHI? Nope. The biggest name is Hex Hector -who I'm sure was really got 7 or 8 years ago! :p In fact, it's really quite funny that 2 of the advertised 'internationals' were actually resident DJs in Sydney venues for many years and that the biggest name DJ (Offer Nissim) playing in Sydney that weekend is actually playing at the recovery party and not the main event. I really can't see what all you local DJ supporters are complaining about - there are more local DJs playing at this party than what you'd get at a similar-sized straight party...

Seems you are in the minority of those disappointed in the DJ line up . So accept it.

Offer Nissim has been proven to be not in the top 50.

You think David Guetta or Roger Sanchez should be playing but consider the majority who are happy with those selected.

9/10 International DJ's seem to end up disappointing our home crowd anyhow but appreciate that one in each hall is no big deal and gives regulars something different to listen/dance to.

I'm REALLY disappointed Hordern not its usual hard self but at least DJ Josh used to play it harder than that fluffy trance stuff , then will move into Dome.

perhaps nmg havent announced everything yet

"How do you get that figure? I actually come out with a figure that most of the DJs are local"

Murray Hood (Sydney)
Hex Hector (New York)
Paul Goodyear (Barcelona)
Ruby (Sydney)
DJ JoSH (Adelaide)
Marty (Auckland)
Peter Newton (Melbourne)
Sveta (Sydney)
Mike Kelly (Berlin)
Jack Chang (London)
Mandy Rollins (Sydney)
Katie Drover (Melbourne)
Eddie Coulter (Sydney)
GI Jode (Sydney)

14 DJ's announced with 8 listed as not based in Sydney. Simple mathmatics - 8 from 14 is more than 50%.

Darling, Mardi Gras is Sydney's gift to the world.

It belongs to the world now, and all you can think of is the number of local DJ's in the line-up.

OPEN UP your mind a little bit, hun. It's a brave new world!! Let's dare to be global for one party, hey?

There will also be two up and coming DJs in that line-up, w which bumps the local count to 8 out of 16. Plus since when was 'local' defined to only Sydney? There are plenty of Melbourne DJs in the lineup, plus two of the internationals are veterens of many, many previous MG parties.

"Plus since when was 'local' defined to only Sydney?"

Melbourne is not local.

Its like saying Darlinghurst is near Penrith.

i am osrry - "nissim" or whoever he is is a no body - maybe in some circles he is - but i thought it was a push even having him at homesexual - i for one dont know who he is - and although i may be uneducated, i am the "mainstream" punter that dj line ups and shows make a massive difference to my party ticket purchasing...

i for one think the dj line up for MG is pretty weak, but Hex Hector - with his trunk load of unique personal massive remixes is justification of the MG price tag alone!!!

I am just hpoing that the shows will b worth it too.... anyone else think its weird that other spaces have not been announced? (forum, fox n lion etc) i think MG may be holding off announcing any more space/djs/etertainment based on ticket sales.!

Just for the "uneducated", Offer Nissim is Hex Hector of the 21st century You may not know the name but if you've been to any mainstream club in the past few years, you would know his remixes.

"There will also be two up and coming DJs in that line-up, w which bumps the local count to 8 out of 16"

You're assuming they will be from Sydney. Based on this years line up I'd be surprised if many sydney dj's even make the spin off finals

2 djs from melburne is not 'plenty'.
one of them no one in the melb gay scene has ever heard of. she's never played in a gay venue or party before and is a minor player in the straigh scene as well. seems like a really strange choice.

"anyone else think its weird that other spaces have not been announced? (forum, fox n lion etc) i think MG may be holding off announcing any more space/djs/etertainment based on ticket sales.!"

I love these conspiracies that get thrown up every year.

It's actually quite normal for Mardi Gras to release information about the party in stages. It's a basic marketing technique to extend press coverage and therefore build ticket sales by slowly releasing information.

Out of interest in the old Mardi Gras days you weren't given any information before or even at the party about the entertainment or DJ set times except through the rumour mill.

As for ticket sales... sources say they are doing quite well with much interest from overseas.

From last weeks Mardi Gras email...

Members are able to purchase two tickets each to both Sol y Luna – Harbour 2008 and Mardi Gras Party 2008. To purchase your special priced members tickets, either flash your membership card at your local Ticketek agency or phone Ticketek directly and quote your membership number. Member’s tickets are just $100 for Sol y Luna and $120 for Mardi Gras Party 2008 and are available right up until the day of the event unless sold out earlier. Tickets to both of these events are selling fast!

Oh please

I dont even know who you are talking about but if someone has been chosen to play as an up and coming DJ doesnt that mean they new/green ? or as you put it a minor player ?
if they were established/known then they would not be an up and coming DJ.

So basically get over it. The DJ's have been chosen, you dont like it , you dont go.

No different to a movie or a play. You dont like it you dont go. You dont get on some board and whinge about it as its not going to change.

I consider Melbourne local. Just like how down in Melbourne, their parties use a lot of Sydney DJs (eg Red Raw, Winterdaze, Raw Hide, Evolution, Crash Palace, etc).

its not a whinge, its an observation. in the context of the post - i was talking about Katie Drover. It seems like a really strange choice given the many other djs (regardless of their sexuality and crowd they play to) in sydney and melbourne, or anywhere really, that have made contributions to the enjoyment of music in the gay/lesbian scene but not beeen selected. i thought this is what mardi gras was about - celebration of our community and those who contribute to the scene in someway, whether it be the local gay scene or interstate one. i am wondering what the reasoning behind her selection was, that is all.

who is offer nissim?
where is mark alsop?

mark alsop has been deejing in all over australia and internationaly for over 20 years. he was at the forefront of contributing to the hordern party scene in the late 80's and early nineties. he has produced and releesed his own music and done numerous remixes and he continues to play in the underground scene as well as playing more commercial house. i have been a huge fan for a long time, and cannot understand why, in the history of mardigras he has never been selected to play once. he has a loyal fan base and is a really nice guy. strange.

We are from Overseas and If we were to go back this year, the DJ line-up apart for the Dome is not to our liking. What is the big thing about inviting HEX HECTOR ? This guy was ok maybe 7 years ago when he was playing through America and Canada but having him in Sydney today as a Major DJ, I would not pay that price for him. Instead having some DJ`s like DJ Vibe (Portugal), D-Formation (Spain) or Chus and Ceballos (Spain) would give a real international flavour to the party. Big parties like yours could invite way much better up to date DJ`s.

and if they chose someone else, then there would be another poster asking why he/she was picked.

NMG just cant win.

Maybe the top 10 DJ's are out of Mardi Gras price range.

Maybe the locals are happy to hear someone from overseas even if they are only in the top 100.

If you're basing the whole party on missing just 1 big name international DJ then you totally miss the whole Mardi Gras experience.

I've been to many an overseas party and while there are those that beat the pants of Mardi Gras when it comes to what happens within the Hall like the DJ's/lighting , absolutely nothing I have come across beats the atmosphere of the Party. Walking around between the Halls perving on the bodies, the fantastic atmosphere that is created cannot be beaten in my opinion. Most parties are a Hall and everything is happening inside and nothing outside.

Considering how many DJ's there are I think anyone would be hard pressed not to be able to get at least 2 DJ's they enjoy throughout the night.

Sydney at this time of the year cannot be beaten. The Mardi Gras Festival cannot be beaten also.

To base not coming to Sydney cause there is not 1 "name" DJ is laughable to me.

Actually the $150 is for Non-NMG members.

Members pay only $120 and $100 for concession, which I think is very reasonable considering the level of entertainment on offer.

It is usual common policy for non-members of any organisation to pay more.

This would be a brilliant opportunity to show genuine participation and support for NMG by becoming a member for $45.

It will also demonstrate genuine commitment to an organisation that is made up of people like US!


Regards,
Thomas

Unfortunately it is impossible to please everyone.

NMG has to operate within the available financial resources.

Some of these DJ's charge very high fees,which only the larger European and Amercian markets can accommodate.

We should also understand that Australia is still a far flung destination and some of these Top DJ's are not prepared to travel such long distances for only a few performances.

Travelling (Example) from Munich to Amsterdam on a 50 minute flight is preferrable to more than 20 hours of non-productivity in a flight to Sydney or Melbourne.

I would ask all those who are disatisfied to become members of NMG.

It is through your financial contributions there by enabling NMG to recruit those high dollar DJ's.

Please consider

Regards,
Thomas

I reckon this will be the biggest party for 10 years. All the people who stopped going to parties will come for this one, to thank MG (and now NMG) for what they have done for us. There will be lots of people in their 50s and 60s which will give the evening a welcoming community feel. Lots of gorgeous young people will be there too!

"I reckon this will be the biggest party for 10 years. All the people who stopped going to parties will come for this one, to thank MG (and now NMG) for what they have done for us. There will be lots of people in their 50s and 60s which will give the evening a welcoming community feel."

I'm only 41 and I'm treating Mardi Gras 2008 as my final dance party ever. I not silly enough to be wheeled around a party when i'm in my 50's and 60's thank u

i dont really agree with that - The Market in melbounre regularly fly out big name internationals - who mostly play exclusively at The Market as theor only appearance, and they charge $15-$20 on the door - some time $30.
David Morales is playing at the Market in a few weeks and nowhere else.
If a club that holds 800 people can do it - why not mardi gras party. David Morales would have been amazing at Mardi Gras (just as an example)

"I'm only 41 and I'm treating Mardi Gras 2008 as my final dance party ever."? Oh sweetheart, lift that foot out of the grave and keep breathing. Perhaps if you went to the gym a few days a week your carcass won't need to be wheeled around anywhere. Life is for living! What if Mardi Gras 2009 turned out to be the best one ever - with the most perfect DJ line-up in history - and you weren't there?

I must say I think Mardi Gras have got it right. I just hope their momentum sustains them through until the final parade marcher has fallen on their arses from exhaustion, and the last person leaves the Hordern with a smile on their faces.

The artwork/website this year is great, the line-up appears to be spot on, it is the 30th year, and they're making changes to the usual festival that shows it's evolving and changing - certainly an exciting time for the organisation.

Here's hoping the party sends everyone sky high.

Looking forward to it (and Toybox the next day. Going to be an awesome weekend!).

I can also think of plenty of times when Homesexual (eg Rauhofer and many others) or Shift (eg Tony Moran, Chris Cox, DJ Paulo) or Arq (eg Matt Darey) or Ruby (eg Above & Beyond, Lange, Space Brothers) have brought out bigger name DJs than those who are playing at MG party next year. Yes, it would not be as cheap as hiring local DJs, but it is not completely out of NMG's price range - especially when you're charging $150 per ticket for the average punter. I'm glad that local talent is being supported (although there is definitely a very vocal group, perhaps a disgruntled DJ or two, who still feel the locals have been hard done by). However, not everyone who comes to MG comes from Sydney. I no longer live in Australia and I can tell you that having a big name or two on the line-up would lead to MUCH more international interest. Several people I know who were thinking of coming back for MG were very meh when they saw the line-up, especially given the hype has led us to believe that this will be the ultimate MG party. Despite what some insular Sydney queens think, there are plenty of good parties and venues in the UK and US, and especially in Europe, so there has to be something special to attract people to come. I guess it depends what NMG and their members want at their party - lots of local faces will lots of familiar community DJs and performers or something a bit more daring (or brave, shall we say) with some of the worlds best DJs/performers and a more diverse international crowd?

Having been clubbing in Melbourne for over 10 years and being involved in running events in melbourne - I have never heard of Katie Drover and neither has anyone else that I know. That is a very curious choice.

"I have never heard of Katie Drover and neither has anyone else that I know. That is a very curious choice."

Sounds more dubious than curious if you ask me.

This reminds me of Mardi Gras 1996 when the party committee was conned by a person from the UK called "Guy Delicious" who submitted an (on paper) impressive resume and application to play at the party.

The committee blindly accepted the resume without doing any background checks and employed him to DJ the middle set in the Hordern promoting him as the big name overseas DJ for the party.

It was subsequently found that his resume was a heap of lies and the only experience he had as a DJ was from his bedroom !

From all accounts his set was pretty ordinary and he couldn't mix to save his life. One thing I do know is that the DJ who followed after him (Lexie Bradfield) was absolutely fuming by the end of her set cause Delicious had over run and over heated all of the equipment causing the foldback monitor to blow up.

I hope we don't have another imposter in our midst for the 2008 party. I would think the party committee circa 2007 would be a bit more professional than was the case in 1996... we shall see.

One thing I do believe is that to settle things down when DJ's are announced NMG should provide a bio on their website on each DJ describing where and for how long they have played.

Anyway , thats all from me.

A favourite amongst Melbourne's punters, Katie currently holds an enviable list of residencies, knocking out the goods at One Six One, Mixed Messages, Mink, The Lounge and Melbourne's biggest Saturday night club, Famous. Her ever-growing popularity also ensures she's a regular at Revolver, Tickled Pink, Room, The Saint and Revival, with massive appearance at Godskitchen in 2006 ensuring she has the dancefloor's seal of approval.

Her big name support slots are no less impressive, having been billed alongside the likes of Roger Sanchez, Princess Superstar, Felix da Housecat, Nick Warren, Paolo Mojo, Steve Porter and Sebastien Leger to name just a few. A recent gig support slot alongside German legends Spirit Catcher at One Six One was a massive career highlight.

An artist whose passion for dance music spreads far and wide, Katie also hosts 'The Halfway Show' on Kiss FM every Wednesday at 2pm, alongside Sam Fraser and Keltec, with the trio dropping the finest homegrown and international slices of dance each week. Drover also contributes monthly mixes to Luke Chable's Melburn FM show on Proton Radio.

I've heard of Hex Hector. I've heard of Roger Sanchez. I haven't heard of many of the other DJs that are being proposed. I am not a regular clubber. Many who go to MG are not regular clubbers. Hex Hector is big enough for me.

Revenues and costs are different between dance parties, nightclubs/licensed venues. Eg at a big dance party, equipment needs to be bumped in, which is expensive. You do not have this cost when running a normal club night. Also with nightclubs, they will often have a cover charge AND they take the bar revenue. This is not always the case with dance parties, as I believe the bars at MG are operated by Playbill. Not arguing for or against any particular case, I'm just saying that the costings for dance parties and normal club nights can't be compared exactly together.

41 and your last party dont want to be wheeled around in your 50's/60's ???????????????????????

Hun, I'm 52 , go to the gym 4-5 times per week, am not a muscle mary, just toned and not overweight. Walk 2-3 times per week , dont smoke, hardly drink and only party
"hard" at these events and reckon am in better condition than a lot of 30/40s

So dont stick yourself in the grave cause you're in your
40's ! I'm still having the best time at these parties
and last to the wee hours quite well.

What y'all are forgetting about bringing in big name DJs is that Mardi Gras is not a nightclub. The cost of building a MG party from the ground up is astronomical and there are also performers by the dozen to be considered. Yeah, you can have six of the biggest DJs working at the moment for next year's party - but as for the lighting and lasers etc, well, you'll be dancing in the dark. So, as long as you don't mind. Just sayin'...

So Katie plays most of Melbourne's straight venues - good for her. They are all good straight venues that she plays at.

How nice that her G&L debut is at Mardi Gras 30th anniversary party.

That is bizarre.

not only is it bizzare, but i can think of countless other melbourne djs - one in particular - peter mcnamara - who is equally revered by those in melbourne's straight scene and has played alongside just about every major international house and trance dj to visit melbourne, as well as every club and party in melbourne (just about). he has also played many mardigras and sleaze parties and continues to play some of the best house events (gay and straight) in melbourne - why choose someone like katie over him - just as an example. i am trying to work out what the reasoning for selecting katie drover is. its truly bizaare. maybe after her sydney MG debut, she can debut in melburne as well. he resume is stock standard for a straight scene dj - there are countless others who could appear the same on paper from melbourne and probably have at least more of a presence in the gay scene as well.

So NMG wanted a female house DJ in the forecourt and chose Katie Drover from Melbourne. A unknown factor to many. Why not choose Kate Monroe?

So NMG wanted a male trance DJ in the Hordern and chose "Marty" from NZ. Another unknown factor to many.

Not sure who is in charge this year but one would think that the year that you really want to impress you would have some of the biggest G+L DJ's in the country playing, not some new people who people have not heard off?

In my personal opinion there are some massive DJ's missing from this years party such as Alex Taylor, Kate Monroe, Stephen Allkins, Luke Leal, Jake Kilby, Feisty, Shigeki, Greg Boladian, Rob Davis - I could go on.

I think its sad that some of the above DJ's who shaped what we have are missing from the main party, sure there isn't enough time but why waste what limited time we do have with some "new" DJs' we have never heard of.

Time for a shake up in the DJ selection committee perhaps?

Retiring at 41 oh my god!!! Then I should be in the grave seeing as I am 52 years old. I am not ready for the beige cardigan and slippers just yet thanks. And tend to keep on partying for as long as I feel up yo it. Have already got my tix for Mardi Gras, Toybox and Homesexual parties so will be keeping up with the best of them.

Like other posters have said get to the gym 4 times a week, walk as much as you can, keep fit and eat healthy to prolong your life style. Thats what I do and feel a lot healthier now then when I was younger.

Bring on Mardi Gras and we oldies will give you younguns a run for ya money.....

can anyone help please? i cannot work out this one...

p goodyear has been playing MG for years. bringing us his circuit commercial divas (how 2002) and downbeat tribal year after year.
30th MG is advertised as something special. what is so special about having p goodyear this year (as the one before, and before, and before......and before...) again?
obviously europe doesn't keep that busy if he can stay from jan till march. i wouldn't mind a nice holiday in europe - shame i dont know any "board members" there

No way Jose!

I'm going on 50 and still get goose bumps at the idea of dance parties.

For me the motto is harder is better.

Or may be it's the roids...Hmmmm..must ponder on that!!??

Muscle-Hump Daddy.....grrrrr

Isn't Mardi Gras' slogan 'Brave New Worlds' - hence they are heading in this direction with the DJ line up and party production. Wait until you have attended the party, then you can give a criteque afterwards on the quality of the dj's and party.

I for one think NMG have done well in the line up of dj's and the mix of music styles being covered in the various venues. If one dj is not to your liking move to another venue or chill out in the grounds.

I know I will spend most of the night in the Hordern but also want to check out Jack Chang in the Dome and hang out outside to check out the crowd. So will move around quiet a bit and find something to enjoy myself all night long. Isn't this whatthe party is all about.

Let's all take a new years eve resolution and stop the bitching until after the party.

Happy New Years Eve and Happy Mardi Gras everyone.

he's flying to san fransisco, melbourne and auckland in between nye and mg to play there.
seems like he's busy to me.
BUT i agree, i think given the amount of times he's played in sucession at mardi gras - maybe another dj could have got a shot, however - he's a great disco dj and i think we might be seeing something quite different from pg this mg.

So NMG wanted a male trance DJ in the Hordern and chose "Marty" from NZ. Another unknown factor to many

i find it very interesting that marty from nz is also the events organiser for the Hero party in NZ - which runs the week before mardi gras. Paul goodyear is also playing Hero the week before mardi gras.
something to think about.
No wonder people are disillusioned at the dj selection process. to suggest djs are paranoid or sour grapes is downright insulting.

Paul Goodyear is perfect for the RHI for this 'something special' 30th celeb. He's an extraordinary DJ who produces his own tracks (mixes, remixes, edits, re-edits, dubs etc.)-- think fresh/original -- and whose mixing skills are plainly impeccable. As far as Sydney DJ's go, he is in a class of his own and he ain't a boring jukebox!!

Plus.....I don't know of any other DJ who can make that crappy RHI sound system sound decent. Paul is a talented sound engineer and he has played that hall many, many times in the past it is his natural party home for his big room sounds. We are in safe hands and he will deliver.

Go Paul! Bring it on!!!

"In my personal opinion there are some massive DJ's missing from this years party such as Alex Taylor, Kate Monroe, Stephen Allkins, Luke Leal, Jake Kilby, Feisty, Shigeki, Greg Boladian, Rob Davis - I could go on. I think its sad that some of the above DJ's who shaped what we have are missing from the main party, sure there isn't enough time but why waste what limited time we do have with some "new" DJs' we have never heard of."

"No wonder people are disillusioned at the dj selection process. to suggest djs are paranoid or sour grapes is downright insulting."


Re comment number 1 - these DJ's were all once given the chance to play their first Mardi Gras and many have since gone on to play several. If we were never allowed to hear new DJ's, by your logic, then Alex, Kate, Stephen, Luke, Jake, Feisty, Shigeki, Greg, Rob etc would never been given the chance either! And while I love some of the DJ's suggested I have been to enough parties with them headlining so it's time for something new.

Re comment number 2 - who and how many people are disillusioned? Or is it just you that we are talking about? Personally I am very happy with this years line up and think its great that Mardi Gras didn't lock themselves in to the party becoming homage to DJ's from the past.

The gripes about the "DJ selection process" are getting tiresome and should have been left behind with the relic of the old Mardi Gras. If you're a DJ and didn't get picked - get over yourself. If you don't like the DJ's to the extent that it will ruin your night - don't go.

About 4-5 months ago i heard from a reliable source on the party committee that the footprint for the MG 2008 party was to celebrate all those that had made Mardi Gras what it is today. It was of interest to me at the time that the committee had decided that they were going to invite all of the old skool DJ's who have contributed to Mardi gras over the 30 years of its existance and they were going to ask DJ's who had made big contributions to the Sydney scene over the years who are no longer DJ'ing full time to play a set.

The idea gave me goosebumps - Asking back for one night only DJ's like Steve Carley, Lexie Bradfield, Rob Davis , Steve Alkins , Steve Bloomfield , Mrk Alsop , David Hiscock , Sean Manley ... all of these fabulous DJ's who havent played at a MG party for years and years.

Seems as though that idea got squashed. I wonder why ?

you have taken the comment out of context. i was referring to the post which claimed that two dj choices for this years mardigras were 'odd'. noted that marty - who was referred to in the original post - heads the production company that runs Hero in NZ. I also noted that paul ws playing Hero. i then went on to say that i thought it was 'interesting' - which it is (in my oppinion) and I beleive that it is a direct result of the current selection process. there are many people (dj and non djs alike) who feel this way. this is evidenced by postings on this board and general discussion amongst my friends - some oof who are djs, some of whom work in the industry and others who are simply 'punters'. to suggest or belittle the oppinion that clearly is held by more that just a couple of random people - re the selection process - is a little insulting.

"reliable source"

right. so some unsubstantiated rumour mongering from an anonymous poster quoting an anonymous source suddenly becomes 'fact' with the 'idea got squashed'.

honestly, this discussion becomes more laughable by the minute.

Trance all night in the Hordern - Booooooooooooooo
bring back the hard stuff

that said

I do agree about the DJ process getting very tiresome. It happens with every single party without a doubt and yet the last few parties have shown that NMG have redeemed themselves and know how to put on a good show ( with the exception of changing my beloved Horderns style )

Its easy to say this is from disgruntled DJ's and if nots not then it still makes out it is .

I have never understood this DJ bashing before an event. Is this something new with todays society ? bash them shit out of them before you have even heard them play ?
Wait till after the event and do a I told you so.

How would these posters feel about their own work if they were suddenly told they were not suited, that they are old has beens or that others think they wont do a good job of it ???????????????????????????????

Its easy to say but it does apply, when the DJ's are announced if you dont like the line up, show them what you think by not attending.

DJ's have feelings like the rest of us and I feel sorry for them the way you posters whine over the DJ selection, or this DJ slept with someone on the committee or this DJ hasnt played a party. Always a conspiracy theory worthy
of an X-Files script.

If you are sooooooooooooooo passionate about the selection guess what ? you can do something about it by volunteering for the Selection committee - just ask JGirl.

So leave off till after the party and if you're proven wrong then why not come back on here and apologise ? wont happen I know.

-
-
-
-
-
-
There are only 60 Days to Mardi Gras !!

There are only 60 Days to Mardi Gras !!

There are only 60 Days to Mardi Gras !!

There are only 60 Days to Mardi Gras !!

There are only 60 Days to Mardi Gras !!

There are only 60 Days to Mardi Gras !!

There are only 60 Days to Mardi Gras !!

There are only 60 Days to Mardi Gras !!

There are only 60 Days to Mardi Gras !!

There are only 60 Days to Mardi Gras !!

There are only 60 Days to Mardi Gras !!

There are only 60 Days to Mardi Gras !!

I think you will actally find it is Damon from Norwest who manages to make the crappy RHI sound good.

He's the sound enginner, Paul and any of the other DJ's are just visiting talent.

I am sure all the DJ's that use an appropriate well tuned system will sound just fine.

Remember a chunk of your ticket price for the Mardi Gras Party and Sleaze party also go towards running the parade, fair day, MG Office etc.

well as the fairday crowd has been so sniffy about the parade and party lately, let them eat cake and pay their own way!

Been saying that for a long time now especially a few years back when the party/lighting was cut back and quite basic.

Also had a few workmates do the sniffy thing of " We dont do the Party anymore" and the real comment " We do all the free events ".

So agree stop the free ride.

I think something along the lines of say $5 bucket drop per person ?

I have to agree that party subsidizing Fairday is a bit of a joke. In the past Fairday has turned a profit. Why is it that for that last few years it has run at a loss?

This must be the only event in sydney that serves alcohol and runs at a loss.

Well now the New Years Eve/Day partying is over it's time to look forward to Mardi Gras festival and parties. Less then 60 days to go, I can't wait.
Back to gym now to lose those extra kilos put on over xmas, eating healthier and getting lots more sleep in readiness.
See you all there on the dancefloor in March.

Bout time they had a hall dedicated to TRANCE!! you cant get your own way every year... i wont be pissed off thats for sure I love trance and after years & years of not getting it im thrilled...

If dont believe that 4000+ people would be pissed off at all .. people are capable of liking different music types and we all have our favourites of course...

HORDERN = TRANCE (Bout time and thank you NMG)

Congrats on the POSTER for MG 30th YEAR!! its fantastic....
I have my tix for the party and cant wait... also thanks again for recognizing us TRANCE fans.. there are ALOT of us trust me the Hordern will go OFF!!!

All you negative NMG bashers out there just get over it and enjoy the party
and stop being so greedy re; the Hordern you cant have your own way all the time....

Thanks again NMG team you try hard i know and deserve alot more praise than you ever get on pinkboard...

come on people start being positive for a change and just go with the flow!

HAPPY 30th to Mardi Gras... lets party....

oh and a special congrats to RUBY for playing this year and also to Marty from NZ he is also a great DJ..

cheers SBW

And happy New Year to you too Countdownboy. I hear from a little blackbird that you have some exciting plans for 2008!

Hordern = Hard

and wont get over it

Hey RBW

please read back on the posts. Lots are positive about the party just dont lump us with the negative nellies.

The 3rd and final Margaret Cho show is now on sale!

I think its a pretty big coup for Mardi Gras to secure the world premiere of her new show. For those that haven't experienced her before I suggest you do yourself a favour and snatch up a ticket while they are still available. She is the f'ing funniest commedian I've ever seen.

BND, with all respect, and much humility, it is the design and the supplier, Norwest, that has worked hard, as did JPS for many of the earlier years, to make the RHI sound as good as possible.

I have only had a minimal input regarding general eq ideas and DJ liason etc for the room given its growing EPA restrictions as the years have gone on.

Thank you though....

did people not read the info on Katie? seriously...

if she is a lesbian and she works at straight venues of the calibre the bio info mentioned, then she is clearly hot sh#t as to get a go in such parties for a gay girl is not common. to the bashers, listen to her radio show and check her out then let us know what you think when INFORMED personally

if we are complaining because she is not lesbian then this is another issue. this has always been an issue... reverse equal rights is not cool in my book, but people here seem to think being gay is the only important thing when referring to those who entertain them in a gay dance party unless they are roger sanchez etc.

or Paul Goodyear ?

any others ?

and I dont care what they do in bed ! so long as their music is great.

i think the complaint is that she is not the hot shi!t. there are dozens of katie drovers working the same venues in melbourne. why her over them? in fact i can think of 2 off hand, who not only have or continue to work on the same radio station katies does, play at most of the same parties and venues (or more) AND unlike katie, have a musical presence in the gay scene in melbourne. surely you would want to select a dj that has contributed to the gay scene in some way - otherwise what is the connection between her and the crowd? its not about her sexuality - its about her relevence. being able to dj - even if it's very good - is not enough in my book. imagine if MG had booked a whole lot of djs you had never heard of, but are prolific or 'big' in their little niche in the straight scene. it wouldnt be appealing - there has to be something more than just being able to deliver a set. paul goodyear has been seminal in contrubuting to the gay scene all over australia - in particular, melb and syd. as have others such a neal crwaford and jojo.

Oh get over it will you.

She is in the up and coming DJ area.

Someone has to be picked and for whatever reason she was chosen.

I am sure there a many up and coming DJ's who feel they should have been picked but accept that they weren't,just like they can accept when they dont get a gig.

Thats how it works so accept it. If you truly ? feel so compassionate about it then join NMG or volunteer on the committee choosing DJ's but getting on here whinging about it wont get you anywhere.
You could show how upset you are by not going.

Are you a friend of someone that missed out ? thats how it sounds.

The other avenue to voice your concern about the selection process is at the AGM. There is always a time for questions at the AGM for members.

Of course no one has bothered to do this. They only want to whinge anonymously.

I for one can't wait for Mardi Gras. The Dj line up looks hot and my beloved trance has returned to the Hordern... yay!

Now who is going to perform? The usual rumours are floating around not helped by Kylies recent interview saying she would love to be there with Dannii.

The other way to show your displeasure of the DJ selection antics is to not financially support Mardi Gras in anyway.

This is an option a number of dj friends of mine are choosing this year. We know not all of us can be selected but to have unknowns being shipped in from interstate and overseas is nothing but a slap in the face to the local DJ's.

I'm all for having internationals as well as up & coming DJs in the line up. I firmly believe to justify the expense of flying in an international or interstate DJ, they should have a solid reputation in the industry and some presence on the gay scene. Up & coming DJ's have the spin off comp they can apply to enter, which is more than any established local DJ have.

To hire these unknown interstate/international DJ's the expense of any number of established locals such as Mark Alsop (as mentioned above and on every graffitti wall for every NMG party in the past few years), is a disgrace.

Even more so for the 30th anniversary. This should be a line up of big names. Unfortunately this isn't what we've been given this time (in my opinion of course).

If the organisation runs into financial trouble in future years (again), guess who they'll ask to bail them out at the cheapest possible price? That's right, the same locals who they've shafted in favour of these unknowns.

My group of friends all going to MG this year. Last few years half have quit going due to work or relationship etc but this year they are all busting for it. One even bought his ticket yesterday.

But we are all bemoaning the change of style for the Hordern.

Wish they had another venue for the trance people. The Hordern cannot be beaten for its harder edge stuff and beats me why they changed seeing as the Hordern has always been packed for years as their are a lot of lovers of hard. Oh well maybe back next year.

Well you are entitled to your opinion and your actions.

For me the Intl DJ's dont rate nor have they been overly successful.

I wish people would get of Katie's case. Your interpretation of how an up and coming DJ should be selected counts for zero. What experience do you have ?
At the least the working group who chose would have some experience amongst them. Its their choice and as they say the judges choice is final . Accept it.

As for Sydney DJ's missing out. Well I for one would want to here DJ's from other cities not the same old same old I hear in Sydney - and no offence to these DJ's , it is just nice to have a mix. Also the man who's baby I want to have - Rob Gilbert - comes from Melbourne and my friends and I LOVE his music so I am glad I found him.

Its a good mix of Sydney and interstate DJ's. Again your idea of what the mix should be has differed by what the committee decided on.

Actually I dont care what city, what sex, what orientation they are so long as they play great.

Has Mark Alsop applied for all these Mardi Gras he has missed out on ? or was he expecting to get a gig on reputation alone ? or did he have a dummy spit after a few years of not getting a slot and hasnt bothered applying since ? I dont know, do you ? is he still good ?
he was back before he quit the whole scene.

trance vs hard/tribal. let's see - toybox parties in the past like lumiere have had attendances in the thousands not to mention the ruby parties at arq and the midnight shift whilst the main venue for harder/tribal stuff has become phoenix which must have a legal limit of a couple of hundred patrons at the most. don't be fooled folks by the tribal fans - they may be loud and vocal and critical of not getting the horden but come mardi gras night they will be far outweighed in number by the trance fans (and your regular house/electronic groupies who have found that deeper plane of existence) who will be in blissful heaven when the horden is going off with soul-inspiring trance and those gorgeous vocals. good on mardi gras for taking the party and the venues back to basics like in the old days.
p.s. saw tina on thursday night - she is a goddess. maybe they could get her for the party and she could do a dance remix of love hangover.

You cant compare Oxford St venues nor day parties to what they have been playing in the Hordern.

Dont get me wrong, of course it will be crowded just as it would if they play House etc.

I have been going to these parties for 20 years now and the best thing about the Hordern is it was always the leading edge of faster and/or harder styles.

The Hordern played Trance years ago when trance was big but the Hordern kept moving on and there were sets of
Hardhouse or Hard NRG and for last few years a mix of
Hard and/or Tribal which has been great.

Not all party goers are regular Oxford St people.

So you and lots of others may think its great to step back in time with all those vocal trance songs.

As pointed out by other posters and from my memory. I have seen the RHI not too crowded, seen Dome not too crowded but can only remember the Hordern being packed with the exception of a few Intl DJ sets but once they were off , it was packed.

So if the Hordern is full ,dont claim that Hard is dead.

Well, I suppose all the carping helps fills the space here till the Party! I mean, what else is there to say about something that hasn't actually happened yet?

What should Kylie and Dannii sing (assuming they are performing)? Vote here http://www.dnamagazine.com.au/default.asp?section_id=303&c=53928

"Has Mark Alsop applied for all these Mardi Gras he has missed out on ? or was he expecting to get a gig on reputation alone ? or did he have a dummy spit after a few years of not getting a slot and hasnt bothered applying since ?"

This gets back to the whole argument which has been raging for years. DJ's can NO LONGER APPLY TO PLAY AT THE PARTY.

The line up is now selected in secret with no established criteria in place and at each party since they started doing this, accusations of nepotism have arisen.

This is supposed to be a celebration of 30 years of Mardi Gras so instead of established names from the sydney or even australian scene, we get unknowns who have no credentials within the gay community.

You mention Rob Gilbert, so where the hell is he on this line up? He's rocked every time he's played in Sydney and has supported the gay scene in both cities for years, but has been overlooked for some unknown reason. He does deserve to play at this party and is one of many ommissions from this party that should have been there. Another is Seymour Butz. In fact there's not a single bear DJ this time around. Lets hope Bad Dog or WoofClub run an event on the same night and cater for the bear community seeing as Mardi Gras has chosen to ignore them this year.

What a good way to celebrate 30 years of the community by excluding a very large section of it! As per usual the bears will probably be one of the biggest and most popular participants in the parade but they've been shut out of the party!

nonsense.....the shift has been packed for tribal before, as has the Horden.

"What a good way to celebrate 30 years of the community by excluding a very large section of it! As per usual the bears will probably be one of the biggest and most popular participants in the parade but they've been shut out of the party!"
If a bear DJ isn't playing the party, does that necessarily mean they're excluding them? I think that the bears will be well catered for musically in somewhere like the Dome where things are dark and dirty... There's no drag queen DJ either in this year's line-up but I also don't think that necessarily means that Mardi Gras are excluding them per se... I do agree that it's probably a good idea to bring back the DJ submission that once was, however, I would think (and this is just my opinion, not anything I've been told) that it's probably a time issue, more than anything else... listening to every submission would take ages, one would think... certainly more time than having a few meetings/discussions/brain-storming sessions.
PS, I've just found set times for the DJs on the MG website, not sure if you've all seen them, so here they are... (looks like I'll miss most of Sveta's set.) http://www.mardigras.org.au/calendar_detail.cfm?id=225

Mardi Gras
You're 30!
Don't worry Peter Pan
With hearts like ours you'll never get old

I for one am looking forward to a great party AND FESTIVAL!

Hi Murray we are going on the Wednesday night

G'day JGirl, with all due respect there's a lot more bears than drag queens around. Taking a look at the festival there's even nothing there for bears this year.

As for the time factor in selecting dj's, the problem with just having brain storming sessions is that only dj's known to those in the discussions will ever be discusses. While the submission process is flawed as well, at least it appears as though all those who express interest would be considered on merits, not considered just because they're friends with someone on the panel.

"This gets back to the whole argument which has been raging for years. DJ's can NO LONGER APPLY TO PLAY AT THE PARTY. The line up is now selected in secret with no established criteria in place and at each party since they started doing this, accusations of nepotism have arisen."

This whole arguement is just nonsense. No other major dance party in Australia has such a DJ submission process. So some Sydney DJ's missed out. So what. There are only 26 DJ spots so there will always be some disgruntled DJ who missed out complaining of nepotism.

Mardi Gras is an international event and we deserve to have international DJ's and talent from across Australia. I personally think Mardi Gras has got a winner with the line up this year and there is still so much more to be announced.

Oh and if you really want to change the process you ahould become a NMG member and raise it at the AGM. If you are not a member I really don't see how you can have a say in any process.

I'll agree with one thing on your posting ie the music styles preferred by "bears". Also I am not a bear and complete opposite to a bear
For whatever reason they dumped Horderns harder edge music which bears and their friends alway filled the floor space in Hordern and Dome.

Trance fans will go on to say that look at all the Toybox and Luminere and Ruby parties for popularity of Trance but hey add them all up and they would still not fill the Hordern. Its always been a packed floor in the Hordern and Dome.

So what happens to the displaced Hordern fans ? they wont all fit into Dome and Dome "could" become too packed and way too hot. Of course Hordern would be still packed but more thought should have gone as to where they would go as Dome will not be big enough to cater for them.
If you like your Hard stuff you will be more likely to head to Dome than say RHI or hang around in the Hordern for that vocal stuff no offence guys/girls.

I dont see how you can discount Sveta, Mike Kelly, Mandy Rollins as bear DJ's ? As for Rob Gilbert not playing, of course I'm sad but I would not want to listen to him at every party and he has played a number of them in last year or so. Or you saying you only consider male only
DJ's bear DJ's ?

This DJ debate thing is really quite stupid. Moaning about it on here will not change a thing. Its easy to say if you feel so strongly about it then volunteer to work on that committe etc but most wont. Just cause they do it a different way to what you think doesnt mean its wrong.

Looking at the DJ's there are are good mix of names we know from the past and current, some overseas DJ's. What more can you possibly want ? you cannot have your own
personal favourite DJ's playing ( I'm not whining on here about the exclusion of Rob Gilbert ).

I mean if you want to get ugly , why are there no DJ's from Perth or Adelaide or Brisbane ? why are there 2 up and coming DJ's from Sydney and only 1 from Melbourne, why are there only 4 female DJ's ?????????????
For me I dont care, I dont care what sex they are , dont care what sexuality they are, what city they are from, old or new , just so long as they are good and the only way you are going to know that is not via your crystal ball but after the event is over.

Bears like the vocal girly cheese just as much as metallica. Genetic coincidence has nothing to do with taste in music! Bears will be all over the party!

NMG have chosen the DJ's they want to play at Mardi Gras Party. I personally think they have got a good mix and the music styles will cater for all party goers. On the night you will see all halls packed with happy faces enjoying themselves. Especially in the Hordern, now that Trance will be played all night there.

It's time to move on from bemoaning about the method employed in NMG's dj selection. They have every right to choose in what ever manner they want. There will be plenty of alternate and after parties at various venues for those dj's not selected to play at.

To me the party is more then the DJ, this demi-god status afforded them is rediculous - hello it is just a job they are doing!!!

Bring on Mardi Gras Party for us all to celebrate and to have fun with our friends and visitors on the night.

"This gets back to the whole argument which has been raging for years. DJ's can NO LONGER APPLY TO PLAY AT THE PARTY."

This is like every other party in Sydney, and probably most parties in the world. I don't know of any parties that ask for DJ submissions.

The submission process was fraught with problems. It was costly for DJs (requiring APRA fees, etc), difficult and time consuming for the selectors (who listens to over a 100 hours of music and how do you objectively rate those DJs) and full of legal hurdles (recording music, even for demo purposes requires all sorts of licenses). The current selection process, while possibly flawed, avoids a lot of these issues.

If anyone can suggest how to overcome these problems then please contribute your thoughts.

NMG have made commercial decisions to employ DJs and performers who they think are commercially-valuable. DJs and performers who they think will sell tickets. That's what it boils down to.

So what happens to the displaced Hordern fans? They won't all fit into the Dome which could become too packed and way too hot.

No way ... the Dome is at its best when people are packed really tight. Nothing better than sweaty skin on sweaty skin...

I so hope that they are! That would complete my night!

I would hope that Kylie would perform:

Spinning Around

On a Night Like This

Butterfly

Celebration

and that Dannii would perform:

This is It

Put the Needle on It

Ummmmmmmmmmmm Paul D agree but you miss the point......

Hordern holds what 5,000'ish ? Dome already has its usual style playing so its fans will be there. The overflow wont all fit in Dome unfortunately.

I know Trance is popular but seeing as say Forum not being used wouldnt it have been better to start Trance of
there ? and correct me if I'm wrong but whenever I've visited RHI in the middle of the night it certainly sounded like Trance was being played ? or a close cousin.

I just wonder was it ever considered if NMG changing a popular Halls music style just where did they expect them to go to ? Its not like they could skip the party and go to say a Toybox is it.

Sure the Trance people got on the walls and quite vocal about not going to a Mardi Gras or not going to a Sleaze over the last few years as no Trance etc but the loyal fans of Horderns style just got dumped ! so much for being loyal to NMG.

I think everyone should cut the whinging about the decision to put trance in for MG and just wait n see and goto the party with the mind set to enjoy themselves

I like all types of music so will be wandering around as I always do...

Yeah, I'm with you annonymous! I just love a DJ who can make me dance and give me the shivers... I don't mind too much about what style they're playing. I'll be doing the wander around as well... yay for the choices we have! Yay for our 30th anniversary! Hoorah for Mardi Gras! :D
Poo to it being Sunday night...

As a previous poster said NMG make decisions based on commercial viability i.e. who will sell the most tickets based on current trends. This is the same process that all clubs and other parties use to ensure that they sell the most tickets and at least break even if not make money. In the past DJs have sent in "demo CD's" - with current technology anyone can do this. NMG now go out and listen to DJ's play in clubs/parties and see who is really delivering the goods week in week out. If that doesn't make sense then I cant imagine what people want. And ok, im biased, and best mates with a fairly influential person within the NMG circles. He and others are out listening to DJ's week in week out, chatting to people on the dance floor in an attempt to work out whats hot and whats not. Collectively the people who make the decisions this year have recerntly been to Melbourne, Brisbane, Adelaide, Perth, LA, New York, London and Europe and seen events inclduing Midsummer, Brisbane Pride, Perth Pride and even London and New York Prides. I mean what else can they do in terms of research? NMG make decisions, some of which not all of use agree with, but they are making these decisions in an attempt to deliver us on of the best parties in the world.

I agree with the anonymous poster. You should stop whingeing. It is starting to get boring and repetitive. Instead, you should be glad that your beloved 'harder styles' didn't get dumped altogether and will be playing all night in the Dome, where I'm sure there'll definitely be a 'packed' dance floor. Of course, we'd all like for our favourite music style and dj to be playing in the best hall all of the time. Obviously this is not possible nor is it fair to fans of other styles. For whatever reason, NMG have chosen to give another popular style a go in the Horden this time (probably because they realize it'll sell more tickets), so it's time to accept it and move on...

"For whatever reason, NMG have chosen to give another popular style a go in the Horden this time , so it's time to accept it and move on..."

Agree Agree Agree.

I mean you don't see me moaning and groaning (although I really have every right to) about the fact that my beloved retro has been shafted out of my beloved Stage 11 for this party causing me to be totally misplaced.

So much for the overwhelming popularity of retro at the last few MG run events. It's been shafted. Do you think I'm happy ... of course I'm not.

You don't hear me crying foul wanting retro to be given a go in the Hordern, although it would in my opinion be an overwhelming success, but thats me living in fairy land.

Totally Disagree Retro boy...............

Fans of the Horderns harder style have supported NMG for years.
Trance people spat and went off to Toybox and/or Ruby etc.

but the Hordern was always supported, always packed.

As another poster said which rang true with me - DUMPED.

Thanks for the loyalty eh ? and actually felt the same for you as Retro also proved very popular and the Forum packed.

People go on with its time for a change or must move on but why change something that is popular ? but more importantly where do the ex Hordern fans go ? you are displacing around what 5,000 or so people ? Party goers who supported NMG through the bad times .

I could understand if the style was not attracting people and the Hordern was half full. Never been the case !

They wont all fit in the Dome Paul D

And as another poster said if you put House in there the Hordern would still be packed

but what is forgotten is where do we go ? choices are Dome but we wont all fit, or dont go to the Party.

And dont go on about moving around. We all do that in the beginning of the night but the majority all settle down to their favourite music style when everything kicks in

Has Mark Alsop applied for all these Mardi Gras he has missed out on ? or was he expecting to get a gig on reputation alone ? or did he have a dummy spit after a few years of not getting a slot and hasnt bothered applying since ? I dont know, do you ? is he still good ?
he was back before he quit the whole scene.

quit the scene? hardly. aside from moving to qld (and working there) he has continued to play and work as a full time dj at inquisition, arq, manacle, shift etc etc. and (thank god) he is not living in the past musically either. the fact that you don't even seem to know this highlights the whole problem here - you are also making a LOT of assumptions about things you clearly don't know and admit to not konwing.
as for kaite - i have been very active on the scene - in sydney and melbourne - booking and working with djs and i know katie, but thats because it my job to do so. she has never participated in the gay scene as a dj or even as a punter. ever. if she is up and coming, why does she have a slot already? the spin off hasnt even happened yet? if she's known as an up and coming dj, then why doesnt anyone know of her work in the gay scene in melbourne - her home town? seeing as she's been selected as an up and coming outside of the spin off - what are her contributions to the gay scene and why were the many other djs who work in both scenes in melbourne overlooked? you can argue that people should just shut up and accept it - but this forum is one of many that allows potential ticket purchasers to voice their oppinions. we have seen that changes can occur form this. these are not attcks against the djs, this is raising questions of how the selection committee operates. we should not just shut up and accept it - isn't that the whole point of mardi gras? happy 30th birthday 79ers.

Are you saying that there are 5,000 displaced party goers whose ONLY preferred music style is this 'harder' style? Is there perhaps no way that a vast majority of these 5,000, or even at least half of them - like trance as well? We'd all be very silly to assume that every single one of these 5,000 people only liked one style. I most certainly do not pigeon-hole my music preferences to one style only.

I think most of the regular Horden-goers will still like the energy and atmosphere of the Horden, even with trance. There may be a handful of diehards who will leave in protest, but that shortfall will be more than compensated by trance-fans who have ALSO been very vocal in previous years about having NO trance at recent MG parties.

In short, for you to say that 5,000 people will now need to fit into the Dome is a very, very gross overstatement. It's simply not the case.

Well I for one would think that a bit of retro in the Hordern would be just perfect.

You must be a trance lover to say that.

To pidgeon hole ! please ask a Trance lover to go and have a dance in the Dome or Retro or House.

We all move around but we settle into our preferred style
and spend the most of the night there.

In short I never said they had to fit into the Dome but say just 25 % do............. its still too many people to put into the Dome.

I have nothing against Trance, used to dance to it myself but moved on.

Another poster suggested as Forum not being used would have been a good idea to have put Trance in there instead of displacing a large crowd of people.

It makes me laugh the way people say oh just go to another hall.

I could almost guarantee there would be people who spend most of the night in 1 or 2 Halls. Sure everyone goes and spends a little time checking out the other Halls but when it comes to settling in and having a good dance they stick to their favourite music.

I could just imagine your screams if say Toybox suddenly announced their parties would only place House Music. I am quite sure there would be a lot of people who would not be happy about it and feel cheated after all their loyal support. Of course there will be House fans who would fill in the spots vacated by them but doesnt mean you have to accept it without a whinge.

Or Fagtag deciding to go with Trance.

After supporting every party of NMG's I do feel cheated.

I love trance, yes, but I prefer house and tribal. So I'm not trying to push any pro-trance agendas, I'm just trying to put things into perspective. I strongly believe that the vast majority of people will enjoy the Horden for the atmosphere - not just the music.

Your argument/comparison about Toybox going house and Fagtag going trance is ridiculous. These private parties are known for their very particular music styles, and that is why people frequent them. Mardi Gras has NEVER been known as restricted to one particular music style.

I am going to have to call a halt to this discussion about what sort of music is in which hall because it is getting nasty. The DJs and music styles have been chosen and advertised, so it is too late to change. Mardi Gras is about celebrating. Whinging and sniping on Pinkboard is not celebration.

I challenge you all to find a positive thing to say about Mardi Gras - the festival, the parade, fair day, launch and party.

My positive thing: looks like some great stuff on at the Mardi Gras Festival Bar.

2008 looks set for a pretty amazing Gay, Lesbian, transgender, bisexual Mardi Gras. The content of the festival is diverse and interesting. Cant say theres anything that has made me jump up and down about the party (yet) except for this: its Mardi Gras' 30th Birthday. This is the cornerstone of our liberation peoples. We have to come out and celebrate this. Please dont think this event is about a musical genre. This is a festival where we can celebrate our creativity, sexuality, diversity and community.
Its not over. Gays dont have equal rights, people are still dying of AIDS, and there are bashings on our neighbourhood streets.
Let's use this time to come together - not divide. Get out to a show, check out a party, adopt a tourist for a trip around this great city. I'm marching because if this is the last parade I want to remember being in it!
Stop fighting and start loving. Even just a few weeks. You'll find it feels good.
I have friends coming in from the US, Canada, the UK, Germany, Belgium and New Zealand and Broome. They are all sexy and single guys looking for mates. Get ready!

Yay for Happy Camper! I'm seriously considering getting in there and marching as well this year. I've only ever done it once before and it was amazing! Whether it's the last year or not, like you say, it's the 30th anniversary and a milestone so I want to get involved in any way I can for 2008. :D

"Taking a look at the festival there's even nothing there for bears this year. "
The Bears run their own festival over the week leading up to the parade and party
http://www.hcbears.com/index.php?option=com_content&task=blogcategory&id=14&Itemid=28
being naturally shy creatures they use Bear Essentials as a warm-up to the big event including their own dance party
Also keep a look out for the Leather Pride events being announced later this month.

I can't wait for Mardi Gras! I am still in awe at the fact that there are people out there who go to tremendous trouble to put on a festival like this for us! There would be no other gay festival like this in the world!! I am still at a loss to understand why people feel they have the right to complain about certain aspects of it. We should not take Mardi Gras for granted, rather, we should celebrate it, and also the the fact that we have the freedoms to celebrate being so diverse. Be happy with what we've got...

I am also extremely excited about Mardi Gras. It is a truly magic time in Sydney if you want it to be. I have some friends coming over from the US and they are just as pumped about it. In my opinion Sydney has recently begun to go backwards on gay issues so we need Mardi Gras now more than ever! Even with the change of Government it looks like we are still going to be behind so many countries.

I am really looking forward to the Harbour Party now that it is back in NMG's hands. I also can't wait for the Parade where I will be watching from the Member's viewing area. And then ofcourse the party - it's going to be a big one from the soudnds of it!

My problem is that I cannot march for the whole Parade then stay on my feet for the whole of the Party. My feet and back just won't take it, even with the comfiest shoes in the world. So the Party wins out! Selfish I know ....

Hi again all...
Just putting it out there that my partner and I would love to take part in the parade itself this year. So, if anyone who reads this knows of a float that's looking for people and that has a truck of some sort (don't think I want to dance/run/jog/walk the whole route), we'd love to be involved and we don't mind paying for the privelege either, please let me know.
If only there was another Kylie tribute this year...

Hey JGirl, as far as I know the Kylie float will be on again this year - bigger and better, from what I hear. One of my friends is very much into it, can get you in contact with him if you want. I'll be marching with the Melbourne Mardi Gras Group (well - the first half of it anyway, need to be at Fox Studios before 10pm ). Email me at murray@murrayhood.com if you're keen for either of them

This Mardi Gras is really going to be the party of the decade... why?... because GAY & LESBIAN SYDNEY is back in a big way and the world is coming to Sydney to celebrate!

The festival line up is hot... Margaret Cho, Cyndi Lauper, Pam Ann plus so many other events. The party line up is hot and half the details haven't even been announced yet! On the subject I'm hearing through the grapevine that tickets are selling REALLY REALLY fast so suggest everyone get their ticket early or be prepared to miss out! Remember the old days when tickets sold out by late January? Do not be suprised people.

I for one cannot wait!

Lucy, a beautiful black and white cat who walked into my home off the street a year ago, is sitting next to me as I write this. She is playing with a pen. I asked her to tap the pen to the left if the party will be a disaster and to the right if it will be a success. She tapped the pen to the right. So it's all OK. She has no preference for trance, tribal, retro etc. These terms mean nothing to her. She just wants me to have a wonderful time and to value being part of our vibrant gay and lesbian community. I have two friends in New Zealand whose 25-year union was recently recognised legally. What a blast!It was all illegal within our lifetimes! I am very open to Lucy forming a same-sex union but this will depend on her new companion providing delicious food twice a day.

My Mardi Gras wish list - Since we are using both of the big halls (RHI and Hordern) that at least one of these halls large downstairs toilet facilities is allocated to men only. It's such a waste seeing that HUGE womens toilet area being 90% empty when the guys are queuing for up to an hour to use the other half of the facility that is for the blokes.

I believe whether this can happen is up to our illustrious party producer Mr Brad Wright. Please Brad. Please.

I believe that its not up to Brad but undertand that he and NMG are well aware of the problems that faced Sleaze Ball with the single sex toilet arrangements only. Here is hoping that the venue owners and mangers listen to him/NMG and their advice/suggestions when suggesting that toilet conditions are changed for MG08 and that some toilet blocks become unisex again.

Trust the cat! Believe the cat! Animals always know....
Murray - Thanks heaps, I'll definitely be in touch re the Kylie float.

thank you Panther for changing the tone. those of us easily influenced do earnestly appreciate your effect on our moods whilst reading. may the good feelings multiply and lead us towards harmony...

I think it should be compulsory that 75% of the available toilet facilities be allocated to the 75% of the gender that attends these parties (ie males)

It was outrageous seeing that downstairs toilet in the RHI and Hordern last Mardi Gras being segreagated into the seperate sexes. Boys queuing up for ages to get a toilet while the other half of the facility was empty. What on earth were the owners of the site thinking not allowing unisex to continue as it has been for years and years past.

This in my opinion is a very important issue that I think NMG needs to very carefully address. I also believe that poential party goers need to be told UP FRONT before the event what the toilet arrangements will be.

I agree about the loos - and I'm a girl! We need the upstairs ladies in the Hordern kept as ladies - there's always room in there. I didn't even know there WAS a downstairs ladies loo! So there you go. Take it away boys! xxx

Guys can we have some Podiums scattered around for us boys that love to show off there great fun to be on and there great to watch people on. Placement has to be precise they can ruin the whole dance floor if placed in the wrong area. Around the pilons in the RHI or down the sides and around the edges in the Hordern just a few would be fun and it adds something else for us to play on.

There is a simple solution to the toilet problem should the venue management insist on policing the toilets all night...

Make both the downstairs toilets in the RHI male only and make the dancefloor level toilets female only. The queing at last years party can easily be avoided if they configure the toilets this way.

Did someone say podiums?... yes please!

A bloody tree? We are planting one bloody tree as the Launch of our 30th Mardi Gras? Fantastic.

Can I vote against podiums please? I find it really creepy to have people looking down on me while I'm dancing. It really interferes with my connection with the music and the lovely people all around me. I vote NO!

Remember its not all about you its a Party for our whole community.

Don't dance near the podiums then

Podiums at Fox Studio parties are a thing of the past. Fox wont allow them, its a health and safety issue.

Damn this bloody minded over litigious world we live in.

Yeah I dont like podiums and the posers dancing on them

so I just move further into the dance floor away from
them.

What I used to love in the Hordern was the days when they
would actually build a larger dance floor and one or two of the corners had the stage lifted higher than the rest of the dance. Was great to look out the floor and you would see this wall of people dancing away as well.

I have a friend who knows some one that works at a record company and they spilt some beans on some guests for the Mardi Gras birthday.

i hope the acts gets mentioned before the party sells out. Mardi Gras has done something cool and amazing... I'm going!

Posers thats a bit harsh lets just say Showgirls its that time of year when they all come out for a great night and everyone throws there inhabitations to the wind and its that time of the year when we should join in and enjoy.

Poseurs..hmmmm....sometimes they're hot, sometimes they're not...but like, who cares?...everyone is there to have a good time, whether it be on a podium or on the dancefloor.

I've had some interesting chats, and more, from the podium

Podium Shomdium. Who cares. They're history at fox Studio events. Move on.

As the soup nazi would say ... "No Podium for you"

Podiums are so last century. Think 60's go-go dancers or 70's disco. They break up the dance floor and the continuous energy of all those writhing bodies. For the show ponies who like to be 'on high' I suggest a good pair of platform heels. Can I also add one of my favourite shows at mardi gras would have to be when christine anu came out over the crowd in that ring and sang "sunshine on a rainy day" for the 7am show in the rhi. Vanessa Amarossi also rocked the place down that year with the 4am show. Cheers everyone and Happy 30th Mardi Gras.

or......................

I remember years ago - bit of a blurr - but at a party a group of Drag Queens carried their own podiums with them, they looked like large hat boxes with a handle. They would then move around the floor, plonk down their hat boxes and wah-la , instant podiums and they would dance for awhile, then move on.

Was a screeeech.

"Podiums at Fox Studio parties are a thing of the past. Fox wont allow them, its a health and safety issue"

In defence of podiums I would like to argue that rather than being for posers they are actually great for getting out of a sweaty crowd and having a look over the dance floor while you dance.

And I question the "Fox studio" ban on them because Toybox New Years Day last year certainly had them. I think the "Ban" is more of a cost cutting front put up by certain promoters.

I love a good podium!

yeah, im with you! a neighbour of a friend whos on the train every morning has got a niece, who's sister's brother in law has got a cat - and she heard from the cow next door about it too! god, im soo there as well!!!!

I have never heard of podiums being "banned" by Fox Studios (PVM). It would be new news to me and make no sense. There are definitely "issues" concerned with raised structures in term of steps and railings that cause all sorts of financial problems, that's about it though.

From DNA...

In an exclusive interview with DNA, Kylie told us she wants to perform at the 2008 Sydney Gay & Lesbian Mardi Gras Party alongside sister Dannii.

“I would love to do Mardi Gras,” said Kylie. “I would love to!”

“Why don’t you take a poll on your website as to which song I should sing, which song my sister should sing and which song we should sing together?”

Check out the latest poll results at http://www.dnamagazine.com.au/default.asp?section_id=303

Thanks Brad for your comments on the podiums.

I'm a bit upset you've ignored supplying feedback re the other issue in recent days that you could have commented on - that being the toilet arrangements at Mardi Gras this year.

Can you PLEASE supply some feedback as to how this matter might be progessing (if at all) ?

when did mardi gras workers consent to offering a poor disgruntled punters digital hotline service?

shall we call you in your jobs and tell you everything we want from the new aussie bum underwear? or dental bleach etc etc, for whatever the hell we all do as jobs. chill out everyone. one day the wind will change and your faces will be stuck that way! ... in greed mode

Is true that negotiations broke down between Mardi Gras and Kylie and Dannii? Is it true that Scissor Sisters are going to be announced as one of the lead acts and is it true that Alison Moyet will also be appearing at the Mardi Gras party as well as a possible re-appearance of Darren Hayes. Have heard this from several people over the last couple of days.
If these rumours are true then I will definitely go to the party as the "headline" djs weren't enough to convince me.

In my opinion the previous poster is being a tad childish with his or her remarks. I think the original post had a very valid point to make regarding the toilet issue at Mardi Gras last year and I dont think it would be too much to ask somebody like Brad who is a regular contributor to this wall to at least give us all an update on this matter. To come on here and make fun of somebody asking a fair and legitimate question is being downright rude. Please respect other peoples points of view next time.

I can only think of one song: LIGHT YEARS! (Minus the flight attendant monologue, of course!)

I hope this question gets answered as my decision to go to the party depends on it.

will Dome have better ventilation than last year ? it was dangerously hot in that room 2007

ALL TOILETS SHOULD BE UNISEX AT MG

1.the cubicles have doors so if people want privacy they have it

2 MOST OBVIOUS QUESTION
What is the point of segregation anyway??? Its a GAY party.
could never figure out that way of thinking

My understanding is that Fox Studios dont like Unisex toilets as it leaves females open to a potential rape situation with straight men.

Has anyone told them that Mardi gras is mainly a gay and lesbian event ... derrrr

I read with avid interest on page 8 of todays Star Observer regarding the New Mardi Gras advertisement that called for people to audition to be a show dancer at this years Mardi Gras party.

Now here is my concern - How is it that people are invited to audition to be a show performer at the party yet New Mardi Gras have a closed shop policy in regards to people wanting to audition and express an interest in wanting to be considered for a DJ position. So much for a fair and equal go for everybody.

More like a fair go for those 'in the know' and no go for the rest.

Im well aware of the toilet situation and im sure I commented on it months ago when it was first discussed here. Im hoping it will be fixed for MG08. As for the heating situation at MG07 in the Dome - the Dome was air-conditioned at Sleaze 07 by the venue owners after we complained about MG07, and, im assuming that the same air conditioning will be provided at this years party.

As im sure your all aware if you want more direct info email me directly as im not always available via this site. brad.wright@mardigras.org.au

Darren Hayes is touring the US in March. More details can be found on his MySpace page. I heard that Kylie and Dannii had fallen through too. That was from one of Kylie's record label people. I hope not, that was my only justification for the ticket price. The Dj's are simply not doing it for me this year.

The REAL Countdown now begins !!!!!!
The REAL Countdown now begins !!!!!!
The REAL Countdown now begins !!!!!!
The REAL Countdown now begins !!!!!!



There are just 50 Days to Mardi Gras !!

There are just 50 Days to Mardi Gras !!

There are just 50 Days to Mardi Gras !!

There are just 50 Days to Mardi Gras !!

There are just 50 Days to Mardi Gras !!

There are just 50 Days to Mardi Gras !!

There are just 50 Days to Mardi Gras !!

There are just 50 Days to Mardi Gras !!

There are just 50 Days to Mardi Gras !!

There are just 50 Days to Mardi Gras !!

There are just 50 Days to Mardi Gras !!

There are just 50 Days to Mardi Gras !!

Give it a rest will you !

If you dont like the way NMG do things and feel so passionate about it, get on board and volunteer your time. If you dont/cant , then its their call not yours and you have to accept it.

--------

Hey Chiclet - we are wondering the same thing re Dome heat especially as they have turned the Hordern over to that fluffy stuff we could end up with major crush inside the Dome for those wanting to get away from the vocals.
Actually considering an alternative party if it comes up. Still do the Parade etc but head off to other venue as I can see it being a big squash and not the type Paul D likes

But NMG can choose whichever DJs it wishes, as has been stated here repeatedly. NMJ is accountable to its members, not to the world in general, and it can choose DJs however it likes provided it does not breach the law. Nobody is suggesting that it has. There is no legal or moral requirement for it to call for applications.

Oh please

You or your DJ friend did not get picked. Accpet it.


DJ's are usually already known and therefore have a reputation so the people at NMG can choose.

Excluding professionals , dancers do not have this reputation , therefore NMG will have to see them dance first and within about 30 beats you can see who can dance or who is an unco.

If you are truly passionate about how DJ's should be selected then join NMG. If you or a friend is a DJ then accept you were not chosen. If you dont want to do anything about it, then you have to leave it all up to NMG to do their way and you just have to accept their decisions.

Have you gone to the last few parties ? Words like best in years, like they used to be etc are being used so NMG must be doing it right for the majority.

Also worried Chiclet about Dome heat. Like other posters I just wondering where the ex Hordern crowd are going to go for a dance when they wanting to dance to something
hard/dirty/edgier etc. Of course realise its not going to be the whole 6,000 but only a 1/5th of these will overflow the Dome and I dont line up for a Hall and I dont dance in Sauna conditions - way too dangerous.

I think it's extremely shallow of the previous poster having a dig at somebody complaining about something and then in the same posting having your own bitch about something else, you sort of lose your credibility a bit dont you think ?

The Dome has always been hot. It's just the nature of that building. I think you need to take a bit of your own advice and just accept it or dont go.

The Dome has always been hot ?

Obviously you are a non Dome person. It does not always get hot but with overcrowding it can.

The DJ selection whinging is tiresome and if posters dont want to get off their collective butts and participate in the selection committee then they have to accept NMG's
choice.

Overheating in the Dome is a health issue and Chiclet and the other posters are correct it has to be addressed just as the toilets have to be worked out etc.

Missing out on being selected as a DJ does not =
health issues.

some would say that the Dome was too well air conditioned for Sleaze 07!

It was no longer hot and sweaty... can't win everything!

Show your support for this years harbour party by showing your attendance on the facebook event.

http://www.facebook.com/event.php?eid=10941850711

See what other hot guys and girls are going!

Still going to Mardi Gras Party but we too are worried about Dome and the heat issue.

Dome already gets packed with its following. Not getting into the argument of changing Hordern to Trance but.....
you have to ask where will people go if they do want to have a dance to something harder/edgier than Trance ?
there will just not be enough room in Dome and thats what concerns us. An alternative venue has not been offered so only Dome is left and it wont be able to take too many more than what it already gets.

Agree with poster about not wasting my time lining up to get into a Hall and no way would I dance in sauna conditions either.

Does Dome have air conditioning ? if not then like RHI it needs those air blowers or exhaust fans put in some of the
doorways to cool the place down.

Alison Mayet? OGM!! that would be fab

A performance by David O'mer would make my night. Maybe someone could convince him to hang around for a month or so till the event.

Ummmmmm No

and its was not packed to the rafters. For some reason for me , Dome was not its usual self. It lacked something and others must have felt the same as it was never packed.
But that was about the only time seen it like that in years.
Usually though it is packed, hot, and you can hardly breath.
I think posters are wondering about that and if only some of the ex Hordern hard lovers head towards Dome its just going to be a nightmare/disaster.

"I think posters are wondering about that and if only some of the ex Hordern hard lovers head towards Dome its just going to be a nightmare/disaster"

Firstly, I love both hard and trance music so my post is not trying to take sides. The Hordern last year was not hard and I think the Dome coped. The Hordern in 2006 and 2005 was trance and the Dome coped.

This party will sell out soon which is probably why there has been little to no advertising for it. Take a look in this weeks SX... nothing. EVERY venue will be full and pumping!

The Sydney Gay and Lesbian Mardi Gras is back in a big way!

There are just 49 Days to Mardi Gras !!

SEVEN WEEKS TO GO !!!!!!!!!!!!!

There are just 49 Days to Mardi Gras !!

SEVEN WEEKS TO GO !!!!!!!!!!!!!

There are just 49 Days to Mardi Gras !!

SEVEN WEEKS TO GO !!!!!!!!!!!!!

There are just 49 Days to Mardi Gras !!

SEVEN WEEKS TO GO !!!!!!!!!!!!!

wasn't alison moyet going to star at mardi gras a couple of years ago but had a falling out with the committee at the last minute (she was already in the country) about wanting to sing live as opposed to a pre-recorded track?
I remember her on one of the morning talk shows afterwards. if they can get her for this year she would be fabulous.

The temperature in the Dome depends very much on the weather. If the evening is mild, it's OK no matter how many people are there. If it's a hot, sticky night, it's a sauna. Fingers crossed for a fine, dry night and gentle breeze

"wasn't alison moyet going to star at mardi gras a couple of years ago but had a falling out with the committee at the last minute (she was already in the country) about wanting to sing live as opposed to a pre-recorded track"
.
.
wow what a rumour! if i was alison and mg told me not to sing live i would not be even thinking to work for them ever again.
.
i love your rumour. got more?
.
.
i heard the eagles, cliff richard and john farnham are gonna be singing together! and they wont mind singing to pre recording tracks.
they will sing two tracks each and then some together. i also heard one of the djs was cancelled because of this unexpected performance.

There are only 48 Days to Mardi Gras !!

There are only 48 Days to Mardi Gras !!

There are only 48 Days to Mardi Gras !!

There are only 48 Days to Mardi Gras !!

There are only 48 Days to Mardi Gras !!

There are only 48 Days to Mardi Gras !!

There are only 48 Days to Mardi Gras !!

There are only 48 Days to Mardi Gras !!

There are only 48 Days to Mardi Gras !!

There are only 48 Days to Mardi Gras !!

with all these rumours going round about who's performing at mardi gras surely the performers would have been locked in months ago to fit in with their schedules and to allow contractual negotiations and choreography and stage design and production for the shows and also to fit in with the budget of the party. the idea that mardi gras would still be negotiating to get either minogue at mardi gras at this late stage is infeasible to say the least. that's not to say no but if either or both are performing it would have been a done deal and set in concrete long before now.

umm..like the usual..musical set up.. the djs will hold us captive as to what they want us to hear..id kill to hear Donna Summer's "Now I Need You" booming out loudly at the party...seeing its the 30th anniversary..a musical retrospective would be so cool..for those who wish to know more..do a google or better still try You tube..hope u enjoy MG...Px

"with all these rumours going round about who's performing at mardi gras surely the performers would have been locked in months ago to fit in with their schedules and to allow contractual negotiations and choreography and stage design and production for the shows and also to fit in with the budget of the party. the idea that mardi gras would still be negotiating to get either minogue at mardi gras at this late stage is infeasible to say the least. that's not to say no but if either or both are performing it would have been a done deal and set in concrete long before now."

Mardi Gras can't actually afford to pay someone like Kylie. Like previous parties Kylie performed because she wanted to. I'd imagine her schedule would be constantly changing so she may not be able to confirm (or not) until the last minute. And if Kylie came knocking I don't think anyone would turn her away... no matter how far they were into the production design.

There are 47 Days to Mardi Gras !!

There are 47 Days to Mardi Gras !!

There are 47 Days to Mardi Gras !!

There are 47 Days to Mardi Gras !!

There are 47 Days to Mardi Gras !!

There are 47 Days to Mardi Gras !!

There are 47 Days to Mardi Gras !!

There are 47 Days to Mardi Gras !!

There are 47 Days to Mardi Gras !!

There are 47 Days to Mardi Gras !!

Well Kylie has just confirmed on Brekkie Central she wont be doing Mardi Gras this year as she will be rehearsing for her tour opening in Paris in April. End of the rumour.

Well, after seeing my beloved Kylie on Sunrise this morning, I doubt she's going to be performing at Party this year. Her response was far too sincere for my liking "I'm going to be preparing for my tour around that time" or words to that effect.
I love Kylie, I love Kylie, I love Kylie! She's lovely. :D

This will be my first Party, and I'm looking forward to it from what I hear, but reading this board could put even the newest person off wanting to come. The Party is supposed to be a mind blowing experience for first timers, and I'm a bit worried I've just convinced friends to go for nothing.

However, I will be looking forward to it as a positive experience and hope to see you all there after a hard day working on getting Parade off the ground I'm hoping I can kick back and relax and party on enjoying a great show... minus the bitching

I have a feeling that she was not even approached to attend, I think it was just some good hype to build exctiement!..

As mentioned above all of the entertainment and everyhting would have already been decided.

Just lets wait and see I have already got my ticket a while ago so lets keep the rumours coming.

Shame though cause she would have rocked with Danni,

Maybe Danni might still be playing??

Thats right, focus on the negative posts ie bitching and ignore the rest of us having fun on who will be there etc.

So you see you bitched about the bitches

Just focus on the posts having fun on what to wear, who
will be there etc. You learn to ignore the personal
bitching.

i've heard a rumour involving a certain group from Newcastle.... now that would be different indeed.

What's said on this wall can be a taken with a grain of salt. Don't worry about the negative naysayers here, the parade and party will be brilliant trust me. You and your friends will have a great time partying. And being a first timer it will all blow you away.
Doesn't matter who is djing or who is performing, all the halls will be pumping with happy georgeous boys and girls out to enjoy themselves on the night.

Have a fun and safe Mardi Gras......not long now!!!

Of course Mardi Gras would have approached Kylie, but as much as we think it's terribly important, the crowd in the RHI is pretty small by comparison to the shows Kylie has done in recent years, so the attraction is probably a lot less than it once was and she has bigger fish to fry. I believe that in the past her fee has been donated to HIV/AIDS charities. I don't think there's much point getting all excited about huge international acts. Cyndi Lauper is likely; Dannii has just recorded a cover of Xanadu, so that's a strong possibility; otherwise it's Australian Idol offcasts all the way. I like the Silverchair rumour. As if. But wouldn't Freak be brilliant...

I want to have "his" baby........... he is way cute.

my rumour involves a certain folk singer from waga waga.
even all my neighbours heard it, my distant cousin from bankstown and the dog living next door to her as well.

Considering the strong ties between Daniel Johns and Paul Mac, I'm surprised people are dismissing this so readily.

I think this would be something really out of left field but it makes more sense than the annual kylie rumours.

Hmmmmmmmmmmmm being the meat between a Daniel Johns and
Paul Mac sandwich..........................

Wagga Wagga surely.

The party is a mind blowing experience the first time. Some of us still find it a mind blowing after the 25th time. If you go with an open mind and plan on enjoying yourself you should have an amazing time. There is nothing quite like Mardi Gras in my experience.

New Mardi Gras will hold open auditions on Saturday 19 January at Brent St Studios, Entertainment Quarter, for the 30th Anniversary Mardi Gras Party.
This year we are casting for multiple shows and are looking for the following people to audition:
Session 1: Male and Female Volunteer Dancers: Registration from 11am. Auditions at 12pm
Session 2: Male and Female Professional Dancers: Registration from 12pm. Auditions at 1pm
Session 3: Volunteer Drag Kings and Femme Fatale: Registration from 1pm. Auditions at 2pm
Session 4: Volunteer Drag Queens to perform in a drag spectacular: Registration from 2pm. Auditions at 3pm

details

Session 5: DJ Auditions - Cancelled. Again.

gosh, well even if there was a DJ Audition you wouldnt get selected as all your records are obviously broken.

Show which events you are attending on Facebook:
Fair Day http://www.facebook.com/event.php?eid=6169905333
Pool Party http://www.facebook.com/event.php?eid=8466463293
Sol y Luna http://www.facebook.com/event.php?eid=10941850711
Parade http://www.facebook.com/event.php?eid=4970539582
Party http://www.facebook.com/event.php?eid=4943631601

Hey, hey! Don't forget Up & Coming DJ Spin-Off! 2 nights - Sat 9 Feb for the boys and Sun 10 Feb for the girls!
http://www.facebook.com/event.php?eid=6940857207
http://www.facebook.com/event.php?eid=11106157039

what do you mean they were cancelled??
what auditions??

Who is DJ Audition and where do they play?

I dont like Devon

Hahahahahahahahahahahahaa

was trying to think of a witty reply but yours takes the
cake

good one

There are 46 Days to Mardi Gras !!

There are 46 Days to Mardi Gras !!

There are 46 Days to Mardi Gras !!

There are 46 Days to Mardi Gras !!

There are 46 Days to Mardi Gras !!

There are 46 Days to Mardi Gras !!

There are 46 Days to Mardi Gras !!

There are 46 Days to Mardi Gras !!

There are 46 Days to Mardi Gras !!

There are 46 Days to Mardi Gras !!

There are 46 Days to Mardi Gras !!

There are 46 Days to Mardi Gras !!

did anyone else hear these rumours?

DJ Tiesto is playing at a private afterhour at Happy Feet's place. Tickets are $45000 and there's only 5 because it isn't a very big place!

DJ Audition performs at home to bedroom wall. Tickets are free. Said dj will occasionally press stop and start the mix again "this time I'll get it right!"

The Bangles are doing a medley of "Hymn To Her" and "3000 miles" from that other talented Brunette... everyone will be given tapered candles. This is at Fair Day.

Every Dj in Sydney has decided to contribute one song to a back to back set. ALL SYDNEY DJS are confirmed for Mardi Gras!




More seriously, can someone remember to say to me "Happy Mardi Gras" please. Didn't remember anyone saying that once last year. I remember this feeling of warmth in the time leading up to, including, and just after MArdi Gras with such incredible fondness. As a new comer-out-er-er many years ago, it was one of the things that affirmed I was in the right world after all. Give that gift onwards, I will

Well I dont know what crowd you hang out with but my friends and I often say Happy Mardi Gras to lots of people and usually get a hug and sometimes a kiss

well I'm 46 and I wouldn't miss this anniversary MG for anything. Looking forward to remembering years past and having a great time this time (as far as the feet will allow....) Bring it on!

me too...

There are ONLY 45 Days to Mardi Gras !!

There are ONLY 45 Days to Mardi Gras !!

There are ONLY 45 Days to Mardi Gras !!

There are ONLY 45 Days to Mardi Gras !!

There are ONLY 45 Days to Mardi Gras !!

There are ONLY 45 Days to Mardi Gras !!

There are ONLY 45 Days to Mardi Gras !!

There are ONLY 45 Days to Mardi Gras !!

There are ONLY 45 Days to Mardi Gras !!

There are ONLY 45 Days to Mardi Gras !!

There are ONLY 45 Days to Mardi Gras !!

There are ONLY 45 Days to Mardi Gras !!

How do you mean "coming out" Countdownboy?

... that im bloody gorgeous...

it's true too...

hahahahahahahahahahah

They lied....

Dear First Timer,
Ignore anything negative you read here. The Parade and Party are a total blast and you and your friends will have a night none of you will never forget! I still remember my first, and it was 19 years ago!!!
See you on the dance floor....in the RHI...under the mirror ball....around 3.00am....can't wait

I also still remember my first time, Mardi Gras 94...wow the memories since then

And Im 50 and I still dont want to grow up.

52 and dont want to grow up either.

Well at least at party times

I'm 85 and wear nappies.

OMG the line up this year is amazing already, good to see such a diverse talent group to kick our Parties 30th Anniversary off.

I mean Agnelli & Nelson for the Horden Neon Fusion combined with Ruby and Marty are going to be crazy!!

Then there Hex Hector in the RHI... it's true bliss!!

I've been wondering about those

way more convenient than lining up the the toilets but then the sagging could look embarrassing after a night
full !

There are ONLY 44 Days to Mardi Gras !!

There are ONLY 44 Days to Mardi Gras !!

There are ONLY 44 Days to Mardi Gras !!

There are ONLY 44 Days to Mardi Gras !!

There are ONLY 44 Days to Mardi Gras !!

There are ONLY 44 Days to Mardi Gras !!

There are ONLY 44 Days to Mardi Gras !!

There are ONLY 44 Days to Mardi Gras !!

There are ONLY 44 Days to Mardi Gras !!

There are ONLY 44 Days to Mardi Gras !!

There are ONLY 44 Days to Mardi Gras !!

There are ONLY 44 Days to Mardi Gras !!

Despite numerous attempts over the last 4 weeks I cannot access the New Mardi Gras website using my iMac.

Am I the only gay in the village with an iMac having problems loading the 2008 NMG website? Any suggestions?

God dam Apple problems, I used to have one and they are great and are quite superior to PC's in a lot of ways. But it was these issues that made me change to a PC.

I hate to say it, but i have not had an issue since.

Goodluck in fixing it, but I was unable too.


It's not just the mardi gras site though, I used to have lots of sites.

WOOHOO! Check the Mardi Gras SX poster today!!!

it's just YOU
am on a mac and accessing the site rite now in another tab. sounds more like an end user error

How about NMG giving us oldies our own space? So we don't clip the shins of all those youngens with our wheelchairs on the dance floor. And while we are at it can we have special toilets allocated for us with nappy disposal units in them.

When is it to old to party?

http://www.agnelliandnelson.com/

As one of the people who has critisied the bland (imho) line up this year, I must congratulate NMG for getting Angelli & Nelson.

But the diary on their web is for 2004 ?

Then nothing more for gigs or whatever ?

What hall they playing and when ? cause if they are still playing 2004, then I'll be moving to another Hall.

Hasnt NMG already announced the DJ's and the timeframes that they are playing ?

Does this mean somebody already announced as playing at MG gets squeezed out in favour of Agnelli and Nelson.

If I was a DJ having already had my hours confirmed by NMG for the party and then had my set pulled (or even adjusted) I would NOT be a happy Nellie.

Doesnt seem very fair to me.

Maybe the unknowns on the line up were just smokescreens for other performers who are actually known in the industry....

No love, all the original dj's are still there, they've just announced more! How exciting! Honestly, they've really just gone crazy with cool stuff for this party, ay? I so can't wait. This one is really going to be a killer! Yay Mardi Gras!
Happy Mardi Gras everyone!

hey smartie. If it wasn't for us there wouldn't BE a 30th Mardi Gras to attend - and certainly no bloody party! respect! And you're never too old to party, even if it's to have a bit of a dance and feel included in the best G&L event in the world (even if some of us do go home at 4am!). Happy 30th all!

Is true ?

nothing on the NMG website ?

and we cant get SX.

But as another poster said the diary section of their website is for 2004 ? what ranking do these guys have ?
hope its not gonna be old fluffy trance and just where will they be playing ?

It's definitely true, it's on the SX website and in the actual paper too... if you can't get the mag, just go to the web site - www.sxnews.com.au and click on the link for "this week's issue" and scroll through the pages. Surely they'll have to play in Hordern which will be trance heaven on that night... that's what makes sense anyway but which time slot is the question?!!?

is bgf the only ones with reserved seating for the parade? i just looked at there web site and there prices start at $133 per ticket, and then food and drinks is only available at there bar as none is allowed in.

sure bgf is a good cause, but its a BIG bit over priced.

if any one knows of other reserved seating at realistic prices id love to know about it.

same here, able to access website using macbook pro. try using firefox as a web browser, sometimes, i find it can open more pc compatible websites than safari :p

I heard they're taking the spot that DJ Josh was gonna do before being dropped for reasons unknown

Here is a link so you can check out the current poster (even if you are not on facebook you can still view this pic):

http://www.facebook.com/photo.php?pid=562409&l=5c34e&id=684217652

DJ Josh is still playing... in fact they are on the second row in the heirachy of DJ listings!

agnelli and nelson are great producers and i am totally sure almost anyone at this party would enjoy them. their style has fluff, and tough, and class and is pretty accessible yet the more long-time trance fans will (even if lamentably) dance and smile

gold star to mardi gras, and congrats on a FANTASTIC score

Mardi Gras members are able to purchase tickets to an event at Taylor Square. Its not the same as BGF seating but its a lot cheaper. There is some seating but most punters get to stand on Gilligans Island. You get access to bars and toiliets, food and there is commentary just like BGF. Tickets for the last few years have been around $30.

DJ Josh gone ?????????????????????????????

well there goes the Hordern. Was hoping would get something a bit harder out of her.

Went to those guys website and way too fluffy for me but its not a very updated website ?

What ranking do these guys or is it someone not even in the top 50 ?

Was said tongue in cheek Marchinggirl. I am one of the oldies (52yrs) so have been around since day one and no one is gunna tell me I am too old to party. And I still manage to stay all night at the parties. In fact I am doing three parties over Mardi Gras weekend with friends. Luckily have a week off after to rest and recuperate. Enjoy the partying and Happy Mardi Gras......

Settle love, DJ Josh is still billed on the line-up.

Agnelli and Nelson are trance DJ's

Mardi Gras has already announced the DJ's in the Horden who are playing trance and their respective timeslots

Surely Agnelli and Nelson must be being placed in the Hordern, a new venue isn't going to be opened up just for them to also play trance in

So WHO from the initial announced Hordern line up is getting the shove ?

This is very unprofessional of NMG to book DJ's in , then announce them in the press and then re-arrange the time slots to fit in Agnelli and Nelson. Or maybe someone from the original line up in the Hordern has been cancelled (or withdrawn) ?

These are questions that need to answered.

Regardless of the answer , If any of the original DJ's announced for the Hordern have been shafted or had their time slots rearranged to get Agnelli and Nelson in at the last moment then its a sad sad day for professionalism in my opinion.

If it wasnt for us ......................... puh-lease.

Nothing worse than someone stating we owe them respect.

Thanks for the hint .....unfortunately it still will not open. Not impressed Jan!

There are just 43 Days to Mardi Gras !!

There are just 43 Days to Mardi Gras !!

There are just 43 Days to Mardi Gras !!

There are just 43 Days to Mardi Gras !!

There are just 43 Days to Mardi Gras !!

There are just 43 Days to Mardi Gras !!

There are just 43 Days to Mardi Gras !!

There are just 43 Days to Mardi Gras !!

There are just 43 Days to Mardi Gras !!

There are just 43 Days to Mardi Gras !!

There are just 43 Days to Mardi Gras !!

There are just 43 Days to Mardi Gras !!

Are you serious! It makes me laugh that so many people are so quick to get defensive!!

Have you ever thought the original list that was supplied was part real part fake, and as per every other Mardi Gras they are creating the hype that makes the party so special!.

DJ marty is no longer on the list, but was he actually ever playing?

I like the build the more announcements, it adds to the party!!

GEEZ I love not knowing there being blown away!

btw. those who dont know agnelliandnelson check out there my space page.. any trance fan will agree they are superb and total quality!

http://www.myspace.com/agnelliandnelson

"Was hoping would get something a bit harder out of her."

Josh plays very commercial house and ruby trance!! Hard? Your barking up the wrong tree, in the wrong forest. Think Sveta with shorter hair.

Best line up EVER Mardi Gras!! Great to see more bands playing, plus Bad Dog djs, Gemma... I cant wait!

I know DJ's can change styles but a few years back
DJ Josh was a bit harder than the rest and it was not that fluffy full on vocal trance stuff ( some but not
all the set ) and we liked the way she spun the records
above her head, pumped the air with her hands etc ).

Ummmmmmmm and correct me if I am wrong but these sites
have ranked Agnelli and Nelson -

http://www.thedjlist.com/djs/AGNELLI_&_NELSON/

as nbr 898 !!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!

http://www.residentadvisor.net/dj-page.aspx?id=120

and check the latest news area of this site and see that
the last mention was 2005.

Maybe its gonna be more Retro ? and not being bitchy here but just over these past their prime Intenational imports
we seem to get.

Regardless of the answer , If any of the original DJ's announced for the Hordern have been shafted or had their time slots rearranged to get Agnelli and Nelson in at the last moment then its a sad sad day for professionalism in my opinion.

- Fri 18 Jan 2008 08:56:47

*rolls eyes* Whoever you are, you deserve an award for excellence in whingeing. :p I'm sure that the contracts for DJ 'performances' such as these contain clauses that state the schedule may be adjusted etc etc. I for one am glad to see MG add a big name to the bill (I'm sure this will help ticket sales). Agnelli and Nelson are trance producers who are also DJs - and yes they are in the top 100. While they've produced some classic trance tracks, some of which are still regularly played at Toybox and Ruby parties, after a bit of a hiatus, they've recently released some great new productions and remixes. In fact, their remix of John O'Callaghan's track "Big Sky" was voted #1 trance track for 2007 in Armin Van Buuren's A State of Trance radio show. So, expect them to play uplifting trance similar in style to what you might hear from Above & Beyond. I think they are a great choice for the Horden. Congratulations to MG for getting them.

As for DJ Josh, her name is still on the bill, so that's a sign that she's probably still playing I'd guess. But I wouldn't expect her to be playing any harder than any of the other DJs listed for the Horden - she plays a very similar style to Ruby, although at a quicker pace. If you want 'hard'/tribal, your best bet is the Dome.

http://www.djmag.com/index.php?op=top100dj&top100dj_op=results&results_op=2007&search_op=display&top_100_id=65&limit_num=250&page=7

Yes and do a search on that site for Australian DJ's and you will find none of the aussie dj's Mardi Gras has chosen and the few that are listed are ranked at 36,791 and higher. Says a lot for our DJ's then or does it?

IMHO all Dj's are over rated - I am not into this Demi God Status some people seem to place them in. For godness sake they are just doing their job and like everyone else some are good at it and some are so so.

I am glad NMG have chosen some os Dj's for the party to mix it with the local talent. I think they have got a great line up this year and am really looking forward to it. All my friends are buzzing with anticipation.

I have 3 tracks from Agnelli & Nelson that were released last year. They are all what I would describe as uplifting progressive house that is not cheesey in any way.

I'm stoked that they are playing at Mardi Gras!!!

Ummmmmmmmmmmmmmmm

so its uplifting progressive HOUSE ? so they cant be in the Hordern ?

If so then my poor Hordern. I will hold a vigil at midnight for all the hard fans to pass on their
sympathy.

u must say "good work" to panther this year! this is one of the best backgrounds i've ever seen on pinkboard. its nice, the colours are soft and the posts are easy to read.
.
the same goes to countdowns. whoever does it seems to settle down a bit. the countdowns come across quite tasty this year. matching the background and not stealing attention from the posts. please keep it that way. (well, lets not rush with praises here yet)

It definatley TRANCE!! Yes part are uplifting, but they play TRANCE ------ And yes they do mix it up and I'm sure before the end of the set they will have the place jumping.

If it wasnt for us ......................... puh-lease.

Nothing worse than someone stating we owe them respect.

Ahem, I think it's more a case of NOT being disrespectful. Everyone gets older, even those important people in Generation Why...

On another matter, I think it would be best if some posters went straight home after the parade and put on their favourite CD for a dance around the lounge room. That way you can't have your night spoilt by being unable to find a single space in which to enjoy yourself at the party. Why waste the money when you know you're going to be miserable?

Yeah I reckon. Agnelli and Nelson sandwiched between Ruby and Marty will definitely mean they're playing trance. Can't wait.

This is by the far the line-up of line-ups for MG parties. Well done.

Unfortunately Aussie DJ's and NZ/Asian dont get on this if they dont play in Europe at some stage or work with
a band/singer etc so they dont get rated and I know that.

but hello ? these guys work in Europe. Their own diary page is 2004 stuff !

but the biggest worry is they are 898 on the DJ list ? I mean someone who was 56th on that list got some punished earlier on.

Just worried how a lot of sites that refer to these guys are dated a couple of years back.

Not at all, wait and hear them then decide!

BTW see the below DJ times already announced, are mardi gras going to release a new time schedule?

I am intrigue though how it is going to work and the band area etc

Not a bitch by any means, just don't want to miss my fav acts!!

So NMG should only import DJ's from the so called top ten list then? I a think they have done a better job in bringing more DJ's for their money instead of just one or two so called top rated ones.

We can judge on the night as to how good all these DJ's are, just give them a chance.

Am sure NMG will shave 30 mins play time of each of the trance dj sets and slot these guys between DJ Josh & Marty.

Still gunna be a great line up in Trance Heaven aka "The Hordern".

but the biggest worry is they are 898 on the DJ list ?
Has beens ? - Fri 18 Jan 2008 13:10:43

You obviously didn't check out the link posted above (http://www.djmag.com/index.php?op=top100dj&top100dj_op=results&results_op=2007&search_op=display&top_100_id=65&limit_num=1&page=1). They are currently #65 on the DJ mag top 100 list. They are ranked higher than any other DJ who has played at MG in recent years, so I'm not sure why there's so much bad press about them on this board. They are actually very well known in trance circles as being great producers. Their remix of John O'Callaghan's track "Big Sky" was voted #1 trance track of 2007 for Armin Van Buuren's A State of Trance radio show. They've recently released several good productions and I think they're a great choice for MG.

I am not sure where the info re Angnelli and Nelson being ranked 898 comes from but DJ mag (which runs the most reputable poll) has them at 65.

Ultimately it is just a popularity contest anyway but you do not get such a high ranking without being very good.

These guys are going to rock!


http://www.djmag.com/index.php?op=top100dj&top100dj_op=results&results_op=2007&search_op=list&limit_num=250&type=&page=7

Yes....The DJ List he's referring to is NOT by any means a good rule of thumb to judge DJs by, whereas the DJ Magazine is.

OK thanks for that but you obviously didnt click the link I provided which ranked them 898 !!!

Oh well better not bitch about it. Time will tell eh.

But who has been dumped to fit these guys in ?

Your assuming that someone has been dumped. It has been pointed out on this wall that all djs are still listed.

I suspect, and this is only my opinion, that nmg have shortened the set times by 30mins for the Hordern djs to allow a 2hr set for A&N. I believe that the Hordern DJs would have been ware of the possibility of shorter set times when they signed on.

Regardless, I think the majority of punters seem happy to have A&N playing.

I can't wait.

PS: I did read you link that listed them at 898.

The point of the previous post was that DJ Mag has them at 65 and that this is used world wide as the most reputable list of DJs.

The DJ list link is only one of a million websites, all of which would have A&N at a different ranking.

Stick with the reputable one.

From the Mardi Gras email...

For the first time in its history, the jewel in Sydney’s party calendar is brought to you by New Mardi Gras. Picture dancing throughout the afternoon in the lush surrounds of the Royal Botanic Gardens to DJ Scott Pullen and watching the sun set over a sparkling Sydney Harbour to the funky beats of Kate Monroe. Then as darkness falls, raising your hands to the moon with Jayson Forbes surrounded by 5,000 of the world’s most beautiful, friendly people.

With a new cocktail lounge area, the sexy sultry sounds of Sydney’s finest DJs and the spectacular production values you have come to expect from both Mardi Gras and Fuzzy, this will be a fabulous harbour side celebration not to be missed. This event will sell out, so get your tickets now!

Sunday 24 February, 3pm - 11pm
Fleet Steps, Mrs Macquaries Point, Sydney
$120 (General), $100 (Members / Concession) available through Ticketek

Think you know your Mardi Party history... then prove it by taking this Flixter Quiz on Facebook. And if ya wanna cheat all the answers can be found on Pinkboard!

http://apps.facebook.com/flixster/quiz/results?q=641131&red=0

what dj list?

you go to clubs, so make your own list.... how many of your favourites are in the UK or US or EU lists? how many gay djs are in the inthemix or 3D top 100s.

Panther, can we please do a top 50 or top 100 DJs 4 Gays List?

There are only 42 Days to Mardi Gras !!

There are only 42 Days to Mardi Gras !!

There are only 42 Days to Mardi Gras !!

There are only 42 Days to Mardi Gras !!

There are only 42 Days to Mardi Gras !!

There are only 42 Days to Mardi Gras !!

There are only 42 Days to Mardi Gras !!

There are only 42 Days to Mardi Gras !!

There are only 42 Days to Mardi Gras !!

There are only 42 Days to Mardi Gras !!

There are only 42 Days to Mardi Gras !!

There are only 42 Days to Mardi Gras !!

There are only 42 Days to Mardi Gras !!

There are only 42 Days to Mardi Gras !!

There are only 42 Days to Mardi Gras !!

There are only 42 Days to Mardi Gras !!

Yeah it all depends on which DJ list you look at but I think the cruncher is their own website as someone else pointed out ie diary page from 2004 ? hello ? if they cant keep their own website updated with these releases guys are talking about from 2007 then will they know our scene ? just cause you do something for another artist in 2007 doesnt mean your DJ'ing is still up to scratch and of more concern is knowledge of our local scene.

But lets wait and see. If the Intl turn out to be duds then my vote goes for either
a) no more Intl DJ's
or
b) only DJ's with a top 10 rating

otherwise lets go with Australian home grown talent.

getting talents in the top 10 ARE YOU KIIDDING??

The amount of money it would cost to hire such an act would be HUGE and blow Mardi Gras budget out of the water. But also remember it's Mardi Gras a celebration of Poofs and Lesbians, so why would we need a top 10 DJ who has no acceptance of our scene to be playing.

Music plus the DJ's/acts need to be gelled with what the party is about!!

I personally think this years line up is great and they have tried to cater for a diverse community which is what the party is about!!

People on hear bitching and moaning, but I think the music styles are perfect. I mean Hex hector for his remixing will blow thr RHI to pieces and with Paul Good Year and the other is great.

Hordern, evn though you may all complain, trance is a very popular genre (and no it's not my fav music style), but it has a huge following and for them it's a perfect place. Agnelli and Nelson are pretty much played through a variety of alias and if anyone has been to either a ruby or toybox you would have experienced there awesome sound.

Lets make the 3oth the celebration it deserves, sure there may be some acts that will fall short on the night, but the party is also what you make it!! It's your journey as well and the music and lightning!!

Enjoy the 30th, I mean we need to start to realise that our community is not as strong as it used to be we need to take a step and appreciate the simply things that we once stood fighting for.

Enough about that! See you on the dance floor!

People you make me laugh!!! Gay DJ's and most of our aussie DJ's are not in any DJ list, does this mean you will stop goping to your club on the weekends?

They have choosen perfect thi syear, and have placed music/DJ popular to what Sydney is wanting.

Lets enjoy and then bitch later if it is SHIT!

Go in poisti9ve and who knows you may even have a good time, who would have thought!!