Pinkboard: Mardi Gras Party 2005 Graffiti Wall 1

The festival guide launched today. The theme for this season is "Our Freedom, Your Freedom". The party, as usual, will be held after the parade on 5 March. Tickets are on sale at $99 until 11 February (less for members); after that they will cost $125. A good reason to get your ticket early.

I have copied the blurb about the party from the Guide:

There’s something a little bit magical about Party. For one night you are transported to another world. A world where time stops and pleasure reigns supreme. This is our playground of thousands of bodies unified to the beat. Here, flesh is the garment of choice. The incredible lights take you on the trip of a lifetime and knowing smiles with best friends you’ve never met tell you it’s a night like no other.

Hit the dancefloor, take in the spectacular surprise shows or chill out and chat with friends old and new. Party is where Mardi Gras season peaks, and it’s not to be missed!

This is one night when you can check your profile at the door. Here, age, sex, race, size and status have no value.

Something a bit different from previous years, this wall is dedicated to the party only, because that's usually all that people talk about anyway. The Festival Wall welcomes your talk about the Mardi Gras Festival, and any others you happen to attend.


History of the Mardi Gras Parties: 1980-1989, 1990-1999, 2000 onwards

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New Mardi Gras

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wow !!! ... so colourful 8-)
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"remember it doesnmt matter who you love as long as you love"
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looking forward to my second Mardi gras, my frist mardi gras with legend draq queen farren, made it the best night. but next year I wont wear white
Sammy D Confirmed -

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countdownboy Confirmed - Didn't I start this trend of multi colours :P -


I cant wait for Mardi Gras.

The vibe that was created in City Live with the Retro Space was in my opinion "THE" success story of 2004.

With City Live being back in play for this party after being unavailable for Sleaze I just know that Retro at Mardi Gras will again be wildly popular. As much as I enjoyed Steven Blomfields set at Sleaze in the Retro Tent I can honestly say that outdoor space is not for me. Having Retro going back indoors at Mardi Gras '05 will (for me) be total bliss.

Its a damn shame City Live only holds about 1,700 people and after the huge queues to get into City Live at Mardi Gras 2004 for retro people will be very aware that once they get into City Live for this party then they should not leave.

I really hope Stephen, Justin and Jake are all applying for a DJ position in the retro space. They all deserve another go.

I really sense that Mardi Gras 2005 will be huge. Given the success of Mardi Gras 2004 that's a big call.
Retro Retro Retro Confirmed -


who needs a dual head full colour laser going beserk when you've got countdownboy's spectral fantasy happening on the oh-so-colourful Mardi Gras 2005 Graffiti wall? ... YAY!!!
Where'd I leave my prismatic glasses -

WOW...fantastic background colour!

For all those who has to fly to Sydney interstate, cheap flights tickets on sale now for parade and party day.

Afetr party tickets are out BEFORE the party tickets...THIS IS GOING TO BE A FANTASTIC YEAR!!!!
u.w. Confirmed - bring back the flower power days! -


looking forward to my second Mardi gras, my frist mardi gras with legend draq queen farren, made it the best night. but next year I wont wear white
Sammy D - Fri 17 Dec 2004 16:55:17

My second Mardi Gras too. Hopefully it won't rain this time. My white sailor pants still has grass and tar stains.
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Well my wish for Mardi Gras is

Hordern - back to its harder style

RHI - back to its commercial/uplifting handbag

Dome - back to its sleazy tribal former self

City Live - Retro
Am I dreaming ? -


Am I dreaming ? - Fri 17 Dec 2004 19:26:51

Yes you are. Particularly with the new restrictions on Dome. Its NEVER going to be a sleazy venue again
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Expressions of Interest letters for DJ positions at Mardi Gras closed today.

Now its time to short list.

Then ask those shortlisted to put in a CD demo.

With all this work still to do I sense that the DJ announcement is going to be very much later than normal.

It could well be late January or even early February before it all comes together. That is a worry.

Stay tuned.
Aiden Confirmed -


So c'mon all you DJ's. A lot of you are so vocal on here... tell us if your submitting a demo for Mardi Gras !!
Adam -

dome = retro. give it over!
city live = LIVE.
peaches, Presets, electrocute, captain comatose, Faker, Stella one Eleven, Wolfmother, Bacode, Buggirl,
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with all the talk re the dome, will it actually be available to NMG? i was led to believe both Pride & BQN have access due to their parties being smaller in number and therefore potentially less traffic.
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NMG is DEFINITELY using Dome under the new restrictions that have been applied to it which state that it is allowed to be a dance space but only for 700 people. At least it gives NMG the option of another inside venue at the party. Thats why the Dome is going to be targeted for funky house music (refer Matt Taylors article on page 13 of this weeks edition of SX News)
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So c'mon all you DJ's. A lot of you are so vocal on here... tell us if your submitting a demo for Mardi Gras !!
Adam - Sat 18 Dec 2004 08:14:16

Yes Adam, I have submitted for Mardi Gras. Lets hope I get shortlisted.
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Could somebody from Mardi Gras please advise approximately when the DJ's for the patry are going to be picked and announced ? As usual I don't feel inclined to fork out money on an event until I know who's going to be the entertainment on the night.
Retro Trance House Lover -

Retro Trance House Lover - Mon 20 Dec 2004 08:12:54

I'm pretty sure that you won't get an official response from Mardi Gras by posting your question on here. You're best to email them directly and ask your question. Otherwise you'll probably just get someone's guesstimate.

Once you do have a response, however, be kind enough to post their reply on here :o)
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I heard that the MG Party Working Group have already contacted an international DJ to do an 8hr trance set at the party.

I find this hard to believe, however if it's true, it's absurd. Has anyone else heard of this?
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Replying to " - Mon 20 Dec 2004 16:15:00 "

Lovey, you must be new to this wall ?

There will be nothing but rumours, innuendo's , lies,
and all other postings about NMG.

Just wait till they actually announce something before you either congratulate them or abuse them.
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More rumours please :)
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Lets just hope Mardi Gras gets their Priorites right and gets a decent sound system organised for the next party before forking out big money for any "rumoured" international dj's.
Theres no point having great dj's/Music with the abysmal production values that were at Sleaze, It's unfair to the Dj's and the people paying $100 give or take for the ticket
Nick -

If I wanted to go see a big international DJ, I would go see Ferry Corsten or Armin van Buuren. But that's not what Mardi Gras is about. Mardi Gras is a community event, keep it with our local community DJs - they know what style music we like better, anyway.
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Well I can sure have a lot of fun with 699 other people in the Dome. Bring it back - whatever the size, whatever the music (even retro)!
Paul Diamondo -

Paul Diamondo - Tue 21 Dec 2004 09:14:01

God you're a trooper :)
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well everyone's been a little subdued on here so far. or maybe thats just comparative to me!

i'm getting very excited, my second mardi gras coming up and i can't wait!!!!

cher concert and mardi gras in the one trip to sydney! how much fun can one boy stand.

also, i love the visuals for ths MG season and i love "our freedom, your freedom" slogan.

can't wait can't wait can't wait.

also, a birdie told me bette midler will be in town doing shows around MG time. anyone else know anything about this??
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Mardi Gras 2004 was a hit
Slease 2004 was a miss
You know how to do it New MG.
Keep it diverse, no 8 hour dj sets (unless its danny tenaglia), no more Atlas, less white lighting.
line up ?
rhi: commercial & up & girly: (leal, shikeki, taylor ect)
horden: deep & dark: (drayton, rollins, buttz, kelly)
city live: retro: (kilby, scott, blomfield, shanobear)
dome: women only: (sveta, gemma, fiesty, monroe)
mardi mardi mardi! -

city live: retro: (kilby, scott, blomfield, shanobear)
mardi mardi mardi! - Tue 21 Dec 2004 15:29:20

Wow! I'm honoured to be mentioned in the same bracket as the big 3 retro boys (but surely Jimmy Dee should have been there too, his sets at retro sexual have been sensational this year!). Maybe you've heard about my newly acquired remix of S-S-Single Bed :-)

My expression of interest is in and IF I make the shortlist, I'll have to decide which style of music to play. Following in the footsteps of the aformentioned 4 DJ's is a daunting task.
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I'm really sad to be missing this years festival as I'll be in the US at the time! This will be the first year since I moved to Sydney that I haven't made it to Fair Day. Plus the other events looks sensational and New Mardi Gras should be given a huge pat on the back for putting together such a diverse and full program.

If I was going to be here, I'd be entering the netball comp. I could see Ms Golightly playing goal attack, while my partner played center and I played defense. The biggest problem would be finding the ladies to fill the other positions.
Shanobear Confirmed - Great legs in a netball skirt or so I've been told! -


Two well known DJs, Crawford and Kilby, have confirmed that they haven't submitted for MG 05.

Any other DJs want to shed light on whether they have submitted or not?
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RHI - commercial/handbag

Hordern - hard trance/hard energy

City Live- Retro

Dome - tribal/sleazy

No separate hall or spaces for one sex.
Tried and true -


RHI - commercial/handbag; Hordern - hard trance/hard energy; City Live- Retro; Dome - tribal/sleazy. No separate hall or spaces for one sex.
Tried and true - Tue 21 Dec 2004 19:44:15

Four spaces is unaffordable I suspect and risks low numbers in each spot. Three spaces should do it. Let's drop City Live. It's hateful. Bring back the Dome. It's back in use - we know that. It has such a special hot vibe. Dear NMG - please please bring back the Dome!!!
Paul Diamondo -


Paul Diamondo - Tue 21 Dec 2004 23:01:30

You havent been keeping up have you ?

Dome is *CONFIRMED* for Mardi Gras playing funky house music with a capacity of 700.

City Live is definitely happening. Retro after last years success is a definite must.

The Hordern and the RHI are unchanged.

Last years Mardi Gras was a huge success but the three venues were not enough. Adding in the Dome with a smallish capacity of 700 would be just about right
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Any news o Harbour Party/Azure didn't see anything in guide but heard Wayne G was going to be playing again. Anyone know anything definite?
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It is OFFICIAL, the UNDERWEAR party (invitation only) will be on again this year. Wohooooo
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UnderBear is on too. It sold out and was soooo hot last year.
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Lets get the special guest rumours going...

So good old gay friendly Cher is hitting our shores around Mardi Gras time, what are the current odds on here turning up at the party?

Well a friend of a f*** buddy who slept with the boyfriend of this hottie who deilvers the mail to this guy who works at New Mardi Gras said she doing it... so it must be true!!
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There is a world of diferene between Underbear at the Shift and open to the public and Underwear, a private M.E.N party by invitation only. Does anyone know if the latter is really happening?
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- Thu 23 Dec 2004 09:07:42
very true, the first one was attitude free and full of guys of all shapes and sizes (yes even muscle marys and ladies)wanting to have fun.....one of the best parties I've ever been to.
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Does anyone know roughly when the DJs will be informed if they have been shortlisted, will it be publically announced by NMG, or will this depend on whether the DJs themselves choose to let us know on here?
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very much looking forward to the UnderBear party as heard last year's was soo much fun!
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I don't think the shortlisted dj's get announced by NMG and it's up to the individual to say something.

Anyone heard anything yet?
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Thanks for all the comments about the Underbear party this year. I know the 4 DJ's involved all had a great time and I had a huge time both during my set and on the dancefloor afterwards. In fact, my partner and I ended up being the last ones to leave the dancefloor on the night, before adjouring with a few of the other DJ's and friends to the Oxford for post party drinks.

It was such a fun party to play at and such a shame I'm not going to be back from my holiday in time to attend next years.
Shanobear Confirmed -


what date is the underbear party???
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Ok, so NMG probably won't announce the shortlist. What was the rough time frame for Sleaze between when the submissions closed and DJs started announcing that they had been shortlisted? About a month?
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Anyone heard anything yet?
- Thu 23 Dec 2004 12:21:35

It's probably too early to know.
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No, I haven't been keeping up. I checked this board for the first time just the other day. So - the Dome is confirmed! Wow! 700 sounds fine. I doubt the security people will be counting. We'll all cluster together really tightly. And funky house sounds OK. I don't care too much. It's the people and attitude that matter most. This year's party should be great. The one last year was handicapped by the rain, damp grass (I love sitting on it during breaks) and *appalling* humidity. It's not likely to happen twice. I can't wait!
Paul Diamondo -

Anyone heard anything yet?
- Thu 23 Dec 2004 12:21:35

[insert drum roll]
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Ok, so NMG probably won't announce the shortlist. What was the rough time frame for Sleaze between when the submissions closed and DJs started announcing that they had been shortlisted? About a month?
- Thu 23 Dec 2004 12:56:23

For Sleaze 2004 one poster wrote that written submissions for DJs closed 23rd July. A few DJs were posting about their shortlisting two days later. Being so close to Xmas this time around, the process may take a bit longer. I'm sure the more regular voices on Pinkboard won't take long to let us all know.
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what date is the underbear party???
- Thu 23 Dec 2004 12:37:09

the Wednesday b4 parade/party
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I'm sure the more regular voices on Pinkboard won't take long to let us all know.
- Thu 23 Dec 2004 16:23:38

Thanks. So we should expect to hear from people shortly after the NYE come down has finished ;o)
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countdownboy Confirmed - Merry Christmas Everyone. -


I suppose something should be said about the fact that their are 69 days to Mardi Gras (dirty grin)
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I suppose something should be said about the fact that their are 69 days to Mardi Gras (dirty grin)
- Sun 26 Dec 2004 08:36:13

You just had to beat coundownboy, didn't you? ;)
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city live: retro: (kilby, scott, blomfield, shanobear)
dome: women only: (sveta, gemma, fiesty, monroe)
mardi mardi mardi! - Tue 21 Dec 2004 15:29:20

Dome: Women only... Get Real...!
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I could cross-dress I suppose.
Paul Diamondo -

Hey Paul Diamondo - with Dome only allowed 700 should be enough to have the 4 Halls and get them back to the way everyone loved them without mixing up the styles like what happened at Sleaze -
RHI back to its commercial/handbag/house style

Hordern back to its harder edge styles

City Live - keep its Retro

Dome back to its tribal/sexy/dirty style
Just a thought NMG -


The history of the Mardi Gras parties is now open http://www.pinkboard.com.au/history/mardigras. Relive all those moments!

If you can remember anything I have left out please email me.
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Well as a gay women coming down from the NT to Mardi Gras for the third time I certainly hope there is no separate women's space coz there's always way too much attitude with those kinds of spaces!
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Well as a gay women coming down from the NT to Mardi Gras for the third time I certainly hope there is no separate women's space coz there's always way too much attitude with those kinds of spaces!
G. - Thu 30 Dec 2004 15:09:48

Make sure you send this feedback to New Mardi Gras. I'm sure they would definitely appreciate it.

www.mardigras.org.au
Murray H Confirmed -


Well as a gay women coming down from the NT to Mardi Gras for the third time I certainly hope there is no separate women's space coz there's always way too much attitude with those kinds of spaces!
G. - Thu 30 Dec 2004 15:09:48

Here Here... At last a refreshing comment on this issue.
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I am starting to become VERY VERY concerned at the DJ selection process for Mardi Gras.

The clock is ticking and we are now less than 10 weeks away from the big night.

Expressions of interest deadline was on December 17 which was 2 weeks ago. I've heard that Mardi Gras got a communication out to some better known DJ's that the ISP server for Mardi Gras had not been delivering emails to the email address that DJ's were expected to send their applications to.

This to my mind suggests that the number of better known DJ's whose applications had been received must have been significantly down and they have sent an SOS out to other name DJ's asking them to resubmit.

The fact that the shortlisting has not yet finished means that we are probably still a month away from the DJ selections being confirmed. They haven't even got to the stage where they have asked for DJ's to send in CD Demos. And lets not forget if DJ's want to put in a "legal" demo they have to get clearance from APRA which could take a lot more time than is actually left.

Normally DJ's for Mardi Gras are picked by mid January. I think it's going to be February before it happens this year and that in my mind is an extremely worrying thing.

The clock is ticking ticking ticking. Time is running out.
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Tick Tock my Clock - Thu 30 Dec 2004 22:57:44

I can confirm at least part of what was said here with my expression of interest going south due to the server. I resubmitted again,forwarding on the original so there was proof I had submitted before the deadline, a week after the deadline just to make sure.

As for the demo cd, I have been working on it based on the style of music I usually play. If this doesn't fit into the theme of any of the halls, then I'll miss out. At least I have a cd ready to be submitted (and the license application ready to send to AMCOS not APRA) which represents the style of music I usually play, not one that is based on the memo from Mardi Gras saying what they want to hear. I'm submitting what I usually play, if it's what MG want that's great. If not, then I'll be on the dancefloor having fun to whoever does get selected.

I agree that the DJ selection may not be until late january or even early Feb and that is a worry for me as a DJ. That doesn't leave a lot of time to put together a killer set for the night. Of course it can be done but more lead time would have been better.

As for a ticket sales point of view, I don't think the DJ line up is really that important. There will be probably 5 different dance areas (RHI, Horden, City Live, Dome & the up&comers area) with at least 3 dj's in each. If you can't find some style of music, or dj, that suits you out of that range, then perhaps staying home with some cd's would be the best option. For everyone else, I would suggest getting your early bird tickets before the price goes up.
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get your tickets early - Fri 31 Dec 2004 06:09:22

I resubmitted, also quoting the original email header. Still havent heard back from them, even confirmed that the email had been recieved.

Should it be sent again?
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I resubmitted, also quoting the original email header. Still havent heard back from them, even confirmed that the email had been recieved.

Should it be sent again?
- Fri 31 Dec 2004 08:40:26

As a precaution, I have resent my original email, asking them to please confirm that they have received my submission. I would hate to think some of missed out simply because of an email problem.
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I hope none of these comments about missing emails, etc are coming from any of the 'out and proud' DJ fraternity.

Case in point guys - how can we believe who has submitted or not unless someone puts a name to their claim?
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Just heard some interesting news about Mardi gras Party this year.

Apparently NMG are so confident that the numbers of overseas tourists to visit Sydney this MG season are on the up and up that the party is going to be expanded beyond what we saw last year and closer to the halycon days of 1994-1999

The word is that there will be a total of EIGHT dance spaces and the party sell out figure will be about 20,000 compared to last years 17,000.

The 8 Dance spaces are likely to be

RHI
Hordern
Dome
City Live
Outside City Live (same music as inside City Live)
Tent area between RHI & Hordern (where it was at Sleaze)
Fox & Lion
Lawn area outside Dome

I like this idea and I particularly like it because it will again give everyone a space to find what sort of music they want to hear. I hope one of these spaces will also again show off up and coming DJ's.
White Dove Confirmed -


Fox & Lion?
THAT would be interesting
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Fox & Lion?
THAT would be interesting
- Sat 1 Jan 2005 19:45:48

Looking at Panther's Mardi Gras history, they've used Fox and Lion at previous parties. Would definitely make things very interesting.

I've only been to two Mardi Gras parties (the last two), and I thought they were big and easy to get lost in (which I frequently do!). I can now look forward to getting lost at a whole new magnitude.

So has anyone heard any word on what's happening with the DJ selection process? Can any of the DJs who have submitted shed some light on whether they have been contacted at all?
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countdownboy Confirmed -


So c'mon all you DJ's. A lot of you are so vocal on here... tell us if your submitting a demo for Mardi Gras !!
Adam - Sat 18 Dec 2004 08:14:16

I have decided not to submit. My fingers are still a little burned after the Sleaze submission process blew up in my face.

I also have reservations about the sound quality and the event management company they use.

The whole thing is a little more trouble than it is worth, for me anyway. I will not be submitting for NMG parties until these problems have been ironed out.

I wish them all the success in the world and I am sure they will choose some first rate local DJ's. Lord knows, there are plenty to choose from!!!
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Does anyone know if there is going to be an up and coming section this year? Surely with eight dance spaces they will be able to allocate just one for us new djs.
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There's a DJ spin-off as part of the festival program Sun 13 Feb @ Stonewall
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www.jakekilby.com - Tue 4 Jan 2005 19:13:25

Thanks for not submitting Jake. Now I've got a better chance of getting a gurnsey. Hooray !!
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rhi: commercial & up & girly: (leal, shikeki, taylor ect)
horden: deep & dark: (drayton, rollins, buttz, kelly)
city live: retro: (kilby, scott, blomfield, shanobear)
dome: women only: (sveta, gemma, fiesty, monroe)
mardi mardi mardi! - Tue 21 Dec 2004 15:29:20

very close to my picks:

rhi: girly: rado, shikeki, peter fam
horden: dirty: rollins, mike kelly, chip, sveta
city live: diverse retro: jake kilby, justin scott, calvin wong
dome: funky: monroe, sista p, renae
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While the colors are lovvverly, they do make it very very hard to read .......
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www.jakekilby.com - Tue 4 Jan 2005 19:13:25


Despite what Give me a go ;) - Wed 5 Jan 2005 00:03:30 says, there's going to be a lot of people who will miss you this year Jake.

Just ask anyone who was in City Live for last years party!
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So has anyone heard any word on what's happening with the DJ selection process? Can any of the DJs who have submitted shed some light on whether they have been contacted at all?
- Sat 1 Jan 2005 20:46:26

No such contact yet... Only that they have confirmed my submissions had been received.

This year, I have put in 2 submissions:

1. Commercial / Handbag / House style
2. Retro

I was great working together with Stephen & Jake doing Retro in Stage 11 (City Live) last year, and I would have to say that it was probably my most enjoyable gig to date. To have a repeat of this, would be just great to say the least.

However, having said this, I wouldn't mind giving the RHI a go, to be able to spin a good selection of HI NRG vocal-filled commercial dance tunes.

But then again, I may not get asked to play at all. Oh well, I guess we'll just have to wait & see who & what the party committee decide on... tick tock tick tock tick tock.....

Hope you all had a great NYE (judging by the party wall, most of you have) and look forward to another great year in 2005!
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"No such contact yet... Only that they have confirmed my submissions had been received"

are you talking written submissions or have you been shortlisted and submitted cd's?

I know of a DJ from the US who put in his written expression of interest, but has not been advised if he has been shortlisted or not.

Surely someone from Mardi Gras could provide some sort of update?
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- Wed 5 Jan 2005 09:20:23

I spoke with one of the Party working group co-chairs via email 2 days ago and was advised that the DJ shortlisting process has *NOT* yet been completed and no DJ's have yet been advised if they have been added to the shortlist. This means that no DJ's have yet been asked to submit a demo CD.

I hope that answers your question :)
Stephen Blomfield Confirmed -


I have just heard that shortlisted DJ's will be advised that they need to submit a demo CD shortly. The date this is due by will be 22 January. Seems they didn't learn from last time and have not given DJ's enough time to get APRA approval (again).
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are you talking written submissions or have you been shortlisted and submitted cd's?
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Sorry... My mistake. It should read "Expression Of Interest" and not "Submissions"
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Nooooo Jake kilby you can't go. Your sets were amazing.
JK fan -

Doesn't matter who's playing or not, unless MG address the RHI sound problem - publicly & now - I suggest organising a boycott. I refuse to be ripped off again. Isn’t there a legal authority we can report them to? Surely they can't be allowed to charge thousands & thousands of people money for a clearly inferior product? And they know they're doing it. Isn’t that fraud?
a vote of no confidence - boycott! -

a vote of no confidence - boycott! - Wed 5 Jan 2005 16:55:01

Number 1: It does matter who's playing. Try telling that to anyone complaining that the DJ selection process is taking too long.

Number 2: Mardi Gras is a publicly accountable organisation. I am sure that if anyone can be bothered making contact with them about these issues, they will get a decent response.

Number 3: There are many other organisations that choose to openly exploit queer culture. Mardi Gras is not one of them.

Try targetting multi-national corporations if you want to put your energy to good use. Or get involved with the party working group. Your influence could be used to great effect there.
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With all this talk of DJ selection I thought that I would let you know about lighting selection. Out tenders were due on Friday 17th December, with any presentations to be done on Monday 20th December, im assuming at the board meeting? I was informed that I had been unsuccessful on Tuesday 21st December. A few things concerned me with the tender process:

*the time from when tenders were due to when we were informed seemed to be quite short considering that mardi gras recieved a "number of submissions"

*Mardi Gras asked for a full CAD file of our designs. This is normally only given to a client after signing a contract, not when tendering for a gig.

*Mardi Gras again asked the designers what we expected to get paid for the design, week long bump in, programming and operation of the event. This is kinda ridiculous as most of us know what they are prepared to pay and know that they dont negotiate.

However I still tendered, I estmiated that I spent about 10hours on drawing up my design, and answering all the questions in the evaluation criteria.

I was very dissapoited that I didnt get a room and even more so didnt even get an interview. I think the worst thing though was recieving the regection via email. No phone call not even a proper letter on letter head... a plain email.
Brad W Confirmed - www.lightwright.com.au -


I just got a "shortlisted" email from MG.

CD Demo's are due by January 22.
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Does anyone remember the "good old days" when you could dance in the RHI, to fun, lyrical music, instead of lifting your feet up slightly and swaying to crystal inspired repeditive dribble.

And they wonder why there is a trend away from dance parties.

Me - I'll be under the mirror ball praying for a classic Wnitney track. How will I fair????????
bring back the fun -


bring back the fun - Wed 5 Jan 2005 23:22:55

I TOTALLY agree with you. The fun music that was so catchy was a 1990's thing. All the BEST commercial dance music came from the era 1992 - 1998 in my opinion. After that it went south for the winter and never returned.

Might I suggest you give the RHI the flick and spend the night in the retro space at Mardi Gras. It'll be right up your alley.

Let's hope they put the retro back indoors into City Live. It was such a hoot there in 2004.
Retro Retro Retro Confirmed -


I just got a "shortlisted" email from MG.
CD Demo's are due by January 22.
- Wed 5 Jan 2005 22:15:39

Mmm. Great to see they have given DJ's plenty of time to get APRA approval. What is that? 2 weeks?
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Retro Retro Retro.... yes agree with you, but there is plenty of fun music from the last few years, and present also. Put *that* in the Rhi - call it retro, handbag, whatever, but it should be catchy, dancy music you can squeel your tits off to.

You know.....the "Oh I love this song" sort of thing.

I heard that at sleaze and it was like, what the hell is this? Industrial trash-can lid clanging and bongo drums. Yeah, love it.
bring back the fun -


There is a blanket licence you can get from APRA for demo's takes a week to process as well. Just recently introduced by them to assist with DJ demo's and the complaints they have received about the process.
APRA watchdog -

APRA watchdog - Thu 6 Jan 2005 09:34:52

Any news on what this licence is called?
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a vote of no confidence - boycott! - Wed 5 Jan 2005 16:55:01

How lame. How sad. Still comming down love? Fred Nile is waiting for you - go on, see how the other half live.
I'll be at Mardi Gras - despite the crappy Fox location - as it is our community event. We will stand united without you, strong and proud. Despite your genuine concerns of what will the RHI sounds like, for many others there are 365 other days we are celebrating about.
i believe (and dont even like cher) - wait a minute, are you a family first mole????? -


Brad,

Does this mean that straight lighting designers have got the gig? What the hell is going on? If we have gay, lesbian etc. designers who, for over 20 years, have done the lighting designs on OUR parties , brilliantly, why the change? Not for the sake of a few dollars I hope? Or was your rejection because you've had the balls to stand up and make comments about what has really been going on at OUR Mardi Gras?

This whole process (and I use that word very lightly) really sucks. No competitive quotes for supply of equipment, as per the previous Treasurer's requests, non Gay lighting designers.... Will not be long before there will be no gay performers at all.

Isn't it time we got back to the basics, used our community better, embraced our community better, did it better?

The NMG President was up in Lismore and saw a truly community gig. Maybe we can learn something about that feeling again . It's not that it's not here, alive and well in Sydney Town - it's just we keep ignoring it.
Noisy Gypsy Confirmed -


My observation of MG and Sleaze over the past few years has been that we predominantly have three styles of music, Trance (RHI), Tribal (Horden), and Retro (usually City Live, aka Stage 11). Can I please suggest that we introduce Funky House to the mix? In my opinion music at dance parties should feel sexy, and put a smile on your face! DTPM went off at Tank last weekend, the place was pumping and grinding literally till the last song (well done to the Fag Tag crew), I think we have evidence to show that Funky House is what a lot of people enjoy and would love to hear more off. I am interested to hear how other party goers feel about Funky House as a style of music for our big parties :-)
Boogie Boy -

Boogie Boy - Thu 6 Jan 2005 14:04:54

Could you please give us more of a description (possibly with examples) of funky house.
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Noisy Gypsy - Thu 6 Jan 2005 13:40:28

"Isn't it time we got back to the basics, used our community better, embraced our community better, did it better?"

I wholeheartedly agree we can generally do everything better. Do you have specific suggestions about how to do it better?
6 Sigma Black Belt -


Can I please suggest that we introduce Funky House to the mix?Boogie Boy - Thu 6 Jan 2005 14:04:5 Go and listen to....
Funky house is everywhere in Sydney. Try Oddessy House on sundays. or Mars, or Lord bob.
Djs who spin funky house ?? ...Kate Munroe, Alex Taylor, Alan Thompson, Junior B, Richard Wiess, Steve Sonius, and many more!
The Dome looks earmarked fo funky house - which has been mentioned... This aint no new sound from the underground sweetie. Where you been for the last 10 years? Remember dtpm has being running for 12 years in the uk. Get thee to acetate records and catch up!
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By what Brad and Noisy Gypsy has stated It appears to me that Mardi Gras is outsourcing their party tenders outside of the community, regardless of those who put their heart and creativity into submissions to make it an Amazing Party for US.
This should NOT be on!!
I remember reading on the Sleaze 04 wall that Brad had made a submission for Sleaze ball and the same thing happened,one of the most talented lighting guys around submits a design and it gets knocked back but we end up with a BORING generic rig that lacked creativity and was done by some no name source??
who is making these decisions?? clearly MG Party looks like its going to be another repeat of Sleaze - a very dismal party (in my opinion) compared to Mardi Gras and Sleaze Parties of the past.
If I hear they are using the same sound company again I will not be buying a ticket.
There are no Parties like this anywhere else in the world, Black and Blue in Montreal is the only event that comes close but that is a fairly mixed event now. It's so important that we protect what we have and continue to develop the high standard of Party that Mardi Gras has excelled at in the past and unfortunatly going by the last party its taking a big slide down.
B.T.W....Who is this event management company that Mardi Gras are using anyway....as a Member I'd love to write a letter to MG and ask why they continue to use them??
Nick -

MSF Event Management.

Event critics, why not volunteer. You can develop skills and take the helm yourself one day with any luck. I doubt NMG is rejecting volunteers:)
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Just to know where I'm coming from:

a) I'm not a NMG member so have never seen any financials on any parties;
b) I attend many of the large scale parties and hence can identify relative value;
c) I've no idea of what the various elements of a party cost, but presume the 'local' DJ's and performers get paid a pittance of what 'big name' overseas DJ's get paid to perform at events.

Okay, now let's assume that of the 17,000 that attended last year's party that maybe as few as 10,000 actually paid for their tickets, and for arguments sake that NMG got $100, giving nett revenue from ticket sales at $1 million. On top of that there is probably a quite reasonable amount received in sponsorship. By my rather simplistic reasoning, that's a shitload of money to have to spend on putting on a party. But to be totally honest, I really don't see it being returned into the production of the party.

I have to agree with what Noise Gypsy has posted in that the key production area for a party will always be, for most people, the audio. No matter how good the DJ or lighting is, if the sound sux then the party sux.

Is there anyone that can shed some light (preferrably laser .. hehe) on roughly what it costs to provide decent sound and lighting at a major event? For the ticket price, it just seems to me that NMG doesn't provide equavilent value to the big parties/events put on by private enterprise, and I would expect that a not for profit community organisation with a significant volunteer force should provide better value for money.
Some of life's mysteries -


Some of life's mysteries - Thu 6 Jan 2005 19:41:51

Actually, there would have been far more than 10,000 who actually paid for their tickets. Comp tickets were pretty much non-existent, and this has been the case since Sydney Gay and Lesbian Mardi Gras went into administration. I would estimate that approximately 13,000 paid for either early bird or full price tickets, with 4,000 who paid for concession or volunteer priced tickets. That's far closer to $1.7m than it is to $1m.

Yes, they would get lots of sponsorship dosh on top of this. I think NMG set the minimum sponsorship package at $10,000. I don't think it would be inaccurate to estimate that an easy couple hundred thousand could have been raised through sponsorship. This sponsorship could also include in-kind support, discounted services, etc.

There's a lot of money that seems to be unaccounted for. Surely it can't cost nearly $2m to produce a party like this. Perhaps it's seen as the fundraiser for the Parade, Fair Day, Launch, etc but I thought that's what Sleaze was for.
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I'll be at Mardi Gras - despite the crappy Fox location - as it is our community event. We will stand united without you, strong and proud. Despite your genuine concerns of what will the RHI sounds like, for many others there are 365 other days we are celebrating about.
i believe - Thu 6 Jan 2005 11:37:26

I'm not going to support MG just for the sake of supporting them. They've delivered inadequate party after inadequate party, I'm not going to be gay-guilted into confirming that it's ok to treat our community like that. I’ll support the whole festival & parade but NOT the party. If you think that makes me a family first mole - lol - well I think you're the one coming down with a touch of paranoia!

if the sound sux then the party sux.
Some of life's mysteries - Thu 6 Jan 2005 19:41:51

Thank.You.
feel the music -


The fun music that was so catchy was a 1990's thing. All the BEST commercial dance music came from the era 1992 - 1998 in my opinion. After that it went south for the winter and never returned.
Retro Retro Retro - Wed 5 Jan 2005 23:29:57

I heard that at sleaze and it was like, what the hell is this? Industrial trash-can lid clanging and bongo drums
bring back the fun - Thu 6 Jan 2005 00:41:52

I don't get it. Retro fans are allowed to slag off anything they feel like and make broad sweeping generalisations, yet my constructive counter point doesn't even get posted?
*silenced* - George Orwell was on to something -


Until a few months ago, NMG was still paying off the debts associated with SGLMG. It's only now really got a clean slate and can start being a little less careful about spending money.

Perhaps people will remember these issues when the AGM happens in a few months and raise them there, but until then, the financials from last year are available in the 2004 annual report:
http://www.mardigras.org.au/About/AGM.aspx
CeeJay Confirmed -


My memory is that New Mardi Gras has had one not so good party and 3 really good parties. I'm sure if you look at the old walls here you will see this. Apart from sound issues in the RHI at the last 2 parties and an average last party they have done really well. Do other people have short memories? Or are they still coming down from New Year?
Arti Confirmed -

The cost of runnig the festival eats into the party budget, especialy the cost of runnig the street parade, its is un-beleivably expencive.

But one of the other big problems NMG has is that money from ticket sales to the party is not become available to NMG till after the party, it is something to do with Ticketek being in control of ticket sales at Fox, and so NMG has to battle with limited funds and the credit history of SGLMG so its a hard for contractors to provide services and not get paid till weeks after the event.

And as for looking for voluenteers, its hard for us who have done in years past, and who the skills needed ( 12yrs in a row for me ) to lend a hand, when NMG make such bad choices with sound and lighting contracts being handed out to non community organizations, esp when we have some of the best people available offering their services at the same , if not cheaper cost.

I guess we if all want to "know" what really goes on, join the NMG board, put in the hundreds of un-paid hours and try to make a change, some have tried, and failed, and thats why we are loosing the so called community sprit you see at other partys like Tropical Fruits and alike.

NMG has got to look at its own history of the last 3 big partys its has produced, and listen to the community voice, look back at the parties that we had in the 80's, and 90's that made it famous, and look to that being the standard from here on, other wise we will loose the energy, and end up with a token tourist event. Not what we want, or need.
Here's Hoping -


NMG uses the profit made from the party to pay loans, pay rent, pay wages, pay for utilties (phone, electricity) etc...there ain't much left from the party profit, and NMG put on the best party they can with the budget (which is way less than you guys obviously think!!). If you want to actually speak with some sort of facts behind you, why not join the party (or even better the finance) working groups, lend a hand, and learn about business!!
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Working in a venue myself, (not ont of the one's used for mardi gras, but i expect that the processes are very similar) I may be able to explain why the seemingly enormous ammount of money being redeived be mardi gras isn't necessarily reflected in the production of the parties

All of the monies that are paid to Ticketek by people purchasing tickets are retained by Ticketek (not given to NMG) and are then transferred to Playbill Venue Management (the company that manages the THI, the Hordern & the Dome) Playbill would then most likely not release this money to NMG untill after the event had happened and after Playbills fees for venue staffing, security, cleaning, power, repairs to any damage and venue hire itself (for nearly a whole week, not a small sum!)had been deducted from the ammount.

So money made on last years Mardi Gras Party and Sleaze is what is being used to fund this year's festival, parade and party, and as they are, as previous posters have pointed out, a newish organisation recovering from a very bad situation, they certainly wouldn't want to be cutting things too fine on the financial side. After all the first point of the NMG mission statement is "Secure the assets of Sydney Gay and Lesbian Mardi Gras Ltd."

I'm all set to have a fantastic time whatever happens, after all Mardi Gras is a celebration
Can't Wait! - It's all about mindset -


Could you please give us more of a description (possibly with examples) of funky house.
- Thu 6 Jan 2005 15:41:09

A great collaboration between Steven Allkins and Paul Goodyear has just been released. 'BURNIN UP' is a good example of funky house and it's made by two of Sydney's finest. Samples can be found at: http://www.mezabel.com/cart/customer/product.php?productid=65259&cat=&page=
Funk Mistress -


Can I please suggest that we introduce Funky House to the mix?Boogie Boy - Thu 6 Jan 2005 14:04:5 Go and listen to....
Funky house is everywhere in Sydney. Try Oddessy House on sundays. or Mars, or Lord bob.
Djs who spin funky house ?? ...Kate Munroe, Alex Taylor, Alan Thompson, Junior B, Richard Wiess, Steve Sonius, and many more!
The Dome looks earmarked fo funky house - which has been mentioned... This aint no new sound from the underground sweetie. Where you been for the last 10 years? Remember dtpm has being running for 12 years in the uk. Get thee to acetate records and catch up!

Thanks for your input!!! I spend most of my night upstairs at QN because of Kate and the funky house music she offers, and on most work visits to London I squeeze in a visit to DTPM for the same reason. I am very aware that this style of music is not "new", my suggestion was to perhaps have a hall at the bigger dance parties dedicated to funky house.

Boogie Boy - Thu 6 Jan 2005 14:04:54
Could you please give us more of a description (possibly with examples) of funky house.
- Thu 6 Jan 2005 15:41:09

A few of tracks that I enjoy which I consider to be funky house.

1. SOS, Skylark Mix featuring Polinam, produced by A Studio.
2. Where we can boogie, Disco darlings, produced by Funky People.
3. Just a little more love, David Guetta featuring Chris Willis, Wally Lopez remix.

Have fun day people.
Boogie Boy -


Here's Hoping - Fri 7 Jan 2005 09:28:13

You are so incredibly wrong. I suggest you actually read the financials of Annual Reports going back 6 odd years. In the good old days, before the collapse, Mardi Gras was 'losing' some $400-$600k on the Festival. It was this aspect, and an Admin cost close to $1M that caused the final 'camel's back'.

Now, Mardi Gras does not openly produce large festival events and umbrellas the whole Festival by way of promotion and publicity, at a total cost of around $100k (I think). It was a philosophy taken out of necessity and looking at last year's Festival, worked really well.

The Parade, for the unenlightened, is why Mardi Gras exists. The power of that statement once a year is so prominent and Mradi Gras would be nothing more than a dance party promoter without it. It is the meaning, the soul, the reason. And, for the record, costs peanuts to produce given the complexity and participation of the event - my memory thinks less than $250,000.

Given the two parties are there to fundraise for OUR Parade and Festival promotion costs, and they profit over a $1,000,000 (without checking), there's plenty left over for Admin and Special projects.

The task that the Treasurer and the Board have balancing the 'big picture' is awesome and the priorities as evaluated after the collapse of SGLMG are clear, and they have followed those community wishes.

Hell, get your facts right based on history before attacking the Board.
Noisy Gypsy Confirmed -


Could you please give us more of a description (possibly with examples) of funky house.
- Thu 6 Jan 2005 15:41:09


Some of the recent ones that come to mind are:

Dusk till dawn - Danny Howells
Straight from the heart - Loose Change
Rocking music - Martin Solveig
You never know - Marly
Stand by me - Mr Timothy feat. Inaya Day
Lola's theme - Shapeshifters (I know, bordering on disco, and becoming very commercial)
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Question - What does a Trance DJ from Finland (of all places) and New Mardi Gras have in common ?

Answer - 8 hours in Hordern Pavilion on Saturday 5.3.05
SHAME ON YOU MARDI GRAS - In Support of our local (and far more talented) DJ's -
Pinkboard is unable to verify this statement.


Unless you have produced any type Mardi Gras events i.e. dance parties, then some of the above statements are somewhat inaccurate.

Firstly, there are many costs involved. For example, public liability, venue hire (for 3-4 days to include bump in/out), APRA fees (each track played attracts a fee i.e. royalty) and the list goes on and on. The overheads are mammoth for a dance party especially when there is no infrastructure, which a promoter/event producer must provide i.e. sound, lighting, staging, seating, tents, (medical etc), cleaners, security etc etc etc. Many complain about the cost of tickets but have no idea of the costs involved in producing an event.

Secondly, in accordance with the Code of Practice, a ticket reseller will retain all proceeds from ticket sales in a secure and segregated bank account until after the Event has been presented, unless specifically stated otherwise as a special clause in this agreement. Subject to no cancellation of the Event or any other conditions requiring refunds, the total due to the Promoter will be paid. Unsold tickets will be available for collection after the event." This means that any revenue received is not available until after the event. This was introduced to protect consumers and issued by the Australian Entertainment Industry Association (www.aeia.org.au).

Lastly, majority of suppliers require 60%-80% payment prior to an event. Many want 100% due to the decline in dance parties i.e. some promoters don't like to pay when breakeven has not been achieved! Given MG's history, a supplier would probably want 100% prior. Funds need to be available and not only for the party but for the festival and parade.

Mardi Gras will only last as long as support is shown.
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Mardi Gras will only last as long as support is shown.
- Sat 8 Jan 2005 10:04:52

Support is only given when earned, not due to some misguided feeling of responsibility forced upon you by the community.
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Mardi Gras will only last as long as support is shown.
- Sat 8 Jan 2005 10:04:52
Im in! Dont want a contract or a gig either! Or banging trance! But Im still in supporting!
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Unless you have produced any type Mardi Gras events i.e. dance parties, then some of the above statements are somewhat inaccurate.

Mardi Gras will only last as long as support is shown.
- Sat 8 Jan 2005 10:04:52

Thanks for broadly outlining some of the financial headaches involved in staging a large event. I prefaced my inital post by stating my ignorance of such issues.

However, I still don't see any greater outlays or risks borne by NMG that aren't also borne by private companies producing similar, and even larger events. It's the relative value that I am questioning. If NMG does infact have higher operating costs in putting on these events, then it would be easier to accept the perceived lower standards of production relative to the privately produced events.

Finally, it's somewhat frustrating to have some people base their argument/point of view on premises such as if you haven't been involved then you've no right to question, or the guilt laden, if you don't support it you'll lose it. Democracy and free enterprise are based on people having the right to question and make informed choices.
Some more of life's mysteries -


MSF Event Management.
Event critics, why not volunteer. You can develop skills and take the helm yourself one day with any luck. I doubt NMG is rejecting volunteers:)
- Thu 6 Jan 2005 18:26:15

It would be nice to but MG's Volunteer online is currently unavailable
http://www.mardigras.org.au/Support/VolunteerOnline.aspx
- and going by the 40+ hours required last year to earn 1 x concession price ticket I don't know how many people can afford that, $100 does not equal 40 x volunteer hours - that means that Mardi Gras values their volunteers at $2.50 per hour. My time is worth more than that.
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ethel yarwood enterprises is again organising an entry for the 2005 Mardi Gras parade. We have the concept and are now recruiting up to 40 participants in our parade group.

Some of our previous Mardi Gras projects include:
- mg2004: Jenny & Craig's 2 hour ULTIMATE EXTREME, Mardi Gras nip/tuck, fat club, queer eye makeover survivor reality renovation backroom blitz program experience.
- mg2003: Shane Warne.
- mg2001: The Bougainville Gay and Lesbian Mardi Gras.
- mg2000: The Happy Little SODOMITES.
- mg1999: Cussons Imperial Leather Pride
- mg1998: Dick van Dykes on Bikes.
- mg1996: The Little Misses.

So if you are interested in participating in some of this craziness, drop me a line at kabi@yarwood.com.au.

Regards to all
Kabi - Happy New Year and, I know it's early but, Happy Mardi Gras -


$100 does not equal 40 x volunteer hours - that means that Mardi Gras values their volunteers at $2.50 per hour. My time is worth more than that.
- Sat 8 Jan 2005 15:02:41

Umm... your dictionary obviously has a different definition of 'volunteer' to mine...

Here are a couple:
v. intr.
1. To perform or offer to perform a service of one's own free will.
2. To do charitable or helpful work without pay.

I would have thought that most people volunteer because they think it's a good thing to do, they enjoy doing it, and they get some satisfaction out of being part of the success of an event/organisation or whatever it is they are volunteering for.
CeeJay Confirmed -


good grief, is anyone actually looking forward to the party at all?

come of peoples, let's get some positive vibes happening here for a change!!!!

lead the way countdown boy!!! PLEASE!
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good grief, is anyone actually looking forward to the party at all?
come of peoples, let's get some positive vibes happening here for a change!!!!

lead the way countdown boy!!! PLEASE!
- Sat 8 Jan 2005 20:34:48


January is for everyone to get their niggles out of their systems - February is for the buildup of excitement .. LOL
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RE RHI sound levels,i emailed NMG a couple of days ago expressing mine and others concerns re this issue and was pleasently surprised to get a reply the next day.
All they said was that they are aware of the concerns and are trying to resolve them and that hopefully there will be some good news soon

If i here anything of value i will post it here

In the meantime i encourage all to email NMG and express their concern in the hope trhat the squeaky wheel gets the oil!
(posted on party wall aswell)
squeaky wheel -


"In the meantime i encourage all to email NMG and express their concern in the hope trhat the squeaky wheel gets the oil!
(posted on party wall aswell)
squeaky wheel - Sat 8 Jan 2005 21:18:44
good positive feedback.....but encoraging everyone to email??? they are a volunteer organisation and as you said "are aware of the problem and are trying to resolve it "...more time spent reading and replying to emails leaves less time dealing with the issues....give them a break !! and let them get on with fixing it ...not dealing with a deluge of emails..they know it's a problem and it's being dealt with
a fair go -

are we actually living or is this a simulation? i only ask because de ja vu has crept into my mind after reading the wall. could we be any more predictable before this party?

try something new. a behaviour/thought, outfit/hairstyle whether a superficial or deep change, make this one fresh

camp is supposed to be about a term that exists to taunt its definition by continually evolving and resisting definition itself.
are you being lazy - surprise someone -


SHAME ON YOU MARDI GRAS - In Support of our local (and far more talented) DJ's - Fri 7 Jan 2005 22:54:31

IF there is only 1 overseas DJ and the rest are all local , what is the problem ? I know that some have been dismal failures, while I have had the best dance to others. My only problem would be an 8 hr set ie he/she is crap then the Hordern would be empty, if great well .........
Its nice to see what is actually happening overseas with Intl DJ's coming to town. I also fully support our own local DJ's but........we can hear them any weekend in our clubs.

So long as NMG bring the Halls back to what they used to be like instead of mixing up the styles like what happened at Sleaze ( my opinion ).
Ask almost anyone who has attended quite a few parties and they can tell what the Halls styles are
RHI for commercial/handbag/house
Hordern for trance/hardhouse/hard trance/hrd nrg
Dome for its sleazy/sexy tribal
City Live now for its Retro.
Someone mentioned MG wont be able to afford to have 4 Halls but if Dome limited to only 700 , I'm sure this extra capacity will be quickly filled if the Domers get back their space, the Retro's get City Live etc.
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I would have thought that most people volunteer because they think it's a good thing to do, they enjoy doing it, and they get some satisfaction out of being part of the success of an event/organisation or whatever it is they are volunteering for.
CeeJay - Sat 8 Jan 2005 19:43:44

yes, CeeJay your dictionary is correct but to request anyone to work for 40 x hours to Earn the right to Purchase a Concession Price ticket is quite unreasonable.
Not everyone has 40 x hours free to donate - even over a month - a sliding scale of rewards would be a better exchange, ie, 10 hours = this, 20 hours = that, etc.
Traditionally volunteering for a community event gets some kind of Thank You - a comp entry to the event, a post-event party, a gift of a t-shirt, something of small value to acknowledge the time Donated.
a volunteer -


just my .02 cents...

i think that NMGs problem is with its outsourced event management for the party. i know that MG were doing this for years (mainly to avoid keeping production people on all year round as staff which wasn't necessary), but in recent times it seems the production people chosen (i'm not talking designers or technical suppliers here) aren't up on par with those who did the older parties (mid/late 90s - i didn't go to the parties before that).

given some of the problems seem to be new people reinventing the wheel, why not just get the people who know the venue, understand the issues back on board so a party isn't 'wasted' trying new baffling or a cheaper (and obviously unsuccessful) new sound design?

it seems to me that, while there may be all the best intentions in the world, no one is bothering to look at how things used to be done and the reasons why they were done that way. now i'm not saying everything was perfect, but in recent years, taking dance floors out of major venues, trying new sound designs, cutting corners on seating and sound baffling, slashing dj soundcheck times to virtually nothing - given that years of trial and error and effort were spent getting this right (or at least better) on this before, why go through it all again? i'm sure some of the reasons for particular things were recorded on paper and if not there's always the option of asking people - i'm sure some if not all would be happy to help.

hell... some may even put their hand up to do the job and we could quit this wheel reinvention period and put the time, money and effort into making the event as top class as possible and being the critical fundraiser it needs to be for NMG.
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a punter unsatisfied with NMGs technical efforts - Sun 9 Jan 2005 14:38:42
well said.
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a volunteer - Sun 9 Jan 2005 13:42:08

I think you will find that there is a sliding scale. Email the office directly if you are interested in this.

I volunteer for many reasons, the ticket is only one of them. It is a good way to meet people you wouldn't normally meet. Getting out from behind the desk where I work and doing something totally different. Plus the satisfaction of knowing I am helping the community.
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I've volunteered for MG in the past because I wanted to help a community organisation, and could actually care less about getting cheap tickets or whatever. NMG feels now more like a business, whose energy is directed at maintaining a corporate image and marketing it like a product. This is fine if this is what it needs to do to survive. However, the more businesslike it gets, the less I want to volunteer to help, specially when made to feel like NMG are doing *me* a favour by allowing me to help.

In the interests of transparency (not just waiting to get an email), I'd really like to see the volunteer policy for NMG spelt out on their website before I put my hand up again. I now prefer to volunteer for smaller community groups where my efforts are appreciated and make a real difference.
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Its nice to see what is actually happening overseas with Intl DJ's coming to town. I also fully support our own local DJ's but........we can hear them any weekend in our clubs.
But please no 8 hr set by 1 DJ
Sun 9 Jan 2005 09:59:49


My personal preference is to go see the international DJ's at a seperate event where they headline the bill. In my opinion, our 'glbt' dance parties allow the local DJ's to show their talent at taking a huge crowd on a collective journey - something they can't do in a club environment to the same extent. The legendary locals come to the fore when it comes to playing a dance party, whilst those that think that playing to a party crowd is the same as playing to a large club tend to have people desert the dancefloor to do necessary things like toilet/bar queue in preparation for the big girls/boys to hit the decks; where no matter how much you need to pee or grab a drink you keep thinking "I'll go next track" ;-)
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Boogie Boy - Fri 7 Jan 2005 11:02:47

Dahlink, where we can boogie by the Disco Darlings is one of the best songs ever!!!!!!

I just hope the next few years fly by so i can hear it in the retro space REAL soon!
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Traditionally volunteering for a community event gets some kind of Thank You - a comp entry to the event, a post-event party, a gift of a t-shirt, something of small value to acknowledge the time Donated.
a volunteer - Sun 9 Jan 2005 13:42:08

I guess this really belongs on the NMG wall, but anyway...

There was a thank-you party held for vollies after last MG @ Home in April, plus most vollies also got a t-shirt (not the most exciting or stylish of t-shirts, granted, but still...). Some got tickets to festival events (believe it or not, not every NMG vollie even *wants* to go to the party, freebie or not...)

BTW, it's certainly not difficult for anyone involved in a working group to rack up 40+ hours over the course of the year. Some have high-paying day jobs or run their own businesses, others are students or unemployed and everything in between. I would think all of them would like to believe that their efforts are valued both by the organisation, its members and the community.

Having said all that, yes, I agree that the way NMG deals with its vollies is a critical issue for the organisation, but I think there are more important things than a cheap or free party ticket.

... and to a punter unsatisfied with NMGs technical efforts - Sun 9 Jan 2005 14:38:42

I think you'll find that decisions weren't made to do things like, for example, not have a dance floor, because people thought it was a brilliant idea: it's trying to cope with limited budgets and even tighter cashflows, as other posters have mentioned. No business in their right mind would have given NMG much credit for the first year or 2.

And yes, a lot of knowledge was lost between SGLMG and NMG. I would have thought there have been enough calls for volunteers for those invovled in previous parties etc to know that their skills and experience would be more than valued. Many choose (as is their right) to not get involved. Most of the businesses involved in the good old days' were the ones who were most burned (finanically and otherwise) by the collapse of SGLMG, so it's hard to blame them for being cautious.

You may also notice that in the back of the 2005 season guide there is a credit for 'Knowledge Management", which I would assume covers NMG's strategies to capture this sort of information so it isn't constantly re-inventing the wheel when vollies and/or staff decide they've had enough for a while.

And lots of things have changed over the past decade: the change from the RAS to Fox Studios, increased government/licencing/police intervention, public liability insurance increases, decrease in corprorate sponsorship... many of which are much broader than just NMG.

Obviously though, as NMG gets more money in the bank and becomes more stable (and experienced), the punters will demand more and - hopefully - NMG can deliver. Given that Pride NYE made a loss yet again, I wouldn't take too much for granted with community organisations over the next 12 months or so though...
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SHAME ON YOU MARDI GRAS - In Support of our local (and far more talented) DJ's - Fri 7 Jan 2005 22:54:31

if you really beleve this, you're much too gullible. The mardi gras committie have thier head screwed on right and are trying to do thier best to appease the majority.


For gods sake give them some credibility.


as for the sound in the RHI , it is being addressed but how long do you lo think it will take??? It's actually out of the control of NMG and they are trying their best in difficult cirumstances.
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Hey All,

I am looking forward to seeing what Mardi Gras does this year, I guess after last years success they will probably stick to the same formula, if something works dont change it. We have so many good Dj's in sydney and if Mardi Gras empolyed them all would be a good thing,

My first one was last year and this year going to be in parade as well. Pity not going to hear Jake Kilby play, but my guesses are this


My guesses for djs are follows

Jimmy Dee
Justin Scott
Dan Murphy
Ryan Murhpy
sheki
Kate munore
Luke Leal
Neal Crawford
Alex taylor
sveta
Dr Jane
Chip


sorry guys about the spelling I am sorry, so they are my bids any one else want to have a guess and see how close we are when annouced, Jake would of been there but he has indicated that he hasnt submitted

and also a tent for up and coming space
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sammy d - Mon 10 Jan 2005 02:12:25

Neal Crawford has already told me that he isn't submitting, either. I think one of the reasons behind this is the fact that NMG aren't looking for any local trance DJs this year.
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" I think one of the reasons behind this is the fact that NMG aren't looking for any local trance DJs this year." - Mon 10 Jan 2005 07:29:24

Hence the reason NMG are employing an overseas trance DJ who will be employed to play this ***Disgusting*** 8 hour set.
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Hence the reason NMG are employing an overseas trance DJ who will be employed to play this ***Disgusting*** 8 hour set.
- Mon 10 Jan 2005 08:03:35

Apparently it's a Finland trance DJ. The only well known finnish trance DJs that I know of are Darude and JS16. Both are incredibly "straight" in their style, in my honest opinion. They don't contain that very nice, smooth, melodic style that most of Sydney's trance DJs do. Let's hope I'm wrong.
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Its interesting to gave a look at the spectacle of the joyous Brazillian carnival - also a protest march - and the snipy, negativity to our own Mardi Gras.
We have bigger enemies than Mardi Gras!
Can we have a "hating" mardi page and a "contructive criticism" page. PLease!
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- Mon 10 Jan 2005 11:15:36

Because things aren't always fluffy and peachy. Not in the real world. In the real world, we want answers and explanations when things aren't done to an expectation set by the community.

I'm a paying party-goer, and as previously mentioned, the over-priced ticket is somewhat "acceptable" because it's going towards a community organisation and it's other events and operations. If, for example, this organisation chooses to employ an international DJ for an 8 hour set instead of hiring our local talent, then I consider that a slap in the face to the entire community - but especially the local trance DJs who commit themselves to giving us world class performances.

There may be "bigger enemies" than Mardi Gras, but sweety, this is a Mardi Gras 2005 graffiti wall. We're not going to discuss mainstream politics or Iraq war conspiracies here.
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the trick with bringing out internationals is not to pay throught the nose for an established great, unless you want to kick up the ticket price. rather, you find a talented emerging artist known to deliver. they will play for less, and be far more grateful for the experience.

if someone who commands a prohibitive performance fee wishes to perform, THEY need to be the one to drop their fee, as hiring a big name international dj does cost around $10-100K. Hiring a Sydney DJ, maximum $1K. Comparative value difference, up to the performer really
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Apparently it's a Finland trance DJ. The only well known finnish trance DJs that I know of are Darude and JS16. Both are incredibly "straight" in their style, in my honest opinion. They don't contain that very nice, smooth, melodic style that most of Sydney's trance DJs do. Let's hope I'm wrong.
- Mon 10 Jan 2005 08:15:54

OMG, NMG, please say it ain't so! Finnish? Finished is more like it! Please, please, PLEASE spend more money on getting the sound right and less money on a totally unsuitable international DJ. If you have to go international, at least choose somebody recognisable and with a certifiable gay following (e.g. Peter Rauhofer, Junior Vasquez, Victor Calderone, Tony Moran, etc.).
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All this talk about DJ's and sound systems...I'll tell ya what I'll come down from Darwin with a couple of Wild cd's (circa 95)with my old Phillips boom box for a carton of VB.

Let me know if you're interested, as I'll have to square the trip away with me Parole Officer first.
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NMG are employing an overseas trance DJ who will be employed to play this ***Disgusting*** 8 hour set.
- Mon 10 Jan 2005 08:03:35

If it is a trance DJ who knows what they are doing, it could turn out to be a VERY good night and you'll all be raving on about how good it was afterwards, so don't any hard and fast conclusions just yet! Most trance DJs I know of excel at playing the uplifting, melodic style - even those who usually play at straight dance parties (surprise, surprise)! My only concern is about the duration of the set. 8 hours is quite a long time for any DJ to be playing at a dance party. Even the top DJs rarely play more than 4 or 5 hours at a time. In any case, I'll certainly be there to check it out and I congratulate NMG for making an effort to book an international....
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if we are going to import, import the girls - lisa german, rachael auburn et al - the rocked our parties. whereas imported guys - barry harris, calderone etc tanked
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Its interesting to gave a look at the spectacle of the joyous Brazillian carnival - also a protest march - and the snipy, negativity to our own Mardi Gras.
We have bigger enemies than Mardi Gras!
Can we have a "hating" mardi page and a "contructive criticism" page. PLease!

I think you would find, if you were a Brazillian native, that there is probably just as much behind the scenes discussion and debate about their carnivale. I'm sure that our international visitors are oblivious to most of the debate that goes on here, as you are oblivious to the debate that goes on in Brazil.
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" this is my house "

ahhhh fond memories of Rachel Auburn set in the Hordern a few years back. No slow goody beginning , they announced her name and BANG she started and the bleacher emptied....awesome set. Lisa German not really my style but agree seems to be more success with the girls than the boys. But each to his/her own...

8 hours is awfully long though.
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NMG, do what you need to do! This city is big enough for surprises. The last thing we need for our party is for it to become stale and predictable. Change is good. Though not a great fan of trance; bringing in an international into our party cements it as a world-class event. I'll be there to support your efforts. Good luck. Keep surprising us....
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it aint the artists you suggested from finland, and you will be happy with him/her (love my ambiguity). this is a good producer/dj, who has a very likable sound.

i think it is a bit weird if he/she does spin for 8hrs. NMG doesn't really need to get their money's worth in this sense, they should just flog the dj off to someone else in sydney that night (or the day after), and then again in melbourne the next weekend. would hate to think some of our most talented trancesters missed out altogether.... gutsy gamble NMG - best of luck:)
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I dont know where this Finnish trance dj rumour came from but it may be a little inaccurate !

I heard on the grapevine that Mr Tenaglia has been in talks with NMG. my grapevine is usually pretty reliable for these things. lets wait & see shall we ?

*of course, Pinkboard is not expected to verify this statement*
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It would be brilliant to have a big name international playing but not at the expense of the local dj's.

I think NMG would be facing a big backlash from the local talent if this was the case.
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All this fuss about a finnish DJ.....

I was just wondering if maybe story got mixed up somewhere and the DJ/producer is actually swedish??

This would call to mind a certain Eric "Call On Me" Prydz

That would be fantastic.
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That would be fantastic.
Just wondering - hope my wondering is right, I for one would love that!!! - Tue 11 Jan 2005 12:13:30

Eric Prydz, to my knowledge, isn't a trance DJ. Regardless of the quality of the international that they've decided to get, I don't think it's in the spirit of our community to be getting them to play an 8hr and totally neglecting our local trance DJs.
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How depressing to read all these negative comments....
Come on guys!! NMG is our community. Remember what happened with old MG only 2years go???
Stop winging and try to support them.
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Oh and the other thing....

Where on earth is att the Cher talk??

Will she? Won't she? My bet is that you can bet your arse she'll be performing at the party.
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How depressing to read all these negative comments....
Come on guys!! NMG is our community. Remember what happened with old MG only 2years go???
Stop winging and try to support them.
- Tue 11 Jan 2005 12:40:22

Once again, why support something you don't believe in just because people say you should?

Will she? Won't she? My bet is that you can bet your arse she'll be performing at the party.
Still Just Wondering - Anticipation - Tue 11 Jan 2005 12:43:09

Cher's management have already announced that she definitely WILL NOT be performing at MG. I think with the current climate of big dance parties, NMG would be announcing it if she were to ensure a sell out party and a financial success. They are not in the financial position to be able to withold this info when releasing it would ensure such financial gain.
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Still Just Wondering - Anticipation - Tue 11 Jan 2005 12:43:09

NMG have already released a press release informing that Cher will definitely not be performing at Mardi Gras this year. I wonder why NMG decided to actually submit a press release saying this. To my knowledge (I'm only 20) it's been a tradition for the community to run wild with all sorts of fantastic rumours. Why spoil the fun so early?

http://www.mardigras.org.au/Media/MediaReleases/media_release_13_oct_2004.aspx

Media > Media Release > 13 Oct 2004
Mardi Gras to be a Cher-free night
New Mardi Gras today announced that pop diva, Cher, will not be playing at its 2005 Party.

Since the Australian leg of her "Never Can Say Goodbye" farewell tour was announced in August speculation has mounted that the gay icon would perform a swan song for her queer fans down under at the world renowned Mardi Gras Party.

New Mardi Gras Co-Chair, Mark Orr, is keen to quash the gossip before it takes hold.

"Rumours surrounding Party acts are a Mardi Gras tradition," said Mark. "But this one really seems to have spread like wildfire, a full five months before the big night. As much as we love her, I can confirm that Cher will not be performing at next year's Party."

But in a coup for the organisation, New Mardi Gras has secured access for its members to an early release of tickets for a third concert to be announced Thursday as well as the opportunity for one lucky member and friend to meet Cher in person.

In addition to her shows on Thursday 3rd and Friday 4th March, Cher will now be playing a third Sydney concert at the Entertainment Centre on Monday, 7th March.

To purchase tickets and to find out how you could meet Cher, log on to www.mardigras.org.au from midday on Friday.

Event promoter, Michael Coppel, has issued a statement saying that no concert will be scheduled for Saturday, 5th March - the night of the Mardi Gras Parade and Party - in order to allow everyone to make the most of the Mardi Gras festivities.
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Cher's management have already announced that she definitely WILL NOT be performing at MG. I think with the current climate of big dance parties, NMG would be announcing it if she were to ensure a sell out party and a financial success. They are not in the financial position to be able to withold this info when releasing it would ensure such financial gain.
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Cher and/or Michael Coppel have made a financial contribution toward MG and in return MG have confirmed that she will not be playing and will not publicise the fact at all. This have been done to ensure that the 19,000 people at MG Party still book and pay for tickets to see her in concert if they want to see her rather than relying on seeing her at the party.
Just wondering -
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One would wonder why NMG even bother - the amount of people how have negative comments to make about the organisation, would it not have been better left for dead or is it simply a case of reserecting something to try and crucify it again...

Give NMG a chance - it is only a couple of years old after all...
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Why can't ruby be our trance dj? support local talent. He played incredible on new years eve - just ask everyone. What wrong with this mardi gras?
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his would call to mind a certain Eric "Call On Me" Prydz

Please sweet god, do not allow this to happen. That track is soooo last year, a crap filtered house version of Steve Winwood. And the video is sexist, derogatory to women. Mardi Gras say it isnt so say it isnt so...
This chick wont be happy at all...................................................

Ive heard a rumour there will be a breaks n hip hop room - plus a live music room. Thats the sort of left field energy that Mardi Gras needs. Nice MG guide by the way - Kronos Quartet! Super yay Still dont know how that "crappy donkey" party made it in... Talk about filler!
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I've just heard that Dolly Parton will be making an impromptu appearance on the 9.12 Peace Train from Central Station to Wagga Wagga on Mardi Gras morning....

People.....do we go to the MG party purely to see a top headlining act or to support our community ??

Support the local DJ's and talent !!

Support NMG !!

Support Stockings.....
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Well does not worry me to hear an overseas DJ's and no offence to our awesome local DJ's but I hear them most weekends anyway.
8 hours seems way to long.
Something along the lines of -
10pm-12pm give a relative newcomer a go
12pm-4am the Intl DJ
4am-7am - local DJ
7am-10am - local DJ.
I love my Hordern but whenever there has been a DJ who's set I think is crap, I go and wonder the other Halls for that couple of hours and come back for the next DJ. If the DJ had an 8 hour set and they were crap by most peoples standards then the Hordern could be near empty.
Many a time I've danced in all the Halls and a DJ will cause the floor to be not so full , then the next DJ comes on and its sardinesville again.
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http://www.clubunity.org/orkidea/
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Why can't ruby be our trance dj? support local talent. He played incredible on new years eve - just ask everyone. What wrong with this mardi gras?
- Tue 11 Jan 2005 14:35:52

They have spoken to him about playing MG before. Ruby wont play unless he gets control of the sound system - ie that its up to his high standards. MG has never even been close to good enough in that context.
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I can't feel the beat - Mon 10 Jan 2005 14:05:59

Did you say Victor Calderone?! Wasnt that that DJ who managed to completely pack out stage 11 at BQN last year???
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Well I think 8hrs can work if it's a special occasion and a special person.

The Frankie Knuckles 8hr set was one of the best MG experiences ever for those into his style of music. I love him in slightly smaller doses but those who like their hous with abit of soul and funk were in heaven that night and could hardly get off the dance floor.

At this stage, frankly I could probably use an 8hr set from Luke Leal. Danny Tenaglia would probably be good too (though not v cute (ooh!)) but he's a tad more in Mr Knuckles' vein than, say PVD or Armin, isn't he?

Now Peter Rauhofer would be excellent! Love playing his Amrerican Life and Relax remixes back to back at the moment. Very chunky!

Though perhaps Mr G is more likely to be available and affordable and could spin a little Heaven trance... haha - always go the cheaper option these days when sorting through NMG rumours(!)
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They have spoken to him about playing MG before. Ruby wont play unless he gets control of the sound system - ie that its up to his high standards. MG has never even been close to good enough in that context.
- Wed 12 Jan 2005 00:58:06

Hmmmmmmm. Not sure about that statement. Tropical Fruits supplied a badly EQ'd sound system in the trance room. If Ruby was in control of that then should he be considered as a benchmark of sound quality?
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Wasnt [Victor Calderone]that DJ who managed to completely pack out stage 11 at BQN last year???
Adam - Wed 12 Jan 2005 01:12:21

Haha - If only VC had been relegated to Stage 11, as you suggest, and Luke and Neal had been given some reasonable time on the decks in the Hordern it might have been a great party!
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I know of a finnish trance dj who has actually played a 16 hour set before.
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I know of a finnish trance dj who has actually played a 16 hour set before.
Orkidea - Wed 12 Jan 2005 11:35:52

Excellent. Just what we need. Why don't we get the international to play the full set in the Horden, then run over to Toy Box and play a full 8hr set there, too. Who needs variety?!?
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With all the talk on costs etc on running the festival and those posters who make outlandish statements re how much money NMG receives as opposed to its outlays . I think we all should remember that closing the streets off for the parade costs, $250K and upwards. This issue raises its ugly head every year. The fee is only waived generally nearer to the festival.
To my mind NMG needs also to be able to fund this cost in the event it is not waived. So I think that anyone who criticizes NMG should take this additional cost into consideration when making comments on the festival and/or party costs versus revenue. I don't believe any posters here have factored that cost in.
I'm sure that the board of NMG does, and will do, all it can to produce the best party at MG whilst being fiscally responsible to ensure that NMG is here for years/decades to come for all of us to enjoy.
Thanx NMG -

Robert Racic did a 10 hour set in dome once - f#ck I miss him!
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Hmmmmmmm. Not sure about that statement. Tropical Fruits supplied a badly EQ'd sound system in the trance room. If Ruby was in control of that then should he be considered as a benchmark of sound quality?
- Wed 12 Jan 2005 10:26:24

Didn't seem that way to me, where's noisy gypsy?
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From all reports, the Tropical Fruits party in Lismore was well attended and received by the party goers. This was the 2nd time Ruby played their in addition to a number of other TF's regulars. The resources invested in sound, lighting and lasers are better than what you would find in the clubs and the guys who supply and run it have been doing it for a number of years.
The sound and lighting at last years Sleaze was great. So I don't understand the comment about Ruby wanting to control the sound. Most Dj's do have control over the sound during their sets.

cheers,

rava
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What is wrong with the Mardi Gras website haven't been able to get in for days now??
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it was fine not more than 15 minutes ago!

cheers,

rava
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